The Lambert Files: Middle America Once Again Proves Its Inability to Be Hip
by Pam MeisterThe recent fracas at the American Music Awards is yet another reason why I am glad I don’t go in for the mutual admiration society gatherings known as awards shows.
American Idol runner up Adam Lambert, one of the performers during the live East Coast broadcast, shocked viewers with his “pelvic-thrust[ing] … four-minute, S&M-themed routine, taking time out from singing to grope a female dancer, kiss a male musician and, most shockingly, shove a male dancer’s face into his crotch, in an act that simulated fellatio.”
Nothing like watching a little simulated fellatio to round out an evening with the family. Pass the popcorn!
Sources from the AMA claimed that those dance moves had not been part of the rehearsal, and the West Coast version of the show was edited to delete the scene. Now there’s the real scandal: trying to protect children who might be watching. If it’s good enough for the likes of the celebs in the AMA audience, it should be good enough for your 10 year old.
ABC received approximately 1,500 calls the next day from people complaining about what Lambert billed as ” a sexy song about seduction and power and I was just doing the lyrics justice.” The hicks who complained are probably the same people who did not see the poetic beauty in a “man eating, cannibalistic lesbian cheerleader.” How positively provincial. However, the plebes won and ABC also took the step of canceling Lambert’s “Good Morning America” performance. I suppose what Perez Hilton calls “c*** shock” would be a bit too much before breakfast.
Of course, Lambert was shocked in his turn that Americans would be anything but thrilled to see him in a lip lock with another guy as well as a man’s face in his crotch – according to the NY Post article linked above, he’s been “keen” to “push the boundaries” and “titillate audiences” ever since he came out of the closet. And after his AMA performance, he announced on his Twitter account: “All hail freedom of expression and artistic integrity.” Not a word about good taste.
Isn’t it amazing? Artistic integrity used to be guarded by the likes of Michaelangelo, Da Vinci, and Renoir, who wanted to delight the viewer with a tasteful but individual interpretation of the world. Now all that’s important is being offensive in the name of “freedom of expression.” We’ve certainly come a long way from Elvis’s hidden pelvic thrust on the Ed Sullivan show and parents complaining that the Fab Four’s hair was too long.
Lambert is whining that he didn’t “intend” to create controversy (BS Alert!), and it was somehow discriminatory to edit his performance when the likes of Madonna and other racy performances by women aren’t. I guess he wasn’t paying attention when NBC aired an edited version of Madonna’s concert in 2006. And how about the uproar after Janet Jackson’s so-called “wardrobe malfunction” while performing with Justin Timberlake during the Superbowl in 2004? (Side note: what IS the deal with Justin Timberlake? I can’t understand his appeal. He can’t sing and he reminds me of Screech on “Saved by the Bell.” Could someone please enlighten me?) Then there were the steamy kisses between Madonna and Britney Spears and Madonna and Christina Aguilera that had plenty of tongues wagging (and not just the ones onstage). Seems to me women catch plenty of flak when they flaunt their disdain for social mores on television.
Besides, just think of the ratings.
But since Lambert is openly gay, we may not criticize or fret for fear of being labeled homophobes. We must rejoice with him in his newly public persona and embrace any outlandish behavior in which he engages onstage – or off – because he is expressing himself in the name of Art. What do we ordinary mortals understand about Art except what we are told by those who create it? They create not for us, but for themselves. We’re just lucky enough for the chance to stand by and respectfully admire.
And it’s important that Lambert shed the goody goody image portrayed on Idol, just as Britney Spears shed her Mickey Mouse Club, schoolgirl persona and Lindsay Lohan shed – well, just about any shred of dignity she ever had. Onstage and off, sex and smut are the currency du jour in the entertainment world, even if the public isn’t buying.
So quitcher bitchin’ and enjoy Lambert’s time in the sun while you can. If you think it’s creepy seeing a man’s face in his crotch now, imagine the same scene when Lambert’s in his 60s.
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I just no longer have any interest in award shows, pretty much for the same reasons you indicate.
I am wondering how many of these "entertainers" will end up in the asylum when they don't have their looks, their tight bodies or their hair anymore. Whatever happened to true entertainment? You know, making your audience laugh and feel good? Instead of shocking them? At my age, there isn't much to be shocked about, but there is plenty to be disgusted by. Part of me feels pity for these people that they choose this route to get their names in the spotlight instead if just good ol' hard work and talent. I used to think that Janet Jackson had more talent in her little finger than Britney Spears. I liked the way she danced and she sings great. But, when the "wardrobe malfunction" happened, I realized she's just as shallow as any of them. Sad, really.
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Let us all give supreme thanks that he didn't break out his gerbil collection. In the name of Higher Art… of course.
I find it hard to believe the racier elements of the performance were added at the last minute – these routines are so choreographed, there's no way they can do that without throwing off everyone else. But ABC rushed to cover thier butts by editing the west coast version.
Funny, I thought the west coast was more receptive of this kind of let it all hang out stuff.
Lambert will suffer the consequences of his arrogance. He is an overwrought and unseemly character that makes me feel ill at this very moment. Maybe he becomes the poster child for Gay activism? I hope so.
Good Lord I am so sick of these self-indulgent little narcissists acting out. Bring back the studio system so these little meat puppets can be reigned in for the good of all (including those in Hollywood who want to continue to have an industry)
What a nasty little creature this Lambert is. We are showing societal cracks that harkens the demise of a civilization, Sodom & Gomorrah, Rome, Lois’s France, and now the USA. The good news this little creep in his decadent expositionism got a public backhand. Nobody gives a hoot-n-hell which way that kid swings, but how he sings, so STFU, and sing.
I don't watch award shows, especially musical award shows because, at their best, they're usually crap that awards other crap. I don't know why Lambert and others like him want to reinforce all the worst stereotypes we have of the gay lifestyle but it doesn't matter. His "music" is a lame rip-off of Freddie Mercury and his fifteen minutes will be up soon.
Besides being nothing more than mutual admiration societies and self-ego bolstering events for the in-crowd, watching awards shows are like seeing dogs eating each others' bodily wastes. Sickening to watch and not healthy for the dogs either.
When I was younger I used to watch the Ocsar Academy Awards because I liked to see what movies had been made. This was back in the day when movies were still good. Only sometimes was there an outlandish actor spouting their politics or doing something silly. In the mid-90s all that changed and movies were no longer worth watching. The Oscar Academy Awards became one political statement after another by hacks that infest the industry at this time.
Here is an idea. If you want to show this type of expression, fine. Let us know what the show may possibly show, then give us the option of watching it or not. You can express yourself anyway you want, but I do not have to watch it, which, like self-expression, is a right as a citizen. Just let me know what type of content might be on the show.
The author has made an interesting choice in picking Michaelangelo (sic) as poster-boy for tasteful artistic expression, considering that some of his works were considered highly obscene in his day.
I wish the gay community would make up its mind already. Do they want to be hip, decadent and edgy or loved by boring, prudish middle America? One tends to cancel out the other.
They are not artists. These people, left to their own devices, are so shallow and insipid as to defy belief. They are completely creations of corporate creativity; simply the lowest form of myth allowed. The entire 20th century was about the democratization of art (yes, among many other devolutions) so that any nincompoop picked off the street could be "made". We are there. Lambert lost, by the way, why oh why does he have the full power of the machine behind him? He looks and performs like Judy Garland, only Garland had 30 years of drug and alcohol addiction to blame. He is wretched. What he is about is money, and influence…the kind of influence that will destroy your children's (and your's) ability to ever appreciate anything other than monkey ardor.
There is no excuse for such blatant BS. The author has it exactly right. Thanks for the great write-up.
(I happen to be a straight white guy who catches a lot of flak for supporting certain gay causes.)
Ms. Meister wrote: "Nothing like watching a little simulated fellatio to round out an evening with the family. Pass the popcorn!"
That's great stuff! Sarcastic and funny as hell.
@Tempus,
Good point. The practice of "gay activities" is by definition decadent.
Ain't it strange that all these self-proclaimed "artistes" who want to "push the boundries" seem to think that we are somehow required to watch it, and even enjoy it!?!? If we don't, then we're "prudes", "Bible-thumpers", "homophobes", etc., etc., etc.
Well, if that's the case, I have a Gideon New Testament handy that I can start thumping!
I thought the show was great. However, he should have listened to people who tried to tell him the Nokia Theatre would make people who didn't lip-synch sound like crap. Hence Janet, Whitney, Green Day nor a few others sounded their best. But Adam does have talent. To bad you're bigotry blinds you to that.
I'm interested to know why you haven't complained about any other star's performances such as Janet grabbing her male dancer's crotch. Oh, I know why. Because it was hetero.
Homophobe is the right word for you. I am puzzled why so many Californian articles are so scathing, after all it is the entertainment capital of the world. Now I'm starting to wonder if it is the homophobe capital of the world too.
Adam is just starting out on his career and, unfortunately, will be making a few mistakes. However, I believe in him. He's had to endure people with narrow minds and so much self -righteousness that they feel they can put him down and call him names when they don't even know him. Open your hearts to someone who is making the path easier and the world more tolerant for one of your relatives when they have a "secret". Where they too can hold their heads up with pride and know they will be accepted. Let AdaM have his first mistake and move on. He is already being written in the history books and will be remembered for a very long time. I'm a 62 yr old grandmother who thinks this is a man who is making a change in the world for the better. How many people can say that? If you don't like him, turn him off in your world but don't take him away from the rest of us who can see how very important he is to the future.
Another nail in the coffin of the "Mainstream Entertainment" industry.
Does Hollywood ever wonder why broadcast television (and now cable as well) is being abandoned by people in favor of the internet? If broadcasters won't exercise some discretion we will do it for ourselves.
We get it guys: gay is okay. Now get up off the front lawn and take it indoors already!
As someone who never watched Idol, I have to ask. What's a Lambert?
There is a large subset of the entertainment world out there that subscribes to the idea that any publicity is good publicity, and if you show no shame whatsoever and are willing to do anything that can be considered 'shocking' in order to grab the media's attention, you can maintain your fame for years and years without producing anything of artistic merit.
