Navigating the Gender Pass with ‘Gunga Din’
by Schizoid MannI have always thought that men and women are different.
No kidding, professor.
No, really, they are. I don’t mean in all the right places, of course, but somewhere else, with movies, in enjoying the things we see in the movies.

I remember seeing Gunga Din (1939) for the first time and knowing from the opening shot that this was my kind of film. This was a guy film. Not a wishy-washy movie filled up with dance numbers and kissing scenes, but a guy flick. Great guy stuff was in this movie, and I was sold on it from the first pounding of that thunderous mighty gong. When Alfred Newman’s score turned from playful to ominous faster than you can say, ‘trouble in Tantrapur’, I knew I was in for a good one. This was the kind of movie you watched on a Saturday afternoon with your dad or with your pals. This was adventure!
There’s no way, I had always thought, that a girl can appreciate this kind of film, that she can ‘get into’ Gunga Din and get out of it what I got out of it. There’s just no way. Would she be able to feel the same way I did, the way other guys do, when watching Victor McLaglen face quickly turn from stone to fraudulent smile as he tries to trick his buddy? Can she feel the same rush of pride when hearing the trumpet scream the battle cry, or when seeing the Sikh Cavalry charge against the 400 horsemen of Kali? Does she get choked up along with Mac, Cutter and Bal when Montagu Love reads Kipling’s reflective poem in that final scene? Is modern woman capable of this? Or will she be more concerned with the sole female character in the story, trying, naturally, to relate to her instead? These things I wondered. Yet, I was as certain of the answers to these questions as I was of Sergeant Ballantine’s destiny. No woman could do these things, bridge that crevasse away from the familiar into pure guy territory, where it’s always double drill and no canteen. It just isn’t done.
But guess what? I was wrong. Completely wrong. In fact, I’ll go out on an already shaky rope bridge here and state I’ve never met a woman who didn’t like Gunga Din. That’s right, not one. Sure, it’s got funny and handsome Cary Grant – what woman doesn’t love Cary? For that matter, what man doesn’t want to be him, including? And it’s got the dashing Douglas Fairbanks Jr. with that infectious smile and shock of hair that falls down great when he lunges with either saber, pistol or right hook into an opponent. I mean, let’s face it, what female doesn’t like to watch these two guys at rest or in motion? But that’s not it, that’s not the reason they like Gunga Din, well not completely, anyway.
I believe it’s actually closer to what happens in the scene in the temple when our three British soldiers plus one, are caught and imprisoned in the confines of that locked dungeon, complete with pit of snakes. Comically, with torture and certain death if they don’t figure a way out soon, all the ‘proud ox’ MacChesney can think of is retrieving Sergeant Ballantine’s signed reenlistment form, securing his buddy’s companionship and saving him from what he believes is a death far worse than any pit of snakes could ever inflict: married life. The means he goes about trying to get his hands on that paper is a joy to behold. His phony fear of snakes and being lashed again is, like so many other Victor McLaglen moments, lovable and priceless. It really is, I believe, this kind of friendly sparring and not so much the looks and charm of the other two leading men, that is the key. The loyalty, friendship and devotion to one’s chums, the camaraderie replete with fun-loving jabs and good natured mocking is what wins the day for the viewer and makes these kinds of films work so well and on so many personally appealing levels.
An equally shocking discovery I made about Gunga Din is that not only do the women I know love this movie, but that they dislike the love interest, the fiance, Emmy with equal passion. No, not for the cliched reasons like ‘she’s not a strong character’ and all that baloney. No, that’s not it. And anyway, it’s not true since, under the circumstances, she’s pretty darn strong. So what don’t they like about her? The same thing George Stevens, Ben Hecht and I don’t like about her. They hate what she’s trying to do. The women I know hate the fact that Sergeant Ballantine’s lover wants to take him away from his pals, from the adventure, from life itself, to go into the tea business, of all things. They, like Cutter and Mac, want that siren to fail.
