Sgt. Welsh: Believe me, there are a lot of us out here in flyover country who do appreciate your sacrifice and the difficulty of your mission. Don’t ever believe otherwise. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

I am steeling myself for the upcoming Magical Mystery Tour of Obama apologizing to the Muslim world for everything the US has ever done. I fully expect them to laugh at him and reciprocate with more terror. He telegraphs his weakness just like Jimmah Carter. They are going to roll him too. Lord help us and all of our military.

I have worked with many soldiers who were in Iraq and Afghanistan so I know what the true stories are. I also hear the stories from their wives and families. What Hollywood puts out about this war is drivel and I am happy to note that the majority of these movies fail at the box office.

Thank you for your service. Know that many, many Americans value you.

Sgt. Welsh, thank you for your service and like some of the other commenters have said, please know that even though Hollywood doesn’t tell you about those of us who are grateful, it doesn’t mean we don’t exist. Your bravery and perserverance are visible and your outrage is justified, but know that you are loved, admired and prayed for by many who don’t have Hollywood’s far reaching voice.

In truth, I didn’t watch your Valley of Elah, Rendition, or HBO clips because I’ve already refused to give them my time or money for denigrating our troops. I did watch your video at the end, though, and I appreciate the wake up call. It’s easy to sit back and get complacent because you and others have done such an amazing job protecting us. I’m sorry that we haven’t been protesting the negative portrayals loudly enough for you to realize that you are greatly appreciated. You deserve that and so much more.

So, God bless you and thank you so much.

CCFK – you clearly ascribe to Falsifyability – there is no conceivable set of circumstances that could ever prove you wrong. In this case it’s your abject and baseless hate of our military and your utter adoration of Obambi.

Sgt. Welsh – my husband will be doing his second tour in Iraq. The thought of him being there under a President who is devoid of knowledge, courage, or honor is terrifying. You made me feel a hell of a lot better – even if leadership fails, men and women like you will continue to go above and beyond. Thank you.

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Sgt. Welsh, the media and amoral clowns running the country now don’t care about your opinions or the state of the military other than to neuter it. May they be cursed.

Sgt Welch,
Thank you for your service! I don’t have any regard for liberal Hollywood. They spout all of their BS expecting us to believe their opinion is greater and more accurate than ours just because they are in front of the camera? They are self-absorbed gluttons. These elite wealthy liberals try to tell us what you and we should do and then they get in their $100,000 plus cars and go to the club. They tell us that Republicans and Conservatives are rich selfish people as they walk in their multi-million dollar homes staffed by maids, cooks, and personal assistants? Give me a BREAK! It’s the other way around most of the time.
Hollywood libs should be taken to Iraq for 6 months. I bet they would sing a different tune. You are the hero, sir. They are activist mob cowards who shove their opinion down our throats. I for one am not listening to them and I stopped watching and buying tickets to their movies. I’ll do my best to support Conservative Hollywood but that’s it. Breitbart and others like him- thank you! If you make it, I’ll buy it. The other liberal tyrants can all take a long walk on a short pier. Again, thank you again Sgt Welsh. It’s nice to know we have a few good REAL MEN left in this nation. Don’t go to Hollywood and LA to find them; they are few and far between.

I totally stand with Sgt Welsh. As a former Marine and mil blogger, who spent three combat tours in Iraq, I feel his frustration. I’ve had enough of our bias media. As the violence subsides in Iraq, the slim ball mainstream media slowly leave the country. If they can’t report negative stuff on Iraq, they won’t report at all.

Sgt Welsh –

If it is any consolation all these Iraq movies were bombs at the box office – Millions of us know the spin the MSM gives to our military – a funny internet post was how they would have treated the D-Day invasion today – “Thousands of French civilians killed” instead of “Nazis beaten” – their main sin IMO is moral relativism – look at how they treat the Israelis after having 7,000 rockets thrown at them over the last couple of years

Just look at how they treat Vietnam Vets – according to them they are all psychos

The good news is that millions of us “get it” and have looked towards alternative news – ie, new media – it is a shame that you have to go to web sites to get a truer picture but also the newspapers are dying – wonder why

Somebody was snidely questioning Michael Yon’s credentials – he is an ex Special Forces who has the respect of most men in the field – I truest his objectivity a lot more than the NYT

I think you guys are the best generation we’ve had since WW2 – thank you for your service

Yeah. Kind of hard to watch. I was there in ‘03 with the NSW Task Group and then in ‘04 as chaplain to 2nd BN, 2nd MAR. Too many memories on the one hand and wish to God I could be back there. One has to make choices, though, and mine took me away from the fight.

Take heart, though, Sgt. What we have done and are doing is right, and true, and honorable. I am fully prepared to stand before God for my part in helping to identify, isolate and kill evil men in this war. I’d do it again.

God keep you, brother. Keep the faith.

Cliff – January 29th, 2009 at 8:24 am

“Sgt Welsh, thanks for your service. I don’t think going to Iraq was a waste”

To answer that intelligently, you have to answer “what was the cost.” Can you tell us what the cost of this war was in total? What was gained for Americans?

Thank you, Sgt. Welsh for all your efforts. That the major media oppose them is more evidence that you are doing the right thing, and doing it well. You deserve better, it’s true. But take some comfort in knowing that a huge percentage of the American public still regard your profession and our shared cause to defeat the jihadists as noble.

Respectfully,
Jeff Perren

Thank you for your service, Sgt Welsh.

Terry the troll,

What did you EVER do for your country. Do you think America is so dead that people like you will actually run it for any length of time. People wise up to stupid things…. You are that thing.

Sgt. Thanks to you and all before you for service to our country. I served, and will never forget! God Bless the USA!

-JCR

thank you for your service SGT. Welsh.

Christopher – January 29th, 2009 at 8:59 am

“Your heroics have not gone un-noticed, but we have been far too silent.”

What a sick concept of “hero” you have. Killing people because the government says so makes all the Nazis heros, too. Better revise your definition.

“Although I have always had questions about the war, lets not forget that the Gore, Clinton, and a host of others stood before Congress and told them that “Saddam must be stopped” because they believed that he was attempting to gain nuclear weapons. AND THIS WAS BEFORE GEORGE W. WAS IN OFFICE.”

Big fans of Democrats, then, are you? Big fan of big government?

That only reveals the depths to which AIPAC writes our foreign policy. Saddam didn’t have nuclear weapons and was no where close to them (funny, Pakistan does and we aren’t invading THEM. That choice is the best advertisement of gaining nuclear weapons there is for these countries. Better start paying attention to the signals we are sending because other countries are.). And these same Zionist parasites are the ones hyping up fears about Iran and nuclear weapons! All about war for Israel’s goals and at America’s expense.

“Lets not forget about the yellow cake that even MSN reported many layers down on their website.”

Yellow layer cake? Run for the hills!

“Lets not forget that even Hillary came back from her Iraq Vay-Cay and stated that things weren’t as bad as she thought.”

Big fan of Hillary, are you?

“Everyone talks about the despicable treatment of our Prisoners, but seem to forget the beheadings of our soldiers, reporters, etc.”

You mean people defending their homeland? WE are the invaders. They are like the Wolverines in the movie Red Dawn. Never forget that.

“Oh and BTW those beheadings were done with a knife like cutting off a turkey wing, NOT a nice clean single blow.”

More respectable that some coward that shoots people off a FLIR screen. THESE PEOPLE ARE REAL MEN – that is what frightens you. You KNOW you don’t have the chops to do something like that – to truly face your enemy. Same with the VC.

“You can find the video’s on line. And I am sorry, but I have little sympathy for a few men who were forced to stand around naked.”

How about others in this pig-headed “War on Terror” like described here:
http://www.antiwar.com/reese/?articleid=12744

This is not America. It is what the Zionists wish, though. A hollow, valueless Frankenstein of a country easily manipulated by fear and catch-phrases.

Sgt. Welsh is a liar. Here’s why.

The embedded video is about Afghanistan, NOT Iraq. Obama has made this point multiple times. That we need more troops on the ground in Afghanistan in order to better fight the terrorists there, and that lacking those troops, we’re left to fight an inefficient air war that often leads to civilian casualties. This is in no way, not even a little bit, to suggest that the men and women fighting in Iraq did nothing other than ‘air raid villages and kill innocent civilians.’

Complaining about public misconceptions about the war in Iraq is fair enuf. Lying about the context, not to mention lying about something President Obama said is not. Full stop.

Thank you for saying this, my beloved Stepson has served 3 tours in Iraq and the CAP Cadet I was closest to for years and think of as my own son is there now on his second tour with the Marines and I KNOW they are, have been, will remain good, true, honest Americans who would no more do the things the pissants in Hollywood try to sell us as normal for our soldiers, they are not and never were that kind of people. (Nor was my father who served in the Marines for 20 years from Korea to Vietnam.) Have not seen, and refuse to see any more Hollywood movies about our military until they get it right,thank you for expressing what many of use feel.

The media’s involvement in the war, and ALL topics is well beyond simply reporting the facts. People in this country don’t seem to realize that the days of integrity in reporting and honorable news casters are long gone. From Katie Couric’s “got ya” journalism, to Keith Olberman’s constant blabbering of incoherant crap and calling it news…people are being brainwashed. Just beccause they wear nice suits and have white teeth does not make them news reporters.
From the bottom of my soul I thank all the soldiers in our military who protect this wonderful country. Just yesterday my 18 month old daughter and I spent the day making hand made valentines to send to Iraq.
Please don’t let the naysayers influence you. Liberals are notorious followers, and their leader is simply a “good speaker”.

Dear Sgt. Welsh:

Thank you for your service. May God bless you and watch over you.