Lambert's not there yet, since he hasn't shown a pattern of in-your-face (or in this case, in-your-crotch) behavior yet, but it's up to him and his handlers as to which direction he goes. If he's unable to turn out any sort of music in the future that people want to hear for the music itself, he can still maintain relevance by making "outrageousness" a big part of his act. Twenty years from no he'll have no legacy of songs anyone cares about, and a reputation that will be the gay male singer version of the circus geek who used to bite the heads off chickens, but he can make some money off of that gig. It's his call.
I don't believe it either. The Timberlake/Jackson 'wardrobe malfunction' was a *complete surprise* to the powers-that-be as well. Even though that move was obviously choreographed to the music. I find it hard to believe that the producers are really the innocent, wide-eyed, Precious Moments figurines they claim to be at these times.
Do you recognize a difference between homophobia and homorevulsion?
My God, how awfully sad. 62 years old and a grandmother to boot— and just as dumb as bubble bath.
Do you mean this Janet Jackson classy moment back in September 2008?
http://www.theinsider.com/news/1202272_Janet_Jack...
I couldn't complain about on Big Hollywood it because Big Hollywood didn't exist back then. But for the record, I think it's rude and crude no matter who does it. And another point is that it didn't happen on an awards show broadcast during prime time on a national (non-cable) network, where anyone – including young children – could be watching. See? I was right. By criticizing the incident, I am automatically branded a homophobe. Ah well. Seems some folks will never be happy until there are no boundaries anywhere and we all just do as we please…
Some of the comments are crossing the line to gay-bashing, but I don't think Pam has.
I listened to some of Lamberts album samples last night and, I'm sorry, what happened to his great voice? It sounds absolutely awful. With the album sounding alternately screechy and nasally, I'm wondering if the awful sound in the awards show is really the Nokia Theater's fault.
His album doesn't at all present the ability he showed on AI. He obviously needs guidance by someone who knows how to help him pick songs and present his talent in it's best light. This entire debacle — starting with the poorly produced, performed album and running through to the AMA performance — is NOT it.
What's homophobic in the article. Not the comments, Marilyn, but the article? It's about good taste and the accusation that someone who criticizes anything overtly gay is a homophobe. Hmmm. Did Pam pay you to illustrate her point?
I find it hard to believe that someone at the AMA didn't have a big hint this was coming from that raunchy little reptile.
I'm so sick of these people and the media that gives them a platform. I'm even more more disgusted at the tens of thousands that rushed to buy his album:
"Released on Monday through Sony Music Entertainment, "For Your Entertainment" was No. 3 on the iTunes U.S. album chart by Wednesday night. Music industry sources told Billboard magazine it is outperforming expectations and could sell about 225,000 units in its first week."
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUST...
A sad commentary on the times we live in.
In the days where a girl (Kim Khardasian) , whose greatest fame comes from her pornographic sex video, gets a cable TV deal and shows up on Dancing with the Stars. Ms. Lambert got what he wanted, publicity.
When your sexual preference is so tightly wrapped up in your identity, then you have serious problems. I think most of America is tired of making concessions for homosexuals. It's too bad the guy has to rely on tons of base make-up, pointy shoes and gay bar antics to entrtain the youth of America. The guy is talented but the pathos and drama of "alternative lifestyles" makes the eyes roll and is kinda sophomoric …not to mention already been done. What else do you have to offer, Mr. Lambert?
After being told how awful this performance was, I decided to watch it myself. Was it crude? Yes. Was it the end-of-the-world-God-is-going-to-rain-helfire-on-us performance a lot of folks are calling it? Not even remotely.
But putting all that aside, If parents are stupid enough (yes, I said STUPID) to let their children watch this crap, it's their fault. Children are the ones who are fueling the garbage entertainment today, and it's because too many parents are either clueless about what the kids are watching or listening to, or they just don't care.
To whine and moan endlessly about the children being exposed to this is just ridiculous. It all comes down to the parents taking responsibility. I don't want the government or a politicized studio system telling me what I can and cannot watch. I alone want to make the decision. I'm a big boy, and I'm more than capable of doing that for myself and for my children.
These topics always bring out the closet nanny-statists. You can always spot them by how many times they insert the phrase "young children" into their argument.
It's a odious toxic Fruit. Stay clear of it. Your not missing anything.
"Reined" in. Learn some basic third grade English, for crissake. For instance, the concept of a homonym, a word which sounds the same but means something entirely different, making you look like a drooling mouth breather.
It's interesting that you made the mistake of "you're bigotry" where you should have used "your bigotry". I've never seen that before, but it's common (I've done it myself) to use 'Your so gay' where you should have used 'You're so gay'.
"So quitcher bitchin’ and enjoy Lambert’s time in the sun while you can. If you think it’s creepy seeing a man’s face in his crotch now, imagine the same scene when Lambert’s in his 60s."
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Some things you cannot unsee!!!
I'm psuedo-phony-commercial-musicial-possuer-phobic. The guy sucks. Literally.
Exactly. Lambert got his 15 minutes extended with this little stunt. And now everyone looking for publicity will be trying something outrageous when the next "America's Music People's MTV Choice Awards" show comes along.
Another great example of how insulated the left-wing media is from mainstream america. In their cocoon of LA/San Fran/NY and now DC, they think this guy's behavior is normative. They think normal people like Carrie Prejean and Sarah Pallin are figures to hate and fear.
We need anti-trust legislation to break up these big media conglomerates and their cross-lateral deal making. A free market in the movie/TV/music industry would solve this issue. I'm tired of an elite trying to impose it's ideals on me.
Lamber's antics on a publicly, uncensored broadcast show notwithstanding – who on the earth are the morons who watch these shows anyway? Or fret about where Michael Jackson's nose is buried?
Great article.
I thought I was watching a Heart reunion at first, with Ann and Nancy sharing a sisterly kiss. I could not understand the big deal, then I realized it was Adam Lambert. Mark my words Lambert is about 5 years away from fuzzy Ann Wilson shots.
I just don't get why he felt he had to do such a thing. It was just creepy. It was not even sexy. It's just a shame when young reasonably attractive people can make sex unsexy and just yucky looking. I mean, who would even want to watch two boys with too much makeup on kiss? Not even the gays want that.
Now, when Trace Atkins plants a big one on Brad Paisley, that's worth watching!
I guess we should be thankful Perez Hilton didn't jump on stage and join in with her thick self.
Ick.
Now that might have actually been entertaining.
Wow! This was very cruel, yet well deserved! Now everybody from Palisades to Downey, from Chatsworth to Seal Beach will start cringing – oh, oh, I live in a homophobic place, this is so unbearable, I'm so ashamed, I'm so devastated, what do people from Puenta Arenas to Tallin, from Osaka to Wellington, from Vladivostok to Liverpool think now about Los Angeles? "Oh, they are so homophobic!" – truly devastating, Gretchen, I simply can't have my waffles, I live in a homophobic place!
No one can impose ideals on you. You're in charge of what you do and do not watch. In my experience, if folks pay to buy crap, someone will keep trying to sell you crap.
I've come up with a radical solution to this problem. It involves changing the channel and not buying entertainment that I don't like. I realize it's easier to jump straight to the "let's get the government involved" solution, but I prefer to make decisions for myself.
True, some of his work was considered obscene for his time, but Michaelangelo was also on the cutting edge of art. Rather that simply draw and/or paint how he thought the human body should be, he spent many years studying the physical body, detailing how it actually looked in motion.
Gruesome as it sounds, he used to purchase dead bodies (illegally) and dissect them to see the muscles under the skin, what they looked like and how they moved.
That's why his work was so realistic, and so influential on society and the art world.
Circular reasoning. If you were smart enough to appreciate art you'd see it in his performance. Since you don't appreciate it, it's proof you are incapable of appreciating art.
It's the same argument global warmongers use. The reason you can't see they're right is because you're too dumb to see how smart they are.
Good point. Although it would be nice if people were allowed to have expectations of those providing entertainment. There's no need for statism, just some personal responsibility and respect for others.
Frankly, talent shouldn't need all those gew gaws to be interesting.
This clown and his ilk are living violations of the laws of nature. Fortunately for them, no one enforces those laws, for now.
Apparently you were not paying attention, no one liked those other crude moments either.
LOL. Yes, an over-the-top, ill advised AMA performance should be seen as the equivalent of Michaelangelo.
By all means, let's not criticize Adam Lambert. He might be the next … *snort* … M – Mi – … *guffaw* … Michaelangelo! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Now who's taking things too seriously. Not me! ROFLMAO
ADAM LAMBERT BASHERS please listen to this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJYyqzUr6jU&fe...
This article is not accurate — teh Associated Press reported that the "face in the crotch" Choreo was in both the partial dress rehearsal and the dress rehearsal. So this 1-1/2 seconds of the performance that were editted by ABC-TV in the rebroadcast wass not a last minute ad lib. The kiss was a last minute addition — although was aired on the West Coast rebroadcast.
I didnt say "impose", I said "trying to impose". Not the same, obviously.
And your radical solution would work, if there was a free market. But when their exists a hegemoneous control of the media because of a non-competitive monopoly, then changing the channel leads you to the product within the paradigms of the people in charge of the monopoly.
The government is already involved in media. It's called the FCC. I'm not asking for more involvement, I'm asking for the recognition that their is no reason to allow media to be controlled by a monopoly. Anti-trust legislation is the opposite of government involvement, and it used to be a mainstay of republican belief.
Miss Prejean's tape was released by people out to damage her reputation, not as entertainment for public consumption. Are you blind to that simply reality?
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My thought exactly. Where is the wisdom that is supposed to come with age?
The AMA "Jumped the Shark" with this.
Shouldn't there be some kind of expectation when a program is turned on? If I turn on CSI I have an expectation of bullet-riddled bodies. If I turn on Family Guy I have an expectation of crude, crass, toilet humor. In both cases, those expectations allow me, as a parent, to decide if I want my children to watch or not. But an entertainment-awards show is something else. My expectation would be entertainment, thus the award. But to show something like this without expectation and then to hold the parents responsible for their children seeing it is not logical.
