Democrat Utopia Nothing More Than a Fantasy
by Tim SlagleCap and Trade, the biggest tax increase in American History, sailed through Congress without anybody even bothering to read it. What will prove to be perhaps the biggest historical change to the American way of life seemed nothing more than a Congressional mouse click, the Terms of Service Agreement on a new software installation. What is it about Democrats that they have such trust in other Democrats?
There was no debate, no discussion; in fact the bill wasn’t even finished when they started voting on it. Yet they all knew they would like everything in the bill, and rushed the vote. I’m somewhat envious of the common goal they all seem to share, but I’m also suspicious of why nobody bothered to read it. Granted it was fifteen hundred pages, Fourth of July recess, and the deposit on the Martha’s Vineyard cottage wasn’t refundable.
I think there is also something else at work here: Democrats tend to have more faith in the system than they have in the individual. When President Reagan tried to close the Department of Education, he was considered to be against education. It’s not just spin, Democrats really think that way. They feel it’s important to keep the Department of Education, because without it, there will be no education. Without the Department of Health, we would all be sick; without the Department of Commerce, the economy would fold. Ditto for the FDA, the FCC, FAA, and the rest of the alphabet soup.
I’ve been a fan of Rush Limbaugh for quite some time; he is an incredible source for information and salient points. Unfortunately, I can’t repeat anything I hear in front of Democrats, because once you do, your point is considered moot. It doesn’t matter if the statistic you quote comes from the Congressional Budget Office or the United Nations, if you say you’ve heard it on Rush Limbaugh, your point is dismissed, and the conversation is over. (Not only don’t Democrats want to listen to Rush, they don’t want to listen to anyone who admits to listening to Rush.) Yet, these same people claim to know everything about Rush. How is that possible?
Democrats don’t have to listen to Rush, (or Fox News either) because there are other people charged with that task. Organizations like Media Matters do all the dirty work then translate it for all the Lefties. So they never have to soil their mind by exposing it to a contrary opinions, or risk being converted to Conservatism. (For some reason, people on the Left believe they are incredibly susceptible to brainwashing, so they feel it is better not to listen to anything contrary.)
I assume the same thing happened with the energy bill. Like the trust they put on Media Matters to tell the truth about Rush, there are people in the Party they trust to read the bill. Since it had the Waxman-Markey brand on the label, Democrats knew there was nothing but good old-fashioned Marxism inside.
There is nothing more secure to Democrats than a big bureaucracy–it makes them feel safe. Perhaps that’s why so many of them linger on in colleges longer than the average American. Inefficient bureaucracies and musty old buildings with union swept halls are warm fuzzy places for them. These people are the kind that like being looked after–it is the natural state of the Left.
They want to live under a huge bureaucracy that will direct their life, from the time they are born into a government hospital through their time in government schools, then punch the clock at a government job until a government appointed doctor gives them an assisted suicide. A Democrat Utopia would be like a human zoo where the lions are kept separate from the zebras, every one is fed, and the doctor comes round once a year. Just keep re-electing Democrats who will insure the air is clean, your food is safe, your retirement is secure, and the tithe is paid.
That’s a big one. When you decide to become a Democrat, the need for you to ever contribute to charity is completely eliminated. Every election cycle Democrat candidates are exposed for being skinflints when the 1040s are released. There is always a ridiculously small number on the lines of where charitable deductions are listed. The contribution is always so small you would think it was an accident, like they thought their $100 donation to the Breast Foundation was a subscription to a porn site.
In actuality, I think they believe that membership in the Democrat Party is their donation to charity. The Party is their Church and the leaders are their clerics. Why should Al Gore give more than a couple hundred bucks to charitable causes when he has made his life work saving the earth from prosperity? (That could explain why so many of Obama’s appointees didn’t feel the need to pay taxes–churches are tax-exempt.)
Never mind that Gore’s “charitable’” works have netted him billions. That’s just a bonus, and as most people like Gore will tell you, the nature of his job requires certain amenities. The Pope doesn’t fly coach either.
I’ve yet to meet a public “servant” that didn’t whine about being underpaid and brag about how much more they could make in the private sector. Personally, I think it is the duty of Americans to help out these dedicated “servants” by removing them of their obligation and set them free to find their fortune.
If you don’t want to read your assignments, it’s time to get a job. We need to make Democrats learn responsibility. Call it “tough love.” We need to lock the Democrats out of Government, the same way that a parent might eventually need to change the locks on the house while a 30-year-old child is at the Arcade. We need to tear down their posters, throw away the bongs, and put their X-boxes out on the back porch. Let’s turn the basement into an exercise room.
Our next opportunity is coming in 2010.
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You're right. The problem is their mindset. They don't trust people, they trust governments, even though the history of government involvement has been an unmitigated disaster, and the history of personal freedom has been mankind's greatest achievements.
You are quite accurate: liberals believe that individuals cannot do anything for themselves, especially if they are "disadvantaged!" Of course, that list is variable and keeps growing by the day.
The period we are living through now will be looked backed upon with sad eyes.
Not to nitpick Tim, but it sailed thru the House, not Congress. We've still got hope the Senate can kill this monstrosity.
Democrats feel secure with a big beauracracy, particularly with a Marxist approved brand like Waxman Markey. The next thing we know, we are the United States of California–bankrupt and a crummy place to live, work, and worship.
Great post Tim. I think you particularly nailed the piece about liberals getting their translation of Rush (and everything else) from folks like Media Matters.
The Democrat party is a tapestry of odd ball pressure groups out to reshape the country in their own twisted image. Be it supposed Hispanic Catholics that support pro-abortion Dems, Gays, union lackeys, transsexuals, anti-2nd amendment types, so-called enviromentalists, socialists, communists, Michael Jacson fans (just kidding RIP!)you name the freak show and they're Dems. Go ahead try to deny it trolls, mainstream working Americans CAN'T identify with the ultra-liberal agenda that we see being enacted….