Dear Hollywood and the Left:

Let me see if I get this right:

1. After 9/11, it was pretty much unanimous that the Taliban and Al Queda were the #1 threat to the US.

2. After deposing the Taliban, the sights could be set on Al Queda. However, Al Queda is not a country. What to do?

3. There sits Saddam Hussein. In 1991, the US-led coalition, as a condition in ceasing the annihilation of the Iraqi army, agreed to a number of stipulations involving destroying and dismantling any WMD capabilities Iraq had or was pursuing, to be verified by UN inspectors. In the subsequent decade, he repeatedly reneged on this agreement, frustrating WMD inspectors at every turn. As a result of this and information gathered by the intelligence agencies of the US and Britan, it was widely believed, by both Republican and Democrat, the Clintons and the Bushes and our allies across the pond, that Saddam was still harboring WMD capability.

4. Based on this shared belief, President Bush is given authorization by Congress to use military force to depose Saddam. In March 2003, the US military invades Iraq.

5. Though the Iraq army is defeated quickly and Saddam goes into hiding, no WMDs are found in Iraq. While this may be considered a damning indictment of both US and British intelligence agencies (I say ‘may’ because between the time serious consideration began about whether the US would invade Iraq (summer 2002) and the invasion, Hussein had plenty of time to move any WMD to Syria), it does not point to “Bush lied”, as the belief that Iraq had WMDs was rather bi-partisan and unanimous, to the point that one big worry leading up to the invasion was whether Saddam would use chemical weapons against US troops.

6. Instead of deposing Iraq and leaving its people to the mercies of their neighbors or internal strife, the US military stayed and attempted to rebuild Iraq.

7. Almost 4 years of struggle followed, and many believe the war was mishandled. Bush could either cut his losses or find a way to win. He chose the latter. Enter one Gen. David Patreaus. Getting the additional troops he needed to employ a new strategy in Iraq, within a year Al Queda in Iraq had been almost completely annihilated, and Iraq’s govt. announces that 15 of the 18 benchmarks set for being an established constitutional democracy had been met.

Recap: Almost 6 years after invasion, a) a brutal dictator has been deposed, b) the US has rebuilt his mess of a country to the brink of it becoming an established constitutional democracy in Al Queda’s back yard ( a major PR and morale blow to Al Queda ), c) Al Queda has been severely weakened, d) not a single terrorist attack has occurred on American soil, as Al Queda was busy fighting and losing exactly the kind of war they are least equipped to fight (i.e. against trained and equipped soldiers instead of unarmed civilians), e) Osama Bin Laden is neither powerful in life or in death as a martyr, but has been marginalized to point of irrelevancy, and f) all this was accomplished with less US casualties than were suffered on D-Day or 1/10 of the casualties of Vietnam.

Whether or not you opposed the initiating this enterprise (as did I), or whether or not you thought the post-invasion pre-surge period was mismanaged (as did I), to continue to deny the accomplishments of the US military and to deny the success and goodness of the present state of Iraq for both the Iraqi people and the US, to continue to proclaim the situation in Iraq as a colossal failure is be at serious odds with the facts.

Please allow me to interupt the senseless hero-worship to say that CCFK is correct about the snippet of video at the first of this post. It’s lack of context hurts your argument.

I also want to second the opinion of Mr. Blifil in his comment which begins, “Obama has said on numerous occasions that the service is honorable, but the mission is fatally flawed.”

I have family and friends in Irag, people with a great desire to serve their country and help their fellow man. I myself cannot go due to health concerns. (I checked with the local Air Force recruiting office.)

It angers me that our military men and women are being used to further the size of certain people’s pocketbooks rather than to further the cause of freedom. From day one of this mess, America has had more private contractors profiting from the war than U.S. military personel defending our interests.

This unsanity has to stop. But Pres. Obama seems unwilling, perhaps unable, to do anything about the real problem. The American people must demand that this exploitation of our military, our families, our friends, our society and the Iraqi people end.

Leaving hero-worshiping comments on blog rants, calling fellow Americans cowards and wishing death on those we don’t agree with are useless activities. These things ignore the problem, just as Pres. Obama ignores the problem.

Don’t let the ignorant so-and-so’s get you down, including our very ignorant new and inexperienced president who has never been in a combat situation and is rather wet behind those gigantic ears of his. Many people, including me, understand what this war is really about and how important it is that we man-up and not turn tail and run as all yellow bellied neo-libs seem to want to do. President Bush did a great job of sending a ‘don’t mess with the US’ message. Obama is sending a,’we are pansies hear us run’ message. I’d rather be hated and at the top of the food chain that get eaten while I’m acting all warm and fuzzy.

Lola – January 29th, 2009 at 9:39 am

“Terry we get it, your an anti Semite. And frankly your rantings are more fit for Munich circa 1935. And I would bet you don’t even get what I mean by what I said to.”

Anti-Semitism isn’t hating Jews – it is being hated by Jews.

Indeed, look around. The financial situation is much like Germany in 1935 Germany. BTW, in *1933* International Jews declared WAR on Germany. You are just too blind and ignorant to see that same actors are responsible for our own financial crisis. At least Germans woke up to it.

You guys just keep doing your jobs, lookout for your buds, kill the enemy when you get the chance, hit the deck when the motars come and low crawl to the bunker or hole, If it is your time to get it, you can’t do a damn thing about it. If you get visitors (VIPS) tell them you want counter battery fire and detection systems which are available, if you don’t have it get it. It picks up the incoming rounds by radar, sounds a siren, early warning, gives you time to hall ass to the bunker or hole, it send co-ordinates to you counter battery team and they blow the sons of bitches up, should also have gun-ship support to comb the area after you ditermine where the rounds come from, quick reaction force to go in gunning for the gooks on the ground, also neck wound bleeding can be stopped sometimes with direct pressure to the wound, but remember the pressure has to be on both sides of the wound to stop the bleeding as in corotid arterial bleeding, if you are going to pray do it on the way to the bunker or hole just get your ass moving, keep up the good work, cover your six and have fun when you can. I was a combat rescue specialist in Vietnam, medic and gunner on USAF Super Jolly Green Giant, three miniguns two PJ’s, flight engineer/gunner, Pilot, co-pilot and sometime combat photag, we got mortars and rockets at least three times a week at Danang RPVN, 66mm mortars, 122mm soviet rockets{incoming}Katusha, and the largest attack we had 116 impacts, 1 kia, 7 wounded US casualties, counterbattery fire was 175mm and 105mm howitzers, cobra gunships hit the launch area after the attacks, found 16 enemy gooks dead, and search and destroy teams later found almost 100 rockets nearby all 122mm, destroyed in place by c4 by engineers, also lots of blood trails. You guys should do better than we did, we didn’t have armored vest of NVGs or thermal imaging, if you don’t have air support, C130 gunship, or helicopter support, then your officers have their heads up their asses, write your congressman, tell them about the stupidity if they are unwilling to fix it or protect you like you should, the helicopters can also provide air evac in case you do no have med facilities available, tell the old man (CO) that he can also use the choppers to rece the local are for potential sites the enemy might use. Good luck, keep your heads down, pass the amunition, and there are no athiest in the battleground of the foxhole. Vietnam Vet 1971-72

God Bless you Sgt. Welsh and THANK YOU for your herioc service. There are sooo many of us who support not only our troops but what you are doing in Iraq and Afganistan. People who have no understanding of the nature of our current enemy are clueless as to why we fight, where we fight and why it matters. For those who can’t seem to get a grip on why Iraq..read the below link. Hollywood has done an about face over the last 50 years when it comes to supporting our troops during wartime. Hollywood does more damage with ridiculous (box office failures) like Rendition, Redacted, etc. by giving solace to the enemy. For that, I see Liberal Hollywood as MY enemy.

Make sure to scroll down for article once on site

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/236jmcbd.asp

GeronimoRumplestiltskin – January 29th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Dear Sgt. Welsh:

“Recap: Almost 6 years after invasion, a) a brutal dictator has been deposed, b) the US has rebuilt his mess of a country to the brink of it becoming an established constitutional democracy in Al Queda’s back yard ( a major PR and morale blow to Al Queda ), c) Al Queda has been severely weakened, d) not a single terrorist attack has occurred on American soil, as Al Queda was busy fighting and losing exactly the kind of war they are least equipped to fight (i.e. against trained and equipped soldiers instead of unarmed civilians), e) Osama Bin Laden is neither powerful in life or in death as a martyr, but has been marginalized to point of irrelevancy, and f) all this was accomplished with less US casualties than were suffered on D-Day or 1/10 of the casualties of Vietnam.”

a) Actually, he was an elected secular leader. Now they can vote in religious clerics. How does that fit in with your scheme? Musharaff was brutal dictator who led a military coup. Why did we deal with him? OOOOOOHHHH, that’s right, he had a nuke. So, listen up, countries. If you don’t want to be invaded by the US, be sure to beg, borrow, or steal a nuke (Israel choose the latter route by stealing them from us).

b) people still don’t have power and water like they did with Saddam. Even if what you said is correct, it wasn’t worth one American life or one American dollar.

c) We funded Al Queda – we created them. We have created more terrorist due to our actions.

d) The terrorists know of Sun Tsu. Never attack an enemy in the process of self defeat. We are collapsing more every day. Why would they attack us. You imply that somehow a war in Iraq somehow prevents someone coming here and committing at terrorist act. HOW? You go on to say how absurd it would be for them to attack our military. Exactly right. They didn’t before – what makes you say they would start now. Those people defending their country in Iraq are like the Wolverines in Red Dawn. We are the invaders. Would you like it if this country were invaded? Think.

e) funny spin for “getting away with 9/11″ – that is if OBL ever was responsible at all.

f) that was back when we had the resources to spare – not 35 TRILLION in debt.

