Everybody Lay off Janeane!
by Tom ShillueI like her. And yes, she is funny. If you’ve only seen her on political talk shows, you’re going to have to take my word for it.
I did a show with her in NYC the other night, and she was delightful. A small room in the West Village, packed with people, everyone laughing. She’s a comedian, and a good one. I prefer her more personal material to the political stuff, but that’s the way I feel about most comedians. After the show we spoke, and at one point I reminded her that I’m kind of right-wing. “That’s you’re problem,” she said, and then we got back to the friendly talk. We went on to have a great conversation and share some laughs. On a personal level, I always have a good time with her, and you would too. Believe me.
Here’s my point: I sense a little misplaced anger over her comments about the tea parties. It strikes me as a Captain Renault-like expression of shock. In order to take great offense at what she said we have to ignore the fact that the very same thing is said, in more subtle ways, every day. The left never stops accusing the right of racism.
Also, she is not a politician–she is asked to give her opinion on TV because she is blunt and opinionated. Speaking tactfully is not something we should expect of demand from entertainers–in fact, we should encourage just the opposite. I for one can appreciate a good right-wing nut job comedian, who crosses boundaries and says things that other people are thinking, but does it in a way that would be unacceptable for a politician. That is why it is shocking, and that is why it is fun. Maybe not funny, but fun–to the right wingers in the back of the room who are glad that somebody is saying the things that they wish they could say.
Her message was not to people on the right–it was to her fellow lefties. She was saying “Stop beating around the bush here–let’s call this what it is.” So that is what she thinks. Glad to hear it. I am always glad to hear an unfiltered position.
Here’s the thing; everything Janeane said is what people on the left already think. They have been saying it right to your face, in creative ways, for years. Remember when the candidate Obama repeatedly spoke about his being a long shot for the election because “he has a funny name” or because he “doesn’t look like those other presidents on our money,” what do you think he was saying? He was saying that a large portion of our country is racist. He was talking about you. He was trying to shut his critics up even before they started. And it worked. Almost no one called him on it.
So don’t get upset when someone says it out loud. You should be glad someone finally said it-now you can answer the charge. You don’t want to have to answer the charge? Why not? It’s out there.
Conservatives will even buy into this. They will say, “Well, I know that there is still a lot of racism out there, but…”
That’s the problem. People are unwilling to declare that it’s over. It’s done. The number of Americans who believe one race is inferior to another is so small that they are not worth discussing. They are silly people. And they have no power.
I like Morgan Freeman’s position. On “60 Minutes” a few years ago, he declared Black History Month “ridiculous,” prompting this question:
Mike Wallace: But how are we going to get rid of racism?
Morgan Freeman: Stop talking about it.
I like that. Let’s just stop talking about it. But in order to stop talking about it we are going to have to talk about it for a little while. To declare that it is over. It has gone away.
Oh, I know what my friends on Big Hollywood will say. “Racism is alive and well–on the left!” Yes, but even that is fake racism. There is an obsession with race, certainly, but only so it can be used as a weapon to intimidate. It’s a way to stop debate even before it begins. (If you watched, they tried it with Andrew Breitbart on HBO’s Real Time. He wouldn’t let it go. He essentially said “Let’s do this–let’s put it out on the table.” Things got electric, for a couple of minutes. Then Bill Maher changed the subject.)
A lot of people agree with Janeane Garofalo. Even people who are right of center- which is why so many mainstream Republicans politicians want nothing to do with those tea party folks–they’d rather keep them at arms length. We should keep our ears open when provocateurs are being provocative. Don’t write them off as haters–they are starting a valuable discussion.
Let’s get it out in the open. Everyone who thinks being against taxes is racist, raise your hands. We won’t shout you down. We would love to have that argument in public once and for all. Right?
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She is a hate-spewing bigot. Why defend her? To hell with her.
You can have your opinion. So can she. But what strikes me is that she is comfortable shoveling her manure in the presence of fellow travelers. But has nothing to say when in the presence of a conservative? Telling.
