What the Democrats Can Learn from the Beatles
by Michael S. Rulle Jr.Forty years ago this week the cover photo for the “Abbey Road” album was taken, representing the final walk of the Beatles as a rock group.
Fourteen days later, on August 22nd, they posed together for a final promotional photo shoot, which was their last appearance together at any Beatles event. Although one more album was released (”Let it Be”), “Abbey Road” was the last album recorded by the band, which was already virtually dissolved as a unit. Yet the album was a great artistic and commercial success. The “Let it Be” album was intended to be released first, but the group did not think it ready. They moved on to record “Abbey Road” and released it on September 26th and October 1st, 1969, respectively, in the UK and the US. The cover photo, fittingly designed by Paul (as he was the only member who had a passion to keep the group together; even as he finally sued to end the partnership), depicts the band’s final crossing of “Abbey Road,” toward their studio home of the prior eight years. Ironically, even bizarrely, convicted murderer and “wall of sound” creator, Phil Specter, did the final mixing in 1970 of several songs on “Let it Be,” almost as an audition. He was not aware there would be no more Beatles, although he did some work for Lennon’s Plastic Ono Band.
I was, and am, a great Beatles fan. Then again, most rock music lovers are. As a fan of professional sports, I found many similarities in these seemingly dissimilar cultures. An obvious similarity is both have Halls of Fame. Both cultures encourage respect for the success of the great ones who came before them, as well as those contemporaneous to them. The Beatles, for example, loved Buddy Holly’s group “Buddy Holly and the Crickets” and, of course, Elvis (Lennon said “before Elvis there was nothing”). Even their name, in part at least, was recognized by them to be similar to the Crickets and helped them choose the name “Beatles” (prior names included Johnny and the Moondogs, and The Silver Beetles).
Of course, not everyone is a Beatles fan. Lead singer Michael Stipe, of the group R.E.M, when asked in a 1992 Rolling Stone interview about the Beatles and the Rolling Stones, responded that the Beatles were like elevator music. He did not even respond to the Stone’s question. Stipe, I believe, was being honest. Yet, his lack of awareness as to their impact was profound. I know “standing on the shoulders of giants” leaves him cold, but that sentiment also reflects a severe lack of existential awareness. I have never felt the same about Stipe or R.E.M. since.
In 2008, a book in “words, pictures and music” by Barry Miles, named The Beatles Phenomenon, was published. Miles wrote McCartney’s official biography in 1998. My 17-year-old daughter spent five weeks at Oxford this summer (studying Shakespeare and playing “Hamlet’s” Guildenstern in the Oxford debating hall; yes, Guildenstern). My birthday occurred while she was away. One of her classmates had just bought Miles’ book for her brother’s birthday. My daughter, who became a Beatles fan from the 2007 movie musical “Across the Universe,” bought the book for me for my birthday. What is interesting about this is, 40 years after the last Beatles album, teenagers are still buying Beatles books. Before I get into my primary “thesis” and inevitable political “take away” about the Beatles, there are a few facts I find fascinating about the group. In no particular order, here are a few:
-Their famous “mop top” haircut was designed by Astrid Kirchherr, girlfriend of Lennon’s art school friend and early band member, Stuart Sutcliff. I already knew that. What I did not know, is she copied the style from the French movie actor Jean Marais’s portrayal of Oedipus in a 1959 Jean Cocteau movie (”Le Testament d’Orphee”). The Oedipus irony is priceless, given the cultural, political and social revolution which was the 1960s.
-The first top 20 hit by the Rolling Stones (UK) was given to them by the Beatles. It was “I Wanna be Your Man.” The fact that Ringo sang it one year later is amusing. The Stones were desperate to get an album out and enlisted Lennon and McCartney’s help. The Beatles literally completed writing the song (which they already had begun earlier) in the presence of the Stones in the latter’s studio in less than an hour. As Lennon later said “that’s how much importance we put on it.”
