Lonewolf Diaries: Arresting Black People is Racist, You Pigs!
by Steven CrowderI hate to say this, but it must be noted to understand the situation at hand: Black people commit more violent crime per capita than any other race. Now before you go all Johnny Cochran on me here and declare me a racist, let me just state that I am simply addressing a statistic, much like President Obama did last Wednesday. The only difference is that my statistic doesn’t fit into a politically correct agenda with an end game designed to demonize the members of our law enforcement. Do you folks out there honestly assume the worst in all cops? Does it insult you that Barack Obama assumes you do?

“There is a long history of African-Americans and Latino’s being stopped by law enforcement, disproportionately” – Barack Hussein Obama. Boy, there’s a prejudiced little statement… against cops.
Sure it may be true that more minorities in this country are pulled over or even given the once-over by our police officers… But a disproportionate amount… Really?
When you take into account that black people are over seven times more likely to commit murder or a violent crime, I think you’ve got to ask yourself, at what point do we forbid a police officer from doing his job in the name of political correctness? Shouldn’t the honorable men and women who put themselves in harms way to protect us be given the benefit of the doubt?
Do we really want to get to a point where we assume racism is at play every time a decorated officer such as Jim Crowley makes a game-time decision?
As is often the case, Mr. Crowley had to deal with a phoned-in complaint of somebody breaking and entering. When the officer showed up, the man happened to be black (as well as uncooperative). Should he have just turned around and gone home? Would that have made him a more progressive chap?
The truth is that we don’t know what was said and we don’t know how out of line Mr. Gates had truly been. What we do know is that Officer Crowley has been nothing short of an exemplary police officer throughout his career and had never displayed any racially prejudiced tendencies before. We know that Mr. Gates is a notorious racist. We also know that Crowley works a job that causes him to deal with violent, volatile perpetrators who can flip the switch at any second to put his life in immediate danger.
For crying out loud, these people get shot at! Everyday people like Officer Crowley have to deal with scum who would like nothing more than to light them up like the fourth of July. Ever see that scene in “Robocop”? Yeah, like that. After one day on the job Obama would have to change his tapered little Hugo Boss pants.
Another question… How can so many cops be “racist white men” when many of the police officers themselves are minorities (much like Crowley’s black partner who was at the scene and supports the man 100%)?
Answer me that one, Bama. Sean Penn, feel free to chime in here too, buttercup.
I shan’t lie folks, I really don’t have all of the facts to make a proper judgment call on this one… But that won’t stop me from stating my opinion anyway. Sound familiar?




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Just tellin' like it is. The truth hurts.
I always found it disgusting how black democrats would come out at the drop of a hat at "police brutality," and then you compare whatever true cases of police brutality with the immense figures of black-on-black crime, or other targeted groups and I always ask, where's the protest against themselves?
It's not because they're black obviously, you have awesomes like Sonja Schmidt and Walter E. Williams that prove it's never the color of the skin that matters, it's the culture. It's the black dem culture.
*expecting a call from the NAALCP for this one*
Yep.
“There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs-partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”
- Booker T. Washington (1856-1915.)
http://www.historycooperative.org/btw/Vol.1/html/...
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
I need a ride to the kegger at 1600 Pennsylvania, anyone?
looks like someone is trolling (not so) stealthily here… one of our lefty loons is silently 'thumbing down' without weighing in. Cowards…
What grates on me is how whenever an innocent black person is stopped or questioned, they blame it on 'racial profiling'. Usually it's just good police work. If the cops were told to look for an overweight short white fat guy who just committed multiple murders, I doubt Kevin James would claim he were 'profiled' if he were in the area and were briefly detained for questioning.
It sucks being bothered by the cops. And we all get mad about it. But you don't have a greater right to not be stopped or to get more mad than usual just because you imagine some racial insult in normal police procedure.
“There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs-partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”
- Booker T. Washington (1856-1915.)
http://www.historycooperative.org/btw/Vol.1/html/...
It's a shame when a website won't allow you to post a quote by somebody like Booker T. Washington.
I think after the Gates/Crowley meeting with Obama maybe Obama should give a speech on how the police in this nation should handle a call of a possible break in call.
I think it may go like this: Officer comes to the door sees that the door is jared open knocks and a person comes to the door says too the Officer I live here would you please leave. Officer says thank you and then turns around and leaves.
As good as the advice he gave to doctors on taking out tonsils don't you think?
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Awesome post and I agree with you 100%!
Now, BHO has to put the full court press on BarryCare. Why? Two strikes against him in six months. First , the “stimulus” that stimulated nothing. Taking control of banks and GM did not sit well with a nation founded on personal freedom. Strike one. Then we have the (shocking) revelation that Rev. Wright’s disciple just might be a hateful racist. Strike two. In the middle of the debate to control, not only the lives, but the possibly the death of the citizens of this nation, BHO and the Dems are ramming this awful plan down our throats. And BHO knows that losing this fight would make him a lame duck in year one of his administration. Sorry, Barry. We are citizens, but we will not be subjects.
I suppose it's racist to mention (well, what isn't these day?), but I read somewhere that if you removed Black and Hispanic crime statistics the US would have the same rate as Switzerland.
Drop the last three letters from Officer Crowley's name and what do you get? Jim Crow! That proves he's a racist rogue officer!!!!!
Well, sadly there is truth to both sides. White Americans created this problem by stealth segregation and economic class warfare. When you pile people into ghettos and make sure they can't get any work they tend to find things to do. The flip side of the coin is they need to stop killing each other and committing crimes but in order for that to happen we are going to have to help them out. Someone has got to make the first move and since we are holding all the cards that would have to be us. (I am a white American by the way)
I've been stopped by the police numerous…three times for speeding, once for running a red light, and three times for expired tags. I drove away from each without a single citation.
Maybe it's because I'm the right color. Or maybe it's also because I show respect and take responsibility for my actions. Another thing I do is keep both hands on the wheel in plain sight and let the officer know what I'm doing–"My license? It's in my back pocket…I'm going to reach for that now, sir." I have a feeling most of them like that.
There was only one time I was stopped for nothing and that was when a buddy and I were out on a late night video store run. We got pulled by a couple of state troopers who wanted to search the vehicle. Sure thing. Heck, we even sat there and chatted it up with them for the duration. After less than five minutes, they realized we were cool and left. A slight pain in the butt, but overall no big deal. Looking back, I can understand why they pulled us over–my buddy's car was loaded with college fraternity bumper stickers. They probably though it was the second coming of Animal House.
this kind of shallow evaluation has, for generations, perpetuated the myth that COLOR is the determining factor in behavior. with this kind of thinking, it's sooooo very easy to reinforce the hegemony stereotyping that often leads to the kinds of discriminatory legislation that plagued this nation for the bulk part of it's history.
it's ain't about color. it's about MONEY. POOR people commit violent crimes, and people of color are disproportionately poor in this country. there are many, many reasons for this, and we could go round and round here, and since i'm a lefty, i'm sure i would run into much disagreement on WHY there is such wealth disparity. one thing i think we CAN agree on is that children, whatever their color, who have good schools with proper infrastructure, skilled teachers, modern resources, after-school programs, comprehensive meal programs…. are far less likely to grow up to become the kinds of people who commit these violent crimes. with that in mind, and since i'm sure that words like affirmative action are anathema here, could we agree that if we would put a bit more into these kid's educations (for these kids are not responsible for who their parents are), we might see less of the crimes that cause foolish articles like this to be written?
Oh the irony of Obama and his ilk screaming RACISM while they push for more and more abortions, which are disproportionately performed on blacks. So black genocide is A.O.K. with them, but whitey doing his job isn't…
Your article while being truthful, has no historical context and is thus counterproductive. You are perpetuating the problem. Young, privileged, ignorant and white.
Here are some quick Dept. of Justice stats….
"Racial differences exist, with blacks disproportionately represented among homicide victims and offenders
In 2005, homicide victimization rates for blacks were 6 times higher than the rates for whites"
"In 2005, offending rates for blacks were more than 7 times higher than the rates for whites"
read 'em and weep…
I'm white, Christian, military veteran, anti-abortion. Obama's DHS has me profiled. According to Obama's administration, I'm a potential threat.
What's up with that? I thought "profiling" was a no-no.
You sir, are a prejudiced bigot. How do you know he's privileged? What if he's a poor white boy just tryin' to earn a livin'?
Plus people like you shouldn't ever criticize or talk. The problem gets worse every day. You criticize, but you don't solve. Why? It's because people like you are perpetuating the problem. Stop being the damn problem!
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Stranger homicides Black on White…17.7% stat from the year 2005….
Stranger homicides White on Black… 4.5% stat from the year 2005….
Dept. of Justice statistics, check them out for yourself.
I was recently stopped for failure to signal a lane change (I'd not changed lanes for 50 miles) at 2:30 a.m. in Salina, Kansas. The cop harassed me for 45 minutes searching my car. I was pulling a Waverunner and returning from Colorado after dropping my family off at DIA. I'm a physician. I was unfailingly polite and deferential to no avail whatsoever.
I was carrying a .22 caliber rifle and handgun which I reported to the cop after he searched the passenger compartment. Neither were loaded and both were in the trunk. There must have been something about me that triggered such an aggressive search on the part of the cop. There is no doubt in my mind had I not been completely cooperative I would have been hauled down to the hoosegow.
Now, I'm a white nearly 60 year old man. I could bellyache till the cows come home, but that's not going to help a damn thing. Bottom line: The cops have the upper hand – PERIOD. You must comply with their orders dozily or they can make your life miserable.
Gates was spoiling for a fight. I suspect he was boozing and was more that a little tipsy.
White 237,854,954 80.2 % of total U.S. population
Black or African American 37,909,341 12.8 % of total U.S. population
Disproportionate? Yea, I'd say there's a problem in the African American population.
Is it caused by poverty, racism, lack of education, name your own excuse…
Show them stats I post below, that should shut them up.
Gates says all this could be a "teaching moment". I agree.
How about teaching young people not commit crime then there won't be 'racial profiling'. Ever wonder why Asians are not 'racially profiled' in police situations? Because the majority of their parents teach them to be respectful and not do crime. They teach them to get an education. The 'teachable moment' would be to Black men to raise their children and not abandon them. To teach them that crime only makes your community look bad and causes problems for others of your community. Instead Gates and Obama want to punish those who have to deal with the responsibility that leaders in the Black community have not dealt with, and that is high number of Black males committing crime for their numbers.
