Natalie Portman: Meat’s a Sin, Free Polanski
by Pam MeisterNatalie Portman is a vegetarian – a vegan, to be precise – and she thinks you should be one too. At least, that’s the impression I get from her article at the Huffington Post. In fact, she really goes so far as to infer that those of us who eat animals or animal products are inhumane beasts.

Apparently, reading Jonathan Safran Foer’s book Eating Animals transformed her from a vegetarian to being a full-fledged vegan activist:
I’ve always been shy about being critical of others’ choices because I hate when people do that to me. I’m often interrogated about being vegetarian (e.g., “What if you find out that carrots feel pain, too? Then what’ll you eat?”).
I’ve also been afraid to feel as if I know better than someone else — a historically dangerous stance (I’m often reminded that “Hitler was a vegetarian, too, you know”). But this book reminded me that some things are just wrong. Perhaps others disagree with me that animals have personalities, but the highly documented torture of animals is unacceptable, and the human cost Foer describes in his book, of which I was previously unaware, is universally compelling.
But she somehow managed to overcome those fears and tell you exactly why you should think the way she does. Well done, Natalie!
I have not read the book, so I can’t comment on it in full. But when someone tells you that usually she doesn’t like to be “critical of others’ choices” or come across as if she “knows better than someone else,” you pretty much know that she’s about to be critical of your choices because she knows better than you do.
You know, there are plenty of reasons for being a vegetarian, or a vegan, if you so choose. Some, like Natalie, think eating animals is “mean.” Some people are vegetarian for religious reasons. Others do it because they think it’s a healthy choice and still others because they have difficulty in digesting meat and other animal products. That’s all fine and dandy. I have no problem accepting these personal choices because that’s what they are: personal choices.
I do, however, take issue when others feel the need to lecture the rest of us, intoning, as Natalie does, “We are not them. But, [Jonathan Safran Foer] urges, how will we define who we are?”
How does Natalie define herself? Well, she did sign the Free Roman Polanski petition and, in her HuffPo article, described Safran Foer’s philosophy by saying, “He posits that consideration, as promoted by Michael Pollan in ‘The Omnivore’s Dilemma,’ which has more to do with being polite to your tablemates than sticking to your own ideals, would be absurd if applied to any other belief (e.g., I don’t believe in rape, but if it’s what it takes to please my dinner hosts, then so be it).”
Nice moral equivocation: comparing not wanting to offend meat eaters with not wanting to offend rapists. Almost as charming as PETA comparing eating meat to the Holocaust.
But I’m not a Harvard grad, so perhaps I’m not as familiar with nuance as Natalie is.
Last year, in 10 Questions for Natalie Portman from TIME Magazine, she was asked if she thought Michael Vick should be allowed to play again for the NFL. Her answer:
I think mistreatment and cruelty to animals should be treated with the same seriousness as cruelty to people if not more. Animals are clearly never at fault.
I’m sure the family of 19-year-old Taylor Mitchell, an up-and-coming country music star in Canada, would agree. Mitchell was attacked by two coyotes while hiking solo at a national park in Nova Scotia. Sadly, she died from her injuries. Perhaps the coyotes didn’t like the way Mitchell looked at them. Or maybe they didn’t like her music. After all, animals are never at fault. I wonder: had someone else been there, armed with a gun, and shot the coyotes in order to save Mitchell’s life, would Natalie have decried it as barbaric? When animals attack humans, should we just step aside because nature is taking it’s course? “We are not them,” after all.
Here’s a question, Natalie: If a person and a dog were drowning and you could only save one, who would it be?
And one wonders what her stance on animal research is. Does she agree with PETA, a group that would ban not only eating animals and having them as pets, but all animal testing – even though their own vice president benefits from insulin for her diabetes, which was developed via animal research? Just curious.
Don’t misunderstand: I don’t approve of animal cruelty either, and believe that there should be some level of punishment to offenders – especially as cruelty toward animals is a sign that such barbarism and cruelty can escalate to violence toward people. Serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer, for example, started out by killing animals by impaling them on stakes [shudder]. And I also believe that animals raised for food should not suffer needlessly. Mary Elizabeth Williams of Salon concurs:
Portman’s galling assumption is that because most of the modern meat industry is notoriously fast, cheap and out of control, there’s no room for cleaner, more ethical practices. That there’s no distinction between the bird that came from a factory and the one that sustains a family farm. It utterly dismisses the efforts of farmers and consumers alike over the last few years to create a healthier, more locally based culture of eating. There’s certainly no mention of any of that in her article.
During my decade or so as a what I call a Star Trek liberal, I was also a vegetarian. I certainly didn’t grow up that way – as a child, I remember enjoying liverwurst sandwiches and steak tartare. It started out as a “health” thing, but eventually became more. I subscribed to a magazine devoted to vegetarianism, dabbled with all sorts of unusual recipes that took forever to cook, and brought my own main dishes to family dinners and veggie dogs and burgers to cookouts. I’m still teased, nearly a decade later, about the lentil loaf I brought to a holiday meal – Thanksgiving or Christmas; I can’t remember which one.
But being a vegetarian, or a vegan, does not necessarily guarantee good health or a great body. Ever look at Moby? Seriously, despite abstaining from meat (but not eggs or dairy), I struggled for years with the weight that I gained during two pregnancies. So much for health.
And it ain’t cheap to be a vegetarian unless all you eat is rice and beans. I understand Natalie is partial to soy cheese.
Also, looking back, I was very priggish about my vegetarianism and tended to lecture others about the perils of eating meat, how it was bad for you and the planet, blah blah. My older sister would call me on it, but I denied being boorish at the time. But now, I admit she was right. And boy, did I miss liverwurst! Slap some on bread with a thick coating of mayo – mmm, hits the spot.

Here’s what it comes down to: “If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn’t eat meat. If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.” Nothing like “defining who we are” by trying to define who everyone else is, too.
Natalie says it’s not only fine for celebrities to try to influence people on issues like elections, but she might run for office herself one day:
“Maybe I can go into politics once I’m too ugly for Hollywood.”
Just what we need: another holier-than-thou lib running for office. Please, Natalie, stick to acting and leave the decision-making to the individual – as it should be. You don’t want to eat meat? Fine. But leave the rest of us alone.
And before you go, please pass the mayo.





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Another celebutard who believes that just because THEY are doing something that THEY are now experts. Kind of like people who have kids, all of a sudden they have become superior on the subject of parenting. Or Al Gore on global warming..He's a senator so that makes him an expert on something scientifical…Hmmmm, what's wrong with this picture.
Already getting kind of ugly inside.
I was a vegetarian in college. I did it bacause a really hot girl told me I couldn't. (No it didn't end successfully)
I am all for people being vegetarians. I'm all for people being carnivores. Who cares.
The problem is that all meat eaters are often pained with the animal torture brush. So if I am a conservative omnivore, in additiona to all the other 'ists' (race, sex, etc) and 'phobes' (islamo, homo, etc, no i have to suffer through being a animal torturer?
Hey whatever, pile it on. I'm getting used to being wrong.
And only – how long, two years? – without red meat? I swear, God just didn't mean us to live that way.
Obviously missing some needed brain chemicals.
Join PETA – People Eating tasty Animals
I really resent people making a personal choice, then trying to force it on everybody, because if I chose it I have to be wiser than you. I am a vegan, but have no desire to try to convince anyone else to do the same. It is my choice, and I give you your choice. Isn't that what freesom is all about. What has happened to us?