-Of the 183 songs written by the Beatles, 73 were written by Lennon, 69 McCartney, 17 Lennon/McCartney, 22 Harrison, and two Ringo. Lennon and McCartney agreed their songs would always have a joint credit. I always thought McCartney had written more, but this was incorrect.
-The number one selling rock group from 2000-2009 is still the Beatles, having sold 27 million albums. According to Billboard, the Beatles have had 19 number one albums. Elvis was second at 10, tied with Jay-Z. Tied for fourth are Springsteen and the Stones with nine. The Beatles and Elvis are the only acts estimated to have sold more than a billion albums. Michael Jackson, ABBA, and Queen sold about 350 million. The Stones sold 200 million, Springsteen 120 million, and Jay-Z 50 million. Paul McCartney and Wings sold almost as many albums as Springsteen, 100 million (not counted in Beatles total). Michael Stipe’s R.E.M, sold 50 million. Not bad for a group who hates standing on the shoulders of giants.
-Finally, on the trivia front, which segues nicely to the next paragraph, is that McCartney, Lennon and Harrison first picked up a guitar in 1956 (Paul) and 1957 (John and George). Six years later they were the most famous group in history at that point in time, as well as since. How did this happen?
As a child and young teenager, I lived and died for the Los Angeles Dodgers. I read all things Dodgers, that I could get my hands on. That meant reading about the Brooklyn Dodgers. Branch Rickey, the famous and successful Brooklyn Dodger GM who signed Jackie Robinson, once said “luck is the residue of design.” This quote always stuck with me. Baseball is driven at the micro level by randomness and luck. It is a game of probabilities; a bounce of the ball this way, a failed close call that way, a great timely play by an outfielder, etc. Over the long run, however, the best tend to win out.
The Beatles were, of course, lucky. Working with Brian Epstein and George Martin was timely and serendipitous. But their luck, too, was the residue of design. If it wasn’t Martin and Epstein, it would have been someone else. Why? Their work ethic and commitment to being a successful rock group was phenomenal. Lennon and McCartney came together in 1960, joined shortly thereafter by George Harrison (who himself aggressively sought acceptance by Lennon and McCartney). There were a number of other members who came and went, the most famous being Pete Best the drummer. He was fired before their first album was cut, and a drummer from one of Liverpool’s top groups, “Rory Storm and the Hurricanes,” Ringo Starr, was hired in his place.
As Barry Miles documents, their workload was astonishing. Between August 1960 and early 1963, they performed more than 800 hours on stage (not including practice) in Hamburg, Germany alone. During that same time period, they appeared almost 300 times at Liverpool’s “The Cavern.” This does not include other venues they played. This is astonishing and surely accounts for their success. Yes, they had skill, but work is what made them the Beatles. George Harrison said: “[In Germany] we learned to work for hours on end, and keep on working at full peak even though we reckoned our legs and arms were ready to drop off.” This work ethic created their prolific song writing ability. McCartney describes their first recording session for the album “Please Please Me”:
We’d been playing the songs for months and months and months before getting a record out. So we came in the studio at 10 in the morning, started it, did one number, had a cup of tea, relaxed, did the next one, a couple of overdubs…we just worked through them, like the stage act. And by 10′ o’clock that night, we’d done ten songs and we just reeled out of the studios, John clutching his throat tablets.
They also were among the first singer song writers in history. This was rarely done prior to the 1960s. They released 12 original albums (one double) between 1963 and the beginning of 1970; additionally they released 30 non-album tracks. Elvis never wrote a song. They did two full length feature films, did hundreds of radio and television appearances (when counting interviews). They lived in close to squalid conditions and played for little money prior to late 1962. They also were heavy users of various forms of amphetamines. They consciously sought diversity in their sound and the songs they played. They were willing to play covers as well as their own songs. They drove themselves to improve. Any venue was an opportunity.
