How Hollywood Taught Me Not to Behave
by Veronica DiPippoAs the Obama era commences, I find myself pausing to reflect upon the lessons I’ve learned over the last eight years. Feeling somewhat shell-shocked by the sudden surge of America-love exploding from the far-left corners of the Hollywood universe, I am otherwise oddly drained of emotion. Besides an inner, rumbling disquiet – perhaps due, in part, to the burrito I ingested at lunch – I can pinpoint another peculiar sensation: relief. As if I’ve just been sprung from an elementary school classroom full of spoiled, vicious, ten year-olds engaged in a perpetual, two thousand, nine hundred and twenty-day temper tantrum.
Let me explain. I am the product of political “diversity.” My father – a retired professor and classics scholar who speaks six languages – was raised “a Kennedy Democrat.” Involved in east coast politics, he actually met Jack and Bobby on several occasions and briefly toyed with the idea of moving to Washington to work in JFK’s administration (as per an invitation, mind you). Bluntly acknowledging that today’s Democrats have more in common with Karl Marx than JFK, he is currently disgusted with the whole lot of them. My mother, also a retired professor, is a direct descendant of a family who came to America in the 1660’s. A legacy Republican, her ancestors fought in every American war and her 18th Century, childhood home was used to house escaped slaves. Not surprisingly, I was raised to seek out at as many facts as I could lay my hands on before opening my mouth at the dinner table. Improperly rationalizing an opinion could lead to a deadly, thirty-minute lecture featuring etiological references in both Greek and Latin. More importantly, I was raised to be polite. “Polite: showing good manners towards others, as in courteous behavior and speech. Civil, refined, cultured.”
Beginning in 2001, I began to encounter a strange phenomenon. Filmmakers who, during the Clinton years, cruised around in Range Rovers unconcerned about their carbon footprints and who were oblivious to overseas death tolls from botched American policies, were suddenly outraged…about everything! Overnight, we had changed from a “progressive” country to a fascist regime. Instantly, my Palm Pilot roster transformed itself from a list of professional colleagues into a who’s who hotbed of political activists.
My first mistake was to question this. How, I casually queried a film director friend one evening in a chat room, had this country turned upside down in a single day? His response was a multi-page diatribe wherein Bush was simultaneously compared to Hitler, Stalin and Alfred E. Newman. From the moment the term “dangling chad” demolition-derbied its way into the American lexicon, politics would never be the same. Despite multiple recounts, lawsuits, investigations, congressional hearings, a Supreme Court ruling, and a never-ending stream of journalists determined to obtain a Pulitzer by proving the election was “stolen,” the conclusion was: it wasn’t. Yet “stolen” it would remain forevermore to every liberal between here and West Quoddy Head, Maine.
I next committed the classic blunder of countering the fallacies of my liberal associates with logic. Why, for example, the sudden panic over arsenic levels in tap water? Was it not the same tap water they had been using quite satisfactorily during the Clinton years? Why the histrionics over wiretapping? Could they tell me which president wasn’t a prolific wiretapper – warrantless or otherwise – since the technology was invented? Why was our earth – a tough, 4.5 billion year old, battle-scarred bitch who had survived more cataclysms than we’ll ever know and who will be fully capable of reinventing herself well beyond our extinction – suddenly a “delicate, fragile” pie crust planet pushed to the brink of destruction by a mere century of fossil fuel emissions? How could a generation raised under the cloud of pending ice age doom so unquestioningly embrace the opposite theory within the blink of an eye? My Palm Pilot began to drop contacts faster than my neighbor shed post-gastric bypass surgery pounds. Who were these people I had associated with for years without so much as an angry outburst or a harsh word?
I then tried countering the rising tide of cyber panic with humor. Did my writer, director and actor friends know, for example, that the largest, land roving dinosaur measured about 2/3 the length of a football field, traveled in herds that consumed entire forests for lunch and eliminated several tons of excrement each? Talk about greenhouse gases! My associates were not amused.
Soon, I became aware that a new, highly contagious, physiological neurosis was rapidly infecting even my most emotionally stable, liberal friends. In the midst of a pleasant gathering, they would suddenly become seized by a bizarre form of political Tourette’s syndrome. This disease quickly spread to every social gathering I attended. The age-old “No Religion, No Politics” rule of hospitality was roughly heave-ho’d out the door, revealing myself to be surrounded by some of the most ill-bred people on the face of the earth. Typical conversation starters included rancid, kindergarten style jokes about “Dubya,” hateful, bigoted stereotyping of all Christians and conservatives, and comparing America to Nazi Germany.