There is no comedic relief when the voters send in the clowns to office. I believe this piece of dog doo is expressly designed to reward the greedy Democrats and punish the honest citizen. Most of their legislation is the same. Why should the clowns bother to read something that they already know is a heaping pile of crap with the hidden agenda of lining their pockets and citizen control at it's heart.
The scales have fallen from Colin Powell's eyes–now the General is concerned about the massive debt the Dear Leader is accumulating in His quest for utopia. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/03/p...
Gee, what tipped Powell off? Weren't all of the Dear Leader's pronunciations prior to the election about "economic justice" and "spreading the wealth" sufficient warning?
The perfumed diplomat Powell put race first in endorsing the Dear Leader, and was too stupid to see what the Dear Leader's Four Year Plan would do to the country. With the Dear Leader's declining poll numbers and economic ineptitude exposed, Powell is one of the first rats off the sinking ship.
as parents, our mantra was always: have we taught our son well enough to survive if we get run over by a train? we were in a constant state of reevaluating our course so the answer to our question could be a definite, YES, he can! (we had the pithy slogan FIRST)
we should think of dems as our out-of-control children. at this point, if we (the conservatives) get run over by a train, the rest of you are screwed. the dems are running the household and they need some hard lessons on consequences related to their unbelievably arrogant decision-making skills. time is of the essence. i can hear the train on the tracks. time for a come-to-jesus meeting with the kiddos.
We should test your theory. Let's let the dumbocrats pick a state. They can all move there and govern just like Nannie Max intended. Then, in two years, we can compare how we are doing to how they are doing. Of course, until the two years are up, we will need to build a wall to keep them from fleeing paradise.
Big Government = world wars, hundred millions dead. Now that's care you can believe in.
Too late. He picked his horse, made his bed, ran his bell. . . now he has to ride that lying bong head to the end.
We have already run that experiment, it's called California! A $24 billion failure and the democrats are still balking at cutting their beloved entitlement programs. Unreal!
The BIG government is only getting BIGGER!!!! thanks to all of the special interest groups and the think tanks the democrates have….I just think that our country started sliding down once the house and senate where majority of democrates and now you get a pregressive democrate running the show…. WHERE ARE IN FOR IT FOR THE NEXT MINIMUM FOUR YEARS!!!!!
But somehow none of the Democrats in Washington notice. Maybe we should move the capital to Oakland.
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Anybody interested — Palin just announced that she's resigning on July 26</>. Hannity is playing the press conference.
Anybody interested — Palin just announced that she's resigning on July 26. Hannity is playing the press conference.
Anybody interested — Palin just announced that she's resigning on July 26. FOX is playing the press conference.
Dom – I wonder how Stewart Smally will vote? I sure hope there are enough blue dog democrats to offset the Olympia Snowe's of the senate.
Couldn't agree more…………..There are no far left fringe groups anymore……..It's just called the Democrat Party now……..
Jamesb – as always, well said! I sure hope a bunch of those soccer mom democrats are finally having buyer's remorse as they see this human tele-prompter/grifter who kinda sorta used bland flowery "yes we can hope for change" b.s. to cajole them into thinking he would govern from the center.
I think he'll vote for it. He's a twit and really craves acceptance from his peers, Minnesota is pretty liberal and stupid (they elected him after all) so I'm guessing he'll be a toe-the-line doctrinaire, reliable liberal. I don't think Reid can muster the votes, and plenty of Dem Senators can see how far Firefly has over-reached already. So I'm sorta hopeful.
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True. Apparently the key to living in Cali-marxist-land is to be a "public servant" of some type, retire early and watch the cash roll in…just the retirement benefits portion of the budget equals the bugets of several small states. Ex-mayors making $500,000 a YEAR? Retired? Are there ANY TAXPAYERS left in California?
Ya, will this throw MSNBC and CNN of stride? Will it interrupt their All Jackson, All the Time coverage?
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"Democratic Think Tank" – that really puts the 'moron' in oxymoron…
It's really strange. I listened to the whole thing and the reason still isn't fully clear to me.
I agree about Byrd voting for it, but not necessairly SPECTRE. He's now got a Democratic primary challenger so he'll be trolling for every vote he can get. Just my 2 cents James. Happy Independence Weekend BTW!
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She hasn't given a reason yet.
or…she said she felt pain listening to Sanford…Maybe she wants out of this horrible political spotlight…I was afraid she would choose "normal" and tell everyone to shove off.
Not to pile on but "moot" means arguable. Good article.
Don't forget Susan Collins, the other RINO from Maine. As a Texan, a state that continues to grow and contribute more to the success of this country than any little piss-ant state like Maine in every single way, I'm astounded by the arrogance and self importance of elected representatives from states like Maine and that little freak show called Vermont, North Dakota, New Hampshire, etc. Texas has a top ten in the WORLD economy and we have TWO Senators and they can be mooted by a states with less people in them than a good sized SUBURB in Texas. Ya I get the Constitution and understand that the House is supposed to balance things but does it?
I have heard this twice now and I still don't get it. There seem to be several reasons. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens and how it plays out.
Palin: ""I'm taking my fight for what's right in a new direction," she said…
She's done.
Powell has permanently branded himself a racist. His MAIN motivation for supporting the Kenyan-in-Chief was skin color. Period. He basically said so. Powell should remove himself from the public eye, buy a cottage near a lake and remain quiet for the rest of his days. That would be the decent and honorable thing to do. But he won't, he'll find a fence to ride, no matter how bad the pickets jab him in the A$$!
Maybe she going to run for a House seat? Also, Senator Murkowski is up for re-election in 2010. Maybe she'll step aside for Palin. She was appointed in 2002 and elected outright in 2004. I'm taking bets that Murkowski announces that she has decided not to run.
The Democratic Party was the party of slavery. What else needs to be known as to why they prefer the plantation system where a chosen few sip mint juleps and the rest work in the fields or serve them in the big house. All the worker's needs, their true basic needs, not any of those elusive desires, just their actual needs, will be taken care of. And for those that object to the system, there is the whip.