Who is this person?
When Ms. Portman is "too ugly for Hollywood", her political ambitions rest in Israel where I believe she is still a citizen. I feel like the US will not miss her.
Have you ever noticed the weirdest among us want others to follow them? So they don't feel so weird, crazy, idiotic, inconsequential, and down-right nuts, I guess.
When I was in Afghanistan I discovered that the Moslems that screamed the loudest about the evils of alcohol were the ones that were sneaking shots in their offices. How's that forbidden cheeseburger taste, Nat?
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She's chewed every scene she's been in; it figures that she'd believe herself expert at what others should chew.
I bet she always gassy. Vegans are always very gassy.
Have no problem with the attempt at a Vegan persuasive argument. In fact, good. It is a healthy choice. I'll still eat steak, but I can respect the argument, as long as we don't start talking about banning meat. But she can't just leave it there. She says rape is wrong (gee, everyone agrees there, Harvard) but equates it to eating meat. Please, clarify what is worse, because if she signs a petition to free a child rapist, it sounds like she thinks my choice of a steak dinner is more morally reprehensible than Polanski raping a 13 year old.
Yes free him with a short piece of rope!
Spell much?
Is there no end to the gall of Ms. Portman? Can't she just be content with ruining Star Wars?
You have seen her in a number of films but you don't recognize her, she was in all three of the Star Wars prequels. Good actress, but she is being warped by being in Hollyweird too much.
Wow, I've never heard that one before. Very clever and original! *sigh*
I always like Natalie, she has given some good performances so I am content to treat her like most of the strippers I used to date when I was younger. They were nice to look at, but when they talked I simply nodded my head or ignored them when they were speaking nonsense.
hey, when the fuzzy bunny is in the pot for rabbit stew, why shouldn't the carrots have to suffer along with the bunny? i also wonder, if natalie ever has children, if she wants them raped and sodomized by the likes of polanski, and if she would be as proud of the rapist of her own children?
Ever notice how actors are influenced by every simple minded idea that comes along? Me too. I dont care what Portman eats, I dont care if she doesnt eat. Long as she minds her own business, and I'll mind mine.
Natalie Portman has contributed to exactly one decent film, The Professional, and a damn fine film it was. But other than sucking and blowing air, her reflection of modern american "higher education" as well as Liberal-Hollywood- think is her only noteworthy accomplishment.
*She contributed to Lucas's prequels AND hates steak?- Evil. No other interpretation.
Shut up and sing, or act , or whatever, but please shut up !
I saw on the History Channel that Hitler had a really bad problem with flatulence. He was given some sort of injection for that.
"What if you find out that carrots feel pain, too? Then what’ll you eat?"
I wonder what her view on abortion is since a fetus feels pain at 23 weeks. Just curious.
I'm a libertarian and a vegetarian. Eat whatever you want, folks.
You can pry my ham and cheese on rye from my cold, dead hands.
Wow,
I think the affair with Sean Penn really warped her.
I wonder how she feels about the title "Homewrecker"
Here is a news flash Natalie, keep your skanky morals to your self. You have no Moral Authority to tell anyone what to do, what to eat or what to believe, after all you are a homewrecker. Maybe your don't care about some guy's wife or kids, but surely you can spare some compassion for their dog and parakett and leave that man alone.
How come when religious communities preach about unbelievers being saved, there is a need to respect their thoughts because it's their belief system, but when Natalie Portman preaches about vegetarianism, she's an extremist?
I love vegetarians. They love organic vegies Organic vegies are raised on animal poop and waste. Organics can't use fertilizer from the petrol industries. Of course they have a 10 fold increased risk of e-coli which is carried by the manoo. I eat beefsteak. Vegetarians eat vegies raised on the poop from the animal that gave me the steaks.
Another member of the Ivy League-educated, 'elite'. But it's also combined with the far-left Hollywood mentality, which ignores their own hypocrisies. Yes, Ms Portman is all for freeing a child rapist. As a child actress, was she told that it was such an honor to be assaulted by a well-known artiste? Would he own parents gladly hand her over to be drugged by a middle-aged man?
She is saying, "I'm Harvard educated, and I go to all the 'right' parties and am seen with all the 'right' people. I have absolute moral authority to tell you to stop eating meat, what kind of house to live in, what lifestyle to live. Never mind that I produce tons of carbon flying from place to place for things you little people will never benefit from, and waste energy in my multi-million dollar, several thousand foot houses. You have no right to eat meat because I know better than you and because I'm Harvard-educated and make lots of money standing in front of a camera and repeatring words that others have written, you better do what I say, or you are evil."
Good point. "Extremists" are people with whom we disagree.
WOW, she endorses a convicted pediphile going free without serving hard time? Hummm, I'll think seriously about buying a movie ticket to any of her future "works"… better to get them off the Net so no money flows into her sick pockets.
I agree with her – judged by your actions, and her actions on Roman Polaski speak volumes.
Natalie is just lucky her first director was Luc Besson and not Roman Polanski.
I can't help but think that the need of some to force their views on others is a sign of their lack of faith and commitment. Otherwise, why would they need to ban what they don't believe in rather than live a life demonstrating the wonderfulness of their views.
I have a cousin who is vegan, and also a narcissist, when people began to avoid her vegan fare parties, she took steps to assure a body count at her soirees, she serves hot dogs and hamburgers- yes, of real meat.
In reading how much Miss Portman reads, I am reminded of a Czech dissident who lived with us when I was a child. He had an engineer's degree, but warned me against "Reading myself stupid.", which is a way of telling me not to surrender my natural intelligence to any idiot that pens a book. When we read, we sometimes surrender our own ability to think to absorb the words of the author without discernment. When you do that, you end up a Portman.
Religious communities (or vegitarians) trying to merely persuade people to their point of veiw is one thing. But the problem with political vegetarians and the left as a whole is that they NEVER try merely to pursuade. They always seek to enforce their ideas on everyone through force of law.
"You have seen her in a number of films…"
No, I've never seen her in any film because I started my boycott of all things Hollyweird in 1968. That includes TV, DVD, CD, and cable.
It's the vacant "I'm hungry" stare and the fact she holds up production of films by being only able to work so many hours a day.
M-U-C-H, much.
Who is this woman and why is her message important?
I've never heard complaints about lion or snake farts, but the GW idiots sure get tense about cows and pigs….which are vegans.
So that's the reason for all his funky hand motions, he was waving off the stink.
Oh, do shut up, you silly little twit!
Preachers can be ignored, political activist can't be because the try to ENFORCE their beliefs on others.
because the people being preached to walked into the church. when natalie opens up a vegan church, whoever walks in can listen to her preach, until then shut up. then again, the idea of screaming carrots is a new one, can she show us proof of the screaming, they might be masochistic, and like the biting?
"Harvard educated" is an oxymoron. It should be "attended Harvard."
What you probably don't understand is that when Portman was first cast in Star Wars, a hypodermic for horses was loaded right out of George Lucas's ass and injected directly into her pea brain to give it more volume.
Is there anything dumber than a Hollywood actor?
Ms. Portman looks like she's suffering from sausage deprivation.
"I'm a pervert. I think everybody should be one". – Barney Frank
I can't believe I wasted my time reading an article about someone who wasted their time writing about a person who is a waste of time.
We're discussing this idiot why………?
i agree with exception of the parenting thing. i have 4 kids, i might have an advantage over some one with none. having said that, portman is an idiot. steak cooked over fire=nummy.