Is she saying what people think, or is she giving people permission to think that way? I would be willing to cut her some slack if her comments were made as part of a comedy routine – there's an understaning and expectation that comedians will say extreme things in order to make a point – but she was spewing her filth as straight-out fact. I have to hold her responsible for her words.
Err you do realize our dislike of Garofolo comes from 8 years of listening to her spew this garbage, not just one stint on Olberman ratings machine. Not to mention the fact that she said its a "fact" that I'm racist, as I attended a tea party demonstration. I don't give a flying crap if she's a big fluffy bunny in person- in hollywood, you are how you are perceived
You're defending the indefensible, poorly. I assume this is a desperate attempt to whip up some hits based on controversy. Your master plan suckered me in.
I don't find being insulted particularly funny. In fact, that's oftentimes enough to get me swinging.
Posts about Janeane are funnier than Janeane! Also, the only thing funny about her is the idiotic way she spells her name. Of course her middle name is even funnier: Hemorrhoid
It's true. Look it up.
http://lonewolfarcher.blogspot.com
i like how janeane is "blunt and opinionated" yet her conservative counterpart would be a "right-wing nut job comedian"
At some point in life people have to have the courage to standup for what they believe in and they also have to have the courage to speak out against what they know is wrong. To excuse Ms Garofalo's rants as merely being her view as a comedian seems to me to be no more than moral relativism run amok. I doubt many would say, "Hey that Adolph guy paints a pretty good postcard, let's cut him some slack on his views!" and therefore, I do not think it is too far misplaced to speak out against the Garofalos of this world. Words do have meaning and if she is free to speak her mind then others are free to speak theirs.
I'm willing to overlook some hatred and bigotry from entertainers because they are good enough to wash away the memories of their hate. Believe it or not Alec Baldwin is one of them (Tina Fey used to be one, but lately I'm having a harder time).
But Ms. Garofalo isn't one of them. Her hatred and bigotry comes on strong and the stench stays with you for days … I can't even look at that still shot of her without feeling the hate from her coming through loud and clear.
Hell, I hear Hitler threw wonderful dinner parties.
You can defend her if you want … but don't expect that to catch on here.
The hate's been there from the beginning. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=686POadlcvc
Tom you are not a right-winger. Stop making things up. A right-winger does not run to defend a left-wing conspiracy theorist. This lady is a "special case." Where were you when Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin were the subject of attacks 24/7? Please stop the spin.
Bingo!
I understand the personal situation. I would probably defend her to a degree as well, if I worked with her. But the facts are the facts. And part of the reason we are in this mess (financial, taxed to death, cap N trade) is because we try to be friends with these people. If she can sit there and call me racist, I can choose not to watch her work. Not boycott, but choose not to attend.
Exactly. Moreover, she has never shown a shred of interest in actually discussing racism or "discussing" anything. She is much more interested in hearing herself talk, and talk over anyone with something to say. She shuts out, shuts down, and then never shuts up.
Even Satan can make you like him. That doesn't mean he's still not Satan.
You must like the way her ass looks … or something sexual about her. Otherwise you wouldn't make such a ridculous defense of the defenseless. Hope it's worth it Tom… you sellout. Use protection with this one
Epic fail. Janeane is a jerk, and there's no need to look past that. She's a jerk.
"After the show we spoke, and at one point I reminded her that I’m kind of right-wing. “That’s you’re problem,” she said, and then we got back to the friendly talk."
Wow, she's quite the charmer, isn't she?
So, no, I'm not going to lay off Janeane, and if you think I should? "That's your problem."
Also, you're "kind of right wing"? What kind?
I understand HER "teabagging" skilz ain't all that much, either.
She's scum. And she should be hammered with at least the disadain and arrogance that she uses to hammer us
Janeane is a very funny person and I am sure she is a great conversationalist. No one forces her to go on the "News" shows. She chooses to go on to be controversial. Her views are meant to be demeaning towards those on the right. If you think she should get respected by those she claims are racist then you got a little to "High" of an education.
Actually Garafalo is a self-hating white chick.