I thought "moot point" meant "we can still argue about it, but we're at a point where it doesn't matter anymore."
Absolutely. No f__king way anyone can take her seriously now.
I would be surprised if she ran for a House seat. I think she will probably drift toward the free-lance campaigning, like Romney and Huckabee. But I am just guessing.
"THE" House seat. Alaska has ONE! Murkowski is like the rest of that delegation, she prefers Washington D.C. to living in Alaska. Palin NEEDS to be in the middle of the action to be relevant, that means LIVING in Washington D.C., being on Fox and in front of any TV camera that is turned her direction. Morning shows, "The View", Letterman, etc. She needs to be raising money through her PAC, working the phones…I believe she can't get elected POTUS, the press simply WON'T allow it, but she could bolster a run by Romney or whomever emerges as the front runner…the people "out there" who hate her can't articulate why, perhaps they think they're smarter or just because MSNBC told them to. There is a huge resevior pf voters that are intrigued by her story and her life. McCain would have LOST BY MORE without her, that's a statistical fact.
Joan of Arc-religious zealot/schizophrenic -misunderstood warrior????
Great comment. What is the skinny on this, I say…
I like her but what???????
Are China and India exempt from the Malarkey ? Will we be sending more manufacturing over there due to enviral restrictions here ?
No. She is out of the race. Resigning now, in the middle of her first term, effectively ends her political career. It´s 2009. Without her office, she has no platform. To be a plausible candidate, she needed at least one term, preferably reelection. which she could have won. And I´m sure she knows it, whatever her reasons are.
I don't think so…she has a really high "Q" rating, EVERYBODY has heard of her, whether they view her positively or negatively. That is KEY. Like the old addage, "BAD publicity is better than NO publicity at all". She has three long years to battle all the mostly unfair negative press and remake herself into a serious contender. Starting NOW is very smart. Obama will continue to go down the tubes popularity wise as unemployment and inflation set in, we'll have a similar situation to the late seventies when things got SO BAD under Jimmy F—ing Carter (I always include the F—ing part) that challengers are LINING UP TO CAKE WALK IN TO THE Presidency. Carter lost to the late, great, R.W. Reagan 49 states to 1. He'll i was 18 and dumb as a rock and I could have beat Carter, he was THAT UNPOPULAR. Revisionist history has tried to help him but I remember how bad it was…he was the product of an unopoular Republican POTUS, much like Barry Hussein is the product of an unpopular POTUS, be it fair or unfair is irrelevant.
No. Sadly, she is out of the race. Resigning now, in the middle of her first term, effectively ends her political career. It´s 2009. Without her office, she has no platform. To be a plausible candidate, she needed at least one term, preferably reelection. Which she could have won. And I´m sure she knows it, whatever her reasons are.
I don't think so…she has a really high "Q" rating, EVERYBODY has heard of her, whether they view her positively or negatively. That is KEY. Like the old addage, "BAD publicity is better than NO publicity at all". She has three long years to battle all the mostly unfair negative press and remake herself into a serious contender. Starting NOW is very smart. Obama will continue to go down the tubes popularity wise as unemployment and inflation set in, we'll have a similar situation to the late seventies when things got SO BAD under Jimmy F—ing Carter (I always include the F—ing part) that challengers are LINING UP TO CAKE WALK IN TO THE Presidency. Carter lost to the late, great, R.W. Reagan 49 states to 1. Hell I was 18 and dumb as a rock and I could have beat Carter, he was THAT UNPOPULAR. Revisionist history has tried to help him but I remember how bad it was…he was the product of an unopoular Republican POTUS, much like Barry Hussein is the product of an unpopular POTUS, be it fair or unfair is irrelevant.
Q rating, my ass. Most Americans don't really even know her — they know the Tina Fey stupid-b_tch-who-thinks-she-can-see-Russia-from-her-house caricature.
Of course, P.J. O'Rourke has said that what used to be called shame and humiliation is now known as publicity, so you may have a point.
Now's the time to invest in cap-and-trade Malarky derivs…
That's what I'm concerned about. My husband is a manufacturing engineer. Lately, the higher-ups at the plant where he works have had him working on projects that they have been debating on keeping here or sending to China. Now methinks their decision will be to send the projects overseas. They are set on destroying the manufacturing base of this country.
Very good question. There is almost always more to these stories.
That is exactly what she'll do. I expect her to be house hunting in a D.C. suburb asap. Next will be to gin up the money machine, it is the Mother's Milk of politics. She can work donors reletlessly, if they say no she can keep after them. I see her as the logical choice to balance a Romney or Huckabee. the country is ready for a working Mom V.P. Her kids will be three and a half years older and she can be well settled in three years to make a serious run. If she does well in New Hampshire and Iowa and other early primaries she can stamp her own ticket. I believe with all my heart Barry Hussein Socialist will be a ONE and DONE POTUS. I have faith…
That is exactly what she'll do. I expect her to be house hunting in a D.C. suburb asap. Next will be to gin up the money machine, it is the Mother's Milk of politics. She can work donors reletlessly, if they say no she can keep after them. I see her as the logical choice to balance a Romney or Huckabee ticket. The country is ready for a working Mom V.P. Her kids will be three and a half years older and she can be well settled in three years to make a serious run. If she does well in New Hampshire and Iowa and other early primaries she can stamp her own ticket. I believe with all my heart Barry Hussein Socialist will be a ONE and DONE POTUS. I have faith…
Tell us why. I ready to listen…
Yes, they are considered "developing countries" under Kyoto and therefore are exemption from imposing restrictions.
Tell us why. I'm ready and willing to listen…
exactly, but it is used here, as it is frequently, as "irrelevant." People hear it in a sentence and think that is the meaning instead of looking it up and seeing the original meaning. It is one of those "morphed" words like say, diet. Everyone is on a diet but people commonly say it to refer to a reduced calorie regimen.
Jake, you are making me go on like a fool, you lug.
Cris
Except that Romney is rich and has a list of achievements, and Huckabee has at least completed two successful terms as governor. So have Tim Pawlenty and Jeb Bush. Yes, I like Jeb.