At first, I thought it was merely a passing phase. I even made a game out of Guess-When-The-First-Outburst-Will-Occur. Times generally averaged between thirty seconds to five minutes from the moment I walked in the door. Sometimes, after listening silently to a twenty-minute, group-think diatribe, I would reach my limit. Offering a few pointed questions (that, invariably, no one at the table could answer) I was instantly perceived as rude. In Hollywood, it’s okay to be the focus of relentless insults at someone’s dinner table, but it’s NOT okay to make the insulters even slightly uncomfortable about it. Even the calmest of counterpoints produced a reaction similar to the release of a silent-but-deadly fart in a Smart Car. I found myself capable of emptying entire rooms in a matter of minutes. My Palm Pilot began to show signs of needing life support.
Then Bush was re-elected.
My 2004 “meet and greets” – a painful ritual endured by screenwriters trolling for work and studio executives who have no intention of giving it to them – were scheduled immediately after Kerry’s defeat. I knew a paradigm shift was happening the minute I walked into my first meeting and the executive was crying. “My God,” I said. “Are you all right?” “I’m sorry,” she sniveled, “it’s just so awful! I mean, what do you think about all this?” It took me a moment to realize that she was not referring to her company’s refusal to option my script. My mind immediately sprang into “spin” mode. This was a new and different animal. Potential employers were now putting me on the spot regarding my political beliefs. Wasn’t there a post-Blacklist rule out there somewhere that proclaimed this type of behavior a definite no-no? Quickly, I realized there was no “correct” way for me to respond. “I think I’d prefer not to talk about politics. But I’d love to talk with you about my work,” I offered. I could immediately sense by the expression on her face that I’d said the wrong thing. That my response, instead of being perceived as benign, was somehow heard as: “I think I’d like you to smell the crushed cat turd embedded in the bottom of my shoe.”
From there, things really went downhill with ‘Bush Derangement Syndrome’ rearing its ugly head at meetings, in pitch sessions, in conversations with producers, even in pre-production. While reviewing a location with a D.P. one day, I asked: “What do you think about this gate?” “I think Bush is a f—ing a–hole!” was his reply.
Quaint concepts like professionalism, basic courtesy and respect for diversity of opinion were officially things of the past. Though war wasn’t the answer, moving through life as a roving combat unit of perpetual anger and hostility apparently was. I found myself shrinking away from the few social gatherings I was still invited to. I stressed about meetings, constantly strategizing over ways to effectively communicate with people whose personal politics were tantamount to religious fanaticism.
Finally, in 2008, Hollywood got its way.
As we “change” into a society that blindly embraces the most egregious policies of failed European socialism, I can only “hope” that enough of us will see reason before it’s too late. And yet, as we ignore all the warnings of our founding fathers and grow government beyond anything they could have imagined; as we place our bipartisan spending spree on speed; as we knowingly quadruple our grandchildren’s debt; as we roll back our security to pre 9/11 mentality, paving the way for an even-more devastating attack, I have once again begun to dip my toe into the Hollywood social pool.
At a series of post-election dinner parties, I notice that barely a passing word was uttered about politics. The beatific smiles and jovial attitudes of my liberal associates told me it was once more safe to go back into the water. With a far-left hand firmly steering the American wheel, La-La Land can once more revert itself back to ye goode olde days of Clintonian apathy. Though I am anything but apathetic about America’s future, I am also keenly aware of how not to behave towards what few remaining liberal friends and colleagues I still have over the next four years. I promise to disagree without being rude, crude, obnoxious, arrogant, intolerant, childish, warlike and, most of all, without putting potential colleagues on the spot during a meeting and/or interview.
That, I learned from Hollywood.







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Your article is excellent and so on point. As I read it I can recall the same thing happening over the past eight years; the rudeness, the craziness, especially living in NYC where you could be physically attacked or spit on for even campaigning for John McCain. I have lost friends because they almost seemed obsessed. I started to think that maybe those UFO abductions were real and the implants were kicking in. Even guys were hanging anti Bush posters in their bedrooms – how romantic. How bizarre!
Thank you so much for this article – nice to know I am not alone in this very strange experience! Kudos to your parents too for instilling those great values of being civil, polite and to think for yourself.
Great article. It's tough living in upside-down world. Reading the comments on another blog regarding O's budget and his plan to save education, I was amazed that the dems believe that The One will restore us to the 'good' old days pre-No Child Left behind. I thought to myself, the democratic unions have controlled education for years. Why the president's BFF William Ayers is a pioneer! How can these non-repugs as they call us, not see that given free reign, the dems will drive education deeper into the ditch?
One thing is for sure. I'm glad the glitterati has finally shut their collective pie-holes.
Conversation once tended towards civility because there were consequences for being a lout.
Your experience is a microcosm of what all of us who move in politically diverse circles experience as well. The former shrill bitter Bush haters are now as you say covered by beatific smiles. But unlike Hollywood where fantasy trumps reality, many of those who piled invective on Bush for 8 years, and yes I even had acquaintances who still cling to the many times debunked notion that Bush lost Florida, now are becoming less beatific and now strangely silent when what we were saying to them about Obama being a tabula rasa for them to write their romantic fantasies and much more socialist than they imagined upon appears to be being proven true just a scant 30 days into his Presidency.
