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	<title>Comments on: Prop 8: I&#8217;m Spartacus!  No, I&#8217;m Scott Eckern!</title>
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		<title>By: LibertyLover</title>
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		<dc:creator>LibertyLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 19:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, ones belief on what sort of consequences -- beyond the government -- should or should not exist in a civil society when someone express their opinion tends to be highly situational.   People often want not just freedom of speech (or expression in general) but to be free of any negative consequences or criticism for their expression. 
 
I was not a big fan of the Dixie Chicks -- that has not changed -- but  I remember lots of my friends and workers quickly lining up along partisan lines as to what should happen to them for comments.  Or the racially or sexually insenitive comments made by celebrities, or someone who publicly comes out for or against Proposition 8. 
 
In general, liberals and conservatives are equally willing to be inconsistent about these sorts of things as much as they are in not losing too much sleep over say, excluding Independent or third party candidates from the ballot or a public debate. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, ones belief on what sort of consequences &#8212; beyond the government &#8212; should or should not exist in a civil society when someone express their opinion tends to be highly situational.   People often want not just freedom of speech (or expression in general) but to be free of any negative consequences or criticism for their expression. </p>
<p>I was not a big fan of the Dixie Chicks &#8212; that has not changed &#8212; but  I remember lots of my friends and workers quickly lining up along partisan lines as to what should happen to them for comments.  Or the racially or sexually insenitive comments made by celebrities, or someone who publicly comes out for or against Proposition 8. </p>
<p>In general, liberals and conservatives are equally willing to be inconsistent about these sorts of things as much as they are in not losing too much sleep over say, excluding Independent or third party candidates from the ballot or a public debate.</p>
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		<title>By: GayPatriot &#187; Hating &#38; Blacklisting Supporters of Traditional Marriage</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriot &#187; Hating &#38; Blacklisting Supporters of Traditional Marriage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 00:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] O&#8217;Connor reminds us of &#8220;Scott Eckern, the Artistic Director of Sacramento Music Theatre [who] was forced to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Big Hollywood &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I Am Stage Right</title>
		<link>http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/sright/2009/01/09/im-spartacus-no-im-scott-eckern/comment-page-2/#comment-1521218</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Hollywood &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I Am Stage Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Big Blogs of Breitbart.com.  When it all began, I was motivated by the events that brought down Sacramento Music Theatre executive Scott Eckern.  Ironically, his story, which inspired this new avocation also served as a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Big Government &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I Am Stage Right</title>
		<link>http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/sright/2009/01/09/im-spartacus-no-im-scott-eckern/comment-page-2/#comment-1519186</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Government &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I Am Stage Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Big Blogs of Breitbart.com.  When it all began, I was motivated by the events that brought down Sacramento Music Theatre executive Scott Eckern.  Ironically, his story, which inspired this new avocation also served as a real-life lesson in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan can&#039;t compare history.  Plus Gay marriage was forced on the public. Tom Hanks is un-American for supporting &quot;forced&quot; legislation in opposition to what the masses wanted.  Now the Gay and Lesbian groups will scare people to push this over the 50 percent needed in the next election.  What a bunch of whiners...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan can&#8217;t compare history.  Plus Gay marriage was forced on the public. Tom Hanks is un-American for supporting &#8220;forced&#8221; legislation in opposition to what the masses wanted.  Now the Gay and Lesbian groups will scare people to push this over the 50 percent needed in the next election.  What a bunch of whiners&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Big Hollywood &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;Prop 8: The Musical&#8221; on the Great White Way</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Hollywood &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;Prop 8: The Musical&#8221; on the Great White Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at the Gershwin.  The star-studded Internet video was released in response to the Scott Eckern episode in which Marc Shaiman was a central [...]</description>
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		<title>By: patience</title>
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		<dc:creator>patience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been noticing since 9/11 an amazing amount of attention and resources being spent on this special interest group.  They appear to be nacississtic in nature and down right facist in imposing their will on their families friends communities countries.  i too have family and friends that are gay and really hate this self centered sub group who like the terrorizing muslims in the world pretend to speak for all muslims.  Grow up!  i am all for health benefits etc for a civil union but same sex couples do not make a marriage.  I watch in small town usa the pride parade runs the same weekend as fathers day.  Your agenda is clear.  boycott&#039;s of the shop that won&#039;t hang your posters. And then the parade- wow-what role models for a healthy family- give me a break.