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Thank You, Sgt. Welch for your service to our country. Please know that many ordinary citizens know and appreciate what our military has done in Iraq , Afghanistan and around the world.
We are outraged that Obama became president on very little information about him and his background and on a whole lot of lies about our President Bush and our military. YOU have kept us safe and done the hard work needed to be done. Mr. Obama has benefited from that and the lies that the media and political campaigns told in order to get him elected.
The ignorance of the electorate along with voter fraud around the country has resulted in a travesty of having a president in the WH now out and about apologizing to the Muslim world for America. This is the outrage ignorance breeds.
We have a long road ahead these next four years and maybe longer to regain integrity and decency in America. A hard job but nothing like our military has endured for our freedom. Free to make ignorant and foolish choices. Thank you from the bottom of our hearts for keeping us free and doing the heavy lifting. We will never forget and we will always revere our military. The finest and most humane in the world.

All appreciation.

Wouldn’t it be cool if our troops invaded Hollywood?!

You rock, Sgt. Welsh!

blueman – January 29th, 2009 at 11:38 am

Are you familiar with the terrorist that murdered kidnapped British soldiers and booby-trapped their bodies? Same ones that blew up a hotel as a terrorist act. They were known as the Irgun and I bet you haven’t even heard of them. But they were rewarded with these and other terrorist acts by being given their own country that is highly subsidized by US and German tax payers.

So, “terrorism works” is the message WE have allowed to be sent by our support of the terrorist state of Israel.

SGT Welsh thank you for your service to this great country and to thousands of innocent people around the world. What you men did over there, and continue to do is GOOD. Pay no attention to the liberals, you know how they like to whine and bitch about everything. There are still millions of people who love you and support you. God Bless

God bless you Sgt. Welsh! I support you and all of America’s troop, and wish you success in all of your missions. Keep giving it to the morons in Hollywood, and keep telling people the truth!
I have a nephew who spent 5 months in Iraq, and is scheduled to go back this summer. I also proudly count myself a member of a group from West Chester PA, who support our troops every week, in opposition to the peace activists who gather there to protest the war. Among us (American Sheepdogs) are vets from different eras, and Blue Star Moms and Dads, as well as others who are simply there to show our support for our brave men and women in the armed forces!

http://americansheepdogs.com/

Sgt. Welsh,

God bless you for your service and dedication. You, and the thousands of other soldiers that demonstrate daily true courage to preserve and promote freedom, are in our prayers nightly.

As for your blog post, it speaks about the issue from a perspective that many of us do not have. We do share your anger and outrage, but I also condition that outrage with optimism. I’ve seen America where it stands now, and 4 years later we were blessed with Ronald Reagan and a renewed spirit of patriotism that I still believe we can return to.

These military expenditures have bankrupted the country and all you clowns in costume can think about is your stupid mission.

Most of us out here wish you all would just shoot yourselfs.

Sgt. Welsh,

Believe me, we are in your corner bro…I have seen those movie clips and they are a joke, especially that punk~ass E~8 talking about his 3 tours…POGS! The movie that really pisses me off though is In the Valley of Elah…I was so enraged by this movie, so insulted and when Tommy Lee Jones raised the colors upside down, I almost puked…

God Bless!

Beau Payne 3rd Ranger Bat, Benning
101st Campbell, Rakassan
93-97

GeronimoRumplestiltskin – January 29th, 2009 at 12:26 pm

“As of today, Al Queda is finished in Iraq,”

They weren’t IN Iraq before (even if they are now). So, we wasted a trillion dollars (with the money flowing to people like Blackwater, Carlyle Group, Halliburton, etc…) and thousands of American lives to do nothing.

I don’t read DailyKos and I am a conservative like Pat Buchanan (and a host of other conservatives opposed to this war for Israel from the start).

Dear Sgt. Welsh,

God’s blessings and our thanks to you and your fellow Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Guardsmen and Marines for your heroic service to our country and for liberating and defending the innocent and defenseless people of Iraq.

Thank you for fighting and defeating America’s evil enemies.

Your disgust at the anti-American cowards’ anger-displacement against our Military is more than justified. I trust you’ll not waste more time on their self-loathing insanities.

I appreciate and share your scorn of irresponsibile movie-makers. Take comfort in the fact that their narcissistic movies were box-office duds for good reason: America rejected them.

Obama’s phenomenon is already fizzling. Events are overtaking him much faster than his acolytes ever fantasized.

As for America’s victory in Iraq — History will, I think, be very good to those such as yourself that kept the faith, while keeping up the fight. Bless you!

I’d love to see Matt Damon challenge you to a debate.

Take care, and keep writing O’ Happy Warrior.

A.S.

Sgt. Welch, I just made my 10th tour overseas to support our warriors with some entertainment. I KNOW how important your work has been….I KNOW history will show you did the right thing with this mission. I believe in you and all that you protect with your bravery and patriotism. You have my thanks, my support and my prayers. I will continue to support you in country and back home….without you we are nothing….certainly not FREE.
Thank you for the sacrafice of yourself and your family.

kurt(the infidel) – January 29th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

“your use of the word oppression when speaking of how Israel is handling the Palestinians is sickening.”

No, their actions are sickening and is condemned worldwide. Only reason you don’t hear about it is because the US media is, for all practical purposes, owned and run by Zionists.

“how would you like to have thousands of unguided missiles flying towards your city?”

How would you like for China to start building colonies on US soil? Think they might be attacked? Well, how is that different that the land Israel illegally occupies?

“Hamas deserves what they get.”

I bet you don’t even know that Israel broke the cease fire and was in violation of UN resolution 242? Did you? CNN does.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KntmpoRXFX4

“i guess you think genocidal tyrants awesome.”

Apparenly genocide by the Israelis is fine, though???? You have inconsistent views.

Please don’t ever ban the likes of Terry or MRblifil or Harley. It’s always good to see what stupidity and hatred look like. Anti-semitism lives on the left.

I find it funny that placing America first causes such hysteria among the brainwashed here. It has been all but eliminated from our media and you guys don’t seem to have any context so you flail around accusing me of being on both the “Right” and the “Left.” You do know why they call what is on TV “programming” don’t you? LOL! You guys are definitely programmed. I stopped watching it and can see clearly.

Here is a great 10 minute video on how the “left/right” thing is a distraction.

http://www.wimp.com/thegovernment

My Awesome Mix Tape #6 – January 29th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

“All I could think was that those men lying on the floor, begging God to stop the morters were someone’s son, brother, husband.”

And if not for a cabal of “dual citizens” within our government with names like “Wolfowitz” and “Perle” those men would not be in a foreign country fighting a war for Israel. And we would likely not be watching our country collapse under the weight of these senseless wars.

“Every person who walks freely in this great country should be required to watch this video and only then should they be allowed to oppose our men and women who are protecting us.”

Considering freedom in THIS country is rare nowadays, you may have to change your statements. What this is all about – training and desensitizing Americans to military occupation so it can be implemented in the US (NorthCOM) – is more apparent every day. Our military, in violation of Posse Comitatus, is being used for CHECKPOINTS INSIDE THE US!

“I can almost guarantee there would be a lot more patriotic folks walking about after witnessing that horror.”

Yeah, should make people want to clear our troops out of this war for Israel and save our OWN country first. No war for Israel. No war against Iran.

“There are not enough words to thank you and your fellow soldiers for all that you have done to protect us and our wonderful country.”

That war has only WEAKENED America. Get your priorities straight.

Kit – January 29th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Terry,

What do you mean by “dual-citizens?”

+++++++++++

Citizens of two countries – in this case Israel. Foolishly, the US does not forbid dual citizens from serving in our government. No other country allows this to my knowledge. You don’t see Americans running Israel’s government but we sure see a lot of Israelis running ours and subsequently we fight wars for them, give them tons of money, turn a blind eye to their espionage, etc….

Jack Bauer:

All I can say this this: you have have managed to do the impossible by forcing me to side with TERRY on something. This should give you a hint on how much of an idiot you are being.

“What a despicable attitude.”

Um, remind me again, which one of you is the idiot doing the drive-by flaming?

“How can you justify this illegal war in Afghanistan?”

Probably using the EXACT same ways we justified our WWII attacks on the Vichy Regime’s colonies: they provide logistical aid to our enemies, they should not be surprised by retaliation.

“Afghanistan NEVER attacked the US.”

Petain and Laval never attacked the Western Allies in WWII.

They just funneled money and staging areas to those who DID.

Nice strawman.

“No Afghani was on-board the four planes on 9/11.”

And no Frenchman fought alongside the Germans and the Iraqi nationalists in Iraq against the British in an effort to sever the Egypt-India connection (and, given the VERY high percentage of Germans marked down as “Frenchmen”, chances are not many of them fought against us in Madagascar, Trans-Jordan, or Morocco EITHER). They “Only” granted the Germans logistical support to sustain the attack.

Not unlike what the Taliban did.

Please come again.

“Yet you blithely want to send terror into the poor people of Afghanistan.”

Right. Ask how many of them would LIKE the Taliban back.

If you need suggestions scheduling the polling, may I suggest that you try and squeeze it in after you poll Iraqi teenagers on what brands of kite were the most popular under Saddam?

“More troops to kill innocent Afghanis.”

And this is a sad reality of war that cannot be avoided. The thing you avoid mentioning is most of the “innocent Afghanis” that are actually, you know, INNOCENT are killed by their fellow Afghanis the Taliban and by foreign Islamists- our FOES. That, and they can get away with doing such reprisals willy-nilly against such “collaborators” while we actually PERSECUTE those in our ranks who attack the “innocent Afghanis” and RIGHTLY SO, I might add.