In real life there are not many women who would give up a life of luxury, lucrative profits in a very promising business in order to let a husband run off and reenlist in the thankless job of Her Majesty’s service. Nor are there many women who want their men to go up against elephants on rope bridges or Kali worshiping stranglers as a line of work. Not many at all. Probably not even one. And that makes a lot of sense. So, why do women when watching Gunga Din want Bal to join Cutter and Mac (and Din) and do precisely that in the movie? Is the answer simply to be explained away as yet another unfathomable layer of the complex nature of woman, the incomprehensibility of the fairer sex to the brutish mind of man?
Beats me.
So, I asked myself, why do women want a fellow woman’s plans stopped, granted not in the same feverish way Eduardo Ciannelli’s high priest wants to stop the British Empire with his much copied crescendo-building “Kill for the Love of Killing” speech, but definitely stopped. Why do women want Cutter and Mac to succeed in their scheme to reenlist their friend and take him away from the woman in the story? This question puzzled me. It nagged at my inner man. Then, one day, quite unexpectedly, I had an epiphany, a stroke of genius. It was one of those ‘eureka moments’, the kind you hear about, the kind that make you jump out of the bath, covered in soapy suds and run out into the street yelling at the top of your lungs, “I’VE GOT IT!! I’VE GOT IT!!”
For the record, I’d suggest not expressing yourself in that way, exactly. Unless, of course you have a very good lawyer or a burning desire to see the inside of a psychiatric ward. I have neither, so it’s fortunate that I came to my senses before I cleared the door jam and therefore was not forced to scribe this article onto a thick stone wall with a dull spoon.
What I figured out amongst the bubbles was this: Women want men. Again, no kidding. No, hold on. That’s not it, exactly. Women want other men. Wait a minute, that’s not quite right, either. Let’s try again. Women want what other women want and that includes men. Yeah, that’s what I mean, sort of.
Or to put it another way, in the form of a question, I came up with this: What woman, besides Joan Fontaine’s Emmy, would desire a domesticated Douglas Fairbanks who does very little else aside from selling tea and reading the paper? None. What woman would want a Douglas Fairbanks riding a horse, crossing swords with bad guys, getting trapped, imprisoned, escaping “by sheer strategy alone” and saving not only his chums, but the whole bloomin’ regiment, king and country, with a little help from his friends?
Every woman, that’s who! At least I think so.
Because, that’s the figure of a man. A man acts. He doesn’t necessarily think. For good or bad, he just does. And then another revelation occurred to me, not at the same time, thankfully, and not involving suds, but still noteworthy. As I’ve mentioned elsewhere, I have a theory about men and women and it sort of ties in with all of this. I’ll restate part of it here briefly:
Men are simple. Women are complicated.
Men live in the past. Women live in the future.
(I have a sneaking suspicion children are the only ones who live in the present)
Here’s the big one:
Women plan. Men dream.
When men become more like women – no not that way - but when they stop dreaming as men dream, stop being reckless, stop living the adventure, stop thinking anything is possible (even if it clearly isn’t), stop acting, stop doing, when they cease to do these things, be these things, something has happened to them.
They’ve grown old.
What I mean is, they’ve given up the ability to dream. They may not be old in years, but in spirit they are dusty cobwebs. They may not even know it happened to them until much later, well after the woman in their lives knows it. That’s something I’ll have to remind myself of from time to time, no doubt.
When I think on other films that are called ‘guy flicks’ or ‘buddy movies’ there are so many that I love that I won’t even attempt to begin to list them. I will say, though, that along with Gunga Din (1939), The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938), The Sea Hawk (1940), The Thing from Another World (1951), The Lives of a Bengal Lancer (1935), Sahara (1943), and Cyrano de Bergerac (1950) are some of my favorite guy movies of all time, which honor things like honor, duty and the undying capacity to dream large, even when all around them is a nightmare. These are films I never get tired of watching, nor ever will. There are others, lots more, and even some that are more recent, that have similar appeal. Braveheart comes to mind. But for the most part, these newer films are missing something that their predecessors have. Maybe it’s the technicolor, or the monochrome for that matter, or just maybe, it’s the writing, the way in which dialogue plays such a dominant role in shaping the characters. I tend to think that’s the reason. Then again, maybe it’s just because I saw most of them as a kid. Who knows? Not me, and frankly, I don’t think I really want to know. Because I’d rather dream.