"Bring back the studio system so these little meat puppets can be reigned in for the good of all"
Almost everything ever attempted "for the good of all" has lad either to failure or tragedy, because basic mathematics dictates that listening to the majority generally means listening to the lowest common denominator.
"If broadcasters won't exercise some discretion we will do it for ourselves."
I like how, in effect, doing what anti-censorship advocates have been ASKING THEIR OPPONENTS TO DO ALL ALONG – i.e. if you don't like it just don't watch it – is here being framed as some kind of righteous rebellious action. "That's it, Mom! If you don't stop putting all this broccoli on my plate, I'm gonna EAT IT ALL! What'll you say to THAT!?"
Lambert? Who?
I liked Adam Lambert on Idol. I thought he was a great showman and usually gave a wonderful performance; his talent was enjoyable. I voted for him without consideration for his sexual lifestyle because I didn't care what his sexual lifestyle was. I wish those who want others to stay out of their bedrooms and let them live their lives the way they want would shut the door of their bedrooms because I don't want to see. That goes for any sexual lifestyle. Please.
Not with what they do with them – even PETA would be up in arms.
If we could all just do as we please then you'd be able to criticize an outrageous performance without being called a homophobe. So I don't think that's quite the goal.
None of it is my cup of tea EdSki. I'm weary of these garish unremarkable non-entities falling over themselves trying so hard to be so different and edgy and of course dangerous. While in reality they're all morphing into the same lump of tawdry ridiculous crap and I'm being kind with that.
There's no actual monopoly, though. That most folks in a given art/entertainment industry share similar worldviews and/or standards is not the same thing as them all getting together and linking-up to force out competition.
There is plenty of airspace, distribution channels and MONEY out there for "social conservatives" to make and produce their own movies and TV shows to compete with Hollywood; and so far almost every time such a thing has been tried it's failed to get a foothold. It may be high time for "social-cons" to realize that they just aren't a functional majority of anything anymore, and adjust their expectations accordingly. Or go found their own country and move there, either one would work for me…
Don't think for a minute that everyone who didn't appreciate Lambert's performance falls in line with your kind of thinking. In fact … you come off like a Moby. Is that a threat at the end of your post?
Have you seen what PETA actually does with animals?
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petaTrial.cfm
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/pressRelease_detai...
What to expect from an awards show is evident from the nominees, the knowledge of which is available to the viewers.
Lame attempt at sarcasm. Perhaps I'm still ODing on turkey.
You know, we got the gist of it Miss Marple. Commenting on these boards is like basic journalism, which is, after all, literature in a hurry. Busting on somebody for spelling or grammar is bad form here – we usually let the smaller things slide. You could have been a little more genteel and mentioned that the person's use of incorrect language reflects on that person's lack of education or intelligence, but to say someone looks like a drooling mouth breather is borderline trollisim.
I can appreciate art. I enjoy Charles Russell and Frederick Remington paintings that celebrate our "Wild West" heritage. I enjoy David Mann's paintings that celebrate the "Rebel Biker" lifestyle. As far as music, I listen to Country Music, '80's and '90's rock, and Contemparary Christian music.
But, I can't appreciate the "art" of shoving guys faces into his groin or putting a lip-lock on one of his band members.
The best part of this nonsense is that all that wannabe-Bowie tomfoolery onstage isn't REALLY Lambert's gimmick – this article is.
Nobody in the business of buzzmaking gives a damn about the just-one-hair-shy-of-vanilla watered-down "kink" act he's working in this bit; but having the usual predictable busybodies bust a vein over it and attack the network for airing it and/or grumble out the old "I sooooo don't HATE them, just keep it in the bedroom, geez!!" crap? That's the goal, that's money in the bank. Thanks to predictably overblown "outrage," he's gone OVERNIGHT from a safe, Idol-ized corporate repackaging of the gay club scene to an "edgy" artist who's "too hot for TV."
Well done, Mrs. Meister et al
Haahahahahahahaaaa……I love it!!!!
If you appreciate western art, and ever find yourself in upstate New York, check out this place.
http://www.rockwellmuseum.org/
I've been there twice, once a dozen years or so ago, and it was fantastic. We went again a couple of years ago and the entire place had been redone. The building looks much better, but they've got less than half the exhibit space than they used to, so they can only show a fraction of the collection.
Today is the first time I listened to Lambert sing -now I understand why he resorted to VISUAL gimmicks.
If visuals are needed to bring out ” a sexy song about seduction and power" then you are not musically talented to "doing the lyrics justice.”
The guy may have a voice to hit notes however, gay or otherwise, he is completely void of passion and must hide this void behind visual gimmicks.
He is another bubble-gum pop-star marketed for the kiddies.
In what basic English dictionary will I find 'crissake'?
LoL. No no I got what you meant. Now Woodchucks would be interesting and frighting all at the same time. I think your right it's the Turkey. Gotta get off the net …Later.
Thanks EdSki! That does look interesting. I live in Oklahoma, and there's several museums here with Western art.
Obviously, you're a Pam-phobe.
This is what is considered entertainment? While I do not watch award shows or reality TV, I find this behavior puzzling. From Jamie Foxx to Kayne West to this guy Lambert to the balloon boy. Andy Warhol once said "In the future everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutes." The part these people seem to miss is that he did not intend for us to think that it was a good thing.
I'll add, because bubble-gum pop-stars have zero of passion they always come out sounding high-pitched 'alvin and the chipmunks'; there is no depth to their voices.
I think that's where Rockwell used to live. He was the son of a family that owned a big department store, but he wanted no part of it, so he moved out west for several years. When his father passed away, there was no one else to take over so he had to move back. And to remind him of his love for the west he built a huge art collection.
When he passed away he created and endowed the museum to maintain the collection.
ALLAMERICAN, "non-entities" is exactly how I have described today's crop of "stars" in conversation. They have no real talent to offer and so they resort to vulgar and clownish behavior to get noticed.
The guy was a cross dressing drag queen singer before American Idol. The legitimate Gay Community recognizes what he is and do disapprove.
But up to this point Adam Lambert had not simulated sex on stage (at least to my knowledge), so that was completely unexpected. If I watched the awards show, I would not have that expectation. Now that I know what to expect from him, I will not be watching nor listening to him at all.
StanH, I agree. We are witnessing the beginning of the end of our society. This vulgar and crass exhibitionism is becoming the norm and I fear the worst is yet to come.
Gerry N,
Learn some basic courtesy… if you don't disagree with the guy's comment and want to correct his spelling, grammar, or writing in general… simply say so without being insulting.
If you have an actual disagreement with his point, state it and be done with it.
Finally, go get your shinebox.
The singer Susan Boyle, now this is a voice with depth which does not visual gimmicks to sustain the talent.
Whether or not the music she sings fits any particular preference it is a voice which is sustain by a depth of passion rather than any ability to hit notes.
Her voice has such depth of passion she has no need to stick someone's face in her crotch in order to be heard.
Another case, Maria Callas; here is a voice whose warble was wide enough to drive a train through yet her depth of passion brought out the most extraordinary music without resorting to visual gimmicks. Likewise; Renata Tabaldi had an extraordinarily beautiful voice yet very few know who she was.
end-of-the-world-God-is-going-to-rain-hellfire-on-us performance a lot of folks are calling it?
Well, YOU are the first person I heard that from.
And you can spot closet nanny-statists by how many times they insert the phrase "young children" into their argument? My, you are a Drama Queen.
Would it be better to give the guy a pass, though?
Now I'm going to have nightmares! But they just kill them, they don't torture them by using them as sex toys.
"Don't take him [Lambert] away from the rest of us…"
How is criticising the man's act taking anything away from you all? What's more, how is Lambert's crotch-thrust into the face of another man on live television critical to your future?
How would a crotch-thrust into anyone's face on television be critical to anyone's future?
Wow. Next you'll be posting your "Leave Adam alone" youtube video.
Phobia denotes fear. I don't fear homosexuals. I dislike the more militant ones, and am disgusted by their overt, in-your-face (or is it "in each others' crotches?) acts. Gay pride is one thing – what some of them do in their parades is repulsive.
Lambert is whining that he didn’t “intend” to create controversy (BS Alert!), and it was somehow discriminatory to edit his performance when the likes of Madonna and other racy performances by women aren’t. I guess he wasn’t paying attention when NBC aired an edited version of Madonna’s concert in 2006. And how about the uproar after Janet Jackson’s so-called “wardrobe malfunction” while performing with Justin Timberlake during the Superbowl in 2004? (Side note: what IS the deal with Justin Timberlake? I can’t understand his appeal. He can’t sing and he reminds me of Screech on “Saved by the Bell.” Could someone please enlighten me?)
What IS the deal with you? I can't understand YOUR APPEAL and I'm not complaining about you! I think you look more like Screech than Justin does. LOL You're one to talk about celebs when you suck as a writer and suck at life, in general! Did Justin reject an interview with you or ignore you in the past? Why the hate? If you don't like him, don't talk about him, don't think about him, and don't listen to him music! JUST STFU!
Isn't that some sort of parasitic worm that lives in lakes and preys on fish?
No, wait, that's a "lamprey".
Then, I'm not sure.
File that in the "I don't know what you're talking about, and I DON'T WANNA know" file. Please. Don't give these guys any ideas.
You and many others.
It was a serious miscalculation on Lambert's part.
I think the dogs-eating-bodily-waste idea might be an improvement on the tone of the AMU. Besides, dogs are much more appealing than these mutts.
Outrageous celebrity behavior such as this is simply a way to hide a lack of talent and artistic merit.
I concur. Ditto. Oui, absolument.
Besides, who watches award shows these days, anyhow?
It's just the same five or six liberals and fudge-packers anyway…
Making things easier for the people in our families who have a "secret"? How does going on national TV and acting like an oversexed stereotype of a gay person help people who have a "secret" for God's sake!?!
