Hollywood Backing Perv Polanski Shouldn’t Surprise Anyone
by Pam MeisterThere has been much indignation - and rightfully so - from various parties over the fact that Hollywood is ”circling the wagons” around Roman Polanski, who was finally arrested in Switzerland after being a fugitive from justice for over 30 years for the drugging and subsequent rape and sodomy of a 13-year-old girl despite her pleas to stop – to which he pled guilty, by the way.

An excellent article, which really says it all, is by Kate Harding over at Salon.com – if you haven’t read it yet, you should. She reminds us that Roman Polanski – wait for it – raped a child. I don’t care if the victim, now 45, wants it all dropped because she’s tired of being the focal point of publicity. I don’t care it it’ll be a drain on California’s over-extended budget (how about not footing the bill for the education and medical care for illegal aliens? That’d fix things in a big hurry). I don’t care if she “looked” older than 13, or if her mother was the proverbial stage mother from hell, or if the sky was green instead of blue that day. And I certainly don’t care that Polanski is such a talented director – what WOULD we do without Hollywood to entertain us? – with a troubled past of his own. Many of us have troubled pasts. We don’t all use it as an excuse to do whatever the hell we want just because it “feels good” at the time.
It’s time for him to man up and face the music for committing a disgusting crime against a child – one that took away her innocence forever.

But not according to some big names in Hollywood, no sirree Bob. Whoopi Goldberg says it wasn’t a “rape-rape.” What the hell? When someone says “no,” it’s rape. Even if the girl had said “yes” it would still be rape because since when to we expect children of that age to know when they’re being taken advantage of by an adult? If they knew better, they would reach their majority status at 13, not 18. Kids have a lot of growing up to do during those years in between.
Patrick Goldstein talks about the boy as a fugitive who became a fugitive as an old man. No one would deny that as a survivor of the Holocaust he and his family, along with millions of other Jews and “undesirables,” were viciously prosecuted by the Nazis. And I’m sure it was painful to be an early suspect in his wife Sharon Tate’s murder (she was a victim in the grisly Manson Family crime spree). But he became a fugitive later in life due to his own actions. Had he not done what he did to that girl and then run off before serving his sentence, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. He probably would have been an even bigger hero to the Hollywood left had he gone to prison. After all, Hollywood always forgives unless you’re a conservative. And don’t tell me his “exile” has been hell on earth. He continued to earn a lavish living while making films overseas, including “The Pianist,” which earned him a 2003 Academy Award for Best Director. Boo hoo, he couldn’t come here to claim it. Cry me a river.
Debra Winger, jury member for the Zurich Film Festival, seems more worried about the impact this will have on the festival than serving justice, as the festival was getting ready to bestow a lifetime achievement upon Polanski. She said in a statement, “This fledgling festival has been unfairly exploited and whenever this happens the whole art world suffers. We hope today this latest (arrest) order will be dropped. It is based on a three-decades-old case that is dead but for minor technicalities. We stand by him and await his release and his next masterpiece.” The whole art world is suffering because Roman Polanski violated a 13-year-old girl and then ran out on his sentence? Damn those technicalities. What’s next? Should we be bemoaning the fact that Phil Spector is in jail for murdering a woman in his home because the music world is somehow suffering too?
I could go on, but you get the point. As a parent, the stench of moral equivalency is making me ill.
But I suppose we shouldn’t be surprised that so many Hollywoodites have decided that Polanski has “suffered enough” and, in fact, may not even be guilty because not only did he have a tough childhood, the girl with a pushy mom may have been a real-life Lolita. Think about it: The entertainment industry believes it is responsible for the moral compass of America and, by extension, the world – and look at much of what comes out of Tinseltown. Many of the movies, television shows and videos to which we are treated glorify sex and violence, and some of it is aimed at young people. (Ever see that show “Degrassi” on the cable network aimed at teens, The N?)

Then there are movies like “Lolita” (two versions), based on the book of the same name, where a young girl “seduces” an older man. And who could forget “American Beauty?” Kevin Spacey’s character Lester Burhham is a family man who rebels against the horrible life he lives in the suburbs and, among other things, begins lusting after his teenage daughter’s friend. It actually gets to the point where his sordid dreams about her are about to come true – but when he rips open her blouse, he realizes she is still a child and comes to his senses. Too bad Polanski didn’t.
Oh, the man who wrote “American Beauty” also wrote “Nothing is Private” (a/k/a “Towelhead”), about a 13-year-old Arab-American girl who is struggling with her sexual awakening. What is it with 13-year-old girls in Hollywood?