The talking points about Iraq, Gitmo, warrantless wiretaps, and the mounting deficit are happily tossed back in their faces and the backpedaling and dissembling is a quality and amount that is truly a beautiful thing to behold.
There are those of course whose every utterance is fed them by HuffPo or ThinkProgress who are still shrieking as though they arent in complete control of this nations direction, and from them its more of the same.
Once, at a NYC dinner party, I uttered the phrase "Bush is not conservative enough for my liking". Huffa!
Brilliant writing! Yea, your paint a picture of an Alice in Wonderland world and of a bunch of spoiled children. What is in their brains that makes them behave so badly?
Those beatific smiles recall another time. Blissfully stoned was the description then. Anything changed ?
Pass the soma.
It's sad isn't it? but so true. And I am discovering not that it's also true that only the most die-hard BO supporters are still banging his drum on the Conservative blogs. The rest will only dare stick their heads into the threads where their beliefs on where he stands on the issue hasn;t yet been torpedoed by cruel reality. On just about every other issue, fiscal responsibility and socialism being the biggies, we only have to type four words: WE TOLD YOU SO. I wish I could say it's sweet, but it actually makes me want to cry. I'm desparately afraid that these people have put our country in danger of destruction in their rabid BDS zeal.
Brilliant.
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The Left is concerned with one thing and one thing only… Having power
Everything else is a pretext. (They are similiar to Muslims)
The issues they claim that bother them don’t actually bother them at all
Deficit spending.. No
Racism, sexism, homophobia … No. The Left has no problem using these things against people who they disagree with. I’m a gay conservative and the only people who ever attacked me for being gay are leftists. And many of them go so far in their attacks.
I laugh at the Obama drones who are throwing treason charges if you are against gazillion dollar deficits
Reninding them that dissent is patrotic is a weapon the mothership hasn’t given them a dronish defense for yet
I'm an artist, and through the years of the Bush Presidency I converted from a young Socialist to a full blown Conservative. I was litteraly begging my artsy friends to explain why the priciples of Conservatism were wrong, why it was criminal to overthrow a genocidal dictator, etc. I didn't want to be a Conservative. But as I saw how they treated me – just for asking questions – and read more I started thinking maybe I didn't want to be in this club after all. It was a real eye opener.
What a brilliant posting Veronica!! I'm not in the business but as an outsider I can see you as a very effective writer and hope the void created in your Palm Pilot (Blackberry by now I'm sure) is filled with like minded (if not closet) center to right rational thinkers who understand that the world does'nt revolve around them. All the best in your career!
I think they must have all rediscovered their copies of "Tapestry," and gotten their valium prescriptions renewed.
The question is, where will this hatred redirect itself? The kind of vitriol we witnessed for eight years was an infectious energy. As we all know, energy doesn't just dissipate, it transforms from one form into another. Judging by Janeane Garofolo's silly rant on Olbermann last night (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GXjefOQTvw), they're going to aim squarely at conservatives in general.
Excellent. Thanks so much.
Great read, and describes rude spoiled children to a T. The problem here is, we are all going to get spanked for their petulance.
I learned the only thing the Left is interested in is gaining and holding onto power. Everything else is a pretext.
Bush's deficit spending? No one can claim these people truly care about spending.
Racism, sexism, homophobia, etc..? They have no problem engaging in these things when it suits them. Especially against people who belong to those groups but aren't Leftists. I'm a gay conservative and in my whole life the only people who attacked me for being gay were Leftists. They actually seek to destroy you if you're in one of the "victim classes" but refuse to be a victim.
Look how they react to any criticism of Obama. Genuinely hurt feelings and charges of treason.
I love to say "Dissent is Patriotic". The mothership hasn't given them a defense for that one yet.
Actually, the hatred IS still there. It hasn't stopped in my corner of the world. The blame will never end, Obama will never have to take responsibility for anything that gets effed up. He has just way too many bootlickers!!
My liberal "friends" just bashed and bashed Jindal, used racist comments about him, and put down every single republican. Seems they are bored, and they love to pounce in groups on anyone who disagrees with their Messiah.
BriscoKid you are absolutely right. I think that we got the answer to your question when Sean Penn opened his angry mouth at the Oscars. Liberals got everything they wanted last November, except the rejection of Prop 8. Now the huge majority of Americans who support traditional marriage are "shameful" and "hateful". Like you said, their hatred has redirected itself. Prop 8 is where the fight will be-don't be intimidated people!
Thank you for your pithy article. It reminds me of the time one of my leftist neighbors said. "I can't believe that you are a conservative, you are so NICE." Oddly enough, in the face of such stupidity, I did not feel very nice. So I kept my mouth shut. Part of me wonders if that isn't the problem. Does the left interpret good manners and civility as weakness?
I work with a guy who worked for the Obama campaign and it's amazing to listen to him still hammer the same tired "Everything bad is Bush's fault" and the favorite line of the week "Obama is facing a worse crisis than any president in history" crap and try to keep a straight face.