When Brian Epstein happened on to them in 1962 in Liverpool, he saw great potential, although he had no experience as a producer, being merely a record shop owner. But he was a promotional wizard at heart and committed himself to their success. He also took advantage of the Beatles’ business naivete (which they eventually over came). He signed a deal in which he received 25% of the gross (normal was 10%) and the Beatles paid expenses and split the remainder. Still, the Beatles never resented Epstein. Lennon always said that Epstein provided the organizational and marketing skills to supplement their work ethic to make them successful. The Beatles, at Epstein’s urging, were also willing to stop wearing denim and leather and switch to those funky suits. They felt no less “authentic.” More than 70 million people watched each of the two Ed Sullivan appearances in early 1964 when they first came to America. They sounded great. The population of the US was 180 million. To put that in perspective, Obama and Palin each drew about 40 million to their nominating speeches in a country of 300 million.
The Beatles were obviously great. They were great because they are fun to listen to. They could make it seem so easy, which makes them even more fun to listen to. The White Album, consisting of about 35 songs, was an astonishing random assortment of various sounds and melodies. It was as if they were playing with their competition. But it was not easy. It came out of effort as well as brilliance.
So what political message am I going to pull from this 40th anniversary of the dissolution of the Beatles? It is obvious, right? They were poor, but not victims. They did not ask for hand outs. They could not have been invented by a government program. They pursued self interest but provided enjoyment for hundreds of millions. Why is this not the message of our current president and his congressional allies? Why does Sonya Sotomayor credit affirmative action, rather than her own hard work, for her success? She distorts what should be her message. Why does the Democratic Party look to give to protected groups of people while taking from others? Why aren’t we encouraging work and the entrepreneurial spirit instead of demonizing the profit motive? McCartney is worth 1.5 billion. As economist Don Boudreaux says, “only $1.5 billion?” Not everyone who works as hard and as passionately as the Beatles will become mega-wealthy, but without hard work and motivation, there can never be any success. Why is this not the economic message of our day? As George Harrison once sang, we have this instead from our Government.
Let me tell you how it will be,
There’s one for you, nineteen for me,
‘Cos I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.
Should five per cent appear too small,
Be thankful I don’t take it all.
‘Cos I’m the Taxman,
Yeah yeah, I’m the Taxman.
(If you drive a car car), I’ll tax the street,
(If you try to sit sit), I’ll tax your seat,
(If you get too cold cold), I’ll tax the heat,
(If you take a walk walk), I’ll tax your feet.
Taxman.
‘Cos I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.
Don’t ask me what I want it for
(Ah Ah! Mister Wilson!)
If you don’t want to pay some more
(Ah Ah! Mister Heath!),
‘Cos I’m the Taxman,
Yeeeah, I’m the Taxman.
Now my advice for those who die, (Taxman!)
Declare the pennies on your eyes, (Taxman!)
‘Cos I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.
And you’re working for no-one but me,
(Taxman).





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The Democratic Party does it because they feel guilty.
Ha! Zo, my wife , and I performed Taxman @ the July 3rd Glendale Tea Party.
Sorry, I can not separate my politics and entertainment.
Great post! Life long Beatles fanatic. First album was the Chipmunks sing the Beatles Greatest hits, then discovered the real thing.
I've always wondered how each Beatle reconciled their crazy wealth compared to their liberal world views. Especially John. I would have expected John and Yoko to have given it all away from their bed. Paul always struck me as a shrewd business man, maybe I'm wrong, I don't know for sure. George struck me as tight with his money, and Ringo just seemed like he was enjoying the ride.
Either way, they were the best!
I got that album when I was six,the rest is history!
The first album I ever bought was Meet the Beatles. And I wore it out. Now 45 years later, one of my daughters just gave the other one a vinyl copy of the White Album for her birthday. The Beatles' music is immortal and I can't imagine another group doing what they did, although we constantly hear, "as big as…,"" as good as…," and all sorts of idiocy. Many of their recordings are junk, but when you can hear the sheer perfection of "Yesterday" or "Come Together," you just relish in the fact that you grew up in a time when this music was in the world.
friends, how will you take it when i tell you that while i am a huge fan of rock, yet not so much the beatles?!
