Letterman = Uncool
by Tim SlagleLast week, I took a little bit of heat for calling David Letterman a hack (and also dashed any remaining hopes I had for ever appearing on his show). Just in case there’s any doubt of my allegation, I present to you the following videos. Here’s a clip that ran on Wednesday June 11, 2008:
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Now here’s a segment that ran just this past Wednesday, March 25, 2009 (Please note, that the man making his bracket picks, was far too busy to pay any attention to the stock market; and couldn’t find the time to shop for an appropriate gift for the British Prime Minister — or at least get DVDs that work in the UK):
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What’s most most amazing to me is that Letterman pays a sizable staff WGA scale to come up with this stuff. And you thought government workers were lazy. Of course, considering Letterman’s documented propensity to repeat the same exact jokes night after night, I’m beginning to wonder if he might be getting forgetful in his old age. Perhaps his writers are aware of that and have been been taking advantage.
Not only are these segments annoying idol worship of the new star in the White House, and downright mean to a President who was all too human, you really have to wonder how long they intend to run with the joke.
What a country!
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====Last week, I took a little bit of heat for calling David Letterman a hack.=====
Letterman is a hack and I think even he would agree with that. If he thinks he’s a nonpartisan “comedian” then he is as deranged as he seems.
Letterman is one of thise guys I want to like, but just can't
Letterman was cool… 20 years ago.
The last time I found Letterman funny was sometime pre-Bush. In fact, I could say that about most things involving TV and comedy. Although I happened to catch a bit of Leno's opening monologue the other evening, and he was poking some anemic fun at Obama.
Dear lord, when exactly did Letterman turn into Kathie Lee Gifford?
At the point where this society started elevating former high school "class clowns" to a position of respectability, we started our slow spiral downward. I mean, a dim wit like Bill Mahre defines stupid as a Batchelors degree from Yale, and a Masters degree from Harvard Business School, and no one bats an eyelash. What's HIS academic credentials? Probably didn't graduate from high school.
Even from the beginning Letterman was all that "inside joke" stuff. You know, like you're the last one in the conversation. I never saw where he was laugh out loud funny. And even watching his show with people who liked him, I still didn't think it was clever or smart, just kind of slick-stupid. Kind of a "you had to be there", except you were there.
Letterman knows that the angry conservatives want him to skewer the President. He seems to take a particular delight in not doing it. But not all is lost for people on this site. Dave usually does small town news a couple times a month. And I bet many of the posters on here know their cuts of meat.
I'm not sure why Tom Slagle would consider himself someone to be invited as a guest onto Letterman. No one other than the devoted hundred who post on this site knows or cares who he is. If he can get himself cast in a movie, or come out with a hit record, or do a stand up routine, then maybe. But a compulsive whiner and complainer on an obscure extremist website hardly rates.
Agreed.
He is not funny. Never was. Never will be.
Obama can fill out an NCAA bracket? Wow.
Color me impressed.
My kids sometimes watch Letterman, and I've tried to watch along with them a few times. Honestly, though, it is so mind-numbingly juvenile that I can't take it for more than 10 or 15 minutes before having to leave to do something (anything) else.
Letterman hasn't been funny since I was in high school, and that was over 20 years ago. He hasn't changed at all. So stale. So lame. He's just a east coast alternative to Leno, kind of like the Mets versus the Dodgers – who the heck cares? And what about the genre in general? How long ago was the opening monologue-interview guests-lame jokes format invented? He hasn't done anything that wasn't done 50 years ago. No originality, just the same old same old. It's a great thing to have 100 other channels to watch instead.
I'm just fascinated that the late-night comedians, who you'd think would treat **all** authority irreverently, have suddenly found a new sacred cow in a Chicago political hack who has never actually run anything more ambitious than a political campaign.
What would Lenny Bruce think of this milquetoast bunch? They save their ire for the previous President, who never lashed back at his critics and who has now exited politics and is now out of the public eye, because apparently these so-called comedians are unable or unwilling to make jokes about the present.
I'm just fascinated that the late-night comedians, who you'd think would treat **all** authority irreverently, have suddenly found a new sacred cow in a Chicago political hack who has never actually run anything more ambitious than a political campaign.
What would Lenny Bruce think of this milquetoast bunch? They save their ire for the previous President, who never lashed back at his critics and who has now exited politics and is now out of the public eye, because apparently these so-called comedians are unable or unwilling to make jokes about the present.
All you conservative Leno lovers can't take a joke. Who's the sensitive whiners now? Geez.
I stopped watching letterman 8+ years ago for this same type of mean spirited "comedy". Why don't they show Obama trying to open a window like it was a door? Was that cool or uncool?
David Letterman is as american as apple pie. Its sad that we have resorted to competing late night talk show hosts for a two party system.
I used to think Letterman was funny back when he was working at NBC. The Andy Kaufman stuff was hilarious. Since he moved to CBS, it just seems like he's permanently angry at the fact he didn't get The Tonight Show. Why should I be watching someone who seems so unhappy at his job? He just sort of sleepwalks through everything now, sort of like Harrison Ford.
Maher graduated HS and Cornell Univ. He may be self-righteous, but not stupid. As for Bush's attendance at Yale and Harvard, he's what is known as a legacy admission: he got in because his father and grandfather (a US senator) went there, not because of academic qualifications.
Letterman always seemed angry and channeled his rage to mock. Just like Roseanne Barr, the first time around it was funny, after the 1000th playing of the same tune, it just gets tedious.
Letterman would make a much better weatherman (weather predictor, not a domestic terrorist like Obammy's friend) than a late night "comedian/talk show host". The guy just isn't funny. Nice to see his hypocracy pointed out last week though, he was apparently relentless in making fun of Bristol Palin and her out-of-wedlock baby, but he just recently bothered to marry his old lady shack job, after several years and one kid. Letterman is a filthy pig.