Adam is an amazing talent. For Your Entertainment is a great record. The AMA's was one performance. Move on already.
Fang, you miss the subtlety in this performance…it's actually an advertisement for NOW -N- LATER candy.
"Eat some now, save some fellator."
(sardonically humorous)
We stopped watching these award shows many years ago. No way around it: they are offensive to COMMON decency. There is no double standard regarding Janet and Michael crotch grabbing, Britney and Madonna kissing, or this latest debaucle with Adam Lambert. It is all offensive behavior and I don't have to watch it and support it.
Your little tactic ain't gonna work here. We have every right to expect not to be assaulted by crassness and vulgarity, regardless of the orientation of the performer. Whatever talent Lambert may or may not have is diminished by his attention grabbing, narcissistic behavior and no amount of labeling on your part is going to change that. Lambert laughably calls shoving a man's face into his crotch "art" and sheep like you fall for it. But as long as it "edgy", right?
You need to do some actual homework on Renaissance art.
Michelangelo's artistic choices, which seemed shocking to SOME contemporary critics (not to Pope Julius II, who commissioned him), were made in the pursuance of truth. It wasn't the nudity which shocked his critics–that was pretty much the standard in the Renaissance. Michelangelo departed from the conventions in that his nudes were muscular and raw-boned, rather than the smooth classically-inspired works of his contemporaries and predecessors.
PLEASE explain where there is any pursuit of anything other than cheap titillation in Lambert's pathetic exhibitionism.
Yikes! Luckily this one didn't catch me while I was drinking a Pepsi, or I'd be cleaning the keys and screen. Thumbs up for you!
Who is this fruit, and why do I care.
It looks like I'm not missing a thing with these shows.
What part of Lambert's "performance" was the important part? When he groped the female dancer or when he shoved a man's face into his crotch? So much for older folks having wisdom.
While I do sympathize with parents having to explain why two men are kissing, just as I've seen exasperated mothers hauling kids past the giant, all-but-topless Victoria's Secret display windows in malls, were there really that many impressionable youths watching an awards show on a school night? Didn't Lambert go on at nearly 11pm? Shouldn't young kids should've been in bed? And I'm sorry, 1500 complaints vs. the millions who watched the broadcast is…statistically nothing. Lambert may have disgusted some people but he's living the #1 showbiz rule: there's no such thing as bad publicity. He'll take a few lumps like the GMA cancellation, but I doubt it's going to have long term negatives for him.
And Justin Timberlake is actually a very good entertainer. He also has been consistently funny when he hosts Saturday Night Live.
Void of passion? No depth to his voice ? You should listen to this before you make those judgments:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu_dPnRzbRQ
Getting your information about PETA from the CCF is like getting your information about Palin from the DNC. They are a corporation that was founded by money from Phillip Morris for the sole purpose of going after activist groups that threaten corporate profits. They are funded by the alcohol, tobacco, dairy, fast food, and meat industries, so it's no surprise that they go after PETA with a smear campaign. But let's not forget, this is also the same group who went after MADD when they were campaigning to lower the DUI alcohol rates nationally. Try again….
Any parent who lets their 10 year old stay up that late to watch something as dumb as the AMAs, kind of deserves what they get.
Granted I am no Simon Cowell – but the boy absolutely fell flat with the singing – I guess he was too caught up in his rehearsed act to give a crap about what put him on that stage to begin with – "singing.". Guess he needed to do all the idiotic sideshow antics to give him publicity for creep and not vocal talent. Hope it works out for him (chuckle)
Don't care if your heterosexual or homosexual, if I want to see people rubbing heads in their crotch I'll rent a movie.
LoL. OK Brother will do.
Let's put a positive spin on it Phil. Look at all the bucks we're saving.
I used to like award shows – as sort of a guilty pleasure. Then they became forums for the uneducated, overpaid hollywood actors and actresses to dis America and all people and things conservative; they use the shows to promote their causes. While some are great causes, they do not belong on awards shows. Just entertain us, give a nice acceptance speech, and exit stage left! I stopped watching the Oscars when "Saving Private Ryan," the quinessential story about the men who saved the world, was passed over for Best Picture in favor of "Shakespeare in Love" a silly story about what else? actors. Yep they passed over the greatest generation in favor of themselves. There is not a more egomaniacal, slef-righteous group than the 8th grade educated lefties in Hollywood who somehow think they are smarter than flyover country.
Actually I got the information from my local newspaper when the story broke. In order to save space and time typing, I grabbed one of the first links that came up in a google search.
I've seen the story in multiple times in multiple sources, and it's happened more than once.
And I must say, if they're taking on MADD, I'm on their side too. MADD used to be a wonderful organization, performing much needed work. But they've gotten the drinking age raised nation wide. They've gotten the BAC lowered so it safer. They're work is complete, but they won't stop. They're going to keep lobbying till it's against the law to drink anywhere in public and time. They're no longer interested in reasonable, sensible laws and enforcement.
Every time modern liberals worm their way into any organization, they take over it, and they go balls to the walls trying to get legislation that out laws what ever they don't like.
A local teen died of an over dose of prescription medicine. The boy's father set up the same kind of organization to raise awareness, and he called it DAM-MADD (Dad's And Mad Mom's against something, or other. Did MADD help him out? Did they understand and show him how to run that type of organization? No. They dragged him into court for copyright infringement.
That's some real compassion there.
No, no, no–it's more like "if you don't stop putting these prunes on my plate, I'm just going to toss it in the trash!" And who keeps rating this guy's posts up, anyway?
I wonder what Deborah Weiss thinks of all this.
Just kiddin'….I don't care what she thinks.
It's Tebaldi with an 'e' actually, and I know who she was.
Didn't she have a long time feud with Maria Callas? And I have to say…I don't want to ever see Susan Boyle put a face in her crotch either!!
If folks don't think there are going to be racy set-pieces at music awards shows, they obviously haven't been paying attention for the last twenty or so years.
So yeah, you know what? What happened is EXACTLY what I was expecting to happen. Therefore I didn't watch it, and neither did my children. It's just like how I know from past experience that the Oscars are always going to have some sort of left-wing political diatribe that ruins the entire show.
Love your column!!! Very entertaining. I couldn't stand this phony creep when I glimpsed him on American Idol. Watched the season before but he was one of the resons I wouldn't watch this year. He always looked like he was hyperventilating for more attention so he would be "different" and avant guarde. His act and so many like him are sooooo borrring. Really. It's the same old crap. The full make-up, the nail polish, the eye-makeup. He did more to reinvorce the negative stereotypes of the lunatic homosexual than anyone I can currently think of. He is a big yawn. And it is just a terrible disservice to his homosexual brothers many of whom just want to be left alone, unnoticed, to continue with their lives unbothered and in peace. The guy is a desperate jerk.
Really?
Several posters have previously mentioned Sodom and Gemorrah and how this compares to what called down God's wrath. Is that end-of-the-world-God-is-going-to-rain-hellfire-on-us enough for you?
And I'm sorry, but the whole "What about the children?!?" thing is the mark of a statist. It was Hitler himself who said, "The State must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation."
It would seem that you are experiencing homoparanoia so it is understandable that you cannot see why anyone would choose goodness and decency. it happens a lot with that particular form of paranoia.
Loud, self-absorbed, silly fruit.
Objecting to any behavior = hate. Cool. Life is so much fun nowadays.
By the way, the purpose of this website is to talk about subjects such as this, allowing for differing viewpoints. If you don't like her, don't talk about her, don't think about her and don't read her posts. JUST Stop Trying to Force Us to accept, without reservation, any and all behavior that you approve of.
I am gay, and to begin with, whats the point of hooking up with a flaming queen? You might as well be with a woman. Second he is not that good looking, maybe a normal type hairdo would help. Third, if the gay community ever wants to be accepted- act like it 4th I don't want anyone groping and simulating sex acts on each other when kids are watching- str8 or gay, next , what little i have heard, the dog in my pic sings better.
Now I will go back to my weathergirls and Eartha Kitt
Standard reply to any questions regarding behavior for the last two generations; 'Move on already'. Seems kind of cowardly to me. What about somebody who doesn't care for where they're moving on to?
I just wonder how many parents who watch AI with their kids tuned into the award show specifically to see Lambert perform what they would have expected to be something similar to what he had done previously. I know that I have tuned into certain shows (Leno, Letterman, et al) I otherwise would not have watched just to see a particular performer. I've even skipped the rest of the show and tuned in just for that segment. It's a problem when people you expect to be trust-worthy betray that trust for publicity and/or shock value.
Yes- Lambert is an artiste. One that will never get a penny of my money- out of respect for his ART. I'm sure that he wouldn't want a provincial such as myself to endorse his "talent." So I won't.
I don't particularly disagree with what you wrote, but you don't mean to say that it voids the authors criticism, do you?
It would seem a little hubristic to tell parents how to raise their children while at the same time arguing that the author has no right to make a criticism of something that is, at the very least, socially controversial.
In other words, if you get to have an opinion about my child-rearing standards, I certainly get to have an opinion about Gay Pride Parade: The Musical.
Last night when I looked, Susan Boyle's album was beating him handily- uh, let me put that another way- Boyle's album was outselling Lambert's. But Lambert had just edged out "Glee" so, the race is still on.
What? Lambert is half-past "there." He jumped the shark. He rewrote what constitutes "okay for prime time." Worse of all- Lambert has substituted gay activism for entertainment- and that- is unforgivable.
Hollywood elitists are nothing more than worthless, self-important, anti-American egotists. They spew their venom to the world while praising themselves and giving each other endless awards so they won't feel guilty for participating in their deviant lifestyles. They preach "tolerance" but they are not satisfied with tolerance, THEY WANT FULL ACCEPTANCE OF THEIR SICK LIFESTYLES AND MENTAL ILLNESSES. In reality, they act the part of heroes while they surrounding themselves with adoring, WEAK MINDED WORSHIPERS WHO WILL NEVER TELL THEM THE TRUTH.