It's even better to be sitting at a computer with easy google access to show him exactly how he's wrong about things, but of course those facts are just ignored as he moves on to his next talking point.
The more I learn about how and what liberals actually think, I get down on my knees and thank GOD its us conservatives that have all the guns :p
'Good manners' and 'civility' are not even in the lexicon of the dyed in the wool liberal. Ever dealt with a toddler in his or her 'MINE!' phase?
Any conversation with liberals, even so called liberal intellectuals, that is based on reason must necessarily fail.
When you refer to BO as "The One" or in any messianic way, it goes right over liberals' heads. BO and his sheep really think he is "The One" and are flattered that you "get it".
too funny! Some of my friends are telling me that instead of trying to limit guns right now, the Libs are buying up all the ammo they can find. Two Walmarts last week were out of ammo according to a friend in NC
Veronica,
Great piece.
I entered college in 1971 determined to become a liberal, if only to piss off my Dad. I'd had my fill of the-world-is-going-to-hell-in-a-handbasket diatribes to last me a lifetime. This resolve lasted roughly until my second freshman semester, by which time the intolerance of the campus left had made itself too present to be ignored. At least when my Dad ranted, it made logical sense. I then read Solzhenytsin, and that put me firmly on the road back to conservatism.
Keep the faith, and keep up the good fight.
Thank you for writing this great article. It's a common experience that all of us have had out here in Hollywood, and you have described it very well.
I don't believe you.
Liberals don't shop at Walmart.
:p
If I had a gazillion dollars, I'd option every script you've ever written since grammar school!
I completely understand your learning curve at the hands of the great unwashed from the Obamanational-Socialist Party. I use gallows humor when approaching any discussions at Hollyweird type partys. During a heated discussion on pro-abortion [where I lay in wait like a scoundrel with a cream pie and a hand grenade], I quipped that since liberals were "…more likely than conservatives to have abortions, then that means there would be fewer liberals to vote in upcoming elections. But that doesn't mean that ACORN wouldn't find a way to get the ex-fetuses registered like, say, the Dallas Cowboys". I then turned to one of the pregnant women and asked her, "So when are you going to get rid of that thing? The CO2 it will exhale will contribute to global warming!"
I also asked, "How come everybody here supports abortion rights, but for some strange reason not a single one of you has ever seemed to have had one? It's like saying you support spinning kittens in a Cuisinart. That's kinda sick"
I will admit the tequila had something to do with my commentary, but all I did was string together the "inconvenient truths" of the liberal oeuvre in much the same way Chris Rock has done to conservatives.
Bravississima, Veronica! Let us know when you get a film deal. I'll plunk down my "dead presidents" to fill your coffers.
The best-written and most detailed article to yet appear in Big Hollywood, hands-down. Being a fellow Angeleno (Hollywood is part of L.A., for those who weren't aware), I, too, witnessed the exact same transformation. My brother-in-law, for example, is a screenwriter who became quite successful in the late 1990s after years of struggling. First thing he did was to get himself a Range Rover — that's the big, expensive one with all the bells and whistles. Range Rovers and H2 Hummers were ubiquitous in Hollywood during thelate 90s, as was the stereotype, well-earned, of their cell-phone-addicted drivers meandering all over the Hollywood freeway advising clients to "have your people call my people." Nary a hybrid or electric vehicle was to be seen although they were available at the time. Right after the 2000 election, at Thanksgiving, my sister-in-law referred to all Republicans as "Nazis" and I knew, as a distinct minority in the extended family, that I was in for trouble. I promptly got on my gas-saving motorcycle and left. The relative calm you now identify is in fact accurate. The natives are no longer restless. Can you say "knee-jerk?"
The segment is not that large; in fact, it is a tiny, noisome, overly vocal minority. It is just that when you live amongst them, it really chafes at one's nerves. Remember, Bush WAS re-elected, and Mr. Obama had a very thin majority. Most Americans are center-right.
Indeed.
ROTFLMAO!!!
I laughed at that part too.. In 04 all my gay friends and non-friends were 100% certain Kerry was going to win and put an end to the Police State we were in. (Tangent: Did you know Bush had camps made where the gays were going to be sent and eliminated? I'm going to have to ask around what happened to that plan)
If they were angry after the 00 election , the 04 election drove them into a despair. They were crushed.. devastated. I had a lot of fun gloating and telling them "I told you so" (I was the only one who predicted Bush would win).
But then that is when the real demonizing started
Just before the last election, my neighbors (who know I'm conservative, as I outed myself a couple of months before the election) asked me if I was really going to vote for John McCain.
"No," I replied with a smile. "I'm going to write in George Bush for a third term."
Yes, I really did say this. One of the same crowd chastised me for buying a new, full-size pickup which I happen to need for work. I walked over and pointed to his 15-year-old German convertible, informing him that my new pickup not only got about the same gas mileage as his car, it met very stringent emissions standards and thus was much "greener" than his vehicle. That silenced him, and he even admitted, "You've got me there."