There are different kinds of racism and the whole thing is playing out in our own history. It is in fact morphing into something far different than what it originally was. It doesn't go away, it keeps changing. We are now at the point where anyone can call anyone else a racist for any trumped-up reason. But the accused has to be white- that is pretty well established. Blacks get a pass.
But make no mistake more harm is being done to race relations by destroying these words and making them mean something else. White people are now more affected by racism, than blacks because whites are constantly charged with the offense with no evidence. The whole concept is racist. It is racist to charge people to be responsible for others who share their racial characteristics. And what is the worst thing, the most hated, reviled person in the culture today? "Racist" is way high on the list just below "child molester".
It is like being called a witch in the 16th century. Garafalo is a witch. Burn her.
You can put a halo on her, give her a makeover, put her through college, and you're still not going to convince me that she is anything but an obnoxious, hate-spewing, taftooed ignoramus freak who deserves far worse than we've given her.
Everybody Lay off Janeane!
No.
Nice catch!
Does the article sound at all like "she says really horrible, stupid things, and she grossly insults the American people by repeatedly calling them racists, but that doesn't mean she's a bad person?" I thought Pollyanna was a fictional character. The author is more like a schmoo. Anybody here remember schmoos?
"very same thing is said, in more subtle ways, every day. The left never stops accusing the right of racism."
Oh those wacky lefties they say go-se like that all the time, Hahaha, no need to call them on it. Hahahaha
/sarcasm off
The only reason that we have such a catalogue of sensless and catastrophic policies in our society, economy and legal system is because we have slowly legitimized the inane ramblings of people like "Janeane". Notice that there is no such thing as LIBERAL Hate-Speech and there is never a Hate-Crime committed against a WASP.
Words have consequences. Just ask the Dixie Chicks. Celebrotards like "Janeane" can say what they want about concerned middle-American citizens who don't like currrent government policy….she can call them racists, red-necks and teabaggers….and get away with it on the mainstream media. But don't expect us to buy her wares.
Sorry going to have to disagree with this writeup. She said I was a racist because I criticized Obama. Racism of course, being the current Scarlet Letter, "Worst Thing Any Human Being Can Do."
This does not get a pass because she can smile and chit chat with the people she hates.
===Here’s my point: I sense a little misplaced anger over her her comments about the tea parties.===
That's not the first demeaning comment she's made towards Conservatives. She's gutter trash and looks like gutter trash.
Whoopie Goldberg looks thoughtful compared to her.
Chris Crocker looks reasonable compared to you.
Sorry, I have to join in the chorus of people calling BS.
I hate to break it to you, but to Garofalo you're less than human. Even disregarding her daily comments on the matter, her response of "That's your problem" points up the issue. You can imagine how she'd rant if she heard of someone telling you "I'm gay" and you responed "that's your problem" and turned a cold shoulder.
Hate-spewing psychopaths like Garofalo don't add to any discussion. All they do is help us point out how idiotic leftism is, and in order to do that you have to roundly reject the hate they spout whenever they spout it.
And you're wrong on another thing, too: she isn't funny. She got her career by sleeping with Ben Stiller, which is one of the reasons she's so self-hating. She's been doing the same cynical who-cares snark bit for almost two decades and her career has followed the arc you'd expect for someone so limited.
She is as delightful as Carrot Top is edgy. They're both as funny as Tom Ammiano (Shout out to SF!)
And I really liked "a lot of people like her." Well, that settles the issue, or does it? A lot of people liked Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Mussolini and now like Farrakhan. Her appearance on CNN negates any possible claim that she is a "comedian" or is just "saying it to get attention." She is projecting her vile racism on the rest of us, and she wouldn't know the Constitution from toilet paper (if she uses toilet paper). Other than that, she is a great person. And Hitler loved his dog.
Got it. She's "funny" and therefore can spew whatever hate-filled garbage she wants.
The KKK just needs to get a funny-man/woman in their ranks. Then they can have a national TV platform to spew their bigotry without nary a peep from the "moderator". Nice.