*ducking*
Forty years ago . The Great Society was sputtering along and each and every democrat in Washington was starting to realize what a gravy train really looked like. Well the train has pulled into the station,the conductor doesn't know where he is,the doors are jammed, and the caboose is on fire.
Thirty years ago. Today, Sgt Pepper taught the band to………..
Hmmm…didn't the Beatles all move outside England because of the outrageous taxes there? Is that the lesson? Strike it rich and then move overseas to avoid high taxes? I'm pretty sure that's a Republican lesson, not a Democratic one. Rock hard, take a lot of drugs & party with lots of chicks–THAT's the Deocratic lesson!
If you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You aint gonna make it with anyone anyhow
I don't know why but I can separate some of the Beatles politics from their music. I usually cannot do that with leftists and their pitiful ideology.
I still listen to Abbey Road and other Beatles recordings.
You're correct, Mr. Rulle, they were/are fun to listen to.
Now, as a life long St. Louis Cardinal fan, we've go to talk about your Dodger love!! The Cards will be in LA. late this month and my son, who is a college student in LA ,will be there for two of the games in his Cardinal red.
Interesting movie for Beatles fans: _Backbeat_
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106339/
Indeed, there are a few that pass the test of time. Didn't William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy do some Beatles covers. Outrageously painful!
When we lived in Germany, my son used to ask if we go to the "Beatle Mall." If John, Paul, George or Ringo's image could be stamped on it, they had it. Never seen so much, umm, stuff in my whole life. Kooky & cool! I remember reading a Playboy article from 1969 with John a few years back and something he said really struck me:
LENNON: Where do people get off saying the Beatles should give $200,000,000 to South America? You know, America has poured billions into places like that. It doesn't mean a damn thing. After they've eaten that meal, then what? It lasts for only a day. After the $200,000,000 is gone, then what? You can pour money in forever.
Sounds almost like a fiscal conservative to me!
The heck with politics, let's talk Beatles. Michael, you summed up my feelings for Stipe exactly. Oblivious fool that he is. I remember thinking just what you said when I read his comments about the Beatles. I just saw a show in New Orleans performed by a Beatles tribute band called "American English". They were exceptionally good. If you're a Beatles fan, look for them to come to your area. And, finally, I was not aware that the Beatles had sold that many albums in the 2000's. Truly a testament to their timeless greatness. I grew up in the 60"s and I've always wondered if there will come a day when I grow tired of the Beatles music. Well, I'm 60 now and it hasn't happened yet. It most likely never will.
John Lennon was the first to move out of the U.K. Ringo maintains several homes, principally in Beverly Hills and Monte Carlo. George lived in England all his life, though he also had a house in Hawaii. At the height of their fame and moneymaking capabilities (1965-66), the highest marginal tax rate in Britain was over 90%. That's what George's song was about.
While jealously guarding their own wealth…ask a Kennedy.
Don't duck. Your not alone. There good no doubt, but not my favorite. I also don't get Zeppelin or U2 so there ya go! My first actual Rock album was The Rolling Stones "Sticky Fingers" which I got at the ripe old age of seven! Helps having an older brother sometimes…………….
Meh, the Beatles were (and remain) very close to what Michael Stipe says they are (which is still better than REM's music, but not by much). Perhaps the most overrated band of all time. And I say that as a rock fan who is certainly not ignorant of their impact. Am I the only one who finds their music tedious? Just about all the bad trends in rock music (including the almost inevitable descent of most bands into incoherent political ramblings later in their careers) can be traced back to the Beatles.
I consider all this kneeling at the throne of the Beatles to be similar to the adulation of Michael Jackson. Just one big collective delusion. Much can be said about many other bands, including Led Zeppelin and the Stones. Good music, perhaps, but nothing that I can see that is remotely timeless. Of course, that can be said about rock music in general.
