Glenn Beck, CNN, John Nolte, the Canadians and Me
by Michael WilsonJohn Nolte, the Editor-in-Chief of Big Hollywood emailed me last night and asked if I had any interest in doing a piece about The Onion wishing Glenn Beck dead in this video. At first, I thought maybe it was a job for Wolf Blitzer, but then remembered that Glenn is “somewhat” reviled at CNN and they might not fact-check a bit on him. But I felt compelled to write for two reasons: the first is that Glenn and I have a mutual friend who frequently says “the answer to bad speech is more speech,” the second is that John’s request immediately reminded me of a phone call I received from the Canadian Broadcasting Company a few years back. (Bet you didn’t think I could work everything from the headline into one paragraph, did you?)

After I made “Michael Moore Hates America,” I spent several years (and still occasionally) doing interviews for the press on movie stuff. They’d always call me, because, you know, I’m a crazy, angry right-wing nut job and I’d made the only “conservative” documentary any of them had ever heard of. Something controversial would happen in the world of cinema, my phone would ring for a few days and then I’d go back to my life. In one episode, I received a call from the CBC. They wanted to know if I could do a satellite interview with them on an evening news talk show. The topic was the about-to-be-released film “Death of a President” where President George W. Bush was digitally assassinated.
The producer asked me if I could go on and talk about how outrageous it was that the filmmakers would do this. I said, “Well, I’ll go on if you like, but you should know that I don’t find it at all outrageous.” There was a long pause. “You don’t?” she asked. “Nope,” I responded. “I’m a filmmaker. I’m an artist. I would never, ever tell another artist what they should or shouldn’t create. I mean, look, President Bush is still in office and it’s probably not a great idea to do it with a sitting president. But more importantly, he’s married and he has kids. And regardless of whether he’s loved or reviled, he’s still a human being and not a fictional character. So from that perspective, I think it’s kind of mean. But I’d never tell an artist to not create something for any reason.”
“Well,” said the producer, clearly disappointed, “we’re really looking for someone who’s outraged.”
“Good luck finding your outrage,” I said, before exchanging pleasantries and hanging up.
And that, dear readers is almost everything that’s wrong with the world.
Rather than inviting intelligent people to simply talk about stuff they know about and who have expertise they might be able to share with the audience, we live in a world where feigned outrage and an inability to say “I might be wrong and you might be right” has resulted in our loss of focus on what this, the greatest nation the world has ever known, was supposed to be… an arena of ideas.
I’m a hardcore libertarian. I read the Founders and feel like they’d be utterly stunned at the power the federal government has slowly and surely obtained. Some of my very close friends think that’s pure silliness, and we talk about it and hash it out and yell at each other. And after I win the debate, we all feel like we’ve learned something. But they’re right too. They just picked the wrong nation to want socialism in.
I also happen to have a deep respect for Glenn Beck, both for his talent and skill in fusing entertainment and enlightenment, for his deep concern for our nation and where we’re headed, but also because of something deeply personal that our mutual friend was nice enough to convey my thanks for. Not to be opaque, but suffice it to say that Glenn has talked about something that has had a profound impact on my life, beyond politics.
Should The Onion have wished death on Glenn Beck? Probably not, because no matter how much you might hate him, he’s still a guy with a family and feelings. By most accounts, Glenn’s a nice guy (though he admits to having been an asshole in the past, but so do I). I’ve never heard him trash an individual outside of discussing what they’ve said publicly (Van Jones comes to mind), which is certainly fair game in the business of politics. I’ve never heard him step outside of the political and attack a person’s family or religion (unless the context directly informs the politics… i.e. Jeremiah Wright). Yet people hate him with a white-hot passion for speaking truth to power, so much so that he has private security and receives real, honest-to-goodness death threats on a daily basis. That’s a terrible thing, whether the threats are against Glenn or Michael Moore.