When we make the Tonight Show the place for the President to try to sell his policies is he still cool?
I will respect the office again when the man holding it starts to do the same
Tim, as always well done
Thank you. Leno has no balls. He buys his million dollar cars with the money NBC pays him while generally peeing on conservatives. Yes he bashed Clinton, but feasted on Bush and conservatives. HE WON'T TOUCH OBAMA! No balls.
I used to watch Letterman until he got a pathological hatred of Bush with his nightly Bush jokes. He and Leno have different kinds of humor – Letterman's is more cerebral – and he can poke fun at himself. But the nightly Bush rants finally turned me off to him.
Letterman is just one more Lefty political shill.
"Color"?!?!?! Did you just call Obama an ape?? I'm telling!
(Sorry, practicing my 'troll' routine)
Is that the Coulter Cornell or the Olbermann Cornell?
He just sort of sleepwalks through everything now, sort of like Harrison Ford.
Ooooh. Burn.
Even if President Bush did get in solely on his last name, he still went to class, hung in there and graduated…the fact that he graduated with the people who relied only on their academic qualifications for admission, makes him just as smart, does it not?
Or is getting in SOLELY on your academic merit what really counts? In that case, what is it exactly that got Obama into HLS? I would love to believe that his grades were good enough…but then no one has actually seen his transcripts (both Columbia and Occidental) ,have they?
Taking the jacket off his first day in office was more than symbolic. It, apparently, was foreshadowing.
He still had to complete the work to be awarded the degrees. Or are there also Legacy Master's Degrees?
Let's get this right —
You and the other freaks on this GOP board think David Letterman = uncool…
but you guys think Rush Limbaugh= REALLY cool? HA HAHAHAHA !
you gusy think that Alfonso idiot is cool? amanda peyerd is cool ? Really…
The GOP is really a bunch of freaks. Talk about celebutards…
And WHO, WHY and HOW did winking Mr. Nobody Tim Slagle get a gig on here?
Oh that's right – like all the other bedwetters who complain all day here — Timn Slagle IS A NOBODY's nobody!
Palomino – Your snarky comment about Bush is willfully stupid. I've heard it before, and always from someone who didn't go to an Ivy League school and doesn't understand how it's done. (BTW, Bush was only a legacy at Yale undergrad. Harvard B-school doesn't admit on a legacy basis — neither does West Point or Annapolis.)____Being an Ivy Leaguer myself (but not a legacy admission
And I'm sure Affirmative Action had nothing to do with Obama's academic career at all…
As I was going to say before my post was swallowed: I can tell you that the legacy system doesn't get you into the school. Being a legacy gets you some extra points, along with the points you get for activities and your essay, but it isn't dispositive, and a lot of legacies don't get in. (Pinch Sulzberger, owner of the NY Times, was a legacy at Columbia but didn't get in. Too dumb.) But being a minority gets you a LOT more points than being a legacy. (Unless you are Asian, then you get screwed over because there are just too many of them getting into the good schools.) Now of course, we have a substantial cohort that are affirmative action AND legacy (Michelle Obama, anyone? Her brother's legacy at Princeton), and they will want to preserve that almost-insuperable advantage. So no one talks about abolishing the legacy system any more.
true trolls never ever apologize….
Obviously I need the practice.
Thanks Tim. I agree that Letterman is uncool, and appears to be full of seething hatred. This hate is getting old.
A few months ago, my husband and I were talking about two of the TV programs or Networks we no longer watch, which we used to watch regularly: The Tonight Show with Jay Leno and Comedy Central.
I was the Comedy Central fan. I watched that network almost exclusively for several years. Until Jon Stewart. From a marketing standpoint, it floors me that they are willing to lose people in my financial demographic as a viewer. But they are. They DROVE us away. We didn't want to go, but they did it.
When I realized that it has been over 7 years since we've watched The Tonight Show, I was surprised that the time had passed so quickly. We could no longer stomach the political attacks. Problem is, finding something else to watch is quite a challenge, if I am looking for fair, non-partisan, non-Marxist, non-socialist entertainment. (Also less vulgar and less bloody violence.) Prior to September 11th, we were already moving away from Leno, but after the attacks, he was actually patriotic for a while, and it was so refreshing and made us feel good. Then little by little the hate started rearing its ugly head again.
Now my entertainment comes primarily from surfing the web, which is hard on my eyes, and is not relaxing, at all. I do miss the days of being able to enjoy comedy or drama, on the sofa, at the end of a day.
Of course, "24" exists to give my life purpose! Thank you too, Jack Bauer.
So much hate in this one.
When Leno breaks after his nightly ten-minute original comedy monologue, I wander over to Letterman's "comedy morgue" to kill the few minutes of commercial delay. As usual, Letterman's act remains nothing beyond snide and hollow mockery of anyone or anything his lazy limited powers intellectually resents.
It's fortunate for us all that his ratings remain well below Leno's, otherwise it would mean that cynical empty-heads had finally become the majority.
ahem:
http://www.amazon.com/Europa-Tim-Slagle/dp/B000JL...
Hi Gary,
Well said sir!
Is there an online resource to view the ratings? … Connie Z
Has anyone? Anyone….seen my old friend, Johnny?….anyone?
Back when he was on NBC, I really liked Letterman. He has really grown tired at CBS. Leno is obviously the smarter of the two because he knows how to keep his humor balanced and free from bitterness. Letterman just seems like come cranky old man now. He used to be the young, hip guy. What happened?
Yeah, he was the son of a Congressman. Big deal. What matters with your life is what you make of it.
Bush flew a notoriously difficult jet in the National Guard. He landed safely every time. When you're the son of a famous man, and you're in an airplane, nothing about the name will save you if you make a mistake.