Yep. Heh. Schmoo. Rhymes with Shillue.
Can't spell Shillue without shill.
Thanks. I'll be here all week. . .
JG is a hate monger. She was an Air America host. End of story.
Calling people racist because they disagree with Obama's polices is just plain stupid. If she wants to apologize for all the venom she's mindlessly spewed like a poisonous tattooed toad, maybe she can pass for human again. But right now she's an embarrassment to D-Listers everywhere.
It has nothing to do with whether she's funny, or whether you like her. Having declaimed for the right to dissent under George Bush she now publicly slanders — without evidence — those who exercise their right to dissent. She's a monstrous hypocrite, a walking abuse of public discourse. She's also a liar — asserting she avoided Rush Limbaugh on the set of "24" before she even worked on "24." You couldn't find a purer embodiment of the Leftist Id. For all of this, she needs to be rebuked. The only way through the madness the left has led us into is by rising up and taking these people on. Don't lay off. Hit harder.
Oh my God. Middlin' celebrity/actress/comic Garofalo thinks I'm a racist. What'll I do? What'll I do? Must destroy her or……or……..or…….bear the consequences when she shows up on "Dancing With the Stars."
Oops–I added a letter. It's "shmoo." A "schmoo" is a German "shmoo."
"she is asked to give her opinion on TV because she is blunt and opinionated."
She is also ignorant, bitter, and dogmatic to the point of being a rainman parody.
Just being blunt and opinionated- apparently that's a good thing.
Also find it rather odd that a clapped out, poorly aging, would be hipster college dropout from Jersey gets to be the arbiter of what is and is not "straight up" racist.
Maybe it was all the tough civil rights work she did while making "The truth is, I'm a dog" with uma thurman that made her so tuned in to racism and it's pernicious effects.
I'm with most of the commenters on this one, but I admit to liking some of her earlier standup work. She reminds me of so many self-hating white-chicks from college – they can't let their own self-hatred not bleed into everything they feel, and this is a feelings game, not a thinking game. In the past few years, she seems to have grown delusional – the Rush Limbaugh/24 thing is particularly sad – but knocking the way she looks is just silly. I like chicks with tattoos, just not the ones who spew nonsense like hers on a regular basis. There's enough there to make fun of without bringing her personal appearance and name into it.
No…I wouldn't find her pleasant……she stands for much I despise and she would, given a chance do me and mine harm….so no thanks.
I'm sorry. I don't care how "delightful" she is on a one-to-one level. She has made clear what she thinks of conservatives, and it's very ugly stuff. Tom, Stockholm Syndrome is treatable.
Did I read this wrong or do you actually state and believe that being anti-taxation is being racist?
Really……….
Well then, by that definition, I am racist.
Tough.
Wow, that was probably the single most misguided piece that I've read on Big Hollywood. I wonder if the roles were reversed would Ms. Garafalo defend Tom Shillue to her leftist buddies if he said something completely outrageous about Barack Obama?
The problem with kow-towing to the "everything is beautiful in its own way" mindset is that it necessarily rejects Truth in the compromise.
The unforced and ironic incongruencies of pursuing Truth in an imperfect world is what makes us laugh together. Lies are manipulative by their nature. Manipulation for the sake of impugning the integrity of half the nation just fails to make me laugh.
I commend you standing up for your friend, however, racist, elitist and classless comments are not excused by polite social graces.
The absolute MOST that I will agree with you on – is this: At best, Ms. Garofolo helps bring to the forefront (hopefully) that fact that those on the left consistently use a plethora of straw-man, Red Herring arguments to kill all dissenting views.
You can't possibly dislike what somebody is actually DOING, or SAYING… especially if the person you dissent with falls into one of a 'protected' class. You are either a homophobe, a xenophonbe, a racist, a sexist, an islamaphobe, etc. etc. The right already knows they do this – but what it really does, is prove to me this: The left doesn't even entertain thoughts other than their own, because they have already made their mind up that any thought other than a "progressive" one is stupid.