But more important than whether the Onion was mean to Glenn is why Nolte asked me to write this piece in the first place, which is that he’s a smart enough guy to know I’m not outraged and that I look at things a little differently, especially when it comes to entertainment. He knew that rather than the sniping that might come from our side, it might be more fun to have a conversation. Glenn Beck probably isn’t outraged (as an entertainer, I bet he might even think it funny). And maybe you shouldn’t be either. We probably shouldn’t get fired up and angry over little things that have no real impact on our world. The Onion doesn’t matter because they can’t tax or enslave me, and if I don’t like their work, I can always choose to not click in their direction. We could also simply counter it with really funny shit that hammers their guys. But mostly, I think we should save our energy for the big fights that mean something, like our struggle to remain free in an increasingly oppressive and parental America.
Tomorrow, if he chooses, Glenn will climb behind that microphone and speak truth to power again. Because, after all, the answer to bad speech is more speech.





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Great logic Michael, If the Onion feels the only speech they have left is to kill someone then the depth of their argument is pretty shallow. Glen must be doing something right when the Onion can't have a discussion on facts.
The Onion wants Glenn Beck dead? They must be racists.
Michael, the CBC stopped being an arena for ideas about 5 seconds after its creation. It always has and always will be the propaganda arm of all things left wing in Canada. It should be crushed immediately for the good of my fellow Canadians.
…or Obama staff. Wait a minute…
Hmm… maybe Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck can get a group discount on their security detail…
I find it rather sad that a person in this country needs a security detail simply for voicing opposing views in a public arena… and I mean that from both sides.
The only thing CBC has going for it is the Red Green Show and the curling championships. Other than that it's been the equivalent of the BBC.
No one ever addresses the information that Beck puts out. They only attack what they perceive to be his motives and intentions, which has become quite boring. So the only thing left to do is to be more outrageous each day in order to get any attention. Thank you Mr. Wilson for so eloquently describing what is just noise and pointing out where the energy should be focused.
Good points. In the marketplace of ideas, those with the greatest value should ultimately prevail. Preventing the exchange only makes people suspicious of those who want to skew the market.
This highlights one of my major complaints with this administration. I can't recall a single instance where it responded to criticism with a reasoned analysis of the criticism, or a reasoned defense of their own policy. It is always "They don't know what they are talking about" or "They are just trying to protect their profits" or "People shouldn't listen to them." Tends to make one think they know how substantively bankrupt their ideas are, but are afraid an honest debate would just reveal that to everyone else.
The Onion video is hilarious! Funny how people who love Beck, Limbaugh and Coulter's rhetoric are suddenly so thin skinned over a humor site. http://www.newsprism.com
The Onion's job isn't to have a discussion on facts, they bend facts all the time, that is their "shtick". They are satire. Most of the time, they are pretty funny at it.
But I agree with some of the outrage – why is the onion on "their" side? Shouldn't they make fun of everyone on both sides? Why is it that a year after leaving office, they are still making fun of Bush, and very little attempts are made at satirizing the current sitting president? It says a lot about them, I suppose.
That's where my outrage is from. The actual subject of the piece couldn't matter less to me, especially when you have read their other stuff.
Your tax dollars hard at work…We need to fund a group that allows us to filter out Obama-paid comments
"But mostly, I think we should save our energy for the big fights that mean something, like our struggle to remain free in an increasingly oppressive and parental America."
Concur. Beck being a recipient of the hate is proof positive that he is being effective. And that we should embrace rather than express outrage. Maybe someone should publish "The Garlic" to mock "The Onion" when it's appropriate. Let's see. What would be the pretense? Fairness? Maybe like a Doctrine?
Hey that's it! "The Garlic…A Fairness Doctrine!" Run the presses.
Absolutely perfect! I don't agree with Obama's wanting to tax the heck out of me and I don't admire anyone who wants to "re"-make the United States with Marxist ideals (I like your comment about socialism is fine, but you're in the wrong country), but that doesn't mean I shout "Death to the Infidels" and slay people over it.
It's a societal problem, I think — everyday life has become so course. Cashiers use profanity in front of children and grandmas as they check out at the register, bumping someone in the street becomes a call-out for a duel, and drivers are willing to die rather than let someone into their lane. There's no such thing as moderation anymore — "If I'm right, then you must die" and vice versa.
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I think that this article was well written. I support the underlying postions on free speech. HOWEVER, when one takes a megaphone, microphone, or bloggers keyboard and advocates violence, that is a line that should not be crossed. Do they have the right? YES. Should we pound our fists and demand legal or government action to silence them? NO. But it is the absolute duty of everyone who supports free speech to take up strong and vocal opposition to people who recklessly sling insults and hold them publically accountable and force them to justify their rantings.
