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	<title>Comments on: A Conservative Journey Through Literary America &#8211; Part 8: The Way Forward</title>
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		<title>By: Mike_Kriskey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike_Kriskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we&#039;re saying the same thing then. 
 
A realistic (and therefore to some degree sympathetic) villain&#039;s purpose is to be defeated.  I agree that if your villain (or your hero) is portrayed one-dimensionally, you haven&#039;t told a good story. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#039;re saying the same thing then. </p>
<p>A realistic (and therefore to some degree sympathetic) villain&#039;s purpose is to be defeated.  I agree that if your villain (or your hero) is portrayed one-dimensionally, you haven&#039;t told a good story.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 14:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you, Mike. Perhaps I worded my original comment poorly. But it&#039;s worth noting that all of those characters are also the most interesting and *appealing* characters in their respective poems and plays. MacBeth is downright sympathetic at various points. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you, Mike. Perhaps I worded my original comment poorly. But it&#039;s worth noting that all of those characters are also the most interesting and *appealing* characters in their respective poems and plays. MacBeth is downright sympathetic at various points.</p>
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		<title>By: JeffPerren</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeffPerren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 13:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Persistence is key, but it&#039;s not whining to point out that the odds are stacked against any writer who creates morally good characters in interesting plots.  
  
Today&#039;s market divides (like films) into roughly two categories: &#039;serious&#039; literature with grim characters in grim, plotless novels and &#039;entertaining&#039; books about crude, crass, juvenile nonsense of interest to virtually no one. There are exceptions, but rarely.  
  
A &#039;serious&#039; novel about a Latina transgendered professor of eco-anthropology battling the evil forces of &#039;big business&#039; to save the rain forest in Africa would go over well. An &#039;entertaining&#039; novel about some dippy ex-housewife searching the world&#039;s desert locations for the perfect tan, dripping with cynicism to suggest that humans can never be anything better than this creature, might also get a favorable consideration.  
  
But even such lightweight but skilled writers like Ken Follett and Jeffrey Archer would probably never get published if they were starting out today, unless they had personal connections.  
  
If there&#039;s a literary agent alive who is not a nihilist, left-wing, or post-modern I&#039;ve yet to run across him or her after five years of serious searching. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Persistence is key, but it&#039;s not whining to point out that the odds are stacked against any writer who creates morally good characters in interesting plots.  </p>
<p>Today&#039;s market divides (like films) into roughly two categories: &#039;serious&#039; literature with grim characters in grim, plotless novels and &#039;entertaining&#039; books about crude, crass, juvenile nonsense of interest to virtually no one. There are exceptions, but rarely.  </p>
<p>A &#039;serious&#039; novel about a Latina transgendered professor of eco-anthropology battling the evil forces of &#039;big business&#039; to save the rain forest in Africa would go over well. An &#039;entertaining&#039; novel about some dippy ex-housewife searching the world&#039;s desert locations for the perfect tan, dripping with cynicism to suggest that humans can never be anything better than this creature, might also get a favorable consideration.  </p>
<p>But even such lightweight but skilled writers like Ken Follett and Jeffrey Archer would probably never get published if they were starting out today, unless they had personal connections.  </p>
<p>If there&#039;s a literary agent alive who is not a nihilist, left-wing, or post-modern I&#039;ve yet to run across him or her after five years of serious searching.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Montbriand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Montbriand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 08:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take it from a guy who loves to read and will someday write non-fiction history, journals suck.  If you have boys and make them write in journals, you will turn them off.   When I took the ACT, my english score dragged me way down on the total, I hated english.  Guess what?  In the 12 years after high school spent reading vast quanties my english skills have caught up.  A love of reading will, in time, cover any weaknesses. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take it from a guy who loves to read and will someday write non-fiction history, journals suck.  If you have boys and make them write in journals, you will turn them off.   When I took the ACT, my english score dragged me way down on the total, I hated english.  Guess what?  In the 12 years after high school spent reading vast quanties my english skills have caught up.  A love of reading will, in time, cover any weaknesses.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike_Kriskey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike_Kriskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 02:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Know what&#039;s on the Tolkiens&#039; tombstones? 
 