I don't eat mammals. My own personal choice, however, I don't care what others eat. We are animals. Only a higher form and humans are carnivores. That is how it is. You don't blame a dog for being a dog or a butterfly for being a butterfly. As far as Polanski, he is a criminal. He should be in jail.
Wow, I used to like her…enjoyed a lot of her movies, and the fact that she went to college, and seems to otherwise be a very intelligent woman. But after seeing that she is stupid enough to support Polanski, I have lost all respect for her.
I think she was way off base signing the Polanski petition. That guy needs to rot in jail. That said, I do agree with her on the vegan issue, being one myself. It's not a matter of "outlawing" meat or other animal products…. we live in a country where we're basically free to do what we want in that arena. However, very few people know how meat and animal products actually arrive on their table… in the same way that they don't really know how Nike shoes actually arrive at their feet. Exposing the industry for what it is….. making public what they would prefer you not to see, is critical in being able to make an educated decision about what you eat. We should be conscious consumers, and that includes knowing the nasty downsides to things we are going to buy. If, given all the facts, you still want to eat meat, that's your choice, but I hardly see it as being "extremist" to want the truth to be told.
When Conservatives take over the country, we can amend the U.S. Constitution and once and for all put an end to opinions. There is only one legitimate viewpoint; the Conservative viewpoint. Who does this little punk girl think she is, Glenn Beck? As long as non-conservatives are allowed to shoot their mouths off whenever they please, the whole fiber of this conservative nation is threatened. People grab your firearms! Go to the town halls and Boo people in wheelchairs! Down with regulations! Long live corporate power!
I always enjoy reading "You should be vegan" articles while eating a meat-filled lunch, today, Cincinnati's Skyline Chili. My wife is a vegetarian because she doesn't like the idea that she's eating something that lived. But she has no problem cooking me a steak, eggs, hamburger, chicken, etc… Yep, you guessed it, she's a conservative. I defend her choice against people who think she would try to force all people to forgo meat, but then again, she doesn't need my help to defend herself. Unlike Miss Portman apparently, she can think for herself. She doesn't need some book to tell her what to think. Again, you guessed it, she's a conservative.
Pam, Pam never, never put mayo and liverwurst together. It goes against all humanity.
Yes my dear Portman, if Polanski had only plied the poor girl with a veggy burger instead of his meat poker all would be OK. No Mr. polanski plied her with a sedative, champagne and orally sodamized her vagina, yes that is legal sodomy. Anally raped the semiconscious tween, then to her amazement , woke up with his pee pee in her mouth orafice, he was sodomizing her mouth while she lay unconscious, she says she had a strange taste in her mouth upon waking, semen and fecal matter it appears. Yes, the veggie burger would have been more humaine and understanding of this great humanitarian artiste. Bugliosi described Polanski as a street urchin of the lowest type. A reprobate, sex degenerate and otherwise scum of the earth. I wouldn't piss on his grave. I don't like standing in line. Polanski would make his wife , Sharon Tate, watch pornographic movies of her and scum bag Roland in front of house guests. I suggest that scum bag Roland be put in a octagon cage with his nemisis Charles Manson and have them settle their issues. A death match. Televise it on Pay Per View, and pay down on the national debt.. How's that for libertine thinking…
I'm a vegetarian because I used to work for a business where I had to drive pigs to a slaughterhouse. Something like that is a shock to folks who don't think too deeply about their food.
To use a figure of speech literally, most people don't want to see the sausage factory. They'd rather not know where Nike shoes come from or how their food gets to their table. I never expected to become a vegetarian but it was kind of a natural consequence of seeing the sausage factory.
She has become the real life Pooh, to the real life Polanski.
She had an affair with Sean Penn? Wow, now I'm not going to say anything bad about her personally. Clearly these statements aren't totally her fault; being around Penn would give anyone brain damage.
Lacking meat, they need to find a way to feed their appetite for attention and relevancy.
Her phrase "universally compelling" says it all. To the liberal mindset nurtured by Harvard and other fine institutions, there can be no room for disagreement on the issues. Everything has to be made to fit within some "rational" framework, and if people don't fit liberals' theories of this framework, it's because they haven't been properly educated at best, or at worst, they're racist/idiots/insert your own slander. Actually, this is a rather informative statement she has made–just not in the way she likely intended.
Please run Ms. Portman! DO IT! I would love to see you run for office against a common sense conservative and have him (or her) kick your butt (politically that is).
Or maybe this is a stage, and a few more years of living under the strict rules of veganism and liberlism, she might change her mind and leave childish things behind.
Maybe Natalie would like to be drugged and raped by the sodomite Roman Polanski while eating a tofu samwitch and have it presented to the Cannes film festival as a art house porn flick.
Good point for idiots like you. When was the last time a non-believer was compared to a rapist? When was the last time someone tried to ban people who weren't Christians. An extremist is someone who tries to force their opinions on others. Otherwise, no one would know they were an extremist
So it's bad to eat meat, but child rape is fine with her.
Message to Miss Portman, your an actress, your job is to play other people, how can we believe anything you say or do.
Why does she want everyone to avoid meat? Because misry loves company. I barbecued some ribs this weekend. The meat fell off the bones and melted in my mouth.
The vegans are waging an all out holocaust on fruits and vegetables and they need to be stopped before it is too late! If anything we should be consuming animals as fast as we can to slow global warming and protect the only thing that keeps us from turning our planet into a raging inferno and that is the cO2 breathing plants!
"Maybe I can go into politics once I’m too ugly for Hollywood"
Is this a confirmation of how shallow both Hollywood and American politics are?
Life imitating art? we report you decry. In the film Rosemary's Baby, Mia Farrow character is drugged then raped by the devil. Year 1977, a young girl is drugged and raped by the auteur 'film director' Polanski.
Didn't this nitwit have a vegan shoe line (whatever that means) that tanked? I do like the idea of her quitting acting. I wish she followed through on that idea years ago.
Pam Meister (the writer) should learn the difference between "infer" and "imply".
The listener infers what the speaker has said.
The speaker implies his concept to the listener.
To Infer is to decipher.
Additionally,Natalie Portman would be singing a different tune if she were the one who was drugged/raped and sodomized in the ass by the creep Polanski.
I think Ms. Portman illustrates the fact that failing to eat meat CAN cause brain damage. I wonder if I can spin this theory enough to get stimulus dollars to fund my research? Hmm…
I just laugh these people off. After all, you can't spell "slaughter" without "laughter".
She screwed up this season of Top Chef! I disliked that episode very much.
If vegetarianism/veganism is so healthful, why do its prponents always recommend taking multi-vitamins to "supplement" what they are getting from their diets? A well rounded diet including meat, fish, dairy and vegetables/fruit means no vitamin pills and naturally good health. And don't forget to go out in the sun occaisionally to get your natural vitamin d.
"WOW, she endorses a convicted pediphile going free without serving hard time?"
I'm reasonably certain that there's an "o" in that word… unless I mis-read the article and Mrs. Portman has endorsed a suspension of jail time for a man convicted of deriving sexual excitement from having his nails cleaned…
The writer should check the difference between the words "infer" and "imply." Portman implies, not infers, that those who eat animals etc.
I'm sure she eats meat and swallows animal based protein. Just ask any of her boyfriends or girlfriends. I bet a video of it will surface on the internet someday.
"If a person and a dog were drowning and you could only save one, who would it be?"