I know we all have heard of sticks and stones…… but we live in a modern age where the science of psychology can be twisted to serve the aims of PROPOGANDA. One of the guiding principles on the road to destroy, literally, your opponent is the process of dehumanizing them. Remember that when the ENEMIES of freedom sling their "harmless" venon. Take every chance to stand against them. Be loud. Shine the light of publically scutiny on them. Make them DEFEND their rantings with FACTS. As libertarians and conservatives we tend to look at things as mind your own business and live and let live, but make no mistake, the statists aren't in this for a lively debate. They have declared WAR on individual freedom and anyone who disagrees with them. To not stand against them now is to lay down arms in the face of the enemy. If left unchallenged, there will come a day that your silence will not be optional.
Sorry — everyday life has become so *coarse.* (I had a distraction that knocked me off my game just then!) Is there an "edit" button that I just don't see?
Because, after all, the answer to bad speech is more speech.
Thus, in a world of huffpo, dailykos, and the White House, we have BigHollywood, BigGovernment, and Fox.
The Onion does do some pretty conservative humor; or at least humor taking shots at liberals. Any one remember the Onion's "Barack Obama attempts to negotiate with a wild fire"?
I think it's about content more than concept. There's a difference between making fun of someone and wishing them dead. They seem to make fun of left-wing icons, and wish death on right-wing ones, which is offensive. But you seemed to miss the very clear statement that nobody wants to take away their right to be jerks. We just find it disconcerting.
so 'The Onion' wants Beck dead, eh?….
This is what passes for humor nowadays. Or commentary, if you like. As a trifle, The Onion is passable entertainment. A fictional offing of Glenn could be funny, we suppose. But there are actually people who deeply hate the man. Not sure why. He is a commentator with shock jock roots. Air America had it's share of leftie's like Beck (Randy Rhodes, anyone?) who were just as outrageous.
No one on the right wanted them killed…
Is it because Beckis successful? Or is because he is correct in his assertions?
We posit that it is BOTH…
It says about the same as SNL I guess… because as far as I remember they made fun of every President during their tenure… however, every attempt at Obama is lame…
The Onion piece isn't funny. Thin-skinned applies a lot more to people who look at an orderly, calm protest in Washington and describe it as "hateful" and "angry" and stupid stuff like that. You guys can't even take a sharp line or two from Ann, without apoplexy. This is several minutes of a "nation" wishing that gruesome death would be "reserved" for Glenn Beck. I think the awful sense that liberals have for "equivalency", is probably why I don't want them to be the guardians of "equal protection under law"
I'm not outraged in that I want any third-party action against the Onion, but I think they've earned themselves a label of "hateful" in this humorless piece of crap.
Wow…curling championships? I didn't think anything could be more mind-numbing than watching golf or bowling on TV. Looks like there are depths still yet to be plumbed.
I don't think Beck or Limbaugh or Coulter are complaining or whining.
They used to have Kenny vs Spenny, my favorite comedy show, but it was canceled of course.
The reason this doesn't offend the majority of people is that they have been indoctrinated into believing anyone who is Conservative is 'extreme' and 'crazy'. This isn't a revelation, but it really hit home for me last night when I was watching the NY-23 election returns. Hoffman put up a good fight but eventually lost; the commentary from every single left-wing news source and blogger was "Thank goodness the New Yorkers rejected that crazy extremist!"
What about Hoffman was crazy or extreme? Absolutely nothing. As he says, he's a classic Conservative, a successful businessman, and seems a decent guy. But that's what they think is extreme.
This is why Beck can expose gigantic news stories that the MSM ignores, and people still pretend that he's just a crazy talking head and openly fantasize about his death.
The real depressing thing is realizing that it's how they think about ALL of us.
Actually it doesn't bother me at all… I know satire when I see it (and I have known for a long time that is what the Onion is… satire)…. I may not agree with it but I'm not going to get my panties in a twist over it… :-/
I thought they were equal oportunity offendors, but they've drowed trow and starting undulating over Obama and are pretty off limits.
Try the 5 pin powling! Riveting!
