The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion?
by Patrick CourrielcheI recently wrote a critique of the art community’s lack of dissent in the face of many controversial decisions made by the current administration. Entitled “The Artist Formerly Known as Dissident,” one of the key points argued in the article was the potential danger associated with the use of the art community as a tool of the state. Little did I know how quickly this concern would be elevated to an outright probability.
Sometime between when I finished the critique and when it went live online, I was invited by the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) to take part in a conference call that invited a group of rising artist and art community luminaries “to help lay a new foundation for growth, focusing on core areas of the recovery agenda – health care, energy and environment, safety and security, education, community renewal.”
Now admittedly, I’m a skeptic of BIG government. In my view, power tends to overreach whenever given the opportunity. It’s a law of human nature that has very few exceptions. That said, it felt to me that by providing issues as a cynosure for inspiration to a handpicked arts group – a group that played a key role in the President’s election as mentioned throughout the conference call – the National Endowment for the Arts was steering the art community toward creating art on the very issues that are currently under contentious national debate; those being health care reform and cap-and-trade legislation. Could the National Endowment for the Arts be looking to the art community to create an environment amenable to the administration’s positions?
Before arguing why I see this as a gross overreach of the National Endowment for the Arts and its mission, a brief background on the conference call is needed.
On Thursday August 6th, I was invited by the National Endowment for the Arts to attend a conference call scheduled for Monday August 10th hosted by the NEA, the White House Office of Public Engagement, and United We Serve. The call would include “a group of artists, producers, promoters, organizers, influencers, marketers, taste-makers, leaders or just plain cool people to join together and work together to promote a more civically engaged America and celebrate how the arts can be used for a positive change!”
I learned after the conference call that there were approximately 75 people participating, including many well respected street-artists, filmmakers, art galleries, music venues, musicians and music producers, writers, poets, actors, independent media outlets, marketers, and various other professionals from the creative community. I suppose I was invited because of my work in creating arts initiatives, but being a former employer of the NEA’s Director of Communications was probably a factor as well.
Backed by the full weight of President Barack Obama’s call to service and the institutional weight of the NEA, the conference call was billed as an opportunity for those in the art community to inspire service in four key categories, and at the top of the list were “health care” and “energy and environment.” The service was to be attached to the President’s United We Serve campaign, a nationwide federal initiative to make service a way of life for all Americans.
It sounded, how should I phrase it…unusual, that the NEA would invite the art community to a meeting to discuss issues currently under vehement national debate. I decided to call in, and what I heard concerned me.
The people running the conference call and rallying the group to get active on these issues were Yosi Sergant, the Director of Communications for the National Endowment for the Arts; Buffy Wicks, Deputy Director of the White House Office of Public Engagement; Nell Abernathy, Director of Outreach for United We Serve; Thomas Bates, Vice President of Civic Engagement for Rock the Vote; and Michael Skolnik, Political Director for Russell Simmons.
We were encouraged to bring the same sense of enthusiasm to these “focus areas” as we had brought to Obama’s presidential campaign, and we were encouraged to create art and art initiatives that brought awareness to these issues. Throughout the conversation, we were reminded of our ability as artists and art professionals to “shape the lives” of those around us. The now famous Obama “Hope” poster, created by artist Shepard Fairey and promoted by many of those on the phone call, and will.i.am’s “Yes We Can” song and music video were presented as shining examples of our group’s clear role in the election.
Obama has a strong arts agenda, we were told, and has been very supportive of both using and supporting the arts in creative ways to talk about the issues facing the country. We were “selected for a reason,” they told us. We had played a key role in the election and now Obama was putting out the call of service to help create change. We knew “how to make a stink,” and were encouraged to do so.
Throughout the conversation my inner dialogue was firing away questions so fast that the NRA would’ve been envious. Is this truly the role of the NEA? Is building a message distribution network, for matters other than increasing access to the arts and arts education, the role of the National Endowment for the Arts? Is providing the art community issues to address, especially those that are currently being vehemently debated nationally, a legitimate role for the NEA? I found it highly unlikely that this was in their original charter, so I checked.
The NEA published a book entitled National Endowment for the Arts: A History 1965-2008 early this year. Combing through the 40+ year history of the NEA, I could not find a single instance of the agency creating or supporting a national initiative that encouraged the art community to address current issues under contentious debate.
The NEA was created by the Congress of the United States and President Lyndon B. Johnson in 1965 as “a public agency dedicated to supporting excellence in the arts, both new and established; bringing the arts to all Americans; and providing leadership in arts education.” The issue of health care is curiously absent from this description on their website.
So I’d like to start a little debate and ask you, the reader, the same question. Do you think it is the place of the NEA to encourage the art community to address issues currently under legislative consideration?
And before answering, let me give you my take.
The NEA is the nation’s largest annual funder of the arts. That is right, the largest funder of the arts in the nation – a fact that I’m sure was not lost on those that were on the call, including myself. One of the NEA’s major functions is providing grants to artists and arts organizations. The NEA has also historically shown the ability to attract “matching funds” for the art projects and foundations that they select. So we have the nation’s largest arts funder, which is a federal agency staffed by the administration, with those that they potentially fund together on a conference call discussing taking action on issues under vigorous national debate. Does there appear to be any potential for conflict here?
Discussed throughout the conference call was a hope that this group would be one that would carry on past the United We Serve campaign to support the President’s initiatives and those issues for which the group was passionate. The making of a machine appeared to be in its infancy, initiated by the NEA, to corral artists to address specific issues. This function was not the original intention for creating the National Endowment for the Arts.
A machine that the NEA helped to create could potentially be wielded by the state to push policy. Through providing guidelines to the art community on what topics to discuss and providing them a step-by-step instruction to apply their art form to these issues, the “nation’s largest annual funder of the arts” is attempting to direct imagery, songs, films, and literature that could create the illusion of a national consensus. This is what Noam Chomsky calls “manufacturing consent.”
Now, if you are for the issues being pursued by the current administration, you may be inclined to think favorably of what I am labeling “overreach.” What a powerful weapon to fight those that are opposed to our ideas, you may think. For those in this camp I ask you this – will you feel the same when the opposition has access to the same machine? If history is any indication, the pendulum swings both ways. Is persuasion what the originators envisioned when they brought the legislation that created the NEA to the floor of Congress?
As a member of the art community for the past 14 years, I raise these questions only after careful consideration. Many of those on the call are from my hometown. My position here should not be construed as a personal attack on the call participants. Many of those on the call worked tirelessly on the Obama campaign and are proud of their victory. They look at this as an opportunity to be involved directly with the White House, which is an exciting prospect to many in the art world whose experience with the government may be limited to paying taxes and voting.
But the art community must put this excitement aside and ask itself about the proper role of government agencies created to promote the arts. And if put in the wrong hands, could a message machine built by the NEA be used in a nefarious manner not currently foreseeable?
In an attempt to recapture the excitement and enthusiasm of the campaign the organizers of this conference call have entered murky waters, a strait that the NEA cannot afford to swim. Previously shackled with the controversy over the Serrano and Mapplethorpe images of 1989 that escalated to a debate over its very existence, the NEA needs to stay far away from any questions of impropriety.
There is no shortage of problems within the art community that the NEA could tackle. Museums across the country have been hit hard by the financial crisis. Their trusts and portfolios have seen massive declines. Donations, attendance, and memberships are down. Many have had to reduce exhibition hours due to staffing and budget reductions. And countless art galleries, the lifeblood and revenue stream for many artists, have closed or are on the brink of closure. Rallying the art community around these issues seems a more appropriate use of its resources.
I’m not a “right-wing nut job.” It just goes against my core beliefs to sit quietly while the art community is used by the NEA and the administration to push an agenda other than the one for which it was created. It is not within the National Endowment for the Arts’ original charter to initiate, organize, and tap into the art community to help bring awareness to health care, or energy & environmental issues for that matter; and especially not at a time when it is being vehemently debated. Artists shouldn’t be used as tools of the state to help create a climate amenable to their positions, which is what appears to be happening in this instance. If the art community wants to tackle those issues on its own then fine. But tackling them shouldn’t come as an encouragement from the NEA to those they potentially fund at this coincidental time.
And if you think that my fear regarding the arts becoming a tool of the state is still unfounded, I leave you with a few statements made by the NEA to the art community participants on the conference call. “This is just the beginning. This is the first telephone call of a brand new conversation. We are just now learning how to really bring this community together to speak with the government. What that looks like legally?…bare with us as we learn the language so that we can speak to each other safely… “
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Those are beautiful portraits of Obama.
I think I may barf now.
A resounding "NO!"
Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
how is hell work out for you? I see you have internet access, I hope it is dial-up.
This is both an enlightening and disturbing post, Patrick. Lili Riefenstahl came to mind. I also noticed you added the qualifier "I'm not a right wing nut job" like a pre-emptive strike. You must know by now, Patrick, that just by taking the position you did, you are by default a "right wing nut job" to the Left, and NEA will despise you for exposing them.
Like you didn't already know, huh, you rightie wack job? Never mind that government policy and art should never mix. You pointed out the truth of the matter, and that's unforgivable to Left. On the bright side, you have chosen sanity, yet another unforgivable offense to the Left. Welcome to the ranks of The Hated and the Accursed
This strikes me a idealogical WPA projects. It it doubtful that the art that results will be about American optimism, but about Democrat and Obama optimism.
The iconography of the leader is a scary thing for most Americans. True believers aside, the government has no business funding this stuff.
I think right-leaning artists should begin applying for NEA grants claiming they wish to create a series of works which will throw light onto the true spirit and character of our new president… all couched in glowing terms, of course.
They should then use the grant money to produce anti-Obama agitprop, bold, frightening, hollow-eyed images of a narcissistic cult leader.
Huh… who would have thunk… the federal government using the arts and it's foundation as a way to create propoganda… Hmmm…. sooner or later resistance will be futile….
This is pretty scary but not surprising in this day and age. And I wonder if you could ever reason with these people that this is completely inappropriate. I've decided for sanity's sake that you just can't reason with unreasonable people. Logic and common sense are not high on their list of attributes. My husband's grandfather was a folk potter. He received a NEA award years ago. A very humble & practical man (who didn't see himself as an artist), said he really didn't want the award – until they told him it included a cash award. He "weren't no dummy" as they'd say in his neck of the woods. It is shameful to see now that the NEA is just promoting propoganda now.
“This is just the beginning. This is the first telephone call of a brand new conversation. We are just now learning how to really bring this community together to speak with the government. What that looks like legally?…bare with us as we learn the language so that we can speak to each other safely… “
is this robot-talk?! wait. obama-bot talk. there it is….
I know this is not completely true, but isn't this just making it official that artists really are a liberal propaganda machine?
Okay. We've got the big posters all over the place. Ramping up for the domestic army. Starting to run businesses. Healthcare next. Environmental purity? Check. Now if we can just elimintate dissent. How about a TV show or a new law regulating radio stations? Hmmm… What color shirts–Red, white and blue is so jingoistic. Orange and purple? Ooh. Brown.
I was never under the impression that the NEA was a politically neutral organization prior to the advent of the Obama adminsitration, so this doesn't seem that surprising. The fact that they are more openly voicing their agenda after the great leap left that this country took in Nov. '08 seems almost expected.
The lesson for libertarian-leaning people is that when we regain power, instiututional parasites such as the NEA, the ACLU, ACORN et al must all be defunded and decertified. Let liberals fund whatever private organizations they prefer with their own monies, but these elitists need off the government teat.
The more politically active an artist is, the less of an artist they are.
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Took me a couple of seconds, but that is a good one!
sounds good to me. It's the same way dems get into power.
The true conservative critique of "public funding for the arts" has always been based on the proposition that the iea is an absurdity. A true "artist" is an individual with a vision that he/she seeks to make real. Ideally there should be nothing between that vision and the realization. However when public funding is involved the initial purpose of the artist is not to create but rather to obtain a government grant. It becomes part of a bureaucratic process that everyone complains about but everyone accepts including the artists themselves. I know there are supposed to be safeguards to protect the integrity of the work but, as a former bureaucrat and grant-writer, I know that these can be easily circumvented by creative administrators. I suppose my question is why artists themselves aren't opposed to the NEA as an institution that is inimical to their own interests and creativity?.
White with the Obama wavy flag circle logo on the front.
and so begins the Official Ministry for Government Propaganda.
Well now isn’t that special. Like was stated up-thread all public money for the NEA, ACORN, PBS, NPR, etc. needs to be cut off. If these “artist” can produce something that make it in the Free Market have at it, if not get a job.
I appreciate your concern here Patrick, but if these artists are too naive or too in awe of "The Great One" to see that they are being used as simple tools of the state then who cares. Their blind devotion will bring about their own demise. As people tire of their politically driven artistic messages they will certainly lose the eye of the public, but more importantly to them, the eye of their colleagues. As the political climate in this country changes as you correctly stated it would in your article, so too will their opinions and thus representations of “The Great One”. All of a sudden the funding that was so easily attainable will dry up leaving these artists with no means of support or public venue in which to speak.
How many aggrandizing portraits of Obama can exist before things start to eerily resemble the public displays of state sponsored phony adulation for "Dear Leader" like we see in North Korea, old Iraq, China, Venezuela, and anywhere else tyranny has reigned over it's people? Eventually the public will recognize this and the artists will lose all credibility. The cynic in me wants to see this unabashed adoration for this man increased to ever-higher levels even as he further squanders America's wealth, power, and prestige throughout the world.
Being duped into your own self-destruction is a beautiful display of life imitating art, don't you think?
and now, are officially and openly on the government payroll…
This also begs the question if, when Bush was still in office, the NEA got together artists to create art in support of the Iraq war, or private health accounts, or privatizing individual Social Security accounts, that there would be such an outcry from the left that construction companies would have no shortage of bricks.
Also, I wonder if they'd fund an artist who created an Obama portrait covered in elephant dung.
What's being described in this article is so very, very wrong.
Is any organization politically neutral? I know organizations can promote they are non-partisan, or what ever cute verbage they can come up with. But its basest form, politics occurs when ever two or more people disagree, and have to come up with some way to decide what to do. National politics is just that contention at the national level.
And since people will always disagree, the question is who can convince the most people that their suggestion is the best option. There's a reason even garden clubs have bylaws and elected positions.
Here's some more art for you…
Why not? I can think of several far more egregious abuses of government funding that somehow slipped past them.
This sounds dangerously cultish. When government employees begin to talk like Scientologists, the time has come to be afraid.
"It is not within the National Endowment for the Arts’ original charter to initiate, organize, and tap into the art community to help bring awareness to health care, or energy & environmental issues…" Does anyone think this actually matters to this administration? Heck, they've already shown a complete lack of regard for actual law. Why should a little ol' charter for the NEA stand in their way?
There was a reason Obama's campaign posters so resembled the old Communist propaganda posters. Expect to see a lot more of it, comrades.
No, not white. Jeremiah Wright and Skip Gates would complain.
So, in a nutshell, Team Obama plans on using the NEA for propaganda. And like the tools they are, they will probably march along to Axelrod's and Rahmbo's orders.
Defund the NEA now. Artists have to make their own way like anybody else.
BTW – If you have ever been confounded by the permutations of the art world try to find a copy of Tom Wolfe's masterly short book "The Painted Word" (1975). It's a little dated now but still a side-splittingly hilarious skewering of some of the more outrageous practices of the art world or "Cultureburg." I've always found it a comfort when I see some amazingly awful piece of "public art" being erected in a city center "made posible by the support of the National Endowment for the Arts." You'll never look at this stuff the same way after you've read it.
Oh right, sorry, since I oppose the President's socialism, I'm a racist. So it slipped my mind. In order to not be a racist, I need to spend more time identifying my racist tendencies.
How about rainbow? No wait. Then I'm a homophobe. Man, this is harder than it looks.
How much endowment money do you think I could get for the "Piss Obama"? I'd like to be an artist too.
I've already got the beer and the mason jar…
BIG FRAKIN BOWL OF LIB INSULT! Anyone recall German propaganda machine in the 1930s will see immediately what kind of absolutely arrogant and venal idea this is. Just the mere thought of the application to sponsor only ONE side of the partisan debate is not just egregious but horrifying. In the 21st century we ought to have learned our lesson — or at least, the administration ought to consider the slippery slope upon which they now walk. How DARE they!??
Artists will create regardless and this direct assault–and I choose the word carefully–is more than wrong, more than noxious: Insulting to any artist and to any audience! This maligns the very virtue of bi-partisan propoganda. It is hubris. It will beget nemesis. And if they try to censor the OTHER SIDES of the debate?
Hell hath no fury.
I think the biggest problem is defining ones self as an artist. I think there can be art. I think there can also be artist, but that title will be reserved for dead artist after thier work has stood the test of time. Anyone who describes ones self as an artist is doing so for reasons of ego alone. There can be painters, writers etc. but I think the term artist should NEVER be self imposed. If you are a painter, actor, poet etc label yourself as that, it is much more honest. This is not meant as an insult in any way, it is just my own humble opinion. I play several musical instruments(badly) but have never self described myself as a musician or artist.
Because the NEA will pay them thousands of dollars to indulge in their most solipsistic and juvenile urges.
I thought that was MSNBC's official title.
First you support and encourage the artists.
Then you cajole and prod them.
Then you bind them and twist their arms.
And if they still won't cooperate you censure and ban them.
There were a lot of puzzled looks on artists' faces on the march to the gulags.
Can we have some Entartete Kunst, please? Anyone?
Herr Goebbels is alive and well.
The art community (useful idiots) is now being used as a tool by this administration.
Art community can suck it.
Buffy Wicks, Deputy Director of the White House Office of Public Engagement;
She sure gets around in this administration check out her bio sometime. There is a story to be told.
Yes, just lovely. And so inspiring. I would change the wording slightly, though. Instead of 'Hope' the titles should say 'Dope'.
Saddam my friend, those are indeed glorious portraits of dear leader Obama. I wonder if he uses the same artist as Kim Jung Il?
Rope-A-Dope don't give me Hope. Negative Change don't give me spare change. Lovely, I think most of the Obama 'art' is now being sold on the Home Shopping Channel. Very emotionally iconic and faux. Just like most of the products you see on TV shopping channels. So now they need a labeling enhancement "As Seen On TV" to be just perfect. I hear NBC also offers this 'art' in their online store. Billy Mays would be proud.
Patrick thank you for sharing this here. It has become creepily apparent that this Administration is sociopathic and will use whatever and whoever is needed on the march to destroying America. Yah the hair on my arm is standing up!! No I don't think the NEA should be engaging in this, but I believe the group has long been a mouthpiece for the liberal agenda.
Wow, did I get a massive blast of deja vu as I was reading this blog! The apparent philosophy of using artists as tools of the State, and the pictures used to illustrate the blog really took me back to when I spent a college semester in Moscow in the '80s (back when it was the capital of the Soviet Union, and seemed like it always would be). I think it would be *very* interesting to have some side-by-side juxtaposing of the Obama images with some of the Soviet era art – pictures being worth a thousand words, and all that. But in any case, the similarity is pretty creepy.
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Creepy crawly classic totalitarianist tactics. Those who do not study history, and all that . . .
You took the words right out of my mouth, John. Patrick, regardless of your actual political positions, you've stepped over the line and questioned the administration of The One, so the facts of the discussion no longer matter. You are now a racist, right-wing nutjob. All that remains is for your new label to be declared official by the media.
I don't think I necessarily agree with this statement, but I would argue that the more politically active an artist is, the less of an artist they *need to be*. I've seen some truly awful artists, people significantly lacking in skill, but because their artistic statements resonate with the correct crowd, they are celebrated.
NEA: END. IT. NOW.
Patrick, I really appreciate this thoughtful article. As an art school graduate myself, the question of the NEA's role in our society and with regards to our government is a matter which is of interest to me. I appreciate the role of an entity within the government that sponsors the creation of high quality artwork. Unfortunately, the sort of work I would imagine enhancing American citizens' lives is not generally the sort of work which seems to earn the NEA's attention.