Just ask JFK, Jr. Oh, wait…
President Bush: our first affirmative action president
Obama has put out a link to help people like you to overcome your anger. Check it out.
http://www.samhsa.gov/economy
yep….and he got better grades than Jean Francios Kerri. Might even have better grades than the one. Who can tell without transcripts? Transparency, change we can all hope for and shuck at the first instance of political epediency.
you don't get into Harvard Business school as a legacy. And it's tough too- so at the end of the day you still must do the work to get the grades and Bushie's grades, while not stellar were solid and as good or better than the Haughty John Kerry (who, by the way served in Vietnam) and other so-called 'intelligensia'…
And yet his grades at both Yale and while doing graduate work were better than another Yale student by the name of Al Gore.
Gore also flunked out of graduate school. Yet everyone on the left trumpets that this imbecile is somehow smart because he can crank out inaccurate powerpoint slides.
How did Al get into Grad school with crap grades? Perhaps having a daddy that was Senator from Tennessee might have helped, y'think?
None of the late night comedic would bother me in the slightest if, it was applied evenly, or at least attempted. No, like many here, I was a big letterhead eons ago. I just lost interest when the "edge" was just like every other ones edge and so on and so on and so on…….
To some, I guess a talk show appearance is cool. I don't know. To me, it's a little disrespectful of the office. Maybe, I'm just not cool, anymore….
IMO, James he (Letterman) never changed.. he always came across (at least to me) as the cranky old man on the porch, who regailed you with the 'why he was so po'd at everyone'… it just used to be humorous to start with, and then it just slipped from an 'humourous retrospective" style to a "I know better than you and it's funny to me, screw what you think about it" style.
He flew F-102 Delta Daggers and their twin F-104 Delta Dart. They are Mach 2 capable and not so much difficult as they were dangerous- they had a tendency to explode- not good- and he was considered a top pilot. He volunteered for Vietnam duty under Operation Palace Guard but the F-102 series was obsolete and he needed to retrain on other aircraft. His active duty (2 years) was winding down so there wasn't enough time. As far as his Guard duties later on, attendance was always a problem- Kerry didn't attend his meetings either- because of the public's animus towards all things military. He did complete the minimum and was givenhis honorable discharge.
Now, as Paul Harvey (bless hi soul) would say 'You've heard the rest of the story'…
I've never trusted a man with a high-pitched giggle.
A nobody's nobody…. yet you feel the need to read his post and all the resulting comments, then post a few sentences of drooly jabber to apparently justify your pathetic existence to yourself.
Guess we know what you are then…
"Hate"? Can you please stop whining? Don't you people have any pride? I suppose Letterman should run his content past all of you unfunny squares first or something? GET YOUR OWN GD SHOWS THEN….
Or shut up! You whiny little tweens have some nerve questioning the masculinity of ANYONE else when you spend post after post here bellyaching and crying your crocodile tears over the focus of late night comedians. You couldn't possibly be weaker
I liked Stupid Pet Tricks. But that's because the animals were smart and funny. Not so for the host.
Paidforby theDNC: our 575th brain dead troll.
Go back to slurping the moronberry flavored kool-aid, dimwit.
Letterman is now officially at the same level of comedy as Terry Bradshaw and Howie Long over at FOX-NFL. "Hey, were did you get that ugly tie?" "Ha ha! Shut up!" "Hey Paul, would you like some gum or a beverage?" Yikes!
Which one's the Republican?
I am personally shocked to learn here that Letterman has writers. I assumed that Biff hung around Times Square with a tape recorder with a feed into Dave's earpiece, and when the feed goes wacky, that explains the skinny buffalo in the Hummer headlights look Dave some times gets. I thought the only writer he had was a Tonight Show guy who moonlights the Top Ten. Dave has that sad degenerative brain disease that afflicts liberal comedians and turns them into cranks, so please don't let his Angerzheimer's affect your opinion of him. Look what happened to Maher, O'Donnell, and Garafalo, and please, have pity.
Most folk don't know that Lanny Davis (yes, THAT Lanny Davis) was Bush's roommate at Yale. Although diametrically opposed on philosophical grounds, Davis found 'W' to be kind, gracious, funny- and smart as a whip… that's the big lie about him, that somehow he lacks the intelligence to govern (which if you ever see Pelosi you know takes very little) because like many guys he suffers from a mild dislexia… you all are going to miss this guy more than you think…
Wasn't Oblermann the janitor at the other Cornell until Matt Damon found him writing left-wing jibberish on the "absenceofcolor"board?
He drove a Dodge Dart? Maybe I should re-read that, I think I missed something…
oooh namecalling. that works.
LOL!! How zen!
"absenceofcolor"board. I'm so stealing that.
You know what? This really is a racist comment, even though I'm sure you don't mean it as such. Look, whatever problems you have with Obama, the guy is clearly intelligent and has legitimate academic successes. The University of Chicago tried to keep him on their faculty, and even the conservatives on the Law School staff respect his mind.
Sometimes black men accomplish stuff on their own, you know.
"absenceofcolor" is the new black!
Several years ago, I met Dana Gioia (Bush's appointment to head the NEA) at a conference. At a reception, we discussed perceptions regarding Bush's intelligence. He said that Bush is really quite a bit smarter than most people give him credit for being. He also said that his experience with Senators indicated that they're generally very intelligent, both Democrats and Republicans alike.
He said that the House is where all the idiots reside (these are my words, not his; again, he meant Democrats and Republicans alike). The careers of Cynthia McKinney and Michelle Bachmann certainly suggest that Gioia was right.
LOL!
Actually Skip, looking at the weak a… content Letterman produces, we should probably be more shocked that he has writers.
there is a truth to your statement. The House is an easier vetting process; it would make sense that the Senate would be a little higher on the food chain. Not sure I'd compare Bachmann with McKinney who is a true dolt… Biden claims great intelligence but displays precious little, McCain never stuck me as too sharp. Ultimately politics is not for the brilliant as much as the crafty…
ho! the Dodge Dart was a tad more reliable…
Norm Macdonald used to do the best Letterman impression. It wasn't a even a caricature it was just a literal impression–
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyJ9iS8EQpE
stuff like quota filling?