Smut and other “unconventional” behavior, heavily laden with moral equivalence, is Hollywood’s stock in trade. Why would they criticize someone who does in real life what they sell to their patrons every day? (Yes, you could argue that if people wouldn’t buy it, they wouldn’t sell it. Sex sells, yada yada yada. But let’s keep the kiddies out of it, shall we?) Drug abusers and alcoholics are always given second, third and fourth chances. Why not men who sexually abuse children? As long as they can keep making money for the industry and giving them reasons to hand out awards that only they care about? Awesome.





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Excellent article, agree with all points.____And really to defuse the whole "it wasn't rape-rape" or "she was asking for it" or whatever I simply say he was tried, convicted, and was awaiting sentencing. He must return to get his sentence and perhaps additional penalties for skipping out on justice (that IS against the law isn't it?) If the judge in the case looks at all mitigating factors and decides he has served his time well then fine. Of course we could all go after the judge then! But Justice must be served!
If I make a movie then do I get to drug, rape, and sodomize little girls? He needs to face up to his crime. Now a judge may take into account that he doesn't seem to ahve ever drugged and raped little girls again in the intervening years. That sort of argument may mitigate his sentence. But this outcry that he must not be punished because he is a famous film director is absurd. He needs to face his crime.
This shows how much the elite (both Hollywood and European) is out of touch with normal people. I've read many comments on many forums, and from people I know have very left of centre views, and I have yet to see one endorsing Polanski.
I wonder if we will see the rise of "Roman republicans" ie decent liberals who are so disgusted by the worldview of their own kind that they start to see the light?
I sit here, mouth agape, at the abject indecency of Hollywood. A 13 y.o. girl was RAPED!!! I had read somewhere that had this been Father Polanski that every Liberal in this country would be screaming for his head….Couldn't agree more.
Fact…she was 13
Fact…he gave her drugs, qualude, etc.
Fact…he had sex with an underage child
Adds up to rape to me…real rape, Whoopi…
I don't understand how anyone can attempt to justify Polanski's crime in any way. The fact that Hollywood women like Goldberg and Winger are so dismissive of such a heinous act towards a child is beyond disturbing. I knew Hollywood had a warped sense of morality, but I had no idea of the depths of their depravity until they defended an admitted rapist rather than his victim. Nauseating and reprehensible.
So Whoopi says it wasn't rape-rape.
Right Whoopi, I guess it wasn't sodomy-sodomy, or he didn't give her quaaludes-quaaludes either.
Hollywood – raising fecklessness to an art form!
There's evidently a backlash in Europe against America's backward sense of justice, and why after 30 years we can't just let it go. What's wrong with these people?
I watched Whoopie's comment about "rape-rape." What does that even mean? Sounds like Clinton's "depends on what the meaning of 'is' is." What in the world was that goofy woman talking about? Is there a difference?
Nice piece Pam, I totally agree. How anyone can moralize something as grotesque as a forty something man raping a thirteen year old girl, no matter the circumstances. This defies anything approaching logic. Justice is blind and this calls for justice. I wonder what Whoopie would say if it were her thirteen year old?
quote: "The whole art world is suffering because Roman Polanski violated a 13-year-old girl and then ran out on his sentence?"
Great point.
If this Was the case, then I think 'the whole art world' deserves to 'suffer'. But I don't believe the whole art world suffers because one of its perverts has been exposed all over again in media.
And since when does movie-making wash away the sin? I know politicians believe public policy stances (the Leftist ones) washes away every sin, but making flicks?
Nice to know that even Nazis have higher standards than Hollywood:
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/869153/nazi-rock...
Hollywood has been trying for years to erase all societal and cultural taboos. The one against adults and children having sex is just one of the latest. Sadly, they've been all too successful.
I would ask that supporters of sex offender Polanski read the testimony in the court record. He not only raped a 13 year old he sodomized her.
How many of the same liberals defending Polanski wanted those Duke lacrosse players jailed?
What kills me about Hollywood's defense of Polanski because, ya know, the girl was really a Lolita, is that the last time they remade Lolita they hired a 16-year-old actress to play the 14-year-old character because it was felt that it would be too creepy watching Jeremy Irons with a 14-year-old. No kidding!
It just amazes me that anyone in Hollywood could defend raping a 13-year-old.
When one liberal remarked that "this Polanski thing" had the stench of politics, I agreed that he could be right. So I suggested that he read the girl's testimony as if it were his daughter's and then tell me that 32 years have wiped the slate clean:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/polanskicove...
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Europe is a clinical model on how NOT to do many things. I just spent a month there and the list of ridiculous Euro-style idiocy I saw there was long and wrong.