Before people try to scream racism I will tell you this. I am a person of color myself and live in a place with high crime and see it first hand. The absence of a responsible male or even female influence will determine if a child will do crime or not. If there is no strong influence or a BAD influence then that is when you have a high degree of criminal behavior.
So Obama/Gates this IS a teachable moment….teach the youth that being a "gangsta", "G", and a "thug"is NOT cool and that it is the cause of "racial profiling".
Can you share the link?
Gates is a Harvard Professor. He is better than a police officer . He is above the law.
President Obama with out knowing the facts called the police officers stupid.
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- Booker T. Washington (1856-1915.)
Why, in the Depression and many years of real racism and segregation, there wasn't the black crime rate we see today? After MLK's loss, the hateful wing of the Civil Rights movement, headed by Louis Farrakhan and Jesse Jackson, took over. These are the people that have destroyed the black family, kept a disproportionate number of their followers in poverty, and enriched themselves in the process. Start thinking independently, and stop blindly following these people. We have been waiting for the time when we all “will be judged by the content of their character, not the color of their skin.” Compare what blacks have suffered with what Jews have suffered. Now, compare how Jews have responded with how blacks have responded. What gets results, anger or determination?
The person who said "this is about being poor not about color". Many Asians and a lot of Latinos come here and are broke as heck, without a pot to pee in, yet they don't commit crimes.
The majority of the world is poor. I have gone to places where there is poverty you could not find in the U.S., but there are no bars on the windows, they don't lock their doors and don't have to worry of being robbed.
It is what is being taught that causes crime in poor communities that being a "Gangsta" is cool. That being a criminal is OK and that it is cool to be a "thug". If you haven't seen that you must be blind.
Obama and Gates should come out and instead of attacking those who have to deal with this, the police and the courts, but address those who are creating the "Gangsta" chic that is out there. That is the music industry and, yes Hollywood who make those movies and hire Thug Rappers to be stars.
I remember an episode of ER where a murder took place and two black doctors were pulled over. They hemmed and hawed about racial profiling and you're supposed to be really mad.
But what I noticed was the getaway vehicle was described as a new, gold-colored SUV and guess what the doctors were driving to work in? A new, gold-colored SUV. Can you racially profile cars?
Outstanding post. Very brave. This is a conversation that needs to be had, but unfortunately one side of it seems to be willfully ignorant and more than willing to beat the other side over the head with positively mindless arguments and flat out lies, all in the interest of grubbing more money out of the system and being content to be condescended to by a bunch of left wing "slave masters" who would rather keep black people anesthetized with government largesse than have them actually develop themselves to their full potential. It's amazing to realize that the left promotes organizations like Planned Parenthood, which actively campaigns to promote abortion in minority communities as a means of controlling those populations, and the black community just blindly follows along, not even thinking about the genocide being perpetrated against them.
Wake up people! Has everyone forgotten that Lincoln was a Republlican? That the DNC sent guns and money to the KKK to violently suppress the newly freed slaves? That Republicans died trying to ensure that newly enfranchised blacks could exercise their constitutional rights in the old South? Jeff Davis was a Democrat. The first President to invite a black man to dine in the White House was Teddy Roosevelt, a Republlican. Republlicans have a proud history of fighting for civil rights. Most of the opposition to civil rights legislation was from Democrats, not Republicans. We need to remind the nation of these facts.
You're almost swerving into the truth. "children, whatever their color, who have good schools with proper infrastructure, skilled teachers, modern resources, after-school programs, comprehensive meal programs…. are far less likely to grow up to become the kinds of people who commit these violent crimes."
Two indisputable points: Some of the absolutely worst minority school districts spend the most money per pupil. Point two: I've been in districts that have a fraction of the money to spend, but do just fine. The difference is not money or colour. The difference is two married parents. Before the great society made black male head of households redundant, black and white illegitmacy rates were very similar.
That being said how shall we proceed to save the poor minority children, forced sterilization to prevent more of the same or taking the children away and raising them in clean, efficient, state run orphanages away from the ghetto?
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Then to the person who wrote "whites created segregated ghettos". That might have been the situation many years ago. Today many people move to neighborhoods they can afford so that is not true anymore.
Take Asians for example. Decades ago Asians were segregated to their own communities like many people of color, yet with hard work and by following the rules they moved up quickly and now live anywhere they want BECAUSE THEY CAN AFFORD IT.
You will find many affluent Latinos and Blacks living in wealthy white neighborhoods so that argument is moot. But crime travels. Prof. Gates lived in a middle class neighborhood but Gates admits himself that his home had been broken into before. So the neighbor and a person on her way to work was acting like a "neighborhood watch" when she someone trying to force their way into a house. That is why the police were called because of previous break ins.
Then when the police arrived Prof. Gates put on his "victim" tin foil hat and cried and screamed racism instead of thanking the officer and the neighbor for being good citizens and watching out for the neighborhood.
Jim, the only thing we agree on is Gates is a Harvard Professor.
For the record, the president stated that the Cambridge police acted “stupidly” in arresting Gates.
But I heard only one white guy is invited.
Yup, "Negro" was the blocked "possibly offensive" word the ID system balked at, BTW "colored" was fine. Next time just use the HTML formatting to make a single letter into italics, like I did with the "e," and it will sail right through. And that is not BH blocking it, only ID is responsible, "the site" does not do automatic censorship like that.
But I heard only one white guy is invited. Leaves me out.
You really want that showdown with Penn, don't you?
I heard that the majority of serial killers are white males. Now, I wouldn't want a likely suspect who was, say, Filipino to be overlooked – wait, sorry, Asians don't have victim status anymore, do they? Okay, um, let's say a female of any race. I wouldn't want her to be overlooked because serial killers are usually white males. But if the news says there's a serial killer of unknown race/gender out there and a white dude comes to my house and says he's with, I dunno, Sears, and wants to check the seals on my windows, I'm gonna be a little more creeped out than if he were any other race/gender (the others would be more likely to be regular robbers, or to work for Sears).
And if I'm a white cop arresting a minority person who has victim status, I'm gonna be more likely to expect to be called a racist.
Just sayin'.
Steven! Thanks for the common sense post and the politically incorrect (albeit TRUE) observations.
I'm a cop (15 years and still chugging) and I have been in Sgt Crowley's shoes before. Even though, of course, my incident wasn't on the top of DRUDGE, it was still a stressful experience and one that I hope no LEO has to endure.
Any way, thanks again.
PS: The avatar on my account is "Aron", my dearly departed K9 partner. He passed away 2 years ago and I still miss him. God bless.
Just slap a "Don't Tread on Me" bumpersticker on your car and you're on Jan Nan's watch list "fer sure"!
"with blacks disproportionately represented among homicide victims"
I'm pretty sure more black people kill black people than white people do. Sad either way. Racism is silly.
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Versus young, entitled, ignorant and black? Would that be enough of a "Change" to perpetuate a solution?
Been tried by Democrats, still have it now thanks to Democrats, never has worked.
The other guy said: "How do you know he's privileged?", not "How do you know he's white?" And it's very nice that you're white, just peachy. That doesn't mean you're incapable of making (or even unlikely to make) silly judgments about other white people.
But you probably know that. At least I hope you do.
Great post as ever Mr. Crowder. Except for referring to Barack Hussein Obama as "Bama". As a lifelong resident of Alabama, I am deeply offended.
Keep telling the truth, Stephen. To heck with political correctness.
Keep telling the truth, Steven. To heck with political correctness.
"…they tend to find things to do." Really? That's your arguement?
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I disagree. Prior to LBJ's "Great Society", black families were whole and largely self-sufficient. We've "helped" so much that today, Black America has a 75% out of wedlock birth rate and a huge majority are on welfare. If we "help" any more, they're really going to be screwed. The only people that can help now are the people themselves. They need more Bill Cosbys and fewer Al Sharptons.
There's nothing shallow about Steve's evaluation. although I can find plenty of "myth" in your own analysis.
Saying "it's about MONEY" is both redundant and stupid. Poverty is not caused by lack of money–that's the outcome of making stupid choices in a system that rewards and enables stupid behavior.
The numbers don't lie: Black-on-white assaults are 9:1 over white-on black assaults. And the disproportionate number of black assault victims are black. Poor neighborhoods are poor because of the hgh crime which keeps out businesses and drives away anyone with the assets to pick up and get out.
BTW, the people keeping poor children out of good schools are liberals like Obama and Gates, who send their own children to the private schools they deny poor children the choice to attend.
Gates should have known better. Being a perfesser and all. They are supposed to be smarter than us mere commoners.
I live in one the Liberalests cities in one of the Bluest states.
Africaqn-Americans make up only 13 percent of the population, but has a population of 17 percent Asian and 24 percent Latino. Whites in my city are the most liberal around and Obama won overwhelmingly in our city and county.
We have a black mayor and were voted one of the most integrated cities in the United States.
Over the weekend there were 4 robberies and a shooting in my city in different locations by different criminals.
In each robbery and shooting the description was:
Black male
age 18-24
Yeah so Gates and Obama time for the "teachable moment"…teach young people not to do crime and you won't have racial profiling.
Great read Steven! This is a subject that is definitely out of hand in the USA. When are we going to begin to judge people by the content of their character as opposed to the color of their skin? Starting with the Great Society, …LBJ’s experiment in a new kind of governmental slavery, and by the way that’s poor white people and black. This has locked generations of people into abject servitude to the state. Families have been decimated from the Appalachians to the ghettos of South Chicago with no end in sight. The race industry that has flourished from the sorrow of the poor masses is grotesque, …there’s a special place in Hell for these creeps. On a personal basis I do not accept the premise, you go victim on me and the discussion is over. Screaming “racism” is nothing but an admission of your own failings, …boring!
I think the Democrats have been trying that "helping" thing for almost fifty years now.
Oh that's nothing new. I've had someone doing that to me for at least a month on every post.
But not particularly surprising…
You know, I think this is one way they keep the racial tension in this country going. Convince both black and white that the white people hold all the cards and the blacks need their help. It's a perpetual culture of guilt and entitlement. Some black people have bigger obstacles to get around than some white people, no denying that, but the reverse is true as well. While not making light of those obstacles, blacks are just as capable of rising above adversity as any other race, and history proves it. I think it's pretty arrogant to think white people hold all the cards.
"economic class warfare"
Balderdash.
Whoa! Nice! I think we have all typed something like that at one point. It is out of sheer frustration that the MSM continues to tell us 2+2=5 on issues like this. Before the internet, the MSM had a lock TELLING us what the truth was. Now we know we are not alone and are not wrong.
Doesn't sound like any reason to search your vehicle. You could have legally shot him.