By definition, anybody who has a thought or a belief other than one that falls into "progressive" ideology is therefore also an idiot. Or a xenophobic idiot. Or an Islamaphobic idiot. Or a sexist idiot.
Or, if I may… a racist idiot. Maybe, oh grand intelligent close-minded progressive jerk – I love all people regardless of color – but dislike STUPIDITY? Especially when it presents itself in the form of my President.
You describe her as "blunt and opinionated." I would describe her as deranged and in dire need of a makeover. If she can't take the heat, she should get out of the kitchen.
http://the100mostannoyingthings.blogspot.com/
Yeah, I liked that. "She was addressing her fellow lefties." Well she can address Marx himself for all I care. That comment was directly aimed at me and mine, and since she is certainly no lady, if she did it in my presence she would find her ugly nose rearranged, the way my racist leg was broken in five places when I was in the South fighting for civil rights. How in God's name does the author twist his mind into thinking she was addressing her fellow nutcases only when she called us right-wing racists? I think if someone gelded this guy, he would say in a high-pitched voice "is there anything else you would like to remove, my friend?"
Sorry, a bridge to far for this conservative, Janeane is a nasty hate spewing, America hating twit.
You're right. This guy needs a quick intervention. Maybe take him to Kansas, or Texas for awhile while he clears his head. He could talk to a cowboy instead of a cow.
good luck with that
I hope she gets on the bad side of Jack Bauer.
A comic says funny things. A comedian says things funny. Garafalo does neither. I've seen her schtick from the old VH-1 "Stand Up Spotlight" roughly 1991. She's a slovenly little slattern woman who started out as some uber-feminist, trying to get laughs via cynicism. The easy way out. Some idiot in the late 90's asked her opinion of a cultural/political issue and this little dog of war was let slip. O'Reilly takes a major part of the blame here by having her on and his imprimatur gave her more credibilty than is due. The Left can believe anything they want about Conservatives and when they spew bile, lies and venom I will call them on it every time.
Garafalo gets no pass. She thinks she's some sort of intellectual with no ties to any sort of actual knowledge of life beyong the leftard circles she runs in. The author should take this article, put it in a Hallmark card and give it to Garafalo next time they meet. Nobody's buying what you're selling Mr. Shillue.
Gee, I don't think any of us realized Obama was inferring we were racist until you so brilliantly explained it to us! If Janeane can't take it, she shouldn't dish it out. I think conservatives have had enough and are fighting back through public forums that have previously been unavailable to us. Seriously, you can't believe we didn't know a lot of people share Janeane's opinion? Guess what – a lot of people don't share her hateful opinion, therefore, it's time we start defending ourselves forcefully to engage in Janeane's "valuable discussion". If Janeane wants to attempt to be a comedian there are tasteless people to support her career. If Janeane wants to trash her fellow Americans' intelligence, education, tolerance, charity, values, etc, we will join her very "valuable discussion".
You know. I reread the article and I have to admit it changed my mind. If Ms. Garafolo was on fire I would indeed put her out; with golf shoes ………and a pick axe. To be absolutely sure she was out, I would use a couple bricks of C4.
There. That's change I can believe in.
And Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm sounds tough compared to this guy.
Some comments are acceptable on a stage or on HBO when performing comedy. But when making those same comments on a news show, which gives her an air of legitimacy, then she leaves herself open to criticism, and rightfully so. Ann Coulter doesn't get a pass, why should Janeane Garofalo? Here's the thing, if you don't want to be criticized then don't say or write anything. If you go ahead and do it anyway, then don't complain when others voice their opposition.
Some comments are acceptable on a stage or on HBO when performing comedy. But when making those same comments on a news show, which gives her an air of legitimacy, then she leaves herself open to criticism, and rightfully so. Ann Coulter doesn't get a pass, why should Janeane Garofalo? Here's the thing, if you don't want to be criticized then don't say or write anything. If you go ahead and do it anyway, then don't complain when others voice their opposition.
Throw the bigot under a bus………………………………………..and Tom Shillue right behind her.