Read people read …. this guy was a piece of work – Anyone have a "theView" account? I want to see if whoopi will start reading this out loud starting on page 11. Have her read this to the crowd and see how they react.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/polanskib11….
This country has gone down the tubes so bad … so so bad…. Please forward this to all your holloywood friends and have them just read it….
Polanski is obviously a scum-bag and Hollywood's out pouring of "love and understanding" is all to predictable.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/polanskib11….
That is an excellent question, I'd also ask how many of them wanted the guy Tawana Brawley accused to be jailed.
Perhaps the Polanski supporters can forge a new coalition to stop the senseless prosecutions of all child rapist fugitives! They can continue to harass all the victims and their families until no one wants justice anymore.
oh, this just in…Hollywood rapist fugitives:.actual victims….Actual victims: real perpetrators!!
<sigh> How upside down are we anymore!
Many pedophiles, serial killers do not look like charles manson at all. They are the average guy next door, with wife and kids, have work, and a likable person, that just happen to occasionally rape a child or two when no one is watching.
Doesn't woody and polanski look like frail loving grandads? Hardly the beefy, scarred, tattooed, rotten teeth child rapist you see depicted in movies. (Well, one has found a way to doing it legally with his adopted daughter, and the other frail one needed to sedate his young prey). It's all imagery you know!!! If they act and look normally/lovingly in public, talk softly, famous 'artist', then they can get away with it.
Where are the Feminazis when you need them? Seems they should be all over this pervert.
Lets face it, if a Hollywood type's 13 yr old daughter was raped by a black man from the ghetto, the lib would want the death penalty.
But, this guy is one of them, so, the rule of law goes out the window!
Not rape-rape? Hollywood wants to treat this as if it was a technicality. As if Polanski was 15 and was just fooling around with his equally willing 13 year old girlfriend and got caught by the morality squad. He was 44! He fled justice. If they want to make this an indictment on them, as well, so be it. You've made a good case.
Brucelee, the silence of the feminist on this is deafening. Guess it will take Sarah once again to come up with a choice turn of words that even liberals, even though they'll howl about it, won't be able deny their ring of truth. That Roman has lived the life of Riley since confessing his crime, has never atoned for it, and now must pay the Piper. That no one no matter how gifted, talented, smart and/or rich is above the law and cannot be excused for immoral behavior.
I see Martin Scorsese has joined in the admitted child rapist's defense. I am really disappointed. I wish his mother was still alive to slap some sense into him.
That's because you have morals. Modern liberals don't. Their "pack mentality" is stronger than any moral conviction they claim to hold.
Unless its them that get screwed over, then all that moral equivalency is out the door.
Personally I don't think its possible for sane, decent, moral people to understand the thinking of peope who are insane, indecent, and immoral. Our brains just aren't wired that way.
The only thing I can think she was thinking was something bizarre, along the lines of "can you imagine what a boost to my career if he'd raped me?"
And risk not getting invited to the "A" list cocktail parties? Not a chance.
Standing ovation!
Do yourself a favor and don't try to understand it, because it is not possible. Trying to understand it requires finding some common thread running through the idiocy from all over the political left. But the only present common denominiator on the left is their raving addiction to the lowest common denominator, masquerading as the nobel savage that can only be saved by the enlightened, open-thining leftist.
That's why it's rightly constructive (no pun intended) to always press into what is right and universally true, and building knowledge about those things, instead of trying to explain to a schizoid leftist why they are wrong. Remember the old joke about putting a crazy person in a round room and telling them to stand in the corner? That is the perfect metaphor for trying to reasonably discuss anything with a leftist. We are two different types of people separated by a common country.
Cheers.
Good to see we can now play semantics to justify crimes in Hollywood. Just use the word twice and it's all good!
"Your honor, my client did indeed murder those people, but it wasn't murder-murder…"
"Yes, he did mug that old lady, but it wasn't mugging-mugging…"
If Polanski were a 40 year old Republican, Hollywood would be calling for his head (and so would I), but since he's a liberal, they hold him up to the same standards the Hollywood elites have themselves: none.
How can ANYONE defend what this creep did? I don't care how long ago it was the gist is that he never paid for his crime. Whoopi Goldberg and her ilk are so out of touch with reality that it's pathetic.
AND just because the victim forgave him doesn't mean that he's let off the hook by the justice system.
Just goes to show that libs have ZERO morals and hollywood is the worst of the worst.
If it were Whoopi's 13-year-old girl, she would have handed him a rubber first.
Yeah NOW and every Ms. Hairypits is stunningly silent….
"but since he's a liberal, they hold him up to the same standards the Hollywood elites have themselves: none."
