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Conservatives often talk about what they don’t like about Hollywood. That’s okay, but it’s not productive. Maybe it’s time we talked about what we do like? More to the point, let’s point out when Hollywood has gotten it right. And that brings me to the...






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I want to contribute to Defense Fund for Hannah and O'Keefe. Please post info. Can't wait for Discovery.
As William Holden might say…..Me too.
As William Holden might say….."Me too".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aqMTD5UFmU
Click on the 'more info' link on the side to get a transcript of what the kids are chanting. It says this was filmed in June 2009. I can't believe that at least some parents did not cause an uproar.
Ditto on the James and Hannah defense fund.
When I was young I fell asleep on the beach, when I woke up I was wearing a William Holden mask, and wearing a gold thong and a smelly unshaved Libtard was rubbing my pinky finger and sniffing my toes. Lib/Democrats hate their Mothers. and most of them have flunked history classes.
Vote Republican in 2010.
In the past, any other foreign leader who gave the UN speech that Obama gave, the US delegation would have walked out.
In the past, any other foreign leader who gave the UN speech that Obama gave, the US delegation would have walked out. When Ahmadinejad spoke, the Canadians walked out before the US did.
In the past, any other foreign leader who gave the UN speech that Obama gave, the US delegation would have walked out. When Ahmadinejad spoke, the Canadians walked out before the US did. It's not like what he was going to say was a big secret.
Obama is extremely dangerous and has hijacked our country!! Why is there no talk of impeachment?? Someone in the know on this subject please respond!!!
Here is a video being shown to kids across the nation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLBE5QAYXp8
There is an obvious lie at the beginning. She says we have less than 4% of the original forest. What she doesn't state is that we have more trees than we had when we became a nation. Basically the idea is that nature doesn't replace the trees we keep on cutting down. That is an OUTRIGHT LIE. A study was done after a volcano in Washington destroyed the forest around it. Part of it was allowed to grow back naturally( I E no human help). The rest was carefully nurtured back to it's former lushness. Any bets as to which one made it back faster?
This is being given to kids who don't know any better and don't have the skills or the knowledge to figure out that this video is a deliberate indoctrination tape.
Holden was great in "SOB," a wonderfully wicked satire about Hollywood's many pathologies. He, Robert Webber, and Robert Preston were a laugh-a-minute in that film. (Thank-you Blake Edwards.) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083015/
"SOB" is a must for anyone who would like to be hugely entertained by a stunning cast ripping Hollywood's fickleness and fecklessness to shreds. In addition to "Serial," it is one of my favorites and I let them run on the old DVD player whenever I need a good hoot and snort about California's and Hollywood's lunacies and neuroses.
Holden was in some great movies: Sunset Boulevard, Bridge Over the River Kwai, and Bridge at Toko Ry(spelling?) come to mind. Holden was Reagan's best man as a sidelight on sport so to speak.
I saw that and it turned my stomach. John Stossel covered this years ago. He spoke with an environmentalist whacko about "deforestation" and the whacko said that we're losing trees so fast we can't replace them. So Stossel showed him the real numbers and we have MORE trees than what the whacko was saying. The whacko then said no I meant old growth trees. Stossel asked what's the difference?
the repsonse was a rambling eco-nut rant that showed these liars for what they are…..
William Holden was one of those actors that could do it all. From comedy to action and everything in between. The Wild Bunch is still one of my favorite movies….
Speaking of celebrities: Celebrities Required to Release New Version of Their ObamaCare PSA Under Democrat-Supported "Fairness Doctrine" http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/09/celebrities-r...
I suppose the 4% the person is referring to is Old Growth trees.
A government-supported artist is an incompetent whore!”
-Robert Heinlein
Because he has committed no impeachable offense.
The majority of the people elected him. We are stuck with him until he is voted out of office or term limited out of office.