Nothing good is ever announced on the Friday of a three-weekend.
My husband thinks she is going to write books and make speeches (I'd go–my sister saw her and said she was marvelous.)
But still..I digress. On the Friday of a holiday weekend? Good Lord, we've already mixed the daiquiris! ha-ha
Sen. Inhofe swears they currently only have 35 votes for it in the Senate. I hope he's right.
Ask 100 hundred people if they have ever heard of Sarah Palin and I guess 90 will say yes. The majority of those will associate her with the MSM caricature of her. Pundits and newspaper writers with less formal education insulting her intelligence have fed the lie machine.
"Completed" their terms is the key distinction here. She's finished as far as elected office is concerned.
IF she somehow manages to stay in the public eye and IF she works hard for a successful Republican presidential nominee, she'd be far from the worst Secretary of the Interior we've ever had, and probably the best-ever Secretary of Energy.
But those are only two of the big IFs to consider…
I don't know about the rest of you, but right now this "parent" feels like the children have stolen the family car and wallet and gone on a massive bender maxing all the credit cards and emptying out both bank account and savings account while writing a ton of bad checks that are going to bounce very, very soon.
A back bench, junior Senator that had accomplished EXACTLY NOTHING in his ENTIRE LIFE and wouldn't have been elected in Illinois except for that fact that he is half black and Chicago has enough votes in it to neutralize the down state vote is currently running a great country into the ground. Indeed anything can happen…
Mmmmmm…daiquiris…
No one gave her any credit for being governor of Alaska anyhow. If she steps back and works the background or takes a role in Congress, she might gain some more credibility. Either that or she can campaign for other candidates in 2010. She was an undeniable draw for McCain and was the only thing that kept him from losing in a true landslide to PrezBO. I don't think she has to have finished a term to get elected. Obama didn't finish his first term as a senator and he got elected. Obviously, the precedent is there for people who haven't finished holding their office to get the job.
She's had sarahpac.com up and running for six or so months now. People with organizations named SARAHPAC.COM don't fade into the weeds and disappear…this is obviously a strategic move to become more relevant which is impossible to do from B.F.E. Alaska…I like Alaska, I've been there but really, it's just this side of the moon politically. Had she resigned as governor of a big state in the central or eastern time zones, well maybe that would be bad politically.
Gotta agree with everyone saying she's done — she's done, at least politically. Not many voters will vote for someone who abandons their post when the going gets tough. I'm sure Fox News will hire her as a correspondent.
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If China and India weren't EXEMPT they would LAUGH at this crap bill. Remember when the Kyoto Accord went down to defeat in the Senate 99-0? Have we fallen that far, that fast? I'll give Al F—ing Gore that much credit. He smells LOTS of money in carbon credit trading and he will not give up…
"moot" adjective definition 2 of little or no practical value or meaning; purely academic. verb definition 5 to reduce or remove the practical significance of; make purely theoretical or academic. "Moot" typically means a point that is no langer relevant to the argument. Once the Senate has 60 votes to block a filibuster, technically a 61st vote is "moot".
You know why they feed the lie machine? Because it WORKS.
Since these Dems aren't bothering to read the bills they pass anymore, I'm going to suggest that a Republican slip something into the next bill admidst a fat earmark for some Democratic toad. Something like, "Upon appropriation of said funds by the State legislature, Congressman Charles Rangel of New York shall be feathered in public and made to drive about Times Squre in a golf cart, giving away all of his liquidated assets to passers-by."
Maybe they'll read more carefully after that.
Hmmm. Let me set this down…okay now, one more thing…its the hit piece from Vanity Fair! I'm willing to bet she is as mad as a hornet about it!
*Final answer.
(for this evening)
Yeah, but this is like coming into the game with only one stack of chips, you have a K-10 off suit, they just flopped a five-seven-six in a suit you don't have, and the guy next to you has enough chips to force you to go all-in any time he wants.
Sure, you can pull out a win, but Christ, think of the odds you'll have to beat.
Obviously, the precedent is there for people who haven't finished holding their office to get the job.
Yeah, but do you really want her following in that guy's footsteps? Like I said — lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.
Bullsh_t, horsesh_t, and plain-old-sh_t futures are looking up, too.
Oh absolutely! I don't know what many Americans would do without cable news, Fox specifically. I guess we'd scream at our TV's like back in the CBS "Uncle Walter the Commie" days…he would sit there and lie and editorialize and call it "news" and not blink an eye…the newspapers are dying a ignominious death and the "lefty papers are going down the fastest…
At least now Obama has a shot to catch up and pass her for executive experience gained!
Utopia is a Marxist's Disneyland. It doesn't work in the real world.
No thanks on the Jeb. No 3rd Bush. No way.
They keep telling us there is a global overpopulation problem. Resources freed up, less impact on the environment. Imagine all the recyclables. Sacrifices must be made if we are going to save the slimy spotted swamp snail. They love big government.
I wish it were so, believe me. But there is no way quitting her job halfway makes her more relevant. You don´t win by not playing. She is a half-term ex-governor now. What is she going to do until 2012 to convince people – the sceptics, not her fans – she is Presidential material?
My take is, the bastards have won and hounded a decent, honest citizen out of politics.
I agree with this. I don't understand why you are saying that there is no difference between "purely academic" and "beside the point" and that is how I hear it misused. I am sorry I was unclear . When I read that reference to people's attitude towards repeating Rush in this article it did not sound correct to me.
She has an open chair on Fox. Fox has the biggest cable ratings in the business BY FAR. They will either guest her every second they have a chance or even hire her although she's better off being an independent voice of conservatism. I BET she moves to the D.C. or New York area and begins to be a FIXTURE on talk radio and national news programs. She's telegenic and articulate enough to cut it. She'll gain experience and poise being on camera ALL THE TIME. She can photo op the heck out of the kids, if she wants, she can become a national figure just by being available. She may ne seeing the same impolsion that I sense in the Obama agenda. Today Collin Powell, tomorrow…MSM? Nah, they're duped…
I am at the ready to make phone calls w/ my posse.