Haven't heard this one in awhile. I know it's supposed to sound like a big profound clarifying question… but it's far too vauge. My immediate response is: "Which person, which dog?" Cause if the dog is MY dog and the person is… I dunno, Kim Jong-Il?… then that dude is gonna drown
Now, if we insist on speaking in generic terms, then the answer is easy: The Dog. Since I have no mitigating information otherwise, all I have to go on is statistics and probability… and any given human has a MUCH higher probability of going on to committ evil acts than any given dog.
Affair with Sean Penn?
yuck !
Natalie it is the Holiest of Lucks that you Help Friend Polanski.
Since no outporings of supports since OUTRAGE arrest of Mr Polanski, I VIKTOR lead official FREE POLANSKI efforts with rescues missions.
May you soar like alpine eagles and visit official freepolanski.tk websites!
Who is Natalie Portman ? Really, I have never heard of her.
I only disagree with one point here. Please don't encourage Portman to stick to acting. She's not very good at that either.
I'm wondering how long it is going to take after Penn's divorce for them to go public?
The rope can even be made of hemp!
That may be true chaka but you have to admit that it doesn't make one an expert. I mean I can herd cattle but that wouldn't make me an expert on steak.
Well, technically, Star Wars, especially that last 3 movies, was an independent production, not Hollywood. But yeah, Lucas got swallowed up by the Beast ideologically even though he tried to avoid it. But he still remains independent of the studios and unions.
No, but it would make you an expert on herding cattle. Just like raising kids gives you experience raising kids. Being a vegetarian gives you experience being a vegetarian, not on farming, raising animals, or any of the myriad other jobs that contribute to the food industry.
I get the point you were trying to make, I just think parenting wasn't a good example. The herding cattle example would have been better in the original post.
What is so wrong with trying to convince people that your opinion is the right one? Even if you are condescending about it, so what? Grow some skin, people! As long you don't try to legislate your opinion then come, let's reason together. For a society that sings the virtues of "diversity" there sure seems to be a lot of wishing other people would shut up. That's got to stop. It's like a marriage, if we can't argue openly, we're done for.
gaystapo?
In all seriousness, harvesting meat through commercial sources is insensitive and brutal. That being said, i am a hardcore meat lover, yesterday, today, tomorrow. There was a time when I considered hunting to be archaic, but recently I have been reconsidering. Imagine eating natural meat, in its entirety, untouched by machine, chemicals and man. Imagine being thankful for your food and actually prioritizing the catch, preparation, and storage of meat in your lives. We are too removed from nature with our conveniences, but I digress.
so you are expressing your opinion about some people's opinionated posts on an opinion based website.
Freedom baby, gotta love it
look man you like me have opinions about just about everything. You like me seem to like disagreeing with other people's. So somehow that is trying to shut down free speech? This site nor the individuals commenting on it are not that power hungry.
this is a site where you like me are allowed to spout off. Seems like we both did. congratulations.
Natalie. Sweetheart. Baby cakes.
“Maybe I can go into politics once I’m too ugly for Hollywood.” Thank god the pretty face hides your ugliness.
Wow! 13 year old girls aren't even the equivalent of meat anymore!
Ms. Portaman is a draft-dodger in the eyes of the Israeli government….I doubt here political future is too brigt there.
Hey Pam….what is a "Star Trek liberal"?
"Oh Annakin! Hold you like you used to!"
I love animals.
They are delicious.
While stationed in Germany, I used to do a lot of Volksmarches. I always loved to stop at one of the small refreshment tents along the way and enjoy a liverwurst sandwich on a fresh brotchen roll with a good strong mustard, local cheese and a pickle, washed down with a fine hefeweizen beer. That always served to improve my enjoyment of a nice hike through some beautiful parts of Germany.
Wow. Looks like Padme has joined her husband on the darkside…
I'm a farmer that's exactly how it is. When people speak about organic food I just swmile.
This post lost credibility at "I have not read the book…"
another nitwit that should shut the hell up..
That wouldn't necessarily make me an "expert" at herding cattle, it would just mean that I had "experience" at herding cattle. Doing something doesn't necessarily mean that one will do it well.
Sorry if someone else said this, but I promise you that for Ms. Portman meat = murder, but abortion on demand is a basic human right. Only the leftist mind is sick enough to have both beliefs at the same time.
I must be a member of PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals.
I just had a salad, Greek at that, with Gyro meat. I think Gyro meat is made up of what ever little animals didn't escape the blender. Either way, good for your heart, mind, and colon. Thank you yummy little animals!
Have you ever seen a healthy looking vegan? Why must they always share with you about their bowel movements? For me, I'll stick with the four food groups and some animals on the side.
Peace.
: )
How about that sting ray that took our the crocodile guy?
I Love Natalie Portman.
I Don't eat meat and i want a badge or a t-shirt FREE POLANSKI.
I love Roman Polanski too.
If i could sign the petition for Roman polanski's freedom then i would sign it
FIFTY MILLION TIMES , Using a different name FIFTY MILLION TIMES ,
BUT IT WOULD ALWAYS BE ME.
I've protected WINONA RYDER too , and i bought a t-shirt FREE WINONA , back in 2002.
When she was arrested in december 2001 it looked like Winona had commited a couple
of MURDERS – but it was only shoplifting.
No big deal , people do-it everyday.
That's when i realised how hysterical Americans could be.
And the same is now the case with a crime commited in march 1977 by Roman Polanski.
What he did was no more than typical male behaviour.
Men fuck girls , NEVER ask about a girl's age , and then suddenly they get arrested.
We have most of our braincells in our penis.
You can't blame us for that.
That's a gift from the good man above (GOD).
Have a nice evening.
Don Heckers
Start talking up legislation to force people to eat meat. They'll start singing a different tune.
Kind of like the circle of life.
For once I have to agree with MovieBob.
"A short drop and a sudden stop"
~ Lt Norrington, Pirates of the Carribean (1)
Wow! It's hate Natalie Portman day. It is always so uplifting to read the screed on this site.
Of course there are, haven't you seen any movies coming out of that place lately?
Now that's just begging for a punch line.
I didn't I'm just going through the comments. I've been around liberals long enough to see horse shit with thin the first few lines.
Because it's Monday and we need to discuss something.
My same reaction. Penn's older than me and I see NP as a kid way too young to even consider that way.
One of my favorite lines is the only real difference between humans and dogs is thumbs, and we know we got it coming.
I rather think of it as the circle of nitrogen.
Another has-been ingenue. I love it when they get a little older, and don't get any scripts offered them.
Ah yes, the circle of Poo…
Another of South Park's more amusing episodes…
Hate to break it to you but the only power corporations have over you is the power they purchase from government. IBM can't make you buy one of the computers, Toshiba can't make you buy a TV from them.
A couple of years ago NY state outlawed the old style propane tanks, forcing every one in the state to buy new ones. So the corporations that make them, and the corporations that sell them, made a bundle. So did the state on sales tax.
That's how smart corporations do it. Much cheaper and easier to just out right buy politicians.
sometimes by dog is a much better person than I am….:)
<<He had an engineer's degree, but warned me against "Reading myself stupid.",>>
Thank you, I am so going to use this as well.
Reminds me of rant I heard Rush on a couple of years ago. Know how you can solve the problem of animals going extinct? Eat them. No one eats eagles, and look at them. Notice how many cows there are?
Hmmmm, I'll ponder that over a hamburger.