But you just don’t get that, do you?

“You sir, are are a disgusting WAR MONGER.”

Awww, they are so cute when they TYPE IN ALL CAPS IN THE HOPE THAT IT MAKES UP FOR THEIR LACK OF PROOF BY OFFENDING THE RECIPIENT, aren’t they?

“Shame on you and your ilk.”

Well, Mr. Bauer, let me show you that two can play this game.

No sir, shame on YOU for being a KNAVE, an IDIOT, an APPEASER OF TERRORISTS, and an ILLITERATE FOOL who has absolutely NO grasp of history, warfare, diplomacy, or COMMON SENSE, and who merely is a LOUD, ARROGANT BLOW HARD incapable of making an argument of any depth whatsoever.

(See? I can do it too! And I did it far more effectively then you did!)

“I’m going to assume you’re a war mongering jerkoff.”

Ah, more trademark civility. Look at the things that they are teaching to Preschoolers these days!

As for you, I will have to assume that you are a stupid, idiotic, terrorist-rooting swine who probably cannot find Kabul on a map.

“I want to know why it okay by you to invade Afghanistan and kill Afghanis when they had nothing to do with 9/11?”

Ah, the “take one unfortunate effect of event X and use it to completely smear event X” strategy. Very nice strategy, seeing as how it protects you from, you know, actually having to make an ARGUMENT.

As for the response, I will have to respond that yes, yes it is “Okay” to invade Afghanistan and kill Afghanis when they had nothing to do with 9/11.

And before you go off on a rant about how you have found an evidence of “NeoKon bloodlust”, I will point out that no, it is not a GOOD thing, no more then it was “good” to have thousands of children in Hiroshima be incinerated instantly by the Bomb, or to have to be forced to kill thousands of crippled German grandfathers press-ganged into the Volksturm by their Fuhrer as the “Last Line” of defense.

But, as terrible as those things, be it the deaths of innocent Afghani farmers, innocent Japanese schoolgirls, or innocent German retirees, it is something that must be weathered through. Because, however ugly those things are it does NOT invalidate our cause or the reasons we fight (particularly given the discipline we impose on our soldiers, unlike those of our foes). So, as tragic as they may be, I must say that, yes, they are “Okay” if it means that we can purge Berlin of both Hitler’s cabal and the old military aristocracy, that YES, it is “Okay” if it means breaking the Japanese Empire and its barbaric Bushido code into pieces that it never can reforge, and that YES, it is “Okay” if Afghanistan can be turned in to a flowering Democracy in Central Asia, having been purged of the factions and forces that have given aid and comfort to our enemies in ways that have helped to claim American lives at home, abroad, and those of our allies at home and abroad.

So, let me phrase your “question” in a different light: “I want to know why it is okay to bury our heads in the sand while a tyrannical and theocratic faction gives aid to our sworn foe and kills innocent Afghanis, Americans, Britishmen, Italians, Israelis, etc. Who are in no way connected to the crusades, to the fall of the Moors on the Iberian, and to the WWI destruction of Ottoman Turkey after a DIRECT attack on our homeland by forces affiliated by the aforementioned group?”

See, not so clear-cut now, is it?

“Come on, tell me why you should send more US troops to a country that has never attacked the US?”

Let me think here: The king of Swaziland is being an authoritarian A**hole, and has been ruthlessly crushing his people to maintain his lavish and feudal lifestyle, so perhaps it would be only humane to depose him and help Swaziland become a Democracy?

Oh, wait, you are “implying” that the country is Afghanistan.

Well,

Perhaps because the leadership of that country helped to fund, train, and give shelter to Osama Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda, who are our sworn foes who attacked us and killed roughly 3,000 people on American soil in a terrorist attack on a CIVILIAN target?

Perhaps because the nation is run by kleptocratic, theocratic, and tyrannical goons who have repeatedly declared Holy War on ourselves and the entire West?

Perhaps because there was a chance of apprehending the man directly responsible for an attack on us who was hiding their with the regime’s approval?

Pick one or more of the above.

“Nor ONE Afghani was ionvolved in the plot to murder 3000 Americans”

That depends on what you define as the “plot” persee, and whether or not “ionvolved” has a different meaning from “involved.”

Perhaps you are (in a VERY narrow sense) correct that not a single Afghani held council with Bin Laden or Atta on the exact stratagems to employ on the attack.

And if “ionvolved” is defined as “To play the Spanish fiddle in a Portuguese musical,” then I could easily see how no Afghani was “ionvolved” in the plot.

But I am guessing that, somehow, “ionvolved” means the same thing as “involved.”

In which case, that is a VERY narrow definition of “involved.”

The fact is that the Taliban gave aid, food, and training to the September 11th hijackers, that they helped funnel money and material to them, and that they have a long and distinguished history with the head of the organization that did the plot: Osama Bin Laden.

So, in short, SEVERAL DOZEN Afghanis tied to the Regime AT LEAST were involved with the plot DIRECTLY (and I am not counting those who must have been indirectly involved with the plot).

Hell, that’s better justification then we EVER had for going after the Vichy regime!

But somehow, the fact that no Afghani was “Ionvolved” by playing the Cello to the Portuguese adaptation of Figaro’s Wedding somehow invalidates the casus belli.

Perhaps you are a bit too passionate about the opera if you think THAT overrides diplomatic and political realities?

“Why are you cheerleading like some cowardly chickenhawk for more collateral damage that you know will occur.”

Firstoff, how do you know what a Cowardly Chickenhawk looks like cheerleading? Surely their wings are difficult to fit into Pompon? Which brings me to my next question: how do you know WHEN a Cowardly Chickenhawk is cheerleading? Surely they have too much stage fright to do it in the presence of others? and even more so, is there a difference in cheerleading when a Cooper’s Hawk does it from when a Sharp-Shinned Hawk or a Red-Tailed Hawk does it?

The inquiring minds of the next generation of great Ornithologists wish to know!

In addition. as for the idea of any of us cheering for more collateral damage, I doubt ANY of us would. But the fact is that, even in the cleanest of wars against a somewhat restrained or honorable foe, these things are inevitable. And we are NOT fighting a restrained or noble foe. But that we recognize this fact and encourage the mission does not mean we relish it, but that we grimly accept it as the cost each generation has paid to live in Freedom and to spread freedom.

Apparently, that concept is beyond you.

“More innocent men, women and children will die in Afghanistan.”

For ONCE, you are right. And it is something that sincerely troubles me. However, what you fail to notice is that these poor souls will fall in far greater numbers to our ruthless and unjust foes then to us, and that they already HAD been perishing by the thousands for YEARS BEFORE the invasion, due to the Taliban’s theocratic rule.

And yet you claim that this somehow discredits us?

“Explain that to me. Do you support invading Pakistan as well”

If the time comes that Pakistan becomes a clear and present threat to the West, to America, and to our Freedoms either directly or through aid to those that are, then yes I would.

“setting the Muslim world aflame”

If that is what must be done, then let it be done. But I sincerely hope it does not require that.

“Before you start call others a LIAR”

Too late, Arsehat.

“defend your war mongering”

Already have.

“chickenhawk”

Since I am neither a bird nor someone unfamiliar with the rigors of conflict, I get the impression you are talking about someone else.

The fact is that you have made yourself to look like a ranting, raving idiot who has no grasp of the realities on the ground.

And the fact that you make TERRY look saner shows how badly you are doing in convincing everyone.

(And don’t worry Terry, It’ll be your turn soon enough).

Okay … I’m trying this again … Without the “cussage” to see if it takes … Please forgive if my previous comment shows up after I post this one:

I am acquainted with Sgt. Welsh and other fine and brave and selfless young men who have served this nation in our military before and since 9-11-01.

About a year ago a young man (an Army Ranger) who was a childhood friend of my son-in-law was killed in Iraq by a filthy terrorist’s sniper bullet.

A couple years before that, another of his childhood friends a Marine, lost his leg to a filthy terrorist’s mortar shell fired into their housing facility as he slept. Ironic how that Marine says he can sleep comfortably with the loss of his leg to a dirty b*stard enemy rat, yet, it’s the bullsh*t attempts to wound and injure and emotionally kill our troops here at home by the very people he and the other servicemen have given all to protect that causes the greatest restlessness.

I have several other young Marines (and Soldiers) I know and love and admire that have served this country since signing up AFTER 9-11-01, and AFTER the initial Iraq invasion … and have served multiple tours in country, one nearly losing his life on his second tour … only to request, post-healing, to be sent back.

I have also become friends of the families of these fine men and women, some of which have lost their loved ones in war. Their understanding and sacrifice leaves me in complete awe, and envy for that level of spirit and strength.

These men, and women, have done nothing wrong. They, if anything, have put their own safety and lives in second or third consideration in order to NOT insult or harm (a kinder, gentler, more compassionate war) the ‘innocents’ in Iraq (and Afghanistan) … Had they fought this war the way war was intended to be fought, the ‘collateral damage and lost lives’ would be countless. Historically it is one of the lowest … if not the lowest loss of lives, military and civilian, with far less destruction than could ever have been hoped for.

The democrats and the MSM (AND Hollywood) in this country have not bothered to use that ‘consideration’ when negatively reporting on, making asinine statements on the Floor(s) of our Congress, and in agenda-driven and hastily fictionalized depictions in film. No one is more bloodstained than you people … with the blood of our troops and the blood of innocent Iraqis. Your bullsh*t caused this war to go on longer and deadlier than need be.