I make no bones about the fact that I am aesthetically and philosophically opposed to a great deal of Modern and Postmodern Art, partly because it tends to specifically and exclusively cater to those with an art education, the only people equipped or inclined to appreciate the work in any sense; I am far more a fan of the Art Nouveau ethic, which sought to enrich the common person's daily life with things of beauty. These are generalizations, of course, and I admit to my own biases in regards to abstract work, which many people likely do not share (and have, and will debate with me). I would prefer to see the NEA funding projects which would elevate our gaze to the nobler aspects of humanity, celebrate the beauty inherent within Creation, and beautify our public buildings, parks, and other structures. While the definition of "beauty" is undeniably somewhat subjective, I think it can successfully be argued that many public art structures created under the auspices of the NEA are an eyesore rather than a benefice.
In any case, I agree with your assessment. I believe that the role of the NEA should be cultural, with an eye toward supporting art education and the like, but not political. Judging from the language you quoted in that proposal, it sounds highly doubtful that they would have supported any artwork which was critical of the current administration's position on any of these debated topics. I am wholeheartedly in favor of political artwork, but when the government is the one making the commissions and writing the checks, any pretense toward "supporting the arts" is simply a cover story for a propaganda arm of the government.
As you rightly point out, even if I were a staunch supporter of President Obama and his policies, I would have to worry about how such an organization would be used by the next Administration, or the one after that. I personally believe that one of the Left's problems is a refusal to examine the long view of things (or, at the least, to take an overly optimistic view of human nature), so I worry that even this point of reason would be disregarded in the enthusiasm of the moment. But I hope that many more on the other side of the political fence (which, regrettably, the vast majority of my fellow artists seem to inhabit) will come to the same conclusions that you have.
This just gives me the creeps. Most of the artistic community are liberals and they are smitten with BO. What are the chances of critical thinking in that love affair? BO has broken many promises to them and they still think he is the ONE. They will do anything for him. Yuck! The best idea has already been stated by Squires….infiltration by the few, but proud conservative artists.
Sorry. That's LENI Riefenstal. For some reason, I keep getting her mixed up with Lilly von Shtupp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-pmpgrYQgs
Great article, Patrick.
Besides the charter of the NEA missing the "promotion of healthcare", how about the absence in the US Constitution of Congress' ability to create and fund the NEA to begin with?
kadaka, many here at Big Hollywood are artists. The author of this piece is as well. But I see a difference between artists and tools. Those guys are tools. We are artists. Ya got all that now
Satan has me riding down a waterslide with broken glass on it into a lake of fire over and over again. Not quite the paradise as advertised by my muslim brothers. By the way, Satan has a T3 connection.
Not only has the hair on my arms stood up, my stomach just turned over. God, what a Frankenstein has been created. Sounds like a subject for a painting!
The great Russian classical dancers, (including the "Big Three", Baryshnikov, Makarova, and Nureyev) as well as the impresario Diaghelev, and the founder of the NYC Ballet, Balanchine, got themselves out of Bolshivik and Soviet Russia precisely because of the artistic straight-jackets the politburo imposed on the entire cultural community. Imagine being the Artistic Director of the Bolshoi Ballet, the largest dance company in pre-glasnost times, (275 dancers) , and being told to compose a ballet celebrating the fact that the government has built and opened up a power plant on the Angara River! Whoa! What are we going to do over here? Make a ballet celebrating the installation and operation of a new set of wind turbines off the Florida Coast?! Gee whiz! Sign me up to make some fashionable hemp and bamboo tutus while your at it…Good Lord have mercy!
P.S, Thanks for a clear and unvarnished article, Patrick. You are speaking Truth to power.
It amazes me that the people most likely to accuse the political right of conspiracy and propaganda are the exact ones most likely to enthusiastically and unabashedly participate in their own version of it.
I am a sculptor of marble and there are very few of us left to pass on what we know. I work for myself and for my own reasons and while the temptation of 'free" health-care seems nice, I'm no fool. None of the artists I know have health care unless they work as instructors in a university or some other institution or are covered by a spouse and their job, they just don't make that much money by and large. I will add that the NEA doesn't fund any old "I'm an artist", they fund brand name artists who don't really need it anyway and a handful of the up and coming in-crowd and are thus considered irrelevant by most of us. The NEA is not just a traditional visual arts entity either, they fund scribblers, dancers, singers and actors far more than sculptors and I would argue that none of that has anything to do with Art. I am a sculptor of marble and I have no problem whatsoever spending months or years completing a piece because I am not making it for the NEA or anyone else,.. Ever..
Here's my take on the HOposter
Might I recommend to NEA and United We Stand et al the famed liberal artist and major Dennisk Kucinich fan, Faris Alkhateeb, to contribute to the ObamaMania cause?
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/0...
The Government should not be funding art or media, NPR and PBS included.
As an artist and someone who received an art education from a major university, I can tell you that the most vocal people in the art world are simply dishonest. The phrase "self delusion" wouldn't be accurate, since most of these people know that they're lying. They are lying about promoting "progress", challenging the status quo, and the pursuit of heightened understanding. I have only found a handful of people out of the art world who are genuine and who actually value the things that I mentioned above.
Why the lie? They need purpose in their lives, and to be a part of something. They are not truth-seekers; they are joiners. The largest influencer of this need is the 1960's counter culture and the professors produced from that era. By romanticizing the height of counterculture, the art world has embraced an unstable, counter-intuitive dogma, and their reasons for doing so can be reduced down to the fact that artists have very needy egos.
Hmmm……………..another takeover. "Art was considered to be one of the most important elements to strengthening the Third Reich and purifying the nation. Political aims and artistic expression became one. The task of art in the Third Reich was to shape the population's attitudes by carrying political messages with stereotyped concepts and art form. "
Well said!
So I guess the NEA wont be giving out grants to performance artists burning an Obama/Fairey poster on video while the old Soviet anthem plays in the background?
You'll have to give it another name, or at least not mention the title you have in mind, on the application.
Hmmm… "OuiOui Obama!"
I don't know if I'd worry too much about a Republican administration using the NEA for nefarious conservative causes because Republicans haven't a clue as to how culture drives politics. Democrats understand this dynamic because the cultural influence professions are what they used to get themselves the keys to the kingdom. Republicans think that if you write fat checks to Heritage Foundation that great art, great films, great novels and serious journalism will fall to the earth like manna from heaven. Republicans would be scratching their heads, wondering why the NEA isn't making grants to AEI, Manhattan Institute or CATO, never realizing that some people don't see a treatise discussing Calvin Coolidge's domestic policies as art (though Manhattan produces a mighty fine journal with excellent contributions on art, not the least of which comes from Andrew Klavan).
What Republicans might do is raise a fuss about the NEA's existence. They would properly raise some well reasoned arguments, supported by plenty of historical research that the NEA is beyond the Constitution's scope. Then they would be beat into submission by all the folks on the call Patrick wonderfully described, and they would crawl back into their legislative offices, go back to the AEI, Heritage & CATO conferences and keep the taxpayer's dollars flowing into art programs that depicted America's existence as a blight on the world.
Now if folks saw a concerted effort by those who identify with the Republican banner actually engaging the cultural influence professions, i.e., arts, entertainment, education and journalism then the threat of Republican control of a propagandist NEA would have some teeth. Otherwise, it is just a silly joke and the Left knows it.
The very first time I saw the HOPE poster, my aesthetic gut reaction was "fascist".
This article does absolutely nothing to ameliorate that reaction.
There is no justification for the existence of the NEA. None. And this proves only what I knew twenty years ago..
You must be tired.
[...] Big Hollywood » Blog Archive » The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion? bighollywood.breitbart.com/pcourrielche/2009/08/25/the-national-endowment-for-the-art-of-persuasion-patrick-courrielche – view page – cached I recently wrote a critique of the art community’s lack of dissent in the face of many controversial decisions made by the current administration. — From the page [...]
[...] community consultant” Patrick Courrielche, who supports those Obama Joker posters, the NEA organized a recent conference call to assemble an army of artists who will maybe possibly (hopefully?) use their work to inspire service in key social arenas, such as health [...]
[...] community consultant” Patrick Courrielche, who supports those Obama Joker posters, the NEA organized a recent conference call to assemble an army of artists who will maybe possibly (hopefully?) use their work to inspire service in key social arenas, such as health [...]
John, I agree, but…. The further away you get from "practical art" like pottery, blacksmithing, and quilt making, the more solidly you are in areas where making the appropriate liberal noises is the price of admission into the "honored presence of your fellow artists." Notice how actors and actresses with at least some success may "come out" as conservative, but just try being known as one before you even get your first job. Background fill for a commercial, maybe, provided you look good and won't be saying anything.
Oh, you say you're a conservative painter? Are you bonded and insured? Oh nevermind, our gallery looks fine, but you can leave your business card if we need some work done.
Instead of merely having an NEA grant and/or some other form of government assistance.
All Hail Obama!
All Hail the State!
First let me say I am an artist. Not just that, but a political artist. I DO NOT support the NEA. If you can't sell your work in the free market, you need to get a paying job. Period., There is no justification in the Constitution for the government to fund the arts. NONE.
I am furious. The level of arrogance and deviance being displayed by this administration and its followers is unacceptable. There is only one reason this kind of project would be sponsored by the government: State Propaganda. Like the Nazis, and the Communists, and every other tyrannical state with a creative class under its control.This is why the government should not be funding the arts. EVER.
Everyone here should be absolutely furious. Write your Congressmen, call your talk radio shows, write your editors, email this to everyone you know. Then go out, find Conservative artists who are trying to fight this administration through the appropriate means, and support their work. We are on the verge of loosing everything we have as Americans because there is no Conservative voice in the arts. It's not because there's no one out there producing the work. It's because Conservatives, particularly those with money and influence, are doing nothing to promote the artists who share their views.
I know many of you are hesitant to get your hands dirty by promoting propaganda, or satire. You need to get over it. NOW. This, like all things politically Conservative is why we are loosing the future of our country. We stand around complaining and whining; yet do nothing. Stop worrying about their 'feelings' or your image. The Progressives behind this little stunt have no respect for you, your ideas or your life. You could cater to their every whim, and the Left would still revile and denigrate you.
Either stop complaining and do something to fight this, or step aside for those of us who will. I have spent the last 7 years of my life building a Conservative portfolio of political paintings. I have spent the last year working every spare hour to promote that work. I write letters and send emails to no avail; because Conservatives don't care about art. Now, yet again, we are left standing on the sidelines because the Left does not hold the same principles. You have freedom of speech too. Use it for something besides complaining.
frances@machinepolitick.com http://www.machinepolitick.com Liberatchik.com (If you are a Conservative artist, get in touch with me so we can fight this. I have already laid much of the groundwork to build a Conservative art Community. If Conservatives won't help us fund our efforts, perhaps we can come up with the means ourselves. If the government is funding art to promote itself, we're not far away from the government censoring work it finds 'objectionable'.)
I'm against most government funding for the arts. While it sounds good in theory, besides the obvious mishandling of funds that you mention, it's only the usual suspects that get the funding in the first place. An "artistic" in-crowd is the result and it should be anethema to any true artist. Bob Dylan didn't need no government assistance!
William F. Buckley once made a point to the effect that "Any organization that is not openly conservative in nature will be taken over by liberals". Organizations have bylaws and elected positions to steer them in the direction toward achieving their mission. Why should the mission of every organization be hijacked to advance the political beliefs of the elites running them? A garden club needn't have a political agenda, it's mission should be about gardening.
Isn't the head of the NEA a Republican?
AS an artist who wishes many of her artist friends were lucky enough to afford health insurance, I believe said artists can make the effort- without the aid of the government- to create their own dialogues. A friend of mine was bitten by a wild animal a couple months ago, and had to pay $2000 out of pocket to pay for the battery of rabies and other shots. If she had health insurance, it would have been far less. I would think that health care for people who typically couldn't afford it (cough cough artists, who often work in low income jobs like many other people in the US) would be invested in getting it. No one's forcing those artists to sign up for this, the artists are happy to do it because MAYBE it's something they believe in.
I think making a Call for artists to make propoganda can be a dangerous thing, but if you think about about it, there is already a huge, loud media machine (TV, radio, interwebs) working for the opposition, spreading fear and craziness about PROPOSALS that need to be DEBATED in a REASONABLE WAY.
Isn't it a little late in the day to argue that the NEA is "beyond the Constitution's scope"?
Our Federal Government has created a extra-consitutional system of taxation that acutally takes your money directly from your employer before you get it!. It's created a nationalized retirement fund that forces you to have a national ID number, and again conficscates your money before you receive it. Our Supreme Court has decided that local governments can confiscate your property, hand the title over ot another private citizen so he can develop it into a use that will generate more tax. Our Federal Govt. is controlling what wage you can agree to work for. Money for schools. Money for roads. It just took 750,000 million dollars from your grandchildren and gave it to the world's bankers because they made bad loans.
The NEA? That ship sailed a long time back
Perfect. It's even French…
Stan I agree with cutting off funds to NEA, PBS, Acorn, etal but I firmly believe the whole Non-profit tax exemption should be completely stopped/investigated before allowing NP/Tax Exemption for anything including religion and Trust Funds.
a c-o-l-d chill goes down my spine….
the specter of….19..
the official 'Fine Art photography' of the Dresden Flower Show…
the posters, sculpture, and venues of the Olympics…
The film….'Triumph of the Will'
all in the service of the state
The NEA is quickly (if not already) becoming the propaganda department of the Obama administration. That should be no surprise to anyone since all Marxist/facist/totalitarian regimes have one.
My tax dollars at work? Promoting agendas that I am opposed to?
The NEA should be abolished.
they're one of the wings. before this election, it's all been unofficial. Now they've stopped pretending.
didn't she use to slay vampires?
indeed, now they are getting direct marching orders.
ooo, I know, they can all wear propeller beanies to symbolize the wind turbines!
it's a standard tactic of the left. Accuse opponent's of the left of exactly what the left is doing day by day. Of course it helps when the MSM is in their pocket.
Sir – I respectfuly take my hat off to you. It's incredibly gratifying to see that someone understands what real personal "Integrity" actually is.
Hmmm! Let's review. Artists usually work alone and very few have health care coverage unless through a spouse or have another fulltime job, or belong to a union (musicians, actors, etc) and often the employment situation is spotty and coverage is not continuous. Non-profit arts groups that may or not receive grants from the NEA have small staffs, often cannot qualify for group coverage that require 3 or more employees, or that work part time and do not meet insurance criteria.
Health care is critical especially for the older artists and performers who actually need coverage.
Artists and the arts should engage in the issue – it's neither propaganda, spin, or politics. It's self preservation
[...] column at BigHollywood, by Patrick Courrielche is exceptional and thought [...]
I was talking with a friend of mine before the election and he said, "Have you seen those anti-Obama posters? They look like old Communist propaganda posters." I had to explain to him that those were PRO Obama posters. He took a second look and realized was right. He was shocked that the campaign was using that "look" to sell their candidate. He was also amazed that nobody seemed to notice the resemblence to the Communist propaganda. I told him "Oh, they probably notice. They just don't care."
Here's some side-by-side for you (along with some funny satirical posters as well):
http://rjart.blogspot.com/2008/05/political-poste...
"A government supported artist is an incompetent whore."
-Robert A. Heinlein
Utterly. F–king. Scarry.
But no surprise or shock. I'm just surprised they didn't have this conference call 4-5 months ago.
Amazing. The "overreach" becomes more blatant and sinister by the day.
"What that looks like legally?…bare with us as we learn the language so that we can speak to each other safely… "
Exactly what language is this? Not English? When the Obama campaign did a remake of the Presidential Seal for a press conference on the campaign people were falling over themselves to defend the sophomoric behavior. And it was the day the Titanic hit the iceberg.
Now while they recruit more perpetrators from the art community via the NEA to help please and sedate those people oblivious to the fact the ship is sinking the RAT ELITES are scurrying about the ship using – what? – ObamaSpeak to pick and choose who gets into the life rafts.
All of these folks need to get a grip. Others should be banned from government for life. Some should be in prison. And a handful of these jokers inside the beltway and at GS/JPM….off with their heads
King OBAMA the dictator!!!!!!, wait to you see what he is doing with his national brown shirt force that is supposed to be stronger than our military. We have lost control of our goverment. We are on our way to a bannna republic.
This administration will do anything to destroy our country. all go to Glen Beck this week and learn the truth.How will we convince all who voted for this man.
The hair on my arms, neck, legs and everywhere else is standing up.
"learn to talk to each other safely"?
I think we need some information as to how to contact the NEA and express our displeasure in the strongest terms. Thank you for shining the light on this truly horrifying development within the arts community.
If this doesn't get true artists creating out of dissent than nothing will…
"I, do pledge allegiance to Hedley Lamarr"
"I do pledge allegiance to Hedy Lamar"
"That's Hedley!"
"That's Hedley"!
These artist taking the money must be careful. By taking the money the White House Pay Czar will be able to dictate how much money they can make from the work and the remainder must be "donated" the the DNC.
So, let's just ZERO the NEA's budget when we are back in power.
Bring it on. WE artist on the right are better artists and will blow them away.
Why do I hear to Soviet Union's national anthem playing as I read this story?
I'm an accomplished illustrator, art director, designer, chief cook and bottle washer…I am not a liberal booger eater.
You don't care about naive artists, but you should care that your hard-earned money is being given to them.
Artists will create what they will. If they are upset with Obama, you'll see it. It may take months to create a piece. Remember he's only been in office 7 months. Time will tell. In any event, that author is expecting some type of quota system of pro and anti Obama art. Art doesn't work like that, unless you like in North Korea.
Artists will create what they will. If they are upset with Obama, you'll see it. It may take months to create a piece. Remember he's only been in office 7 months. Time will tell. In any event, that author is expecting some type of quota system of pro and anti Obama art. Art doesn't work like that, unless you live in North Korea.
The answer to these questions is strikingly easy:
Simply ask: "Would this effort be OK were the NEA to send out a similar "call to action" that substituted the name of one president for another (hypothetically, say "Bush" for "Obama"), and the focus areas around which to "raise a stink" were replaced, one for another, according to those presidential priorities (again, say…. "War on Terror" for "energy and environment" and "No Child Left Behind" for "Healthcare")?
How are Liberals going to feel when a Republican is again in the White House (which will happen again, sooner or later) and/or a Republican majority returns to power in Congress (sooner or later), and the Right decides to avail themselves of these same allowances and facilities to promote their governing priorities?
THAT is what Conservatives need to be stressing to get these sedated & silent Civil Libertarians off of their couches and back to waving the "stop" signs.
Numbers 22 and 23 on the list of the 45 DECLARED GOALS FOR THE COMMUNIST TAKEOVER OF AMERICA (which can be found in the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD from 1963) are this:
22. Continue to discredit American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms." –> today we call this "Modern Art" (I call it crap on display)
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
TRUST ME, these people KNOW the power of artistic imagery and the propaganda effect it has on the psyche of a populous – ALL classical art and art forms have been all but eliminated from the American Pop Culture.
"Now, if you are for the issues being pursued by the current administration, you may be inclined to think favorably of what I am labeling “overreach.” What a powerful weapon to fight those that are opposed to our ideas, you may think. For those in this camp I ask you this – will you feel the same when the opposition has access to the same machine?"
Of course Liberals would scream bloody murder if Republicans did this sort of thing. Liberals think "fairness" is for chumps with morals, and chumps with morals are losers! If it would help liberals to shoot rockets into "flyover country" from Sidwell Friends' schoolyard, they'd do it.
Let's just abolish the NEA when the tide turns. We need to save the money anyway with the deficit Obama is giving us.
the NEA has beeen contrversial for a while, remember they funded the cross in a bottle of urine stuff.
Excellent post. The difference between joiners and truth seekers is a very illuminating phrasing. To really create art, you have to be a truth-seeker. To engage in a conference call to gather a list of focus areas around which to create your art is the exact opposite of being an artist. These HOPE posters persuaded no one, and anyone soft-headed enough to be persuaded about one of these issues (cap and trade, really?) by some piece of art was already taking the dominant media point of view without any thinking, or "truth seeking."
Since when as NEA ever done anything that wasn't liberal, leftist, or perverted in some way?