Spot on!
I don't accept the excuse of Polanski's "troubled past".
His troubled past should have made him ultra sensitive to the suffering of others.
Polanski needs to be locked up for many years. It's not surprising that Hollywood has come out to support this creep. Hollywood is displaying their same lack of values that lead them to support Democrats – http://is.gd/3OQiY
It would be nice if she could tie in Letterman when she does this. he needs to be raked over a lot of coals for his continued idiocy. I am pretty sure he approves of the rape of 13 yr olds as he already cited the proposed rape of a 14 yr old.
H-wood is morally destitute. Their prompt defense of Polansky shows a much seedier side to fame and celebrity. There's a perverted fascination with underage sex, and in Polansky's case they probably think they're progressive challenging some taboo subject by defending the confessed rapist. I'm starting to wonder how much we really don't know about what goes on behind the walls of their million dollar mansions, after (during?) casting sessions etc. what sleazeballs they are, how disgustingly low and bereft of morality, how exploitative, predatory do they think they can be without fear or consequence. Or are they so effin stupid to realize how wrong and shallow it is to support a child molester?
I found it ironic that Woody Allen, of all people, signed the petition asking for Polanski to get off the hook.
One thing about this whole situation though is the way the case was handled 30 years ago. Polanski plead guilty so he could get a deal, by all indications it seemed that deal was going to be broken. It's no excuse to flee the country but I thought the guy got a bad wrap from the California justice system.
Bring him back, let him get his hearing – more than likely the original plea bargain will stand he will be put on probation.
Wow. Who would have thought that when we said the Hollywood crowd had the morals of the Nazis, we would have been insulting the Nazis?
That's how delusional and grandiose the Hollywood crowd is. They believe a "fledgling" film festival is more important than the rape of a 13-year-old. Heaven forbid these people should miss a party. My loathing for these people grows each day.
When Nazis are looking at you and saying, "Whoa dude that's out of line…." You know you're going to front of the line in Hell….
In Texas that little bastard would have gotten what he deserved, And Whoopie, get that big hole below you nose sewed up.
Well, I'm very pleased with the petition they've started. Now we know the exact membership of the "Hollywood Rapist Society."
I hate seeing this labeled a conservative/liberal issue. This is a "one of us" issue, where one gets blinded by loyalty. I'm as liberal as they come and I'd like to see him spend the rest of his life in jail.
Great read, Pam. You were dead on with all your points.
We need to get a list of the advertisers for The View and send a message to them just as they did against Glenn Beck for his comments. We need to tell them that we do not support the notion that somehow adults who have sex with and sodomize children, particularly after they've drugged their prey is not "rape-rape". Rather than talk about it on blogs, which they dismiss, we need to hit them in their wallets. We need to send a message that we are no longer going to tolerate this sort of nonsense.
I'm not condoning suicide as I believe its against Gods law but looking for a loop hole may be permissable for the "show business" jerk in Denmark and "show business" jerk Polanski.
I'm not condoning suicide as I believe its against Gods law but looking for a loop hole may be permissable for the "show business" jerk in Denmark and the "show business" jerk Polanski.
Hey, I think I detect a pattern developing there!
Quite right and they can't do it alone. They are given all the help they need to accomplish their objectives
by ticket buyersI wonder what is next, marriage to animals or has that been done.
I wonder what modern liberal Hollywood would do if Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir declared himself a tortured artist? Does that make Darfur is really just a misunderstanding?
Quite right and they can't do it alone. They are given all the help they need to accomplish their objectives
by ticket buyers. I wonder what is next, marriage to animals or has that been done.
"I think a servant of the Enemy would look fairer and feel fouler." — Frodo Baggins.
Some troubled past. He has to live in Europe because they understand "thank heaven for little girls" better than Americans.
Of course Allen signed, he's very understanding of Polanski's problems.
Sodomy, in Hollywood and elsewhere is a touchy subject. Obvious reasons
particularly in the crime and punishment arena.
I might question that statement, Hollywood has defended black cop killers. Your sentiments are in the
right place but the only people they consistently allow capital punishment to apply is conservatives of any color.
I might question that statement, Hollywood has defended proven black cop killers. Your sentiments are in the
right place but the only people they consistently allow capital punishment to apply is conservatives of any color.
Uhh, no, he wasn't tried and convicted. HE PLEAD GUILTY. Big difference. He had a plea bargain with the prosecutor to get off easy, but the court doesn't have to abide by a plea bargain. He got scared that he'd have to do more than 45 days in jail so he fled the country before he was sentenced and taken into custody. Read the transcript of the plea hearing at smokinggun.