How? Obama didn't specify his race on his Harvard Law School application.
Do you also think that Bobby Jindal benefited from racial quotas and affirmative action?
let this zero go back to his zero prez and the kook site to brag – he really gave to the dum rightnuters
just like all the radicals and their prez zero.
I liked Letterman back in the 80s when he used his biting sarcasm and dry wit for laughs. He was sort of the "anti-hero" of late night (compared to the nice guys of Johnny Carson and Dick Cavett). Over the years he has exchanged what made him "cool" for simple spite and meanness. He's become a "bitter American", to borrow a phrase, clinging to his acrimony and ridicule.
in lib code bush is spelled zerobama
cuz we all know that the quota prez is currently screwing the Real Americans
now go back to the dkooks and brag about your hit n run
Mr. Slagle, I see that you appear on WLS. I used to listen when Uncle Larry and Little Snot Nosed Tommy were regulars. Now it has gone the way of the other AM giants — into the dead zone.
BTW, an old girl friend of mine was on Letterman. Due to a number 1 album and number 2 single. I think it takes more than a self-produced comedy album to make it onto the show. But I'm always willing to listen and I bet Letterman would too, so long as you promise not to karate kick him during the commercial.
BTW BTW, the cool / uncool bit was very funny. In comedy, timing is everything. There is just something about George Bush, the way he speaks or plays a role, that comes across as funny. Actually, I like Bush the man. I just happen to think he was a lousy president.
BTW BTW BTW, Letterman still does Clinton jokes. He now has a segment about the Clinton family chronicles. It begins with Hillary traveling around the world conducting diplomacy while Bill is down at the local Hooters chomping on chicken wings.
I don't think we should throw away old personalities. That may be fine in a fast food, disposable, McDonald's world, but it is good to remember how we got here. It is American heritage.
BTW BTW BTW BTW look for me in my upcoming webcast.
Yeah, but it was really hard to fit the air-to-air missiles under the Dodge.
Man you really need to go find another site to spew your liberal HATE.
You got issues that you need to get looked at.
If you went to a party that everyone there continually pissed you off….you gotta ask yourself, WHAT AM I DOING HERE!!!!
Profanity is a sign of a WEAK mind and your posts are getting weaker and weaker !!!
Yeah, Obama is so cool because he thinks Louisville plays great defense. They lost this weekend. The O-man could only get one Final Four pick right. Not cool.
letterman is just not funny anymore. he used to be on the cutting edge; his stuff at nbc was great. he now just mails it in and cbs should sue him for lack of effort. he is an old, washed-up hack and congress should cut his pay for what he is providing us on the public's air waves.
Oh Tim, this is great. . .yeah, nothing like fresh, new material from the Late Night comic who won't be making fun of the prez because "now we have someone in the White House we trust". Sheesh!
TEHSTUPID: "oooh namecalling. that works."
Oooh, really funny for someone who lives under his grandma's porch.
I suppose YOU & Letterman are both so intelligent that you can fly jet planes. IOh, I suppose not — it takes intelligence to do that !
"you all are going to miss this guy [George W. Bush] more than you think…"
Oh, I miss him quite a lot already.
It's a shame about Dave. I started noticing about 1996 that he was increasingly irritable and cranky – like he needed a nap. There is clearly no passion left in him for television. It was fairly predictable that the Baby Boomers would have to be forced from the workplace at the point of a gun. They're all convinced that they're the center of the universe. The only problem is that when he goes, we get Jon Stewart in his place.
On a brighter note, Andy Richter wil soon be back.
"Sometimes black men accomplish stuff on their own, you know"
Then why do we need Affirmative Action?
I thought AA was based on the premise that Black Men could NOT achieve success on their own, because of institutionalized racism? You can't have it both ways.
actually, black=totalpresenceofcolor, and white=totalabsenceofcolor
" Obama didn't specify his race"
Do you have a link to support that? I had never heard such a thing? Why wouldn't he check the easy box, as long as it was available to him?
And since Bobby Jindal is Asian, he would have needed better grades than Whites or Blacks, to get through the Affirmative Action process. Not only does AA help underachieving Blacks, it makes it tougher for Asians.
Diversity quotas are unbelievably unfair.
And I'm sure all the Kennedy's that went to Haaaaavahd all got in on their academic merits.
At least I still have SNL to give me my weekly dose of balanced satire on Obama. I mean the sketch they did on the re-gift DVDs for Gordon Brown was hilarious material!!
Funny Stuff..
I remember seeing Norm doing his version of Dave and thinking that he completely and brutally owned him. He just took all of Dave's weird little laugh-getting mannerisms and ramped them up to 11.
He calls us squares and whiny little tweens, and then turns around and tells us not to use personal insults.
Gap toothed monkey boy is still hating on Bush?
A. This is not a "party"… it's a political blog.
B. Show me where I said anything "hateful". What a lame comeback.
C. "Profanity"? You must be kidding. Or the most lilly-white polyanna around.
D. Hey Price, shut up, donkey
I personally think that Barry Soetoro (aka Barack) was a foreign student when he got into Harvard. Why else is he covering up his school records and passport that he used to go to Pakistan when it was illegal to do so?
"Yeah, Obama is so cool because he thinks Louisville plays great defense. They lost this weekend. The O-man could only get one Final Four pick right. Not cool."
Really? I thought because he played in the pool and proved to have no special ability at it is what makes him cool. I don't know of anyone who is always right about sports. Even Yankee fans. Of course, having grown up with the Cubs games on all summer long, maybe I appreciate the effort more than the actual winning.