Bingo! I serve as Executive Director to a small arts organization in a rural, high mountain "underserved" community and wouldn't apply for the NEA ARC grants if my life depended on. Onerous over-reaching requirements. I don't want the NEA or any other governmental agency looking over my shoulder, telling me what to paint or what to tell my artist community.
And our tax dollars are paying for this? What the heck?
Lovely! I'm an artist and I'm blogging ( all my own idea) with Conservative Illustrations plus text on SHINE Yahoo. Began on a whim about a week and a half ago and the response has been tremendous. Visible to the public, I currently have Two in the MOST popular field, a third stayed there for almost a week before dropping off. But it is behind the public scene that really tells a story – the numbers are piling up and many of the viewers who never comment publicly are originating from — guess where?!?! US Government Offices — I look at those hits, and see printing downloads, etc., and now I wonder
a. Are those sounds over my roof black helicopters
b. Are some of those posters who protest my art, my posts, perhaps paid
c. Would I qualfiy for this grant?
d. Will I be audited?
y'all check my blog out and let me know what you think. Remember I do this with nooooo grant.
There are already some of us out there doing it – without government funding. I will not bow to massah, whomever he may be. Instead, I challenge Conservatives to take a stand and support artists like me. It is more appropriate, helps validate the work, and eliminates the Left's ability to legitimately criticize our efforts. We need a Tea Party movement for the arts, and I am already working on it. Will you join me? http://www.machinepolitick.com
Patrick, you are absolutely right to question the intrusion of the government into your world. Keep in mind that many of those supposed "right-wing nut jobs" are simply people who have experienced similar intrusions into their careers and lives. The NEA has long been the recipient of unrequited funding from their uncle Sam; however, some of us in other fields have long felt the the jackboot on our necks and the hand in our pockets in producing that funding. I am not a fan of the NEA. I am a fan of art. I am concerned about the naivety and gullibility of many in the art industry. A lot of what is going on these days indicates that we are at a precipice. I hope that more of your compatriots can see that they are being tapped to be something other than artists.
Simple abuse of power.
Great! I just checked out how this works. All you have to do is hit my name/id/ and off you go to my website. To see some of the more controversial artwork of Obama, scroll down.
My god this scares me. Artists are suppose to be the voice of dissention, not makers of propaganda. I hate it when politicians use artists as tools. Thank you for speaking up.
The NEA died way back in 1989 – when they couldn't, wouldn't stand up for mapplethorpe… when the let witkins books be torn apart by mr. helms, without attacking back… without trying to explain to the general public why mappelthorpe is a-ok and why it's just wrong to rip apart books and attack art… period.
art is to be understood or ignored, not burned – art will never fit into the peg holes.
what the nea did back in 1989 was made art a job, where you had to go to school and LEARN art so you could be employed and taken seriously – that isn't art, it's work.
the nea has been dead for years… the 'artists' who use their talents only to gain fame and fortune are the real traitors… and should be treated as such.
"Previously shackled with the controversy over the Serrano and Mapplethorpe images of 1989 that escalated to a debate over its very existence, the NEA needs to stay far away from any questions of impropriety."
If this were 1938….I'd know precisely where I was standing. The problem is that this is 2009….and I'm starting to question where I'm standing.
We are doomed! The USA is no longer. Obama is the worst thing that has ever happened to America. When they come for you, telling them that you voted for him won't help. He cares for no one but himself.
If an "artist" cannot not find willing contributors to finance his endeavor, why should people who actually work to make the money they earn have it "seized" from them in the name of Art? I support the creativity of any artist. If enough people like his work, they have the choice to buy it, plain and simple. If they don't support you, get another vocation that will. The more the government takes from producers, the more thjose who don't earn want. Life's not always fair, but government is worse in the name of fairness.
Seriously, is anyone surprised. So NEA is going to use my tax dollars to fund art which promotes the president's agenda with which I whole-heartedly disagree. This administration has very little respect for the constitution, the bill of rights or any agency charter. This is what happens when people decide that they would rather be taken care of than to take care of themselves. We wake up to enormous government, out of control spending and serious infringements on our rights. It's been happening for decades because we've allowed ourselves to become so distracted by bi-partisan non-issues rather than focusing on the sins of BOTH parties. Hopefully, the public will wake up and rebel before it is too late
As an artist, I support this idea of government funding b/c the average person is too stupid to identify with art and needs to be forced to support it through his or her taxes. Government art should promote socialist ideas also b/c it's good for the people.
I would urge any political artist to post on SHINE; Yahoo. Open up a blog, and even if you have another blog, double up and post on SHINE with links to your original blog. The exposure is tremendous and I've had one post go viral with over 50000 hits in one week. If you want your message out there, that is the one site you should add.
My artwork, I'm new at the political illustrations, are pretty cheesy but I turn 'em out fast and furious and they are effective for my goal. Check it out below – scroll down for more controversial artwork featuring Obama himself.
I'm totally AGAINST government propaganda grants for artists!
http://astrology.yahoo.com/blog/a.8KDrcyLVd.iRl0K...
Brave man. I hope that you aren't crushed for your honesty and self-examination.
Can any one of us imagine what would have happened if the Bush administration organized this call?
Why is The NEA even in existance. If an artists work will not stand on it's own in the Consumer community then it has no reason for being done unless paid for by the artist or a private party. Yes I am an artist and composer so I speak from wisdom.
Stop funding any art with public money. NOW.
What a great article! Thank you.
Well you certainly scared the you know what out of me. This administration becomes more Orwellian by the day.
There was great art in the Soviet Union. The Arts were given great support as long as they advanced the issues of their masters.
As a libertarian, I'd flip my wog if Bush were using the National Endowmnet for The Arts as a propaganda arm of the govenrment or of the GOP or any specific political campaign. But he didn't. The Democrats have no such compunction, however.
Liberals do not have an agenda that America can get behind so they have to do it with "catch phrases" and through "art". It is all just a distraction that they are trying to run the country in to the ground so that they can have their socialist utopia.
Never trust a president with a logo.
So, from this I sumise that the NEA is now a taxpayer funded democrat party arm?
Okay, I'll bite. Why should we overhaul an entire system of medical care because artists can't afford health care?
BTW, I am an artists as is my husband. Our first priority is buying health insurance for our family. Of course, we have to sacrifice other things but it happens to be one of our priorities.
Do you think the NEA will support my i believe in capitali$m bracelet? It's attractively green and makes a statement. Portion of profits fight against Employee free choice act. Oh wait I am on the wrong side. I meant I have an I believe in marxism bracelet in red. NEA please send me the funds.. thanks
http://www.ibelieveincapitalism.com
This is exactly how the Nazis used art in the 1930s. It was used as a tool by the regime to promote their agenda and was placed everywhere to influence people on the street, in the arts, and in the media that the Third Reich was the answer to the world's needs. Scary!
Sign me up. Here's my poem submission:
Life of a Ditto Head,
Spoon-fed Fear and Dread.
End-of-day’ers, Racist baiters, Drill-baby drillers and ACORN haters.
Palin lovers, “He’s-a-Muslim” wailers, Birther naysayers and Raunchy teabaggers.
Town-hall yellers, Machine-gun bearers, Plug-pullin’ deathers and Socialism scarers.
Joker taggers, Tree of Liberty sprayers, and Homo-Ted Haggard is still in our prayers.
Sign me up! Here's my submission of a poem.
Life of a Ditto Head,
Spoon-fed Fear and Dread.
End-of-day’ers, Racist baiters, Drill-baby drillers and ACORN haters.
Palin lovers, “He’s-a-Muslim” wailers, Birther naysayers and Raunchy teabaggers.
Town-hall yellers, Machine-gun bearers, Plug-pullin’ deathers and Socialism scarers.
Joker taggers, Tree of Liberty sprayers, and Homo-Ted Haggard is still in our prayers.
I like what you're doing, but the point of my idea was to use the opposition's apparatus against itself, as it has done to America for decades.
It sounds like you're a big tool, with a Reich-wing agenda. Scary!
Your article is propaganda. Why use portraits of Obama? Why not use some illustrations of "health care" or any of the other issues the NEA would like to offer artists the chance to work on? Clearly, propaganda… ironic too considering your article.
"bare (sic) with us…" Bare? Really?
Point eloquently made ash. And least anyone believe the contemporary propaganda, the Nazis were fasciests under the guise of socialism – not conservatives. As a true conservative (ala Martin Neimoller), while I may not care for your "Entartete Kunst" (Thanks for the German lesson.), I would oppose a law that prohibited you from expressing yourself through your art. My experience is that most conservatives are people of principal and not ideologues – freedom being a principal generally held above other principals.
If they could afford the $2,000 help me understand why they didn't have an insurance policy. My daughter in Graduate School can buy a broad based insurance package for about $300/month. I think it may be that your friends elect to NOT buy insurance, hoping for a free lunch government policy. However, as anyone who lives in Canada or England can tell you, their insurnace in NOT free. Everyone has to pay in.
With the Russian Revolution of 1917, for the first time in history an entire nation is governed by a communist system. The posters from the first years of this government show revolutionary zeal and optimism of building a new society. Campaigns are waged to eliminate illiteracy and improve health care. Other posters attack the opponents of Lenin's government: a bloody civil war swept the country until 1920. Progressive artists use the poster as a medium to reach a broad public.
By 1930, Stalin is in full control. Propaganda focuses on political discipline and the Five Year Plans, ambitious programs for the collectivization of agriculture and establishment of heavy industry.
In the 1930s, …Constructivist designers experience great difficulties; only Socialist Realism is approved. Happy, healthy, young workers and determined soldiers are the principal subjects, as well as, of course, the friendly smiling Stalin.
Brigade KGK, 1931
Female delegate, stand to the fore!
Publisher: Ogiz-Izogiz, Moscow/Leningrad
(Lithography, 99×69 cm., inv.nr. BG E5/578, coll. Rose)
Poster directed at women farmers, delegated to the meeting of 'the crack brigade of forewomen of Sots-Stroitelstva' [something like 'the construction of socialism'], where discussions are to be held concerning 'the realization of full collectivization and the liquidation of the kulaks [private farmers] as a class'. Packed in an avant garde design, the political jargon of the poster is stifling.
Is anyone surprised? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so-ggvEyvmk&fe...
Is anyone surprised? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so-ggvEyvmk&fe...
How would the artists who are so enthused about using NEA money to fund pro-Obama issues feel if the NEA was renamed the Ministry of Propaganda?
Hmmmm! Let's review. You and other artistes elect to live a life style that does not generate enough income to let you buy health insurance so I am supposed to support your choice. As with many things in life it comes down to choices you make on a personal level. You want to be an artiste; fine, knock yourself out. You want to create posters to express your positions, great. But it is very, very wrong for the government to draft you for their purposes.
I see the creation of a profile czar a family portrait czar a "bo" the dog czar. Just please no nudes of Michelle., for the love of God
Is anyone seeing the paralell with Germany during Hitler's Reign?
The whole world is owned by 6 companies. No-one BIG, I mean really BIG, of note makes it without their say so. That includes rock stars, etc. Nothing happens by chance. NOTHING!
http://www.disinfomatrix.com/_/rsrc/1238787398089...
Perhaps Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn could shed some light on this topic, were he still alive.
A new National Socialist party is now here. Headed by Obama and the New Democratic party! Hitler had nothing on these folks.
Cricket…put down the bong; straighten up and get a real job. If you're an artist, unless you're well known and the favorite of the elite, you are POOR…although I have seen some of the "art" that school district's put into newly constructed buildings and the prices they fetch are staggering. You said that no one is forcing them, but I guarantee that they made them an offer they couldn't refuse so they did the predictable, they sold out!!!
Wow tough one. Our stimulus going to rapist and murderers in prison and the NEA jamming their extreme left ideology down our throats, paid for by us, and furthuring the Obama agenda through ART. Help us, please. Will the adults in DC please stand up? They are a bunch of spoiled frat boys playing with monopoly money. Send the liberals home. Elect adults. The left-wing lunatics are destroying our country — with crayons!
Hmmmm. An artist with an opinion… That just won't do, Patrick. Please return to your immediate supervisor for re-education. The State thanks you.
Am I the only one that suspects this is the start of a 'n.a.z.i-like' propaganda machine?
How is this to be funded? NEA is supported by our tax dollars. If memory serves me grants from the NEA stipulate that the recipient does not use those funds for political purposes.
As an artist I think this is wrong wrong wrong!
Chairman Mao would be proud.
WAKE UP YOU SLEEPING MASSES!!!!!!! This is the Third Reich revisited!!!!!!!!
Please read for yourselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://fcit.usf.edu/Holocaust/arts/artReich.htm
Obama is truly a megalomaniac. And his minions are so adoring. It's revolting.
To me this is outright scary. I grew up with "socialist realism" in the former Soviet Union. When I left that place back in 1989 I thought I would never have to see this stuff again, and my children would never know "developed socialism". Now it looks like the Soviets are catching up with me.
Eric.
The NEA should have been killed off when Reagan was in office.
Yet, here it is, still sucking off the public tit, telling the same public what scum they are.
Any artist who accepts money from the NEA is a WHORE! Any artist who accepts money from the NEA deserves to be called a WHORE to their face, in print, in reviews and in galleries.
This stinks. Stop it.
As an artist who wants to help I think I will create a movie about the glorious new world Pres. Obama is creating. It will be a beautiful tribute to hope and unity. I think I will call the movie, "Triumph of the Will" or maybe just "Triumph des Willens"
It's too bad Leni Riefenstahl died in 2003. She would have been a valuable consultant to the NEA on this project.
[...] administration scares me. The Drudge Report carried a link today to an article by Patrick Courrielche of the Big Hollywood blog. Patrick talks about a conference call he was on with the National Endowment of the Arts to [...]
100% pure fascism. Please everyone, read "Liberal Fascism". This is government propaganda that Woodrow Wilson, FDR and Hitler used.
[...] are a lot of interesting points raised. See it here: The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion? This entry was posted on Wednesday, August 26th, 2009 at 12:19 pm and is filed under [...]
This is a little creepy. Somehow I think if a Repub has done it, Dems would be screaming.
I wonder how those portraits will be thought of 50 years from now when he is known has the great America destroyer.?
Do you think the NEA will support my i believe in capitali$m bracelet? It's attractively green and makes a statement. Portion of profits fight against Employee free choice act. Oh wait I am on the wrong side. I meant I have an I believe in marxism bracelet in red. NEA please send me the funds.. thanks
http://www.ibelieveincapitalism.com
unbelievable, thanks for alerting us. This is not kosher.
Here's my free contribution.
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I have ALWAYS felt that Obama is just one big marketing scheme! The slogans, the signs … and just like most marketing schemes, what you see is considerably more than what you actually get. Totally agree with the others that this is eerily similar to the communist/fascist propaganda. Very scary.
[...] played a key role in the President’s election as mentioned throughout the conference call – the National Endowment for the Arts was steering the art community toward creating art on the very i…; those being health care reform and cap-and-trade legislation. Could the National Endowment for the [...]
Haven't you been paying attention? That's what these artists create! Paintings of Obama! Duh!
My father in-law was reading this story over my shoulder just 5 min ago and is now laying on the sofa trying to catch his breath repeating "They can't do this, I'm to old to run anywhere else" You see, he grew up around Dresden in WWII and escaped from East Germany as a young man in 1950. He knows what this means.
Nah, this isn't like Hitler at all. Why, that's just silly.
For the Marxist, there must be a vehicle for the distribution of propaganda art: what better tool than the NEA? We need someone to design the Big Barack is Watching You posters, don't we?
NutsnBolts you made the perfect comment, but you can be sure you will soon be all "wee-weed" out. Beautiful play on the words.
Remember the brilliant Russian artists of the early 20th century. When they failed to satisfy their leader's political needs they were labled "deviants". Their Government feared the power of art and took control.
The innovators were crushed, or forced into exile and Russian art became propaganda. Despite a few exceptions, it has never recovered from that blow.
American artists- the NEA's attempt to control you means your government now fears your power.
To the writer of this piece, dude, you have guts! Thank you for being honest.
Isn't it a little late in the day to argue that the NEA is "beyond the Constitution's scope"?
Our Federal Government has created a extra-consitutional system of taxation that acutally takes your money directly from your employer before you get it!. It's created a nationalized retirement fund that forces you to have a national ID number, and again conficscates your money before you receive it. Our Supreme Court has decided that local governments can confiscate your property, hand the title over to another private citizen so he can develop it into a use that will generate more tax. Our Federal Govt. is controlling what wage you can agree to work for. Money for schools. Money for roads. It just took 750,000 million dollars from your grandchildren and gave it to the world's bankers because they made bad loans.
The NEA? That ship sailed a long time back
Patrick – very nice article, and yes, the hiar is standing on the back of my neck. I think we should let our CongressCritters know about what is going on at the NEA. This is clearly a misuse of taxpayer money, as well as a violation of the Constitution, and the public trust that has been granted to the NEA.
Pretty much this is a page out of the Totalitarian's Handbook.
What, have they not been plastering his head all over the city. You know him as the Joker with socialism and fascism and No to the NWO.
National Socialists-Nazis. Yup-Oblome-how do you like that hope and change huh??
They did not only "invite the art community to a meeting to discuss issues currently under vehement national debate", but to openly ask for their assistance in supporting one side of that debate – the President's. It is the blatant politicization of a non-partisan body of government, asking them to behave as if they were a part of a political party. It is frankly illegal and the subject and content of this conference call should be investigated by the DOJ – oh, wait. Forget I said that – Holder won;t do a thing. Only the press can bring the disinfecting sunlight to this corruption of government to political ends.
Wow, just wow.
Look up "Socialist Realism"
It was a key form of socialist propaganda for Stalin.
Same thing here.
Why are you worrying now? How can you be surprised? In Marxist regimes (where service to the state is the way of life), all information, including art, becomes part of the ministry of propaganda. This is the "change' you helped put in office. Unfortunately, I have to live with it too.
No, I think they all use the same "artists" from the Soviet Union, too much resemblense.
Make sure it is an apolitically correct beer that you drink to render the inherent racism moot. I think you can find the list of beers that Gates, Crowley, BS/BO, and Biden shared. How about mix them all together in a sort of melting pot boiler maker, drink them down, wee-wee them into the mason-dixon jar on a photo or sculpture of the (so-called) Messiah.
Now that would be both performance art, and an installation piece.
When the pendulum swings back the NEA is defunded, Taxes are cut and the Dept of Education money can be taxed by the states to fund education or not.
No more federal monies for Teachers Unions, ACORN, the SEIU and the entire universe of pseudo social justice and environmental groups who meddle in politics.
The unemployment of social cause drones and lackeys will be terrible, but just.
Every dollar nopt wated can be returned to the taxpayers.
Maybe they can become artists.
Get a real job you dope. Who gives a chit about those stupid pictures of Our Dear Leader besides you liberal goofballs?
Okay, I've peed in a jar, dropped a pic of Obama in it, and entitled it PeePee Obama. Now where's my NEA grant?
Wow, I am looking forward to adding to my collection of Stalin and Hitler art posters!!!
I am hoping one of Dick Cheney and Baby Seals.
Can anyone say Joseph Goebbels's. So, is the NEA going to be Obama's Propaganda Machine?
Actually, the WPA and CCC projects were quite beneficial and some great art came out of those times. Unfortunately, we seem to forget that Bush used public funds to push a religious fundamentalist vision of America.
NEA THUGS AND GANGSTERS. GREEDY USELESS PEOPLE WHO NO LONGER EDUCATE> THEY ONLY ORGANIZE FOR MORE $$$$$$$$
So where is this going to stop? Now that Obama has co-opted the NEA to serve as part of his propaganda machine, can we look forward to using other government agencies as well to his own ends.
I laugh when I think of how this would have been treated if the President doing this was Bush…or even Clinton.
Each day that goes by sets a new low for corruption.
i just finished this painting today… "Rhetoric"
timely methinks….
http://www.sesow.com/paintings/aug2k9/rhetoric.jp...
Wow is that a good point.
This is very frightening. So… under this administration, who exactly is the MINISTER OF PROPAGANDA? Or, shall we refer to this person as a Czar?
i just finished this painting today… "Rhetoric"
http://www.sesow.com/paintings/aug2k9/rhetoric.jp...