Americans are childlike in their trust. They think because America has always been free, it must, therefore, always be free. Obama is quietly showing us that bit by bit, step by step, our liberties are not the God granted liberties we thought we had, but rather whatever the government (if it's powerful enough) says it is. So now are banks, car industries are nationalized — soon will be our health care. We've ditched our old allies (Britain, Israel) and are sucking up to old enemies (Russia, North Korea) while appeasing new enemies (Iran, Venezuela). Our proud black president bows to a Saudi prince while letting his linebacker of a wife paw the British queen. If I were writing this, I'd be accused of plagarizing Lewis Carrol.
"Stossel asked what's the difference?"
If I know my fairytales, Old Growth trees are preferable because they have long beards and give you wise advice.
SOB, is that the one where we see Julie Andrews' boobies?
Stalag 17. That film was the first and last word on William Holden for me.
*MissQuinn*
"The Bridge on the River Kwai" is my all-time favorite movie. As a kid, I used to be put off Holden's performance, thinking he was phoning it in, and wishing it had been played by someone I liked more, like Chuck Heston (who could have done the same cynic he did in "Planet of the Apes"). But I've come to enjoy Bill. He's funny and manly and handsome and personable.
You owe me a coffee for that…..LOL
Abuse of power? Violation of public trust? Treason? Subverting the Constitution? Don't ANY of these describe his actions of the last few days? This man is NOT an American!!
it could use subtitles, but i get the gist- and a little nausea, too.
for a transcript and more info:
http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/articl...
lovely. just f___ing lovely…
Well I'd like him out in any form or fashion myself but it's like tiger said, he really hasn't done anything impeachable, yet.
I posted this link the other day but I wanted to make sure more have seen it so here it is again.
http://www.boomfox.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=3...
Well I'd like him out in any form or fashion myself but it's like tiger said, he really hasn't done anything impeachable, yet.
I posted this link the other day but I wanted to make sure more have seen it so here it is again.
http://www.boomfox.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=3...
All of the things you mention, he has done, but those are subjective not objective accusations. Do you think the House Socialists (former Democratswould bring charges against him? Or that the Socialists in the Senate would try him? Or that the SCOTUS would let it stand? By the time the propaganda media got through with those who favored Impeachment, they'd be in prison themselves. Toqueville warned us that our country could not be conquered from without; we're just waking up to the fact that our country can be, and is being, conquered from within. Kruschev warned Kennedy "we will bury you".
Maybe he didnt mean the USSR would defeat the USA but rather that those who wielded the shovels when those born in the 30's and 40's died would be communists.
con'd
When I told a liberal that the following video was frightening, all he could say was that is was just youths who are expressing their gratefulness towards OBAMA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bayNhJayn_U
He didn't understand how Hitler Youth was formed.
So far as Obama being "American", he doesn't claim to be. He claims to be African-American with the African coming first. I believe a reading of his book "Dreams of my Father" clearly delineate where his loyalties lie. His wife, African-American though born here, wasn't proud of her country until we nominated an African-American to the presidency. That should tell us all something.
We the people are that old joke (the wife catching her husband in bed with another man), "who are you gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes?" He told us who he is, Rev. Wrigtht told us who he is, Michelle Obama told us who he is, Louis Farrakahn told us who he is and we chose to believe him, not our lying ears.
I second it, have BH set it up so we know its legit and not ACORN trying to steal money.
Charles Johnson over at Littlegreenfootballs.com said it looked like about 3/4 of the delegations walked out.
Oh he's done plenty of things that are impeachable, if the federal government actually followed the constitution. Of course, so did the last 10 presidents, and so does Congress on a hourly basis.
How ever the political class have come to a sort of 'gentleman's agreement' in which they all do it, and none of them point it out.
Good one!
I'll have to consult my dinning room table next time the wife and I have a fight.
Isn't that Victor/Victoria? Great movie. Especially Robert Preston.
No, SOB is where Julie Andrews showed off her boobies.
Reminds me of cultists. More than a little bit creepy.
CA-NA-DA! CA-NA-DA! CA-NA-DA!
How did we ever go from Bill Holden to Ben Affleck? Masculinity to Pansy-inity.