But, yes, these are some of my favorites, and it’s interesting that all of them, yes, all of them, are some of my female friends’ favorites as well. What does that say? That I hang around a bunch of butch chicks? No, I hope it doesn’t say that. It says that there are films about men, that don’t get all mushy, that women truly love for the same reasons men do. It says that women can sit and watch a film about men with no female character they can associate with, or even like in the story and come away thoroughly thrilled at the outcome.
So, are these guy flicks, or not? I guess not. They’re more than that. They’re great flicks. They speak to both men and women as loud and clear as Din’s trumpeting. But how are they able to do that? What do they have in common? They were all written by people who could write. Sure they are genre, but they aren’t hackneyed, formulaic. And most of all, they weren’t supposed to appeal to just men, or just women, or just kids, or just adults. They were meant to be enjoyed by everyone. Their message however politically incorrect some may find it, is universal. And that’s why they are hard to find nowadays. Because today, it’s all about pitching to a niche. Everything has to have a target audience, a market to aim for, a demographic to appease, please and all to often, pander to.
Great films don’t do that. Not guy flicks, not chick flicks, not any flicks. Great is great. And great films charge ahead into the breech not caring what this or that group thinks is proper or offensive. We’re missing that kind of courage today. And our culture is suffering because of it. These days, we hear a lot about so-called controversial films. Yet no filmmaker seems daring enough to take a chance at being great, at dreaming large. Why should they when it’s so much easier to pander?
There’s a scene in another great, though entirely different film that captures and defines the essence of what a man is, what he wishes he was, and what he wants other men to see him as.
At the end of The Right Stuff, Chuck Yeager takes his Lockheed F-104 Starfighter up to where the sky ends and space itself begins. He’s so far up that there isn’t enough oxygen in the air to fully power the turbine anymore. His engine quits. He spins out of control amongst the vast stars and great heavens above, falling to earth like Icarus with melted wings.
But unlike the Greek, there is no ocean to catch him. Only the brutally harsh and unforgiving desert of Edwards.
With frantic eyes peering past hope at the funereal black smoke on the horizon, the ambulance driver suddenly spots a lone figure in the distance walking toward them, shimmering in the blurry heat like a mirage – or a god. We see he is burnt, bloody and limping. It’s Yeager, and he’s carrying his helmet and parachute.
“Is that a man?”, the driver asks Ridley, fellow test pilot and Yeager’s best friend.
Grinning ear to ear, Ridley replies, “You’re damn right it is!”
Something tells me Emmy would agree.
















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That was beautiful.
For a few moments there, at the beginning, I was trying to decide whether or not to chew you out though!
Lol! Oh, thanks.
Yeah, I figured I might get a slap from somebody with this one.
You nailed it in one. Great job and great insights. The more that Hollywood tries to target thier audience the more they miss the mark. Just get a scatter gun with the choke opened wide and blast away. Good is good and will be recognised as such by more than any targeted film could ever do. As far as men being portrayed it has been a long time, I guess that's why the Duke is still popular today so many years since his passing. No apologies just forging straight ahead and damn the torpedoes.
I'm a feminine woman and given the choice, I'd much rather see a movie with an all male cast than one with an all female cast. Give me The Dirty Dozen over Sex and the City any day. Chick flicks bore me to tears.
I just rented a movie called Outlander which was really very good. It was a story driven action film that was scifi based tale about viking dragon hunters that I think met this vain. I think it was a low budget b film but without the money for extensive CGI the director had to go back to basics with shadowing and camera shots to create the effects.
In so many action films the gratuitous CGI detracts from the film. Even in the new Star Trek we have Kirk on some ice world being chased by giant monsters ala star wars. It was cool the first time because you had not seen it before but it is so comical that the effect I think has jumped the shark.
I think one of your truly great films will know how to make the proper use of special effects. To enhance the film and not to define it. Great post I really enjoyed your insight.