Brilliant
You're a brave soul for posting this. America was founded by people with similar spirit. Kudos.
Goebbels would be proud.
Right on, Cal! What's scary is that this is happening everywhere you look. The first one that got my attention was when financial institutions got "bailed out" with supposedly no strings attached, but after the fact, executive pay for those companies got slashed. No problem in the court of public opinion, right? But Barney Frank immediately announced that he would "explore ways to expand the use" of such pay caps on a much broader scale. We've already got min wages, they're working on max wages — how long before there's a gov't-mandated pay rate for every job in every profession, public sector or private, and then how much of a leap before the gov't starts deciding what jobs you and I will perform? Where are the constitutional scholars and lawyers while all of this "legislation by press conference" is going on? Where in the name of John Marshall is the bloody Supreme Court?
How about a copy of the Constitution?
Why is the government stealing my money to support the NEA? How nice to have the reincarnation of Woodrow Wilson (who also had no use for the Constitution) practicing his liberal fascism as President.
Wanted: Filthy, lying, Hollywood degenerates to push socialist agenda. No brain required, only those displaying extreme LIBeral zealotry, a burning hate of country, and atheistic credentials need apply.
It's summer time.
Time for a good old fashion "Cool Aid" stand.
Step right up for your "Cool Aid" America!
Would the Reichsminister of Propaganda please call his office?
Nope, this administration uses that for toilet paper.
Good stuff.
A nice play from the ol' Joe Goebbels handbook.
Their is no cure for stupidity.
Vote them all out of office and lets start over.
Political words of advice from a Senior citizen
Welcome to the vast right wing conspiracy, we've been expecting you.
its time to take back the USA and rid it of all the Ultra Ego DC hoe's!
Spend, spend, spend! GAG ME WITH A FN SPOON.
We are in the eye of a hurricane that is quickly transforming this country into a communist dictatorship. It is the express goal of the obama administration to bring our economy to complete halt and collapse. Once that happens he and his czars will step in as they have with the auto industry , wall street and the banks and take complete control of this country.
Though obama claims otherwise, his attorney general is dismantling our only first line of defense from international terrorism with the intimidation and persecution of the cia. This is nothing more than a typical communist purge. The national media is under their control, do not look to them for the truth … they avoid it at all costs.
You did not vote for the people who are running the show. Outside groups with proven communist ties are writing bills and changing laws.
We must all rise up as a diverse people and take back the country, the economy and restore the precious freedom.
Actually if you really look at who voted for odumba the stupid ones are not Republicans. It's more like "ask not what I can do for my country but can acorn teach me how to not work and sponge off the fruits of real hard working tax paying Americans" ….. 'Yes they can"
Art my ass!!!
there you go again stupid
It is propaganda and it absolutely is about self preservation-if you happen to be Obama, the current administration and their minions…the rest of the idiots who still don't have a clue are just that-IDIOTS!
Great argument for Republicans, once in power again, to shut the NEA down. It has become an arm of the DNC and should NOT be funded by taxpayer dollars.
They're looking for artists to provide them with propaganda-Hitler was mighty big on visual propaganda also.
sounds like you have to make a choice between being a tool of the state or simply a tool…
What a very well written and thought out article. Yes Patrick, our Federal Government, regardless of whether the right or left are in charge, use coercive tactics based on whether or not someone gets federal funds.
Our school systems are in disarray because the Federal Government has overtaxed every state and won't give any of it back unless they meet federal requirements. In other words, they take money from the citizens of Arizona, but won't give it back unless we educate our kids their way. The same is true of most other Federal programs, from the highway system to various charities.
And yes .. the state and local governments do the same thing using coercive tactics. But I would rather give 16% of my salary to the local and state government so they can run the schools and highways the way their citizens want them to be run, and give 6% to the feds to just run defense and diplomacy, the way the founding fathers meant it to be. At least then I can decide to move to another state or vote my local council member out of office.
When the federal government becomes the biggest source of revenue for our state governments, something is broken. When the federal government becomes the largest source of revenue for our artistic community, something is wrong. Far more art goes into city, county, and state facilities than federal ones.
Obama … let my people go!!!! You may not have gotten us into this mess, but you can begin to get us out! Not by increasing government spending, but by decreasing while working with states so they can adjust their revenue streams accordingly.
There is already a law that says that public office and public funds may not be used for political purposes.
It looks like there will have to be a constitutional ammendment covering this, PLUS delineating limits on government spending inclusive of monetary and tax policy. i.e. you cant spend public funds to further an agenda, or grant a tax deduction/rebate.
What happened to all the campaign promises about reducing "tagged" appropriations?
This sort of thing has happened with the NAZI government and Stalinists governments around the world. "good" artists are funded, "bad" artists are put into re-education camps, or the ovens.
They are simply suggesting that art be centered around the prevailing issues of our day, not the take on these issues. That they are automatically going to be supportive of the President's stance shows the paranoia inherent in most righties' distorted worldviews. It could be that artists, like most creatives and academics (read: people not beholden to fundamentalism), are liberal. I'd buy that too. But the conspiracy theories on breitbart on any given day are simply a joy to behold. They are certainly for the weak-minded, those who are too reluctant or simply incapable of doing the hard tedious work of figuring out the complexities of the world around them. It's much easier to blame an evil cabal at the top rather than to dust off those old relics: reason and analysis.
I understand. However, they track every penny that goes out the door and use it to build statistics in defense of more funding. "See how much we're helping and all the talent being nurtured?' That sort of thing.
We need to make this an issue of immorality, and you don't do that by playing the system.
I placed dog crap in a fruit jar and filled it with urin, I call it Obama in urin,
great job Patrick. AS you well know this is just the first shot across the bows, let us not forget how hitler , stalin, mao saddam and others used art to further their ungodly aims. let us not get enmeshed in this quagmire.
posted by a patriot.
Heres my poem to you Jerkoff.
Roses are red, violets are blue. Obamas a Socialist and so are you!!!
I hope that you are a woman because a man wouldn't look to the government to solve his problems nor look to others to pay for them.
Look in the mirror if you call yourself a man you might be surprised to find what you had between your legs is gone!!!
Please father Obama take care of us. We are your children. Vomit!!!!
It always been interesting to me, how certain … endeavors contain concentrated populations of individuals who believe that someone else ("society" )is obligated to fund their interest / career / calling / obsession, while also maintaining absolutely no obligation to the funding source. No question – Obama administration is out of line here. But if you don't like it, get a job that pays you in proportion to your value to the organization and continue your art as a hobby. I don't ask you to fund my career; I'm honestly not interested in funding yours.
LiberaHypocrite wrote:
"How many aggrandizing portraits of Obama can exist before things start to eerily resemble the public displays of state sponsored phony adulation for "Dear Leader" like we see in North Korea, old Iraq, China, Venezuela, and anywhere else tyranny has reigned over it's people? Eventually the public will recognize this and the artists will lose all credibility. The cynic in me wants to see this unabashed adoration for this man increased to ever-higher levels even as he further squanders America's wealth, power, and prestige throughout the world.
Being duped into your own self-destruction is a beautiful display of life imitating art, don't you think?"
Brilliant post, sir/madame.
I would only add that I cannot wait to watch the exquisite comedy – the farce, really – of The One's blindered minions denying His nakedness, once everyone else notices he's wearing nothing.
Wow…. I can't believe how many people support this article? You think that by the NEA discussing with artists about today's issues that this will lead to Nazism? There is so much paranoia it's unreal. I suggest all of you read this:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20090826/sc_l...
Looks like Vlad, Joe, and Mao aren't the only ones who will have their portraits hanging everywhere. Heck, in North Korea every family has a portrait of Kim Jong Ill on in their living room wall. Why is it that so many folks on the left cannot see where this road leads? (Answer: The *other* NEA.) History has many, many examples to demonstrate how a cult mindset ends up creating mass misery, at the least. Oh, but *this* time it's *different*. Twenty-first century Bolsheviks. New logo, same agenda.
This week's recommended movies: Doctor Zhivago and The Killing Fields
Have nice day, comrades.
What were those comments that got people into trouble?
Something to the effect that Obama and the administration were acting like the Nazis?
I'm sorry, I want you to tell me what the great difference would be?
Did the Nazis not create a government funded Ministry of Propaganda…. which in this case, after reading the article, would be the NEA
Next question, what union leading thug will be appointed Barry's National Arts Czar?
Here's my free contribution. (Donations are welcomed).
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Another reason to shut 'em ALL down; NOW, not later. This Executive and Legislative "team" of weasels need to meet Mr. Tree and Mr. Rope on the Mall; some assembly required. It would sort of be like draping islands in pink fabric; how artistic.
Hey, where in the heck is the joker portrait. I really like it because it show the essence of this wacko.
[...] Hell no. Non serviam. The NEA is being co-opted as a means of creating pro-Obama-program propaganda: I was invited by the National Endowment for [...]
Hucbald, I agree completely. The more you try to push an agenda, the less creative you become. Great point.
The reason why the majority of artists, particularly in the theatre arts, supported Obama is because the democrats have always been strong supporters of the arts. Non-profit theatres have always depended on the NEA and other federally and state funded grants, and with the economy as it is, with private and corporate funding gone down the tubes, regional theatres are closing left and right.
As a moderate conservative actress, I did not vote for Obama, but this is the first year ever that I will not qualify for my union health insurance. Theatres I have worked at have closed down, so there is less work to be had. Actors just want to work so they can't see past the need to get the next job. I can count on one hand the number of conservative actors I know.
The art reminds me of all those portrts of socialist dictators in the USSR, Italy, and Germany in the 1930's and 40's…makes me sick!
This oBOWma is a megalomaniac… and a national embarrassment. Maybe a billboard will fall on him and put US out of his misery.
David,
Entartete Kunst was banned in Nazi Germany. Essentially all modern art was called degenerate, un- german. Degenerate artists were sanctioned. I want artists and everyone else to express themselves freely without government preferences or dictates. Hence my call for what the Nazis called degenerate art. If they hated it it must be good. Check out some of the stuff the Nazis did like. Remind you of anything?
I want to see the goddamn music video on Dipdive.com!
Just wait until Rahm Emanuel gets involved! I can see it now…. Artist: "Yes I submitted my application to the NEA for funding. I would like to check the status of my application." Receptionist: "Please hold for Mr. Emanuel". … short pause …The Rahmeister General: "I see that you didn't participate on our last telephone 'conversation' (makes an odd three fingered quotation mark gesture with his tiny hands)". Artist: "Excuse me? Rahmeister General: "The call you schmuck, the call! You weren't on it. What are you dense?" Artist: "I'm sorry, I didn't know it was mandatory." Rahmeister General: "How can I put this so you'll understand? In the words of that last great Communicator in Chief "You're either with us, or against us". Catch my drift?" Artist: "Yes, I'm starting to see…" gets cut off abruptly by the Rahmeister General "Good! See that you do." click…… dial tone.
Vote for one, or submit your own.
NEA:
1. Narcissistic Egomaniacal Arrogance
2. Naive Endorsement for the Assh0le
3. Nobama, EAT ASS!
4. Nobama Expelled from America
It's less an issue of that than asking to openly advocate for their help in promoting one side of the debate, complete with mentions of where your money is coming from and the "support we've given you", like "Obama is a strong supporter of the arts" and "you can help bring change." No political adventurism from supposedly non-partisan arms of the government.
It's chilling in effect, if not intent. And I hesitate to use nazism or communism to frame it because both of those groups used it to further their political goals. It's actually totalitarian.
Next thing, the fvc|<in c0c|<suc|<er will be having statues erected, a la Saddam.
"DEAR LEADER"
Is this something unexpected? All the communist governments of the world, and Hitler's Germany, have supported and did support "the Arts", as long as the "artists" are/were willing to be mouthpieces for the government. Uh, so did all monarchies, empires and churches in history! Hello!!! That's why it's a bad idea for any government to support the arts, or the media, or churches, or schools, for that matter. Now, this country has an aspiring dictator in the White House, and a Congress that is equally ambitious about centralizing political and economic power in Washington, DC, under one party, and they are going to try everything they can to enlist those institutions, and the children of our country, to become soldiers for their cause. It's a natural thing for them to do, and if we allow them to continue, the American Revolution is over.
I am teaching a HS class about the American Revolution and then second semester we will study the Constitution. One of the books that these 12yr olds will discuss is "The Red Scarf Girl" by Ji-Li Jiang. This article is reminding me of the Cultrual Revoltion and how the the arts were used. Were I live in CA, we have been encouraged to "tell" on our neighbors if we feel they are watering to much or water on the wrong day. I think that we are looking at a mix between Germany in the 1930's and China in the 1960's.
What are we thinking and why do we do nothing. I will keep the signs on my house as long as I can.
There is an old fashioned word for this, its called Propaganda. Yes, I know it is a loaded term and noticed that you took great care not to use it but let's call it what it is. There is a reason that this was a Conference Call and not on a document anywhere. The appearance of impropriety is certainly there, but without a paper trail it is hard to make a case that there is anything nefarious going on. They are merely "suggesting" themes, the artists still have a choice whether they choose to produce art concerning these themes. And how can you prove they did not choose to do these on their own. It would be interesting to hire a bunch of artists to do Anti Obama Art ala the Joker Poster and have them apply for grants from the NEA. Then when they all get rejected, file a lawsuit against the NEA alleging bias.
your a little late on that one, this started around a year ago, or have you already forgotten this little treasure?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1QiSi0_kTo
guess their is a plan, look at that, they where talking about their healthcare plan a whole year ago, before the elections even happened…
Were the Furry Freak Brothers funded by a governmental grant? I thought not…
I beg to differ that this is totalitariansim… Here is the definition what happens in a totalitarian regime:
"Totalitarian regimes or movements maintain themselves in political power by means of an official all-embracing ideology and propaganda disseminated through the state-controlled mass media, a single party that controls the state, personality cults, control over the economy, regulation and restriction of free discussion and criticism, the use of mass surveillance, and widespread use of state terrorism."
So the NEA offers, or promulgates, the idea that the arts will be funded for projects that promote positive things (affordable health care, conscientious environomentalism i.e.)… THINGS that most free thinking individuals want anyway… and this is is totalitarianism? More paranoia.
BTW… you are being watched right now by the NSA for any indication of terrorists plots with keywords on this comment blog. So mass surveillance is ALREADY going on, and its for ANTI-terrorist ideals.
Some people will find any conspiracy in anything I guess.
[...] money does the NEA (National Endowment for the Arts) get from the Federal Government each year?? Big Hollywood Blog Archive The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion? [...]
What are you talking about, idiots?
You killed Constitution and United States of America!
Four legs good, two legs bad!
LiberalHypocrit asks "if these artists are too naive or too in awe of "The Great One" to see that they are being used as simple tools of the state then who cares?" Well, we should all care, because such abuse of power affects us all. A Federal agency, funded with all our tax dollars, being used to promote the current administration! Does a day go by any more that we aren't facing a new 'over-reach'? This is not a concern exclusive to the left or the right, it is a concern for all America. Thank you, Patrick, for being bold enough to speak out.
LiberalHypocrit asks "if these artists are too naive or too in awe of "The Great One" to see that they are being used as simple tools of the state then who cares?" Well, we should all care, because such abuse of power affects us all. A Federal agency, funded with all our tax dollars, being used to promote the current administration! Does a day go by any more that we aren't facing a new 'over-reach'? This is not a concern exclusive to the left or the right, it is a concern for all America. Thank you, Patrick, for being bold enough to speak out.
This is really scarey. Could you imagine the Republicans trying this? This would be on the news 24/7. I think people are just starting to wake up to just how evil these people are. We are in grave danger as a nation. Our freedom is at risk.
Ah yes, looks like the NEA is having its "Roses for Stalin Moment":
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c6/Ros...
Would the NEA give me money to create a little statue of Obama upside down in a jar of urine? Or maybe a portrait covered with dung? This will be removed as unsuitable of course but the same thing was done with, respectively, a crucifix and a painting of the Madonna…………………………
Would the NEA give me money to create a little statue of Obama upside down in a jar of urine? Or maybe a portrait covered with dung? This will be removed as unsuitable of course but the same thing was done with, respectively, a crucifix and a painting of the Madonna…………………………
Does this remind anyone else of Napoleon in Orwell's Animal Farm?
Shut Up, Darling
Why waste words when words cannot confess
desire's eager ectasy or love's hopelessness.
By our uncertain silence it is best expressed
here in the darkness where our passion lingers
like the odor of an onion on a fry cook's fingers.
So….
some struggle to forget, some to remember
the swiftly fading glory. Each exquisite ember
now lies flecked with frost-like flakes of ashes,
dark stars on burning skies as time blows past us.
Though that breath breathes everywhere the same,
It somehow takes one spark to dusty death
yet fans another to a flame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeROnVUADj0&fe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeROnVUADj0&fe...
There are 22+ million government employees that consume, but do not produce wealth and abuse the freedom and private property rights of citizens. Average compensation for federal employees is over $75k/year + benefits. Municipal employees in tiny towns are paid $125k/year + benefits, far and above useful, private employment. Government employees are the greatest threat to our freedom and private property, which is precisely why there was a war of independence to destroy and restart government. The only good government employees are those who work for the people, not government, who distrust government and who serve as watchdogs. However, most people who work for or otherwise benefit from government protect their source of income, see us as a threat and try to increase their control over us and our property. It truly is us against them. Abuse of government as organized crime is inevitable. Government must recede to tolerable, sustainable levels or be destroyed and reborn yet again. The only healthy government is one that fears its well armed citizens.
Did Obama name the Art Czar yet?
WOW. Fantastic article – I cannot believe that anyone would consent to the dissemination of propaganda that is reminiscent of Nazi Germany or Communist China. Taxpayers should not be funding endeavors such as these.
Yeah.. and all you graduates of the Frankfurt School of neo-Marxism have all the answers.. right? I wonder if Mickey Moore would be making all his docudrama's if he knew he was going to have to hand over 98% of his profits to the so-called less advantaged?
Get a grip. Capitalists built this country and capitalists will take it back from the less deserving.
Its like a play out of the NSDAP and communist handbooks. I mean it is incredible how similar the focus on propaganda of this administration resembles times past. (dark, cruel epidemics in history) I almost don't believe that all of this keeps continuing to happen in the United States. Just when I think I've seen the worst, they manage to surprise me with things I once thought implausible. "Fast, loose and deceptive" seems to be the motto of this administration. Its getting disgusting.
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The author states he is not a "right wing nut" but word on the street is he was a big time Hillary supporter and had issues with Obama when he won the primary. He makes several interesting points but I think its always fascinating to know where someone is truly coming from. Intersting that part isnt mentioned in the article if its indeed true.
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therealdeal, how would being a Hillary Clinton supporter make Courrielche a "right wing nut" ? I too supported Hillary Clinton. I would have been equally offended if she'd engaged in the kind of hypermarketing that Obama engaged in, both before and after he became President.
This is why the government shouldn't be funding speech. He who pays the piper calls the tune.
Blatant hypocrisy in light of the Democrat manhunt for the creator of the Socialism joker poster depicting obama. As a full-time visual Artist, I would liken the NEA as "Affirmative Action for Artists" By conforming to a government entity as an Artist, you are in direct conflict with what art and Artists really are. Try outlawing grant writing-for-profit, (they rake in 10% of grant if awarded) and secondly break up the monopolization of Ivy League and Uber-Liberal Universities and their incestuous relations with curators at all major museums. This is an exclusive group of people back-slapping, and creating for each other’s entertainment. Do we need another Hurst embalming tank or Koons balloon animal? No, I don't think so, though we also should avoid government handing out crayons to the masses as well; I have an idea: try making it on your own in the private sector as an Artist, on your own merit, WITHOUT big brother having to spoon feed you real-life experiences. ..I’m just say’in.
[...] education, community renewal.” An artist named Patrick Courrielche was invited, participated, and wrote a column about it, explaining that it was just as creepy as it sounds: an attempt by a federal agency, that also is [...]
"The author states he is not a "right wing nut" but word on the street is he was a big time Hillary supporter…"
You mean he supported current Secretary of State ("Hillary Care") Clinton?
That's "right wing nut" to you? Wow!