Nah – merely confirmation of one of Rush Limbaugh's "Undeniable Truths": " Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women access to the mainstream of society."
It _is_ a little strange to hear that from a liberal, though.
What I want to know is how in the hell did a dog and person who can't swim get out in the middle of the lake in the first place?
Because when it comes to the left, it starts out with raising awareness, but it eventually leads to legislation.
States are in the process of passing laws prohibiting people from smoking on their own property.
"We are too removed from nature with our conveniences, but I digress."
Indeed, we can discuss this for a whole afternoon. I'm all for modern tech and all the pluses it brings, but I also believe we should keep up to speed on our ancient skills that allowed us to survive long enough to come up with tech in the first place.
Roman Polanski is a wonderful man.
He's not a creep at all.
His love-making is normal for European standards.
And how can tell for sure that having sex with Roman Polanski is disguisting ?
You don't know that , unless you did it with him.
Did you ?
Natalie Portman is wonderful too.
Agree, we all deserve freedom. However, why should we take freedom away from animals? I mean, if the very nature of the debate is 'freedom', why are animals any less deserving?
There's still going to be some machines involved in the dressing stage, I have a lot of friends who hunt deer in the fall. Parts of the deer are only suitable to be ground up. But I'll you, venison steaks can be really awesome.
I haven't gone trot fishing for a few years, but morning in the stream, afternoon on the grill and evening on the dinner table is phenomenal.
One who cares more about the prime directive than boldly going where no man has gone before.
portman may be a vegetarian, but more importantly is that we don't care what she blubbers about. will she please just wander back to her equally dimbulb friends and shut up???
with ketchup!
Very true. Animals sacred, children disposable.
Another Hollywood kook lost in their own little elitist world. I have no problem going to see movies, or seeing tv shows with these weirdos in the cast. I enjoy the story for what it is and I don't hero worship. So whether it's Alec Baldwin, or Charlie Sheen, or George Clooney, etc etc. I just enjoy the film and beyond that, I'm not interested in kissing anyone's backside, or adopting their nutty beliefs, or care about their political comments. You are a COURT JESTER….that's what you get paid to do….so DO IT. Does Portman, or any "vegan" for that matter, realize the animal products in the clothes they wear?? One step further…does any leftty kook realize the petroleum products that are used in the production of not just the clothes they wear, but about a billion items they commonly use or see around them everyday? Evidentially post secondary education, esp. at Harvard, has little to do with common sense.
Rush has it right. I think one day a year PETA tries to get every one in the nation to not eat meant. On that day, Rush has a big barbecue at his house, and he only serves meat.
Then why are you here?
I think you miss the point of her attitudes. It's not that she wants to force people to turn vegan, but more so she wants to stop the mass slaughter of animals. I think that's a worthy goal and for you to dismiss it as "weird and idiotic" is an obviously attempt at demeaning her so that you feel better for choosing to eating tortured / slaughtered creatures. It's a common method for people to justify their actions. Make the other person look demented, and then your position looks slightly better – classic psychology. Well, it doesn't work on me.
Have you ever noticed that animals eat animals. It seems to me to be the way this ole world was created. We could outlaw Lions eating animals, but that would seem pretty silly. Saying humans cannot eat meat seems to me just as silly. Many people need the meat protein, enjoy their steaks, and tho I do not want to join them, it is not my place to try to change nature. And if we suddenly outlawed meat, we would all be short on protien, it takes years to get nut farms going, etc. Man has eaten meat for as long as he has been on this planet. Who am I to say it was wrong?
Hey, I resent that. Actually it all depends on what you eat. It is not a given. I know lots of gassy meat-eaters!!!
I am a conservative and I don't give a darn what you do in your bedroom. Only want to keep the government out of my life!!
Because she wants to control us with laws, not persuation!
So you disagree with one belief of hers and then write her off as a person? That doesn't speak very highly of you. You know my guess. You are guilty (subconsciously, or otherwise) about the torture you inflict daily on animals, so to make yourself feel justified, you write her off as 'a stupid stripper who shouldn't talk'. Anybody who's studied even a little psychology knows that this is a classic symptom of "cognitive dissonance". I.e. you have conflicting thoughts about meat-eating, 1. meat is natural and good, and 2. It's an abhorrent practice. To prevent internal dissonance, you criticise all those who make you feel bad about meat-eating.
So sad. I had SUCH a big crush on her back in the day…
Just shut up and act… stupid!
Don't like the truth, hey?
You may wish to think us primates aren't omnivores, but that doesn't change the fact of what is *normal* for our species.
I'm almost 100% carnivore and do most of my own killing and butchering. I've been to packing plants and I live among ranchers and farmers and I have NEVER seen what I would call torture of an animal. It is counter productive to the entire process. WHEAT is thrashed to within an inch of it's life, though!! LOL
Pam, excellent article! Back in my college days, I found myself surrounded by mostly liberal friends (I was in the visual arts department). I had always thought that being "liberal" meant being open-minded to all ideas, and especially not forcing ideas on people while being judgmental. But that is exactly how these people lived their lives. To be "open-minded" was always expected of those who they disagreed with. They wouldn't have to be open to conservative ideas because in their eyes, that was "wrong thinking". And it was ok to be judgmental of "wrong thinking".
I have never felt so constrained and imprisoned as far as free-thought and expression as I did when I was immersed in the liberal social circles. Every word had to be carefully thought out to avoid being politically incorrect.
I'll never forget the day a female artist was showing her project to the class. The theme of her project was her pro-life views. The professor, followed by the rest of the liberal students pounced on her personal views like a pack of wolves. They didn't even critique her work, but who she was as a person; her views. I witnessed the deflation of a woman who was filled with so much passion for her work, and it made me see who these people really were- -fascists.
You state we should all have a choice in what we eat. We shouldn't be 'forced' to eat a certain way. However, my question is this – Are animals afforded the same right? That is, do they get a choice in how they live their lives? Do they get a choice in what they eat, where they live, and how they spend their rime? By condoning meat, the answer is a big fat NO. Obviously, animals would prefer to be out in nature doing what they do. For humans to force them into cages, force a man-made diet down their throats, force antibiotics in their systems, and then have the nerve to say "We should have the freedom to choose"….. is totally immoral. It takes a real con-artist to say otherwise, or someone who is extremely self-deluded. It's good that you're vegetarian, but I can't see how you can condone people eating "whatever you want, folks".
All the cheese and ham will probably get you there a lot faster.
Thanks Paul- I just have never seen the point in movies and don't care to see people dressed up and making fools of themselves. I'm a reader of non fiction mostly and much prefer my imagination that of others. I've seen the first five minutes of maybe a hundred movies….and maybe a dozen all the way through. (things guys do to get a date!)
Yes, because religious communities never rally over political actions. They had nothing to do with the banning of gay marriage. There are extremists on every side.
Those who bashed George W. Bush and like to believe 9/11 was a myth (ugh!) and those who feel the need to criticize Obama over everything. I swear, one day, he'll be blasted for not breathing correctly.
You'd agree that stealing is wrong? The government force us not steal, right. But yet we're constantly ripped off from all the big corporations (see capitalism). Murder is wrong, right? We are forced by the government not to murder, yes? But yet they have the power to murder people if they choose (see death penalty, wars, etc.).