It's telling that you have to go to a film nearing 80 years old to make a point about how men and women like the same things. You could not be farther from the truth in terms of what women of today want to see in modern movies.
Men like films such as "300" or "Taken" or "Iron Man." Women like "Sex and the City" (around half a billion box office world-wide), or "the Notebook," or "27 Dresses." Films no straight man would sit through willingly. TV is of course, even worse, a female/gay ghetto. What's interesting (and IMHO tragically stupid) is the audience segregation of films. Very few films that have wide/deep appeal to women interest men, and vice-versa.
It's even worse when you consider the portraits of men and women in respectively appealing films. Men in women's films are hunks, gays, or "the Office" type losers, women in men's films are "wives, hookers, girlfriends, mothers, victims." Or kick-ass waifs, who can lift hundreds of pounds but never apparently a fork.
Well, I am butch but I still get a lump in my throat at the end of Gunga Din.
I've visited the Alabama Hills/Lone Pine movie location about a half dozen times.
Makes for a great weekend road trip if you live in the SoCal area.
I'm a big fan of Gunga Din as well. I was just telling my wife the other night, after watchng Rio Bravo, that most modern movies go for CGI over character development everytime. I rather see a true guy movie with some real bonding anytime. McLaglen will always be Quincannon to me.
You're a good man, Schizoid Mann.
I'm a woman and I'd NEVER sit through Sex and the City, The Notebook or 27 Dresses willingly.
Lemme tell you a story: The night Iron Man Came out, I went to see it. By myself. I had a cup of cocoa at Johnny Rockets and waited in line in behind a guy and his girlfriend. The Conversation went like this:
Me: So, what are you gonna see?
Him: Made of Honor.
Me:Ahhh, I heard it was good. (Girlfriend nods)
Him: You're gonna see it too?
Me: Naw, Gonna see Iron Man.
His look of sheer disappontment and the girlfriends veiled glare could not be conveyed by simple words.
Give me "guy" films any day.
*MissQuinn*
I don't like "chick flicks" either. I prefer a great adventure, just like the guys. I couldn't even sit through five minutes of the TV show "Sex and the City." Whiny Manhattan c…oops…rhymes with hunts. (LOL)
i have never seen sex and the city. I don't like that stuff. the note book..please. (yuck) one of my favorite movies was Force 10 from naverone. And I love a good western. The old ones. John Wayne. Love him. I really like adventure movies. what makes it hard to go to movie is the cussing, my husband is a H. S. teacher and he says he shouldn't have to pay to hear swearing when he can hear it for free. Sex? he says that he can see that for free in the schools halls too. why pay the big bucks.
One comic gave a great description of the movie preferences of men and women (obviously, it doesn't always work as evidenced by some of the posts here): Women like movies about one person dying slowly. Men like movies about a whole bunch of people dying quickly.
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LOL….I'm so stealin' that….
Someone wise once told me that women live "right here", while we guys live "out there".
"Sahara" and "The Thing from Another World" are not merely two of the best dam' guy flicks ever, but outright gems of cinematic and dramatic art. I've got to add "Treasure of the Sierra Madre" to the list.
How about Captain Blood? I love that movie with a fierce love. And the Quiet Man. Can you imagine what Maureen O'Hara would do if she ran into the chicks from Sex and the City?
Count me as a woman who loves guy movies, after all they have guys in them.
You tell him!
Hooah!
Oh, we feel his pain.
Whiskey, I think you may have missed the point(s) of the article. The very fact that I did go back so far, is one of the points, as in, the writing in classics was quality. It's rare today.
It wouldn't make much sense if I used a modern film. Plus, it's the film I like. It's timeless for me. I wanted to write about Gunga Din. That's the way it is.
Remember, Gunga Din may be close to 80 years old, but Will Shakespeare is a bit older than that, and I still think some folks like that stuff, and reuse it, too, regardless of age. Great is great no matter when it was made. Another point.
Besides, like Shakespeare, Gunga Din continues to influence films to this day. The Indy Jones creation borrows heavily from the George Stevens' film.
Thanks for the input.