I've found that if you stand up to these people, oftentimes they will back down just a little.
Fear, and ignorance.
Excellent! I live in an irrationally liberal college town and I've never been able to quantify the demeanor around here. Thank you for putting it down so vividly. I have noticed that my VERY liberal friends and neighbors have been silent on Obama and that the local paper, where the letters-to-the-editor page was a stream of Bush Is Evil letters, has been about zoning and tethering laws. Except the letter arguing against making a law against panhandling – it would violate the free speech rights of the panhandlers. As long as they're democrats I suppose.
I have a woman I work with that announced at 4pm everyday if the market was down, what it was down. Since Nov., not a single market update from her. Sorry, I can't even call my former liberal friends friends anymore. I prefer friends with a side of rational thought.
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I have a woman I work with that announced at 4pm everyday if the market was down, what it was down. Since Nov., not a single market update from her. Sorry, I can't even call my former liberal friends friends anymore. I prefer friends with a side of rational thought.
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Great article. Reminds me of work at the medical school. Being a conservative, I can be targeted for abuse and ridicule. A liberal or one of the designated “victim” groups will never receive this kind of treatment.
Makes me happy to spend my free time on the Ham radio. In ham radio, rude people are called “lids” because their behavior tends to put a cap on a conversation.
New hams are taught to never be a lid.
Would it not be a better place to live if everyone was taught to not be a lid?
They aren't going to get away with it. This is to the pain, now. They will wallow in freakish misery forever after this debacle. Obama has caused so much damage in less than two months, by the time he's removed from office there won't be anything left of his ideology. King Obama is going to pave the way for the dismantling of the welfare state. People will be that angry in short order. Maybe he's doing us a favor. One thing is for sure, your hippie friends are going to be remembered the same way that those who rioted in the streets in the 30s demanding the appeasement of Hitler are remembered today. For the same reasons, and because they are the same sorts of people. Never before in our history has there been a class of Americans who so richly deserve our despite. And they will get it, for the rest of their wretched lives.
Great article and so on the money. It reminded me of the time my wife and I were at a wine tasting in Canada and we were joined by a Canadian couple who were probably in their mid to late fifties. Through the course of our conversation with them they discovered that we lived in Columbus Ohio, the home of the Ohio State University. It turned out that the man had done graduate work at Ohio State during the seventies so he gave a hearty us “Go Bucks” because, you know, you have to do that when you find an Ohio State connection. Anyhow, I asked the couple if they ever go back to Columbus to attend Ohio State football games. Well, almost before the words could leave my mouth the woman pinched her face together like someone had put a piece of rotting meat under her nose and said “We would never go to the States because of your President Bush”. My jaw hit the floor. Here we were having a pleasant social interaction with a couple we had just met and this person thought nothing of interjecting her pejorative “political” statement into the proceedings without having the slightest clue about the political beliefs of my wife and I. My reply was something along the lines of not being sure what Bush had to do with going to a football game, which she responded to by dismissively waving her hand and pinching up her face even more. It is not so much that she voiced her displeasure with President Bush that annoyed me – though it did because of the whole not discussing religion, sex and politics in polite company thing – no, it’s the way she expressed it by making a face, generally acting like a petulant brat and thinking that was totally ok. I can’t understand how any liberal can think this type of behavior will help convince people of the righteousness of their causes when it makes me want to take away their binkie and make them take a nap.
You can say what you want about Hollywood, but after watching Nightsweats, a film by Veronica DiPippo, maybe the author's reasons for disliking tinseltown are more personal, born out of frustration and, well — lack of talent? Nightsweats has problems in both its production and story. The dialogue is barely audible and the film noir scenes are actually too dark. Noir is a contrast of light and shadow, unfortunately Nightsweats overdoes shadow. And the major story flaw is that the protagonist does not solve her problem. The ending is deus ex machina. An undeveloped character shows up and triumphs over the antagonist. It is all quite ham handed and amateurish.
I personally was raised by parents who refused to be anything but civil in all circumstances.
You can make a great case for civility. All kinds of virtues are associated with it.
But there's something else that civility is– it's safe. It's easy to point to a refusal to be incivil and declare it is entirely because of virtue, but when people being incivil are committing evil, and you refuse to deal with them on realistic terms, my guess is you're doing it to stay safe, not out of high-mindedness. People who refuse to abandon civility under any circumstances are simply followers. It's not much different than insisting on dealing with Iran through "dialogue." It's a refusal to see how it really is. People who respect nothing but fear and consequences have to be dealt with on those terms. It sucks but it's the way it is. People who are willing to be incivil in the defense of good make civility possible for everyone else.
Nobody says anybody has to be the first to be incivil, though.
So, so excellent. Maybe Ridley, who post at this site, will read this.