They defend Polanski because he is "one of us". Us being the worldwide aristocracy for which the rules don´t apply because they are wild and crazy and very special people. Don´t you get it? Creative people are just different. And who knows what one of "us" will do next which isn´t perfectly legal – maybe driving under the influence or throwing a teacup at a servant. They look at Roman and think: That could be me. I have my passions, too. And we don´t want the rubes to sit in judgement of us.
This is a prime example of how morally depraved Hollywood is. I can’t believe some of the comments I have heard from Polanski’s Hollywood friends. Like “oh it wasn’t rape” “he is not a sex offender” “It was rape but it wasn’t rape, rape”. Unfortunately I read the court transcripts from 1978, the victim said no several times even though she was drugged. When he realized she could get pregnant, he decided to sodomize her, not once, but twice. 95% percent of pedophiles do not change, they are sick. No wonder he moved to France, they are fine with child rape and statutory rape. My rapist moved to France too, no wonder.
A new coalition? How about:
Society for the Protection of Rapists Of Underage Teenagers (SPROUT)
It is a slippery slop to hell. Putting a child in a rated R movie and having a child act out a love scene is perversion that only the one doing it can only justify to live with self. Hollywood has always perverted the humann experience and does it for money. Most of the supporters of this man, probable have devalued their life with a perversion or two themselves, so they justify with him to feel accepted.
We should never watch a movie nor click on anything promoting the perversion of our society. Money speaks volumes to these people. If the man never made a dime on the Pianist, Mr. Roman would have never been accepted by the Elite.
Suicide seems to be the preferred coup de gra of Hollywoodites particularly method actors.
The final scene played with authenticity
Absolutely insane. Here's Hollywood arguing that 42 days of psychiatric evaluation is plenty of punishment for the premeditated, drug-assisted rape and sodomizing of a 13 year old girl… or that his glamorous life abroad with a string of almost-too-young starlets is somehow a horrible injustice perpetrated upon the man. Meanwhile, in the real world, anyone convicted of this gets several years in prison, followed by a life of being announced as a sexual predator at every attempt to start over.
Heck, a man here was just sentenced to nearly 6 years in prison (70 months) for pulling a box cutter on a guy who attacked him for cutting him off in traffic, yet the pre-planned rape of a 13 year old is only worth 42 days? The days of entertainment notables being "untouchable" is long gone, didn't anyone over there get the memo?
I don't think we should make this a liberal issue. I know many liberals, who are appalled by this. I'm on your side, and yet everytime this subject is written, it all goes back to communists and far leftists. Enough is enough.
F-you (AND Polanksi AND Whoopi) already with the Letterman "rape" bit…DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT HE SAID????
At least Huffington Post readers have lets the apologists have it between the eyes re. this topic, suggesting even they have a line that shall not be crossed…
CT Dad, your problem is that like many liberals, you live in the real world. In the real world, liberals and conservatives disagree on alot of things. But when it comes into child rape, liberals and conservatives agree.
Hollywood isn't the real world, CTDad.
*MissQuinn*
you might want to get your hands on a simple textbook that explains how conception occurs. In order to be "Knocked up" – one has to have had sexual intercourse. When a man has intercourse with a 14 yr old child IT IS RAPE. You must be one of those Dems. All dems want to pass laws to get their hands on children – either to kill them before they are born or to rape them afterwards. I will not be surprised when Letterman's membership in NAMBLA is revealed.
It's not a liberal-conservative issue. It's a right-wrong issue.
Any thinking person is going to know that the raping of a child is wrong, regardless of their political party
Yeah, that whole argument bothers me too. So if your parents and wife are killed you can become a rapist and it's ok.
No plea deal, he fled he doesn't deserve it. I think the judge may have changed his mind about the plea deal, after hearing the girls testimony which is within his right and responsibility. It was sickening what happened to her. If he is brought back he should be re-tried and sentenced using today’s prosecuting standards for child rapists. He will be put away for a long time.
This story is very similar to the Oregon Governor Neil Goldschmidt story. He raped a 14 year old girl for 2 or 3 years, but didn't get caught until years later. He called it an affair, and so did all his liberal friends. Neil also relocated to France. Neil is also Jewish (I am not implying this is a Jewish behavior). I wouldn’t be surprised if they were best buds over there in France, child prostitution is alive and well over there, and rarely prosecuted. Did you hear that all you US pedophiles please relocate to France or some other accepting country and stay there!!! We don’t want your kind. Honestly if the Swiss would just keep him in jail for awhile and he never comes back that would suit me just fine. I know Neil had other victims, Polanski probably does too.