Why is Obama Surrounding Himself With Gays?
http://usataxpayer.org/view.asp?Get=obamagay
Corruption in Congress…
http://usataxpayer.org/view.asp?Get=corruptcongre...
Hollywood elitists are nothing more than worthless, self-important, anti-American egotists. They spew their venom to the world while praising themselves and giving each other endless awards so they won't feel guilty for participating in their deviant lifestyles. They preach "tolerance" but they are not satisfied with tolerance, THEY WANT FULL ACCEPTANCE OF THEIR SICK LIFESTYLES AND MENTAL ILLNESSES. In reality, they act the part of heroes while they surrounding themselves with adoring, WEAK MINDED WORSHIPERS WHO WILL NEVER TELL THEM THE TRUTH.
Why is Obama Surrounding Himself With Gays?
http://usataxpayer.org/view.asp?Get=obamagay
Corruption in Congress…
http://usataxpayer.org/view.asp?Get=corruptcongre...
You're right. Now we can't trust ABC ever. With Taylor Swift voted favorite or best or whatever entertainer of the year, ABC treats us to vulgar gay activism. Nicely done, ABC. You've outdone yourselves with your idiocy. You really have your finger on the pulse of your audience.
I LIKE the idea of Woodchucks. Now we're talking some action! Adam, try THIS!
They probably had that "rush to cover their butts" choreographed too.
That has to be a joke. I mean- really. Lambert is "important to the future" if by "future," you mean "the further unrelenting corruption of our youth." Granny- you "believe in him"????? My head is going to explode.
He does have talent, it's just too bad he's more interested in simulating gay sex acts instead of picking good songs to sing and perform, we get it your gay, you don't need to throw it our faces
Where is the hate, Luna? You'll need to establish that point first.
And, you might consider not telling someone to "ShutTheF*CkUp" and claiming that your target's writing "sucks" when you are trying to smear her and folks who agree with her as "haters". It suggests you don't have a clear idea when it comes to the subject at hand.
Garbage. Absolute garbage.
And we who object to such a disgustin display are labeled "homophobes
and "bigots".
I swear. I'm gonna lose my godd*** mind…
You have to be kidding? "a change in the world"?? How exactly? By pulling a male dancer into his crotch and kissing an unsuspecting keyboard player? People have no problem with who he is attracted to. It's the part of doing an oversexualized performance that has nothing what so ever to do with music. It's one thing to pull these stunts, and that is exactly what it was, at his own show. He pulled this on national television with people who are not his fans and who do not appreciate seeing a grown man push another man or woman into is crotch. For the record, no one is taking him away from any grandmas. I'm sure he's happy to know that a woman three times his age loves seeing him stick grown men into his crotch.
grandma, do you remember when Ellen Degenerous (sp?) had her own sitcom and shoved her gayness in our faces every show, it got canceled. Thank god she wised up and now shes back with her show and funny as ever, we know she's gay, but don't throw it in our faces at every single opportunity. Win on merit not because your gay
Thank you! I am letting EVERYONE know!!!
Another reason why I'm glad I voted for Kris Allen.
I just downloaded Susan Boyle's album last night. While I would have preferred more variety of style overall, her voice is absolutely stunning. I particularly liked the song "Proud". And, of course, she owns "I Dreamed a Dream".
Song choice is an interesting business. Not everyone is good at it. Adam Lambert's adviser(s) are NOT good, I think. They chose songs for dance clubs and they flatten out his vocal strengths, making him sound screechy and range-less. Susan Boyle's adviser(s) are better, but could still improve, I think. I remember seeing a special about Tim McGraw and how he didn't break through in music until, on his last chance album, he got to choose his own songs. He obviously has a gift for it that not everyone has.
Still looking forward to more from Boyle. As for Lambert … I'll take his youth and the overwhelming nature of sudden fame into account and hope he shows better judgment in the future.
I agree! I do not care what anyone does behind closed doors as long as their not hurting children! I have no problem with someone being gay…I just hate all the 'in your face' antics some of them feel they have the right to do!
Elton John had been gay along time, He is the ultimate in class, I am not gay and I don't see Elton as gay, I see him as a brilliant songwriting artist, I did like Adam's singing, but now I see him only as a gay activist that want's to shove his gayness down our throats.
Elton John= Class
Adam Lambert= trash
You said exactly what I wanted to say with the addition of:
Elton John has been gay along time, He is the ultimate in class, I am not gay and I don't see Elton as gay, I see him as a brilliant songwriting artist, I did like Adam's singing, but now I see him only as a gay activist that want's to shove his gayness down our throats.
Elton John= Class
Adam Lambert= in your face gutter trash
right-freakin'-on! MADD, unions, environmentalists, you name it- they never know when or where to quit and call it a day. at some point, they all turn into good vs evil, us vs. them, all-or-nothing quasi-religious crusades.
"rushed to cover their butts"? "more receptive"? a rather unfortunate choice of words, if you ask me…
or even homo-aversion?
"I'm a 62 yr old grandmother…" did you mean to type "I'm HIS 62 yr old grandmother…"?
"…shove his gayness down our throats. " and we have another unfortunate choice of words…
"I can't understand YOUR APPEAL and I'm not complaining about you!"
and yet here you are doing exactly that very thing. ironic, huh?
and the more reasonable gay community's "We're just like everybody else!" campaign takes another hit from a selfish, ill-considered public display of affectation…
Aberration exist in our universe, and to a great extent, is tolerated due to the fact that most is benign and therefore of little concern. Our ability to accept change is a human trait but one that has limits, but do not make the mistake of confusing talent with artistic license lest you lose moral perspective. As to the threat you speak of; nature deals with all aberrations and we should not be surprised when it does for it does so for a reason which, much to our dismay, does not always do so according to our wishes. And what is a Moby?
You posted a consumer freedom link. That's why I commented the way I did. There is nothing objective, peer-reviewed, or honest in the way they do business. And their business is to pull hatchet jobs, pure and simple. If you actually did a little research into the PETA claims, you would understand that, unlike a shelter or humane society, their community animal project (aside from providing traveling low-no cost spaying/neutering, delivering free dog houses to needy families, etc.) takes in sick, injured and unadoptable animals, 24/7/365. Shelters don't do that. In these sorts of cases, quick, painless, professional euthanasia is the most compassionate choice for these animals. It's an unfortunate situation, but when you have a country that abandons 8 million companion animals a year, what other solution is there? Anyway, before you take newspaper columns as gospel and trash talk the one organization that has done more for animal welfare worldwide than all other organizations combined, at least do a little research and get your facts straight. Thanks.
Anyone who watches this crap deserves, at the very least, to have the inside of their skulls melted out by this Garbage.
Before you go spilling what edski has taken as gospel, do a little research on the organization that was paid by the meat and dairy industry to to a hatchet job on PETA.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center...
Ok, but the issue here is clearly centered around him being gay and doing gay sexual things on tv. For a lot of narrow-minded Americans, this is worse than straight people doing straight sexual things on tv. My point is that, if you are any kind of decent parent, you don't let you kid see EITHER kind when they are 10 years old. The prefix is unimportant…. that's something that our society is gradually starting to understand, with the evangelicals being the major holdouts…. which is fine. Any society where the fundamentalists are marginalized is a civilized, educated society. If there is a criticism to be lobbied here, it is that this sort of "cultural event" attracts as many viewers as it does. Imagine if the same number of people attended their city council meetings or voted in local elections!!
It's a car – a Lambert-gini
Thank you for a respectful reply. I have researched PETA, I've been watching them for a couple of decades. I pay attention to charities because I want to make sure the small donations I can make go to worthy charities.
I can't say I'm familiar with their early organization, but I have watched it change over time from an organization who's primary concern was animal welfare, and into an organization that's primary concern is feeding the egos of liberal elites. Have you seen the kind of people running this organization these days?
Here's a link to what is supposed to be the will of Ingrid Newkirk. I believe she was recently deceased head honcho running the place. This is not a sane person. This is a person who was totally disgusted with animal Homo Sapien.
http://www.tribemagazine.com/board/tribe-main-for...
Surprise surprise surprise. Peeple mispel tings ahwn da intenet? Wo tought?
The single error there was hardly worthy of comment, and the rest of his sentence is perfectly fine. If you insist on going through every post catching even the most minor English errors, you are going to die at your computer chair, because there is literally no end to them.
Now grow up.
FOR HIS DAY.
And the bottom line is that even his critics recognized that his art had merit, obscenity and all.
And what merit does Mr. Lambert's actions have?
Please don't insult Judy Garland.
Ah, the tried and old-fashioned attempt at the double standard.
Have you EVER seen some of our old comments from the Jackson Superbowl fiasco, which WAS "hetero?"
No?
Didn't think so.
Your apology is accepted.
So, is it homophobic to disdain overt displays of sexuality such as this- from ANY sexual bent- on TV marketed to young children and teens?
In that case, I am sure a few of my friends (some of whom are actually Gay and Lesbian) would like to tell you how homophobic they are.
Too many children are taught that special abilities = special morality. "Artists" may have talent, but they are no different in terms of what is expected of them in a civilised society. Let's raise the bar.
Oh Ingrid is most certainly still alive and kicking. And I realize that her will is certainly unusual, but is in line with her lifelong commitment to animals. Here's a disclosure. I worked for PETA for 2 years, so I pretty much know the organization inside and out, along with the people too. They are, despite what's written about them, pretty down to earth, hard-working, intelligent folks. And they work for a pittance too… Ingrid has never made more than about 35k a year. While you might find their tactics and public statements outlandish and insane, they are very calculated. Let's remember that their yearly budget equals about what Mcdonald's spends per week on advertising. It's an uphill battle, and in this media-saturated world, the only way you can get any sort of press coverage is through theatrics. Case and point…. if you are a paper editor and you hear that there is going to be some animal activists holding signs protesting restaurant X…. versus hearing there are going to be naked girls protesting restaurant X, which one are you going to send your photographers to? Not saying that I agree with the paradigm that we've allowed ourselves to create in this mediacentric culture, but since things are the way they are, you have to make these choices in order to be effective. People may be shocked or offended, but they walk away with the issue in their head. Simple activism 101. What is worth noting is that PETA has one of the highest program dollar ratios of any non-profits (percentage of donation money that goes directly into programs). Considering how often they get audited by the gov't who has been trying to pull their 501c3 status for 20 years, if they were doing anything illegal or unethical, it would have been clear by this point. You may disagree with them across the board, but their integrity as a non-profit is pretty much beyond compare. Would that they had the kind of corporate funding that their enemies have.