A close friend crowed about Obama's "overwhelming victory" in the Electoral College. When I mentioned that he won the popular vote by only about seven million votes…blank stare.
Thanks for the heads up. I searched her as well and found Nightsweats, too. I loved it! Great spoof on the old twilight zone thing. Very stylized in that same vein, which didn't bother me as much as it did you. Not sure how "Deus ex machina" applies to this. I found the plot well conceived and clever. I loved the extra twist at the end. Oh well, it's not for everyone.
What a great concept! yes, indeed…how many times have i witnessed lidding to conversation, either by myself or someone else, and felt a little less for it. i had already decided to re-institute the politics and religion rules i learned from my grandmother with my family in this last election, which saved many useless, hamster-wheel, hurtful conversations. i like the lidding concept also and will add it to my grab bag of behaviors-in-company. thanks, Jim! (pun intended on hamster wheel!)
sorry for the duplicate.. i made this on my cell phone hours before i typed nearly the same thing again earlier. i didnt think it worked.
I was just curious, how many movies have you had greenlighted in comparison to Ms DiPippo's work?
As far as flaws with the story and production values, many times writers of the original story are leveraged out of the final production due to a "director's vision" or a studio bean counter. "Benjamin Button" went through several re-writes from it's orginal drafts before the camera rolled. I'm sure Nightsweats was no different.
If this was an ad hoc pyschoanalysis of Ms DiPippo's distemper with Hollywood bedwetters and other "…homo, commie-lovin' sons a guns…", you might consider returning your counseling degree back to the cereal box and get a refund.
If she has a "lack of talent" then please send us YOUR IMDB link so we can look at your Kubrickian efforts. It's easy to pitch spitballs from the safety of the critics chair. It's not your artistic ass on the line up there on the screen while cowards munching on stale popcorn and flat Coke Zero extemporaneously try to determine a production's relative merits.
This helps to explain an incident that happened to me. I had gotten along well with a gay (and Hispanic) colleague for several years, but on election day of 2004 he saw me in the hallway and asked me why I wasn't out trying to keep people from voting. I was puzzled, but laughed it off as I'm the token Republican in my department and often get such "jokes" directed my way. The next day, however, he was standing in the hall complaining to a couple of other people about how Bush wanted to put all gays in camps. I came up, listened for a moment, then walked away. As I did he decided to unload on me and fired off a few personal insults. I was completely shocked. As much as the academics I work with are a pretty far left crowd, they were usually able to maintain the civility that DiPippo notes was lost in her encounters. The genuine and irrational hatred bubbling just under the surface of this guy really shocked me. Good lesson for me, I suppose.
How about a tv show called "Light Bills of the Rich and Famous?" Let's hold their feet to the ire.
This is an excellent point. I recently attended a dinner party that was populated with mostly conservatives except for 1 couple. Everyone else agreed to not discuss politics or religion, or anything else that might spoil a fun evening.
Sure enough, the 2 liberals started in on everyone with their, "Now you're gonna see what a REAL leader can do…." and "Anyone not on board with Obama is a pure racist…." They kept this up for about an hour before I had enough and started to engage them. When I raised a point that they could not refute they pulled a typical liberal tactic and blurted out something completely insane like, "Yeah well Bush should be tried and hanged for war crimes…."
Now this is to force me to derail my position to address nonsense. I would have none of it and demanded that they answer my questions honestly. Needless to say the evening turned into a disaster and I was blamed for encouraging their behavior. "You should've just let them say what they wanted…"
NEVER. never will I just sit quietly while fascists like this spew their rhetoric unchallenged.
"You're wrong because you're ugly."
Fixed that for you.
Neener-neener.
and too much of themselves!!!
Or else say, "You do realize that everyone else is being polite to you by not talking politics. Why are you special?" Or, if they actually say something about racism in that context say, "How nice, you just called me a racist. Why do you think that's acceptable in polite company?" Or even a very simple come back of, "You're being rude."
Often enough people just really don't realize they're being rude if no one actually *tells* them they are being rude.
Engaging the political opinions *still* doesn't let them know that they were being rude because they probably figure it was their opinions rather than their behavior.
The only problem with the concept is that liberals can recognize you as a conservative if you refuse to be a lid. You refuse to talk about politics, so you clearly must not agree with theirs.
If you try to avoid talking about politics in Hollywood, or any other liberal enclave, I guarantee you will get this response: He's afraid of talking politics? What is he, a f__king Republican? Not being obsessed is a dead giveaway.
Brilliant! This is my experience too. As a white, heterosexual, Republican, Christian male it has been made clear to me countless times that I am everything that is wrong with this country.
Until they need me to keep their project on schedule and on budget. THEN I’m a grand fellow!!!
Your last line, Hank, says it all!