"learn to talk to each other safely"?
I think we need some information as to how to contact the NEA and express our displeasure in the strongest possible terms. Thank you for shining the light on this truly horrifying development within the arts community.
If this doesn't get true artists creating out of dissent nothing will…
[...] In a must-read article on Big Hollywood, Patrick Courrielche relates his musing related to conference call on August 10th hosted by the National Endowment for the Arts, the White House Office of Public Engagement, and United We Serve. The call was aimed at “a group of artists, producers, promoters, organizers, influencers, marketers, taste-makers, leaders or just plain cool people to join together and work together to promote a more civically engaged America and celebrate how the arts can be used for a positive change!” [...]
How is this any different then the pharmacuetical and insurance companies paying lobbyists to campaign against healthcare reform? How is it any different from the Big Oil companies controlling congress to suppress technology…technology we already posses….to generate a new source of fuel which in turn would lead to the creation of new vehicles and eliminate the dependence on oil from the Mideast? Oh wait, we will just go invade every country over there under the disguise of looking for WMD's so that we can control the oil industry…..
That's what's called an appeal to motive and it is a logical fallacy. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_motive) Frankly, I can't understand your complacency. I'm hardly a 'right wing nutjob' by any stretch of the imagination and even I can see where this is going.
[...] THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT for the Art of Persuasion. [...]
I'm sure it will be Shepard Fairey.
Guest, Are you serious? If George Bush had used tax money to promote art for war or anti abortion propaganda, you people would have blown a blood vessel. I didn't like George any more than I like Barrack, because they are both globalists and collectivists. If you don't see a problem with the government funding art for the sole purpose of promoting an agenda to influence the public opinion, there is no word to describe your state of mind.
The excuses and hypocrisy of Obama's supporters are astounding.
John,
Her name was Leni Riefenstahl. Nice try, though.
John,
Her name was Leni Riefenstahl. Nice try, though.
Very nice. I have started building a Conservative art movement if you would like to check it out. My work: http://www.machinepolitick.com , the Declarationist Art movement is accessible through the Liberatchik banner.
Very nice. I have started building a Conservative art movement if you would like to check it out. My work: http://www.machinepolitick.com , the Declarationist Art movement is accessible through the Liberatchik banner.
Very nice. I have started building a Conservative art movement if you would like to check it out. My work: http://www.machinepolitick.com , the Declarationist Art movement is accessible through the Liberatchik banner.
People keep asking for the new Czar's title. Here's my suggestion: I believe it will be Shepard Fairey, the "Liason for Public Discourse and the Arts"
[...] Ace, the National Endowment for the Arts is poised to metastasize I recently wrote a critique of the art community’s lack of dissent in the face of many [...]
[...] the proper role of the NEA. Comments [...]
Thank you Patrick for posting this information!!! I knew this was going to happen. I saw it coming a mile away. I saw pictures, paintings and statues of Obama displayed across the U.S. Have you noticed the carefully crafted Obama service commercials that play repeatedly on all stations! This is just the beginning folks!
National Endowment for the Arts received grants totalling $50 MILLION taxpayer dollars through the STIMULUS BILL….
click this link to see exactly how our taxpayer dollars have been spent with the Stimulus bill… BEWARE: You may experience nausea and severe vomitting! http://www.propublica.org/special/the-stimulus-pl...
[...] You can read the whole distressing piece, by Patrick Courrielche at Big Hollywood. [...]
This is not new: http://www.internationalposter.com/country-primer...
[...] Big Hollywood Patrick Courrielche has a disturbing account of the politicization of the NEA and the attempt to convert it into a partisan body to advance [...]
Look on the picture here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_realism
Isn't it similar to the poster above?
The main lesson an artist should learn is that however talented you are, following party line will destroy your originality and just turn you into another bureaucrat on monthly salary, working in Ministry of truth.
[...] I quote from a blog post by Patrick Courrielche? On Thursday August 6th, I was invited by the National Endowment for the Arts to attend a [...]
This initiative by the NEA sounds exactly like the formation of the Artists Union in the USSR. It was put together in the 1930s to ensure that artists conformed to the Socialist Realist aesthetic and that published artists stayed "on message" with the policies of the Politburo. If you didn't conform then you did not get published or shown. I found a quote by Stalin that I recalled reading some time ago:
"The production of souls is more important than the production of tanks…. And therefore I raise my glass to you, writers, the engineers of the human soul." (Joseph Stalin, Speech at home of Maxim Gorky, 26 October 1932)
When viewed in this context this NEA conference call sounds more ominous than what another poster called a WPA project. This is the beginning of an official propaganda machine orchestrated by the ruling party to stamp out dissent. Not that it is not happening already on a voluntary basis by the Party's "useful idiots" in the media…
[...] http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/pc…k-courrielche/ [...]
I agree.
[...] White House seems to be trying to recruit NEA grant recipients in the arts to act as his propaganda arm. What if Bush had done this? I guess we can look forward to more wonderful art reminiscent of [...]
[...] Big Hollywood » Blog Archive » The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion? A machine that the NEA helped to create could potentially be wielded by the state to push policy. Through providing guidelines to the art community on what topics to discuss and providing them a step-by-step instruction to apply their art form to these issues, the “nation’s largest annual funder of the arts” is attempting to direct imagery, songs, films, and literature that could create the illusion of a national consensus. This is what Noam Chomsky calls “manufacturing consent.” [...]
[...] how would you feel, my liberal friends, if President Bush setup a conference call of NEA funded artists for this purpose: “to help lay a new foundation for growth, focusing on core areas of the recovery agenda – [...]
[...] 2009 Mission creep sets in over at the National Endowment for the Arts. What could possibly go wrong? …I was invited by the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) to take part in a conference [...]
[...] But the government has a plan to give away our tax dollars to people who call themselves “artists”, but are otherwise unemployable, so that these “artists” can promote the Democratic Party’s agenda. [...]
[...] Same author/artist, two days ago: [...]
Good lord. You people really do drink the conspiracy kool-aid, don't you? You guys need to relax. This guy is a politician. He is pandering to the artistic community. He worked for the NEA for gods sake. Don't you know guys understand he has to do this to keep the perception that art is for art's sake and not controlled by our government? People are so effin' dumb.
[...] to promote the arts is a good thing, right? Well, before you judge me please read the following article written by Patrick Courrielche . He was invited by the NEA to attend a conference call with the White House Office of Public [...]
Well…the current President was elected based on a well organized advertising campaign; he used simple artwork and logos to further an image of progress. This was not unlike the Communist use of constructivist and realist imagery of the Stalinist era of the USSR to try to get the masses to believe that there was progress under their system.
The difference here is that it was a political campaign to forward the agenda, which is fine by me even though I saw past the message. The problem now is that they are no longer campaigning for election, they are now THE power structure and are acting as though only their ideology is legitimate; not unlike the Bolsheviks.
Remember, the October 1917 revolution was NOT the communist revolution, it was a move to put in place a democratic republic. The system was subverted and substituted by the Communists and after much bloodshed and the use of propaganda they took complete control.
State approved art then became part of the control mechanism. If literature, art and even news are all orchestrated by the ruling party then those who do not have a strong will to say "NO!" and look further will go along with the message. This is why they can get away with marginalizing the Tea Party message in the media without causing an uprising; most people just go along with the herd.
The gist of the conference call was not so much pandering to the art community. Rather it was a call for the art community to conform to the ideology of the ruling party through a government agency, the NEA. The herd will go along as long as there is a positive message no matter the real agenda.
Mdiddy, you are right, nobody knows where this NEA policy will lead. Just like we don't know where the government taking over America's largest automaker will lead. We don't know where the govt. owning the banking industry will take us. We don't know where a nationalized HealthCare system will lead. We don't know where Obama's National Civilian Security Force will lead. We don't know where astronomical amounts of debt will lead us. We don't know where Cap and Trade legislation will lead us. We don't know where all these President Appointed Czars will lead us. We don't know where a President who is in bed with the unions and community organizations will lead us. I'm sure I'm missing a few here. continued
Each of these on their own merit is not that terrible, but I ask you. At what point on that list do YOUR REASON and ANALYTICAL skills begin to see a disturbing trend in things and say "hey something smells fishy here"? But then again maybe I'm the one here who is "weak minded and too reluctant or simply incapable of doing the hard tedious work of figuring out the complexities of the world around me". Thank goodness we have you and Obama to watch over us.
That is your opinion. Does anyone seriously believe that this administration is going to turn the United States of America into a Stalin's USSR? You guys must be REAL fun at parties.
It's "bear with us" not "bare with us" — an invitation to help carry a load, not participate in an orgy. I want to see "bear with us" written a hundred times on the blackboard by the time I get back from lunch.
[...] Big Hollywood, The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion? …On Thursday August 6th, I was invited by the National Endowment for the Arts to attend a [...]
Well, I see your point. In your jaunty poem, you've taught me just how wrong I am and how articulate, intelligent, and correct you are about everything. And with a -69 score, obviously lots of people agree with you because you bring equally coherent postings to other topics as well.
Bravo!
You should call that "Obama's all Wee-Weed Up."
It is my opinion that the leadership of the Obama administration have taken pages from the playbooks of Stalin, Hitler, Mao and many others; not to mention the writings of Saul Alinsky. They may not be able to pull off a USSR style government at this time. I forget where I heard it but someone recently said that Communism is what happens when the revolution is violent but Socialism is gradual.
Hitler's Germany was a Socialist state brought about gradually and legally within the framework of the government that was installed after WWI. Lenin, Stalin and Mao took power through violent revolution. In all cases art was a necessary component of thought control by the ruling parties.
I see what is happening here in the USA as a gradual dismantling and substitution by Socialists aided by many including artists. I am also an artist of sorts, a degree in Fine Art Photography. Because of my views I am not part of the local "art community" since I do not believe in Socialism. Local artists that I know are part of the same mindset as the woman in a campaign rally clip that basically said that "if we help him, he'll help us" and that we won't have to worry about paying our mortgages or putting gas in our cars. There is no ideal of self reliance, only an idea that they are entitled to self expression even if no one will buy it; hence the desire to be part of a Socialist society where they will be taken care of. They do not look at the total picture; they do not look at the past since it is from before they were born. The sad thing is that if their Socialist paradise does come to pass they will lose self expression because individuality is counter to control of the masses.
[...] in Obama fascism Nice, using the NEA to develop a flank for your leftist brownshirt army: Big Hollywood
it's "bear with me" not "bare with me" My earlier comment pointing this out was apparently too cute and was therefore moderated.
"Reichskulturkammer" – Joseph Goebbels
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_art )
[...] and Joseph Goebbels in particular. Drudge has a link to an article by Patrick Courrielche, titled “The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion?” in which he reports on a conference call that he participated in. “On Thursday August 6th, I was [...]
Frankly, I'm surprised this didn't happen sooner, say during the first days of the Obama Administration. Had it been done then, it probably would have stayed below radar, what with the MSM busy trying to out do each other in praising The One and the Right media still shaking off the effects of being steamrolled in November.
[...] is … disturbing: “… I was invited by the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) to take part in a [...]
Do you really think that "…the public will recognize this and the artists will lose all crdibility?" The same stupid electorate put him in office in the first place. And they elected Him in spite of all that stuff that was out there about Him for months and months.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Would_you_say_bare_with...
Obama sounds more and more like Hitler every day (oh and by the way, I am an associate professor in an art department).
This is a great post, Patrick. Thank you.
Dude? The ACLU has never accepted a dime of taxpayer money. It's 100% donation and membership funded and is entirely private. It isn't funded and isn't "certified". Liberals (and conservatives who know what side their bread is buttered on) have been funding it with their own moneys all the way along. Please be less of an idiot next time, OK?
Good job explaining all of that succinctly Greg. Some people would go on believing 'guest' simply because they didn't understand the facts. I wish there were more people with influence articulating these points as well as you are. There's so much drivel and emotionalism out there clogging up the internet and news broadcasts, it's no wonder people have no idea what's going on.
The bottom line is, the government, regardless of affiliation or agenda should not be funding the arts, let alone encouraging a specific subject matter. I am a political artist, so I understand where you are coming from. I am a Libertarian and that is unforgivable in the art community. Add to it a decent understanding of history and America's fight for independence and you really make people angry.
I've been told there's no market for my work. In the Atlanta art community, that is likely true. However, I am not only determined to build a market, but I am going to take as many willing Conservatives with me as I can. Rest assured that I will produce as much propaganda for Liberty and exposure of Liberal lies as I possibly can. We are not alone, and I intend to prevail.
You can't reason with people like 'guest', although I applaud you for putting forth the facts for people who might otherwise march to his tune. I'm sure he feels, like many Liberals I know, that this is a moral issue. You cannot reason with someone who believes that any means, any sacrifice, any use of force is justified because it is for the greater good.
Thanks for the moral support here. I really have no influence in the "art community" in my area; or any influence anywhere it seems <hah>. As a clarification about myself I have not practiced my craft in a professional manner for over 15 years; I decided that I would rather have hourly employment to pay the bills than starve, try for government grants or prostitute myself for patronage.
Among those who I still associate with in the local "art community", most are outsiders as they have gotten actual paying jobs as graphic designers and such which of course makes them "sell outs", just as my understanding of the big picture makes me a "right wing reactionary".
I am even persona non-grada with my own brother-in-law as he is a public school teacher and part of "Americans United for Change". To illustrate this I took bro to task over the pre-election comparisons between B. Obama and JFK. I pointed out that the last President that in any way resembled JFK was good old Ronald Reagan. That caused his head to explode in a quite entertaining way. My argument was that JFK inherited a faltering economy and introduced tax cuts and a shrinking of the government in order to foster economic growth; Reagan did the same only more so and we saw prosperity as never before. I told him that B. Obama was really another Lyndon Johnson/FDR with a bit of Vladmir Lenin mixed in and that we would see nothing but an increased government control of the individual, loss of liberty and a shrinking of the economy. His only response was the party line "it isn't Socialism, it is just spreading the wealth". To keep the peace we no longer speak to each other…a sort of Cold War within the family with the Iron Curtain about six blocks to the east of my house. To counter him I threw in with the first Tea Party organizers in my area.
Back on message here. In these posts I am not saying that the Obama administration is actually trying to put in place a Soviet/Nazi control of art/propaganda; however the moves that they are making can create a system that can and will be abused by either THIS administration or a subsequent administration. I had the same qualms about the Patriot Act, Homeland Security and some other G.W. Bush policies; on their face they seemed to be fine at the time to many but I felt that these mechanisms could be abused in the future.
President Obama may not be another Lenin/Stalin/Mao/Hitler/Franco/Mussolini but care should be taken with initiatives like this NEA conference call since the next President could be even worse. Think Hugo Chavez….
Can anyone say Propaganda machine. See Nazi Germany for details.
To your mind the gov't is no different from an insurance company?
Really?
Seriously?
Are the hairs on my arms standing up yet? Are you kidding? The hairs on my arms, the hairs on the back of my neck, the hairs all over my body are on full alert. This is the scariest administration in my lifetime.
Every day we hear about a new assault on our pocketbooks or liberties or both. One day it's the FCC chief of diversity who believes it's government's responsibility "to advance the equal capability of citizen discourse" and wants a more powerful FCC, more robust public broadcasting, and greatly increased monitoring of, among other things, political commentary and advertising on privately owned radio and television.
On another, it's Obama's "green jobs czar," a self-proclaimed communist and "rowdy black nationalist," who, like so many other radicals, has embraced environmentalism as the means to "reorder" society in accordance with his vision of social justice.
(cont.) And then there's the guy in charge of the administration's science policy who has argued on behalf of compulsory abortion, mandatory adoption of babies born to single women, development of a sterilant that could be put in the water supply and a "Planetary Regime — sort of an international superagency for population, resources, and environment" policy and enforcement.
And let's not forget the president's advisor on health care, a doctor who thinks medical decisions should be made based on the optimum benefit to the collective rather than the individual being treated and that doctors take the Hippocratic Oath "too seriously."
And today we have the attempted co-opting of the art community to use public money to create propaganda meant to advance the administration's agenda.
These are dangerous people and must. be. stopped.
[...] This month, it happened. Patrick Courrielche, former employee of the NEA Director of Communication, participated on a conference call on August 10th set up by the NEA, the White House Office of Public Engagement, and United We Serve. On the call [...]
[...] The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion? [Patrick Courrielche] was invited by the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) to take part in a conference call that invited a group of rising artist and art community luminaries “to help lay a new foundation for growth, focusing on core areas of the recovery agenda – health care, energy and environment, safety and security, education, community renewal.” [...]
You are absolutely right on all points. Your analogies are perfect for many reasons. The most frightening thing about all of this is the fact that people are missing the big picture. This did not happen over night. It is bigger than Obama and has been building for generations. It does not matter who is in charge, or why they are abusing their power. The loss of liberty and property is inexcusable regardless. I genuinely believe that the entire political structure in America needs to change because there is no significant difference between the major parties.
Obama is Bush is Clinton is FDR, ad infinitum. And on the subject of art: the 'sell out' mantra is a crutch and a tool to excuse lack of talent or initiative. Art is a business like anything else, and I'll starve before I'll take someone else's money through the force of government.
I agree with everyone else Patrick. This problem America has is no longer left and right, black and white….it is about good and evil and as you well know, if you go against The EVIL One (present administration) you will be labeled and ridiculed….You must be prepared for it though, since you chose to go out on a limb and speak out for what is right and just. God Bless you man and God Bless America!
[...] 3. Is the Arts Endowment too heavily into partisan politics? [...]
You know, in my small little hicksville of a country, Governments of all political persuasions have been misappropriating taxpayer funds for self-promoting propaganda for years, more typically in the form of advertising campaigns than artwork, but same principle. They get attacked for it, and it contributes to people voting them out later on. Which is how things should be, in a liberal democracy based on checks and balances.
That doesn't mean the politicians in question are Nazis, or Communists, or Satanists. I'm sorry, it just really doesn't. I know you've got that Bill of Rights and its important and all, and I was inspired by the Jefferson Monument more than any other thing I saw while in America recently, but please… get some perspective.
I mean this devastatingly well written critique in the article is tarnished by an overwhelmingly hysterical tone to the comment thread, much more so than even your standard internet forum. While the author is clearly no right-wing nut job, most of the readers seem to be.
I hope Obama loses votes over this at the next election – his team has screwed up here and should pay a price. More importantly, I pray those making comparisons to Orwell or 1939 never actually have to live under a Totalitarian regime and learn the absurdity of their hyperbole the hard way.
Then again I spent a lot of time trying to convince my left leaning Australian friends and family that George W Bush really wasn't evil incarnate, either…. probably just wasting my time I guess.
[...] Now they’re using the National Endowment For The Arts to gather artists of all stripes to use their art for the good of the state. Also recall that this is a President that wants to set up a “civilian security force” [...]
[...] Courrielche also wrote up his experiences for Big Hollywood. [...]
[...] 1. How good are hand-held computers at chess these days? 2. Robin Hanson thanks lusty old men. 3. Is the Arts Endowment too heavily into partisan politics? 4. I’ve always wanted to speak Swedish. 5. AIG: the new bubble? Yikes! 6. Paper towels > [...]
[...] take this bit of news from the NEA as reported on FoxNews. First hand account also here A 39-year-old Los Angeles film producer is accusing the National Endowment for the Arts of [...]
[...] Courrielche also wrote up his experiences for Big Hollywood. [...]
[...] Big Hollywood » Blog Archive » The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion? "Artists shouldn’t be used as tools of the state to help create a climate amenable to their positions, which is what appears to be happening in this instance. If the art community wants to tackle those issues on its own then fine. But tackling them shouldn’t come as an encouragement from the NEA to those they potentially fund at this coincidental time. " (tags: article editorial government politics art culture) [...]
[...] 3. Is the Arts Endowment too heavily into partisan politics? [...]
[...] 3. Is the Arts Endowment too heavily into partisan politics? [...]
this makes me shudder
The Republicans should have kicked the NEA and it's evil twin the CBP out of the federal budget when they had the chance.
Ask yourself, how good does the art and architecture of the Soviet Union or the 3rd Reich look now? Absurd? Overblown? it's trash.