Haha. Love it.
"Don't make me laaugh!"
There's a phenomenon that people will go see something they think they should see. I believe this accounts for the huge popularity of crap, namely SITC, and the like. This goes for music even more.
But when given the choice, quality is almost always preferred. The trouble is, many don't know films like Gunga Din exist. So, they settle.
This phenomenon is not limited to movies, it can be seen in everything from choices in music to choices in partners. They're choices, it's true. But its like choosing which Yugo to buy, not knowing other cars are for sale.
That is pretty funny.
Right, but remember, I upped the category, to great flicks, not just guy flicks! So, I think we're on the same page there. And I purposely didn't enter Treasure – actually I did, then erased it, for the one reason that camaraderie doesn't play a (large) part in the story. There are moments, but it's not the driving force, greed is. But of course, it's close to that.
As a matter of fact, I was planning on doing a story on Korda films, highlighting Sahara and another on Hawks' The Thing (with a comparison to Carpenter's). They're down the list of priorities, but at least in the pipeline!
First, I gotta clean the crackers out of my bed.
Captain Blood, like some others, isn't a story based on camaraderie, as such, using it as a driving force, so I didn't enter it. But, yes, it's a terrific movie. TCM played a string of Errol Flynn flicks last year or two years ago when I was home for the holidays. Captain Blood, Robin Hood, Sante Fe Trail, to name some. They didn't play The Sea Hawk, though. Not sure why.
Oh, yeah, Maureen. I recall Star Trek Next Generation did a sort of take off with Will Riker falling for an alien woman, who just happened to have an Irish accent and was tougher than a bag of hammers just like Maureen in The Quiet Man. It was kind of fun.
Ironically, while sitting in a theater watching a chick flick I feel as if I'm the one dying slowly.
Why on earth would I, a woman, go see a girlie film? Chick flicks are all about the same boring, catty things we're told that we're supposed to do in real life. Movies about shopping, make-up, sleeping with the latest boyfriends and dishing about it to your gal pals. Movies about family life and losing family life. The first string of things are superficial, dull, and can be destructive. The second set are what I do every day.
When movies are supposed to be an escape from reality, I want to see aliens and dangerous jungle temples. I want explosions and violence. I want so see men (and women too) risking it all and laying it on the line and triumping, or occasionally failing, against the odds. For a few hours of my life, I want to inhabit those characters and "be" them.
I'd jump at the chance to see movies like Taken, Rambo, Escape from NY, The Dark Knight, Sipderman 2, and Iron Man, but it'll be a cold day in hell before you'd find me watching movies like Sex and the City.
My favorite guy flicks are the two musketeer movies by director Richard Lester in the 1970s, "The Three Musketeers" and "The Four Musketeers." True to the original book with a brilliant script by "Flashman" author George MacDonald Fraser, the greatest ensemble cast ever assembled (Michael York, Oliver Reed, Richard Chamberlain, Frank Finlay, Raquel Welch (her best role ever), Faye Dunaway, Roy Kinnear, Simon Ward, Spike Mulligan, and many more) and probably the most faithful depiction of what military sword fighting was really like ever put on celluloid, not some graceful dance but a hard grueling sweaty duel to the death that leaves even the victor panting for breath.
The 1948 "Three Musketeers" with Gene Kelly had its moments, too, but was basically a comedy.
Maureen O'Hara … tougher than a bag of hammers. Brother, you just said a moutful.
Last "great" guy flick made? The Man Who Would be King. Sean Connery and Michael Caine at their best.
Last night it was my turn to pick a movie. Usually I pick something that my wife has no interest in, like "On the Waterfront" with Brando or "The Cowboys" with John Wayne. This week, I decided to get a couple of movies for her to choose from, so she wouldn't be so upset. I got "The Magnificent Seven," "Lawrence of Arabia," and "High Noon." Aparently, I just can't win. She ended up picking Magnificent Seven, since it is in color and under 3 hours long.
Excellent, excellent article and you are precisely right. I would also imagine that that is pretty much the reason women are so attracted to men in uniform. They realize instinctively that these are MEN and that even though they realize that these men are in a very dangerous profession what they are doing is what women have always expected and needed from men–security, protection and safety.