In defense of The Onion, they did actually make fun of Obama on occasion (when NO OTHER comedy source would).
http://www.theonion.com/content/whitehousewar/bar...
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/obamas_hillb...
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/media_having...
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_win_c...
Go do the search yourself http://www.theonion.com/content/search/onion/adva...
The Onion slays every one and every thing. I'd be honored if they'd do a joke about me. But I'm not famous enough.
I say if its meant to be funny and it is, laugh.
That's what disgusts me so about SNL, Letterman and that ilk. They don't even have the common decency to be funny.
come on it's THE ONION, does anyone really care what they say? How many actually read them? I don't
the only person I know who reads them is the same friend who finds Olberman reasonable.
I loved this editorial–if you don't like something, turn it off.
Here's a Headline for them:
Onion Staff pre-order their 2010-edition Obama Blinders .
Wow! John Nolte picked exactly the right guy this time. Sir, I loved every single word and agree with you, a first for me and Big Hollywood. Having lived for a time in Madison, WI (Five Square Miles Surrounded by Reality was my favorite t-shirt line), I know The Onion. It usually is pretty funny and takes aim at things I usually like seeing poked. Whatever The Onion says, as you say, it s not worth worldwide discussion during a time when other matters are. Nice work, John Nolte. You have done what an editor does. You've chosen the best person to handle, in this case, a non-story, and handle it so well that it will stay a non-story. Thank you, Michael Wilson.
Profound
I understand that you have to provide the link to the video, but it irks me.
Why on earth would you want to provide click traffic to something so ugly? I make it a point to try not to click on anything or anyone I wish to disappear or anything that is nasty or despicable. A video wishing someone death or cancer or anything along that line no matter the target meets all three of those "no click" rules.
I wish others would consider that too. Why feed that?
Interesting in this context that you say that political discourse has degenerated into 'feigned outrage' and that no one wants to say 'you might be right, I might be wrong'. I say 'interesting' because that's what Glenn Beck (and Rush Limbaught and Sean Hannity, etc.) dispense on a daily basis — feigned outrage over whatever incident they chose to bring up, as well as cast-in-concrete certainties that their positions are right and true, and that any one who disagrees is not merely wrong but un-American, Marxist and (worst of all) a liberal. True conservatism needs far more William F. Buckleys and George Wills, who think and reason intelligently, and far fewer Glenn Becks, who rant and rave. But then, it's really all about entertainment and ratings in the end.
I actually visit Ann Coulter's site often, and apparently she could care less about "The Onion". She actually has an Onion video linked since October 31.
http://www.anncoulter.com It's really hilarious if you can stand the profanity…I think the language was sort of the point. Comedy writers sometimes hit and miss. If someone isn't offended at some point, the comedy isn't probably too good.
At least for now, I can choose not to watch the "death wish" type videos…not my type of humor!
Come on look at the Onion's rips on Obama and Hillary Clinton
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_to_en...
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/u_s_condemn...
And this one where they rip the press by saying they would ignore Obama being a killer
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/media_having...
If all you get out of what Glenn Beck says is that he "rants and raves", then you're not listening….
I took the Onion piece as a parody of liberals' arrogance and low consciousness. I suspect he has fans there.
Mr. Wilson, while you very eloquently articulated some cogent points on free speech, I couldn't disagree with you more. If what you say is true, then a Steven Crowder video parody of Obama being assassinated would be too trivial for the left to even comment on let alone be upset about. Ya, like that would happen! I can't even disagree with the president without being labeled a racist by the MSM and Liberals in Congress. The left would also not see Crowder’s video as a poor judgment in taste by one man, but rather a universal ideal held by all conservatives. The more conservatives and society in general tolerate this kind of "free (hate) speech" the more cruel and offensive their rhetoric will become. I'm sorry there are just certain things that are not acceptable in an open society. I believe in your assessment of this incident you are projecting your conservative values onto the left, which is a big mistake to say the least.
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While I agree that the world needs more Buckleys and George Wills I say we have a fair share of new intelligensia ie. Sowell, Krauthammer etc. What you call feigned outrage is also telling. Using voice inflection to make a point is part of the tools of the talk show trade. If I wanted monotone I would listen to NPR.