Okay, I'm overstating things a bit, but truly excellent music among rock musicians is a rare thing. Comparatively, even the music penned by the Beatles is third rate in the grand scheme of things. And I refuse to hold rock music to a different set of values than any other work of art.
That album cover helped fuel the "Paul is dead' rumor mill. John in white represents the pastor, Ringo in black the undertaker, Paul is shoeless (per the Tibetan book of the Dead), George in jeans is the grave digger. The Volkswagen licence plate 281F, is supposed to say "28 IF" as in Paul would have been 28 if he lived. All crazy stuff, but then back in the day we were playing albums backwards and getting all sorts of messages. Course, there was a lot of pharmaceutical experimentation going on, too. Not me, just sayin'.
There is no good music. There is no bad music. There is just music you like and music you don't.
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love the stones. saw them in concert, and even as geezers they owned everyone.
You're an asshole and all 4 Beatles would hate you.
Dennis Prager says if only successful liberals "preached what they practice." Hard work, Dedication, Personal Responsibility. I think that's the point about the Beatles – the ultimate hippie era liberal icons. Ironically, they behaved like conservatives or at least libertarians, in regard to their work ethic and drive.
Personally, I've always preferred Pet Sounds to Sergeant Pepper.
I can only laught at and somewhat pity those who don't "get" The Beatles. And don't even get me started on Dylan. Who taught them they could to go beyond Yeah Yeah Yeah and still be fun and entertaining. "If you want money for people with minds that hate, all I can tell you is, buddy, you'll have to wait. If you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao, you ain't going to make it with anyone, anyhow." This is not the voice of the left despite what folks think about Lennon's politics. He naively thought that war could be ended if we all just wanted it to end. True enough, in theory but like most dreamers he underestimated the determination and perhaps even the existence of evil until one killed him. This did not make him a bad person, however.
Ditto to that!
Sorry…Bill Shatner warbling "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds" is definitely BAD music. However, it is BAD music that I like. One of life's mysteries…
Dear ern,
Its always hard to argue taste. I certainly disagree with you that the Beatles music will be third rate in the grand scheme of things. Its only been 40 years, but each generation seems to still be interested, regardless of their own politics, cultural associations and knowledge. Of course, 40 years is not 200 years (like Beethoven). But I think its too early to say. I agree Michael Jackson will be forgotten within 20 years, REM probably sooner. But I think the Beatles have "legs."
I am curious, who in "Rock" do you think is artistically better and has an ultimately longer lasting body of work?
I agree you don't have to worship at the alter, but give them there due.
I'm jealous. I've tried about ten times over the past 25 years to see the stones and each and every time a major disaster happens. Everything from a car accident 3 hours before the show to a flooded house the day of the show! Arrg! I think it's a conspiracy to keep me from seeing them………
TAXMAN…My second favorite political song after Cream's "Politician."
Well, if you only listen to their hits, then I agree. Their songs that didn't become huge singles are the songs I love best…same goes for Led Zeppelin…I still don't get U2.
Sgt Peppers was just experimental; Pet Sounds has better vocals by a mile.
"depicts the band’s final crossing of “Abbey Road,” toward their studio home of the prior eight years"
Slight correction: they're crossing away from the studio. The symbolism was deliberate- going over the proof sheets the Fabs rejected out of hand all the shots of them going the other way.
I suppose insane taxes are one of the reasons why so many established Brit bands recorded in Switzerland, Munich, Southern France, New York or California. They certainly drove out quite a few actors. Sean Connery, for example – he wasn´t hypocritical about it. Came right out and said why.
Or maybe modern liberals are even more insane than 1960s liberals. Figures, since they are standing on their shoulders.
-"The first top 20 hit by the Rolling Stones (UK) was given to them by the Beatles. It was “I Wanna be Your Man.” The fact that Ringo sang it one year later is amusing."
—— Actually, both versions were released at the same time: November 1963. The Stones' version came out on a single; The Beatles' version was on the British "With the Beatles" LP.
oh man,stop trying before someone loses their eye!