"Adam is just starting out on his career and, unfortunately, will be making a few mistakes."
If so, he had better shape up VERY quickly, or else he won't have much of a career save a tabloid bait. A mistake like THIS back in the day would have sunk his career, PARTICULARLY given the fact that he doesn't see anything wrong with it the morning after.
And even the enlightened modern music business has its breaking point.
My advice: grovel on screen and apologize to everyone for the crass and vulgar display, and state that he didn't know jack about what he was doing. It will be a long road to get back what he lost because of that asnine display, but it will be worth it.
"However, I believe in him."
And…. HOW old are you again?
" He's had to endure people with narrow minds and so much self -righteousness that they feel they can put him down and call him names when they don't even know him."
True. But this justifies simulating sex on TV for children/teens HOW?
"Open your hearts to someone who is making the path easier and the world more tolerant for one of your relatives when they have a "secret"."
I'm sorry, but do you even KNOW anybody who is a homosexual?
No?
In that case, get off the podium and let me on. Because, believe it or not, guv'ner, I DO.
And I can safely say that his asnine display is not helping them ONE BIT. Indeed, if anything, it is probably HURTING them.
I live in California, ground zero of the Homosexual issue after Prop 8, and I am happy to admit that I have plenty of friends, some of them who are homosexuals. I know these people quite well, and I have many times had to come in as a character witness to defend them. They acted as they did the day before this abomination aired as they did after it. It didn't help them one whit. IF anything changed, I would have to say it was the fact that the poisonous and rather difficult atmosphere they live and work in got just a little more toxic from this abortion of a program being aired, adding just a little bit more to the traditional stereotypes of Homosexuals.
They have to confront that stereotype pretty much EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THEIR LIVES TO BE TREATED AS NORMAL. So pray tell me how does THIS "help" them?
" Where they too can hold their heads up with pride and know they will be accepted."
You have no idea about what acceptance is to them, do you?
If you did, pray tell me WHY you would think that would in any way help them?
" Let AdaM have his first mistake and move on."
We would, if he would admit his mistake. For that is a necessary step to moving on.
" He is already being written in the history books and will be remembered for a very long time."
I am sorry, but have you EVER read a history book?
Unless Mr. Lambert becomes either:
A. Some radical militarized Gay who begins a terror campaign against straights until he is hunted down and killed while escaping his compound,
B. A President of the US
C. A General of renown
D. A scientist that either worked on or made a groundbreaking discovery,
or
E. A three-time winner of the Medal of Honor,
he isn't going to be in the history books save as a footnote. A very FAINT footnote.
" I'm a 62 yr old grandmother who thinks this is a man who is making a change in the world for the better."
In that case, please talk to your children and ask them about potential treatment options for yourself. But HURRY, lest you run out of time before the medical industry completely folds in on itself.
" How many people can say that?"
You mean the "I am a 62 yr. old grandmother who thinks….?"
About 13,000. At least.
Sorry, but you are not so special.
Or about the "making change in the world?"
About Six billion. Thank you very much.
"If you don't like him, turn him off in your world but don't take him away from the rest of us who can see how very important he is to the future."
We can no more take him away than we can get you off the internet, old lady. But his sponsors CAN, and when they listen to complaints about his antics, they may start weighting the issue. Particularly considering how damn questionable it is that he will be "very important" to the future.
Hate?
What makes you think these people are worth any more than mild disdain?
America needs an enema. These people aren't going to go away and leave us alone until we make them.
Ken
http://www.LaserGuidedLoogie.com
Listen, all of this comes to an end if the majority of people–who are by far heterosexual–would change their vernacular. "Gay" and "straight" and the other sexual "orientation" (another) labels are monikers used specificially for the purpose of making LEWDNESS acceptable. These people are not gay–they're vulgar. They're not "homo"sexual–they're PERVERSE. Stop referring to them as "the gay community". They are the PERVERSE community. The freaks. The SCUM of society. They are the lowest of the low and deserve to be treated as such. Stop dignifying them with these references as though they're behavior is something normal. PUSH BACK and tell THEM how it's supposed to be.
Thank you again for the polite and respectful reply and debate. I so missed that when it fell out of fashion on the left. If I didn't agree with my fellow lefties, they'd simply insult me and move on.
While you might find their tactics and public statements outlandish and insane, they are very calculated. Let's remember that their yearly budget equals about what Mcdonald's spends per week on advertising. It's an uphill battle, and in this media-saturated world, the only way you can get any sort of press coverage is through theatrics.
You've pretty much summed it up for me. When I'm looking for a charity, I don't want to see my donation spent on publicity, I want to see my money put to work. I want to make a difference, not a statement. And in my opinion, PETA is more interested in making a statement. I'm not suggesting every one connected to them are, but it surely seems like those are the ones in charge.
And I mean this in the spirit of open debate and the free exchange of ideas, here's a couple of charities that I do support, that I think compare pretty well.
http://www.stlabre.org/
http://www.foodforthepoor.org/
Who watches award shows?
Six Companies own 90% of the media holding in the United States.
Pam, thanks for the article. It seemed to have a nice balance between fact and opinion, leaving out the vitriol I've read elsewhere. As a fan of Adam Lambert during AI (I was moved to tears during his Mad World and Tracks of My Tears performances), I was sad and offended during the AMAs. It seems Lambert is hellbent on "proving" something – I just wish it were on proving how great of a singer he is. With the lines so blurred these days between "singer" and "performer," it's difficult to survive in the industry, sell records, or win awards just by "singing." (Have you ever listened to Miley or Taylor Swift? Live? Ech.)
Elvis, U2, The Beatles…all great, for all time, and none had to do this kind of "shock" stuff. They had the goods. Who has them these days? It seems that with the lack of pure talent, all that's left is shock value. It's a true mark of a washed-up has-been (or a never-was wannabe) when they have to resort to these tactics. "Shocking" the audience is NOT the same as enterntaining them. It might be good fodder for the water cooler, but if you're trying to be an artist (and one for the ages), try again.
People bring up Madonna and Britney and Christina – for the record, I think their routine was just as anti-artistic as Adam's. And are these three really known for their ubertalented vocals? Anyway, it's worth noting that they were straight performers, which is why a lesbian kissed was deemed "shocking." It would have made more sense then for Lambert to have stuck his tongue down a female band member's throat. The dude's gay! What's shocking about him kissing a man?
Another difference: the former act was just that – and "act" – and it was scripted. The networks knew about it in advance. Lambert admitted his was "in the moment" which is not only an insult to the AMA's who invited him and graciously allowed the newbie to close out the show, but it makes me feel for the band member and dancer he "used" in living out his own nacisstic gratuitous fantasies. Without their permission, where's the talk of manipulation, harassment, and exploitation? Seriously, if a female were working hard to make it in the entertainment industry as a member of a band, and the lead singer forced her head to his crotch or forcibly kissed her on national television, that would be tantamount to harassment. Nevermind the lack of artistry.
Lastly, I don't care that Lambert's gay. Think about Elton John. He's gay. He's even flamboyant. He's also a legend. A worldwide bonafide star…without any of Adam's antics. Why is he a star? Oh yah, he sings his face off. Adam might take a page out of Sir Elton's book. He'd certainly be around longer – and known for his singing rather than his Rocky Horror Picture Show impersonations – if he did.
Not that I have any use for this publicity hog Lambert, but Piss Brown is by far a bigger scumbag, and Good Morning America should be SHELLED by women's groups everywhere for their hypocricy and overall douchebaggery…
Is she the one who writes all the BH articles about how amazing and wonderful Adam Lambert is?
Lambert DID have prior permission from the keyboardist to do whatever he wanted. He was fine with it, as was the dancer. You are just making things up because you don't know the facts.
Seems like two good ones, although I'm always a bit leery of faith-based charities. They do good work, to for sure, but there's usually the "big sell" that comes along with it. As an atheist, I find it kind of disingenuous, although not to the point that the positives outweigh the "indoctrination." Hungry bellies are hungry bellies. In terms of world hunger, that's a major reason why I push the vegan thing, as the meat-centered diet is either directly or indirectly responsible for most of it. Case and point… many Western African nations that experience widespread hunger actually grow enough food to feed their populations, but their non-Democratic governments sell off their grains to European nations for cattle feed. Why doesn't the U.S. start supporting Democratic reform movements THERE, instead of the middle east? Sorry… oil-baiting discussion for another thread.
Now, back to PETA…. Unfortunately, most of the what the public sees is the over-the-top protests and crazy stunts, which quite reasonably makes people conclude that that's what PETA does. In fact, it's only a very small proportion of what they do. When you see such a protest, it is the end result of months (sometimes years) of negotiations that failed to produce results. In many cases, like with J. Crew and Abercrombie & Fitch, it never got that far. I worked on the the public awareness campaigns that convinced them to permanently stop selling fur, and they very quickly agreed to change their policies when the facts were laid out on the table, and they saw through petitioning that their customer base was demonstrably against fur. Probably 90 percent of what PETA does happens behind negotiation room walls, or in public education or outreach. Couple that with community outreach as I described above, and that's the "real" PETA. The protests, the stunts…. that's all to bring public awareness to certain issues or companies for whom previous negotiations yielded unsuccessful results. I realize that you have every right to not believe me on this… after all, I was on the inside there, so naturally I would advocate on their behalf, but I can only offer my assurances that this is the way it works there.
And, for the record…. agreed. Nice to have civil discourse between people with differing viewpoints. It's an increasing rarity in this world, sadly.
Yes'm.