The fact is, you are responsible for animals being inhumanely treated, and you want a 'get out of jail free' card. You are guilty (subconsciously, or otherwise) about the torture you inflict daily on animals, so to make yourself feel justified, you write vegans off as 'idiots'. Anybody who's studied even a little psychology knows that this is a classic symptom of "cognitive dissonance". I.e. you have conflicting thoughts about meat-eating, 1. meat is natural and good, and 2. It's an abhorrent practice. To prevent internal dissonance, you criticise all those who make you feel bad about it. Congratulations – you're a typical hypocritical human.
Don't eat honey either.
It's bee slavery!
You're completely wrong. Many meat-eaters react like this regardless of whether someone is trying to 'force' them, or just 'persuade' them. Do you know why? Anybody who's studied psychology knows that this is a classic symptom of "cognitive dissonance". I.e. they have conflicting thoughts about meat-eating, 1. meat is natural and good, and 2. It's an abhorrent practice. To prevent internal dissonance, they criticise all those who make them feel bad about it.
That's wrong. You can ignore anyone you choose to. However, me thinks that you feel a little guilty about imprisoning, slaughtering, and eating animals.
Lol. Be my guest Brother EdSki the mic is yours.
By reading this article, you chose to listen to her. You could have ignored it, but you chose to listen. Why, may I ask? Don't worry, I know the answer. You feel guilty about meat-eating, so to justify it to yourself, you are critical of vegans.
That's such a monstrous and inhumane idea it's scary. I'll always go for the human.
I know that's why I wrote, "as long as you are not trying to legislate your opinion". But what I'm speaking to is this stupid post-modern notion that proselytizing is somehow bad. Rather then avoid each other, lets debate and do our best to convince those in the middle and on the left that the conservative way is the best for our society. Let the left tell us to shut up because that just shows they can't win the argument and the majority in the middle will see that. But when the right starts acting like the left, then we all loose.
Roman Polanski IS in jail , don't you know that ?
And the more time he's in jail in Europe the LESS time he would have to do in America.
IF any time at all.
Most unlikely.
Why ?
How can anyone remember BY DETAIL what happened in march 1977 ?
How can you deliver PROOF against Polanski that can be used in the courtoom in 2009 ?
YOU CAN'T.
So how does this end ?
CASE DISMISSED !
I pretty much agree with everything you wrote. Experience has taught me, when the right starts talking like this, its more of a statement of their opinion. But when the left does it, its a lot more with an eye on government intervention.
If Portman and her colleagues had their way, eating meat would already be against the law. But they know they can't get that through a Congress that has to face voters. So they'll stick to raising awareness for now, and nibble at the edges of our freedom.
Isn't it funny? All these meat-eaters complaining about people "telling them how to live their lives". Guess what, you didn't have to read the article. You knew by the title what it was going to be about. However you continued to read then blamed Natalie for trying to force her beliefs onto you. More fool you for reading the article.
You know what I think – I think if you were truly content with your decision to eat meat, you would never even bother with "loons" like Natalie. But instead, you choose to read and then cry "You can't force me to change my barbaric ways!". Psychologically speaking, that's an admittance of guilt. You obviously feel confused about the matter and to make yourself feel justified, you treat vegans as "crazy" and "extremist" and any other negative word you can come up with. But the fact is, the only people committing an immoral act is you. You're the ones imprisoning animals, injecting them with antibiotics, feeding them an unnatural diet, and then finally slaughtering them and eating them. You all feel guilty about it, but are not prepared to admit that guilt. Istead blame other, hey? Haha.
Don't worry meat-eaters, it won't be people like Natalie stopping you from eating meat. With the carbon-taxes that will probably come into action in the next few years, meat will become so expensive (due to the amount of resources required for its production) and will become out of reach by the common man.
i would say that we've all made some insightful, intellectually honest points. and, we did it like adults! we must not be liberals. high fives all around.
Ah, damn, joke block!
Isn't it funny? All these meat-eaters complaining about people "telling them how to live their lives". Guess what, you didn't have to read the article. You knew by the title what it was going to be about. However you continued to read then blamed Natalie for trying to force her beliefs onto you. More fool you for reading the article. You know what I think – I think if you were truly content with your decision to eat meat, you would never even bother with "loons" like Natalie. But instead, you choose to read and then cry "You can't force me to change my barbaric ways!". Psychologically speaking, that's an admittance of guilt. You obviously feel confused about the matter and to make yourself feel justified, you treat vegans as "crazy" and "extremist" and any other negative word you can come up with. But the fact is, the only people committing an immoral act is you. You're the ones imprisoning animals, injecting them with antibiotics, feeding them an unnatural diet, and then finally slaughtering them and eating them. You all feel guilty about it, but are not prepared to admit that guilt. Istead blame other, hey? Haha. Don't worry meat-eaters, it won't be people like Natalie stopping you from eating meat. With the carbon-taxes that will probably come into action in the next few years, meat will become so expensive (due to the amount of resources required for its production) and will become out of reach by the common man.
Ms. Portman should stop to consider, what she would think, and how she would react, to my attempts at imposing my religious/philosophical beliefs on her? How many millions of people have died, down through the ages, because of people like her, doing things like this?
Exactly – I am tired of both libertarians and liberals assuming that we conservatives want to control what goes on in their bedrooms. I don't care if you're a freak – just keep it in the bedroom!
Yes, I am responsible and you know what? I don't give a crap.
I am the exception to the rule. I know I am inflicting suffering and I DON'T GIVE A DAMN.
Don't like it? TOO DAMN BAD. Build a bridge and get over it.
I'm not guilty. I quite like the idea, I really do.
Are you going to stop this? Nobody really cares. Nobody is really guilty over this. I certainly am not.
So do you feel guilty over the poor Canadian country singer who got mauled by a bunch of dirty animals? Of course not. Because animals are perfect and can do no wrong. NO animals can be put down, EVER!
Please. I'm going to have a turkey sandwich for lunch and I'm going to enjoy that sandwich, knowing that the stupid turkey most likely suffered in a cage somewhere before being slaughtered. I don't give a damn. The turkey should have been faster. The turkey should have been smarter. The turkey should have run away. But it's too damn stupid to get away, so it gets eaten. Just like every other freaking animal in the animal kingdom. Boo freaking hoo.
Oh look, the rapist sympathizer is back.
I second that Chaka!
Well, as an evil, brain-dead, knuckle-dragging conservative, I wouldn't save either.
That's me, with my wife and three kids.
>"I’ve always been shy about being critical of others’ choices because I hate when people do that to me… But…"<
Experts say that vegans expel 10x more greenhouse flatus due to their legume rich diet. One must wonder if Miss Portman's carbon credits are paid up to date since her devotional to Jonathan Safran Foer’s book 'Eating Animals'.
Besides, if God didn't want us to eat animals He wouldn't have made them out of meat.
Here’s what it comes down to: “If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn’t eat meat. If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.” Nothing like “defining who we are” by trying to define who everyone else is, too.
Hilarious. Ever heard of Pro-life. Whatever.
I see your point, and I agree that the growth hormones and antibiotics are completely unnatural, but if all animals were simply left "out in nature doing what they do," they would be eating each other the same way humans eat them now. To ignore that fact is to ignore reality.
HUMANS ARE ANIMALS. We're at the top of the food chain primarily because of our intelligence. That intelligence allows us to acquire food in very different ways from the rest of the animal kingdom, and it also affords us the ability to see the flaws within that system and choose other ways of eating. Most animals, if placed in the right situation, wouldn't think twice about eating you or me; humna intelligence, however, gives you and me the ability to choose not to eat an animal.
You are such a pathetic idiot.