She's run a town and a business and served enough as Alaska's governor to have the equivalent of a full term.
That might mean something if you could show me that he's learned anything.
My son is shooting for college in 7 years–does he have a master's yet? I would be thrilled!
You mean like the Diet of Worms?
I kinda feel like I'm on one right now!!!! ha-ha
But Reagan wasn´t just anybody. He had spent two decades speaking and writing and honing his message, and he was a two term governor of California.
I agree that Barry is a disaster, but you cannot rely on history repeating itself. He will keep substantial voter groups in his pocket and will have money and organisation in 2012 as well. I also expect naked fraud. And the mass media will never give up on him.
Possibly they will pork it up in the Senate to get votes, try that conference-thing with the House to get a unified version, it will die when the session ends, and everyone gets to boast to their constituents how bravely they voted for their interests. They have done it before on controversial issues, it would not surprise me.
Respectfully I disagree. I'm not part of her political machine or anything I'm just looking at this like an analyst would…Alaska is NO WHERE. Like I said, just the time zone problem is enough to make this a non-problem vis a vis a national run. I repeat, she has BIG name recognition, more than Romney or even Huckabee. Try it, ask a few people to id those three names. EVERYBODY has heard of Palin, mostly in a negative way, thanks to Tina Fey. She can devot FULL TIME to burnishing her reputation and credentials that are a bit weak for a national run. I don't believe she will be POTUS, I believe totally that enough people would be comfortable with her as V.P. especially after THREE YEARS of as postitive, controlled public exposure as possible. The press will ZERO IN and try to destroy her now. If she plays it smart, doesn't do anything STUPID (get a boyfriend, get caught doing drugs, go lesbo, whatever) the PRESS CAN'T WIN. she can BEAT THEM, by pounding her drum EVERYDAY in major media markets, not Wasilla or Anchorage.
It is great for Reforming the system.
Yes, you might also say we are opening a real can of wo… ach…
think she's planning a coup?!
um, somehow you failed to pass me one…
Rush is not in NYC or DC and he is certainly in the thick of things. Location does not matter when all you need is a microphone. She can travel for appearances, and there are plenty of places to do video. Her best bet remains to stay away from the cesspools, which she can do very easily.
I agree to a point. But we live in a 24 hour newscycle now and people can rocket to prominence out of now where much easier than 1964 when R.W.R. spoke in support of Barry AuH2O…Palin is nothing if not a recognizable personality. She attractive enough to resonate with middle and conservative women and will do well with the spouses of those women. As the country continues to careen left a palpable conservative Soccer/ Hockey Mom with THREE YEARS of exposure (Four plus including last years campaign) can have a BIG say in the agenda.
If that is the plan, I hope she pulls it off. But I don´t see it. I think the bastards won in hounding her out of the office – so much for the will of the people – and we as a People get the politicans we deserve: powerhungry, corrupt, narcissist, lying thickskinned thugs. Not citizens.
with fresh strawberry and bananas…*passing with flag cocktail napkin*
We need it tonight, pattiann!
We should all contact the Senate and the House and tell them if this bill passes, they can expect to be voted out in 2010.
Rush is wealthy enough to call the shots, he sits in Florida but the signal feeds through the studio in NYC. . If you want to be a player in politics it helps ALOT to be accessable. Like it or not NYC is the media news center and D.C. is where political coverage emenates from. Just being in the same city or cities will bring her MASSIVE exposure. Just not fighting the audio delay inheriant in remote feeds will make her seem much more "on the ball". You've seen and heard what I'm talking about.
There you have it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U4dE3I1Wwg
Ruined financially and kept from doing her job by fraudulent ethics complaints. It seems being elected doesn´t count anymore. And being a normal person is downright harmful.
Pattiann- it seems the admin won't let me pass an adult beverage!
Besides Rush isn't running for office. He can wear shorts and flip flops everyday…Palin will have to and can "look the part" of a serious politician by dressing and being "in studio" face to face. I bet she's "in studio" with Greta before the end of the month.
If a dim bulb like San Fran Nan can screw the country up as a hobby because she has a ultra wealth husband I have enough faith in my country that a more "down to earth citizen" can run and win. I hope to see a turn over of 50 to 70 seats in the mid terms. I think things will be that bad and that it'll turn into a referendum on the DumDum, Obama.
If a dim bulb like San Fran Nan can screw the country up as a hobby because she has a ultra wealthy husband I have enough faith in my country that a more "down to earth citizen" can run and win. I hope to see a turn over of 50 to 70 seats in the mid terms. I think things will be that bad and that it'll turn into a referendum on the DumDum, Obama.
Lots and lots of politicians leave one elective office when they get ELECTED to another (usually, higher) office.
I can't think of any who quit in the middle of a term, and then later ran for something else.
There's a big difference.
bad admin.
Why would you expect a country full of people who support politicians like Pelosi would vote for someone like Sarah Palin?
Why would you expect a country full of people who support politicians like Pelosi to vote for someone like Sarah Palin?
No, I think she's flying the coop…
Yeah, it's a "strategic withdrawal" — just like those helicopters on the embassy roof in Saigon.
I´m a pessimist exactly because people like Pelosi are allowed to screw up the country in the first place. And she´s hardly alone. If we have to hope that things will be really bad just so that sane people can get elected…
Also, the current recession will end. They all do. Sure, we will not see great growth and unemployment will probably stay high. But it is dangerous to rely on the other side screwing up. I do not think Congress will change hands in 2010. If it does, there will be a hell of a party at my place.
I´m in. What´s the password?
Pelosi sits in a "safe" district, she's bullet proof there. But I believe there is hope in the rest of the USA…not all Dems are in safe districts…
Look at her own words…"We're not retreating. We're advancing in another direction"… so she has made my words inaccurate, and I'm good with that..she all but says she taking her show on the raod…
The Dutch economy was nearly destroyed in the 17th century over speculation on tulip-bulb futures.