Adam has enormous vocal talent, probably the best male vocalist to come along in decades. There is ample proof of this statement to be found on YouTube. I agree that he did not sing well that night – and he agrees too. He has said in several interviews that he wishes he had sung the song better. He was quite shaken by the unexpected fall he took – his thought mid-fall was that he might even fall off the platform he was so disoriented – and he had a strong rush of adrenaline after that which probably affected his singing. In addition, the sound mix was distorted that night so that the background sound from his band was off-key and that led him off-key. I have never, ever heard him sing off-key before. He is an absolutely remarkable singer. It was just a very bad night for him.
Uh, Shakespeare was a writer, not an actor, dude.
No, he is not a desperate jerk. Actually he is a remarkably beautiful person, both inside and out. He is courteous, kind, generous, honest, thoughtful, intelligent, articulate, personable, brave, gentle, and humble. He has a charismatic personality and an electrifying stage presence. He is an amazingly talented vocalist, with incredible range and breathe control. Just give a listen to his live performance of "Come to Me, Bend to Me" from Brigadoon at the age of 22 on YouTube. You might also want to listen to him sing "The Prayer" with Noa Dori, and "Heaven on Their Minds" from Jesus Christ Superstar. These are easily found on YouTube, along with many other examples of his incredible singing. He is quite a fascinating person and shouldn't be judged on the basis of his sub-par performance on the AMAs.
I fear for Boyle getting shredded by the showbiz machine. She seems a nice lady, but not mentally ready for the reality of how harsh the business can be, even when you're a success. And I confess–I stopped watching the VMA's at least a dozen years ago, and am proudly at _least_ 18 months behind any current music trends.
Not a moral issue–I just fell out of synch with top 40. (Have you heard this Beyonce single, "All the SIngle Ladies?" I hear it's a pip!)
Yeah, 'Art' with a capital 'F'
His voice is like an angel. He has the opportunity to reshape the music world if he would realize that he doesn't need to shock…just be who he is. A gifted artist.
Adam Lambert does have tremendous vocal talent, even if it was not in evidence Sunday night. Please give him another chance to prove it to you, as he already has to so many of us. Don't write him off solely on the basis of one unfortunate performance. He's actually quite terrific and I think he's learned from this experience.
Well, maybe that tells you he wasn't doing it for shock value. His performance was an interpretation of the lyrics of the song, which he didn't write.
Lambert's album is actually pretty terrific. People are buying it because it is GOOD.
He's a Pufferachi
"Required to watch it"? What gave you that idea? Just turn the TV off if you don't want to watch it. You do know how to do that, don't you?
Sorry, tempus, but the "gay community" has more than one mind. It is made up of individual human beings each with his or her own mind. Isn't that amazing?
Yeah- that's not what I've heard. I've heard it's raunchy and, most unforgivable, boring and repetitive. Really- the lowest common denominator to what music can be. You can go ahead and buy it- I'm not going to. And-the fact remains- more people like Susan Boyle.
Well, isn't it amazing, then, that homosexuality has been around for thousands of years. Just because it is different from heterosexuality does not mean it is an "aberration". All people should be treated equally and have equal rights regardless of their sexual orientation. They are ALL children of God.
" I don't know why Lambert and others like him want to reinforce all the worst stereotypes we have of the gay lifestyle"
Hear, hear.
pam dear we get it we just dont want it! if he wants to be a a^& wiper do it behind closed doors. otherwise keep it off the air waves.
You made some good points, but saying Timberlake can't sing kind of makes me second-guess everything else you write
Lets see now… Feeling revulsion at the Lambert display is tantamount to "homophobia". Feeling revulsion at the dismantling of the American economic system by the Obama-crats is "racism". Numerous high officials in DC have been exposed committing large scale tax evasion, yet they are still serving as high officials in the Obama regime. Major news media pundits are wantonly compliant in propagandizing for leftist causes much as they did during Stalin's "genocide by famine" campaign that resulted in 9 to 10 million deaths in the Ukraine. We are indeed living in a vacuum of common decency and moral courage.
Yeah. Ever wonder if the poor dears are deluding themselves? Maybe this is the reality.
Yes, not for shock value at all! He was artistically motivated to accurately interpret the song. It's that important!
Don't you remember back in '71 when Black Sabbath performed War Pigs on Top of the Pops and they were morally obligated to accurately interpret the song? Remember Ozzie pulling out that grenade and tossing it into the audience and then using that Glock to shoot the host?
What's the point of singing a song if you don't accurately interpret it for those listening?
Lambert took no joy in those lewd actions, but the inner life of the artist required it. He should be lauded for integrity!
as you can see from these replies, get a grip, nobody even noticed janet grabbing a male dancer's crotch during her opening number, which was broadcast in the so-called family hour whereas lambert's 80's-madonna-redux act wasn't until the end of the show in what the FCC calls safe harbor. double standard? no doubt.
ABC hyped lambert's "outrageous performance".. stay tuned !!… all evening. for them to claim ignorance now is ridiculous. the sad part of all this is that all they did was to trigger the outrage-du-jour community … although 1500 complaints out of millions of viewers ain't much outrage.
30s, 40s, 50s – gay guys, all in in the closet, all over Hollywood and Broadway doing incontestably great dancing, singing, composing of some of our great popular songs that have lasted and cheered people of all kinds for close to a century.
Now – outlandish people like Lambert and assorted fruits, ply their homosexuality and 'contribute' low level 'art' fated to vanish before they even die.
What went wrong?
And you are defending putrescence because you have no decency. Where did you get your facts? You know for a fact that the keyboardist was 'fine with it' and had no concerns about keeping his job if he declined to let Lambert 'do whatever he wanted'? Did he have the same permission from the network? What are the facts on that?
What he did was inappropriate to most reasonable adults. There's a fact for you.
I know! Think about that amazing melody line he sang in that song…. uhhh. Wait, remember that G right below high C he held for four measures in….. nevermind. He really left an indelible mark with that soulful passion on….. sorry.
Is Justin Timberlake actually a singer? He was pretty good in Shrek 3 though.
He did set his career back, but to really reach that pathetic, media whore level of a Lindsey Lohan, post-menopausal Madonna or your average MTV reality show participant, Lambert has to keep the crap he did on the AMA's going, to the point that the whole idea of seeing Adam Lambert isn't to hear him sing anything, it's to see what "shocking" thing he'll do next to outrage Middle America and make his supporters feel hip and morally superior.
If he wants to do that, there's a core group of liberals in general and gay-rights activists in particular who'll keep his career going for a while, just for the shock value. But his music will be like one of those books that somehow gets overly-hyped by the cultural elites and which people then buy to show they're 'sophisticated', but never read.
Slavery, theft, adultery, rape, and genocide have also been around for milennia. Yet, I don't see rational , ethical people supporting such behavior. Homosexuality is the same way.
Gosh, from the attitude expressed in the article, you would think being dysfunctional, suffering an impairment that results in attraction not consistent with your physiological structure and acting out consistently with that impairment, somehow constituted a virtue. What is it that being "hip" is, a celebration of malfunction?
You need to wonder concerning the emotions that not only redirect libidinal urges from normal objects of affection where a biological union could be consummated, but also compel the afflicted person to exhibitionism as he displays his problematic drives and misfortune in a venue in which probably the majority of people are disintersted in that aspect of his personal. Why the compulsiveness? And why is the writer of the article unaware that illness drives this poor creature, who needs to pretend that he delights in his perversion, since that is a limitation from which he suffers.
They (the gay community) don't get it. Most of us that are complaining don't want to see this crap from anyone, including Madonna/Brittney or any heterosexual couple that chooses to simulate sex in the same setting. They will take this opportunity to once again be the victim group in order to advance their agenda.
"Aberration" – Departure from what is normal.
"Different" – Distinct, separate, unusual.
Yeah, I think because it is different it is an aberration.
Maybe you would make more sense if you owned a dictionary? Just a suggestion.
"Where did you get your facts?"
Listen to any of the numerous interviews with Lambert following the show.
Tweet from Tommy Joe Ratliff (the keyboardist) immediately following the show:
9:09 PM Nov 22nd from UberTwitter
Thanks SOO much to everyone that watched!!!! "Rock n Roll is a prostitute…it should be tartted up"
Does he sound unhappy to you?
"inappropriate to most reasonable adults"? – not a fact.
Poll on http://www.kiss108.com/main.html (website for Boston radio station 108fm asks: Did you find Adam Lambert's performance offensive? Results: yes 31.4%, no 68.6%.
"he displays his problematic drives and misfortune "
You're kidding, right? There is nothing "problematic" about his drives and he certainly is claiming no "misfortune".
"illness drives this poor creature"
I am a straight woman and I find your homophobia to be SICK. Such bigotry is a mental illness in and of itself. Adam Lambert is an out and proud gay man who looks for the good in everyone. He has been an inspiration for many, many people. Try to open your very closed mind, get over your false sense of superiority, and perhaps you will learn something from Adam about what true character is. There is so much more to Adam than you know.
I did not watch American Idol last season, so the big shock for me was that he really wasn't that great a singer.
The rest was so shocking….in 1989!
Ho Hum.
Why don't people like Lambert, Britney, Madonna, et ilk, just realize that nobody really wants to see them make out.
I have to wonder why the sexual exhibitionism of the heterosexual performers on the show does not bother you. Like Janet Jackson grabbing the crotch of her male dancer and bending him over ? Or Shakira with her retinue of dancers an skimpy bodysuits giving repeated pelvic thrusts toward the audience ? Or Carrie Underwood in her skimpy little shorts strutting suggestively in high heels while surrounded by panting male dancers ? Or Eminem boasting how his alter ego Slim Shady has 17 rapes under his belt ? Or I could cite other examples from the show. Why do these exhibitionist performances receive no mention from you ? Why is it only Lambert's that bothers you ?