I was thinking of something. I think it is so funny that these people, who most likely believe in the theory of evolution and therefore believe that we humans are animals evolved from monkeys or whatever, are too civilized to eat meat.
Yes, I am content with eating meat and I only clicked on the link to this blog entry to see how many moronic trolls would infest the comments section, bleating on and on about how horrible we are for criticizing Natalie Portman for pushing her stupid beliefs on people. And what does that make us? According to your painfully idiotic armchair psychological analysis, we must feel guilty for eating meat! That has got to be the most ridiculous thing I have EVER read.
As I have noted over and over again in prior comments, I don't feel guilty and I don't care. After I finish with you, I'll go to the kitchen and will probably have some meat for lunch, and maybe even dinner. And I won't feel guilty about it.
Furthermore, think upon this. Even as you sit there, with your computer and your pathetic armchair analysis of us meat-eaters, you too are contributing to the suffering of animals. Your computer requires electricity to run, so therefore the electrical plant that generates the electricity for your computer to run was probably built on or near some habitat for random wood critters.
Or how about all the veggies you eat? Those have to be harvested off of some farm somewhere, and guess what happens to the critters that the farmer doesn't raise for food? They get twisted and maimed by the machines used to harvest your freaking vegetables.
Do you know how much fossil fuels and water is required to recycle things like plastic and rubber?
You can find the answer to that at the following link: http://maddox.xmission.com/hatemail.cgi
It may be a satirical site but in this instance, he did his research. I will leave you with this direct quote from that link: "Unless you plant, grow and pick your own crops, you're not doing everything you can to "limit" the suffering."
Remember, jonte, the manufacture of that computer you're using is probably responsible for the death of many little animals. Your continued use of that computer – as well as the clothes you wear, and the electricity you use for all the other electrical appliances you use in your house or apartment – are still killing many more little animals. So in reality, you are just as guilty as I am, perhaps even more so because you seem to care so much, while I do not care.
That would make you a hypocrite of the lowest order.
Her head is as empty as her acting is bad. Some of the dumbest, most immoral people I have ever met have been educated? at our elite universities. Get real and have a hot dog Natalie. You'll be a lot happier.
Hey Don, do your research. He has already been CONVICTED in the US courts of rape. He FLED before his sentencing, so you can add the charge fleeing to it. So there will BE no more trial, he is already a convicted felon who just belongs behind bars HERE where he should have been years ago. and I hope they tack on lotsa time for his flight to escape justice.
Steelerfan ,
You're trying to say that it's not a smart careermove that she's protecting Roman Polanski , isn't that true ?
Many American parents have a 13 year old daughter walking the streets for money because the girl has
an addiction to heroin or crystal meth.
And these parents have nothing better to do than waste their time on the Polanski case ?
How STUPID is that ?
Their addicted teenager daughter is fucking everybody , even people of 65 or 70 years old.
And those horny old men are NEVER getting arrested for having sex with a minor.
America some serious problems , there's no time to waste on a 32 year old case of Roman Polanski.
And they don't have any money to waste because California is BANKRUPT.
They're sending criminals home BEFORE they've done their time.
And despite of it all , they still have Polanski on their minds.
I Don't get it.
I guess she won't eat my meat…
I'd still do her and then eat a nice fat ribeye !
I could give a eff what Natalie thinks…….but I don't.
Who cares what she wants?
Do eagles ask the fish about how they feel? Cats inquire as to the comfort of mice? How about spiders concern over flies?
God, you people are SO stupid…
I'll still have my rifle, and I still hunt. You wanna try and come to my house and take that? Good luck!
I don't even have to hear what your reply is, Scarlett…
WIN!
I know six UNM drama students that are better actresses…
Silly Vain and self absorbed.
How would you treat roman if he raped your doggie Natalie?
Far too much unoccupied time on this pea brains head.
*snicker*
WHY WHY WHY??? I was such fan of Natalie Portman until I read this. Why can't hollywood stars just do what they do best? I'm sure Natalie's Ivy league education makes her somehow superior to me, but since we poor underlings can't make educated decisions for ourselves I guess its a good thing we've got all these Ivy league geniuses to pontificate on all the things we're doing wrong. I'm sure its just a matter of time until they get the whole government thing right too, I mean they've only had the last 30-50 years or so. But they're smarter than me, so I'll just sit here and try not to drool on myself.
Actually, I think she would be more notable if she would stuff something in her mouth similar to a banana…at least then she would be quieter and properly distracted…
A ZZ Top song comes to mind…
OMG!
Sean Penn?
Girl is SERIOUSLY decorticate! Sean Penn?
I need a shower with a sandblaster after that, followed by a nice hot acid bath….
Yes.
Very good, most trolls take hundreds of posts to figure that out…
Anyone after Sean Penn is an extremist…and without a cerebral cortex…
You're welcome.
I could never give up eating meat. I especially like human flesh. But I would never eat Natalie Portman. Too scrawny.
"You know what I think…" implies you actually do…
Don't strain yourself…
Thanks for hanging around here and wasting YOUR time trying to convince us…
PS: I CAN RAISE MY OWN BEEF…so try to stop me now…
You're re-posting…"thinker"…
*clunk*
Some body please pass the KentuckyFried chicken…..I like to eat while I read.
then who would we laugh at if all you dipshits weren't allowed to say stupid things?
The author of this article has, what is called, Bacon Face.
Well, before she gets too ugly for Hollywood she'll go through her "get nekkid to sell hard 'R' movie tickets phase". I'm looking forward to that part…..and by the time that's over, maybe she'll have grown a brain.
you know marv, for some of us that don't bend over for the main stream media, it is uplifting to read articles about 'pop' culture that share our basic values and to discuss said articles with people of like mind. oh, and also with people who disagree.
So much for the myth of Jewish intelligence. For the sake of honesty in advertising it should be made illegal for Jews to adopt Goyishe names…………….Then Miss Natalie Hershlag would be just that.
thanks a lot. we are all now dumber for having read your post. thats not even 'university' grade psycho-bullshit. it's more like community college nonsense. next you'll tell me that i'm trying to 'compensate' for something because i drive a big truck. good luck with that, junior.
Would having performed oral sex on Sean Penn disqualify her from being considered a vegan?
Nobody respects Christianity anymore, and Islam and Judaism are not respected so much as they are FEARED.
If you disagree with Miss Hershlag-Portman you must bre an anti semite.
Did she get a degree from Harvard? She doesn't seem educated.
My daughter was Brown Med and those kids were down to Earth and logical. Brown must be a better school than Harvard.
extremists are exactly that. someone who takes an idea to unbelievable extremes. I don't think she is an extremist, however I do think she has no right to preach to anyone about anything till her own life is perfect.
She has a good head (of lettuce) on her shoulders.
What a dolt!
I understand where she's coming from. I mean, does anyone have any idea how much meat this marginally attractive, marginally talented girl had to eat to make it in Hollywood. She must have eaten meat at every casting agent and producers house in Hollywood before she got a part. Now she never has to eat meat again. Good for her.
Ok Admin. delete this one, I deserve it this time!
I s there an address that you could send her pictures of happy people eating burgers? I'm sure that would make her day.
I'm US Military educated and I would weigh that eduction much higher than than that of Harvard. Those educated at Harvard are high on book memorization without practical application. In other words they tend to be socially stupid.
That WHEAT thing is damn funny, and as of last saturday my freezer is full of bambi, oh happy happy me.