Quite right Dan. Research has shown that the single factor which tracks criminality, controlled and uncontrolled for race, income, you name it- is being born out of wedlock.
And in fact the welfare system has largely created that problem.. One st6udy found that a 50% increase in AFDC and food stamps resulted in a 43% increase in illegitimate births.
When,oh when are liberals going to wake up to the law of unintended consequences?
Sorry about your dog bud, that can be tuff.
And when you correct for race, the disparity becomes larger (though I've heard arguments to the contrary.)
You know Thorien all robbers are white, you’ve seen the Brinks commercial, right.
Well, actually that probably is true looking at the outcome of the case. The "fine upstanding black citizen" got the charges dropped, and is having a beer with Osama. And the police officer may get to have a beer with them. Of course, I think I know who will be stopped by the DC cops and made to take a breathalyzer after that "party". And it ain't Gates or Osama.
And accurate. "Law Enforcement" has largely brought this upon themselves.
OH! I forgot! Damn, I gotta keep those white guys off my lawn!
Okay, I give up. EVERYTHING is rascist. EVERYONE is a rascist. EVERY EVENT that has, is, or will happen is an historically rascist event. Everybody satisfied now? God bless our RASCIST America.
Good luck with all of that (RASCIST stuff).
P.S. Attention: Al Sharpton – you can retire now. OOPS… rascist. Sorry.
So those laws that lasted until the mid 60s that forbade blacks from going into white restaurants or living in white neighborhoods or drinking from white water fountains were just signs of a happy peaceful paradise until those nasty Marxists made everyone think this was bad?
If an innocent man is questioned by the police it's good police work? I'd think questioning or stopping the guilty one — even if he's not black — would be good police work.
And best of all, they weren't allowed in any white institutions, so you never had to see any of them. That's racial harmony, Big Hollywood style!
And what was Gates' crime? Being in his own home? Being uppity to a white man? Or being a black man who has achieved financial success and respect?
Yes, except that all the Southern racists left the Democratic party and became Republicans when LBJ forced the civil rights bill through. Jesse Helms and his ilk were all Dems until then.
Cops question innocent people all the time. Usually they are the ones who turn in the bad guys.
Crime? Disorderly conduct in public.
Republicans pushed through the civil rights laws.
"WE" don't hold all the cards. This is still America and anyone who really tries can do very well regardless of race or background. "WE" have been "helping" "them" for many years. But money for nothing never did anybody any good. It's up to every American to make his or her own way in this country- with the help of our laws and constitution which are a really good starting point for anyone. Notice the constant influx of immigrants who consider it a privilege to even be here! If my family had been in America for a few generations what possible excuse could I have for not having made a decent life for myself? My race? Come on.
Shortly after highschool, I was with a friend at a softball tournament, out of state. His girlfriend was in the same city so I made myself scarce for about an hour. While I was out walking, about 11 pm, I was stopped by two police officers. At first, I didn't think much of it, then I noticed one of the police officers was holding both hands in front of him and behind the car door. I realized he had his gun drawn! I had been quite polite to that point and I was the model of cooperation after that!
Turned out there had been an armed robbery in the area and they called in my description, which did not match the witness's description. I wasn't upset about them stopping me, they were just doing their job. I wasn't really upset about the drawn gun, I thought that if I was polite and cooperative there would be no problem. I just wanted to convince them that I was of no interest so they resume looking for the real criminal. I just cannot see any circumstance where antagonizing a police officer is ever a good idea.
How do you think they get to the guilty guy? They generally have to go through innocent people first. If you watched any investigative law enforcement show, you'd know that.
Hey Steve, when are you and your 3X T-shirts going to bring this comedy act to Compton, Inglewood or Delray for kicks and giggles? Hope the gym membership hasn't expired..
Try reading it again. Slowly this time…………………………
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We can only help them if they decide to help themselves. Unfortunately, too many of them believe as you do that they're busy being oppressed and therefore can't get ahead. So long as that mentality stays in place, no amount of anything done will help them.
And when you give parents the choice in which schools they send their children to, I might believe you were serious. But while the public school system stays in place trapping poor children in failing inner city schools despite the ever-increasing amount of Federal dollers spent per pupil, we'll never make any headway.
As opposed to your boundless wisdom? Where is it? Show us the ignorance of our ways oh guilty white one.
Andrea2929
You have made a very nice pitch for the "school voucher system". There may be hope for you yet
The problem is that nothing will ever change as long as politics plays a roll in the school system. The perfect example is the Chicago School System. Politicians and the Teachers Unions run the district, and it shows. It is the poster child for what not to do when running a school district or teaching children. Kind of ironic that Obama placed someone from that very flawed school system in the Dept. of Education………………………….Just sayin'
Hey, Mark! What's it like living life as a troll? Inquiring minds want to know,.
Btw, the party in FAVOR of segregation was the DEMOCRATS. Aahhh, now we see the Marxist link! Another interesting FACT for you, MLK was a registered REPUBLICAN, that's right.
Recently? Were you driving on the left side of the highway for a long time while not passing other cars? They just changed the law so that you can be pulled over and ticketed for that in Kansas. We've been wondering how they planned to pull it off. What consitutes driving too long in the fast lane anyhow?
Anyhow, I'm sorry you caught the grumpy cop in my backyard.
Not funny at all!
I dunno…..as a True Blue Florida Gator…I thought it was fitting.
(JK, JK…just havin' a little fun w/ you Bama boys!)
Please see my reply to your inane comments above. Thank you.
Who is responsible for "stealth segregation and economic class warfare"?The democrats favored segregation,the republicans pushed through the Civil Rights Acts of the 60's. The KKK is an orginisation founded by democrats.LBJ's Great Society gave them public housing,taking all incentive to work. Just sayin'..
Say something constructive already. Implying a group of people are racist is not constructive.
"Your article while being truthful, has no historical context and is thus counterproductive????What???? The TRUTH is counterproductive????The TRUTH has no historical context???? Wow, get help,fast. Only in a backward thinking mind would TRUTH be counterproductive. Man, some people.
Uh oh James, don't look now, but I think Stafford just AGREED with you!Are we finally getting through to Staff?LMAO …. I somehow doubt it!
Ahhh, the old Stafford is back. However, if you would have shot and killed a Police Officer you'd be charged with capitol murder, how do you figure it's legal to shoot a policeman who's searching you car? Just wonderin' ….
Thank you, Joe …. : )
Excellent! As eloquent and timely as it was 100 years ago, perhaps moreso.
Love it! What a witty ending. Keep up the great work, Crowder.
Your point being??
Except for Roberty Byrd
Ahh.. racism. I fall back to teachings that explain that we are all equally screwed without our Father. It is only us that divide us into separate, and presumed levels of superiority/inferiority.
Legally shot him? Show me the law that says that. Oh you forgot the happy ending to that being surrounded and killed by the SWAT team
well now waitttttt a minute. it's not as simple as just saying that more money doesn't help. "savage inequalities" by jon kozol made a great case for the WAY that tax dollars are allocated, particularly with regards to property tax discrepancies which allow one district to be more reliant on federal funding, and one to be significantly less. it's more to do with HOW that money is spent. here's where i'll leap from my liberal ship and state for the record that the administrative costs are severely bloated. departments of education across the country are wayyy too top heavy. place the funding directly into schools… particularly those in need of basic infrastructure…. simple things life enough desks, enough books, functioning heat and toilets, and we have a start. no, more money isn't the only answer, but spending it wisely would make a pretty big headway in addressing some of the most fundamental inequalities that we see across the country.
i'm not sure how much i want to go into the marriage thing, although since you seem to think that it's fundamental for a child to have two married parents in order to be successful, then you'd be well-advised to advocate for the legalization of gay marriage, so that we have as many committed, legally-sanctioned couples as possible raising our kids. ha! like how i worked that one in?
Aah! I'm so sick of the racism deal. My brother and I watched from the back seat of the car as a child while my father got abused by a black cop that was out of his jurisdiction. I didn't see my dad calling the media and whining. Nope. Calling the cops wouldn't have done any good then, either. The cop claimed that our "Discover Kids" booklights were blinking in S.O.S. pattern. We were like 7 and 8 years old. Ok, we were the nerd kids that knew S.O.S. patterning Morse, but really? There were no cruiser cameras then, either. It's all about doing your job and being respectful of those that do theirs. Life, what ya gonna do?
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if you thought/say/said otherwise, you are racist
OJ IS INNOCENT
THE MAN IS KEEPING OJ DOWN
Steven, you made a huge mistake in using the color of crime statistics. Those statistics are grossly exaggerated because they are published by a racist organization known as the New Century Foundation. Trust me, they're white nationalists. If I were you, I would immediately replace that link with the official Dept. of Justice statistics.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm
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Et tu, SQT?
Reading comprehension seems to be an issue with you, perhaps I should have gone with a (case A / case B) format.
Change the players, change the view. Arab Muslims on a plane hurling religious epithets and refusing to quiet down. A "right" to be there. Passengers on a plane forming a temporary neighborhood. Despite the "sensitivities," despite the 1st Amendment, the opinion on this "neighbor" who would not shut up would be universal and those charged with keeping the peace would have been labeled negligent for deciding otherwise. Book 'em, Danno.
I just erased about 6 paragraphs of reply and reaction when I hit a wall and finally thought, "I give up, what's the use."
Dang, man. Kevin James is a mass murderer? He always seemed like such a happy guy…
Well, I'll make sure the word gets out on the internet.
What are these 'white institutions' You speak of? The White House?
I think what you're saying is intuitively correct. To prove it, what are the crime rate statistics among middle and upper-middle class blacks? I'd bet they're almost exactly the same as whites of the same socio-economic strata. Ditto out-of-wedlock births, drug abuse, high school dropout rates and other social blights.
Basically, crime breeds crime, poverty breeds poverty, ignorance breeds ignorance. There's no elaborate conspiracy by "The Man" to keep the black man down; the black man does a fine job of that on his own without any help from us.
But it really doesn't have much to do with race, other than the obvious fact that a disproportionate number of racial minorities start out with those kinds of disadvantages.
My high school.
We did, however, play football against the "black" school across town. Thier band scared the hell out of us…
My high school.
We did, however, play football against the "black" school across town. Their band scared the hell out of us…
College Frat Boy profiling?
There should be some sort of class action suit you could get in on…
Oh My God there are some scary people out there. I'd like to think "Stafford" was kidding, but judging from his reputation score, his "humor" is a little too subtle for our general readership.
Welcome to the club. At least this is a more civil thread than many. Just remember, as you should already know, there are times when 6 paragraphs of reasoned discourse are better replaced with a line or two of pointed wit.