Thanks, as if I wasn't already ticked off. Tom Ammiano is about as funny as colon cancer. But I suspect you already knew that.
Tom, I'm not breaking any new ground here, but I have to strongly disagree with you.
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First, I liked JG when she was starting out. She was cute and funny. I still like her in Mystery Men. Like many other performers, however, once she started speaking out in hateful ways on political issues I could no longer appreciate her entertainment value (though I still like Mystery Men, but that's my problem). If you follow BH you know that lots of folks here have had to write off certain entertainers. Clooney probably being first among them. Most have done so reluctantly, but the persistent vitriol coming from these folks just gets to be too much.
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Second, it's not just a matter of this being her mode of entertainment. It's not as if she only does this while performing. I suppose you could say that she always "on," but I don't buy that. If it were just a matter of this being her performance I could say fine and ignore it, but it's much more than that. It's personal. She is saying hateful things about me and millions of others just because we disagree with her. That's her right, but it's my right to not support her in that, or any other, endeavor.
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Third, even if she is only saying things that other people is already thinking that doesn't mean it's okay for her to say them. If it's okay for JG to spew such bile, how long before it's okay for someone to act on such rantings, either through violence or official actions such as speech codes? We don't have thought control in this country and we do have a First Amendment to protect speech. I'm not advocating that JG should be censored in any official way, but I'm certainly not going to support her efforts, and, like any other product I find distasteful, I will recommend others avoid her as well.
Yeah, I to have visions of Jack making her talk.
—right now she's an embarrassment to D-Listers everywhere—
How did she climb back up that high, James?
Nice try, Pinga. So that means you think that Rush Limbaugh should be attacked because he is important? But we are overreacting to the biker bitch?
This was sarcasm, right? Or maybe "sarchasm" is more accurate.
And Carrot Top is about as funny as Tom Ammiano talking about colon cancer.
Hey, don't insult schmoos? My cat's name is Schmoo. Yes I know what schmoos are, but only because I saw one on a MASH episode. They look like casper the friendly ghost don't they?
all seriousness aside, Poisonous Tattooed Toad is a great name for a band.
Ok Seriousness back on.
I can't even look at Whoopie Goldberg since Ted Danson's comments about . . . uhm. . . you know.
Matt
I have no master plan! I actually thought the comments would be about 50-50 in terms of support/disagreement. I was a little off.
Why do we even care what she says? Why does it matter any more than the 600,000 or so other Americans who stood up at the Tea Parties to express their own views? She should stick to comedy for those who like her. She should not insult those who she clearly doesn't understand, and hasn't even attempted to listen to them. The real question here is why MSNBC would even put something like this on the air. In any case, they don't matter either. Americans have the power to talk to each other, and organize to bring about the changes in which they believe. The liberals did it last year. Now it's our turn. There's no reason to be insulting about it on either side.
OK, very reasonable. But I bet that if you ever ran for office in school you voted for the other guy because it only seemed fair. You do not realize that he did not do the same thing for you. The trash that this Garafolo creep is saying deserves a loud right back at you.
Janeane, as wrong as she is, has no problem finding a venue to rattle off her thoughts. If Bill Maher or Keith Olbermann invite her on their shows? Fine. However, not many of us have the same luxury of media to give our two cents…except for places such as Big Hollywood.
I wish no ill will towards Janeane and she should say what she feels, but freedom of speech is a two-way street. If people don't like what she says, they don't have to listen…or they, too, have the right to speak their minds. To back off on our comments is contrary to the spirit of Big Hollywood, as that very attitude is the reason so many entertainers such as Janeane dominate the entertainment biz and why so few outspoken conservatives are to be found.
wait a minute- I said I LIKE right-wing nut jobs. And the term itself is a joke. It is what many conservatives, including Joel Surnow, refer to themselves. A term of endearment.
Me too. She and I are done professionally. . . Christian Bale style.
I already caught it. I have to go, the police are at the door. Somebody in the building heard someone shouting "Ammiano!, Ammiano"" followed by the sound of several gunshots. What do they mean when they say "come out, with your hands up?"