I LOVE those flicks.
And also…
Zulu
A good read! Another great quote of Frank Zappa, “you are who you is.” The metrosexual horse crap have blurred the lines in Hollywood, boring.
Great post. I'd like to add The Magnificent 7 to the list. Not sure if it qualifies as a"great" flick but, all the elements are there, And, there is just something about a bunch of guys deciding they don't believe in the no-win scenario and by the way pack a lunch pal! Talk about man attitude!
I second "Tamsman" on "The Man Who Would Be King."
And for a Guy's Guide on Motion Picture Foreign Policy, there's, "The Wind and the Lion."
Amen, sistah!!
Interesting analysis but I think anyone gets drawn into a movie with believable character development, even though you maybe be able to relate to them or not. And where is THE GREAT ESCAPE on your list? Not every woman likes a cheesy romance and characters who only care about clothes and makeovers and not every man prefers movies where things blow up. But, throw in believable characters and an interesting plot and you might just have something.
Schizoid, a couple of years writing these essays and you'll have yourself a nice little book. One that I'd buy, and I'm not even into movies.
I'm adding "Gunga Din" to my Netflix queue—never seen it.
Well it worked, I read the whole thing this time and I even went back and finished the other one about the lib nuker flicks.. Epiphany's are funny things, like when I realized The Phantom of the Opera had a happy ending.
Nice scribbling., I'd go on about some pseudo-freudian thing and woman all secretly wanting other women to fail in order to maintain the size of the gene pool, but that'd fail the dinner party discussion test.
Hoorah!!!
One of my guilty pleasures. Has one of best cavalry charges ever filmed. Brian Keith as Teddy Roosevelt is a delight to watch (considered by many to be THE portrayal of TR on film). As is Candice Bergen (in her prime and smoking hot). Great supporting cast. Great action. Loads of fun. And it has some real gems of 'Manly' dialog:
Secretary of State Hays: “Theodore, you’re on to something. I just don’t know what? What is it that you want?”
President Roosevelt: “What do I want? Respect! Respect for human life and American property. And I’ll send the Atlantic Fleet to Morocco tomorrow to get respect.”
Hays: “That’s illegal!”
Roosevelt turns to Secretary Hays with a wide toothy smile. “Now why spoil the beauty of a thing with legality?”
Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7rf93aQXKc
If the movie was remade today it would be difficult to find men like those in Gunga Din
It would be Gunga Din 90210 (like star trek)
THEY just do not make movies like that anymore.
LOVE.LOVE.LOVE "Gunga Din."
I think Zulu (1964) fits in this category. All time favorite. (A very young) Michael Caine in the lead.
Zulu is magnificent. Can you imagine them trying to make that movie today? The protests would be endless.
The scene when Peachy and Danny, the final jig up and surrounded by vengeful Kafiristanis howling for their blood, take time to mend their quarrel and calmly face their fate is arguably the best guy-bonding cinematic moment ever.
Right. There's lots of unPC stuff in these kinds of movies by their very nature. – colonial era stories in particular. Thing is, the blowhards who whine about stuff like that, don't realize that if you wanted to, you could pick apart most anything on similar grounds. All works of fiction, art, cinema, etc. is relative to the time period it depicts or was created in.
I say let the fools whine, I'd prefer it if they didn't watch these films anyway. I'd rather they spent their waking hours obsessing over mediocrity and calling it genius, instead.
Darn! and here I was throwing this happier note piece out in an effort to keep you away! Blast! Foiled again!
Thanks a bunch.
How are you certain a nice little one, or even a big one doesn't exist already?
Thanks. Enjoy Gunga Din!
A Mann by any other name.
Well, that's kinda it, isn't it? I mean, that's what I'm saying. Gals love adventure, men's adventure. Guys love the chemistry between guys.
Ah. Great Escape. Hmm. Well, to be honest I hadn't been reminded of that when writing this, but like I safely mentioned (wipes brow), they are too numerous to list.