U who?!
The Beatles showed all of us musicians how to make a record……specifically an album.
How to sequence songs, etc.
And though I love me some Pet Sounds, most of the instruments were played by the best session musicians money can buy.( I don't have a problem with that, btw. Carol Kaye is a hero of mine) With a few exceptions the Beatles played their own instruments.
There isn't a rock musician on this planet who hasn't ripped off the Beatles
Also I find it funny that Stipe would call the Beatles music " elevator music". REM covered "Wichita Lineman", for chrissakes.
From time to time I come across someone who smugly asserts the Beatles were "overrated". Conversation killer. I know everything I need to know about that person: insecure phony.
I wouldn't say that every rock musician has ripped off The Beatles. Most of them, but not all of them.
Frank Zappa mocked them, but I wouldn't say that he really ripped them off.
Frank Zappa was an exception to every rule, IMO. Genius.
But I stand by my statement.
Well on FZ I can agree with you completely!
I used to listen to the Cards play the Dodgers with broadcasters Jack Buck and Harry Caray on my radio late night–from Long Island!—picking up the static broadcast from LA–rare I could pick up the Card home games games. It was fun. Gibson, McCarver, Boyer, Javier, White etc–versus the great ones Koufax and Drysdale.
Buck could sure announce. Ironic for me that his Kirk Gibson call is still one of the greatest calls of all time–almost my last passionate year as a Dodger fan. Too bad.
You are funny–I guess you just don't like them
Perhaps
I neither like you nor dislike you.
Nice catch–makes sense too
That's a good one
I think they were different politically then, than people realize. They were not part of the new left—they resisted being sucked in
Hey—I know seemingly endless people (I live in Jersey) who love Springsteen–but I could never get into anything he wrote. Who knows why we like what we like? Certainly, not me.
I agree–these tribute bands are pretty good! I will look for American English–thanks!
That's probably because Pet Sounds was/is better. In fact, Sergaent Pepper doesn't exist except for Pet Sounds. I don't know if he still feels this way…but Paul McCartney was quoted as saying God Only Knows was his favorite song…so, there you go. I'm a fan of the Beatles…especially their later stuff (which is reverse than most groups) but I think that stuff Brian Wilson produced in late '64 thru '66 is some of the best, if not the best, pop/rock music ever. But, hey, that's just me.
Great article.
I hate to tell Michael Stipe this, but I think I've heard a few R.E.M. songs while I was grocery shopping (haven't taken many elevators lately).
The Beatles Forever.
I saw Gibson , Koufax, Drysdale, Marichal and many more of that era live and in person. I was a young kid but it has never left me. I think the station out of St. Louis was 1020 KMOX, if I'm not mistaken.
Bill White was the Card first baseman who later ended up as President of the National League, I think.
The Cardinals, due to KMOX and its' coverage and the type of teams they had, ruled the Midwest and the South.
Why aren't you a fan anymore? It's still a great game if you ignore the crap that goes on around it. Same as the Beatles!!!
Some people THINK that the Beatles are the greatest ever rock 'n' roll band. I KNOW it's the Stones.
"Rocket Man!"
You've got that right TJ not only do the Democrats want to redistribute the Wealth but the Guilt too. Whether you have it or not.
Good article, though I disagree with a couple points.
1) The Beatles were a pop band, not a rock band. They were a monumentally important band, but couldn't rock the way actual rock bands ( the Kinks, The Yardbirds, The Who and of course the 'Stones) could.
2) The first "singer-songwriters" whose recordings were mass-produced were the blues men of the 20's and 30's starting with the legendary Robert Johnson, pre-dating the Beatles by some 40 years.
3) While they recorded albums later in their career, originally they only recorded singles that were repackaged as albums by the record company. Yes it can be argued that was the British system, but the point is they had a goal of writing hit singles, not albums.