As an American I can never begin to repay the men such as Sgt. Welsh, Sgt. Dan B****n, Sgt. Jason G*****, Cpl. Bennie D****n, Sgt. Carl D****s, “Smitty”, “T-Bagg”, “Iggy”, Pvt. Wilson, and all the rest of the young men who put aside their freedom to be young and carefree … and careless … in order to serve a higher calling … to voluntarily put their very lives on the line for a country they believe is worth sacrificing for … to recognize and believe in something bigger and greater than themselves.

And it sickens me to know that they cannot even put their heads down on a pillow at night to rest peacefully in the freedom they themselves have fought and bled to preserve … simply because people so much smaller than themselves … people they also defended … have a mental disorder and inability to “handle the truth”, and instead, in the safety and freedom of their own fabricated comfort zones, slander, demean and defile men who have continued to provide and protect that decadent luxury they afford themselves from afar.

In the last eight years I have come to realize the core source for all this sh*t-slinging on our troops comes from the individual sh*t-slinger’s jealousy upon recognizing they aren’t even worthy to shine the boots of these men. They lack the intestinal and testicular fortitude to actually make the decision to face evil and danger for a concrete cause greater than to recycle or not to recycle that damn aluminum can.

And finally, it REALLY irks me … no, it f**kin’ pisses me off, that Sgt. Welsh even had to write this piece.

Those who malign him and our military are the same damn dumb-f*ck-ups that insist that child rapists, or murderers “served their time and paid their debts to society” and should be left alone to live wherever without warning signs to the community … and believe that those f*cking human sh*t-stains sitting fat on the American hog in Camp Gitmo are worthy of kindness, consideration and compassion.

These brave, selfless men (and women) HAVE served their time and paid their ‘debt’ to this country’s freedom and liberty so YOU can pursue your mindless and selfish happiness, at their expense … physically and emotionally.

And P.S.

The fact that Hollywood’s movies in the last eight years depicting these men in the war have fallen headfirst into the rotting sh*tter is proof that Hollywood and the limo-lib left in this country LOST the war.

Welsh, THEY sleep safe and well at night because YOU and your brothers did/do the damn hard work to make sure they can.

Ya did good, Sgt. Welsh … Ya did f***in’ DAMN good. You beat the enemy, and you beat Hollywood, the MSm, and the democrats! Put your head down on the pillow and take a long and peaceful nap. You earned it, you deserve it. And you know me, as I always say: F*** `Em!

Hey, Welsh … Thanks, sweetie. I owe ya a few beers.

Maggie

You KNOW its a bad thread when not one, but TWO people override Terry in regards to “Fisking Priority.”

Here we go,

Carolina Yankee:

“I am a conservative.”

Your comments make me question as to what STRIPE of that you are.

“I support our men and women in uniform, and I’m damned grateful that they’ve chosen to serve and protect our nation. I am mindful of the sacrifices these brave people have been called upon to make, and I’m proud of the way in which they’ve conducted themselves under very trying circumstances. Our military is staffed with dedicated and top notch patriots who deserve the utmost respect from every citizen of the USA.”

While this is all very nice and lovely, it would be that much more convincing if it came from someone who actually sounds like they RESEARCHED anything.

“However I believe the mission our soldiers were ordered to undertake in Iraq was wrong.”

And, as any lawyer or Scientist will tell you, Believing does not equal what IS.

“Iraq had no WMD’s or any facilities to make them”

Obviously, somebody has not studied the Al-Anfal Campaign, the Iran-Iraq War, or the testimony of pretty much every one of Saddam’s Baath party bigwigs or most of the intel services on the planet (Including those who OPPOSED the invasion).

And this is while ignoring the many OTHER points on the Docket to justify the invasion.

“nor was Iraq harboring or associated with any Al-Queda”

BZZZZTTTTTT! Wrong Answer. Intel from everybody ranging from the Turks, to Us, to the Iranians, to Egypt, to France, to Canada, to Oman pointed out that Saddam was funding and providing aid to many Islamist groups, including several groups tied to Zawahiri and Bin Laden (including one particularly nasty group in Yemen whose name eludes me for now, but whom I doubtless will remember).

“or Iranian”

Now THAT I can believe.

“Saddam’s secularist Baath Party government hated the Islamic fundamentalist world view of Al-Queda and the medieval mullahs in Iran as much as we do.”

And Hitler and Stalin DESPISED each other to no end. And the Protestants and their French Catholic allies during the 30 Year’s War would have almost certainly have been just as happy to slit each other’s throats as they were to fight against Austria and Spain. Didn’t stop either of those two examples from getting along just merrily until the alliance ceased to be useful. The same situation is now playing itself out in Syria, where Assad (ALSO of that secular Baath PArty) has been funneling Islamists across the border to us and the Israelis like it’s gonna go out of style. This hasn’t seriously destabilized the regime, and if anything has STRENGTHENED IT by ridding the country of the young, zealous converts who, if deprived of another target, would likely come after Assad himself.

I believe Totten said that Assad and his far more imposing father took great pains to make sure that those issues are “for export only.”

And there is more evidence from pretty much every spy network worth its salt that Saddam was pulling the exact same gimmick.

“In short, there was no justification for our invasion of Iraq.”

You REALLY haven’t read the Gulf War Ceasefire, have you? UN Resolutions regarding Iraq? Our stated justification for going to war?

If not, then how would you know? As you have pointed out repeatedly, you can’t. and don’t.

“Nor was there any justification for the occupation of defeated Iraq.”

Oh, you mean BESIDES helping to establish a Democratic Iraq, eliminating the problem we left after the First Gulf War, and preventing the Islamists from moving in and taking control directly? If anything there is more to justify our presence in Iraq after Saddam then there was to justify the invasion (and THAT, coupled with the number of justifications we can pile up to dispose Saddam, should tell you something!).

“The American people never agreed to multi-year post war presence in Iraq.”

Ah, yes, the American people. Note to Carolina Yankee: The US is not a direct democracy, and for VERY good reasons. Also, keep in mind that the “American People” never agreed to carpet bomb Germany and Japan, to intervene to prevent Korea and Vietnam from being overrun, or to ensure that Imperial Germany would be sufficiently reformed after WWI.

Those things alone should reveal how fickle and thin that cheap line is.

“The whole idea to go in light and get out fast, ala the Gulf War of ‘91, right?”

And THIS is where you are obviously incompetent at juding military and political goals. The idea was NOT to “go in light and get out fast.” It was commonly agreed that it would be NICE to do that, but not at the cost of implementing the ACTUAL “whole idea”: To get thing RIGHT this time, unlike what happened after WWI and the First Gulf War.

“And I can’t believe that any American family would’ve knowingly agreed to undertake this task if the knew even an inkling of the emotional/financial cost to be endured of having a loved one and/or breadwinner undertaking multiple deployments in harms way.”

Which is why Thomas Paine took great time to wax poetic about the “value” of Sunshine Patriots. The fact is that he who can outlast the enemy has often won. If this had not happened in WWI, Democracy would almost certainly have been squished out in Europe at the hands of a tyrannical and belligerent Imperial Germany while the rest of it abroad would have been living on borrowed time.

Had we failed to do that later in WWII, the consequences would have been even worse.

And, when we crumpled and ran from Vietnam (pathetically reciting many of the VERY SAME THINGS you so blithely state now) the bloodshed not only crushed any movement towards democracy in Indochina, but also might have threatened to endanger Democracy here, as the USSR’s war council examined American weakness and came VERY close to approving an attack against us. It was only luck that that vote did not go through, which gave us time to recover.

The fact is that those who do not value freedom enough to fight for it IN SPITE OF the cost will often find that it is stripped from them. Before the German Westward offensives of 1940, France was infamously racked by pacifism, including those who viewed Germany as being only seeking what was just for it and those who viewed capitulation as better then another War. I believe one of these individuals loudly questioned “Do you want to die for Danzig?” Of course nobody would want to for some miserly port city in Poland wracked by ethnic infighting. But the question more accurate of the situation was “Are you willing to die for Danzig?” Which asks if one is willing to fight and die, even when one does not want to, for the sake of saving those few Poles and their freedom on the other side of Europe.

Unfortunately, several months later, the answer was clear: no. Not was nobody but the Poles and the Germans willing to die for Danzig, but nobody but the Danes were willing to die for Copenhagen, nobody but the Norweigians willing to die for Oslo, nobody but the Finns wiling to die for Helsinki, and the list goes on.

And, pretty soon, it became clear that nobody was willing to die to protect Rotterdam, Amsterdam , Liege, Brussels, Sedan, or Paris.

And, if you are not willing to die to defend your home city, do you think you would be willing to do so for those handful of Jews living oin your corner?

It was only Churchil, DeGaulle, and a hodge-podge group of exiles who declared that they WERE willing to die for Danzig, for Warsaw, for Copenhagen, for Oslo, for Helsinki, for Amsterdam, for Rotterdam, for Liege, Tours, Athens, Sedan, Paris, Salonika, and several other cities that they probably had never ever been to, for people (like those Parisian Jews on the corner) that they would never meet.

It is only due to the forces of fate and chance that we know that they were right.

And now it is time for the West to re-learn that painful lesson.

“The Iraq invasion was based upon a canard concocted by an administration”

As well, apparently, as most of the world’s intelligence agencies, Saddam’s own bureaucrats, the UN, NATO, and several anti-War individuals, including Hans Blix (who admitted that our charges were mostly just, but that we should have given more time to the ineffective sanctions).

“either hell bent on gaining control of Iraq regardless of the cost, or an administration incapable of conducting a vetting process no more complex than what is asked of a grammar school student writing a book report.”