As for GE, even if I had remembered it, I probably wouldn't put it in the same category. Again, it's a tragedy, which, for me, tends to add that other dimension to a camaraderie flick, making it, well something else. Before I added GE, I'd have mentioned Hope Crosby road pictures which more closely resembles the tone of GD and others like it. Maybe it's the happy ending, or the sense that things won't get that serious. I dunno. The Thing gets pretty serious too, and I added that.
The Right Stuff is one of my all time favorite films. It has a complex look at some classic themes.
Sam Shepard as Chuck Yeager was the essence of cool masculinity (self-possessed = low key).
The film portrayed his relationship with his wife as being one of mutual respect and playfully keeping it fresh.
That's not too common in films is it?
Initially the film's box office suffered from the three hour length and the public perception that it was propaganda for the political career of John Glenn. Since then (1983) it has grown in popularity on video.
So I don't know how many women have seen it and like it…
Yeah, but that's not a bad 'lose'!
Maybe if you didn't tell her the titles or show her the box and instead described each film by it's tagline or your own?
eg:
A bunch of handsome men who are often in trouble help some families in a small town.
A handsome young man who is often in trouble helps some families in a small, very hot town.
A handsome not-so-young man who is often in trouble decides he's tired of helping families in small, hot towns and retires.
Haha. I stole that one. Though it wasn't originally described as 'tough'. Somehow it fit.
Yes, I really enjoy resourceful filmmaking, such as you describe, using optical effects rather than CG. To think Star Wars was actually that way (first 2 and most of Jedi)
I love model work, stop motion, etc. and just clever ways to shoot something and create an effect with a minimum of post production work. But that's just me (and about several million other people; )
Thanks.
An excellent movie in so many ways. It's got a couple of groan moments for me, but I won't mention them, cuz they're probably not so groanable for others. I'll just say they could have left out the mortician.
I never took it as prop for Glenn. Not at all. The book was a best seller, and Tom Wolfe was quite popular then. Phil Kaufman did an outstanding job with the story.
I don't get why folks whine about length of film. I want it to last longer. Heck, I was fortunate to have attended the famous screening of Abel Gance's Napoleon at Radio City years ago. That was long! But again, outstanding!
You could give me two more hours of Right Stuff and I'd be thrilled.
Regarding The Right Stuff being appreciated by women (or not),
I meant to add that this films presents a humorous, knowing, comprehensive, appreciative look at American masculinity, so women who like John Wayne films and such might really like The Right Stuff.
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How about "Breaker Morant"????? Have you ever scene such handsome manly men???? With lots of closeups, too.
Great. I go search Amazon for "Schizoid," and you wouldn't believe the recommendations I'm getting now.
Thanks a lot.
Haha. Sorry about that. I swear, it ain't me! If I had a book, it'd be under my real name. (I think)
Great film, however, it too, is a tragedy. Basically a different war version of Kubrick's Paths of Glory. I really miss that era of fine films from Australia hitting the theaters in America.
MadMax, Gallipoli, Breaker Morant, Year of Living Dangerously, The Last Wave, and of course, Picnic at Hanging Rock.
Loved Aussie pics — didn't some of those directors move to Hollywood????? Beresford – Witness, etc.
Where are they now?
Peter Weir's last film I believe was Master and Commander. A film I loved and one which made me dearly hope for another from the series of Capt. Aubrey tales from Patrick O'Brian's seafaring novels.
All true — ironically, while the depiction of the Zulus shows their primitive state, it avoids a cartoonish quality you often find in westerns' portrayal of indians. The effect is that one is left with the impression the Zulus were brave and honorable.
RR, "All women want romance, you must cultivate them, women have to be intrigue, they enjoy unraveling the mystery that is man, but you must allow them the freedom to discover you"
You write what I have lived, the plays I have done. the films I've made and the ones I've yet to make. I've played the role you love so much…. its all about fight, risk, adventure… we do what we do because the women are watching!
"We died, we fought again, Who are these men who are so fond of death one Spainard cried.
On and on they came, The with all things lost, We heard the trumpets of our returning troops
The battle was ours"
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