&quot;Beren&quot; and &quot;Luthien.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Know what&#039;s on the Tolkiens&#039; tombstones? </p>
<p>&quot;Beren&quot; and &quot;Luthien.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 02:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cringe every time I see a derisive comment about how the Great Books are &quot;shoved&quot; at you in school. There&#039;s a reason why these books are considered great, and even genre writers should take the time and put forth the effort to figure out *why* they&#039;re great. Even Stephen King reads Ian McEwan and Cormac McCarthy, in addition to genre fiction. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cringe every time I see a derisive comment about how the Great Books are &quot;shoved&quot; at you in school. There&#039;s a reason why these books are considered great, and even genre writers should take the time and put forth the effort to figure out *why* they&#039;re great. Even Stephen King reads Ian McEwan and Cormac McCarthy, in addition to genre fiction.</p>
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		<title>By: Primer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Primer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 02:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for the information.  
This puts many of his other works into a better context. &quot;The Silmirillion&quot; is one you should read. Be warned though it is not an easy read. It delves far deeper into Tolkien&#039;s world than the LOTR or The Hobbit. I think you will be very suprised by it........ </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for the information.<br />
This puts many of his other works into a better context. &quot;The Silmirillion&quot; is one you should read. Be warned though it is not an easy read. It delves far deeper into Tolkien&#039;s world than the LOTR or The Hobbit. I think you will be very suprised by it&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Mike_Kriskey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike_Kriskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 01:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Satan is surely the most interesting character in Paradise Lost, but that doesn&#039;t mean he&#039;s a mixture of good and evil.  He&#039;s evil.  Iago is evil.  Claudius is evil.  Macbeth and his wife are evil. 
 
Or maybe I should say, all those characters function within the story as &quot;the bad guy.&quot; 
 
I think you&#039;re mistaking &quot;realistic&quot; for &quot;morally ambiguous.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satan is surely the most interesting character in Paradise Lost, but that doesn&#39;t mean he&#39;s a mixture of good and evil.  He&#39;s evil.  Iago is evil.  Claudius is evil.  Macbeth and his wife are evil. </p>
<p>Or maybe I should say, all those characters function within the story as &quot;the bad guy.&quot; </p>
<p>I think you&#39;re mistaking &quot;realistic&quot; for &quot;morally ambiguous.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike_Kriskey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike_Kriskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 01:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was speaking specifically about &lt;i&gt;The Lord of the Rings,&lt;/i&gt; because that&#039;s the book I&#039;m most familiar with.  
 
Tolkien&#039;s parents both died when he and his younger brother were still children. He was raised by a Roman Catholic priest, and he remained Catholic his whole life---one of his sons became a priest.  
 
Here&#039;s a story that tells you a lot about him. He fell in love with the woman who would become his wife while he was at college. His guardian, the priest, forbade him to see her because she&#039;d interfere with his studies. He wrote her one letter explaining this and dropped all contact. The day he graduated, he went to her and proposed.  
 
Read &quot;The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien&quot; and you get a good view of the man. I was most impressed with his response to the German publisher who wanted him to certify he was not a Jew before they&#039;d publish the translation of &lt;i&gt;The Hobbit.&lt;/i&gt;  The letters he wrote in answer to fans are fascinating for anyone who loved LOTR. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was speaking specifically about <i>The Lord of the Rings,</i> because that&#039;s the book I&#039;m most familiar with.  </p>
<p>Tolkien&#039;s parents both died when he and his younger brother were still children. He was raised by a Roman Catholic priest, and he remained Catholic his whole life&#8212;one of his sons became a priest.  </p>
<p>Here&#039;s a story that tells you a lot about him. He fell in love with the woman who would become his wife while he was at college. His guardian, the priest, forbade him to see her because she&#039;d interfere with his studies. He wrote her one letter explaining this and dropped all contact. The day he graduated, he went to her and proposed.  </p>
<p>Read &quot;The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien&quot; and you get a good view of the man. I was most impressed with his response to the German publisher who wanted him to certify he was not a Jew before they&#039;d publish the translation of <i>The Hobbit.</i>  The letters he wrote in answer to fans are fascinating for anyone who loved LOTR.</p>
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		<title>By: Kendama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kendama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 00:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear ya! Now to get cracking on that novel...I hope I can complete it... </description>
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