Jonah Goldberg's book "Liberal Fascism" was a real eye-opener for me in how fascism is historically a liberal phenome. Most libs don't realize that if one translates the term "Nazi" from German it is the "National Socialist German Workers Party"….do you see ANYTHING that remotely resembles "republican-conservative" in that title? If you look at what Hitler promoted in 1920 it is eerily close to modern liberalism; Please compare holistic health [Hitler was a devout vegetarian] and Whole Foods, eugenics and abortion, Aryan mythology and modern Wicca, universal healthcare, anti-Semitism and Rev Wright. The list is endless from gun control to Nazi medical experiments on the unborn to modern stem cell research.
Socialist Geo. Orwell coined the original term "liberal fascism" in the 40's and meant it as a good thing. Modern liberalism, as the ugly step-child of 1930's Progressivism, is "fascism with a smiley face".
I'd rather go down swinging, too! Keep the faith, amigo.
Yeah, Dulcamara, you hit the nail on the head. I was trying to be polite and give "Math Guy" the benefit of the doubt. Ms. DiPippo's article has nothing to do with her work as a writer nor does she complain about not getting work as he implies.
He uses a typical leftist tactic espoused by the infamous tactician, Saul Alinsky: discredit the source of dissent rather than debate the merits of the argument in order to inhibit and silence them.
Glad to see there are others willing to "Hoist the black flag, roll up their sleeves, and begin slitting throats…." (not literally of course….)
Don't know who wrote that, but it fits.
I kept telling folks that I wasn't going to vote for Obama because I disagreed with his policies. When I explained my reasoning, most folks understood my choice and respected it. I only got called a racist once.
Gerald, have you been pulling off the top of my skull and peeking at my brain?
As one that remembers that disaster of Jimmy Carter, (I was in the military at the time, and slightly more insulated against the "Misery Index" than those poor folks that had to take it full force), I FIRMLY BELIEVE that PBHO and the libs will pay dearly in 2010, if we survive that long(?).
There had to be a Jimmy Carter before a Ronald Wilson Reagan.
Keep the faith, brothers and sisters; salvation is coming. And if we can help each other get out the message, so much the better.
Hey Mac, I'm actually reading Alinsky and Mein Kampf for a research project. If you can get through them as dispassionately as possible you can see the obvious methods of liberal "thought" [OK, I'm being polite here] and its exercise. It's kinda spooky and I don't mean that in a racist fashion although I was once chastised by a local race hustler for using it as a VERB. You know as in, "…that really 'spooked' me…" for which I received a stern finger wagging from local caucasian Venice Beach douche bag with his rasta-bag hat, "Yes We Can" t-shirt and a serious case of soap avoidance.
HL Mencken
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats" H.L. Mencken is the original quote.
As a former US Navy "Spook", we sorta, kinda, didn't have too much problem with the more visceral execution of this quip. And Jefferson did make the comment about the "tree of Liberty" being "watered in the blood of tyrants" from time to time. I don't think he was waxing metaphorically, though.
Now that we live in "Hopey-Changey Land" with President Zero standing atop a sun-kissed, flower ladened hill conducting a chorale of everyone singing in harmony while holding a bottle of Coke Zero, I really miss evil Sithian habitues like Fred Thompson and Darth Cheney! People may not like Cheney but at least I knew where the old SOB stood and could trust his consistency unlike BO who has the spine likened to a bag of marshmallows.
many thanks…
I'll have to keep that retort in mind when I come down there. Keep the faith! LOL
Liberal? Gunfight? SPORK?!?! WAHAHAHA!
But first you have to make sure that the spork is NOT made of plastic to impact the environment nor made with convict child slave labor in China. What are the EPA regs on this? Does your spork have the necessary permits and insurance? Don't forget tax/licensing fees. No animals can be harmed during the production of this spork and the spork must regular breaks, healthcare, daycare and four years of free college.
We must have certain number of sporks that qualify for low-income housing and affirmative action preference in jobs that only a knife can do. Anybody know if Obama has appointed a "Spork Czar" yet? If you are the one using the gun against a spork then the gun must be unloaded although an elegant pistol-whipping is not precluded.
Oh, dulcamara, you are my hero/heroine….whatever…Great questions! Still more sayings to squirrel away for the future! Brilliant!
Woot!
A Spork-Czar……
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As an ex-Angelino (Echo Park) who has done work in Hollywood (and even in 'fabulous' WeHo district), I can empathize with Ms. DiPippo. When I left LA, I realized it stood for Liberal A**hole, with their Liberal A**hole Lakers, Liberal A**hole Clippers, Liberal A**hole Dodgers, and Liberal A**hole Kings. But, I also realized that these Liberal A**holes are liberal is because the overwhelming majority of them are so spiritually vapid that a leftist worldview gives them some claim on compassion — that they're human and not some automatonic machine. And, these were the people who were telling me, an avid user of the public transportation system because Angelinos don't know how to drive, that An Inconvenient Truth was more than Al Gore self-fellating in his gas-guzzling Lexus and how I MUST! see Al Gore self-fellate in his gas-guzzling Lexus. These people weren't just devoid of soul, but of brain as well. I hope (a la Shepherd Fairey) that the Governator and Mr. Soetoro can redistribute some intelligence, but I won't hold my breath considering the brain trust the latter has collected.