Perfect…must be an offspring of ACORN!! Or did ACORN spring out of SPROUT? Must ponder!!
They would probably sign a petition to get him the Nobel Peace Prize…not genocide-genocide! Not mass-mass graves!
What about "no means no"? Disgraceful.
I read somewhere, that the psych eval, said that Roman was not a pedophile or something like that. Well times have changed, we know so much more about that behavior than we knew 30 years ago. He is a pedophile, he admitted to child rape.
I agree it was politics that allowed Polanski to escape justice for 3 decades
It doesn't amaze me at all. Hollywood has no morals
Actually, I read on a link Drudge has up (ABC if you can believe it!) that the prosecutor showed the judge photos of Polanski with a couple of other very young girls, at which point the judge got rather upset. The judge had already heard the testimony – what he got from the prosecutor showed Polanski's perverted patterns of behavior.
Proposed panel discussion topics for MSNBC:
RAPE and RAPE-RAPE….. What's the Difference? Is the 13 year old age limit too high?
Hosts/Moderators: Keith Olbermann,Chris Matthews and legal consultant:, Dick Wolf. creator of Law and Order.
Guest Panel: Special guest…Roman Polanski
Other panelists: Whoopi Goldberg, Woody Allen, Bill Clinton: and Jeaneane Garofolo.
Aside from Mr. Nolte, this is the only intellectual honest piece I've read on this here, because it's basically admitting up fron that the "outraged" don't give a damn about Polanski or the victim – it's ALL about ginning-up the outrage against the eeeeeeeeeeeevil liberal/gay/jewish/democrat Hollywood Conspiracy.
Only took, what? Five days?
Natasha Kinski.
I noticed her name isn't on the "free Polanski" lists…wonder why…
But is it still rape if he didn't really mean it? Well, here's our boy wonder after the crime. He really meant it:
“If I had killed somebody, it wouldn’t have had so much appeal to the press, you see? But… f—ing, you see, and the young girls. Judges want to f— young girls. Juries want to f— young girls. Everyone wants to f— young girls!” — Roman Polanski,1979
Great commentary in the Village Voice: http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archiv...
I agree that Polanski should face a new trial.
But the stupid thing about this is that the victim and her family apparently accepted a court settlement in cash. So what kind of moral highground do they now have to say that he should go to jail? None (Which is obvious from their stance regarding the matter.).
Beyond that, there is a huge double standard from our society that says that it's ok for people to act as promiscuous as they like (and even get paid for it) and then treat those people as victims when things go over someone's arbirtrary line of what is decent and acceptable behavior.
Should that 13-year-old girl have been in that situation? No.
But until Hollywood, the fashion industry, the media, and the advertising industry stop promoting this type of situation it will be repeated, over and over.
"it's ALL about ginning-up the outrage against the eeeeeeeeeeeevil liberal/gay/jewish/democrat Hollywood Conspiracy."
Aw, no, it's not a conspiracy conspiracy. It's just a coincidence that a few hundred of them got together and signed the same pro-pevert petition at the same time.
Thanks for the info. I knew an ol pro pedophile like that would have more victims. It might be another reason why Polanski doesn't want to come back to the U.S., more victims might come forward. There isn't a statute of limitations on suing someone for $,$$$,$$$.$$. I have a suspicion that the Swiss have more info on him as well. The french and polish couldn't care less.
Good for them. About time they put those brain cells to use.
[...] The Pervs of Hollywood come to support the Pedophile Polanski. I’ll have more in my column tomorrow (which will be linked in the right-hand [...]
I like that explanation Miss Quinn. Yes Hollywood is in a world of their own, and the inhabitants of their world are called the rich famous untouchables.
[...] Hollywood Backing Perv Polanski Shouldn’t Surprise Anyone October 1, 2009 | Posted by amrut miskin by Pam Meister There has been much indignation – and rightfully so – from various parties over the fact that Hollywood is ”circling the wagons” around Roman Polanski, who was finally arrested in Switzerland after being a fugitive from justice for over 30 years for the drugging and subsequent rape and sodomy of a 13-year-old girl despite her pleas to stop – to which he pled guilty, by the way.I don’t care if the victim, now 45, wants it all dropped because she’s tired of being the focal point of publicity. I don’t care it it’ll be a drain on California’s over-extended budget (how about not footing the bill for the education and medical care for illegal aliens? That’d fix things in a big hurry). I don’t care if she “looked” older than 13, or if her mother was the proverbial stage mother from hell, or if the sky was green instead of blue that day. And I certainly don’t care that Polanski is such a talented director – what WOULD we do without Hollywood to entertain us? – with a troubled past of his own. Many of us have troubled pasts. We don’t all use it as an excuse to do whatever the hell we want just because it “feels good” at the time.It’s time for him to man up and face the music for committing a disgusting crime against a child –one that took away her innocence forever.Smut and other “unconventional” behavior, heavily laden with moral equivalence, is Hollywood’s stock in trade. Why would they criticize someone who does in real life what they sell to their patrons every day? (Yes, you could argue that if people wouldn’t buy it, they wouldn’t sell it. Sex sells, yada yada yada. But let’s keep the kiddies out of it, shall we?) Drug abusers and alcoholics are always given second, third and fourth chances. Why not men who sexually abuse children? As long as they can keep making money for the industry and giving them reasons to hand out awards that only they care about? Awesome.read full article here: http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/pmeister/2009/09/30/hollywood-backing-perv-polanski-shouldnt-surpr... [...]