Other than that I have to admit I feel they are often over-rated. Not to the degree that some have stated, but over-rated none the less. While they were phenomenal songwriters ( except Ringo- come on Octopus' Garden?!?!?) they weren't the top flight musicians many of their peers were. Their live performances were quick and to the point, almost rushed. More of a public appearance for smitten fans than a concert for music lovers. Compare that to the likes of 1-hit wonders Jimi Hendrix and Led Zeppelin or high energy acts like The Who or blues based rock groups like The Yardbirds and The Stones. Its like comparing Nickelback to the Jonas Brothers. Well maybe not tha bad, but you get the point.
When we lived in Germany, my son used to ask if we go to the "Beatles Mall." If John, Paul, George or Ringo's image could be stamped on it, they had it. Never seen so much, umm, stuff in my whole life. Kooky & cool! I remember reading a Playboy article with John a few years back and something he said really struck me:
LENNON: Where do people get off saying the Beatles should give $200,000,000 to South America? You know, America has poured billions into places like that. It doesn't mean a damn thing. After they've eaten that meal, then what? It lasts for only a day. After the $200,000,000 is gone, then what? You can pour money in forever.
Sounds almost like a fiscal conservative to me!
Being self-educated, self-motivated and a person unafraid to do the dirty work when it means getting the job done I can not tell you how much their ideology perplexes me. It's easy to relate to the Beatles work ethic and how they started. This 9-5 stuff is not what makes a project successful. You go and go until the job is done. And then you take your break. If there is no sense of urgency then the edge is gone.
How does that square with the kind of world they want to perpetrate on me? It doesn't. Hence why the next move is on hold until we can ascertain what in the hell these people are going to do. Who else out there is pulling back?
Thats not a healthy trend.
My son converted me over to the darkest of dark sides– the NY Yankees! We are hoping for a World Series. I will be highly conflicted!
**Why does the Democratic Party look to give to protected groups of people while taking from others? Why aren’t we encouraging work and the entrepreneurial spirit instead of demonizing the profit motive? McCartney is worth 1.5 billion. As economist Don Boudreaux says, “only $1.5 billion?” Not everyone who works as hard and as passionately as the Beatles will become mega-wealthy, but without hard work and motivation, there can never be any success. Why is this not the economic message of our day? As George Harrison once sang, we have this instead from our Government.**
msr,
ever have a read of Atlas Shurgged by Ayn Rand? Chapter 4 might sum the above up…..
thanks always for the stream of consciousness…
best.
m2
I gag at the thought of having any interaction with any Kennedy of any Generation at any time. So I'll leave the asking to the Big Guy. Not only does He have questions. He has all the Answers. Let's see who they' re contected to there that wants to be conected toThem.
To deny the talent of the Beatles would be dumb. I love their music and always will, even though they are wacky liberals. A work ethic is someone else’s problem in the liberal mind, unless envy is considered hard work?
Heh. Sort of like people who assert that they "never watch tv" for me.
within you without you
Revolution `number nine' backwards really says `turn me on dead man' do it and see!
I am a big Beatles fan, and I enjoyed your article. Taxman was George's song, and maybe The Beatles would have stayed together given the chance to keep more of their earnings. A decent premise?
I will pass on my favorite Beatles trivia question.
How many people can you name that were once called "The Fifth Beatle"?
Here is my list:
George Martin – Producer
Brian Epstein – Manager
Pete Best – 1st Drummer
Stuart Sutcliffe – 1st Bassist
Jimmy Nichol – 3rd Drummer (filled in for sick Ringo on tour)
Neil Aspinall – Road Manager
Yoko Ono – John's wife
Eric Clapton – Played guitar on "While My Guitar Gently Weeps"
Billy Preston – Played keyboard on "Get Back"
Murray "Murray the K" Kaufman – DJ and self proclaimed 5th Beatle
William Shears Campbell – supposed Paul replacement after Paul's "death"
Funny perhaps, but all I thought when I saw this in relation to politics was Obama and "Nowhere Man".