Don't be so surprised — why else do you think hippies and the VW are so indelibly attached?
I guess my biggest problem is that not enough conservatives are hoisting that black flag. The liberals have no problem playing dirty, we need to do the same.
I had a different experience with a group of Canadians, however, we were all staying at the same RV park in Oregon, rather than wine-tasting. Perhaps that explains why they were so reasonable, moderate in their views, and courteous. BTW, as you already know, of course that behaviour cannot help anything. Your experience was with an arrogant, bigoted, and more than a little jealous person.
Some people on this thread have mentioned how liberals are STILL clinging to their Bush-bashing while being conspicuously silent on Obama. It's already been discussed how The Onion has been doing this and the newest issue is no exception: a cover story about Sasha Obama seeing "scary Bush twins" like in The Shining. So pathetic, and I'm sure it makes the SWPL writers of The Onion feel SO open-minded to make Sasha Obama the normative character to identify with.
The Spork Czar will oversee that the stimulus package is "shovel ready"
I have encountered the same thing far too many times to even count. I think the most egregious was in the middle of a game development meeting, when a visiting designer dropped the phrase "Buck Fush" into the middle of a TOTALLY unrelated discussion.
It is exactly Fascism — and don't think the Democrats are unaware of that fact, either. Read "The True Believer" by Eric Hoffer. One thing he discusses are the factors and institutions which help people resist mass movements. Institutions like religious faith, strong family ties, artistic expression, meaningful work, scholarship. And what are the very things Democratic policies destroy? They either devastate them outright, as they've done with work and family, or pervert them into political tools. It's hard to believe this isn't a conscious, deliberate project. (Paranoid? Maybe. Wrong? Well…)
Libs now invest their entire emotional well-being in the Movement. All activities, all relationships, all FACTS are evaluated only in terms of how they support the Movement. Achievement becomes redefined, so that the only thing to aspire to is to rise within the Movement — which is accomplished by being more fanatical and obedient than everyone else.
This will not end well.
Thanks for the heads-up, but as you pointed out, this town is full of plenty of independent work. Not all of it measures up; in fact, most of it is probably pretty bad, but the people doing have a lot of heart. The quality of the film is unrelated to the topic of her opinion piece. Her writing, at any rate, is the best I've seen here. You are also correct about the final analysis: money is the real politics in this town.
"Anyone not on board with Obama is a pure racist…." The one thing we've learned over the past election is that racist is a code word for anyone who's not socialist. So, in that vein, I guess I'm a racist — I'd rather stand up for freedom and be called a racist than cower to such drivel.
You know that's true! Just the other day I ran over one with my James Bond Aston Martin…Mr Hippie is now "indelibly attached" to the bumper. I did go to an environmentally friendly car wash that uses recycled water a little later and hose him off. His added weight was making the car pull to the "left".
I think "shovel ready" is an understatement. More like front-end-loader ready….
I thought it was because patchouli oil turned into an industrial adhesive when combined with filth….
Why else do you think they're atheist — just like an infant, they have difficulty believing in something they can't see.
Amen brother….
When someone calls me a racist, I say "I'm not a racist…I hate EVERYBODY… separate but equal, but especially YOU, of course" Then I offer to drop them off in the Crenshaw district after the bars close and see if they can get a cab home. No takers so far.
It's also easier to admit to being a racist. It throws them off. Then I ask them if they are going to lynch me yet.
That's awesome, I offer to do the same except I use North Philly. You can here crickets as the offer floats there all by itself….
Funny how the snappy dialogue dries up when a guy soils his union suit….
That's awesome, I offer to do the same except I use North Philly. You can hear crickets as the offer floats there all by itself….
Funny how the snappy dialogue dries up when a guy soils his union suit….
Thank you! I came up with the global warming comment after some little coffee barista nitwit tried to convince me about the validity of CO2 related global warming. I said that "People, exhaling CO2, are the biggest danger. If you didn't have people then you wouldn't need cars. So save the planet, stop global warming and kindly hold your breath until you flatline. Thanks. I'll take extra foam on that"
What a JOY to read! Thank you for so beautifully articulating the insanity of the left!
Nah, it's strictly because they're attracted to Hitler-Porsche partnerships like moths to a flame.
I see you've played Knifey-Spooney before…
Isn't that from a Slayer song?
Naw. There were 2 million unemployed losers at the Inaugural. Hand 'em a spork. Tell 'em it's their hall pass to the soup kitchen. It's what the "stimulus" was meant to pay for.
I played Mumbly Peg with a hammer once…on my Oprah blow-up doll…I got it from the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. I have it tied down at the Goodyear hangar.
You must be a writer or something! That's just too good. I have to clean my monitor now!
Imagine the size of Oprah's spork….
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