But the contrast with the Bush photo op is funny. The photo op is funny by itself, but I guess Letterman needed an introduction. Why would the Bush people go to the effort of lining up the shot and not check that the moving part — the under inflated basketball — was operational. Maybe that is a glimpse of the Bush presidency. But then again, when you grow up with the Cubs, you have to learn to laugh at things that some people don't find funny — or else you may never laugh.
lame
that's the best you got? come back strong or don't bother
And Letterman actually felt he would be the one worthy enough to follow in Johnny Carson's footsteps! (not that Leno is mind you) But he's just another dweeby smart-ass who can only be funny by using the put-down, and using it liberally. A comic says funny things, a comedian says things funny. Letterman fails by either measure. He should return to his first love, forecasting the weather. At least he and Al Gore could find common cause.
these are the worst comebacks I've ever heard. embarrassing.
Bush did not get into Harvard Business School via legacy, as none of his family ever attended any Harvard-related school. Try again.
insulting me does not win you any arguments
the 20 mike mike cannons were a bit easier.
LOL!
As Bugs Bunny would say…."What a marooon! What a ta-ra-ra-goon-dee-ay!"
a. "party" was meant as an anology (look it up)
b. 2nd paragraph sounded hateful to me.
c. g*dda*n, is a profanity to most folks who don't live in the fetid swamp beneath bridges
d. ooooooh, you and your pixels are soooooo tough.
"a self-produced comedy album"
Stand Up Records is a very well respected label, credited with discovering Lewis Black (among others).
Producer Dan Schlissel won a Grammy for "Lewis Black, Live at Carnegie Hall"
My Album is also available on iTunes:
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa...
What you people seem to want is affirmative action comedy.
Ha! Ha! Ha!
You extremist, kool-aid drinking, lunatic lefties are a hoot. BTW, have you found out who the 'real' mother of Trig Palin is yet?
Wow, it was so easy to get you to push the racist button. We always joke about that around here but I hadn't realized it was that easy a landmine to set.
Obviously you didn't read the comment I responded to, regarding Bush's so called legacy enrollment into college. I was simply stating that Obama could have had a similar 'in' that the Libs are only too happy to overlook in their rush to get back to Bush bashing. Nice try though. Too bad you use the same fallback every time, it quickly loses it's impact and everyone sees it for the weak attempt to put someone on the defensive for what it is. Lame.
I used to think Letterman's "Any joke worth doing is worth over-doing" credo was funny. That, of course, was before I realized it's just another excuse for laziness. Come to think of it, had that epiphany about 10 years ago, when I was fully shaking off my liberal 20s. Coincidence? Hmmm…
If anyone knows about whining, it's you. Whine, whine, whine, that's all you do. And if that's not pathetic enough, you come here specifically TO whine, whine, whine. You're an incessant whiner. What's the matter, all the angry, bitter, morons at DailyKos, HuffPo, MoiveOn, etc. kick you off their site?
"the guy is clearly intelligent and has legitimate academic successes" You know, people keep saying this and I really wonder what this means. It also says something about how much society equates "intelligence" or more to the truth, academic pedigree with leadership ability. I can tell you that they actually have extremely little to do with it, and intelligence itself it notoriously difficult to quantify as evidenced by IQ tests' inconsistency and the research against them piling up. Obama is almost always described with words about his so called intelligence. Based on what? He speaks off a teleprompter almost 100 percent of the time, and when he hasn't, he reveals a very ineffectvive speaker. But still, we don't know his grades, they have never been released. The little about his past that we DO know suggests affirmative action, and why is that racist to say so? The Left agrees with affirmative action, so why wouldn't that be an example of affirmative actions' success? This suggests to me that the left actually looks down on Affirmative action, which then lends credence to its opponents point of view. At any rate, Conservatives with all the Elite credentials are continually derided as "idiots" by the left, but Obama, with far less concrete credentials, is lauded as intelligent and smart in every description! I believe that not only does this show the hypocrisy of the left, but it also shows how completely shallow Liberals are. To Liberals Intelligence, or at least pedigree, matters the most about an individual, and intelligence is demonstrated to a Liberal most by how well someone speaks, even if they don't make sense, or make a single cogent argument. Liberals listen to style and not substance, and that makes sense because liberals are shallow, as are their positions. All style, ZERO substance.
Jimmy Carter was considered a "genius" , a nuclear physicist and the smartest president ever. Reagan, was considered an Idiot actor. The list goes on, but based on this, I will take an Idiot President any day!
That's probably why you don't win any arguments. Have you figured out who the 'real' mother of Trig Palin is yet?
That's probably why you don't win any arguments. Have you figured out who the 'real' mother of Trig Palin is yet?
The truth works for me, dimwit.
I happen to love TEHSTUPID and his ilk. (BTW how many constitues an "ilk"?) These folks are like those punching dummies we had as kids. Remember…knock 'em down and they'd bounce right back for another sock? They're great. I toss out the bait and just like little sea-kittens they rise to take it. They are here for our amusement.
That's the best you got? Come back strong or don't bother.
That's the best you got? Come back strong or don't bother.
That's the worst comeback I've ever heard. How embarrassing for you.
That's the worst comeback I've ever heard. How embarrassing for you.
Affirmative action comedy for an affirmative action president is appropriate.
You seem to care quite a bit, Marv. BTW, how did you chance upon this "obscure extremist website"?
you're not alone. We had a wonderful dog some years ago- a truly world class one, too- and it was pointed out to us that we would really miss her when she departed; so we treasured the waning days. So too, with 'W'…
Some folks can't tell when they're being ignored.
I think what we want is some entertainment. Isn't the same joke about the same man a little boring after 8 years? Just like the Clinton/Lewinsky thing got old. There's a reason why Tricky Dick jokes don't make air the way they used to. Heard any good Harry Truman jokes recently?