The lefts inability to be successful in radio talk or TV talk is obvious because they are not capable of making it interesting. Your critique of successful talk should make it obvious to you if you are paying any attention at all.
Lets face it with liberals running things the outrage is not feigned
How the phuck is that onion spoof supposed to be funny? These people keep this bullsiht up and I will be the first mutherphucker to start the civil war round 2.
I agree Wanda, what the Onion does is trash and I would have no opinion if it hadn't appeared here as I don't look for that type of funny. I would say that libs are there biggest fans since they live in that world by choice tho
they have a few of BH fans as well apparently. I understand the need to keep a site interesting but having self imposed boundaries is not always a bad thing. Its call taste.
Being thin skinned is something that applies to the current occupant in the White House, not Beck, nor Coulter.
I haven't seen a good curling match since I escaped from Vermont!
I think that the lame satire/humor attempted by both The Onion and SNL concerning the present TOTUS is inntentional.
Ed, Did you see the Onion piece about the Google Opt out village? Very worth watching. . .
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/google_opt_...
Yeah, I've been reading the Onion for years. They're hit and miss, like all comedy is, but when they hit it, they really nail it. And they do seem to me to be equal opportunity bashers for the most part. I loved their first post 9/11 release. Anyone who can take a situation like that, and turn it into the much needed laugh as they did is fine in my book.
"God Angrily Clarifies 'Don't Kill' Rule"
http://www.theonion.com/content/index/3734
You have to stop worrying about the MSM being fair, because it never was, isn't and never will be. Many people are figuring this out, and leaving the MSM in droves. They're excuse: the internet. The truth: the truth.
It'll just drive you nuts if you let it. My analogy for the MSM is refs at the old WWW matches I used to watch as a kid. Tag team match, tow bad guys in the ring, beating one good guy with chairs, while the ref is yelling at the other good guy for having one foot on the ropes.
It's so patently unfair, it can't be taken seriously.
I'll give you Buckley, but Wills is too much of a girly man for my taste. A lot of his work is good, but I think he uses obscure words to make himself sound more important.
What did Wills in for me was the second Bush was out of office he started working on columns demanding the US get out of Afghanistan. Which means he either never supported it, but kept quiet because of politics, or else he still supports it and is lying about it now for politics.
I listen to Rush religiously, Hannity only because he's on after Rush and I can't take any more NPR (4 hours in the morning is more than enough, thank you), and I've never seen Beck. But I have seen what they left passes off as thoughtful, reasonable, opinion debate, and its not even tin the same league.
robobob – Excellent posts and I agree with you 100%. As conservatives and libertarians our greatest strength is also our greatest weakness – "live and let live". We do mind our own business; we do believe in individual rights, etc. But we allow ourselves to be bashed again and again and we just keep smiling.
Well, I'm done smiling (and I haven't been a real conservative for more than 8 years). We don't have to stoop to their level, but when a lie comes out, when something like wishing someone dead comes out, we must at least acknowledge it and state our disagreement with it, even if our panties aren't in a twist. You are correct, robobbob – we must shine the light on them from our City on the Hill and watch them scatter like cockroaches!
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My opinion of this wasn't so much projecting his values on the left, as explaining the right shouldn't do it just because the left does it.
It's a nice sentiment, but it will achieve nothing. You can't have a reasonable conversation with people who have no idea of the concept of reason.
Also check out Thomas Sowell, Walter E. Williams and Mark Steyn.
There's a lot of conservative/libertarian voices on the right. You just need to dig deep to find them. Williams and Sowell post regularly over at Town Hall, and you can find Steyn's web site using google.
His writings are long, but usually well worth the time. I remember one where he was replying to a critic of his book, and Steyn pointed out how obvioulsy he never even read it, because every charge was false, and he proved it.
The best line "That thing leaking out your ass is your credibility."
Agreed. I think they lean left, but they will attack anyone. I've enjoyed a lot of what they've done.
By the way, Ed, come vote in our poll on the meaning of conservatism (http://commentarama.blogspot.com/2009/11/commenta... Bring your friends!
I'll take your poll, but I'm not a conservative, I'm still trying to figure out what conservatism is.
I grew up on the left, I know them inside and out. But on the right, I hear different people stating what it is and they don't seem to match up very well with each other. Take Newt and NY-23.