The "hot air" deriatives that we're sure to see will make the tulip trade seem like a sound financial exercise in comparison.
I literally threw a beer party at my house in Austin on Nov. 6th 1994. Why? Even though it was a wensday the House had changed hands fro Democrat to the GOP for the first time IN MY LIFE, at that time the first GOP majority in 40 years. I just can't believe that I can go on underestimating the American voter. It'll be an up hill struggle but if (BIG IF) it is properly managed the Dems can be seen for what they are, Big Gov., Big Tax, hypocrites with contempt for working people across this country.
The problem is that this move – though I respect her reasons – raises questions about her just when she needed to reassure people about her seriousness.
"No one gave her any credit…" Not the media or her opponents, but they are not the target group. The people out there are. And they trust leaders who finish their jobs. Obama is a freak accident. I would rather not rely on that precedent.
Not that I can do a lot. I could carry her ammo, perhaps?
Not that I can do much. I could carry her ammo, perhaps?
You mean Luther didn't actually subsist on a diet of worms? That's public schools for you, I missed that one in PS 99.
I heard that. But she mis-attributed the quote to MacArthur. It was USMC General Oliver Smith who said it — on the occasion, by the way, of the worst F-up in Mac's career.
That's interesting..thanks for the info…
Smith commanded the Marines that had to fight their way out of the encirclement at the Chosin Reservoir.
Anyway, although I think we disagree on what will happen, it will be interesting to see what Sarah does…I know I'll be watching.
"I’ve yet to meet a public 'servant' that didn’t whine about being underpaid and brag about how much more they could make in the private sector."
This is so true. I come from a family of teachers and all they do is whine and bitch about how they are underpaid and how society doesn't value education enough. Of course, they ignore the fact that California teachers are the highest paid in the nation and that they only work 182 5-hour days a year.
It also amazes me that they work in the most socialist of occupations (state-employed teacher) and they hate everything about it, but they still think socialism is a good idea.
Ya fer sure, and I acknowledge that you may be right about Palin. I thought Chesty Puller commanded those troops at Chosin.. they conducted the greatest fighting retreat in history against overwhelming odds and didn't leave a SINGLE Marine behind. Those were tough Americans…didn't he say when the Marines were surrounded " we have them just where we want them" or words to that effect?
But sitting upon the top of this party structure is a core group of Ivy League Elitists. Basically, every idea they have begins in Europe and then the elitists embrace it here and force it down our throats. Gay marriage? Europe. Cap and Trade? Europe. Socialized Health Care? Europe.
We basically have two choices, amend our constitutuion or destroy europe.
But sitting upon the top of this party structure is a core group of Ivy League Elitists. Basically, every idea they have begins in Europe and then the elitists embrace it here and force it down our throats. Gay marriage? Europe. Cap and Trade? Europe. Socialized Health Care? Europe.
We basically have two choices, amend our constitutuion or destroy Europe.
Well said.
Good call on Puller — I think the quote's right — at the time, he was a regimental commander in Smith's 1st Marine division.
True, and funny you mention Europe. I just spent a month in Europe and can say, without hesitation, what a screwed up mess they live in. Italy is nice, the veggies are great, the history is fanastic but sheesh what a mess. France is expensive but a nice place to visit, Amsterdam is a cesspool of sex and drugs and England is drowning in it's own socialist stew. The completely by into the "global warming" myth, there is no debate, the House of Commons (dominated by Labor, like our Democrats) is just like our House. They are arrogant and wealthy and have been bilking (all parties) the already over streched tax payers by billing them for all kinds of ridiculous expenses. They're a bunch of liberal elitist criminals, and tax cheats to boot. Sound familiar?
True, and funny you mention Europe. I just spent a month in Europe and can say, without hesitation, what a screwed up mess they live in. Italy is nice, the veggies are great, the history is fanastic but sheesh what a mess. France is expensive but a nice place to visit, Amsterdam is a cesspool of sex and drugs and England is drowning in it's own socialist stew. They completely by into the "global warming" myth, there is no debate, the House of Commons (dominated by Labor, like our Democrats) is just like our House. They are arrogant and wealthy and have been bilking (all parties) the already over streched tax payers by billing them for all kinds of ridiculous expenses. They're a bunch of liberal elitist criminals, and tax cheats to boot. Sound familiar?
Who DID take her seriously? She's the love child of a clown and a streetwalker, judging by her embarrassing appearance…
Anyone who has a fundamental understanding of economics would recognize that Cap N Trade will merely result in a shift of economic activity to places where the costs are lower. The idea that it will result in a worldwide net decreaase in carbon emmissions is as naive as the belief that there is some scientific evidence that definitively links C02 emmissions to a worldwide long term climate shift.
At a fundamental level, the Democrats do not accept the science of economics.
She never had a chance El_Gordo and you know it… Good riddance to bad rubbish I say
I would add that Democrats suffer from arrested development. They haven't grown up. They don't want to be responsible for themselves — like any adolescent, they need a safety net. They want the government to always be there, the way Mommy and Daddy were when they were twelve and slipped out of the house at midnight to hang out on the street corner and got picked up by the fuzz for being out after curfew. They don't want to have to spend the night in the slammer with those scary people or post bail or find themselves a lawyer. They want to pretend to be adults so long as Mum and Dad will come get you if the world gets too scary.
Like all perpetual adolescents, they want to be popular, so they emulate what the cool kids do, and all the cook kids are in Hollywood. Never mind that these bozos are blathering idiots, haven't had an original thought since they were potty trained and only parrot what the propaganda media (the smart ones, they think) tell them is true. They are Lenin's "Useful Idiots", but they're beautiful useful idiots and besides, it's so cool to CARE — about AIDS, about Africa, about the planet and (to quote Gwyneth) "all those really, really old buildings".
They’ve had this crap packaged and ready for forty years no surprise. Anybody that can remember the’60s can predict their next move, worn out Marxist horse squeeze. The good news we can see them clearly now and can be defeated in 2010.