Well, I must tell you that he really IS that great a singer. I admit it was a bit hard to discern from his performance Sunday night. There are many videos on YouTube that will give you a much better idea of his vocal talent, which is truly extraordinary. Here are two examples for you to listen to – I PROMISE you will be impressed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJYyqzUr6jU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu_dPnRzbRQ
I am not going to answer for the former poster. But I was APPALLED by the display made at the AMA by Adam Lambert. My ten year old son who had watched Adam Lambert on idol wanted to see him perform on the AMA's. It was completely inappropriate and for shock value. Being an openly gay male does not mean that you have to be overly sexualized and publically licentious. I respected him when he said that this is who I am. I have never tried to be anything else. That dance seemed to me that he WAS trying to prove just how homosexual he was. That whole perfomance was a parady of promicuious lifestyles that males homosexuals are sometimes know for. There was no dignity in that performance. I am not homophobic. I had an open mind, so open that I allowed my 10 year old to watch his performance. Adam LAmbert is the one who closed it for me, and he has be banned from my son's music list.
BTW, since the word homophobia gets thrown around alot- there are a lot of heterosexual acts who my child would not be allowed to watch due to the sexualization of their shows and music. I am not scared of "lambert", I just have a responsibility as a parent to moderate what my children see. Lambert has said he does not want to be a role model and I trust him. Word of advice… Please use the word homophobia sparingly. Homophobia is a very rare case that has been hijacked for every slight or disagreement to turn the opposition into a "mental condition." You can only marginalized people like that some far, and then it becomes overplayed and no longer works.
I just wish people would respect the fact that the natural reaction to homosexuality is disgust, it can't be help, one has to overcome that and show respect for people and treat them fairly, but there is a difference between being tolerant and respectful, and having to watch two men give each other a tongue bath. As for the double standard, Men are more perverted than women, period… men will tune in for a lesbian kiss (though I'll never understand why they did to see Ellen do one), Women are not going to be turned on by two men kissing.. it's no double standard, just a difference in the sexes and what they enjoy.
"mutual admiration society gatherings" I love that. How inconsequential your life must be to sit down and watch an award show.
I was getting my facts from Adam Lambert, who said that he did everything "in the moment" and because he "got carried away." Has he now changed his story to say that he got prior permission? If so, that cancels out all his previous justifications. Both stories can't be true; which means Lambert is lying to someone, somewhere. Oy. But, maybe his publicist wised up and fed him the "permission" line – would make more sense, and protect him from harassment suits. Still not art, though.
adam adam adam as much as you try to shack it, you are still that cute overweight little boy from escondid
You misinterpreted what I said. I was responding to your accusation that Lambert's kiss constituted sexual harassment because it was unplanned. Tommy Joe Ratliff had volunteered to Lambert prior to the show that he could "grab him and do whatever he wanted". Adam replied "really?" What he chose to do (the kiss) was "in the moment" like he said. I never said he had gotten permission from ABC or his publicist. He doesn't need their permission for his every move. He had permission, complicity even, from Tommy (the keyboardist) and that is what counts.
It is not raunchy and it is not "boring and repetitive". It contains songs from a wide range of genres, from pop/rock to classic rock to electro-pop dance to soft, beautiful ballads. There is not a bad track on it and it is receiving very good reviews. I have listened to it, you have not. Actually listening to an album is the only way to have a respectable opinion about it. It is currently outselling every album out there except Susan Boyle. It remains to be seen who will have a longer career in music. I'd put my money on Lambert.
This freak's 15 minutes will be up the minute someone notices that someone forgot to flush.
Interesting wordplay, but sounds like justification to me. Sure, all people are worthy of love and respect but it's not who we are, it's what we do that society will measure us by. Try hanging your schlong out in a court room or pissing on a lamp post on a busy downtown street some day and you'll find out what pressure society will bring to bear against you.
I'm not talking about government intervention. I'm talking about studios structuring their businesses more intelligently.
Today's entertainment is yesterday's perversion. What will tomorrow bring?
Gay people are their own worst enemy. I am neutral when it comes to gay marriage, but stunts like this push me toward just saying or voting NO.
Idiots like this clown Adam does more harm to his cause.
Award shows, who watches awards shows??????
Your opinion- which you are welcome to. I've read the reviews, and after his "performance" the other night, would never give him a single penny. It remains to be seen whether Lambert will have a career of any duration. Hope all those gay activists are willing to support him. He has disgusted me- and I'm not alone. There is a huge difference between "edgy" and "in-your-face vulgar." He crossed the line- and is unapologetic- so- Hey, Adam! Buh-bye!
Oh, and fyi- Lambert's album is now #10 on the charts. Boyle-#2. Even Glee is beating Lambert.
Well Celia, I suppose that I differentiate between heterosexual and homosexual behavior because I am able to differentiate between normal representations designed to elicit libidinous arousal and the efforts to present perverse behavior as normal. I am not aware of Eminem's declaration, but I find that in poor taste. Mr. Lambert's performance doesn't "bother me" any more than presentation of any other perversion in a public venue is concerned.
I don't want to limit anyone's maximization of his sexual urges. But I am not interested in viewing perverse performances. If I were in a club and reasonably anticipated viewing homosexual behavior, be it a kiss or something more outre, or bestiality, or any other activity, I would have no complaint. But given the complementary physiology of men and women, and that among creatures that reproduce sexually, behavior that is "normal" is related to the end of coition, I am not interested in the compulsion of this individual to present his acting out of his malady in a venue in which it is not welcomed by many viewers. He certainly is inconsiderate at best.
All that said, I do recognize that he is an impaired individual seeking to overcome a basic maladjustment, and I pity rather than scorn him. I certainly hope that to the extent possible for him he maximizes his enjoyment of his life despite being subject to misdirected libidinous urges.
A Moby is someone who posts nasty, intolerant things on conservative websites just to make conservatives look bad. You come off that way.
You're right. And human kindness has been around that long too. Sadly, it could also be called an aberration at times.
Not defending Lambert's actions, but definitely not climbing on board the gay-bashing train.
What a closed-minded person you are. Homosexuality does not equate to perversion. You have presented no argument whatsoever to justify your bigoted belief that it does. You seem to be saying that if sexual behavior cannot result in reproduction, then it is perverse. Do you apply this shallow thinking to infertile heterosexual couples ? Are they "perverse" if they engage in sex which cannot lead to reproduction ? What about couples beyond their childbearing years,or those who choose not to have children ? Do you declare their sexual behavior to be perverse too ?
You clearly have serious gaps in your knowledge of "representations designed to elicit libidinous arousal". There are thousands upon thousands of women – of ALL ages – that find Adam Lambert to be the sexiest man on the planet. In fact, many of them feel that other men are now pretty much irrelevant, as they pale in comparison to this gorgeous man. Adam is perhaps the most joyful, fascinating, intelligent, and sexual human being I've ever had the pleasure to see. Unlike you, he looks for the good in everyone and never puts anyone else down. He has created a happy and productive life for himself and is making huge contributions to the happiness of others. He is a beautifully self-actualized person. There's no need for you to pity him.
Let us hope that it will bring greater understanding and acceptance of the diversity of human beings, and a true realization that differences in inborn attributes such as skin color, gender, and sexual orientation are not important in the grand scheme of things. I hope that tomorrow will bring freedom and equal rights for all people.
You're one of the nasty ones, aren't you.
Well, then, your life must be even more empty to actually come here and comment on one.
And many who are gay are not part of "thuh gay komyoonuhtee". I, for one, despise things like Gay Pride parades. The press covers the freaks and the whole shebang sets us back another 20 years.
Nahhh. It's easier to complain.
230,000,000 people have 230,000,000 hands to turn 230,000,000 on/off switches into the off position. They also have channel selectors. They have access to Netflix to order the sorts of movies and TV shows they wish to see.
In short, I do not give two hoots in hell who owns what.
I am pretty darn broadminded. I also have not watched this sort of program in, oh, about 35 years. I also seldom even turn my set on except to watch rented films or films I have harvested with the DVR that comes with my cable service.
The same thing that happened with straight guys, all over Hollywood and Broadway doing incontestably great dancing, singing, composing of some of our great popular songs that have lasted and cheered people of all kinds for close to a century.
The world of entertainment, like most everything else in American society, has become coarse, vulgar, rude, and ill-mannered. You can't tie all that around the necks of the homosexuals. It is universal. And more's the pity.
Whoa…this talentless gimick based guy gropes a woman, kisses a dude, and pretends to put his c*ck in another guy's mouth while displaying pitchless but loud singing…and you think I am one of the nasty ones. Come on, you can do much better than settle for this Lambert's scam. Grow up.
Whoa…this talentless gimick based guy gropes a woman, kisses a dude, and pretends to put his part in another guy's mouth while displaying pitchless but loud singing…and you think I am one of the nasty ones. Come on, you can do much better than settle for this Lambert's scam. Grow up.
In short, I do not give two hoots in hell who owns what.
I don't have the space to explain to you what an oligopoly is, and why a Free Market is preferable to the concentrated controlled product that you receive from the six companies that control the TV shows, music, movies that you consume.
But, attidtudes like yours play well into the hands of the Mussolini-like Corporatist who is now the President of the United States, and his allies.
I'll keep your thoughts in mind next time I see PETA in the news, and try to judge fairly.
I'm glad you like the charities I support. Yes, they are Catholic, and so am I, which is where I first heard of them. St. Labre is more than just a school, they're also a surrogate family for many of the children, where parent's are incapacitated by drugs, poverty and alcoholism. I'm firmly in the 'teach a man to fish and he eats for a life time' camp, and education is the most effective method for breaking the cycle of poverty.
And Food For The Poor does emergency relief work, but they also do a lot more. I can never remember the 30 letter word for their program, but the idea is they provide materials, tools and know how, and the locals provide everything else. If they can do it themselves, they will do it, or it won't get done. They don't do subsidies. I read on one project in Guatemala, where they grew excellent coffee, but had no way to get it to market. So they helped them build and set up a coffee bean processing and mail order business. Dependency breeds contempt, self reliance breeds self esteem.
I like your ideas about prod-democracy in Africa. It's the only way they will ever become self reliant. If you haven't read Naton Sharansky's book on democracy, I highly recommend it. He's of the same thoughts.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_0_19?url=search...
And thanks for the debate, I look forward to more!
Enjoy!
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