Your self centered pity party about basic rights being denied is a bunch of crap you built up in trying to build a case.  You have no case.  You are some of the most privileged people on the face of the earth. Why don&#039;t you start acting like it. Do you ask yourself how many hours of your life you have frittered away with this crap?  When was the last time you helped someone in a truly substantial way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been noticing since 9/11 an amazing amount of attention and resources being spent on this special interest group.  They appear to be nacississtic in nature and down right facist in imposing their will on their families friends communities countries.  i too have family and friends that are gay and really hate this self centered sub group who like the terrorizing muslims in the world pretend to speak for all muslims.  Grow up!  i am all for health benefits etc for a civil union but same sex couples do not make a marriage.  I watch in small town usa the pride parade runs the same weekend as fathers day.  Your agenda is clear.  boycott&#8217;s of the shop that won&#8217;t hang your posters. And then the parade- wow-what role models for a healthy family- give me a break.</p>
<p>Your self centered pity party about basic rights being denied is a bunch of crap you built up in trying to build a case.  You have no case.  You are some of the most privileged people on the face of the earth. Why don&#8217;t you start acting like it. Do you ask yourself how many hours of your life you have frittered away with this crap?  When was the last time you helped someone in a truly substantial way?</p>
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		<title>By: The Rock</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an infuriating woman. She&#039;s trying to compare Prop 8&#039;s impact on gays to the 1800s persecution against the Mormons? I want to scream and rip my hair out right now. She&#039;s either counting on an ignorant reader base, or is ignorant herself.

I&#039;m a member of the LDS Church myself. I served a mission in Spain, I pay my tithing, I read my scriptures daily and I try to do the best I can by my fellow man. No matter what is happening in my life, my faith brings me happiness and fulfillment, as faith from different churches does for other people as well. Yet Susan signs her name on the long list of people who try to slander us in the name of advancing a corrupt cause.

History lesson: The Mormons were chased out of Missouri by mobs in the mid 1800s. Their homes were burned down, their women raped, their men tarred and feathered. They went to Illinois and broke a swampland into fertile territory and built a temple. Mobs moved in after them there, and the same thing happened that went down in Missouri. Their leader was taken to court on trumped-up charges (of which he wasn&#039;t legitimately convicted) and then shot by a mob and fell out of a prison window.

Then the Mormons trekked west to Salt Lake and did the same thing to the western desert that they&#039;d done to the swamps. Because of Mormon settlers, the West became a land that could be used and cultivated (even my hometown of Las Vegas was originally settled by Mormons). And even then, lies spread to the government about their activities, and an army was sent to stomp them out. Countless men have been beaten and slain, women have been violated and homes have been destroyed in the name of blind hatred toward the Mormons, and just because now they stand up for preserving the sacred institution of marriage, WE&#039;RE the ones doing something just as bad or worse to gays? 

A more significant comparison to the Mormons and Prop 8 would be something like Israel and Gaza (though on an extremely small scale). We take a beating forever and the news outlets tell us it&#039;s our lot to suffer it, and the moment we stand up for something, suddenly we&#039;re the oppressors. 

BH, thanks for creating this blog and calling for more common sense on the part of the American people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an infuriating woman. She&#8217;s trying to compare Prop 8&#8217;s impact on gays to the 1800s persecution against the Mormons? I want to scream and rip my hair out right now. She&#8217;s either counting on an ignorant reader base, or is ignorant herself.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a member of the LDS Church myself. I served a mission in Spain, I pay my tithing, I read my scriptures daily and I try to do the best I can by my fellow man. No matter what is happening in my life, my faith brings me happiness and fulfillment, as faith from different churches does for other people as well. Yet Susan signs her name on the long list of people who try to slander us in the name of advancing a corrupt cause.</p>
<p>History lesson: The Mormons were chased out of Missouri by mobs in the mid 1800s. Their homes were burned down, their women raped, their men tarred and feathered. They went to Illinois and broke a swampland into fertile territory and built a temple. Mobs moved in after them there, and the same thing happened that went down in Missouri. Their leader was taken to court on trumped-up charges (of which he wasn&#8217;t legitimately convicted) and then shot by a mob and fell out of a prison window.</p>
<p>Then the Mormons trekked west to Salt Lake and did the same thing to the western desert that they&#8217;d done to the swamps. Because of Mormon settlers, the West became a land that could be used and cultivated (even my hometown of Las Vegas was originally settled by Mormons). And even then, lies spread to the government about their activities, and an army was sent to stomp them out. Countless men have been beaten and slain, women have been violated and homes have been destroyed in the name of blind hatred toward the Mormons, and just because now they stand up for preserving the sacred institution of marriage, WE&#8217;RE the ones doing something just as bad or worse to gays? </p>
<p>A more significant comparison to the Mormons and Prop 8 would be something like Israel and Gaza (though on an extremely small scale). We take a beating forever and the news outlets tell us it&#8217;s our lot to suffer it, and the moment we stand up for something, suddenly we&#8217;re the oppressors. </p>
<p>BH, thanks for creating this blog and calling for more common sense on the part of the American people.</p>
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		<title>By: John Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What I want to know is where, exactly, in out legal documents, does it state that there is a RIGHT to marry.&quot;

Loving v Virginia seemed to find that right as &quot;substantive Due Process.&quot;  &quot;Substantive Due Process&quot; is one for the more dubious projections of constitutional law.  I don&#039;t think you will find it anywhere else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What I want to know is where, exactly, in out legal documents, does it state that there is a RIGHT to marry.&#8221;</p>
<p>Loving v Virginia seemed to find that right as &#8220;substantive Due Process.&#8221;  &#8220;Substantive Due Process&#8221; is one for the more dubious projections of constitutional law.  I don&#8217;t think you will find it anywhere else.</p>
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