I wish John Wayne was around to slap the sit out of him. Too bad the only people who can afford to be outspoken in Hollywood are perverts. Perverts are ok because for the longest time Hollywood has been pushing the envelope, because sex sells.
I may sound like a prude and a puritan but 60ish years ago they couldn't get a model to wear a bikini, they had to hire a stripper. Enter the sexploitatoin flicks of the 60's. For half a century it's been commonplace to show bikinis shakin it on TV, increasingly so with cable nowadays. They talk about sex in seemingly every rap and r&b song on the radio. This then gets marketed to the mass audience. And as any person with a conscience knows, there's children in that audience. But the producers don't care. They only want profit, and they use the public airwaves.
Remember, the left wants the state to replace the family.
Haha!!! Low blow Dubya, low blow. Wish I had thought of it first. I can't say enough about how I loathe these creeps. Instead of being glad they finally caught the guy, they're indignant.
This story is very similar to the Oregon Governor Neil Goldschmidt story. He raped a 14 year old girl for 2 or 3 years, but didn't get caught until years later. He called it an affair, and so did all his "wrong" friends who happened to be liberal. Neil also relocated to France. Neil is also Jewish (I am not implying this is a Jewish behavior). I wouldn’t be surprised if they were best buds over there in France, child prostitution is alive and well over there, and rarely prosecuted. Did you hear that, all you U.S. pedophiles please relocate to France or some other accepting country and stay there!!! We don’t want your kind. Honestly if the Swiss would just keep him in jail for awhile and he never comes back that would suit me just fine. I know Neil had other victims even preteens, Polanski probably does too.
I apologize for saying liberal I should have said Democrat, oops that won't work either.
You make some good points. But when it comes to a moral slam dunk like statutory rape of a 13 year old, it isn't really about why the girl was at that home. It was why he decided it would be ok to take advantage of her. It is amazing how the glitterati will pick out all these finer points and take that side, just to be with the cool people, instead of siding with commonly held values that keep our children safe.
What would one expect form the Hollyweird Glitterati? If it's deviant, then it's OK by their low standards.
I think dear Whoopi should write a new handbook for law enforcement detailing the way to tell the difference between real rape and Pseudo-rape. It'll be a very short book. And of course the silence of the N.A.G.s (National Organization of Gals) is so pronounced by it's deafing silence on the subject. They should be dancing in the streets because Roman the Perv has finally been arrested.
Proposed panel discussion topics for MSNBC:
RAPE and RAPE-RAPE….. What's the Difference? Is the 13 year old age limit too high?
Hosts/Moderators: Keith Olbermann,Chris Matthews and legal consultant:, Dick Wolf. creator of Law and Order.
Guest Panel: Special guest…Roman Polanski
Other panelists: Whoopi Goldberg, Woody Allen, Bill Clinton: and Janeane Garofolo.
Wonder when this will be broadcast?
And of course a leopard doesn't change its spots, nor a rat its tail, or something like that. I also read somewhere recently that he was "dating" Nastassia Kinski – when she was 15 at the time. You have to be sure that there's more than that one instance – it would be good to see a creditable news source do a complete expose on this slimeball to expose the hypocrisy of the whiners that are clamoring for his release. I was also interested to see that Nastassia Kinski's name wasn't on the list of artistes and other poseurs that are doing the whining.
I am sure there are more victims out there. A person is naive and un-informed to assume that pedophiles only do it once. I hope they come forward.
[...] stand by him and await his release and his next masterpiece,” offered Debra Winger in a statement that criticized authorities for using “minor technicalities” to cause [...]
Thank you for the link to the Salon article. Paglia is the only reason I venture that way but Kate Harding slam dunked the issue.