So which is it, evil genius or stupid idiot? Think on that, because those two are usually not complimentary. Oh yes, and that would be a very tough grammar school, would it not, if it is not satified by the mountain of evidence physically recorded, compiled by our Intelligence, foreign intelligence (including those opposed to us, like Iran) and admitted by Saddam and Co themselves. What more would they want for such a book report, the unanimous approval of all the gods on Mount Olympus?

“Remember the Internet “yellow cake” hoax offered by Secretary Powell as proof of Saddam’s intention to acquire a nuclear arsenal?”

No, I do not. I DO, however, remember a British report detailing Saddam’s attempts to buy Yellow Cake from Niger that Powell bandied about. But that wasn’t a hoax.

“Was that the best our government investigative agencies could do?”

Actually, no that wasn’t. The best OUR government investigative agencies could do was to send an ambassador with no intelligence training or standing and to have him try to go through official channel find out before promptly retaliating when his incompetence was found out.

It was the BRITISH who provided that particular info.

“Would they have fallen for the Bank of Liberia hoax too?”

Given the incompetent performance of American intelligence before, I wonder the same thing.

“It’s absurd!”

For ONCE, I agree with you.

“Our nation was coerced into this Iraqi misadventure by politicians”

Many of whom had the suriname of “Hussein.”

“who either lied to our faces for their own sinister reasons, or who were too damned stupid to exercise the fact finding skills we expect from ten year old children.”

Given the incompetence of the Hussein Regime in Iraq, I must say that either of those two are very possible. But, in any event, their numerous tripups were even worse then ours were, and even the UN admitted we had the charges right, but that we were “Rushing” to action.

“Over the years the rational for this war has changed”

Not really. Our Rational for the invasion has remained virtually unchanged from the start, and it is still around if you had any interest in serious research.

As for the rational for STAYING in-country, you are right. But only because facts on the ground change, and so does the strategic rational (for instance, Allied rational for the war in Korea altered frequently as the battle lines changed, but that does not mean the previous rationals were false).

“as each new reason offered as justification has been exposed as false.”

Obviously, not to the extent you seem to think, as you have failed to get ONE single point on that issue correct.

“Now we’re being told that we’re nation building in Iraq.”

And you think that isn’t true? Good luck finding the proof for that!

“Constructing a nation out of the disparate and hostile tribal remnants of empire that have only known political unity at the point of a tyrant’s sword since the Abbasid Caliphate of Baghdad was created in the late Eighth Century.”

Oooh, nice attempt to use historical gobeldegook to try and make a point. But even that is inaccurate, as the first time it was ACTUALLY united under a tyrant’s sword was the Neo-Assyrian Empire. Nice try though.

And another thing: France and Germany were both undemocratic nations until three two centuries ago for the first one (in name, less then 200 in fact) and just over sixty for the latter (and this is not counting the fact that the country was not united), and that Chinese history was largely a history of Imperial and royal dynasties for several millenia until 1911? The fact is that, however impressive your attempts to sound serious may be, the fact is that there is a first for everything and that much is unthinkable until it actually happens for the first time.

“Throughout this whole ordeal, our troops have conducted themselves admirably. They deserve our respect for the outstanding manner in which they’ve risen to crisis upon crisis, all the while upholding the ideals upon which our nation was founded.”

So, respect the troops, but don’t trust any of the reports or evidence they dig up? It must be remembered that most of the evidence found relating to Iraq’s WMD programs, its violations of the UN, etc, was literally dug out for the first time or at the very least confirmed by the troops.

Some of the very same evidence you seem to think doesn’t exist. So, are the Troops noble, gullible fools, or noble, scheming liars?

“They also deserve our understanding and comfort for the callous way their noble idealism been abused by those political creatures too crooked or too stupid to have ever been given authority to command them.”

I agree, though I get the impression that it would not be in the same sense you mean that as.

“The sergeant is right, Hollywood has disrespected the American soldier. Lefties call our troops mindless killers because they themselves are too stupid to understand the difference in responsibility between the hammer and the hand that wields it.”

To play devil’s advocate, can they not be excused from that when it appears that you yourself have difficulty understanding the difference?

“Screw the lefties!”

No comment.

“Yet we conservatives have been idiots too.”

Yes, we have, though not on the things you seem to want to call us out on.

“We’ve allowed our respect and devotion to the admirable men and women serving in our military to blind us to the inexcusable manner in which the idealism of our valiant troops has been misused by the liars and/or fools that we’ve elected to command them.”

While the latter part of that sentence is sure to draw some laughs from this crowd given the date (though not from I), you once again fail to notice that, in order for all the forgeries you seem to love calling us out on to be false, we have to disregard the large volumes of evidence coming in from all levels of the troops. How do we mesh this out? Ad they noble liars or noble fools, according to you? Because, the fact is that , for an operation of this scale, there must be an active participation from the troops you (justly) wax poetic about. So, are they liars or fools? Which one?

“In the final analysis Sgt. Welsh, it isn’t the libbies in Tinseltown who’re responsible for all of the justifiable angst your service to your country has created in your soul.”

That is true. My personal guess is on the Jihadists.

“We conservatives are equally responsible,”

By ‘we’, you are reffering to yourselves and other likeminded individuals who go around and make claims long on ranting and short on evidence that insinuate that the troops are liars taking part in a coverup or fools duped by an unscrupulous administration?

If that is so, then I might grudgingly agree with you.

However, that is probably not the case.

“if not more so for your righteous anger.”

And you think you are helping the matter by attacking his mission and either his personal integrity or his intelligence (if not both?).

“We’re your parents, your aunts and uncles,”

That would be a rather imbred family, I must note.

“your teachers, your wise old sages down at the corner gas station.”

Given the quality drop I have noticed in both areas, I am not sure you want to claim that as a PLUS.

“We should’ve known better than to have allowed you to be so callously used. We should’ve never let your desire to serve your country and to do what’s right, combine with our own desire for revenge after 9/11.”

And can you tell me how those two parts are any more different from the desire to do what is right and the drive for revenge against Japan following Pearl Harbor? Because, if not, you have only succeeded in digging yourself further in the hole.

“We abrogated the responsibility we have as citizens of this nation thoughtfully”

Yes, we have. Though not in the way I think you think it means.

“prudently and compassionately use the tremendous power of our military might.”

Perhaps you would like heading to Iraq to tell the poor souls we fished out of Saddam’s torture rooms about how we failed to “prudently and compassionately use the tremendous power of our military might?”

Because something tells me that they may hold a slightly different opinion on that matter then you do.

“Relying instead upon the say-so of those whom we elected to exercise this power”

Point taken.

“abandoning the responsibility we all have of questioning their fitness or basic intelligence to exercise this awesome power.”

In some cases, that is just. However, given the poor factual basis, the lack of evidence or research, and the ignorant conspiracy theories you have spouted, you might not want to open that particular can of worms.

“The leftie loonies in La-La-Land aren’t the only ones deserving of your contempt sergeant. They have a lot of company in that Hall of Shame because all of us conservatives are in there with ‘em.”

Yes indeed. You have CERTIANLY demonstrated the truth of that statement to him (though, again, not in the way I think you want to.)

“I can only speak for myself”

Which leads me to wonder where you got the “we”s you used previously from.

“and maybe I’m fulla beans”

Medicinally, that is unlikely. Allegorically, though, that is certain.

“but sergeant you are your fellow soldiers deserved a lot better from us than you’ve received.”

Again, I agree with you on that much.

“And speaking strictly for myself, I’m sorry.”

If I thought for half a second that was to apologize for the tremendous load of tripe that lies above that sentence as well as the attitude of the country in general, I would agree with your sentiment.

As it is, I will only wonder how long our Republic can hope to last with fools to the Left of me, Fools to the Right, and murderous Knaves that the two sides refuse to see staring right ahead, their swords already bloodied and ready for use on us.

Welsh and The Ghost Behind You

Thank You!

I hope I can live a life that reflects the honor of men like you and all those who wear the uniforms of this great nation.

Thank you Sgt. Welch and all other members of the armed forces

The media will always try and make money off of true patriots.
It’s nice to see a lot of them going out of business.
Not everyone in the US has partaken of the “kool-aid.”

Semper Fi

Welsh –

Great post. You have every right to be upset with the way the military has been treated by the elitist left in Hollyweird.

I can’t speak highly enough of individuals like you and Pat, Michael and Andrew that are doing so much to get the truth out to the masses.

Thank you and God Bless.

Terry — man, please get some counseling or some help. Do you have a close friend you can talk to? (maybe an elderly one that is deaf) I am a healthcare provider and I can tell you, seriously, you are on your way to a heart attack.

Sgt. Welsh — you sir cannot be thanked enough not only for your service to our nation but for speaking up and being a voice that has not been heard enough. God bless you for bravery on both counts.

Nice work The Almighty Turtle.

A wonderful history lesson, by history I mean not to many years ago.
Perhaps a little opinionated against some well meaning people but factually accurate.

In college I had a professor ask if any one could give justification for invading Iraq. Strangely enough it was in an English class. I sighted the UN’s sanction 15… something or other. I put forth the argument that the world had spoken and all intelligence data had pointed to Iraq having WMD’s. Granted we gave them most of their WMD’s.

As most Americans know having a right leaning perspective in college is a tough road to hoe. I bit the bullet and put in my two cents, to the gasps of students because of the symbolism of my long hair.

The UN and a majority of all other countries agreed that Iraq should be dealt with. It goes with out saying that the UN is big on talk and short on action.

My professor asked, since I was the only one willing to give a reason, what happens if we find out that Iraq doesn’t have WMD’s. I responded that the Iraq’s would be better off in the long run in spite of bad information.