Yep. Most of my comments are as pithy as possible. But I got passionate. Trouble.
Breathing regularly now, thanks.
not just red meat here but a major hunk of it- all raw…
As we have stated before the very concept of racism is a Marxist construct dating from the '30's- like class warfare it is meant to divide people and silence critics.
And it pretty much worked. Until now.
People are wising up to the endles cry of 'racism' from the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons out there, like all essentially meaningless insults it has lost it's sting.Race conciousness is apparent everywhere and somehow it's only a problem when it's white folk. Anyone buy that?
Like the cruel practical joke that Obama is a 'post-racial' candidate and a 'healer', this episode with Gates just shows dime store lefties to be that which they are- hypocrites- and even worse, purveyors of fiction…
Are you really that blinded or are you just being contrary?
<a href=”http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762156.html” target=”_blank”>http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762156.html I prefer U.S. Census sites but I didn't want to wade through a bunch of tables and abstracts…same difference on this type of stat in my opinion.
Hey, cops have to deal w/crap I would never deal with, and especially at that pay! I make more in a month than some do all yr. Jiminy cricket is that horrible! Also, my experience with cops, mouthing off and handcuffs is this. My ex, the wife abuser, was doing his thing, I called the cops. They came, but the cop that was talking to us, decided for some reason that I had "encited" the event. Uhm, yeah. Anyway, he refused to arrest wife beater, and so I told him where he could shove it. And some other not nice things. So, he decided that a pair of handcuffs and me and all of my 5'2, 115 llbs self needed to be faceplanted into said cop car. I was po'd, sure, but realized later it wasn't a big deal, and I should have just kept my mouth shut. I wasn't arrested, but I am positive if I had of kept it up I would have been, so whatever your color, age, or sex, STFU when the cops are talking to you!
I wouldn't think of it as racist. I would bet that if you controlled the crime statistics for factors like welfare aid and single motherhood, you'd have a lot of those crime statistics covered and they would still be disproportionately black and hispanic but you'd also have caught that group of whites in your net, too. In other words, I think socioeconomic factors have more to do with it than race, but that certain racial populations display more of those socioeconomic indicators.
Irony, is calling the officer a racist, not knowing that the same officer helped save a black mans life ( reggie Lewis).
The only redeeming social value of incidents and comments like the Obama-Gates fiasco is that it facilitates the back lash necessary to oust Obama and end political correctness and black whining.
Wow, Crowder, I didn't think you could be any more of a dipwad, but you've proven me wrong.
Since the stat says that blacks are more likely to commit murder, that probably means that any black you see walking down the street, in class or at work should be stopped, frisked, and held pending proof that he won't commit any crimes (but of course there is none since the stat says he probably will).
Truth is, I thought that in our country, you are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. I thought that was the law of the land. But because of statistics, the law of the land just should not apply to black people, right?
<<When you take into account that black people are over seven times more likely to commit murder or a violent crime, I think you’ve got to ask yourself, at what point do we forbid a police officer from doing his job in the name of political correctness?>>
So why don't you spell the whole thing out: blacks are also more likely to be the victims of violent crimes by other blacks, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics. This means that by and large, white guys really have nothing to worry about when it comes to black people. But we should be scared crapless of you guys since, there is more than a 1 in 2 chance that the perpetrator of a hate crime will be a white male.
Also, 77 percent of all pedophiles are white males, meaning kids are just not safe when they are around white dudes. I know I wouldn't want my kid around anyone whose stats represent the ENTIRE population since correlation equals causation.
So, since profiling is a good idea, I think we should set up a patrol of predominantly white areas to be sure that no hate crimes are committed and nobody's kid ever gets molested. The more we hold white guys face down to the pavement, the fewer hate crimes and sex predetory crimes there will be
That makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?
You prick.
That was then this is now. Duh
No, it's because you're the right color.
I've been stopped three times as well by different police departments. It wasn't for speeding, expired tags, or any law breaking. I followed your exact procedure. Once I was let go with a "thanks, have a nice evening"; another time my car was impounded; and another time I was taken in for questioning.
The cop who let me go was Hispanic, the other two were white. I'm black. I've never been accused of any crime. I'm educated and from a two-parent family. I work hard and none of the statistics that you people love to staple to all blacks as a stupid stereotype apply to me.
So if I did the same things that you did, why did I get the business from the white cop, but the Hispanic cop let me go?
Can you answer that, smart guy?
Being a very conservative possibly libertarian white guy, I have no problem at all with gay marriage. Now if I can just get you to acknowledge that the teachers unions have a hand in this in that they do everything in their power to prevent even the identification of "skilled teachers" much less use money to compensate the "skilled teachers" properly we might have a place to start a discussion.
Look Deize,
Why don't you STOP LYING!!!! I've actually seen you post to several other boards with this stupid story and when you were questioned on it, you couldn't corroborate your b.s.
Your dad never took anything off of any black cop, he was never pulled over, nothing happened to him You're just making this crap up so that people will think you're the victim.
SHUT UP, for cryin' out loud you LIAR!!!!
It is very simple, let me break it down for you: "I'm white" = your a racist, "Christian"=you are clinging to your bible, "military veteran"=your a warmonger, "anti-abortion"=you are against free choice. It is only profiling if you are not white, not Christian, against any type of military, as that is just sanctioned murder and you must be pro-choice. Wait lets call that what it really is, the murder of defenseless babies. that is the reason the DHS has you profiled, because you, me and other people like us are the greatest threat to the great liberal society.
So with roughly 15% of the population one racial group commits approx 84% of the crime. Is that your point?
Don't know, Why not ask the lady that called 911?
I myself am a short, white girl, who's been stopped and questioned by police during walks at night in my own neighborhood. I never took it to be an insult. I figured they were doing their jobs, rather. Maybe that's me, though. I'm a woman who's father served in law enforcement for 20 years and ended up married to a military policeman. I'm biased, right?
Thank you Ray (applause), finally someone who will use ACCURATE OFFICIAL STATISTICS to make their point!!!
There are so many of you who use that same "Birth of a Nation" garbage to perpetuate racism, which is exactly the foundation of racial profiling in the first place.
The belief that all blacks are suspect is a good portion of why there is such a racial divide in this country.
Funny, I went to school with plenty of young Black people. When I graduated, I attended college with even more Black people. Then I joined the military and served aside many more Black people. Currently, my next-door neighbors are Black. So…please…continue demonstrating the incredibly slow perception of change and difference you are right now. It's illuminating, to see how some people just can't seem to pull themselves out of the 60's long enough to observe where we really are.
RELEASE ALL THE TAPES! The public wants to see and hear all the tapes.
I'm sure if Gates was shown in a flattering light they would already be inserted in his next PBS special on Racist White America.
So if a white president was a 20+ year member of a church where the reverend openly said racist remarks about blacks; defended a good, rich, white, professor friend of his who made racial comments to a black cop; and nominated a white guy to the Supreme Court who said that as a white man, he can make better judgments than a minority, would we call that president racist?
that's OK, I'm comming in to thumb up all those thumb downs.
You haven't given a lot of details about your detainment. All you talked about was your color and the color of the arresting officers. How about some more information, smart guy?
Why don't you learn the facts of the case before you comment.
good for you- still, it was a cowardly act; emblematic of our foes we suppose…
I didn't say that being poor causes crime. I grew up poor myself. Poverty or being poor in and of itself isn't the determinant, but it is a big indicator. Having a broken family is also a big indicator, but it isn't a cause either as my cousins both grew up with a broken family and turned out fine. You can't assign simple cause and effect relationships, but you can find correlations. People who are poor and grew up in broken family homes are statistically much more likely to cause crimes later on in life.
It's like having the genetic markers for some types of cancer. It only makes you more likely to get those kinds of cancer; it doesn't automatically mean that you will.
It is a crying shame is that it is being perpetuated within the black community. It is almost taught as a subject to them by themselves that the white man is holding them back and that all whites are racist.
My two oldest grand sons (one now in the Navy and the other in the Air Force) have told me that the blacks in their units are amazed that they have been lied to and bamboozled all of their lives by the black community.
Evidently when they got out of the black environment that they had been raised in and into our Military they found out the truth.
And hopefully that truth will enable them to be whatever they want to be, and to shed the burden of thinking they are being oppressed by the white man.
Papa Ray
West Texas
Just askin'. What did Booker T have to say?
Wasn't there a group named after him, ya know "& the MG'S?"
apartheid is, and always was wrong. What the Marxists did was turn it into a political movement in order to swell their numbers- the Left has little use for any minority and will throw them all to the wolves in order to achieve their dystopian dream of totalitarian control where we are all one huge minority…
White only by birth, it seems. Have you ever opened your ears and eyes to realize that it's the blacks that want to be segregated? Please, stop talking for awhile and start looking and listening…please!
Sincerely,
Your Dear Uncle Tom
Loosing any companion animal is hard; I can only imagine how much harder it would be to lose one so tied to your personal safety that the two of you had to depend on each other. I can understand how you still miss him. I'm sorry.
It's amazing how crime statistics set people off. Truth can be difficult, especially when it conflicts with your "peter pan" view of the world.
Way to represent! From a KSU 'Cat fan. Purple and Proud. There's absolutely no call to diss a school like that, and I wondered if someone from Alabama would object when I read that.
So prove me wrong, Huckleberry.
"The flip side of the coin is they need to stop killing each other and committing crimes but in order for that to happen we are going to have to help them out. "
Oh, poor minorities! They just can't help but kill themselves and be criminals without wonderful, evolved white people to come help the poor savages.
DO YOU REALLY THINK LIKE THIS?!?! YOU, sir, are DEFINITELY part of THE PROBLEM.
You're a racist, because you think blacks and hispanics can't help themselves and need whites to do it for them. You must be a liberal.
"Disorderly conduct" in this case meaning not being sufficiently deferential to a police officer. How rich that you're leaping to the cop's defense, since every other post here is about how you're all a band of fierce, teabagging revolutionaries ready to overthrow the government over some hallucinated slight. But let a black man raise his voice to a cop, and suddenly authority should never be questioned.
I did just that yesterday afternoon. Let 'em come visit.
Anyone really concerned about the "Gates-Gate" should write to the Cambridge Mass PD and request that Sergeant Crowley not stoop so low as to accept the invite to the BHO house.
Their email addresses can be found by doing a search on the above mentioned PD.
You need to be minority, militant, racist against whites and liberal or communist to be "OK" nowadays. Didn't you get the memo?
That is why we need "hate crime" legislation to protect the 13 % of society that commits most of the crime from the 87 % who don't.