Guest, it depends on how you define "positive". I define it as "things that don't take away my freedom and other peoples' motivation." The Republicans support affordable healthcare and wise environmentalism — what fool does not? — but not the insanity that Obama advocates. Instead, they prefer the Whole Foods brand of healthcare and more of a stewardship over the land than a fanatical "preserve nature at any cost" attitude that costs jobs and lives.
Now let's look at your definition of totalitarianism: "all-embracing ideology" – Obamania is what we conservatives call it. To some of the liberals I know, it's damn near a church.
"propaganda" & "state-controlled media" – The FCC's new Diversity Officer is planning ways to force talk radio into silence, and there are other movements afoot to put control of the Internet under the White House. Fox News is the lone conservative holdout on TV; nearly all the print media belongs to Obama. Take out talk radio and the internet, and you have it under control. Besides, when do you think a newspaper bailout will be seriously considered?
"single party that controls the state" – um, duh, who's in charge of the White House and Congress right now? The Republicans are actually being locked out of meetings, their voices being restricted to "just vote yea on our bill and go away."
"personality cult" – did you actually LOOK at the Obama iconograpy? I live in Hawaii; I can't get away from the crap. Good grief, he's often depicted with a friggin' halo.
"Regulation and restriction of free discussion and criticism" – How about the "rat out your neighbors" email that was recently discontinued? Or the desire of Obama for his opponents to just shut up and let him get the job done? Or we can just go back to the FCC Diversity Officer again and his clearly expressed intent to eliminate conservative talk radio.
"Use of mass surveillance" – lot of emails went out just recently from David Axelrod, many to people who had never shared email w/ the White House; where'd he get them? Or how about the universal medical card — a nearly identical idea to the universal ID card the Libs so trashed a few years ago? I have little faith that mass surveillance to identify "dissenters" is not in use right now.
"State terrorism" – depends on how you define it, but I'd say dropping voter intimidation cases against the New Black Panthers would qualify for a start, as well as the scattered cases of the SEIU intimidating folks at town halls. It certainly seems to represent the seeds of totalitarianism.
Totalitarianism doesn't just appear overnight; like any massive CHANGE, it takes time and preparation, the development of a new government structure, the careful cultivation of the masses. What did Nazism look like at first? Not so bad, really. The Russian October Revolution was originally a democratic revolution. The communist takeover of China took well over a decade before its revolution occurred. Full-blown totalitarianism looks exactly what you have described in your definition; but like dye added to water, the subtle changes that bring about totalitarianism only color things a little at a time (see "boiling frogs.")
None of the above items are well-developed as of yet; but taken as a whole, it sure looks like the seeds of totalitarianism are being planted right now. I hope I'm wrong. I'm looking at this from the clear side of the two-way mirror, and I don't like what I"m seeing at all.
Compare that to Bush — who of the above criteria matches only "use of mass surveillance" – and that in a limited manner for a very good reason. These CHANGEs scare me — and they should.
bear with me, that is…?
link forwarded with comment, to http://www.whitehouse.gov/CONTACT/
comment:
"you slime."
[...] Ce n’est plus le gouvernement qui aide les Arts, ce sont les Arts au service du gouvernement… Goebels n’aurait pas fait mieux… The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion? [...]
EXACTLY, John. It simply smells of OVERREACH. I worked hard for the Obama campaign. But, the HOPE was/is for a more ethical/moral way, in EVERY way. The pendulum point dare NOT be missed by anyone.
HJ BOTT
[...] Should the NEA Promote the Obama Agenda? “Do you think it is the place of the NEA to encourage the art community to address issues currently under legislative consideration?” Published: August 31, 2009 Filed Under: What I’m Reading Tags: arts : atlantic : Books : Conservatism : culture : delicious : Government : health : Health Care : liberalism : market : nea : new_criterion : Obama : Progressivism : What I’m Reading Leave a Comment Name: Required [...]
[...] the full resources, power and authority of the White House. Lastly, you have Patrick Courrielche informing us of the NEA co-opting artists to promote controversial Obama legislation and policies through the [...]
[...] It’s amazing how times change. BTW Obama has the NEA for the creation of nation-wide propaganda: Big Hollywood Blog Archive The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion? __________________ the1sen: why move forward with design when you can recreate a monstrosity [...]
[...] August 25th, I published an article discussing a conference call hosted by the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA), the White House [...]
[...] August 25th, I published an article discussing a conference call hosted by the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA), the White House [...]
[...] It’s amazing how times change. BTW Obama has the NEA for the creation of nation-wide propaganda: Big Hollywood Blog Archive The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion? Card, perhaps you are confusing dissent with shouting and disruption. I found no definitions [...]
You make my point:
"propaganda disseminated through the state-controlled mass media"
I didn't say this had all the hallmarks of totalitarianism, but to be more accurate, this specific situation is a totalitarian tactic.
And it's not about promoting "positive things", but specifically about an agenda "from the House that is White"
It may seem they are speaking in generalities, but the intent is clear – the statement "What that looks like legally?…bare with us as we learn the language so that we can speak to each other safely… “ is nothing but a verbal wink-and-nod.
[...] it stop being art, and start being [...]
Look everyone the DastupidVoteforOduma
Looks like he is also danonMaui!
I am still love his other name best: daichiro. This one is special. Daichiro is japanese for 4th son. So we can call him the Dumbest 4th son.
Fits with so many names!
[...] August 25, I published an article discussing a conference call hosted by the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA), the White House [...]
Anyone see the announcement that BO is speaking to our children while they are at school on Sept. 9Th??
One line of the article says something about 'why is it important for you to listen to the president and to our congressmen?' You gotta read this crap. How about…"why is it important for THEM to listen to US ????"
Keep your kids out of school that day. Don't want them getting used to seeing our King up on the screen everyday…feels a bit Hussein to me. Maybe we could decorate the insides of our schools with this fab art work? I think my daughter is getting a sniffle. My son is home schooled this year, thought we would just try it and see how it goes. Better than I expected. Looks like next year BOTH kids will be home learning about what is truth so long as the government allows us to.
All of the foregoing and following comments are simply PERSPECTIVE & AGENDA. The WPA before was as ridden with coteries as the NEA today. This does not mean I advocated elimination of the NEA but it really is overreaching the original intent. Please let the artists ventilate WITHOUT NEA propaganda agendas.
HJ BOTT
By the way, wanted to mention a KILMARLEY email about this current brouhaha. Certainly some acidic hate flying therein.
HJ BOTT
Is anyone still questioning the fact that Barack Hussein Obama is a dictator???
THANK YOU PATRICK FOR THE COURAGE YOU HAVE DISPLAYED. THANKS FOR BRINGING TRUTH TO THE FOREFRONT. PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE AFRAID TO SPEAK TRUTH AND EMPOWER US WITH KNOWLEDGE TO FIGHT TO RESTORE OUR REPUBLIC. MY PRAYERS AND CHEERS ARE WITH YOU AND TO YOU!!
I'm an artist and musician, and I think the NEA should NOT BE FUNDED!!! Make your own way in life, Liberals!!! I'm not liberal, but love Art. I hate this propaganda crap. Obama is a fascist/socialist. And all you "free-thinking, tree-hugging Obama-worshiping wannabes" are a sad bunch. You love liberal-freedom, liberal-womens rights, and to hell with those truly suffering women all over the world. You make me sick and ashamed to have to share the term "artist" with you. Now go paint us a "chavez" and "castro" painting, so you can fawn all over that crap also!!! You liberals believe in conspiracy theories regarding the govt, and yet, LOVE BIG GOVT.!!!!!!! If you have a problem with what I said: guitar1norm@aol.com I don't run
RIGH-ON!!
[...] Courrielche reveals at Big Hollywood that he participated in a teleconference call in which the National Endowment for the Arts [...]
Maybe we can just torture these artists into participating.
[...] Courrielche reveals at Big Hollywood that he participated in a teleconference call in which the National Endowment for the Arts –the [...]
[...] sent me this link which links to this Reason piece by the same author which I read first because it’s shorter. [...]
I thought Propaganda Minister Josef Goebbels died years ago. Deja vu WWII.
Well done, young man. Just saw you on the Glenn Beck Program and looked you up on line to read your article. I am glad you heard those little hairs on your arm. Carry on; you are doing just fine.
[...] National Endowment of the Arts that Corrielche sat in on and recorded. He wrote about the call at Big Hollywood not long ago. On Thursday August 6th, I was invited by the National Endowment for the Arts to [...]
[...] long article on the call — and what it may or may not portend — was then reported by Patrick Courrielche, who says he is a filmmaker and marketers, on the websit…, a notoriously far-right-wing, anti-government, anti-Obama free-for-all. For context, last February [...]
Patrick…thank you for your courage! The White House has jammed the stimulus bill, bailouts, omnibus bill, gm and chrysler down our throats and now that Americans have had it and are marching against DC and Obama the White House is using the National Endowment for the Arts to jam more bankrupting bills down our throats!
White House! Get a grip! Americans do not want any health, energy, cap and trade, environment and education bills passed until we get back on our fit! Americans want the White House to stop spending money we do not have! And to use this to their way is so low….Obama better get on national television at once and apology to all American people for using this power to try to change the way they think to pass his bills!
Pat………you are a genuine American hero. You and your family will always be in our prayers.
Those are great posters. I mean, yeah, art really speaks a lot louder than any form of media.
[...] stunning. But, as with the cancer of socialist corruption everywhere, it is never enough. Now Obama is completely politicizing the National Endowment for the Arts, turning it into a Ministry… The Sovietization of America is the [...]
its time for a reality check –
The indoctrination of our children and grandchildren is about to begin in earnest:
President Obama to make unprecedented address to all public school students on September 8, 2009.
The "Teaching Ambassador Fellows, U.S. Department of Education" has even come up with a "Menu of Classroom Activities" to prepare our innocent PreK-6 children for his address:
President Obama’s Address to Students Across America September 8, 2009
http://tiny.cc/wg1Kq
Never before has the phrase "Government Schools" seemed more appropriate!
I guess this partnering of the Obama Admin with the National Endowment of the Arts is to produce "art" (propaganda) for ALL the masses. We are all about to be indoctrinated.
Patrick, thank you for being so brave- my husband and I watched your story on Glenn Beck today. This country needs more people like you- thank you for bringing this story to light.
[...] community consultant” Patrick Courrielche, who supports those Obama Joker posters, the NEA organized a recent conference call to assemble an army of artists who will maybe possibly (hopefully?) use their work to inspire service in key social arenas, such as health [...]
[...] Courrielche also wrote up his experiences for Big Hollywood. [...]
so this dude is mad because he was included in the process? I dont get it. If you dont want to make art about a policy then dont, why shit on the fact that you were included on a conference call for the NEA who gets GOVT money? His fear is that a right wing administration can have meetings with artists and sway them to make work favoring a right-wing policy? It's called Hollywood, they already have it. I doubt they would get the same list of artists, and who's to say if this didnt work it would usher in a more progressive party? Agendas evolve, what's this guy so paranoid about? Instead of subverting this group he'd rather throw his arms up at the beginning and call foul. I dont think that gets you anywhere than just a few pats on the back by idealists.
[...] Once I have some time, I would like to ellaborate on this post; however, this article and issue was so unbleivable to me, I wanted to at least post a link to it… The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion? [...]
Lisa, funny you should mention a law regulating radio stations with dissenting voices. The new Diversity Czar, Mark Lloyd, will be taking care of that. He's using the backdoor to the 'fairness doctrine' to achieve a worse end. What he has in mind for cable news and conservative talk radio will boggle the mind. ixquik him. (rather than Google – they're partnering with Obama) Ixquick doesn't use your IP address.
Just read your post, Patrick and wanted to say thank you for coming forward with your voice in this. I think this part of your commentary is particularly poignant " … will you feel the same when the opposition has access to the same machine?" It doesn't matter what side you're on in these issues. Wrong is wrong. In this case, the NEA becomes a media / communication channel that's on the precipice of becoming a political mouthpiece. This is no different from a government takeover of any other media channel. It's despicable, and even as an artist, it makes me wonder if the NEA should exist at all.
[...] week, Courrielche wrote a story where he detailed a creepy conference call with the NEA where government officials were encouraging artists to use their skills to promote the Obama [...]
[...] someone give me another explanation for what is going on here! Read more about it here: Big Hollywood: National Endowment for the Art of persuasion, or watch the Glenn Beck clip with film producer Patrick [...]
Thank you for the great article, and for bringing this to our attention!
It is unbelievable! I can not believe this how is our federal tax-dollars are being used!
I think it is high-time, as citizens, that we demand the sixteenth amendment and federal income tax, be repealed!
We need taxes to be managed at state level, and the Federal government can them justify their needs to each state; at which point, we can begin to have our sovereignty back, and end this madness.
Thank you for coming out and exposing the truth of the proposal set before you from the White House and the NEA. You are a hero to the arts community. I knew within "3 seconds" of seeing the Obama posters that they were merely reproductions of the the Postmodern War Era posters. You have my support.
Here's an article posted by AIGA that had me seeing "red."
http://www.aiga.org/content.cfm/hockey-moms-deser...
Thank you for speaking out, Patrick. I watched you on Glenn Beck's show Tuesday night. I agree, artists shouldn't be used as tools of the state. We now see that the arts played a big part in his win.
I hope this backfires on him and artists across the country produce anti-Obama art! For the record, I boycott all entertainers — in any art — that have aided and abetted this gestapo-like takeover, along with those who continue to enable this administration's agenda. Many artists that I used to enjoy watching or listening to are history to me, and I will never support them again. That is, unless they apologize profusely. : ) They KNOW they influence people's decisions; e.g. voting.
I want to be able to "speak safely." I don't feel that way since this admin took over. Like you said, at NO time in the past has our gov't requested the help of the NEA to further it's agenda, especially when it's an issue that's being vehemently debated.
Many blessings to you, sir. You have a bright future. I enjoy your writings and will continue to follow and support you.
Amazing and ridiculously brilliant article. The Glenn Beck appearance yesterday was chilling, as an artist. I am in shock, but kind of not. Thank you.
[...] Read more at Big Hollywood [...]
Thank you for setting an example for the rest of us and having the courage to speak out & share the truth! If the White House feels comfortable telling your industry how & what they should design & produce to promote their agenda & shape the way society should think…. I'm wondering who else have they done this with?
I'm sure many people think what a privilege to be called on by the White House to promote & change minds to help push their agenda…. But forgetting, this is NOT the place of any administration unless you WORK directly for them & you're on the payroll!
If we allow any administration to have the comfort level to make suggestions on how we should promote their agenda only leads to control & loss of freedom on all levels
[...] Has now come to America. Now the NEA (funded by tax dollars) will be promoting artists to create works “… to promote a more civically engaged America and celebrate how the arts can be used for a positive change!” No, that’s not a conflict of interest in the least… heck, I even have an artist I can recommend to them! They’re gonna have to come up with a catchy name, though. I do have a suggestion… it might need a little tweaking, maybe shorten it a bit. They could go with “The Ministry of Truth,” but Orwell’s already spinning in his grave, so that’s probably out… any faster and he’d probably start generating his own magnetic field. [...]
I am Ill!! Atlas has not just shrugged, he has nose dived!!!
The NEA receives a hell of a lot more money from private charity, grants, and endowments than it receives in federal funding… so I see no reason why the NEA needs to continue to be UNconstitutionally subsidized by taxpayers anyhow. Cease all UNconstitutional funding to the NEA so they can promote whatever agenda they want. Using taxpayer funds to promote an agenda in this manner is yet ANOTHER disgusting ploy by the Obamanation to solidify their $hittiness as an administration.
Thank you for telling the truth, I hope ABc,NBc cover this
[...] to promote the Democrats Agenda. As Patrick Courrielche points out in Big Hollywood, “The NEA was created by the Congress of the United States and President Lyndon B. Johnson in 1965 as …” not as some propaganda arm, of the White House, to promote the Democrats (and the [...]
[...] supports the President’s policies. That is pure propaganda and wrong. You’re talking about this–Big Hollywood
When do the Obama Youth Rallies begin? After Obama addresses America's elementary school students, he should direct the NEA to come up with posters supporting his legislative agendas, so they can march along with their SEIU pals in a parade.
This is disgusting…
Patrick, I first learned of your critique last night after hearing for the first time about Obama's Sept 8 live speech and "learning materials" directed at my school children. I am furious! Thank you for the brave position you've taken, despite the inevitable backlash from SOME. While I did not vote for Obama, I have been willing to give him time to demonstrate his objectives. This information has sent me over the edge! Using artists to advance a government's agenda smacks of propaganda, no two ways about it. While I may not always agree with an artist's political POV, I will defend his/her individual right to freely express it. The idea of our government working hand in hand with some of the leading influencers of popular culture is outrageous. We likely wouldn't ever know of this travesty if not for your courage.
By the way, BILL5321 is a real intellect, NOT. Must be a right wing-nut comedian on the fox. But, then again, this debate has really surfaced another squadron of HATEMONGERS. Very sadly funny.
HJ BOTT
By the way, guitar1norm, the greatest expansion of deficits and big-gov, since FDR, came under Reagan and the Shrub JUNTA.
People, please just post some FACTS not FACTOIDS from the fox. This NEA approach IS overreach to be sure; but, please stay within the parameters of the argument.
EVERYTHING posted, including this post, falls within the bounds of PERSPECTIVE & AGENDA. It only takes a few words in a post to see the P&A.
HJ BOTT
By the way, phonecian, the NEA has ALWAYS been a tool of every administration. Just as voting; to wit, there is no way you cannot vote. But, PATRICK is now a tool for the fox. The CIA, since its inception, has USED artists, most often unwittingly but used.
HJ BOTT
[...] it all here. In short, Sergant denied that he had anything to do with the infamous invitation described by artist Patirck Courrielche. These administration people are scary. They use the power of the [...]
ALI RZA, excellent response amid the foxites.
HJ BOTT
[...] I prefer my government to be small and out of the way and fairly unobtrusive in the manner it interacts with my life. I understand the need for some taxes to fund some of the essentials (defense, law enforcement, the building and maintenance of some highways maybe) but otherwise I’d like to not be overly reminded of its existence. But now it looks like there’s a movement to insert a little bit more of the government’s view of things into the art world. [...]
First of all we can't afford the NEA, NPR, or PBS any longer. Next of all government funding is no longer needed for these industries. Kick those chicks out of the nest and make them fly!
Last of all, there is something totally subversive about using one's own tax dollars against them when they take a contrary view, no matter what side of the aisle you sit. Patrick is correct in this. They had better see the bend in the road because the pendulum always swings.
this article is almost as dumb as our government. almost.
To Mr. Sergant– I was always told the roll of artistic expression was to always question, espescially things involving the government, guess Yoshi is now the Government's official bitch.
[...] week Patrick Courrielch, an independent artist, participated in a conference call with the White House, the subject of [...]
[...] Mr. Courrielche’s blog is available here. It’s slightly long, but definitely worth the read. [...]
[...] Anyway, the best place to start is probably Mr. Courrielche blog entry that started it all. It’s a bit long, and unfortunately he doesn’t have the audio posted with it, but it’s well worth a read. Click here to check it out. [...]
[...] Sergant, the Director of Communications for the National Endowment for the Arts; … The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion?The people running the conference call and rallying the group to get active on these issues were [...]
"Lili Riefenstahl" does not exist.
As a supporter of the arts community I must question now if I can be assured that my donations will be used to further the work of up and coming artists, musicians, dancers, poets, etc., or will they fund the designer of the Maoist like attire we will all be wearing in the next decade? Patrick, is this a matter for the Inspector General to investigate since monies from the NEA coffers would now be used to further support the Democratic Party and Obama by theoretically holding the arts community hostage? He who holds the purse strings………
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[...] On August 6, 2009, the NEA hosted a conference call with prominent artists in the communities – and in it, they very clearly articulated their intentions to push Obama’s agenda through the arts. Now, if this was a privately funded organization, I say – go for it. It’s a free country (or at least, it was a free country), but no – this is an organization that receives tax payer funding, and nothing in the Constitution stipulates that tax dollars should be used for partisan agenda support. In fact, this very action is unconstitutional and the organizers of this conference call know the legal constraints placed on their existence by way of tax payer funding and acknowledge as such when they stated “We are just now learning how to really bring this community together to speak with the government. What that looks like legally?…bare with us as we learn the language so that we can speak to each other safely… “ Of course the NEA caters to people of all ages, but let’s not forget that the NEA is responsible for movements such as Rock The Vote – which is geared toward the youth who are just learning about their civic obligations to voting. Ref: http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/pcourrielche/2009/08/25/the-national-endowment-for-the-art-of-pers... [...]