The only entertainment for us "right wingers" is talk radio, which if I'm not mistaken, the Dems are trying to legislate out of existence because they can't compete in that forum.
David Letterman is better playing second fiddle to the Starland Vocal Band where he got his start.
Except when you're referring to light. White light contains all the colors in the visible spectrum.
Does on you, you sub literate screeching dolt.
Airplane geek post: The F-104 Starfighter was a very different aircraft from the F-102, though with a similar mission (and even more of a widow-maker, incidentally.) I believe you meant to refer to the F-106 Delta Dagger.
I'll grant you that he's smart and has had academic success, but that doesn't mean that's what got him ito Harvard Law School. Lots of really smart students don't get in. Most schools have a diversity "goal" that they want to meet and, at a minimum, that will get a member of an underrepresented minority admission over someone with similar grades, etc.
Yes, sometimes black men accomplish stuff on their own, but any such accomplishments are diminished (or masked) by the way affirmative action is practiced my most schools in this country. That, as Justice Thomas has said, is one of the pernicous problems of affirmative action.
Dom, that was a typical troll trick. First, spew out all kinds of hatred toward anything right of center. Second, wait for someone to call him on it, then respond with some legalist "show me where I said . . ." Basically just a way to change the subject and waste the reponder's time.
Re Asians: yep. That's why the term used is "underrepresented minorities." Asians are too successful.
Thanks – try tvbythenumbers, or google "tv ratings."
oops… like Bushie we are somewhat dyslexic as well. You are of course, correct. And yes. the Starfighter was indeed a widowmaker with is razor sharp stubby wings… the Germans had a terrible time with it but kept them in service for 15 years. The F-106 Delta Dagger is the aircraft we meant…
I'm not whining. If anything I'm sad as I see the hate take over people like him and you. Let it go. It will be all right. I promise.
What a field day they could have with the Bimbo, Joe Biden if only he were a Republican….
Yet you believe that calling the author of this post a "nobody's nobody" is effective.
This irony of stupidity that you do- is it on purpose, or is it an idiot savant style gift?
Add vacuous hypocrisy to your pathetic writing and reading for comprehension skills.
Geez- can we get some decent trolls please? This one is defective.
Yet you believe that calling the author of this post a "nobody's nobody" is effective.
This irony of stupidity that you do- is it on purpose, or is it an idiot savant style gift?
Add vacuous hypocrisy to your pathetic writing and reading for comprehension skills.
Geez- can we get some decent trolls please? This one is defective.
When he stopped dropping watermelons off rooftops, I knew he'd run out of ideas.
The republican is me. Starting to think I may have to switch and vote for Hillary in 2012. That cat can hunt.
Here's the scoop on "white" light. When all the wavelengths of the visible light spectrum strike your eye at the same time, white is perceived. The sensation of white is not the result of a single color of light. Rather, the sensation of white is the result of a mixture of two or more colors of light. Thus, visible light – the mix of ROYGBIV – is sometimes referred to as white light. Technically speaking, white is not a color at all – at least not in the sense that there is a light wave with a wavelength which is characteristic of white. Rather, white is the combination of all the colors of the visible light spectrum. If all the wavelengths of the visible light spectrum give the appearance of white, then none of the wavelengths would lead to the appearance of black. Once more, black is not actually a color. Technically speaking, black is merely the absence of the wavelengths of the visible light spectrum. So when you are in a room with no lights and everything around you appears black, it means that there are no wavelengths of visible light striking your eye as you sight at the surroundings.
Thanks mr.p. I'm hip. But as much as I try to ignore the little hairy handed ones, sometimes I give in and poke 'em back. Just to get a rise.
True, but they really cut down on the gas mileage.
Letterman is about as uncool as one could possibly get. Remember when he would wear tennis shoes with his suit – what a dork.
Wow, -9 (now -8) for stating simple, obvious facts. A sign of a discerning, non-biased readership.
Meanwhile, the idiotic comment above it, which states a verifiable untruth – that Bill Mahre (sic) has no academic credentials, probably not even a Batchelor's (sic) degree – gets +3 (now +2).
If anyone notices this comment, I'll probably get a few minuses from people assuming I'm a "libtard troll", when in fact I'm a conservative, just not a brainless one.
Tivo or a DVR works well. Letterman hasn't been funny since I was in college – -which was quite sometime and many beers ago
Well it is understandable. He is only good at picking people who don't pay their taxes.
Letterman as funny as an impacted tooth or an anal cyst….
No. Maher is stupid as well as self-righteous. A university degree doesn't keep one from being stupid. The criteria to be used to determine stupidity is more involved than looking at the name of the university on the sheepskin. A good rule of thumb, is that when the mouth is open and ignorant statements are being emitted, a discerning listener, regardless of his university credentials, can evaluate and analyze those comments against an objective standard to determine the level and extent of that stupidity.
Continued . . . That action, is directly opposite the process that is so prevalent among the majority of today's university graduates. Their process begins with how they feel about the person that is talking. Take Bill Maher for example. If they start from the assumption that a) they think he's funny, b) they presume he's intelligent, and c) they vote as he does, then regardless of what comes out of his mouth, they will contend that what he says is not only intelligent, but unassailably correct, and that whoever may hold a contrary opinion must by definition, be stupid. I realize this sounds unbelievable, but pay attention and you'll see that this is the typical modus operandi of the tools that pass for intellectual liberals.
I stopped watching this gap-toothed goof a year ago. The double standard in the presidential election was the last straw. But he is pretty self-depricating and was rather tough on Clinton (Bubba) over the years.
Remeber this one. For Valentine's Day, Bill had a romantic candlelight dinner in the city, and after, he went home to Hillary. rim shot!!!
more like 25,with Belzer crowd,pretty dark.
Another shameless sycophant. What an embarrassment Letterman has become.