I like what's coming out of Rush, but then in the next breath I see GOP attacks on Sarah Palin. I some times wonder if conservatives even have a general agreement on what it means.
Personally I'm a weird political hybrid Christian/Libertarian/Neo-classical-liberal.
Ed, You don't have to be a conservative to take the poll, but honestly — from your description — you're probably more of a conservative than many of the people on the political scene who claim the mantle today.
The poll came about because the word "conservative" does seem to encompass a lot of different opinions — some of them contradictory. We know what the media says conservatives believe, but that doesn't seem to fit with what every-day conservsatives say they believe. I wanted to get beyond the ambiguity of the label and see what people thought it really meant to be a conservative. It's been kind of surprising so far.
Michael, you've got class and a principled mind. Great response to the CBC who are always on the prowl to make conservatives look like Neanderthals.
The CBC like the BBC are parodies of nuanced lefty group think which they've been spewing for decades They'd both be reduced to the stature of a fossilized CBS if privatized and uncoupled from the taxpayer's wallet.
The Onion hasn't be funny in years. I actually forgot about them until this incidence with Beck.
I believe in how I interpret the Bible, and the written record from America's founding fathers.
I truly believe those individuals were on the cusp of a revolution that changed the world. And I mean in thought and wisdom, not just war.
Following the disastrous NYC campaign in 1776, the Continental Congress basically crowned George Washington King of America. They gave him unlimited power to do what ever he thought necessary to keep the revolution going. He could rape, burn, kill, confiscate, steal, what ever he thought necessary, he was empowered to do.
Washington reluctantly accepted, said he'd use the power as wisely as possible, and return it as soon as he could. And that's exactly what he did. He proved the old axiom wrong: absolute power does not corrupt absolutely. He walked away from it several months later.
He did the same thing following his second presidential administration, no one knew what would happen. Would he declare himself King? Would there be another revolution? Would his party fight to retain power? And what did this wonderful example of the best of human nature do?
Packed his bags, and went home to farm. That is character.
Ed, I think the thing that makes the United States so special in the world is that we are the first (and still only) country that was formed by the voluntary consent of the people based on an intellectual idea.
Every other country is either an historical accident or treats its people as its property.
Still think no one probably laughed harder at the Onion piece than Glenn Beck…
Really? Live and let live? I guess as long as you're not gay? I suppose if conservatives minded their own business, they wouldn't worry about what gay couples were doing.
Or, how about abortion? Mind your own business on that one?
I agree with live and let live. Maybe we should all practice it once in a while.
Agreed, we are not slaves to the state and the elite. They work for us.
I believe this concept is so foreign to people of other nations, they can't comprehend it, so they don't approve of America. That, and especially because, it works. Nothing breeds hatred better than absolute proof one is wrong.
I firmly believe in the premise: we hold these truths to be self evident that all people are created equal and they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, among them life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.
Those are some of the strongest principles ever conceived.
Do they televise *lawnbowling* during the two week that Canadians refer to as ~summer~ ?
I think the Onion and SNL are both in bed with the current administration.
And for some reason, neither one of them are funny or entertaining any more.
I watched the Glenn Beck / Onion video and I thought it was real funny. Not that I thought it would be funny to see Glenn Beck dead, I'm a big fan of what he has to say, and I'm glad he's doing what he's doing. I took the video to be more of a spoof on all the people who have such strong hatred towards him. I ran into one the other day who as soon as he felt that I was in the same camp as Glenn Beck, all of a suddend I didn't deserve the right to have an opinion, and he just turned vile towards anything I had to say. I think it's funny that people have such a strong reaction to him. I get accused of not thinking for myself, but their over-reaction makes me wonder if they've ever even watched his show… or have they all received some liberal memo that says that Glenn Beck is EVIL?
I love Glenn Beck and I love The Onion, and I think the video is very funny. I did not take it as wishing Glenn dead; instead it was a devastating satire on people who think the main problem with the world is Glenn Beck. The Onion often pushes the envelope, and it is not for everyone, but I don't think in any way it is calling for Glenn Back's death.
Actually, I am paying attention. I've never seen George Will or William Buckley cry on camera, or raise their voices to make their points. Nor Charles Krautheimer. My objection to 'successful talk' is that it's all talk and no ideas. Just simple slogans and sound bites. As I said — in the end, it's about ratings and fat contracts, not serious discussions.