While the media talks about all the civilian casualties because of the invasion they pale in comparison to the casualties brought on by its leader Saddam Hussein. The media seems to forget that Saddam was great at killing his own country men and women. The atrocities he committed upon his own country are staggering and quickly forgotten.

As a side note pay no attention to Corky Thatcher… he’s special.

Thanks again Sgt. Welch and all other military men and women serving our country. God Speed

My profound apologies for spelling your name wrong Sgt. Welsh….

Sincerely,

A bad speller

A thousand apologies for spelling your name wrong Sgt. Welsh, I have a friend with the last name Welch.

“Hardball, you’re missing the point. Tho’ given the feeding frenzy on this thread, that’s to be expected. Obama’s point is not that difficult to understand. Until we get an adequate number of troops on the ground in Afghanistan, we’re forced to fight an air war that leads to greater civilian casualties. By definition. Obama’s hardly the only person to make this point, a number of generals have said the same thing. Suggesting that comment was made about Iraq is disingenuous. Suggesting that Obama thinks we’re bombing innocent civilians on purpose is worse than disingenuous, it’s intentionally stupid.

And ironically? The only person here who seems to yearn for the Soviet Union and the ability to restrict someone’s free speech? That would be you.

Weird how that works out.”

I couldn’t have said it any better myself.

Hey Terry -

What you took the time to tear apart, line by line, was my OPINION. Last I checked, even with “The One” in office, I was still allowed to speak my mind freely.

You have no business trying to tell me how my opinion is wrong. As I have no right to do so in return.

You are NOT, nor will you EVER be, my AUTHORITY. Even my husband knows that the only authority to which I accept disapproval of my opinion would be that of God Himself.

What I don’t understand is why you don’t go somewhere where your opinion is appreciated and championed? Surely there are plenty of sites that would find you a kindred spirit.

You must be a terribly lonely soul to enjoy coming back here over and over again. And I’m betting somewhere in your past you were taught to treat others in such the manner in which you treat people here on Big Hollywood. Memories of an overbearing mother or father yelling at you nose to nose, telling you that you are worthless perhaps? For that, my heart goes out to you. I’ve met a lot of damaged people in my life who always seem so ready for a fight. For that you should seek therapy.

Don’t go away mad though Terry, just go away.

Donna V. – January 29th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Hey, Terry, look at what George Washington, the Father of Our Country, said about the J33ws:

May the Children of the Stock of Abraham, who dwell in this land, continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other Inhabitants; while every one shall sit under his own vine and fig tree, and there shall be none to make him afraid.
=====

Note, he didn’t say US tax payers should be enslaved and make themselves targets by propping up a fascist homeland for said people. What you say has no bearing at all on the phoney UN creation of “Israel.”

He also warned about foreign entanglements.

So, who else gets a US taxpayer subsidized homeland? Where is the homeland exclusively for Whites that is paid for by US tax payers?

Thank you for your sacrifice and service, Sargeant. I appreciate you more than you will ever know.

Welsh, just like not all Marines are heartless baby killers, not all of us American citizens are mindless zombies that believe everything the man on TV says. For those of us who believed in you and wanted you to succeed, there were plenty of non-traditional outlets to get our news.

Hollywood might portray you as the villain and Democrats might portray you as “victims” needed to be saved from Evil George W. But, at least half of the country had your back. I will leave it to you to figure out which half that was.

Sgt Welsh, thank you & your fellow men & women in arms for your service. What you did will never be forgotten. Don’t let those fools from La La Land speak for an entire country. There are millions of us who support you & what you have done. We always have & we always will. From the bottom of my heart, I thank you for protecting our way of life, and most importantly, protecting our freedom.

Terry, The Almighty Turtle or which ever talking head you are at the moment:

You dear sir or madame also need to seek therapy and/or return to whatever meds you have decided are no longer necessary.

Most important fact or opinion (your choice) I will leave you with is this: GET A LIFE.

Mr. Blifil:

“Utter bs.”

Please do not be so hard on yourself. “And I dare you to post some links that aren’t funded by the moonies to attempt to substantiate your baseless drivel. ”

Hardly any more baseless then your drivel, and- before I give you any links at all, I want you to give me a clear definition of a source that is properly “pure” for you. Because I won’t go around putting up half a dozen links trying to appease your vague qualifier when I can ask you to do so first.

I sincerely ask for you to do so.

“In what way tied?” Well, he provided money, weapons, and intel for what are the equivalent of regional corporate offices for Al-Qaeda, before and after 9/11. “The bin Laden corporation had poured cement for them at one point?”
No.
“Because of “several groups” we sent thousands of our troops into harm’s way in a hornet’s nest?”
Um, yes, and because of the ceasefire violations, and the WMD, and various other issues.

“Even if a crazy person who accidentally flushed his Lithium down the toilet were to believe that “several groupsd” existed, that person will still conclude that Saddam had nothing to do with either planning or financing the attacks of 9/11.”

So, since Germany had nothing to do with the planning or financing of Pearl Harbor, it was unjust of the US to seize German assets in country (even before the German declaration of war a few days later)? No. It is called “co-belligerence”, and is an alliance in all but name. And the fact is that, in this era of asymmetric war, can we afford to NOT retaliate against our foe’s co-belligerents?

“I’m glad you’re earning your think tank sandwich coupons”
Odd, I’m not. Do you know where I can get some?

“but please don’t insult our intelligence with such patently false bilge.”

If I’m insulting your intelligence, it ain’t because I’m making things up.

“Oh and by now you’ve had time to “remember” the group from Yemen.”

Which brings me to a rather embarrassing point: it was not Yemeni, but Bahraini, the Army of Muhammad, tied to Zawahiri and Egyptian Islamic Jihad- a group allied with Al-Qaeda proper.

“I’ll even give you time to look ‘em up on teh Googlez.”

Sorry, I don’t have “Googlez.”, and most of the time between your posting and this one was because I spent a great deal of time needling Terry on this issue.

“I can’t wait to hear about how your dog ate the link.”

Like I said, I refuse to give you a link until you provide an example of a source you consider “Pure” enough to take seriously. I get how this goes; you toss back the Blog entry as being unproffesional and biased, the formal report as being fake and bought, and everything else as being cooked up, so that you can laugh about how “skimpy” my sources are.

Sorry, ain’t gonna work. If you are honest, you will give an example, and the onus is on ME to provide or be humiliated. Or, you will uncloak your transparent plan and claim this is a patently fake attempt to dodge the question blahblahblah, and then you will mock me for not providing a source for you to finesse your way around to discredit. If you are going to do that, then I see no reason to waste my time or effort. So give an example or be done with it.

“Oh and the documents professing sales of Yellowcake from Niger? Forgeries. Here’s some “research” that will satisfy your scholarly mind:”

“The I.A.E.A. was able to review correspondence coming from various bodies of the government of Niger and to compare the form, format, contents and signature of that correspondence with those of the alleged procurement-related documentation. Based on thorough analysis, the I.A.E.A. has concluded, with the concurrence of outside experts, that these documents, which formed the basis for the reports of recent uranium transaction between Iraq and Niger, are in fact not authentic. We have therefore concluded that these specific allegations are unfounded.””

I greatly appreciate you providing the source, but you are missing the main reason: The reason the Niger issue is important is not because Niger actually sold it to Saddam (as you correctly point out, they put the kibbosh on that sale) but because Saddam tried to get it in the first place, as stated by Resolution 687 under Article C, Section 12.

http://www.fas.org/news/un/iraq/sres/sres0687.htm

As such, Saddam violated the ceasefire he swore to uphold. The fact that he failed is but a detail.

“Thanks for playing our game.”

You are welcome.

I and my family Appreciate the service and sacrifice of the Military
we also Understand fully the need to be in IRAQ
I have been called a Warmonger and much worse because I vocally support our military and the operations in Iraq and Afghanistan
we also boycott actors actresses and singers who vocally appose our military and the war’s my motto SHUT UP AND DANCE HOLLYWOOD

I proudly wear a Lanyard at work with the 101st Airborne on it
and sing the praises of our military
and thank god everyday for what you do

Proud and grateful Army Mom

Thank you and God bless you. That goes out to EVERYONE who put on a uniform to protect our way of life.

Good job Sergeant Welsh, enjoyed reading your post. After returning in 2006 from Iraq, I had many of the same feelings and still do. Those feelings were mostly against the liberals of the country, but also many conservatives that had lost faith because the fight became to hard and the lies of the MSM/Liberals. Hopefully, young Marines, Soldiers and other military members like yourself, wind up in Hollywood and Politics to change the way this country will view the war in the future.

Semper Gumby,
GySgt Ron Landers (USMC ret, retread 2005-2006)

Great post Sergeant Welsh, really enjoyed reading it. After returning from Iraq in 2006, I had many of the same feelings and still do. The way most of the liberals and even many conservatives had lost faith in the fight made me angry. Especially, since their discouragement was based on lies or distortions from the MSM and leftists. Americans have grown to expect small numbers of casualties and short conflicts without realizing this is a long war that won’t end with the Afghanistan and Iraq Campaigns. Hopefully, Marines and other service members like yourself will go to Hollywood or into Politics, so that in the future this war and its veterans will be remembered for the honorable service rendered. Semper Gumby from an old Jarhead.

GySgt Ron Landers (USMC ret, recalled 2005-2006)

[...] The soldier’s story is also referenced here [...]

Hollywood is full of a bunch of PANSY’s!
The United States Military is the BEST in the world. Thank you for your service and sacrifice. You fight for us and WE WILL FIGHT FOR YOU!

Corky:

“My bet is there is no Pat Buchanan, Lew Rockwell, Ron Paul conservatives here”

Ah, so you WEREN’T joking. Oh well. Sadly, you are wrong however, there are plenty of fans of the aforementioned idiots, which you would know if you READ anything.