Eric Holder another flaming Black Racist.
Yes, Joe Biden made a stupid joke. And the Bush administration installed a head of the civil rights division at the justice department whose main job was the systematic disenfranchisement of minority voters. Boy, those two really are identical. Can't imagine why no minorities vote Republican anymore…
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A one in two chance that the perpetrator of a hate crime will be a white male? You do realize that the definition of a hate crime is nebulous at best? A simple murder done for a regular motive in which the perpetrator is a white male and the victim is a member of a "protected" victim group can wind up being considered a "hate crime." I have yet to hear how the black youths in the mob that attacked that white Akron family are going to be charged, but I doubt that they will have the added charge of "hate crime" added to the list despite witness testimony that had them yelling racist things as they attacked.
That's just one of the problems with your so-called numbers.
It is caused by breakdown of the family unit (thanks, liberals!), alienation from religious life and the morality it instructs people in (thanks again!), low self esteem in individuals caused by the first two things listed, and a liberal culture that glorifies violence, sex, and self-gratification.
In short, it's all the fault of the liberals'.
Thanks, the man had good sense.
That political movement was necessary to change the system. And if it took Marxists to raise the issues, then they should be proud and the rest of us should be ashamed.
As for your paranoid fantasy of dystopia, I can only urge you to actually leave the trailer park and meet some people who don't share your insane fears. You might be surprised that there are those whose politics are different from yours who are lovely people, who believe in freedom, truth, and happiness, just like sane people on the right.
I hope Gates' doesn't whine too much about how "whitey" doesn't look out for him when his place gets broken into again.
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A black or a hispanic might think only white men are racist, but there is NO way that a half n half doesn't KNOW it happens on both sides.
This is my opinion as a half breed, experiencing it from both sides, and knowing that I was stuck in the middle. Obama CHOSE to be black. He could have done so much more to address BOTH sides if he hadn't chose to be BLACK. He didn't want to unite anyone, he didn't want to address the problems of race, he wanted to play one side. He is not a uniter.
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one thing about a topic like this is it does smoke out all the nitwits- and this one is a lynchpin… the subtext here is that THE LEFT has created a disfunctional welfare state in order to keep power and the black folk are pawns to be controlled. When given half a break African Americans excel like everyone else.
But keeping them in ghettos and allowing a flow of cheap drugs is the most 'racist' thing of all. And every leftie needs only to look in the mirror to see their culpability…
Remind all you want, but the conservatives already know these things, and the liberals… well, the liberals control the MSM, and keeping the blacks and hispanics IGNORANT of these inconvenient little facts is in their best interest! In fact, if most blacks and hispanics KNEW these things, the DNC would evaporate. (Then the "moderate, big-tent" GOP could become the 'New DNC", and the conservative party would be the "new GOP".)
No, knowledge of these things is absolutely NOT allowed to reach blacks. The DNC will keep pandering and keep those monorities properly oppressed.
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If anyone is looking for their irony, it's lost on Joe here.
Yes, Eric Holder's DOJ! They know you must not let things like armed voter intimidation cause a couple of militant black men to serve prison time! Right ON!!
I've complained loudly and often about this kind of silly censorship.
Brietbart's people are employing a form of political correctness in blocking the word "kneegrow" without any regard to context.
They should be ashamed. If it's "ID" and not "BH" that's doing this, they should use a different system. I've posted to other boards than this one and they worked just fine.
"Hate crimes" are another stupid liberal construct. ALL crimes can be "hate crimes". Only whites can be guilty of hate crimes.
BTW, you're "innocent" until you give a cop attitude over nothing and make an ass of yourself to get publicity. The display of a drivers' license, and a "thanks for looking out for my stuff, officer" would've made this whole thing a non-incident.
People like you who blame whitely and conservatives for everything are really the ones causing society's most grievous problems.
I 100% support the police in the Gates case. But your initial statistic (Black people 7X more likely to commit crime) is very troubling and misleading:
I was glad to see such a clearly defined number and so I followed the link for additional details, and was quite stunned at what I found. The numbers were created by a group (or person) called The New Century Foundation. Which appears to be a hard-core, white liberation society that is anti-immigrant, anti-minority, and especially anti-black.
Numbers are supposed to be incontrovertible, but these are clearly outdated and skewed. I'm sure the true statistics are bad and unfavorable to blacks (and hispanics), but the figure you site is based on statistics going back to 1980 even, before the huge influx of hispanics.
I'd like to accept the group's figures but it's clear that they went looking for certain conclusions and then found them.
Going to a group like this for figures on race is like going to Hugo Chavez for an assessment of the U.S..
I'm still looking for an objective, believable and current summary of those statistics. But the fact that you went to a group like This for your argument says more about you, than it does about the subject.
Look, stupid…
Black people CAN and DO get charged with hate crimes. Case in point:
http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?sto...
Now despite your delusional thinking, there is no legal definition of a "protected" group, but there is a legal definition of a hate crime and it goes as such:
http://definitions.uslegal.com/h/hate-crime/
When you read it (if you can) this means that anyone can be tried and convicted of said offense. Quit playing the victim, you clod.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, there spudley. White Americans did not create this problem-bigots did!!! As for stealth segregation and economic class warfare, you have ONLY THE DEMOCRATS AND liberals to blame!!! Consult your history books or read 'The Big Black Lie' by the wonderful Kevin Jackson, blogger extraordinaire.
Actually they are correct, those statistics at the site you linked are not adjusted for percentage of population, while blacks only account for half of all murders they represent about 15% of the total population. The site Steven used is using the same DOJ staistics adjusted for percentage of populattion.
Okay, good news, I hope.
I just verified The List (see below). There has been some improvement, some of the more stupidly blocked words now work, so someone at ID must be taking notice. Good example of that, "Breitbart" has ceased being banned so we can again link directly to the site. Also boy (example: boyfiriend), cross (across), and dick (a name) are legal again.
However, The List now looks less like a misguided attempt at avoiding potentially offending words and more like some moron's grudge list. Which is, of course, what happens with censorship.
BTW, please stop blaming Andrew. If he stops using ID then the old threads will get lost. As it stands ID is not totally horrible, and at least there has been some effort made to improve things with some results, showing they are responsive to complaints, as opposed to the federal government for example.
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Examples posted are using a single letter in italics to bypass automatic filtering.
Any part of the word in another word causes rejection.
anal – blocks analogy, banal, IANAL etc
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fag – blocks faggot etc
jew – blocks jewelry etc
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terry – blocks the name Terry (Gilliam!)
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And that misspelling of that African country where you use two "gees" instead of one.
You know, what gets me is how that question had to be planted…I swear I could see the drool on the corner of the Bamster's mouth as he waited in anticipation. Of course, with that question and answer, all the light is now turned to this and not on his health scare scam.
I'll refrain from saying what I really want to say out of what small respect I have for the current presidency, but what kind of professional begins by saying "I'll admit I don't have all the facts" and then goes on a tirade about how race was absolutely without a doubt the motivating factor in this case.
The correct answer, had he not been chomping at the bits to slam our brave police officers and America in general (yet again), would be, "I'm afraid I don't have all the facts, and therefore decline any comment on the matter. I trust that the police officer was acting in good faith and leave it to local officials to decide what did in fact happen".
3.5 years left of this nonsense. 3.5 years.
actually, i'm in favor of replicating the system used by colleges and universities vis-a-vis part-time faculty. i won't go into the teacher's union issue, but will only suggest that if we were able to utilize the specific skills of certain teachers who could come in and specialize in certain areas, we would save money, have high-quality, real-world qualified teachers who were able to focus on narrowly-defined areas, and would not be as susceptible to the kinds of professional burnout that we see rampant among today's public school teachers.
oh c'mon. take a deep breath and write what you've got to say. even through i'm a dreaded lefty, we can still have a reasoned, respectful discussion. the true sign of a healthy democracy is when opposing viewpoints regularly participate in vigorous discourse. that's why i'm here.
Actually you are PRESUMED innocent until proven guilty, which can be an important legal distinction. Note also this applies to legal proceedings, not investigative work. The investigator must assume someone has done something then proceeds to remove possible suspects from consideration by essentially finding them innocent. Likewise a prosecutor must assume someone is guilty before asking the court for proceedings to legally establish the guilt. If presumption of innocence truly was the law of the land throughout the system, then our system of justice would cease to exist.
Okay, why has "wr1" decided to wait so long before spewing talking points the other trolls gave up on days ago? Did his mommy finally give him back his computer privileges?
Personally, I think "hate crime" is just a reason to cry more please. A crime is a crime. Tacking the monicker of "hate" onto it is just an excuse to try to elevate the victim and somehow make them more special than other victims of the same crime.
An assault is still an assault motive aside. The victim of one assault suffered the same crime as the victim of another, and the idea that one victim suffered any worse because their attacker yelled things that hurt their feelings is no excuse to try to make that assault two crimes – a hate crime and an assault – rather than one.
So get over yourself.
Hours later, and I still do not know what the hell you are talking about. Correct for race? "Race" is the identifier in the statistics, how do you "correct" the identifier?
we do not hail from a 'trailer park' and our fears are not insane. It is the absolutism of you lefties and your humanistic hubris that we find troubling. You wouldn't know freedom if it bit you in the rear end because you think it grows on trees- or is to be distributed 'evenly' by bureaucrats. Marxism is an ugly belief that it's 'useful idiots' (you?) don't understand- until it's too late…
Harris, get over these.
The reason we have hate crime laws is to serve as a detriment to actual crime that is targeted at a person or persons because of their race, gender or sexual orientation. Hence a skinhead who attacks a Vietnamese student gets charged not only for being a violent sleazebag, but for targeting him because he is Vietnamese.
It's not for elevating the victim, it's for serving victim's rights, or have you never heard that term before.
You smelly queef.
I live in FL, and the Miami Herald and others investigated these claims and found nothing. Post proof or piss off, wr. Asking for ID when you vote isn't disenfranchisement, either.
*MissQuinn*
Hey Staff, I just took raw numbers from a Dept. of Justice abstract, a large table of stats. I didn't cherry pick them either, I was impossible to do that anyway. The numbers were from 1979 forward and were very simular except that the black on white stat had grown some. So it was very specific, I didn't bother with say, Pacific Islanders v. white of whatever since Steven really wasn't addressing other than African-American to make his points.
"Your article while being truthful, has no historical context and is thus counterproductive."
Translation from "Liberalese" to English: "You're telling the truth, but it doesn't fit into our politically correct, myopic worldview. So, uh….SHUTUP!"
Typical response from a typical left wing troll.