As for the 'left's in ability to be successful in talk radio' — it is interesting – just not simple.
Exactly. It reminds me of the douchebags who hung Sarah Palin in effigy. That kind of thing would NEVER be tolerated if done from someone on the Right. The thin skin is only on one side of the aisle….the Left.
I'm not a Beck fan (the shlock musician or the Fox TV guy), but this thing was almost painful in it's efforts to avoid being funny at all costs. The only way you could enjoy it is if you literally had been wishing the same thing. Kind of pathetic, if you ask me.
In a 'Truth is stranger than fiction' moment, Beck couldn't do his show today because he was rushed to the hospital with appendicitis. The human Mon-chi-chi, Andrew Napolitano filled in.
I wonder if the Onion will do a follow-up (and actually try to make it funny this time)?
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I told a friend about this story and he said, "Get back to me when there's a skit about Nancy Pelosi being run over by a float at a gay pride parade…"
Seriously, why can't Liberals see the Comedy forest through the trees? Fox really needs to do a comedy sketch show. Even if it's 1/2 hour a week, there is just too much comedy gold going un-mined.
If you can't coin a phrase once in a while you will have difficulty holding my attention. __There are many very smart people that can impress with there critical thinking but are unable or unwilling__to use a bit of wit to make a point. While the most liberal Mr.Gore made me grit my teeth to hear him speak he had a way of belittling someone and still twist the knife in that person deeply with relative few words. I don't attribute that ability to anyone in the Air America, NBC, MSM CNN or in the political talk category.__
If that's your taste, then you have to check Steyn out. He's been in a protracted fight with the Canadian Human Rights Board, or what ever they call it, their version of the thought police. And he and Ezra Levant are taking them apart, communist brick by communist brick.! He's subbing fro Rush on Friday the 6th.
Enjoy!
http://www.steynonline.com/content/blogsection/14...
I have heard Mr. Buckley raise his voice to make a point not Wills of course but Buckely had a talk show on NPR, of all places, but wills does not. While crying if real is bad enough, if make believe then its more amusing but I get your point, does histronics make a good presentation I don't neccessarily think so either. I don't watch Beck but believe he is doing Gods work.
If someone is fervant in their beliefs and gets excited about the demonstration of those beliefs then
is it such a bad thing. If you don't believe in his position then I guess you will say its make believe
and he is foolish.
I totally agree, Buckwheat about "caring" what they say. I do read The Onion from time to time and get a big kick out of it…sometimes not. Too often conservatives place a premium on being liked by the "cool kids" like the Onion, the dinosaur media or by Hollywood. They do so at the expense of principles. Besides, I roundly ridiculed CNN for deconstructing that SNL sketch. I don't want to fall into that trap. The final irony is that we in the Conservative/Libertarian camp are the true independents, the real opposition. They so-called "free-thinkers" have become the bleating sheep in today's society. They're the "establishment" now.
Thank you I will. For some reason I have neglected Mr Steyn's offerings with the exception of Rush's program.
Your friend is so absolutely right when he says "the answer to bad speech is more speech." Every time lowlifes like The Onion, MSNBC, CNN, or the Obama administration slam Glenn and Rush and Sean and Michelle they reply with more and BETTER speech. It's a boon for us talk junkies every time these shallow minds opens their mouth to slam the very people they should be holding a conversation with. (Still no call on the Red Phone either)
I have noticed that the Obamadroids completely ignore a woman I admire and adore: Tammy Bruce – maybe they're incapable of imagining a conservative gun toting lesbian. And if you disagree with me then you're probably a racist.
Off topic: I’d just like to say I liked your documentary which they still sell in Australia, at the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.
The Onion didn't 'wish' death on Glen Beck. It is SATIRE. It isn't a wish, it is SATIRE. The author is an idiot and a victim of satire, he inadvertently made himself part of the joke(as did Sanmon). As someone pointed out, The Onion satirizes everyone and everything. The partisan outrage is hilarious and just adds to the reasons we need satire. It is not a partisan webpage, but it sure points out the folly of being so blindly partisan, doesn't it?
excellent read. it has the one thing that will ALWAYS elude liberals; common sense.