Nice try. So, Maher is bright and Bush is dumb. Your proof is what?
The difference between dumb and stupid is that Dumb really doesn't know any better, and Stupid chooses not to. To achieve really champion levels of stupidity can require quite an expenditure of intelligence and energy. Carter is a classic example of a very smart, very stupid individual. Obama is on course to surpass him in his first100 days.
Thomas Sowell describes the policy as "race-norming", and argues convincingly that it sets up countless intelligent black students for academic failure.
By ignoring objective criteria such as SAT scores and substituting subjective scoring, the process places black students into academic populations 200 points or more ahead of them on the SAT, thus starting them at a handicap from the start. Many of them fail, or take refuge in Black Studies programs which don't actually qualify them for doing anything productive.
Color as it is processed is not the entire mix of the spectrum. Our retina have three types of nerve cells that respond to a narrow range of light. These three ranges are what we call the primary colors Red, Yellow Blue. The other colors are combinations of light that triggers each of these sensors. Humans and other primates are unique among mammals in that we have three cones that see colors. Most mamals only have two as it is an advantange in seeing in darkness. Birds have four primary colors that they see and thus see a whole other spectrum of light. They evolved from dinosaurs who did not have to hide underground.
When we see something as black it is because it reflects none of the light it receives. When we see somehting as white it is because it absorbs none of the light and reflects it back.
Have you been getting your news from Dan Rather again.
It's sad when a clown gets old. It's really pathetic when a clown gets old and mean.
The problem with AA is the percentanges game. Blacks are 10% of the population but 40% of the welfare recipients. Thus you have fewer that get educated becasue of the economic circumstances. Schools want 10% black students but only from 6% apply. Therefore standards for entry are lowered at all levels of academic excellence from the merely good schools to the outstanding schools. The schools howerver grade on a curve.
They are not honest with AA prospects. They tell them they are the same as everyone else because they are too cowardly to admit to the practice. This is unfortunate because the students could make up for it with hard work. Explaining the truth would allow them to make the choice they feel is best in colleges or to work harder and before school starts.
There is in my mind a simple solution to this dillema. Start grading the "diversity" of schools not on the number of minorities admitted but rather the number that make it to graduation. This of course would mean that the school would have to be watched to ensure they are fairly grading. Just passing someone along hurts the student given the pass in the end.
Just be glad it wasn't a Ford Pinto HUH!
very well put!
The fact that you assume is that "Bush" a Harvard graduate is not really worthy of the title because it must have been "Daddy's" money that got him in. Quite frankly one does not have to drag Bush down to defend Maher although I don't find Maher to be very intelligent based on what comes out of his mouth. But then again I don't listen to him much.
Quite frankly I myself have had it with Bush bashing because it is never based on truth but outright lies. No WMD's what's that every 500 th shell has Sarin gas. No Al Qaeda connection. What is Azhawi doing with two of the hijackers in an airport at Kuala Lampur. Why did the Iraqi regime pressure Jordan to release him from arrest. If the war was pointless exactly when and how were the flyover bombings and cruise missiling of hospitals hiding radar going to stop. I have been fed so much BS by these liberals that I would like to not have to hear their nonsense here. I don't care what they think of Bush and precios few other topics to boot. So you know what all Bush Bashers get automatic -1 if I see it. Cause I am done with them.
Are you comparing Letterman to a Beetle in a box. Not that I have anything against that.
So if Dave's left leg twitches all through the show does that mean "Rain"
Forgive me my mistake…..
I have jsut been informed that the twitching left leg is a Chris Mathews thing.
I apologize.
Dave is so yesterday. Back to watching FNC
"GET YOUR OWN GD SHOWS THEN….
Or shut up! You whiny little tweens" —– There you've been shown.
Yes you are also so right. What doh parties have to doh with Politics. Next you try tell people pair off intoh factions taht tehy refer to as Political Parties. How Droll!!!!!
Grego jug nagga kug osoo gosa dingo loosa yak yak tak!!!
Ha I just burned you in Hutteese!!
Yes it does!!
Yes it does….
Glak tak oogo booga sug nogga rarotaka boon!
Ha the Hutts are howlin on that one!
Raga nag tago luda snark, ogowa gug bug sug foopa.!
Baggo tu na wa tibbie Jaaba tu Hutt. tooga lama gorto snark yum.
The Coulter Cornell. Not that you care, since you were just being snarky.
Wonder if this outrageous comment of mine will be censored like the last one.
You have nothing to apologize for. Letterman is a partisan douchebag. He refuses to take off his kneepads from Obama's visit.
Yeah! I feel the same way about Palin bashers too. It's always the same kind of hateful spewing that gets directed her way– the same kind that plagued Bush. Heaven forbid the Libs should actually talk about politics instead of making up stuff or going for the lowest kind of personal attacks.
Law school papers are graded blind, a.k.a. with the teacher not knowing the identity of the student whose paper they're grading. So Obama's academic success at Harvard was not due to any kind of Affirmative Action. (His being made head of the Law Review may be another matter.)
It's clear from the way Obama speaks and writes that he is highly intelligent. Anyone denying this is being intentionally obtuse or dishonest.
The only thing that's clear to me is that he reads off of a teleprompter very well.
Hi Individualist, did you notice that my comment in response to palomino and TSS1 was censored, as was your response to me. Don't you just love free speech and honest debate at Big Hollywood?
Anyway, since I received your comment anyway via IntenseDebate, I'll briefly respond to it: I was never on board with Bush-bashing and generally supported the President. I also think it's clear that Bush is of above-average intelligence. However, it's also clear that he was not a great student and his family connections helped to get him into the best schools.
Maher I find alternately insufferable and entertaining. I don't agree with many of the things he says, but from the articulate way he says them, it's clear that he is also intelligent.