Oh, and I believe that it was Mr. Holder (your guy's pick for AG) that said Americans are afraid to talk about race. It would seem, based on your response, that some people are afraid to talk about it when the African American is clearly the racist. Simply put, race is an important and relevant topic just so long as the white guy is the racist.
Just a thought.
By implying the violence of these neighborhood, you're proving his point. Nice work, Paul
*MissQuinn*
By implying the violence of these neighborhoods, you're proving his point. Nice work, Paul
*MissQuinn*
Like the late, great Det. Joe Friday used to say, "just that the facts, m'am, just the facts."
Was Michael Vick poor when he committed his crimes? OJ Simpson? When Obama was a student at Harvard and was parking illegally and getting tickets for it was he poor? Or was he just an idiot who didn't care about the rule of law and ignored his tickets for over 20 years? I work with the police every day and guess what? The majority of crimes that come across my desk are committed by minorities, that's a fact. Don't let facts get in the way of your agenda though.
If I am shot because I am black or bisexual, I'm still shot. It's nice you gave the person an extra decade to think about what he did, but . . .I don't think people commit crimes out of love.
Just saying.
*MissQuinn*
Hey I'm no fan of putting black people on welfare. I think it's the worst thing to happen to us since slavery.
For some, in fact, it's a type of slavery. But I think both the left and the right made mistakes when it comes to that, and have been blaming each other for 40 years at the expense of black people.
The best thing that we can do is get rid of so much state in black communities, and that includes boorish cops. Let black folks learn to "do for self". Every civil rights leader since Booker T. Washington has called for that and I think it's time we revisited his "Up From Slavery" once again.
Actually my point buttresses Steven Crowder's point. The African American community disproportionately commits violent crime to a ratio of a about 70% of violent crime committed by roughly 13% of the population. Now if was to break down the number of embezzelment cases, guess what? Mostly white collar white guys! Of course liberal apoplogists what to excuse the issue in the African American community as by products of poverty and racial inequality that no longer hold water. Rosa Parks wasn't wrongly kicked out of the "Whites Only" section of that bus last month. It's been GENERATIONS and, according to all empirical evidence, the "being black in America" experience has deteriorated in regards to higher participation in crime and crime related violence. I didn't do it, I just spent 10 minutes looking up the data.
It sometimes takes awhile for ACORN checks to get posted; wr1 had to then contact the electric co. to get the power turned back on. Living off the wage-earners is not always easy!
I think in PA the limit was set at three miles of travel (giving you that long to pass) before you either get in the right lane or make a left turn. Not that anyone really cares, that law is receiving as much "civil disobedience" as turning on your headlights if you have your wipers on. Yes, Harrisburg gave us that one, no, daytime running lights do not count, and yes, that is even for when you hit the washer button and are just wiping off some crud. More "feels good, sounds good" gifts from our creepy Uncle Ed.
Notice when race-baiters get called out for their accusations, and there is evidence that there was no real racism involved, they always want everyone else to "move on", or "stop obsessing", or "get on with life". Or they say "this is a teaching moment". (Not a teaching moment for the race-baiters, though, in case anyone is confused. It's a teaching moment for whitey. Whitey is supposed to learn not to protest when he is called a racist without cause.)
Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are harming race relations.
Louis Farrakhan and Rev. Wright are harming race relations.
Sonia Sotomajor is harming race relations.
Barack Obama is harming race relations.
Every person who blames another race for THEIR problems, their neighborhood's problems and their culture's problems is harming race relations.
The ills of the African American community can be traced back to LBJ's failed "War on Poverty" and "Great Society" programs crafted with an eye cast backwards to FDR "New Deal" programs. Trillions of dolars have been spent, or rather transfered from middle and upper income level taxpayers to a multitude of social welfare programs. Not all of these programs are "evil" per se, but they have no doubt sapped the incentive for the "poor" to attempt to improve their own lot in life without a hand streched toward one program or another. I could go on and on about this redistrubution of wealth, but I won't here.
Well, then it was his fault for not being a good little liberal to begin with. If he had stopped being selfish and really wanted to save the planet, he would already have set up the solar panels and not had that problem.
The ills of the African American community can be traced back to LBJ's failed "War on Poverty" and "Great Society" programs crafted with an eye cast backwards to FDR's "New Deal" programs. Trillions of dolars have been spent, or rather transfered from middle and upper income level taxpayers to a multitude of social welfare programs. Not all of these programs are "evil" per se, but they have no doubt sapped the incentive for the "poor" to attempt to improve their own lot in life without a hand streched toward one program or another. I could go on and on about this redistrubution of wealth, but I won't here.
The ills of the African American community can be traced back to LBJ's failed "War on Poverty" and "Great Society" programs crafted with an eye cast backwards to FDR's "New Deal" programs. Trillions of dollars have been spent, or rather transfered from middle and upper income level taxpayers to a multitude of social welfare programs. Not all of these programs are "evil" per se, but they have no doubt sapped the incentive for the "poor" to attempt to improve their own lot in life without a hand streched toward one program or another. I could go on and on about this redistrubution of wealth, but I won't here.
you bet. There is more than enough blame to go around. Yet for some reason it's always liberal democrats who side with the notion that these people 'need help'. And that help comes with quite a price tag- your own individual identity…
You have it nailed Papa Ray. As a teacher see it all the time. Kids whose parents have "taught" them that they are "oppressed" so don't have do anything in school – and that all the teachers are "racist" for trying to make them learn something. Try talking sense to a 300 lb 3rd gen welfare big-momma who screams that the mo-fo teachers in that mo-fo school are failing her kids cause they is all white racists, kids who did nothing in class all year (with big-momma's blessing) but sleep, talk, thow spit-wads, and generally keep anyone around them from learning anythng too. Then wonder why you see these kids a few years later standing on street corners contemplating how much cash may be in the drawer at the local Seven-Eleven, because they read at a 3rd grade level and can barely write their name – so are basically unemployable.
"We, them, we, them, we, them"… U.S………..A
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Ya, I guess. But I yearn for the days when we were not judged by the color of our skin but by the content of our hearts.
Oh, that was a good one you slipped in there. Let us get rid of the boorish cops, replace them with those who are sensitive, understanding of the plight of the economically distressed, who will ignore their many bags of crack and applaud their efforts to financially better themselves in the only manner they can conceive of besides being a rap star or athlete.
Crime is crime, do the time.
So all economically distressed (read 'black') people carry bags of crack, right? And their only aspiration is becoming a rap star or athlete right?
I'm willing to bet you've never been around very many "economically distressed" people.
And I'm more likely to respond better to a sensitive cop (many of whom I count among my friends), than a jerk with a badge.
Yeah, I feel the whole 'give 'em help because they're not capable of helping themselves' is a load of crap, and it's pretty bigoted to me.
The best thing you can do for a guy is teach him to row with his own paddles. The water's rough, but we all learn to navigate eventually.
Black people are way smarter than even black people give themselves credit for.
You, me AND Dr. King. Still waiting.
Obama has been SUCH a disappointment on so many fronts.
As far as dropping the charges: Gee I guess it must be because Gates "the racebaiter" was innocent and not because Obammy, the Governor, the mayor came out in support of Gates. At least be a little honest in talking about why the charges were dropped. Let's face it, the white cop will be there drinking a beer only because Obammy needed a token white to move the conversation along.
I did not know one could put solar panels on a cardboard box.
Yes, and at one point Russia was ruled by the Czars and England was ruled by royalty. Things change. Southern Democrats were shamefully in favor of segregation, which is why they all left the party when LBJ pushed through civil rights legislation and Nixon courted them by saying he was against any kind of integration. Look it up.
Funny, we're responding to a post that started out "Prior to LBJ's Great Society," and went on to talke about the happy racial paradise that existed in the country then. That's why people here are discussing the 60s. But you're probably right. We should all ignore everything that happened in this country before you went to high school History can't affect the present in any way.
It's kind of sad that you're so bereft of reason you keep repeating the same lame insults about anyone who fails to share your paranoid ideology. "Mommy's basement," "ACORN checks." It would be nice if could explain why you're ready to secede from the union simply because a black man is president while at the same time insisting that obedience to authority is essential at all times. But that would require you to think through what you believe, which is much harder than reciting phrases you've read on other blogs.
I guess you've forgotten Jeb Bush's systematic disenfranchisement of anyone whose name was vaguely similar to that of a felon, as long as they lived in minority neighborhoods.
It's kind of sad that you're so bereft of reason you keep repeating the same lame insults about anyone who fails to share your paranoid ideology. "secede from the union," "racist." It would be nice if you could explain why your ideological cohorts were ready to expatriate simply because Bush was President while at the same time insisting that your patriotism should never be questioned. But that would require you to think through what you believe, which is much harder than reciting phrases you've read on other blogs and Keith Olbermann's show.
"There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs-partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs."
Booker T. Washington, 1911.
Booker T. Washington said it best 98 years ago!!!
Strange. Planet_Hero stops posting, wr1 starts up. While somewhat restrained compared to PH, there are still insults involving trailer parks, paranoia, racism, "…secede from the union simply because a black man is president…," "…ready to overthrow the government…," and assorted "requiring you to think, which you find so hard"-type remarks. Sit back, contemplate, seems like the same song but sounds different, like a live performance can differ from a studio set although it is the same artist.
You know, Planet_Sub complained he could not post over here. Although he clearly could do so anonymously as BH allows unregistered comments.
Curious.
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There's a huge difference between learning from history and clinging to it. I've studied enough history to know our nation has experienced tremendous progression over the decades. Have you? Motions were made in the 60s, real motions, laws and the like, designed to create a better, more diverse and pluralistic society, one based on fairness for all, right? That's what all of those motions were for, correct? What's good in making the motions if you're telling me we never go anywhere, if we never change and forever remain just as tired and ugly as ever? Why even try? And why, I ask you, should I even bother, if you're only ever going to tell me what someone was doing before I was even born, as if I am the same as that old person? You call me a racist, even as you label and dismiss me as nothing more than a White person. I will continue to live in a different world than you, perhaps. I don't dismiss people based on their race. Never have, never will. Can you say the same?
I like the fact that Obama's knee jerk reaction exposed his racist underbelly. We couldn't have painted a truer picture of the man who would be our 'Post Racial' President.. Followed by the fact that Obama invited Jim Crowley to have a 'beer' with him revealed even more. So now who is the racist, condecending asshole besides Gates in this picture?
"economic class warfare"
Yes! That is exactly what is happening in Washington now.
Indeed. Maybe even nirvana.
IF he used the word Neg** in the quote, the censor will delete it.