Now THAT I do agree with Ed. "You ignore my transgressions and I'll ignore yours" type of deal.
lol..Really!
Sigh! William Holden! Love him! Excellent actor, ruggedly handsome & I loved his speaking voice! I ask this a lot on these threads, but why aren't there actors like him anymore? Why are we stuck with mostly whiny girlie men like Brad Pitt, George Clooney, etc.? It's sad.
I agree with the poster who said that Holden could do it all: drama, western, comedy (Holden's episode of "I Love Lucy" is my favorite), action/adventure – he was versatile.
Holden factoid: he was best man at Ronald Reagan's wedding to Nancy Davis.
Oh boy, here's a doozy of a story for you.
"With former Obama green jobs czar Van Jones gone, along with his views about whites directing poisons to minorities, focus is now shifting to race-based views of "diversity czar" Mark Lloyd, who has suggested "white people" step down from positions of power to allow "more people of color, gays" and "other people" to take those positions. "
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=110775
Holden is the one actor I could forgive his boorish behaviour off the screen as i enjoyed his
behaviour on the screen. I have a "sickness" in that if I don't like the person in real life I can't like the person in reel life. But Holden for some reason would not fall into that group with me tho it was disappointing when
stories about him off the screen would slip out.
Just a comment on the recent horrible floods in Georgia: It's George Bush's fault.( I wanted to get ahead of the Lefties on that story). Recently the one year anniversary of the hurricane that hit Galveston was observed.No bitching reported.No movie stars turned out to nail some boards together.What happened to all those people?Did they just stand up on their own two feet and solve their own problems?I'd like to hear more about people like that..
Great Actor – my favorites are Stalag 17, Network (boy is Howard Beale relevant during these times) and SOB, although Richard Mulligan stole the show.
Occasionally it breaks down, like during Supreme Court nominations, or the Clinton impeachment, but in general, the ruling class takes care of itself, and quite well too.
George Will put it best, bi-partisanship is the ruling class deciding something benefits them, at the cost of We The People.
Occasionally it breaks down, like during Supreme Court nominations, or the Clinton impeachment, but in general, the ruling class takes care of itself, and quite well too.
George Will put it best, bi-partisanship is the ruling class deciding something benefits them, at the expense of We The People.
Geezie Christmas! What really burns me up is that this woman got a PHD. to figure out planned obsolescence and indoctrinate kids that we have to stop being capitalists. I figured this stuff out senior year in high-school without a book.
Hey, is George Soros the big fat capitalist pig-big business and is that a racist picture of Obama shining his shoes?
another great one without doubt!
I remember my crabby old mom admitting she had a thing for one movie star: William Holden. That's an impressive acting compliment.
I'm glad other people see this as well. Right now, the only thing that calling for Obama's impeachment will do is make us all look line moonbats. Remember the liberals who did this for Bush? They ended up looking stupid.
And if we start calling for Obama's impeachment now, when he hasn't done anything objective enough to warrant it, when he does do something, and we have to start calling for his impeachment for real, no one will take us seriously.
Evil Overlord Rule #109: I will see to it that plucky young lads/lasses in strange clothes and with the accent of an outlander shall REGULARLY climb some monument in the main square of my capital and denounce me, claim to know the secret of my power, rally the masses to rebellion, etc. That way, the citizens will be jaded in case the real thing ever comes along.
I need to watch the video in full, but as I understand it, it is supposed to be anti-consumerism. This is yet another example of the statist realigning definitions for its agenda. Consumerism as traditionally defined as the pursuit of happiness through obtaining material possessions. Hell, under that definition I'm anti-consumerist. But from what I can tell, (haven't watched it in full yet) the video is against the use of natural resources for development of better products. That is called progress. The video says we are trained to want the better product. And true, advertising does push the "bigger, newer, better" line. But that is assuming people can't see through advertising and make personal choices. Maybe, I want the better product, because it will improve the quality of life. That isn't the same as happiness. Thirty years ago, we had phones that where bigger, hung a wall, and had a long cord. Thirty or so years before that you needed to use a operator to connect the call to another person. Now, we have mobile phones and cordless phones. We can connect with other people when ever, where ever we want. Why? Not because some altruistic guy wanted to improve my life, but he wanted to make a buck, so he developed a better product than the competition, to get more business. That is why Hayek described the profit motive and competition as a discovery process.