By thin-skinned, do you mean like Obama?
Now this is funny.
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"I’m a hardcore libertarian. I read the Founders and feel like they’d be utterly stunned at the power the federal government has slowly and surely obtained. Some of my very close friends think that’s pure silliness, and we talk about it and hash it out and yell at each other. And after I win the debate, we all feel like we’ve learned something. But they’re right too. They just picked the wrong nation to want socialism in."
You said it better than I ever could. Thank you for that!
Are you kidding? Golf is a guy hitting a ball into a hole with a stick. Bowling is a guy rolling a ball at some pins. But curling, now, curling has strategy and finesse! It's not just a game of "put the projectile where you want it to go", like those other games, but also a game of "what is my opponent going to do, and how will what I'm doing now affect his plans?"
Seriously, curling is the chess of sports.
You may be correct, and they aren't, as satirical or as funny as they could be, which is sad. I'm not a writer of any kind, but there appears to be plenty of material to lampoon the current administration, that's going to waste.
I think the video is hilarious. It's making fun of the MSM's Glenn Beck paranoia, not Glenn himself. C'mon.
Say it ain't so! I love Kenny vs Spenny. It is one of the funniest (and nuttiest) shows on any form of TV.
*burrowed from another poster in another thread who borrowed it from a guest on Dennis Miller's show*
Obama's so thin skinned he has a reservoir tip atop his head.
I do hope they plan to change the sheets soon. They've got so many media whores in bed with them at the WH that the stink is hard to miss.
When you realize that liberals love evil, and that they wish to destroy all that is good, then their actions will begin to make sense.
This *isn't* a war against flesh and blood.
For lack of a nail, the shoe was lost.
For lack of a shoe, the mount was lost.
For lack of a horse, the message was not delivered.
For lack of an undelivered message, the war was lost.
Well, today we tried to deliver the message right to the Capitol steps. whether anyone was listening is another matter. As for the war, we'll keep trying to delivery messages until the black helicopters come and stop us.
Through out modern history, even in the face pf the greatest tyranny, people could always dream of a far away make believe land called America, where maybe, just maybe, if they could slip under the wire, past the dogs, through the mine field and dodge the searchlights there they find a land of peace, safety, and freedom.
Too many Americans have taken that for granted. And now here we stand at the fork in the road. Should we fail, we will not have that luxury of running away. They will be no far away land to run to. It will be a bleak world split between socialist totalitarian slavery, Islamo-fanatics, failed thrid world states, or war torn chaos. Tahati isn't planning universal health care any time soon are they? Or maybe the Republic of Texas?
It is illegal to deny hiring, promoting or housing anyone due to race, national origin, or sexual orientation. I don't recall any move to BAN homosexuality.
The Constitution protects everyones rights, up to the point that your rights impinge on mine. An abortion to save the mothers life, etc, sure. An abortion as a means of retroactive birth control. And now you want MY tax dollars to fund it? I DEFY you to watch an ultra sound video about 6 months in and tell me you're not committing MURDER. Do you think Planned Parenthood's director bailed for no reason? Go on and watch. I DARE YOU. I double dare you. They available all over the internet. But you won't. You just might have to step down off you're lib soap box and face the reality. Most lib positions aren't just classroom theories and thought experiments.. They have real world consequences.
A glimpse was delivered last Tuesday. A taste was given as you described. The big message will be dropped into their laps November 2010.
Wow… there are people that actually believe The Onion is a real news source and publicly advocated for someone to kill Glenn Beck?
How is that video not a hate crime in the eyes of 'liberals'. If you replaced Beck with any individual of any race, creed or color other than white, conservative, and ( insert religious belief here ) it would be a hate video. But because it's Glenn Beck…it's somehow acceptable? How soon would the Secret Service be at your door if you created a Youtube video with Borack Nobama as the victim?
Hi, Mr. Wilson, I'm from town.
"receiv(ing) real, honest-to-goodness death threats on a daily basis … (is) a terrible thing, whether the threats are against Glenn or Michael Moore."
Or how about by Glenn about Michael Moore?
http://mediamatters.org/research/200505180008
I'm curious about what argument can be made to defend this that doesn't simultaneously defend the Onion piece?
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