Were complaints filed, people charged, and evidence beyond hearsay brought forth? Didn't think so. I tend to forget dead end items. Just a quirk I have.
*MissQuinn*
Look, dummy. YOU are the one who came withe the "economically distressed" and "bags of crack" garbage, which would lead me to believe you are further perpetuating a stereotype.
Learn to write with syntax and you won't have to worry about sounding foolish.
Nah….I don't drink with racists and the cop shouldn't either!
So you're saying that it's a cop's job to assume that you're guilty? If that's the case, then why didn't Crowley just shoot Gates and his driver to death?
If it's within the law to just kill people because you THINK they've done something wrong, then why shouldn't the police just walk around peeling people's caps back?
I don't know why you people scream "smaller government" until cases dealing with people you don't like, then it's 'lock up all the colored people you can.'
spot on, brother- spot on. We have seen them overachieve wth stunning regularity. Bush was right about 'the soft bigotry of low expectations…'
And that also is factually incorrect for all that the Left loves to shove that meme around. The Republicans had and continue to have no more racist people than the Democrats. They're not the ones who go around making cracks about how you can't go into 7-11s without an Indian accent for example or talking about how there's finally a clean and articulate black man running for President.
Well, there wasn't much of an appeals process, since many people didn't know they had been fraudulently stricken from voter rolls until they showed up at the polls. And of course, the great thing about picking on the poor is that they don't really have a big voice that wil be heard if they complain.
Fact is, many of those people were restored to the rolls after a lawsuit — but only after the election. Convenient, that.
What did Obama inviting Crowley to the White House reveal? And why did you put beer in quotes? You think Obama's going to trick him and serve him Ovaltine instead?
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Maybe so, but that's not my style.
Since I'm not a sentimental lout, and immune to your sel-righteous whining, I would like to hear the flipside of this story. Yes, I want to hear the officer's side of this particular argument. Judging from your nasty attitude, I can't help but wonder if it wasn't a precursor to the ole Professor Gates scenario. I'm not sorry to say that either, as you certainly have a problem with people.
Loose the chip on your shoulder…it looks bad and can just get you into trouble.
Depends on the President!
Joe would consider the "white" president a racist.
But if the president was a "non-white" community organizer ,Joe would consider it a learning opportunity for all the evil white heirs of former slave holders.
I agree in theory but it will not happen.
Obammy needs his token white there eventhough we all know neither Gates nor Bammy has really changed their minds.
Wow, so statistics prove your racial bias is correct!
Congratulations, you are a racist. And the rest of us can't wait until you and your commenters are considered "unemployable".
Watch, as your world becomes smaller and smaller : )
So in effect, the victim is more special because he's Vietnamese and therefore, his attacker is charged with two crimes as opposed to random schmo who is assaulted and has hateful things yelled at him during the assault but because they may be of the same ethnicity there is no "hate" involved? Why should one victim have more rights than the other?
If someone commits a crime, the crime is committed. No one motive is any more or less foul or reprehensible than any other. All are equally odious. The crime is still committed.
And stooping to ad hominem attacks like that really doesn't do anything except weaken your case.
The ills of the African American community can be traced back to LBJ's failed "War on Poverty" and "Great Society" programs crafted with an eye cast backwards to FDR's "New Deal" programs. Trillions of dollars have been spent, or rather transfered from middle and upper income level taxpayers to a multitude of social welfare programs, then on to the poor. Not all of these programs are "evil" per se, but they have no doubt sapped the incentive for the "poor" to attempt to improve their own lot in life without a hand streched out toward one program or another. I could go on and on about this redistribution of wealth, but I won't here.
Hey Joe
You haven't answered my question from a previous thread. I'll try again:
Put yourself in the police officer shoes. How would you have handled the situation, at that moment, based on Gates reaction? Be honest. Tell me. Please. I know you won't.
Joe . . . . . . joe . . . . . hello . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Yeah, as much as I hated Bush, this was one of his gems that I think a lot of people missed.
In fact, I invented new slang for it: Lo-X. In other words, people who accepted and lived by low expectations of them. Hey man, I'm black, I dig being black, and I LOVE black people and I don't apologize for it. But part of loving your own ethnic group ('race' is an unscientific term) is to believe that they can achieve the very best.
As much as I enjoy hip hop (in fact, I'm blasting Dead Prez right now), I know that it's just entertainment. I don't internalize it, the way many black youth have been taught to do. Perhaps poverty plays a role in that, for young people living in the 'hood, there isn't any other progressive culture outside of hip hop.
So I argue with the racists on these boards because while they think blacks are inferior, I feel we're just as good as anyone else. The problem is in convincing blacks of that same thing. Does that mean I'm on a crusade against Jesse and Al? No, but I don't agree with them on everything, either. And contrary to what people on Breitbart will tell you, they don't have some magical spell over black folk, directing them to plot against white dudes.
Yeah, the racism is out there, institutionalized and otherwise. I know because I've experienced it. It's as overt as a cop shooting an innocent man in the back as he lay face down on the ground in a San Francisco train station, and as subtle as citizens diverting funds and resources from schools in poor black neighborhoods in Brooklyn to be used in wealthy white neighborhoods in Queens.
But even though it's there, we've got to face it and take responsibility for conquering it through our own successes, rather than waiting for white people to fix it, which is about as likely as us getting our 40 Acres and a Mule.
So if you want a prescription for black people, here it is:
1) Quit listening to haters. The whole purpose of them even opening their mouths is to make you believe you're less than you really are.
2) At the end of the day, where you wind up is up to YOU. Nobody can judge that better than YOU.
3) Three things are yours and no one else has the right to them: your body, your mind, and your money…use them wisely.
4) If you're going to hold your nuts with your left hand, at least hold your degree with your right hand.
5) No matter how much the white man hates you, it's more important that you love yourself (actually words of wisdom from my uncle).
nicely written…
don't confuse racialism with racism- it is common for folk to want to hang with their own- and whites are no exception. We have travelled far and wide and don't really see any hatred between the races; a lot of it is 'ginned up' so politicians and race hustlers like reverend Al can control people and/or make a buck. As a matter of fact we actually think race relations to be quite good here- better than Europe- or the Middle East… so, be proud, be independent and keep the faith!
Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
You do an excellent job of showing off the biases you have accepted even as you rail against them.
So ALL "economically distressed" people carry bags of crack? Why did you assume that is what I thought? Is it because "all white people think that"? If you do not like false stereotypes then do not traffic in them, at all. Why did you not assume I was referring to a crack dealer on the street that can be observed doing business by an officer? You argue that black people should be given the benefit of the doubt while you yourself seem unwilling to extend it and automatically assume the worst possible motive.
How can what you said be true anyway? If all black people have bags of crack, and what was being mentioned was bettering one's self financially, then all of those with bags would be attempting to sell for profit, that is they would be dealers. Thus the concept as you mentioned it would ultimately be that all black people are crack dealers.
So you just called your President a crack dealer. Good job.
*sigh*
Yeah, I can see how you "play the game." Keep looking for prejudice until you find it, even if you have to make it yourself.
It is a simple matter of logic. You do not investigate someone whom you know is innocent, that you know did nothing wrong. You investigate someone whom you think might not be innocent, that you think may have done something wrong. If you presume everyone is innocent then you assume no one has committed a crime.
So how do you proceed with an investigation? There is a dead body with bullet wounds, you know they died from them, but you must assume that no one has committed a crime. What is left? You investigate if a weapon was accidentally discharged when someone dropped it? If someone was doing careless target shooting a mile away? Only after eliminating every other possibility is the officer then finally allowed to come to the conclusion that yes, someone did commit a crime?
No! Law enforcement must presume someone is guilty, during the investigation they rule out other possible reasons, then they investigate until finding whomever it is they assume is guilty. The prosecutor then acts from the position the person is guilty and goes to show that in a court of law. "Presumption of innocence" then takes effect. Rather than the accused having to prove they are innocent, it is presumed they are and the prosecutor has to convince the court otherwise.
"Presumption of innocence" is a legal construct to shift the burden of proof to the prosecution, it is not a blanket statement that directs law enforcement nor a description of reality. Crowley arrived because it was presumed someone was guilty of breaking and entering, he had to assume Gates could be guilty of it until shown otherwise. So, why did not Crowley just shoot Gates to death?
Too much paperwork. Duh.
Then there is the stereotype of the race-baiter who will pursue any little thing they can possibly view as a slight, intentional or not, and decry it as obvious full-blown racism thus justifying their own biases to themselves.
So, did you get that internship with Rev. Al yet? Just send him the link to this article and your screen name so he can read all your comments, you will get the job, easily.
Hey, you can't quote a correct statistic and expect to get away with it.
The mob will be at your house tonight.
while I dont agree with the way Crowely handled the situation and at the same time totally disagree with how Gates behaved, as a black man myself I will tell you all this unless you have been in our shoes and faced racism in your face when u know you are in the right!!
for example getting pulled over and the cop is looking at your information and everything is saying its your car! and the cop keep asking u "is this your car sir" They u can tell me that there are no racist Cops.
while I dont agree with the way Crowely handled the situation and at the same time totally disagree with how Gates behaved, as a black man myself I will tell you all this unless you have been in our shoes and faced racism in your face when u know you are in the right!!
I love you girl, I love you girl…
I love you girl, I love you girl…
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— Booker T. and the MGs
Since I'm not a sentimental lout, and immune to your self-righteous whining, I would like to hear the flipside of this story. Yes, I want to hear the officer's side of this particular argument. Judging from your nasty attitude, I can't help but wonder if it wasn't a precursor to the ole Professor Gates scenario. I'm not sorry to say that either, as you certainly seem have a problem with people.
Lose the chip on your shoulder…it looks bad and can just get you into trouble.
How about a forthright and unpretentious apology? i don't think a 'beer' is enough, implies Obama is ‘lowering himself’ to meet with a redneck whiteguy and it smacks of liberal condescension. Bush would have sent a personal envoy to invite Jim to the Whitehouse for dinner to apologise and smooth things over. Also a fine wine is in order to show respect. I am surprised you didn't get that. Say, are you a liberal by chance?
Wasn't there a little scene from South Park about hate crimes? Doubt it would penetrate into Joe's thick neutronium skull, but it might be worth a shot.
I don't know why you people scream "smaller government" until cases dealing with people you don't like, then it's 'lock up all the colored people you can.'
More like you will prop up a strawman and beat the heck out of the poor fellow. Maybe you should be brought up on hate crime charges.
Leftist trolls are so… generic.
Same scripts, same general boorish behavior, same rows of strawmen propped up and mercilessly slaughtered.
But how long ago was that?