Sunset Boulevard is my favorite along with Stalag 13. He was great in The Country Girl and Network also. But his turn on I Love Lucy where he meets up with her at The Brown Derby and gets a face full of pastry and then sets Lucy's fake nose on fire is one of the great classics of all time! The man puts today's metrosexual morons to shame.
That seemed to be over half his film roles. He was superb and a joy to watch.
Your comment is being taken under serious consideration.
Given events in Iran this past year, the U.S. should have led the walkout. It's pretty bad when we have to say we should have followed Canada's lead. After everything the Iranian people suffered through this summer, the least we could have done was show them a little moral support. Let's see…Iran (sort of), Georgia, Poland, Czech Republic, Honduras, Israel, Great Britain…how many countries has Obama shown the finger to now?
Not to mention the fact that there is no such thing as "natural" or "old growth" forest, because even in the absence of humans, it's constantly changing. What I wonder is, when nature is constantly creating and destroying on its own, why is it so awful when we do the same?
I just ran across this joke on the Daily Telegraph's blog and I absolutely had to post it.
Al Gore, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama go to heaven.
God addresses Al first. ”Al, what do you believe in?”
Al replies: “Well, I believe that I won that election, but that it was your will that I did not serve. And I’ve come to understand that now.” God thinks for a second and says: “Very good. Come and sit at my left.”
God then addresses Bill. “Bill, what do you believe in?” Bill replies: “I believe in forgiveness. I’ve sinned, but I’ve never held a grudge against my fellow man, and I hope no grudges are held against me.” God thinks for a second and says: “You are forgiven, my son. Come and sit at my right.”
Then God addresses Barack. “Barack, what do you believe in?” He replies: “I believe you’re in my chair.”
Normally I don't care much for Canadians, I got my fill prowling the strip clubs in Montreal years ago. And lately they seemed to have picked up a little European condescension towards Americans, but in this case, I second that emotion!
LET'S HEAR IT FOR THE CANUCKS!
SOB is such an underrated movie. I love when William Holden tells a panicked Robert Webber to go have a Scotch and Maalox.
Some of you might enjoy my quiz at "Are You a Movie Genius?" http://www.ruamoviegenius.blogspot.com with a quiz about movie music.
Sample: "Everyone knows in which film Judy Garland sings "Over the Rainbow", but it take a movie genius to remember in which Jimmy Stewart sings it."
Or you might want to skip over to the answers for some very cool Youtube Links.
Didn't know the Reagan/Davis connection. Cool.
Great last line, Tiger. If Orwell were watching this, he'd sue for misappropriation. If Rand were watching, she'd change the channel, saying, "Seen it, wrote it, got the royalties checks."
But re: impeachment, Article 2 only provides for high crimes and misdemeanors, however, this is a question I've been chatting up a bit in the past week or three: why doesn't Article 2 provide for some kind of performance of duty clause? I'm making that up, obviously, but my point is only this: if you elect/hire someone to do a job, and they not only do it poorly, but by any measure seem to go steaming batshyte crazy in the opposite direction of anything you rightly expected, then why isn't there a proviso by which you can revoke the agreement? Again, I'm using this language mostly rhetorically, but I hope the point is clear-ish: if voters can issue recalls on mayors or governors, why can't a mis-performing president, whose "mis-performance" likely presents some form of (for lack of a better term) clear and present danger, be recalled and have his election revoked and annulled? In other words, impeached?
I'd love to see that happen. Unfortunately, the only people who run for office are not about to enact limits to their power.
Those who run for office are the usually the least qualified to hold that office.