Eric Clapton – Played guitar on "While My Guitar Gently Weeps"
Great tune… performed by Clapton.
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Trying to read Atlas Shrugged now…it requires absolute silence, a straight back and a pot of coffee. Good Lord–it's an insomnia cure otherwise!
Yankees!! I'll pray for you.
Ern said: "And I refuse to hold rock music to a different set of values than any other work of art."
Think of it like this, Ern: do you apply the same "set of values" to all sports? Consider a statement like, "Michael Jordan is better than Tiger Woods." It has no meaning, without the context or "set of values", i.e. better at what? basketball, golf, humanitarianism, etc.
The Beatles took a particular form (wait a second and think about this word form. . . ) of music that consisted of rules (unwritten, but known to the record-buying consumers of the time) not unlike games: 3-5 guys singing and playing at least bass, drums, and guitar/piano; playing songs written for that number of performers and those instruments which lasted no longer than 2 minutes and could be played live while people danced to it, looking cool while doing so, etc.
The statement, "The Mighty Five (Russian composers/musicians Mily Balakirev, César Cui, Modest Mussorgsky, Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov, and Alexander Borodin) are better than The Fab Four (British composers/musicians John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison, and Ringo Starr)", has NO MEANING! Better at what? Playing pick-up sticks with their buttcheeks (RIP Del Griffin)? Making money (certainly not true)? Making music (no doubt closer to your point about the same "set of values") – music with an orchestra or music with a 1960's rock band?!!!
Let's get this straight. I knew when I saw that REM was getting popular that the dumbing down of this nation was really sinking in. I have met two people who went to conservatories–one, the Eastman School of Music in Rochester, the other to the Oberlin Conservatory in Ohio–and both told me that they might not have entered the field of music had it not been for the Beatles. Can you name anyone that went to a conservatory because of that moron Michael Stipe and his overrated group? Stipe flunked out of the University of Georgia, and you can tell that he's kinda dumb because his lyrics are insipid.
As for Tom King's comments, Tom, everyone admits that Harrison was not his friend Clapton; that Ringo was not his drinking buddy Keith Moon…and so forth. But ask any drummer and Ringo will always get compliments (don't ask anybody from the DUH generation—-18-30; they are pathetically stupid about everything). Sting once said that Paul was "the Gov'ner" when it came to the bass. I have heard trained bass players say he was the best in the business. And I love Entwhistle and Jack Bruce!! The Beatles were simply the best. You don't think they can rock? Are you kidding? Have you listened to the second side of Abbey Road? C'mon, Tom!!
Too funny….i'm cramming it in everywhere: park, lunch, subway. Very much enjoyed (read) and yes, I am now sleeping! Didnt connect the dots…
two inaccuracies.
1. John and Paul first met in 1957. George was brought into the band by Paul in 1958.
2. Elvis has writing credit on a couple of early songs and did tthe arrangements to many of his songs in the 50's.
First let me say that I'm a huge Beatle fan but you left out some things.
Drugs, mainly amphetamines, helped the Beatles do all those shows, especially in Hamburg.
The Beatles actually almost broke up after George was kicked out of Germany for being underage. They came back disillusioned at their lack of success. I forget now what got them back together.
You could argue that one of the reasons Brian Epstein was interested in the Beatles is because he was gay. Not only gay but a self-loathing gay who would hang around "rough trade" bars in Liverpool. John Lennon was a horrible lout and a bully and Epstein was particularly attracted to him.
They, especially Lennon, initially hated the suits he bought them.
And they had lots of luck running into Epstein and Martin. Lots of people slug it out for years and years and never make it. The work ethic thing doesn't always work out.
Lastly, there's always been a theory that part of the reason for there success in America and hence the world is that they arrived on the scene only a couple of months after John Kennedy was assasinated. The country was still in morning and yearning for something new and fresh and the Beatles fit the bill.
Oops, make that "their success" and "The country was still in mourning". I should know better. I used to be a proofreader.
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