Letterman hasn't been truly funny since the mid-90s. The last time I bothered to watch, he was just a bitter old liberal. Hey Dave, Barry won. Now, shut up and stop harrassing GWB. Better yet, get off the air and let us remember you when you weren't a partisan hack.
Gosh… you're comments were censored, on a private-property website! The Horror!! Obviously a violation of your First Amendment rights. Call the cops! Get a lawyer!
Or, maybe you could get the legislature to pass some piece of law that REQUIRES BigHollywood to post 50% troll content.
Google it and you'll see it's well documented. He evidently didn't want acceptance into the school to be tarnished by the acknowledgment that he was accepted because of his race.
And as another commenter pointed out, students at Harvard Law School don't put their names on their work, so TAs and professors can't grade people unfairly or based on personal bias. Obama still graduated Magna Cum Laude.
Yes I did, and you're moving the goalposts: you insinuated that Obama's successes are due to affirmative action. His academic successes are totally, 100% legitimate; affirmative action won't cause somebody to graduate magna cum laude. Obama didn't graduate with mediocre grades, like Kerry, Bush, or Gore; he graduated with stellar performance, like Jindal and (I believe) Romney.
That has nothing to do with affirmative action.
First, it's true that he speaks off of a teleprompter for speeches. So does every president. Obama also writes many of his own speeches, which few presidents do. And it's not surprising that teleprompter problems throw people off. As much as I disagree with him, Bill O'Reilly is a gifted television host, but you can find Youtube clips of O'Reilly melting down when his teleprompter breaks.
Second, although we don't have his actual grades, we know that he graduated from Harvard Law School magna cum laude. That tells us that he was in the top 10% of his class.
Sir, you need to get XM/Sirius radio. I discovered Mr. Slagle on their several comedy channels and he instantly became one of my favorites. His routine about vegetarian hypocrisy with their cats' eating habits has caused coffee to spew across the inside of the windshield on a number of occasions.
Mr. Slagle is a hilarious observationalist comedian … it just hurts his career a bit, I'm sure, that most of his observations are at the expense of the PC crowd and other leftist sacred cows.
Tim, keep it up … and I'll keep cleaning the inside of my windshield.
It is NOT well documented. Neither the president nor his his staff have released any of his transcripts or his applications for addmission. If you would like to provide a link or a source for your assertion, then I would be more than happy to look at it and agree with you.
Also, most law schools do blind grading, that is standard practice *for graded exams*. That doesn't have anything to do with his qualifications to GET INTO the institution. Also, because we don't have his transcripts, we don't know which courses he took and whether they were graded via tests, performance, papers or another way. Heck, I actually had a law schoool course where attendance was counted.
And before you throw the racist card at me or my brethern again, I want to say this very clear—We have not seen his grades or his admissions materials, so we cannot deduce why he got into any of the institutions…for all we know HLS could have looked very highly on all that community service he was engaged in.
Yes, and Harvard's Most Famous Graduate, ever, John Fitzgerald Kennedy!
His son went where……Brown. Why was that?
they blew up as much as the F-102A… not quite as quick, service life about the same.
What goalposts? The one where I call you out on your knee-jerk, totally unfounded response? Or where I clarify my original comment because you clearly (and continually) demonstrate that you missed the point entirely? No one said, not once, that Obama didn't earn his grades. The only point anyone made was that he may have benefited from AA during the admission process. And for your "google it" response to those who don't agree with you, YOU google it since it's your argument and provide the links to back it up. I haven't been able to find one single source to back up your argument that Obama didn't benefit from AA. In fact, the favorite interview (w/ Stephanopoulos) Libs point to and say see! Obama doesn't support AA actually has a quote in which Obama says he's in FAVOR of AA if it used in the "right" way. (Continued…)
What goalposts? The one where I call you out on your knee-jerk, totally unfounded response? Or where I clarify my original comment because you clearly (and continually) demonstrate that you missed the point entirely? No one said, not once, that Obama didn't earn his grades. The only point anyone made was that he may have benefited from AA during the admission process. And for your "google it" response to those who don't agree with you, YOU google it since it's your argument and provide the links to back it up. I haven't been able to find one single source to back up your argument that Obama didn't benefit from AA. In fact, the favorite interview (w/ Stephanopoulos) Libs point to and say see! Obama doesn't support AA actually has a quote in which Obama says he's in FAVOR of AA if it used in the "right" way. (Continued…)
Also The New York Times has this quote–Mr. Obama said he had undoubtedly benefited from affirmative action” in his own academic career, and he praised the intellectual heft and wide-ranging views of his diverse staff"“The success of the program speaks for itself,” he said of the law review’s affirmative action policy in a letter published in the school’s student newspaper.– in an article on the subject. Do some research of your own before you make an assertion that Obama's own words proved is false.
No Letterman is the nerd who keeps telling stupid jokes till you have to threaten him with bodily violence unless he shuts up.
So…I decided to do some research….Turns out President Obama was a legacy too!!!! His father Obama Sr. received a Masters degree (MA) in economics from Harvard in 1965.
How do you like that? (not even an April Fool's joke!!!)
uhhhh, so that's what allowed him to get better grades than kerry and graduate? his daddy? oh ok…..
Maher's a steaming pile of excrement.
Thanks Gary, I am going to check them out.
Nobody gets into the Harvard MBA program as a legacy. He got into Yale as a legacy, but he earned his way into Harvard.
Everything about this fraud is disrespectful.
Actually the other day he wrote "Moran", I thought you were referring to that with Bugs Bunny – LOL
As BDS continues.
Back in the early 80's he was cutting edge and new. Even Johnny one night said "Oh hell why don't we just say goodnight and go straight to Letterman" That is paraphrasing but you get the idea. I think I got tired of him in the early 90's and have never gone back.
Let him rave on so men will know him mad.
Maybe he needs some prison tatts like Garafalo
If Slagle's such a nobody why bother posting replies to his stories?
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