Note: Just got back from a Tea Party in north metro Atlanta, Cobb country seven to eight thousand people showed up, Herman Cain was the MC. It was an impressive group of achievers as opposed to ACORN parasites. This is a powerful constituency, vote and boycott, raise cain.
I agree, the Democrats should be on the outside looking in. The problem was we had them there just a few years ago and the Republicans turned around and acted like Democrats– spending too much of our money, turning up the corruption, and basically eroding the trust that got them there in the first place.
If we can't fight the special interests and the lobbyists, our only defense is to have the Congress be controlled by one party while the presidency is controlled by the other. It worked well in the 90s and in the last two years of the Bush administration. It's better to let them argue with each other and not accomplish anything– saving us all a ton of money.
True, it's up to the people of Midwestern states like Ohio and Michigan and indiana to KILL THIS BILL, or if you like, in honor of the late David Carradine, "KILL BILL 3" Massive pressure needs to be brought upon the swing votes from states that use electricity that is generated by coal fired plants. Most of those are where the coal is, West Virginia, Kentucky, Ohio, Pennsylvania and that electricity is fed around that region. Of course KKK Grand Dragon Bobby Byrd will vote for it, as will that POS turncoat Specter from Penn.
I'm guessing the obvious, she will position herself for a run at national office. Frankly being witness to the outright arrogance and hubris of the current Democrat leadership I'm surprised there isn't a stampede of qualified Republicans waiting at the appropriate office to file to run against Democrats all over the country. Granted it's early…I believe she needs to fight back against the SNL/MSM crafted image they have hung on her. the only way is to slog it out EVERYDAY in D.C., taking them on day after day. I'd look for position papers and a book outlining her political philosophy. Of course building a nationwide fund raising apparatice is the FIRST PRIORITY. She'll be on TV 24/7. that's my guess.
I hope your right (well I know your "RIGHT"!) Specter has made the conscience decision to be a lefty so is his primary challanger more liberal than he? If so, ya he can safely go to the middle which means pretending he cares about the same middle class that Obama is killing…If energy prices spike this winter and the misery spreads Obama will be the proverbial turd in the punch bowl by spring and ALL DEMs will be running to the middle to try to escape their votes. An effective media blitz needs to keep fresh in the mind of voters who the ENEMY is, rich Democrat office holders laughing at God fearing, hard working, middle class Americans…we'll see, and of course the media will be riding interference for the Dem party. Thank you and Happy Fourth to you and yours! See you on Sherman's March!
Don't forget Susan Collins, the other RINO from Maine. As a Texan, a state that continues to grow and contribute more to the success of this country than any little piss-ant state like Maine in every single way, I'm astounded by the arrogance and self importance of elected representatives from states like Maine and that little freak show called Vermont, North Dakota, New Hampshire, etc. Texas has a top ten in the WORLD economy and we have TWO Senators and they can be mooted by a state with less people in it than a good sized SUBURB in Texas. Ya I get the Constitution and understand that the House is supposed to balance things but does it?
"THE" House seat. Alaska has ONE! Murkowski is like the rest of that delegation, she prefers Washington D.C. to living in Alaska. Palin NEEDS to be in the middle of the action to be relevant, that means LIVING in Washington D.C., being on Fox and in front of any TV camera that is turned her direction. Morning shows, "The View", Letterman, etc. She needs to be raising money through her PAC, working the phones…I believe she can't get elected POTUS, the press simply WON'T allow it, but she could bolster a run by Romney or whomever emerges as the front runner…the people "out there" who hate her can't articulate why, perhaps they think they're smarter or just because MSNBC told them to. There is a huge resevior of voters that are intrigued by her story and her life. McCain would have LOST BY MORE without her, that's a statistical fact.
I still remember Powell throwing his weight behind Barry, and no matter what he does in the next two or ten or twenty years, that is always the first thing I will remember. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.
Or to quote Hunter Thompson: "You can't wallow with the pigs in the evening and soar with the eagles in the morning."
New direction? Down the tubes, perhaps? Because if she's heading to Washington, the drive-by media are only going to increase the ferocity of their attempts to flush her headfirst down the toilet of public opinion.
I don't care what we think about her, and I doubt it matters — this is still Political Suicide.
I don't think so…she has a really high "Q" rating, EVERYBODY has heard of her, whether they view her positively or negatively. That is KEY. Like the old addage, "BAD publicity is better than NO publicity at all". She has three long years to battle all the mostly unfair negative press and remake herself into a serious contender. Starting NOW is very smart. Obama will continue to go down the tubes popularity wise as unemployment and inflation set in, we'll have a similar situation to the late seventies when things got SO BAD under Jimmy F—ing Carter (I always include the F—ing part) that challengers are LINING UP TO CAKE WALK IN TO THE Presidency. Carter lost to the late, great, R.W. Reagan 49 states to 1. Hell I was 18 and dumb as a rock, a long hair rock and roll bass player and I could have beat Carter, he was THAT UNPOPULAR. Revisionist history has tried to help him but I remember how bad it was…he was the product of an backlash against an unpopoular Republican POTUS, (Nixon and Ford) much like Barry Hussein is the product of an unpopular POTUS, be it fair or unfair is irrelevant.
At the very least, this adds a huge hurdle for her to overcome in the future, and that's not a good thing.
But politics is strange and anything can happen. So it's hard to rule her out of anything right now. Though, this will make it harder.
The Palins are not rich and as far as I know, they have $500K legal debt from frivolous ethics complaints. That´s where I guess this is coming from.
Resigning in the middle of her first term is not a helpful political move. Her political career is over for now, I regret to say. But she must know that.