“Just disgusting warmongering Neocon types”

Ah yes, the cartoonish demonetization. Do you even know ANYTHING about Neocons like myself? And, sadly, you are mistaken when you mention that we are the only ones on here, as you and your ilk can attest to.

“who belong on Huffington Post!”

Have you ever READ the Huffington Post, knave?

If anything, YOU and YOUR ILK deserve to go there.

And don’t fail to notice the absolute lack of facts and reason here!

In reply to the inane comment written by”

Terry – January 29th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

“I’ve noticed a lot of you who speak glowingly of the mission in Iraq and about how Saddam was “bad” are on the wrong side of the Israel-Palestinian issue. You don’t seem to mind Israel’s oppression of the Palestinians…and that we pay tons of money to SUPPORT (and one of the main reasons we are hated in the world.) In short, your POV is being programmed by the Zionists and Israel. Mine is consistent. America first, not Israel.”

FACT: Our support of Israel, along with the financial aid we provide Egypt and Jordan IS putting America First.

Fact: The US is the largest provider of Financial Foreign Aid to Egypt and Jordan.

Fact: We provide this financial aid to Jordan & Egypt contingent upon both countries engaging in peaceful relations with Israel. We do so in order to help stabilize the Middle East, which is in the best interest of America, Canada, and Europe.

Fact: Supporting Israel IS Putting AMERICA FIRST!!!

***Israeli Ingenuity Saves U.S. Lives

The U.S.-Israel relationship has evolved into a mutually beneficial alliance which has yielded military technologies, helping to protect American and Israeli lives.

*** The Arrow, a missile defense system that is currently deployed in Israel & it is the most important of the technologies. Jointly developed by the US & Israel it is the ONLY operational system that has consistently proven that one missile can shoot down another at high altitude and speed.

***Strategic cooperation has made important Israeli military innovations available to the United States, which uses them in real combat.

Examples:

***The Israeli-developed Hunter unmanned arial vehicles gather critical intell& kill terrorists—all without endangering pilots.

***The Litening targeting pod, an Israeli-made system with infrared sensors that identifies ground targets and enables pilots to fly at night and in bad weather. The Litening made it possible for American fighter pilots to deliver the munitions that killed al-Qaeda’s leader in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

***U.S. armored personnel carriers are protected by Israeli-developed reactive armor tiles, which explode outward upon impact, diffusing the force of incoming fire. So far, more than 800 U.S. troops have avoided injury or death as a result of the reactive tiles.

***The US & Israel continue to work together to reduce the threat of IED’s, which have been responsible for the majority of U.S. casualties in Iraq and now Afghanistan.

*** Israel regularly shares intel on American adversaries that has proven extremely useful for the United States.

No other U.S. ally has developed such extensive intel on Middle Eastern regimes as Israel has been forced to do for 60 years, and no other nation has shared such intelligence with the United States more frequently than has Israel.

***The US & Israel cooperate on Homeland Security.

-Israel is one of five countries participating in the U.S. Counterterrorism Technical Support Working Group, whose experts collaborate to develop anti-terrorism technology.

-American law enforcement agencies are increasingly studying Israel’s battle against terrorism.

-Israel frequently hosts delegations of American police chiefs, sheriffs and emergency responders who have returned and implemented what they learned from Israeli security forces to prevent terrorist attacks such as suicide bombings.

FACT: Supporting Israel is putting AMERICA FIRST.

For those who seemed confused as to the definition of anti-semite:

An anti semite is someone who hates/persecutes/disciminates AGAINST Jews. Antisemitism is characterized by a combination of religious, racial, cultural and ethnic biases towards/about Jews.

Anti semitism is NOT defined as being hated BY Jews.

In reply to the inane comment written by”

Terry – January 29th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

“I’ve noticed a lot of you who speak glowingly of the mission in Iraq and about how Saddam was “bad” are on the wrong side of the Israel-Palestinian issue. You don’t seem to mind Israel’s oppression of the Palestinians…and that we pay tons of money to SUPPORT (and one of the main reasons we are hated in the world.) In short, your POV is being programmed by the Zionists and Israel. Mine is consistent. America first, not Israel.”

FACT: Our support of Israel, along with the financial aid we provide Egypt and Jordan IS putting America First.

Fact: The US is the largest provider of Financial Foreign Aid to Egypt and Jordan.

Fact: We provide this financial aid to Jordan & Egypt contingent upon both countries engaging in peaceful relations with Israel. We do so in order to help stabilize the Middle East, which is in the best interest of America, Canada, and Europe.

Fact: Supporting Israel IS Putting AMERICA FIRST!!!

***Israeli Ingenuity Saves U.S. Lives

The U.S.-Israel relationship has evolved into a mutually beneficial alliance which has yielded military technologies, helping to protect American and Israeli lives.

*** The Arrow, a missile defense system that is currently deployed in Israel & it is the most important of the technologies. Jointly developed by the US & Israel it is the ONLY operational system that has consistently proven that one missile can shoot down another at high altitude and speed.

***Strategic cooperation has made important Israeli military innovations available to the United States, which uses them in real combat.

Examples:

***The Israeli-developed Hunter unmanned arial vehicles gather critical intell& kill terrorists—all without endangering pilots.

***The Litening targeting pod, an Israeli-made system with infrared sensors that identifies ground targets and enables pilots to fly at night and in bad weather. The Litening made it possible for American fighter pilots to deliver the munitions that killed al-Qaeda’s leader in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

***U.S. armored personnel carriers are protected by Israeli-developed reactive armor tiles, which explode outward upon impact, diffusing the force of incoming fire. So far, more than 800 U.S. troops have avoided injury or death as a result of the reactive tiles.

***The US & Israel continue to work together to reduce the threat of IED’s, which have been responsible for the majority of U.S. casualties in Iraq and now Afghanistan.

*** Israel regularly shares intel on American adversaries that has proven extremely useful for the United States.

No other U.S. ally has developed such extensive intel on Middle Eastern regimes as Israel has been forced to do for 60 years, and no other nation has shared such intelligence with the United States more frequently than has Israel.

***The US & Israel cooperate on Homeland Security.

-Israel is one of five countries participating in the U.S. Counterterrorism Technical Support Working Group, whose experts collaborate to develop anti-terrorism technology.

-American law enforcement agencies are increasingly studying Israel’s battle against terrorism.

-Israel frequently hosts delegations of American police chiefs, sheriffs and emergency responders who have returned and implemented what they learned from Israeli security forces to prevent terrorist attacks such as suicide bombings.

FACT: Supporting Israel is putting AMERICA FIRST.

It is simply not true that people in Hollywood or Americans anywhere else do not have great respect for the dedication and sacrifice of the American soldiers who have risked their lives in Iraq and elsewhere. But, the pride most Americans feel for their men in combat is irrelevant to the issue of whether Iraq has been a disaster for America, which it has.

Sgt Walsh

Thank you for your service. The only film I’ve seen on your list was valley of elah and it wasn’t for me.

It’s odd, maybe even ironic, that you would choose a deliberately out of context quote from Fox News to make your case against Hollywood feeding the public “wasteful, depressing, and horribly fabricated stories.” Funny enough, Obama had said this in the context of not having enough troops on the ground so that we could do MORE than just air-raids.

Unfortunately, the good doesn’t outweigh the bad. Bad news always sells, and when bad is as bad as Abu Ghraib, etc, it will outweigh the story of giving candy to kids anyday. The fact that bad news sells, has nothing to do with hollywood, and everything to do with how we, as a society, consume news.

Sgt. Welsh, Thank YOU for your service!

I love all of this “Obama was taken out of context” crap!

He meant what he said, he meant that our military was air-raiding villagers in the middle of the night..PERIOD and he meant every word given his background (education, mentors, environment, mother – all whacked out leftist), his ignorance (more conventional troops in Afghanistan don’t automatically = success, but they do give the Taliban a lot of targets and they do ironically, create a slush fund for spending a lot more $$$$, something liberals always rails against, that is military spending, but the O-man looks like he’s gonna ramp up dramatically), special forces are much more effective in Afghanistan, but you can’t produce them overnight, do you actually think that lefty Obama would create more SF? Never, everything he’s against, that is, manly potentially mean stuff, he’s basically as limp as his politics and fellow weak-kneed liberals, by the way, are there any straight male liberals/demcrats? Seems to me they’re all women with issues (i.e. ugly), gay/tranny/freaks, emo-men/boy metro types and various and sundry freaks, but I digress

My nephew did 2 tours, he was in the Army. I believe inhis intergrity and yours! Thank you for your service and God Bless all those that serve in the Armed Forces.
Veterans’ Day 2003
© By Ruth E. Longwell

Terrorism
When does it end
So everyone can start to mend
Today is Veterans’ Day
Watching Good Morning America
Four soldiers dead
Their wives
Each with new babies
That will never meet their dads

Tears flowed
When parts of a letter was read
Written by a soldier Jesse Givens
Before he died
To his family
Some parts said to his wife
After you tuck in Toad and Bean
Give them hugs and kisses for me
Go outside
Look at the stars
And count them
Don’t forget to smile

For all Veterans
Go outside
Look at the stars
Count them
And smile
Our thanks!

I never served this country, I dont pretend to know what you guys went through. I may be the only one but I dont believe Hollywood. I dont believe Obama and I dont believe there are any objective reporters left.

Remember this, and tell your firends:

Those people who attack you. They use your values and moral code against you. They have always dont this to doers. If they can make you feel guilty for doing then they think they can conrol you.

Its a battle as old as time and I am on your side. I believed in your cause.

You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

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