I didn't quite make my point clearly. I was trying to point out how far we have come since then. Are there any 'white institutions' left?
Well, that's the thing…if you can ignore racism, then it puts you in a position where you see things differently than blacks. But I remember days where there were certain parts of town where I couldn't go as a kid, because I was risking violent attack…with precedent as proof.
As a black kid, that was my reality. If you're white, you don't even have to think about that because nothing will happen to you. This is why blacks are so apprehensive about race, because of living with a history like that. Some say "get over it," but that's easier said than done, especially if you haven't walked a mile in my shoes.
On the other hand, if you have lived your life with the ability to completely blow things like that off, then also insist that of others, like you know them, that makes us VERY frustrated.
That's why I can't stand pricks like the dude who wrote this original article. They are so judgemental and all-knowing because they think being white gives them this magical wisdom about how people are supposed to think and behave. Their experiences don't matter, they should just think and behave like white guys (who are cast in the image of God), and everything will be okay.
But put this dude in dark skin and turn him loose in the projects for one day and I'll bet he'll change his tone.
No, I'm not claiming the victim mantle, but I just hate it when whites think they know what's best for us. And I hate it even more when we believe it.
Sorry DazedMae,
You're a liar. I've seen your posts. You're one disgusting, dishonest person.
Piss off.
all salient points…
Crowder is a bomb thrower- this post was meant to get folks talking, like you and I- and maybe something good can come from it. Listen, we grew up in the city and there were area we couldn't go to as well- for fear of bodily harm. We also worked early in our life with blacks and received many important lessons about what makes a man. the same goes for military service. Soon it came apparent that it is what is inside of a man that makes him tick, not his race or heritage… we live in the greatest country in recorded history but that doesn't mean we're perfect. But we maintain things are getting better, not worse. Just as we are certain that you are a good man whose company we would most likely enjoy.
Sure, whites are a majority and enjoy some privilege. But travel the world and you will soon see that because of the concept of American exceptionalism- rugged individualism- that becomes the greates equalizer man has ever known. You can literally do anything- if you set your mind to it…
You have a good and original voice. Stick around and contribute more…
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So what we're really saying here is that we're all people (I know I'm getting all 80s with the Depeche Mode 'People Are People, So Why Should It Be…')
But it's true. I've lived in a couple different foreign countries and the xenophobia in some of these places is comparable to racism here. What people should realize is that we're all imperfect…and maybe sometimes having a beer and sitting down to talk, really frankly, and actually listening would go a long way.
I'd just pick a better place than the White House to do it. There are some really nice places in Georgetown, but I digress.
Things, despite what you might hear, are actually getting better. Trust me, I get along much better with whites than I did when I was in college (granted, I went to college with skinheads and active Klan members).
So really it'll take a few proressives, like you, who can lead by example. From a historical standpoint, that's what really works. Legislation, policy, etc., that's all just window dressing.
we just had a couple of beers and some yummy crab soup at Clyde's last week, speaking of Georgetown… Annapolis was good as well.
Like Depeche Mode too- how about Bad Brains for an 80's band?
keep posting!
A slight? Please bro, nothing you could say would hurt my feelings. This, after all, is only an Internet message board.
It ain't that serious.
You should try working with Rev. Al. For all his faults at least he shows a bit of humility. That's something you could learn from him.
and LBJ with his 'Great Society' farce spent trillions stacking these poor folk on top of eachother in projects and rewarding out of wedlock births and giving them just enough money to rob them of their individuality and keep them in cheap drugs.
You can look that up as well…
<<You do not investigate someone whom you know is innocent, that you know did nothing wrong. >>
With that, you prove my point!
Crowley, upon seeing that Gates did nothing wrong (as he was IN HIS OWN HOME), should have ended his investigation. But somehow, strangely, Gates winds up in handcuffs.
Now why is that?
Oh, I don't know, because he was shouting at the nice cop, calling him a racist, saying things about his mother, making a scene and being a public nuisance outside his house…
Go back to your little privileged entitlement world where a white cop is presumed guilty because he is white and a black person is innocent regardless because he is black. You cannot handle reality.
Sub is special, he makes it a personal crusade. Admitted he came from a "dead-end Red state town." As they say, that explains everything. Gay, anti-Christian, sounds like he was rejected. Thus the eugenics comments, labeling conservatives as stupid trailer park dwellers, saying they should all be hauled off for re-education to learn how to live as "proper people," etc. Maybe if they had been smarter, better educated, they would have accepted him, etc.
After he revealed his origins, I lost interest in fighting him for several days. All of it is now so obvious, well, I could not help pitying him. All puffed up in denial, saying anything possible to set himself up as exactly opposite and something completely different from "his people" and so much more superior, it is pathetic.
But then, well, he was still a stupid ass who needed to be knocked down a few pegs, so… Like my new Anti-PH Red-state avatar?
Honey, that's fine. God knows I'm clean. Good luck with that hate sweetie. Even Christ had his persecutors. Pick on the dumb blond that doesn't care a Popsicle lick in Hell what you lie about.
And lowered poverty by huge amounts. The right has been trying to reverse that ever since.
Right, Because anyone who doesn't jump up and insist that the white guy is always right is racist.
I don't know what you call "reality," but your use of meth doesn't help.
I keep telling you guys that Gates was in his house, and actually never left the premises. If you look at the news photos, he was on his porch in cuffs. So this means, HIS RIGHTS WERE STILL IN EFFECT.
So can you show me the statute, law or ordinance that says you can't get loud (even with a cop) at your own house?
I think you're the one living in a little privileged world because you certainly have a bloated, vainglorious sense of self-entitlement that preaches to you that black CITIZENS don't have more rights than the state, but whites certainly do.
Yup, you remain incapable of reasoned debate, and now accuse me of using drugs. Fine, people should be judged by their abilities and you have demonstrated yours. So go back to your crack pipe and keep telling yourself how it is always someone else's fault. Good bye.
of course, you'd expect it in the political-correctness-run-amok bay area, but a local news broadcast reporting on a recent series of rapes in berkeley advised the public to be on the lookout for the perp who is "a man..wearing jeans" … thank goodness they avoided any racial profiling, but weren't they being rather jean-ist ??
I've been a cop for 33 years. Cops don't expect everyone to understand what we are looking for at such calls but suffice it to say that the main stream media doesn't have a clue. We're taught on a daily basis that nothing is as it seems and our job is to save lives, protect ourselves, and other officers responding. I could articulate a dozen reasons why Gates was arrested but suffice it to say it was legal and proper. My mission, in this particular instance is to let the public know that race relations within the law enforcement community is a lot better than that of the rest of the country. We respect each other and would lay down our lives for each other. The reason for this is simple. We have to cut through all the bologna to protect each other and keep each other alive. We feel each other's pain whether or not we admit it, and we are always watching out for each other. The rest of the country could take a lesson.
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(YAWN), of course rather than answering my question, you go off on some non-semantical tangent. Yeah, the crack joke was really funny. I must have struck a chord with you — maybe you ARE on meth.
You make my point clear.
Hi hater.
Bye hater.
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PS: 94% of black murder victims between 1976 and 2005 were killed by blacks. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm#ov...
The data show that most murders are intraracial.
no- it increased poverty by huge amounts- in the late 50's the income disparity between balcks and whites was much closer- most blacks were married with jobs and homes, albeit very modest. The trend towards 'ghettoization' was started by Johnson and cost the taxpayer over 3 trillion dollars… and to what extent? In the 90's most of the high rise tenemnets were destroyed and many others were converted to buyer owned- and crime went down. By rewarding people for having babies out of wedlock and not working so you can keep them 'bunched up' for a reliable voter base is the most racist thing that ever happened.
THAT's theLeft for you…
I'm a conservative as well. But really, all I'm reading from your post is: Blacks are likely to commit crime, so they should be treated with extra suspicion. Way to lump people in groups the same way the liberals do.
I am a Republican and think the cops suck. I don't think we need cops if we were able to walk around with guns. Get out of line and pay the price. That goes for any race. Just like the Wild West days.
I read Michelle Obama's thesis and it was all about black people after higher learning should only help black people. WOW and WOW again. If a white person wrote such a racist thesis it would have been all over the news. I thought that the president of the United States was suppose to be the president of all her people. Read her thesis. We are in big trouble people. We now have a first lady(and I use the word loosely) who hates whites. Do not try to tell me that it's okay because she is not the president because he has made it clear that they (Michell and Barack) think the same. May God have mercy on us all.
Next time I break into a house, I'll tell the officer when (s)he comes exactly that. Thanks for the advice.
"BTW, the people keeping poor children out of good schools are liberals like Obama and Gates, who send their own children to the private schools they deny poor children the choice to attend."
Last time I checked, the people who set the tuition cost for their PRIVATELY owned schools were the ones who kept those without the money to pay from attending.
And, lefty moonbat though I am, I find the notion that the government should be telling private schools who they must allow to attend just a bit suspect.
I wish conservatives would wake up to the second way government robs us blind: enacting ridiculous laws that don't make us anymore safer and bankrupting those found "guilty" of these ridiculous laws. I know it looks good to be for apple pie and men in uniform, but when are we going to address the second barrier to productive citizenship- an over punitive legal system.
"lefty moonbat though I am, I find the notion that the government should be telling private schools who they must allow to attend just a bit suspect. "
You got the moonbat part right, John, but pretty much manage to miss the mark about everywhere else. There's something touchingly funny about leftie attempts to adopt such conservative poses as concern about government intervention. "Telling private schools who they must allow" indeed.
Face it–for liberals like you, 'choice' only exists at the crotch. Just about everywhere else, you demand that government limit choices in just about every nook and cranny of private life. Schooling is no exception.
In January, as the Obamas sent their girls off to Sidwell Friends Academy to join the pampered offspring of other Beltway insiders, the $790 billion Swidulous Bill stripped from the DC budget the paltry expenditures which allowed hundreds of low-income children the opportunity to escape the failing public school system which, despite the highest expenditure per pupil in the nation, has a majority of its students drop out short of graduation.
Obviously for the Obama's and the Kennedy's and the Pelosi's of this world, "Public education is for thee, but not for me." The idea of allowing people to have an actual choice in the education of their children is anathema for those who beleive that those children are really the property of the state.
this man clearly doesn't understand the meaning of disproportionate. The statement by Obama doesn't address the validity of the stops themselves but merely the action itself. It is also important to realize that the statement itself is completely true and it is important. The author of this article simply used this quote to provide spice to his opinion, an opinion which I do agree with. However, the manipulation of the President and the misrepresentation of others arguments works against our cause.
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