What you are talking about is the Parliamentary system of Govt. In the Parliamentary system, if the sitting Government/Prime Minister is thought to be “under-performing” a motion of “non-confidence” can be called. If the vote on that motion carries, the Parliament is dissolved and a new election held. In Canada, I seem to remember a Prime Minister that lasted all of 10 months, before being booted and a new election held.
Amazing, I couldn't beleive it.
Someone from the UK has actually come to their senses.
A Sky News reporter has actually said that Obama is abysmal at international affairs.
And he even said the unthinkable: "That Bush was better on international matters"!
I should check out Sky News to see if there's already a video of that.
New York Post just posted this story on Obama's mistress. Her name is Vera Baker. Interesting. It says Michelle is pissed. She'd be wiser to be scared. Trust me – if the media silence is breaking on his mistress, than it will break on the other skeletons in his closet. And those are WAY scarier than a mistress.
http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/michelle_obama_re...
I just posted a link to the New York Post on Obama's mistress – Vera Baker – but I don't know if the link is any good. Here's a second link to the same story.
http://tinyurl.com/l7cxf8
Great scene from 'Born Yesterday' where William Holden takes Judy Holiday on a tour of Washginton DC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu-tdk7kQSA&fe...
I have a couple of inlaws who bought into the "Inconvenient Truth" crap. The first thing that came to mind for me to say to them in the simplest terms I could, was why do we not have dinosaurs walking around here anymore? The industry killed them off? Did people cause the ice age? One of them said "I never thought about that."
That's what they never tell you. Even if a species becomes extinct, there are new ones discovered every day.
Great actor..the famous shot of him standing on the bow of the carrier in the film "The bridge at
Toko Ri" shows why some actors are stars. Cliff Roberston once asked how he got out of B films
and made it to the big time? Holden answered…..Sunset Boulevard.
Booze haunted his entire career though. I heard he was never allowed back in Italy due to a tragic car
accident.
Did she pretend to show them off in V/V, but the camera cut away? I haven't seen the movie in years, but I did like it a lot. Near the end, I thought I remembered her ripping the front of her dress open to prove once and for all, yes, she was female, to James Garner.
DUCK! Here comes a flying pig!
Kelly, I believe actors like Bill Holden, Robert Mitchum, Kirk Douglas, etc are out there. They are not getting cast because the casting people are made up of young gals who were script readers, secretaries and failed actresses that are now casting. I knew one casting gal that asked Donald O'Conner what would make him at the late age of 70 begin an acting career? Donald just had a head-shot and no resume, which I saw was three pages typed both sides and every empty space was a credit. This gal didn't know who donald was but they all think Matt Damon and Ben are hunks. You can't get work as an actor unless the gal who is casting you thinks you maybe good in bed. You can be Oliver, talent up the ying yang, its about what gets them a tingle. Then you get hired. ITs a whacky business were logic doesn't apply.
I think it is the still well racked Rosanna Arquette in SOB. Saw her on TMZ the other day and she looks fantastic.
What? No mention of THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI?
Only film I ever saw with an audience where people spontaneously stood up and cheered loudly when Alec Guinness comes back to his senses.
And what a cast-
William Holden
Alec Guinness
Jack Hawkins
Sessue Hayakawa
(Makes me want a cold Rheingold Beer just about now.)
Mmmmmmmmm…..cold beer
Rheingold!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rheingold_Beer
I can't look at Hugh Jackman and not think of William Holden. It's like Jackman spent hours in front of late-night movies to perfect his imitation.
According to James Taranto over at WSJ's Best of the Web, Barney Frank has flipped his support for ACORN.
"If Acorn has lost Barney Frank, it has lost Middle America."
http://online.wsj.com/article/best_of_the_web_tod...
About 1/2 way down the page.
Action,comedy, drama, and very good looking, not pretty…just very good looking. Mr. Holden could hold his own with other actors of his period. I still have fond memories of his dance with the fabulous Kim Novak to the song, 'Moonglow', in 'Picnic'. If you haven't seen it, check it out. It still makes quite an impression.