I don't think so. It's a strategic withdrawal so to speak. Alaska for all it's, ahem, charm it is in the same time zone with a lot of empty ocean. She needs to be on prime time eastern time zone news programing, not by satelite from Wasilla. She obviously has her sights set higher. She can be on TV every single day, talking about national issues, without the jackals in Alaska nipping at her heels concerning provential Alaska politics, because, really, beside oil and mineral production Alaska is irrelevant nationally. She MUST BE IN the GAME. The game is in Washington D.C. and New York anchored east coast media markets…
"moot" adjective definition 2 …of little or no practical value or meaning; purely academic. verb definition 5 …to reduce or remove the practical significance of; make purely theoretical or academic. "Moot" typically means a point that is no longer relevant to the argument. Once the Senate has 60 votes to block a filibuster, technically a 61st vote is "moot".
She has an open chair on Fox. Fox has the biggest cable ratings in the business BY FAR. They will either guest her every second they have a chance or even hire her although she's better off being an independent voice of conservatism. I BET she moves to the D.C. or New York area and begins to be a FIXTURE on talk radio and national news programs. She's telegenic and articulate enough to cut it. She'll gain experience and poise being on camera ALL THE TIME. She can photo op the heck out of the kids, if she wants, she can become a national figure just by being available. She may be seeing the same impolsion that I sense concerning the Obama agenda. Today Collin Powell, tomorrow…MSM? Nah, they're duped…
Murkowski would not do that. And even if she did, there´s no need for Palin to step down now. It´s just not done that way. I´m afraid that´s not it. And it will not look good to the voters either, leaving an unfinished job.
I agree to a point. But we live in a 24 hour newscycle now and people can rocket to prominence out of now where much easier than 1964 when R.W.R. spoke in support of Barry AuH2O…Palin is nothing if not a recognizable personality. She's attractive enough to resonate with middleclass, conservative and politically center type women and will do well with the spouses of those women. As the country continues to careen left a palpable conservative Soccer/ Hockey Mom with THREE YEARS of exposure (Four plus including last years campaign) can have a BIG say in the agenda.
You reveal much with your blitherings, Planet_Hero.
None of it good.
Cap and Trade, like Global Warming or the new "climate change", is about one thing — reducing American Middle Class Prosperity which is a thumb in the eye to the rest of the world be they African or South American Marxists living in huts or tin shacks or "sophisticated" Europeans taking the bus to the opera because they can't afford a car and even if they could afford a car, can't afford the petrol to get the thing running. To see Joe Sixpack who works in a FACTORY driving around in an SUV sets their teeth on edge. Washington elites who don't fly commercial and have limos pick them up at the curb won't be affected, but then that's why they're elites. I mean the Soviet Politburo didn't participate in the classlessness, did they?That sh.. was for the proletariat.
For most politicos, life is fairly easy. Even Al Franken can be a Senator (talk about rubbish) and he will not get one percent of the smears.
Palin is a normal, honest person who didn´t sign up to see herself and her family dragged through the mud and financially ruined. What was done to her is unprecedented. The frivolous attacks against an elected governor also negated the will of the Alaskan voters. If being able to stand constant vilification is a prerequisite for any office now, "national office will dwindle down to the unhealthily singleminded, the timeserving emirs of Incumbistan and dynastic heirs. Our loss."
No thanks to people like you. What rankles me is that I am getting exactly the government YOU deserve. You are an idiot without a shred of decency.
Oh yes, she should be proper and respectful and cover herself in a burka…
Don't be an idiot, kadaka… Oh, maybe you can't help it though. Sorry!
Burkas are a part of MUSLIM life, not American life, but you are so ignorant that you can't see that there is more than two possible way to live (i.e. Either "live free" or be a "muslim islamist" or whatever)n so you ASSume I want that ugly troll Palin in a burkah just because you want her in a skimpy bikini… Idiot.
Oh look, Planet_Sub rears his head and suddenly all the good comments here get voted down. Coincidence?
news update *Jamesb* Rush has moved the studio from NYC to Texas ==NYC taxes being what they are and getting more so.
*Heroin sniffer*………..hiding behind your cloak of anonymity, spewing vile and dispiteous hatred for someone who has never harmed you–suits you to a T
in case you do not have a dictionary in your trailer,
dispiteous-==malicious: cruel: pitiless
Really? I had no idea…good for him, as a Texan I can say that his opinions are much more in line with the average Texan than with our typical friendly New Yawker…he maybe the most powerful person in radio. Because of school and other responsibilities I rarely hear him…
I believe you have amply shown who is the idiot.
My own theory is they live in constant fear of chaos. The idea that civilization can only exist under the constant guidance of government. If government stops functioning, all their fellow human beings will immediately mentally revert to cave man status and start raping, burning and pillaging. It's this internal fear that drives them to ever more government, ever more control, because with out it, they have no future.
And its not just liberals and democrats who seem to believe this, though most of them are liberals and democrats. There's plenty of big government conservatives who believe something, anything, must be done.
In the summer of 2006, my town, like a good portion of the east coast was under water. The local government was completely over whelmed by the ordeal. They didn't have anywhere near the man power to be every where at once. So what did We The People do? Did we riot? Did we burn cars? Did we loot? No. We took care of ourselves, our families and our neighbors. People used their own vehicles to block off flooded streets. The police were making rounds, checking with these volunteers, seeing if everything else was okay, and then they moved on. When faced with the prospect of little to no assistance from the government, we handled it. It can be done.
I like this comment in your piece:
"For some reason, people on the Left believe they are incredibly susceptible to brainwashing, so they feel it is better not to listen to anything contrary"
Total liberalism, as you stated, is on a faith. AGW is a sort of religion to these people. They are loony.
Only an independent person would look at both sides of the story:
Left: Belief that mankind and a molecule, at 4 parts per hundred thousand, are responsible for accelerating the temperature, even though recent trends show otherwise.
Right: Data showing that the solar magnetosphere is at an all time low, as are sunspots, which correlate to William Herschel's data from 18th century. That CO2 levels have been higher in the past. That the earth is a dynamic planet and nothing stays constant, except for change.
This is what we are up against? This will be easier than shooting fish in plastic baggies.
Have you noticed not one person is able to correct Rush? They simply go after him personally — his weight, Oxycontin, hearing, etc.
LMAO!Fell outta my chair!Tarred and feathered! I can picture it too in my mind.Priceless!
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