This is the silliest thing I have read in a long time….no one has their facts straight. As an artist, I have always been informed about the NEA……most of the rest of the country has ignored it, because they are ignorant about art.
Good ole Fox…..anything to stir the mess…..and they are seldom telling the truth about issues. They just like to pull your chains, right-wingers: It gets watchers and commercial sales. Remember they are in business and they have found their niche: it is you and you are unwitting stooges.
MARTHA JANE has posted the most sensible comment since this mess started. Everyone, in the hate squadron simply wants to be, or follow, another Rush the fox. Ah! "Cabaret," "… money, money, money makes the world go round …." Again, its all PERSPECTIVE & AGENDA !$!$!$!
HJ BOTT
[...] reported by Patrick Courrielche on bighollywood.breitbart.com, the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) a federal agency staffed by the administration and the [...]
How is this any different from a company hiring an advertising agency? —using art as a tool to rally support for a company, its brand, its values, and ultimately its product? In the end, each and every American still has the choice of whether or not to support Obama’s policies, just like each American has the choice of whether or not to buy Apple computers, Volkswagon cars, or Nike Shoes. However, I suppose I wouldn't be too happy about my tax money paying the government’s advertising bill.
This brings up the age-old debate of using art as a tool to change public opinion in a calculated way. Should there be a line drawn between art and advertising? Can a creation be deemed “art” based on aesthetics alone?
The problem with this article and the vast majority of these comments is the assumption that a prescriptive approach to government funding of the arts inevitably translates into propaganda.
European governments – whose funding of the arts dwarfs that of our own – have been doing this for years, and I see none of the scenarios that these spooksters are evoking.
So before we go around screaming that the sky is falling, maybe we can take a look at the experience of other countries who are used to high levels of government funding, and the dynamics that ensue. None of them have the perfect answer, but I would argue that the balance that places like Germany or France have struck between state support and artistic freedom is healthier than ours.
I'll just give you one example, of a work by an artist commissioned by a museum which is actually part of the UK government, which would never have happened if all the fears expressed here were true:
http://www.tate.org.uk/britain/exhibitions/wallin...
This all smacks of Cult of Personality.
Anyone who disagrees image these portraits of Obama replaced with the same of George W Bush.
What would your reaction be then.
Any convoluted explanation you have is mere sophistry.
The NEA was surely created as a reaction to the popularity of the Beatles. Politicians looked at the Beatles and said "I wish I could create art that was that popular and profitable, but I can't so I'll get someone else to pay for it". You could see from the other side of the continent that someday the government would use this organization to propagandize the very citizens it holds in contempt.
[...] we shall just call “Alice,” alerted me to a rather interesting story on Big Hollywood penned by filmmaker and artist, Patrick [...]
First. The belief that the arts and government function completely apart from each other is a romantic one. The degree to which they influence one another varies. For example, one cannot simply create a work of art that breaks a state or federal law or worse which take the life of someone else in the name of "art". An individual's actions and productions are circumscribed by laws enforced by government.
Second. Now, it would be of greater significance for the Obama administration to set up a separate initiative to fund dialogic-based art projects, not one-sided propaganda, focusing on specific issues such as health care, projects which involve the participation of local communities. If change is what Obama seeks for the U.S., then positive, well-informed change must involve listening to the same communities Obama's change will affect, not imposing an idea of change.
How could an article like this have been written without mentioning the excellent government-commissioned artworks by hundreds of artists in all disciplines, from coast to coast, who worked for the WPA during the 1930s and 1940s to lift the nation out of the Depression? We're nearly in another one now and the programs being proposed are progressive ones that will help the general population, in much the same way FDR's policies did.
MARTHA JANE has posted one of the most sensible comments since this mess started. Everyone must also check-out dumuuzi's post for a sense of reality and comprehend David B's post.
HJ BOTT
[...] House emailing citizens to try to convince them of the president’s health care plans, and the White House contacting the National Endowment for the Arts to help the president is what is tainting the president’s [...]
[...] community.”. On August 25th, he posted an account of his participation in an invitation-only conference call enlisting artists to play the missionary for Obama’s policy agendas on” heath care, energy and environment, safety and security, [...]
Not sure how you concluded that NEA has never before encouraged artists to address or particpate in the debates of the day – The Arts of Democracy
Art, Public Culture, and the State (Casey Nelson Blake) shows pretty convincingly that the reverse is true – Duke Ellington's tours of Russia being an example of federally funded art that was intended to serve a distinctly political function.
But aside from the weak research that underlies this blog, I think it does identify two different functions of an NEA: we can create neutered art that steers away from controversy (this reminds me of the mindset that led to the creation of the misnamed "red delicious" apple); or one could argue that everyone benefits from art that is engaged, and particularly art that is engaged at the community level. I'd prefer the latter.
[...] has emerged that the USA’s National Endowment of the Arts (a government agency) has been encouraging the arts [...]
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[...] group (ACORN) has been convicted of election fraud. He also urged federal art grant recipients to promote his political [...]
Courrielche's comment, "Previously shackled with the controversy over the Serrano and Mapplethorpe images of 1989 that escalated to a debate over its very existence, the NEA needs to stay far away from any questions of impropriety." makes me much more fearful than the conference call he refers to in this article. The question of whether the NEA should serve as a tool for any administration's platform is an important one. But based on the comments of the NEA staff that this conference call was aimed at "bring[ing] [the arts] community together to speak with the government" is a sea change that needs to happen. The NEA will not be FUNDING any of the artists in this conference call if I understand the limits of their funding programs correctly. But dialogue? I think that can only be inspiring and interesting for all involved. Hopefully this conference call was created with a full understanding that the results would be beautifully unwieldy and, perhaps, even controversial and full of impropriety.
[...] We were encouraged to bring the same sense of enthusiasm to these “focus areas” as we had brought to Obama’s presidential campaign, and we were encouraged to create art and art initiatives that brought awareness to these issues. Throughout the conversation, we were reminded of our ability as artists and art professionals to “shape the lives” of those around us. The now famous Obama “Hope” poster, created by artist Shepard Fairey and promoted by many of those on the phone call, and will.i.am’s “Yes We Can” song and music video were presented as shining examples of our group’s clear role in the election. Continue to Article Here [...]
I couldn't care less about a conference call. The US constitution specifically states the only authorities granted to the federal government are specifically listed in the constitution. And it takes the next step also, if its not specifically in the constitution, the federal government does not have the authority, it is strictly prohibited.
The constitution does not mention "arts" anywhere, there fore, the government is prohibited from participation altogether. I'm not against this specific conference call, I'm against the entire concept of the NEA.
Social realism and fascist art are clearly great influences among the rebels without a clue. Seig heil, Obama!
Check out this link and see how socialism and the arts are connected!
http://www.socialismtoday.org/128/art.htm
Wow, this is a scary world we're living in today. We need balance in Washington.
LAZYPADAWAN & SOCALYN:
Artists do make it on their own. You think the cost of the NEA, equal to ONE Interstate cloverleaf, is actually subsidizing artists? Why don't SPORTS make it on their own? EVERY stadium in America has been subsidized almost to the extent that Halliburton's off-shore mercenary troops have been subsidized. If you know anything about history, you know artists have been USED & abused, with and without subsidy, through out all recorded time, as well as archeologically noted, but MOST artists attempt to raise the level of awareness of their time, with and without controversy; e.g., the near universal responses to the abuses of the C & w JUNTA, where America will spend the next ten years to find recovery. Or try Goya, if contemporania turns you off. Whatever, all commentaries herein are but PERSPECTIVE & AGENDA though most are even health ventilations. The art community strongly supported the OBAMA campaign no differently corporate (read, thru K-Street) sponsorship of the faux conservative arm (read, bigger government and spiraling debt like Reagan and the Bush dynasty brought about).
HJ BOTT
you guys are idiots
[...] would agree on is that government support of the arts shouldn’t be abused and turned into government propaganda. Yet: “…I was invited by the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) to take part in a [...]
Call me nutjob too…This is simply another step by this horrid administration for laying the groundwork of an eventual dictatorship…because the formula Hussein is using is straight out of the communist and nazi handbooks.
Here's Obama's master plan…Dull the senses ,bad mouth the oppositon ("Right wing nut-jobs"), silence the opposition (FCC's new "diversity czar" and his plans to fine private radio stations who do not offer 'what the public wants'), create a crisis that allows for loss of rights, creating "czars" , or as I call them, cronies, at every opportunity ,create a security force loyal to the president (Starts w/City Year, United We Serve) , and now this attempt to sway the lemmings from the arts into propaganda…My God people, this is so obvious…Shall I continue? How 'bout the slow elimination of God from the framework of our society (See the ACLU)? The indoctrination of our youth (Yesterdays attempted "outreach" to schoolchildren)…and worst of all…I've heard Obama's White House wants access to Myspacers, facebookers, twitter, etc (For What? To gather information on dissenters? BUT…It's not too late…we, by we I mean dems, G.O.P., indies…we can make the changes we need in 2012…if we don't , we're finished as the nation we all grew up to love!
[...] producer Patrick Courrielche wrote that the call turned out to be an effort to get participants to push the administration’s [...]
Nabokov, who knew a thing or two about dictators, said that portraits of leaders should never be larger than postage stamps.
[...] A recent blog post by Los Angeles-based artist Patrick Courrielche details an August 10, 2009, conference call hosted by the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA), the White House Office of Public Engagement, and United We Serve. The stated purpose of the call was to encourage a select group of artists “to help lay a new foundation for growth, focusing on core areas of the recovery agenda – health care, energy and environment, safety and security, education, community renewal.” According to Mr. Courrielche, the NEA and the White House were “steering the art community toward creating art on the very issues that are currently under contentious national debate; those being health care reform and cap-and-trade legislation.” See http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/pcourrielche/2009/08/25/the-national-endowment-for-the-art-of-pers…. [...]
Thanks so much for the informative and well-written article!!! Here is a letter Texas Senator John Cornyn wrote to Obama with regards to this article: http://texasgopvote.com/blog/white-house-encourag...
[...] More US politics, this time with some arts mixed in. I stumbled across this recently: The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion? In it, the author relates being on a conference call of “opinion leaders” in the arts, hosted [...]
This will make true art of Politics stand out that much more. If you are aware of the issues this will (and has)pushed artist's to create what will truely make people think. Since I am a right winged nut job artist I hope there is some great "underground" art that comes from this. Remember the "MAN" right now was at one time the outsider.
Art will inspire the next great movement and it will be in a totally diffrent direction than most think. Who will make this happen? Somebody in a room that has a feeling in their heart, this will happen without prompting from the government.
[...] Courrielche broke the story of these – to say the least – controversial NEA conference calls on August 25th, calls obviously designed to [...]
you are a despicable cretin. That you would go on Fox News and contribute to Glenn Beck's fanatical tirade against anything liberal or progressive, and that you would contribute to Yosi Sergant's removal shows what a moron you must be. You can congratulate yourself on contributing to knocking the arts' role in this country back into the stone age. We should all move to Europe, where people aren't so pathetically miseducated about government and socialism, to get away from idiots like you.
Wow, I definitely understand feeling skeptical about this NEA phone call, but I don't understand going on Glenn Beck about it. Talk about being used as a propaganda tool!
[...] conservative artist writing on the site Big Hollywood first complained that the official, later identified as Yosi Sargent, had been on a conference call with artists [...]
The United We Serve initiative asked *all* Americans to engage in community service and volunteerism, and focuses on 5 core service areas — health care, energy and environment, safety and security, education, and community renewal. Artists have long been involved in these community service areas — e.g., providing arts experiences for children in hospitals, leading mural projects in community renewal efforts, etc. The NEA was encouraging artists to take leadership by getting involved in community service. The NEA didn't say how the artists should promote a particular agenda or partisan viewpoint, or dictate the content of their work. I think the NEA was simply playing a role in encouraging artists to participate in a national initiative to foster volunteerism. Given that the NEA cannot actually make grants to individual artists (except in literature and folk arts), this was a way for the NEA to still reach out to artists. Is encouraging people to get involved in community service really such a point of contention? Don't you think this is a little carried away?
amen and thank you…
I really don't see what's wrong with the White House and the NEA turning to creative people to help them get their message out. Big Corporations do this everyday to make their brand more appealing to their target demographic and we don't seem to mind it so much when art and popular culture trends get appropriated and used to sell products. What's the big deal? I applaud the US government for realizing that we have a tremendous amount of creative talent in this country that needs to be utilized. It shows that they're not out of touch with what's happening with regards to social networking and the arts.
By the way, I have absolutely no respect for Patrick for going on Glen Beck's fear mongering reality distortion extravaganza. SERIOUSLY! The way he read a perfectly innocent email as though it were some sort of evil Nazi plot to take over the world is just laughable!
[...] Courrielche broke the story of these – to say the least – controversial NEA conference calls on August 25th, calls obviously designed to promote President Obama’s domestic agenda, especially health care. [...]
[...] the past weeks, Big Hollywood has posted articles on telephone conferences by the National Endowment for the Arts with artists [...]
[...] said his concerns rose from an Aug. 25 posting on the Big Hollywood blog by Patrick Courrielche, who owns an L.A. marketing and entertainment company. Courrielche wrote that he was invited by the [...]
[...] or less. Sergant, for those who were wondering, had been involved in a NEA conference call last month that – depending on who you asked – was either a perfectly innocent [...]
[...] or less. Sergant, for those who were wondering, had been involved in a NEA conference call last month that – depending on who you asked – was either a perfectly innocent conversation with [...]
Patrick,
I appreciate your courage to stand up for what you think is right, regardless of its putative/possible impact on your work. And I agree.
The idea of a government agency like the NEA even talking about politics gives me chills, and the potential for abuse by any political party is very real.
To use an extreme example: what if the NEA wished to encourage artistic debate about the validity of the earth being flat? This would lend a disproportionate credence to a failed belief that everyone, including artists, would have forsaken centuries ago. Yet those artists may be dependent on the same agency for their livelihood, and might belly up to the table, thus giving certain ideas power they never could have earned on their own merits. Merely framing the debate itself influences the outcome. The parallel to less extreme examples from today's politics is obvious.
In the end, I think it's totally inappropriate, not to mention politically underhanded.
Jeff Montgomery
http://funwithgravity.blogspot.com/
[...] for those who were wondering, was the NEA communications director who had been involved in a conference call last month that – depending on who you asked – was either a perfectly innocent conversation with [...]
Thanks for posting this.
Kindly take a look at "Creative Disloyalty" by Richard Holloway.
http://tinyurl.com/qh3zfk
If that URL does not work for you, just google "creative disloyalty holloway."
Enjoy.
By all means, please do move to Europe! Take Dear Leader, his sell-out toadie "Artists" and his agenda with you. Feel warm under his magic glow and you both can sit around at some lame cafe and marvel at how progressively wonderful you are. Yeah, those Europeans and their amazing insight on government and socialism. Those educated Germans really put themselves together a fine little progressive government, didn't they? A pretty star for your coat, my dear? There, isn't that nic?. Run along to the camp now…
Just remember…after Dear Leader has all the "Art" he needs from you and you cease being a useful idiot and are simply just an idiot? Well, you know how it goes for artists and intellects after Big O and the gang get their ducks in a row? That's right. Shivering in a cattle car, wondering what happend. That's progress for ya. Next stop, Belsen.
Outside of being sell-out tools, there's nothing wrong with it.
Exhibit A —>"creative talent in this country that needs to be utilized"
Exhibit B—>"when art and popular culture trends get appropriated"
The difference is that when the Stones sell-out my favorite song to Ford in a commercial, my parents don't end up euthenized by some ACORN flake with a bag full of goodies.
You prefer NPR, MSNBC,NBC,CBS,ABC,ETC adoration to Fox distortion. Great. Hope that works out for you. Exactly what the hell does it matter where Patrick presents his opinions?
So Patrick could take his opinions to any of your prefered vendors, and you'd be OK with that? Funny thing about that is your prefered media vendors don't cotton to the "brand" Patrick's opinion carries. There's only one out there that does, for now.Fox. Lucky us. Even still, ask yourself why that is?
[...] for those who were wondering, was the NEA communications director who had been involved in a conference call last month that – depending on who you asked – was either a perfectly innocent [...]
[...] Whole thing here. It’s really pretty disturbing (maybe not surprising, but still disturbing) and definitely worth reading. [...]
[...] for the Arts (NEA) to recruit artists to the national service of promoting the president’s agenda — “to help lay a new foundation for growth, focusing on core areas of the recovery [...]
[...] for those who were wondering, was the NEA communications director who had been involved in a conference call last month that – depending on who you asked – was either a perfectly innocent [...]
[...] the story of the National Endowment for the Arts whoring itself out as the White House’s propaganda wing? The Washington Times reports that NEA Communications [...]
[...] letter was prompted by a report about the conference on the Big Hollywood blog. The LA Times Culture Monster blog has the full story. Cornyn is upset because “steering the [...]
[...] new service initiative. But one artist, L.A.-based Patrick Courrielche recorded the call, and wrote a blog post later saying he felt “concerned” about Sergant’s comments on the call: [...]
[...] new service initiative. But one artist, L.A.-based Patrick Courrielche recorded the call, and wrote a blog post later saying he felt “concerned” about Sergant’s comments on the call: [...]
[...] Clyde Fitch Report, sometime filmmaker/marketer and possible right-wing shill Patrick Courrielche, writing on the website Big Hollywood, suggests that recent conference calls involving the NEA and arts advocates and activists were part [...]
This was a GREAT article. Whether it's a left-winged government or a right-winged government, the Fed needs to keep it's slimey little hand out of the art world…PERIOD. Some of you so-called "artists" need to go take your art history classes over again! Then you would have learned the ill effects of art propaganda used in Europe throughout the early to mid 20th century, and could never go for something like this! Since when are we to be used as the government's little bitches anyways? Have you forgotten what art is all about in the first place!?
Patrick Courrielche is a man with conscience…thank goodness for individuals like him…
[...] said his concerns rose from an Aug. 25 posting on the Big Hollywood blog by Patrick Courrielche, who owns an L.A. marketing and entertainment company. Courrielche wrote that he was invited by the [...]
So we spent countless hours working to get the president elected based on his so-called arts platform… and all we creative artsy types get is the chance to be used for the benefit of third partie. I can't say that I'm surprised — my experience in nearly 20 years of working in the arts is that liberals talk a lot about supporting arts and freedom of expression and all that stuff, but when it comes to putting the $$ to advance the arts, well, not so much. Not that the other end of the spectrum is any better, it is just more infuriating to be dismissed by so-called friends.
There's one sentence in the blog that sums what we should be focusing on: "There is no shortage of problems within the art community that the NEA could tackle." Instead, they're spending time planning to paint hospital fences so the hospitals are more welcoming to patients.
I for one, want to thank Patrick for being a "TRUE" artist and American patriot!! The country "needs" MORE TRUE ARTISTS like you. FREE to express their "OWN" creativity and not be funneled into a propaganda machine! Thank you again! You ARE the winner–they are the LOSERS! You STILL have your FREEDOM–you didn't SELL OUT! THANK YOU AGAIN!
[...] The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion? by Patrick Courrielche [...]
[...] who first wrote about the experience on the blog Big Hollywood, said unidentified members of the press were also on the [...]
[...] producer Patrick Courrielche wrote that the call turned out to be an effort to get participants to push the administration’s [...]
[...] Sergant exhorted them to push the administration’s agenda. The call was first reported on Big Hollywood, another Breitbart site, by a participant, Patrick Courrielche, who provided Beck the tape on which [...]