I had a chance to buy a 300 Weatherby Magnum that was once owned by William Holden, Couldn't make up my mind and waited to long. Well Stalag 17 is a favorite of mine, and the Little seen Breezy. Will looking over the rifle, it looked well cared for, he carried it, and my guess hunted and shot a bit of big game with it. Should have bought it.
"It's the extra-dry treat!"
Ok – I am going to take an educated guess.
Song is from 1939
JS was signed with MGM, but was about to leave for service in WW2.
He would likely sign it to a woman.
Possibly sing it while the song was 'hot'.
Trying to remember the other Stewart Metros from that near.
It's not IT'S A WONDERFUL WORD with JS and Colbert. (btw – Funny as anything screwball comedy!) I swear by my eyes!
OK – my guess is Zeigfeld Girl. Not at all sure positively, but as good as I can do w/o looking at a list of his films.
Now – back at you – and this one takes a genius – What Mel Torme film ends with OVER THE RAINBOW playing during the final scene.
The dance is the high point of a fine film. Romantic, sensual, sexual, erotic and happy. You're happy to see these lost people find each other.
Holden's best roles were as the jaded pessimist struggling to do the right thing. A great role model for anyone over 30.
The beer that millions buy!
Wiki totally missed any reference to KWAI and Rheingold!
Yep! Mary Poppins showed her boobies in "SOB" but only after Robert Preston who played the doctor to the stars shot her up with 55 gallons of some kind of dope. That was right after she goosed the cameraman. The camera did not cut away. "Victor/Victoria" featured many of the same actors but "SOB" has got to be one of the best cast movies I've ever seen. My favorite scene (not to ruin it for those of you who haven't seen it) is when Richard Mulligan steps onto the carpet. The look on his face is priceless! The next scene is a howl too, as are most of them.
Another of my favorite scenes is the one featuring the buddies' trip through town in Holden's vintage Mercedes convertible with the heart-shaped glasses and the Viking helment. Webber's various frightened reactions had me in stitches.
Stalag 17 and Sunset Boulevard are awesome, but I really love The Horse Soldiers. John Wayne, John Ford and William Holden. What's not to like? And a little Strother Martin for extra goodness.
The Philadelphia Story
not me.
Thanks for link.
Oh, the Viking funeral!
This movie is a low-key classic!
"The video says we are trained to want the better product. And true, advertising does push the 'bigger, newer, better'line."
If advertisers "push" that agenda, it's because that's what people alredy want. i'd like to see this lady apply for a job at an advertising agency by telling them she's going to try to make consumers buy stuff. It's much more cost-effective to find out what people want and promise it to them than it is to come up with something and force people to like it.
during the filming of the "Horse Soldiers" Holden was desperate to get the role of
the drifter In "Picnic". He had dinner in New Orleans with the producer and director
and was told he was to old and they wanted someone who could dance. Holden
stood up walked over to another table borrowed a dude's wife and proceeded to dance
with her around the tables to the surprise of the dinner crowd. He thus was miscast in
Picnic.
Good job, OL. Oscar, stumped on the Torme question. Was it in that documentary they made on Harold Arlin? Or was it in that awful Chevy Chase 'comedy' "Under the Rainbow"? I saw it and have been trying to forget it ever since.
The dialogue is deliciously biting; the situations are intertwined and interesting; the pratfalls and other sight gags are hilarious, "Pink Panther" style; and, the characters are all funny as hell. Ah, yes. The scene with Roseanna Arquette asking the cop if she might get busted
The scenes with Stuart Margolin and Benson Fong arguing were also major hoots. Robert Vaughn in a tutu, webbed stockings, and high heels with feathers on them is beyond description. Doctor Irving's continuous asides keep the chuckles and snorts coming. Bridling at Loretta Swit's raving about being denied entry to a closed set while Dr. Irving strolls in: "Polly! I could sue you for that! A shyster is an unethical attorney. I'm a quack!"
Or was Vaughn wearing a bustier and panties? Too funny for words!
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