The Frantic Pedophile is bringing other fellow pedophiles out of the woodwork. It's creepy. Just goes to show how rampant this line of thinking still exists.
WTF don't people understand about abuse. IT IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL!!!! I'm at a loss for words for the justification. Justice isn't on an hour glass. Should we just forgive the Nazi's responsible because "Hey…that was in the 40's!"
Mr. Polanski. At what age were the Nazi's allowed to regain their freedom from justice? You know they did some really fine medical research that otherwise could not have been conducted without human pigs. It really helped produce fantastic new breakthroughs not people don't like to talk about. That was then this is now. Should we really care it was your mother or niece on the other end of that knife?
The Kate Harding column at salon.com does set the matter straight. This was indeed a "rape-rape." Regardless of the age of the victim, the victim said "no" multiple times. Regardless of whether the victim had agreed to the sex, the age of the victim makes it statutory rape. But the victim said "no" AND the victim was underage, so rape-rape is the proper term. Twenty years-twenty years would be about the right sentence for it, too. If the middle-aged Polanski had at least shown remorse for his rape-rape, he might shown some leniency. But he didn't. Two years later in a self-justifying interview, all he could say was "Everybody likes to F— young girls."
[...] Goldberg, I don’t know what “rape-rape” is, but you are a evil bastard for even suggesting that Polanski didn’t do anything wrong. [...]
Comments like Winger’s and others that imply or state outright that this is somehow an attack on “the art world” or freedom of expression just underscore the underlying hypocrisy and fakery that is Hollywood’s “moral compass” and the true nature of its inconsolable narcissism. ____David Harsanyi said it well in a recent column:__——-__“Harvey Weinstein, the noted co-executive producer of “Pulp Fiction,” has been one of Polanski’s staunchest defenders. He claimed that the Polish director already had served his time (directing movies in Europe) and that we should trust his take on the situation because “Hollywood has the best moral compass, because it has compassion.”
Imagine, if you can, the impenetrability of this man's ironclad bubble. Weinstein's success is predicated on dispensing tales from the darkest, most twisted corners of the imagination. Don't get me wrong; for this, I am also grateful. Some of Weinstein's ethically magisterial works, for instance, have included "Things To Do in Denver When You're Dead" (tag line: "They can die quickly. They can die slowly. But they must die!") and "Death Proof" (plot: "Two separate sets of voluptuous women are stalked at different times by a scarred stuntman who uses his 'death proof' cars to execute his murderous plans"). Now, I ask you, if Weinstein possessed even a scintilla of decency, would he have subjected this nation to "The Nanny Diaries"?
What really offends Holywood’s child rape apologists is the notion that they are “artists” (quotes emphasized) whose activity should be not only be above reproach, but whose person should be above the law because, well of course art is of the artist, and since art is more important than anything else, therefore the artist is more important than anyone else. It is through their generosity of spirit that is above all else that they provide us not only with their artistic master crafts, but with their “compassion” and the others outcomes of their superior “moral compass” that we should simply accept with thanks and adoration and understand that the rules or mortals do not apply to the gods of art.
How — they ask themselves — in the name of Zeus, could one of the gods be plucked off of Olympus during yet another of the 5-10 times per year orgies of mutual god admiration that their fragile yet monstrously outsized egos require like the rest of us need food and shelter, and bring a god back down to earth, where a pre-meditated and heinously executed rape against a child is a crime against the law and where destroying a child’s innocence and life to momentarily satisfy a perversion is an inhuman act and where fleeing rather than facing up to ones mistakes is a sign of unmanly cowardice.
HOW DARE these mere mortals offend the gods by asking them to live by the rules of human society? HOW DARE they bother us with such annoyances that may be caused as we the gods take what we want from those mortals? HOW DARE they bother us with the details of the petty little lives we break apart with our insatiable perversions – they should be thankful for having had the chance to be in our graces at all, to have experienced our “art”! AND HOW DARE they do so at the very moment that we the gods are celebrating our godliness amongst ourselves and congratulating each other for the enormous generosity and genius of our contributions of “art” that bring meaning to their otherwise meaningless lives? Where would these mere mortals be without Urban Cowboy, Rosemary’s Baby and Death Proof – our art is all they have! HOW DARE THEY INTERFERE WITH THE GODS!
It is unfathomable to them…
You undermine your whole argument when you call human beings "aliens." No human being is an "alien." Funny, how nobody complains about the billions their labor brings in for the state, especially in agriculture. That industry makes more money than either Hollywood or Silicon Valley. That's why our food is so inexpensive. Meanwhile many farm workers die in the fields, or go hungry themselves.
As for Polanski, he should be in jail, and his defenders boycotted.
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