If God did not want us to eat animals he would'nt have made them out of meat.
I was with a group recently and one woman was loudly telling us how immoral we were for eating animal flesh, et al. Moments later I had her ear and I began to say that I think she should take Jesus Christ as her personal savior. She put the brakes on that and said something along the lines of that's my personal decision and I should not inflict it on other people who think differently. I then said calmly, "Well now you know what everyone in the room has been thinking about your preaching for the last 30 minutes."
"as conservatives are when it comes to what we do in our bedrooms. "
What a strawman. I've never known a single conservative who was "intrusive" about what goes on in the bedrooms of consenting adults.
Give me one example.
Because I can give you a thousand where liberals want to control EVERY SINGLE THING about my life.
I wonder what Portman's position is on killing an inconvenient fetus?
Something tells me it comes easier for her than killing a cow.
There's just too much tolerance going on. This is not a joke or just a "lifestyle ." Veganism is Suicide By Diet.
Reason No. 452 Harvard is worthless-Portman needs to take a look at pictures of people – especially kids with kwashiorkor, a protein-calorie deficiency. Cause: no animal proteins whatsoever.
College health units are actually reporting early stage cases of kwashiorkor in American college girls.
It's bad for adults, but it's WORSE for teenagers. Vit B, and protein defiicency shows up faster. because of the demands of a growing. Permanent nerve damage is one early symptom. This is totally irresponsible celebrity idiocy.
My animal torture is limited to waterboarding my cat, which I have to admit is great fun.
I wish I could take credit. I got it from a co-worker who is also definitely an omnivore.
They along with all libs just live for little gold stars. I got my share of those in high school, and I never cared too much about it. I guess if I had dropped out of high school I might crave those warm fuzzies too, but I don't. Kind of like the Oscars, and all the other vain pursuits of these little painted mannequins.
I guess you got to him before Godzilla, huh?
Maybe even from blunt force trauma.
Ah, yes, the "Pink's" girl.
"Can we go to Pink's?"
"No, just chew on this."
Hey, would you explain cognitive dissonance two or three more times? It never gets old!
"Jonathan Safran Foer" is just a pen name. His real name is Jar-Jar Binks, one of Natalie's acting colleagues.
I doubt it–he's probably about as meaty as a rotting salad.
In other words, James T. Kirk's exact opposite.
I think this is an overreaction to her article, and there's so much negativity towards an individual who is simply trying to state what she believes. She does it without being hateful and judgmental, so why such a strong reaction? No one is perfect, and if you pick apart every person, you will find contradictions. You'll find a Christian who practices bigotry. An animal rights activists who is hateful towards people. They are everywhere. Hate perpetuates hate. If you don't like it, that's totally cool–but attacking someone personally is hypocritical, too.
LOL! That MUST be it. hehehehe
What truth are you referring to?
Ahhhh!! A Boars Head,or Thumanns boiled ham and provalone cheese sub w/lettuce, tomato, and oil & vinegar, w/ Wise cheese puffs, washed down w/Stewarts root beer, now that sounds like a good lunch to me.
Winnie the Pooh!?…naw now that's too corny.
Your argumentation rests on the assumption that food choices are purely personal choices. The problem is that they are not just personal – they affect pretty much everyone around you. By deciding what to eat you are not just deciding what to put into your body (thus positively or negatively affecting your own health), you are also making important decisions with regard to environmental pollution, global warming, deforestation, human rights (yes, that's right – studies have found that the treatment of workers on common factory farms abuse their human rights on a regular basis), not to mention the lives and treatment of the animals you eat. Maybe you should read Foer's book for yourself, so that you can make an informed decision as to how to deal with these facts (rather than base your opinion on an essay by Portman commenting on the book). Foer is certainly not telling you what to do (in fact, he speaks very positively of some farmers, for example, and he gives everyone – from farmer to scientist to activist – a voice), but he is giving you the facts that you need in order to make an informed decision. Read the book, get the facts and then see whether you still think that your food choice is a purely personal one.
Why the hell would anyone want to torture an animal?
The adrenaline an cortisol released fuck up the taste of the meat.
You don't sound very rational or knowledgeable about the whole meat thing.
Perhaps you tortured small furry creatures as an angry, lonely teen with inadequacy issues and are projecting?
You sound a bit demented sir.
Natalie shows all the signs of a typical lazy student: she shows no evidence of having investigated the other side of the argument. Note how her references to contrary opinions are purely anecdotal and non-substantive. (Who care if Hitler was a vegetarian?) I saw a lot of this when I was helping teach intro politics when I was in grad school. It's particularly prevalent among "bright" students who got very good grades in high school without any effort. They tend to read one or two books (usually from the same perspective) and then think they can argue effectively for a position.
If Natalie wants to try to argue in favor of vegetarianism, she's going to actually need to engage the arguments on the other side, including the rather substantial (and, in my mind, quite convincing) arguments about human evolutionary history and our physical need to eat meat. Not to mention the fact that humane methods for raising and slaughtering animals are available to us. Right now she's arguing against a straw man she's created in her own head. It's an intellectual failing endemic in both academia and political life. People only read what they agree with, and are completely unaware of the arguments against their position. In the end, they don't even realize how ignorant they sound.
Her ignorance is what allows her to be so vainly strident.
As I recall, Polanski ate his 13 year old victim.
A little consistency please, Ms Portman?
Stupidity is a sin. Wise up, Hollywood chickadee.
just add her to the list of people that you wont support by watching their crap.
mmmmm Snickers…
*homer drools*
Does anyone really care what Natalie Portman has to say?. she is just another Hollywood nut case . ignoring these types is a much better response
I like the way you think.
Indeed, many are the kernels of corn found within the circle of poo
So true!!! I can hardly watch it because of her horrendous acting…what a waste of a good movie.
Q: When is eating veal not a sin?
A: When it walks on two legs.
It is funny, one of the liberal arguments that homosexuality is OK is that it can be observed in the nature among some animals. Well, in the nature animals eat other animals, so shut up and let me do the same!
Another performing monkey that thinks those of us with an education and something to do other than watching mindless TV/movies care what she thinks. Get a clue honey…
You can't even use the word infer correctly, so why should I read your post past the first paragraph? BTW, did you come over from REASON magazine? Because they have got some of the most poorly written journalism I've ever seen over there.
Why do we care about some non-interesting celeb fluff head jumping on famous people's bandwagons? She's just another twit who can't think for herself, logs on to hip causes in an attempt to look bold and courageous and liberal or whatever, fawning over hip talking mouths. Have you read her "essay" on this book? It's all "Foer says this, and that's so cool!" "Foer doesn't like eating animals, so we should pay attention to him because he writes really cool books that get made into movies and everything!" Get a personality, sweetheart. Maybe it will make you a better actress.
Friends and family of Taylor Mitchell are actually saying the opposite to what you're implying. Mitchell's mother has released statements saying she believes Taylor would be against them trying to find the coyotes and kill them.
ha ha ha!
I love what she said. I'm vegaratian and I am so disappointed that most people don't give a shit about animal suffering. I can understand it in poor countries but not for example in UK where I live – here it's easy to be a vegatarian. She just is a better human being. Roman Polanski – he did a mistake, a very serious one but maybe some people from movie industry met him, think he is a nice person and want to forgive him – well, he is 76, it can be like a life sentence
It is interesting that she basis her "looks" as reason for her being in Hollywood and not "talent" – this she is absolutely right about.
Really, the Israel card?
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