I am a right winger but all my friends are lefties. I like most of them too–most of them are nicer than you think. But I also love Ann and Michelle. I wish they were my friends.
So you're on the fence on this one?
More technical legalese to describe your love for Janeane, funny! You left out “skank ho” just helping.
I'm trying to follow your line of thought here… but I can't see what you mean. Keep in mind, I'm probably in the lower percentile of intelligence for most people commenting on here.
(Oh, and hell no… I wouldn't vote for somebody else in an election other than myself. I was VP in Jr. High, and I unashamedly voted for myself.)
Yep. And they're supposed to be delicious. They taste like anything you want them to taste like.
Yes. I used gentle language because I didn't want to tip my hand.
She's not funny… I have seen just about everything she's been in plus her "routines"…
There is a difference between being "funny" and using sarcastic references to GenX pop-culture icons non-stop, mixed in with the occasional insult towards groups she doesn't like, then a self-deprecation to make that all seem justified…
Perhaps she is funny if you're stoned all the time… I recall being stoned and laughing at Mayor McCheese for two hours once… So that I'll grant you…
She is perhaps "Carlos Mencia-Funny"…
But hate is never funny….Except to the simple and to others who also hate… She is a bigot, a hate monger and the epitome of the pious gits that were considered "funny" in other dark periods of human history…
here here. A +1 on all three for me.
Duly noted, my friend. Editor: Kindly add "skank ho" to my description of the lovely Ms. Garafolo.
Okay, I have read what you have to say, Mr. Shillue. No offense, but maybe she should be the one writing this article if she feels that she has been wronged or misinterpreted in some way. She did not appear on Olberman's show as a "comedian". She appeared as a political pundit from Air America. She can say anything she wants, but I will say anything I want too! If she can't take it, then she should keep her mouth shut!!
I agree. My point is that the real problem is the unspoken mass of people on the left who think all right wingers are racist, not people like Janeane who always speak their mind, and loudly, and often crassly. I say have the argument out in the open.
Subtlety, thy name is LawhawkSF.
Cats or Schmoos? And where might one procure such a creature?
They want you to show them a firearm (just wave it around), and then discharge it over their heads. Just standard police stuff, no big deal.
I am a white, native Californian female, 48 and have never "got" racism. My dad grew up in the South, with servants, moved here in high school and had a hard time adjusting to how life in CA was. There was not much going on. Ok, I grew-up and live in San Diego, but still, I never saw a lot of "hate". For this to still be on the table 30 years after I graduated in ridiculous. I believe, the reason this will NEVER go away is then the blacks/.African-Americans will no longer have an excuse for their lack of achievement as a communtiy or culture. The entitlements would then dry-up. They would then be just like the rest of us, trying to make a living, paying our taxes.
I do have Stockholm Syndrome! I admit it! I live in Manhattan and work with only show biz people. But most of them are good hearted folk, what can I say. I like them.
Here's the thing: the real problem is the people who think you are racist rednecks but are unwilling to say it. I say lets have the argument out in the open.
I remember the schmoo. But unlike this guy, the schmoo wasn't trying to convince itself and others that it wasn't something other than what it was. Man, I miss those days.
For someone who is as intelligent and funny as you ascribe, why does she have only two things to say about everything political? Conservatives are racist. Conservatives are brain damaged.
I get sharper commentary from glue sniffers at the DailyKos.
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I have plenty of liberal friends. Some really disliked Bush. Others think socialism is a good thing. But none of them ever called me what that pig called us, and they all know where I was in 1964. Some lowlife skank calling me a racist is going to send up angry red flags. She is not a liberal. She is a filthy-mouthed guttersnipe card-carrying member of the extreme loony left.
Both. But shmoos have more meat. And I think Al Capp took the secret to his grave. You can get cats anywhere.
Regardless. I do have to give you kudos sir. However, I would find this behavior from a conservative to be far more objectionable. But I do tend to hold my side to a higher standard. DUTY, HONOR,INTEGRITY.
SUA SPONTE
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