[...] Sergant exhorted them to push the administration’s agenda. The call was first reported on Big Hollywood, another Breitbart site, by a participant, Patrick Courrielche, who provided Beck the tape on which [...]
[...] Sergant exhorted them to push the administration’s agenda. The call was first reported on Big Hollywood, another Breitbart site, by a participant, Patrick Courrielche, who provided Beck the tape on which [...]
With all of the recent tightening of conflict of interest laws regarding governmental influence, I wonder where all the outrage is on this issue?
You are clearly a right wing racist bigot using your platform to smear the only great man this country has ever produced. YES WE CAN!
[...] bad. He writes:"This is just the beginning," Yosi Sergant told participants in an Aug. 10 conference call that seems to have been organized by the National Endowment for the Arts and [...]
Taking the dialogue in a different direction here: How many directors of small nonprofit arts groups from the Midwest or the South were included in this conference call? These large areas of the country have had to fight much harder to get far fewer arts funding dollars, so they should have been in on the conversation. In 1989 one of the major assets the NEA had in to prevent impending oblivion was the phalanx of traditional and folk arts lobbyists who pointed out that funding to programs promoting and revitalizing traditional arts would also be cut. Where are these groups in this conversation? Finally, I don't really care to have the "cool people" of the art world setting arts funding priorities for my program, especially as I happen to think that arts education is cool, and that the freedom to express ideas other than those presented by these conference callers is WAY cool.
Just getting to this. i have been out of the country. Well CRAP is going on. HERE'S ONE ARTIST WHO AINT BUYIN' IT. I am a successful visual artist and have been for many years. My exhibition record proves me to be a hard working prolific artist but most of all…AN INDEPENDANT ARTIST. My work has been evaluated and accepted by my peers, collectors, museums and galleries. I keep my own Atelier and love what I do.
So comes the siren call. Produce work for OBAMA. What is to be gained by succumbing? Get on the A list? Get invited to the WH for yummy Wed night get togethers? Maybe a beer?Rub shoulders with the liberal elite? Get your name publicized ? Get your work recognized by those with political power? And money, sales?? Forget it. They will only buy "investment art". Trust me. Valerie Jarrett or Rahn Emanuel will NOT be buying your art. Just you. You may however get a grant to produce crap. If you can stomach it
OK…so SELL OUT is what we re talking about. If any artist succumbs to this travesty you need to know, you will be regarded as a PROPAGANDIST. Your work will deserve to be regarded PROPAGANDA. As far as the government is concerned, THE ROLL OF THE ARTIST IS TO CRITICIZE THE GOVERNMENT AND ITS POLICIES NOT APPLAUD AND PROMOTE THEM.
GALLERIES, COLLECTORS THE GENERAL PUBLIC WHO PRAISE, EXHIBIT AND/OR PURCHASE THIS WORK ARE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE BUYING INTO PROPAGANDA. ANY CRITIC WORTH HIS/HER SALT WILL DECRY IT AS SUCH. (MUSEUMS ARE FREE TO COLLECT IT AS EXAMPLES OF PROPAGANDA)
CALL TO ARTISTS. BE WHAT YOU STARTED TO BE. STAND UP FOR ART. STAND UP FOR INDEPENDENCE. UNDERSTAND THAT FELLOW ARTISTS WILL SCORN YOU AND YOUR WORK IF YOU SUCCUMB. UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WILL DESRVE TO BE SCORNED BY YOUR PEERS. WORK FOR THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION OR ONE OF ITS PROXIES AND YOU WILL PRODUCE CRAP. YOUR CAREER AS A SERIOUS ARTIST WILL BE DEAD.
[...] Patrick Courrielche over at BigHollywoood wrote about the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) getting involved with promoting the Obama agenda on Aug. 25. [...]
'Speak WITH the government'?
Are the rest of us speaking AGAINST the government?
The word is out. Anyone who wants to make a quick buck off the NEA needs to lose the chocolate, the crucifixes and urine, and start pumping out Hope and Change Peoples' Republic Workers' Paradise Yes We Can His Excellency, Dear Leader Barack Obama the First propaganda.
[...] Hollywood’s Patrick Courrielche broke the story of a conference call he attended with other “rising artist and art community luminaries”: On Thursday August 6th, I was invited by the National Endowment for the Arts to attend a [...]
[...] couple of weeks ago, I read a lengthy article at Breitbart’s other site, Big Hollywood, about a conference call held by NEA big wigs in [...]
[...] On August 25th 2009, Big Hollywood’s Patrick Courrielche broke the story of a conference call he attended with other “rising artist and art community luminaries”: [...]
[...] Last month, Big Hollywood’s Patrick Courrielche broke news on how the NEA was rustling up artists to help “serve” the White House political agenda. [...]
Oh. Dear. Lord. Help us!
[...] the government invite all the cool kids in the cafeteria to produce Obama-ganda on the taxpayer dime via the National Endowment for the [...]
This whole NEA thing is just another tool in Obama's arsenal.
'Constant pressure applied consistently'.
[...] That is the question that I set out to discuss a little over three weeks ago when I wrote an article on Big Hollywood entitled The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion?” [...]
[...] up on this post that covered Patrick Courrielche’s report of his participation in a conference call where the NEA discussed recruiting “artists, [...]
There is a book put out called The Art for Obama.
Talk about a waste of paper and ink.
Personally I've seen better artwork in a public toilet stall.
Yes, they are.
answer: the benjamins. Who can say know to big fat grant check.
Util they realize Uncle Sam put them on a leash.
The author of this post was just hit with the obvious truth:
Government Money is Government Control
This is disgusting!
[...] My bet is on the National Endowment For The Arts or NEA possibly concerning the art of persuasion. [...]
[...] That is the question that I set out to discuss a little over three weeks ago when I wrote an article on Big Hollywood entitled The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion?” [...]
[...] Unfortunately, the transcript of the actual call does not corroborate the NEA’s statement. BigGovernment.com obtained the full transcript of the conference call on which White House official Buffy Wicks (of the Office of Public Engagement and head administration official for Serve.gov; Wicks previous worked with WakeUp Walmart and was a lobbyist for the United Food and Commercial Workers’ Union), and others – including lead organizers with Rock the Vote and Current TV – discussed ways to co-opt the art community for political purposes and manipulate those around them so as to push things like Obama’s health care legislation. It’s a call that call participant Patrick Courrichie says raised the hair on his arms. [...]
[...] likely, you’re generally aware of the story. It was broken by Patrick Courrielche at Big Hollywood. Courrielche received an email invitation from Yosi Sergant of the National Endowment for the Arts [...]
Do you think Joe Biden even knows what is going on?
[...] likely, you’re generally aware of the story. It was broken by Patrick Courrielche at Big Hollywood. Courrielche received an email invitation from Yosi Sergant of the National Endowment for the Arts [...]
Sheesh! I can see it all now…
Classical music lovers, you're in for a (politically correct) treat!
The Boston Pops Orchestra has just been commissioned by a special
NEA grant to perform the Obamacare version of "In a Persian Market."
And the title of this new epic work? "In a Health Care Market." lol
[...] White House Orchestrated NEA Propaganda Campaign For Obama September, 21, 2009 — nicedeb Big Government has released the full audio and transcript from the NEA conference call, Big Hollywood blogger, Patrick Courrielche wrote about last month. [...]
Holy crap! I didn't think this could possibly be true, but it IS!
http://www.nbcuniversalstore.com/?pagemax=all&...
[...] likely, you’re generally aware of the story. It was broken by Patrick Courrielche at Big Hollywood. Courrielche received an email invitation from Yosi Sergant of the National Endowment for the Arts [...]
[...] including unions. However, now it appears that the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) is scheming to promote the President’s agenda. One would think that White House talking points wouldn’t be [...]
[...] likely, you’re generally aware of the story. It was broken by Patrick Courrielche at Big Hollywood. Courrielche received an email invitation from Yosi Sergant of the National Endowment for the Arts [...]
The Big Government-Media-Hollywood Complex…
NEA: Nefarious Expenditures on Agitprop
http://bigchase.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/obey….
There's nothing new about the politicization of the NEA. This latest is just among the more blatant and another good reason to get rid of it.
How about NOPE instead of Hope on the poster.
This is right out of the Communist Manifesto.
This administration has a lot in common with Lenin, Stalin, Musolini, Nut guy from Germany and pinapple face Hugo.
Oh well, the German soldiers did have cool boots during WW ll.
Stand by…
Sounds very Soviet
[...] Courrielche of Big Hollywood, who participated in the conference call, reported that there were a number of high-level White House officials present, including Yosi Sergant, the Director of Communications for the National Endowment for the Arts, [...]
remind me of Stalin, Hitler, mugs all over the place…
Yo Patrick…. guess you wasn't properly vetted eh???
Thanks for your work! good job too.
[...] The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion? On Thursday August 6th, I was invited by the National Endowment for the Arts to attend a conference call scheduled for Monday August 10th hosted by the NEA, the White House Office of Public Engagement, and United We Serve. The call would include “a group of artists, producers, promoters, organizers, influencers, marketers, taste-makers, leaders or just plain cool people to join together and work together to promote a more civically engaged America and celebrate how the arts can be used for a positive change!” [...]
[...] , Big Hollywood: EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO Reveals White House Using NEA to Push Partisan Agenda and The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion? Cogent Nirvana: ALARMING: EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO Reveals White House Using NEA to Push Partisan Agenda [...]
[...] call designed to encourage artists to further Obama’s legislative agenda. This was revealed back in August at Big Hollywood. What is new today is the full transcript of the call — and how clearly the NEA was involved [...]
I love it that, when it come down to it, artists are just as greedy and corrupt as everyone else.
[...] That is the question that I set out to discuss a little over three weeks ago when I wrote an article on Big Hollywood entitled The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion?” [...]
[...] Courrielche of Big Hollywood, who participated in the conference call, reported that there were a number of high-level White House officials present, including Yosi Sergant, the Director of Communications for the National Endowment for the Arts, [...]
[...] Everyone was pretty clear that Breitbart’s new target would be the National Endowment for the Arts, and the conference call coordinated by the White House that instructed past and prospective NEA grantees to go out and make tax subsidized art in favor of Barack Obama’s agenda. I was familiar with the conference call. It had been reported on almost a month ago. [...]
[...] by the White House and the supposedly non-partisan National Endowment for the Arts (NEA), various bloggers’ reactions to this attempt to use art to promote the president’s agenda, I [...]
[...] than the National Endowment for the Arts' already tenuous reputation, the only casualty in the NEA conference call episode has been Yosi Sergant, the former Director of Communications for the public agency charged with [...]
[...] new and under-funded artists, not to engage in propaganda for the sitting government — so he wrote about it on Breitbart’s Hollywood expose’ blog, Big Hollywood. This led to a completely [...]
[...] The Obama administration is surrounded with propaganda organisations pushing Obama’s agenda. The mainstream media is only one of them and now Obama is considering bailing out these propagandists with our tax money. Another one of those is the highly political and partially tax payer funded National Endowment for the Arts, otherwise known as the NEA. Obama seems to be somewhat involved by way of an NEA conference call to a group of selected artists. Read the story here by one of the artists that was on that conference call: http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/pcourrielche/2009/08/25/the-national-endowment-for-the-art-of-pers... [...]
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[...] That is the question that I set out to discuss a little over three weeks ago when I wrote an article on Big Hollywood entitled The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion?” [...]
[...] Big Hollywood: EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO Reveals White House Using NEA to Push Partisan Agenda and The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion? Cogent Nirvana: ALARMING: EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO Reveals White House Using NEA to Push Partisan Agenda [...]
[...] added. Guess the White House staff is too busy engaging the public (especially through independent federal agencies) to get behind the President’s health care [...]
[...] A recent blog post by Los Angeles-based artist Patrick Courrielche details an August 10, 2009, conference call hosted by the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA), the White House Office of Public Engagement, and United We Serve. The stated purpose of the call was to encourage a select group of artists “to help lay a new foundation for growth, focusing on core areas of the recovery agenda – health care, energy and environment, safety and security, education, community renewal.” According to Mr. Courrielche, the NEA and the White House were “steering the art community toward creating art on the very issues that are currently under contentious national debate; those being health care reform and cap-and-trade legislation.” See http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/pcourrielche/2009/08/25/the-national-endowment-for-the-art-of-pers…. [...]
[...] — which is what art community consultant Patrick Courrielche did before writing it up on his Big Hollywood blog — is illegal under California law. Courrielche’s office is based in LA — and at [...]
[...] likely, you’re generally aware of the story. It was broken by Patrick Courrielche at Big Hollywood. Courrielche received an email invitation from Yosi Sergant of the National Endowment for the Arts [...]
[...] Big Hollywood: EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO Reveals White House Using NEA to Push Partisan Agenda and The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion? Cogent Nirvana: ALARMING: EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO Reveals White House Using NEA to Push Partisan Agenda [...]
[...] 25, 2009 · Leave a Comment It all started out as The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion? BH. Obama has a strong arts agenda, we were told, and has been very supportive of both using [...]
[...] is listed on the United We Serve email list obtained by the Washington Times. He has stated that he was invited to participate in the call, and has blogged about the call, in one post referring to it as “my call,” thus implying he was present on the [...]
[...] administration scares me. The Drudge Report and TownHall carry a link today to an article by Patrick Courrielche of the Big Hollywood blog. Patrick talks about a conference call he was on with the National Endowment of the Arts to [...]
I agree that is isn't the role of Government (NEA) to control the culture of art. It is up to the artist, and the gallery, or museum to show Art and the spectators role to decide if they like or dislike. Neither outright should decide if a work should or shouldn't be shown. Besides "Outsider art" has always found a way to make it voice heard. However, for years the NEA has been involved in forming public option on what "A"rt is, and is not. The problem as I see it is that art drives more then just Art, it forms culture and culture is used to set the moral codex for the proletariat. Think of all the movies, music and the like, out in the ethos. Duchamp said "that weather the art was good, bad or indifferent it was still "Art"". He also said "it was the role of the specter to provide the posterity". For me the problems is that because the NEA spends a ton of money supporting public art it usurps the role of the spectator and by default sets the moral standards by deciding what gets money and what doesn't. The role of Art is not to make pretty and non-threating art. The role of art is to make people think about the human condition, both good and bad, pretty and ugly. It is to make the human condition tangible in someway for public reflection.
[...] by Glenn Beck. Andrew Breitbart, essentially, broke the ACORN scandal. With Patrick Courrielche, he got the ball rolling against Yosi Sergant at the NEA. Heck, Van Jones was cut by his own hand: if he’d never signed a Truther Petition, he’d [...]
[...] received from Michael Skolnik, the moderator of the call, immediately after the publication of the original conference call article – an email that attempted to revise history and the role of the NEA and the White House in the [...]
[...] Arts (NEA) communications director Yosi Sergant invited Patrick Courrielche and 74 other artists to participate in an August 10th conference call supporting the United We Serve Program. Sergant invited his [...]
[...] received from Michael Skolnik, the moderator of the call, immediately after the publication of the original conference call article – an email that attempted to revise history and the role of the NEA and the White House in the [...]
Don't forget that places like Cafepress.com and Rock the Vote are huge contributors to this cause. Heck… Cafepress even ran a contest for the best pro healthcare design for the shopkeepers / artist to earn some extra money. I have proof if there is a need to know.. Infact, I sent 3 emails to Glenn Beck but seems he doesn't want to mention these companies as they are in the mix of evil doers. I was a Cafepress designer / shopkeeper.
[...] Isn’t an Answer and EXPLOSIVE NEW AUDIO Reveals White House Using NEA to Push Partisan Agenda and The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion? Patterico’s Pontifications, Big Hollywood: The NEA, The White House, The Lies and The [...]
you actually kno those amendments haha
[...] for the Arts (NEA) to recruit artists to the national service of promoting the president’s agenda — “to help lay a new foundation for growth, focusing on core areas of the recovery agenda – [...]
[...] Unfortunately, the transcript of the actual call does not corroborate the NEA’s statement. BigGovernment.com obtained the full transcript of the conference call on which White House official Buffy Wicks (of the Office of Public Engagement and head administration official for Serve.gov; Wicks previous worked with WakeUp Walmart and was a lobbyist for the United Food and Commercial Workers’ Union), and others – including lead organizers with Rock the Vote and Current TV – discussed ways to co-opt the art community for political purposes and manipulate those around them so as to push things like Obama’s health care legislation. It’s a call that call participant Patrick Courrichie says raised the hair on his arms. [...]
I think the all these comments are the scariest thing about this article.
To everyone posting commentary: I am one small person – just like you. I believe the artwork, itself, is really incredible. The subject matter, however, Obamanable.
[...] conservatives for hate speech. Someone from the National Endowment for the Arts should break from creating propaganda to oversee the next dastardly “conservative” hate-scrawl and add some [...]
look, I found something very interesting here http://www.covertpersuasion.net/
[...] Sergant exhorted them to push the administration’s agenda. The call was first reported on Big Hollywood, another Breitbart site, by a participant, Patrick Courrielche, who provided Beck the tape on [...]
Brothers in arms!
[...] in planning the August 10 conference call that was first revealed by Andrew Breitbart’s Big Hollywood.com web site. Participants in the conference call were encouraged to use their talents to [...]
[...] Sargant in planning the August 10 conference call that was first revealed by Andrew Breitbart's Big Hollywood.com web site. Participants in the conference call were encouraged to use their talents to generate [...]
[...] in planning the August 10 conference call that was first revealed by Andrew Breitbart’s Big Hollywood.com web site. Participants in the conference call were encouraged to use their talents to [...]
i would like to call attention to something:
"Previously shackled with the controversy over the Serrano and Mapplethorpe images of 1989 that escalated to a debate over its very existence, the NEA needs to stay far away from any questions of impropriety."
you're giving artists affiliated with the nea an awfully narrow world to inhabit, since they need to avoid the appearance of making propaganda and impropriety. it was my pleasure to participate in design for obama, the website where you got the majority of these images, and i think there is a difference between being inspired to create political art and being directed to create political art. the nea has withered over the decades to a shadow of what it was, and unfortunately, i think many people are trying to find a use for it rather than considering arts worthy of funding on their own. the works from the dfo project are being published for profit, and it's kind of upsetting to think about how that expression was quickly consumed by a corporate entity. at least works created under the fed's direction are always public domain.
And now V has backfired on them. It's only if they like the way you PORTRAY their agenda!
I found some of the original 912ers at this site http://912communique.ning.com/ it has a vent page too.Please check it out
[...] there’s four key areas that the corporation has identified as key areas of service.” And this [bottom of article]: “This is just the beginning. This is the first telephone call of a brand new [...]
[...] The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion? [...]
[...] 26, 2009 · 8 Comments Big Hollywood: The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion? It sounded, how should I phrase it…unusual, that the NEA would invite the art community to a [...]
[...] producer Patrick Courrielche wrote that the call turned out to be an effort to get participants to push the administration’s [...]
[...] August 10th conference call is an obvious example. The call was partisan in nature, it led to policy advocacy, the [...]
[...] likely, you’re generally aware of the story. It was broken by Patrick Courrielche at Big Hollywood. Courrielche received an email invitation from Yosi Sergant of the National Endowment for the Arts [...]
[...] to drop a crucifix into a har of urine and label the creation “Piss Christ.” And now that same taxpayer-funded NEA is blatantly part of the left’s political agenda as a propag…. But a public school child who draws a picture of Jesus on the Cross in response to sketch [...]
[...] when health care reform legislation was heading toward hot-button status. This shameless attempt at propaganda was abruptly halted after the appearance of the story on Big Hollywood, and the revelations led to [...]
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[...] Courrielche, a filmmaker, exposed an Obama administration attempt to use the NEA to build support for the president’s agenda. At a [...]
[...] started with Patrick Courrielche’s now famous expose’ on the NEA Conference Call. Just like the Scott Eckern story, what bothered me most at the time was the media and especially [...]
[...] 2007 list.Mr. Breitbart burst onto the media scene this year after his websites broke the ACORN and NEA scandals this [...]
[...] only does the Congress and the White House practice transparency in their actions and decisions. Did you hear about the Deputy Director of the White House Office of Public Engagement, Buffy Wicks, being [...]
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