A Conservative Journey Through Literary America – Part 5: A Conversation With John Derbyshire
by Matt PattersonJohn Derbyshire, columnist, essayist, critic, raconteur, has an opinion. On everything, it seems. Thankfully, he is not shy about sharing them, and was kind enough to speak with me by phone one afternoon.
In addition to wearing the above listed hats, Derbyshire has also written a strange and wonderful little novel called Seeing Calvin Coolidge in a Dream, a book described in the New York Times as, “a bouncy, Capraesque tale of midlife crisis, romantic confusion and spiritual regeneration.” (The Times review was so favorable that it puts the conceit that conservative authors can’t get a fair shake from the liberal media in a good bit of jeopardy).
I asked Derbyshire about Coolidge, the writing of which he recounts with both fondness and exasperation, with decided emphasis on the former. He claims that writing fiction puts one in a state of “aesthetic bliss” (to paraphrase Nabachov), the prime virtue of which is an expansion of perspective that “…separates you from the everyday world.” He tells me that writing a good novel gives one a pleasure many times that of reading a good novel, which, if true, must be a high state of bliss indeed.
Concerning modern poetry, Derbyshire tells me that “most of it is rubbish,” and leftist rubbish at that. Concerning the New Formalists, he seems somewhat ambivalent. The New Formalists, he says, are “not that formal,” and, in any case, “…art has to change, and some changes are dead ends.”
In prose, Derbyshire sees the prospects for conservative authors as not altogether bleak. Like Michael Blowhard, he points out that while mainstream fiction tends to be tied to the Academy, and therefore liberal, in genre fiction the story is something else entirely.
Bill Buckley, he notes, wrote tons of excellent spy novels, starting in 1976 with Saving the Queen, the beginning of the long running and popular Blackford Oakes series. Tom Clancy, best-selling author of political thrillers like The Hunt for Red October, is a decidedly center-right author who has reportedly given large sums to the Republican Party. Science-fiction superstar Robert Heinlein was a Goldwater libertarian – in fact, Reason magazine said of Heinlein in 2007, “As a literary influence on the emerging libertarian movement, Heinlein was second only to [Ayn] Rand.”
Derbyshire could have added Dean Koontz to his list, the best-selling author of science fiction, horror, and suspense novels who as a young man worked for the Goldwater campaign, and who in 2008 was the subject of a favorable write up in National Review in which he was referred to as a “compassionate conservative.” Or Michael Crichton, the science fiction writer (Jurassic Park) who in recent years outraged the liberal establishment with his frank and devastating critique of global warming orthodoxy in his novel State of Fear and in his address to the National Press Club in 2005 titled “The Case for Skepticism on Global Warming,” the text of which is to be highly recommended and may be found in full at Crichton’s official site. (Mr. Crichton has sadly left us, succumbing to throat cancer in November 2008.)
So genre fiction can be welcoming waters for conservatives. In poetry and drama, however, Derbyshire concedes that conservative authors may have a tougher time, especially in the theater, where “it will always be easier to put on a left wing play.” Nonetheless, he says, “…conservatives can be poets and dramatists…the reign of the Bohemians is over.”
Ultimately, however, Derbyshire is of the opinion that political correctness rules in the big publishing houses, and that editors “enforce it ruthlessly.” The silver lining is that “publishers want to make money,” and fortunately there is no shortage of openly conservative authors, O’Reilly, Coulter, et al, who have shown that there exists in North America a vast purchasing audience for “right wing” ideas and opinions.
Andrew (last name withheld), a New York based literary agent, agrees. He has been in publishing for 16 years, four of them on the editorial side, the balance spent representing authors across the ideological spectrum. Though conceding that “no question biases are there” in publishing, nonetheless Andrew insists that there are plenty of liberal editors who can and do rise above their prejudices and work with conservative authors.
Andrew insists that the success of conservative non-fiction authors proves that the situation of conservatives in publishing is “healthy,” though he concedes that “most novelists lean left.” Why that would be so is a topic that we didn’t have time to get in to, but Andrew, who describes himself as a left-leaning centrist, hopes that “more conservatives gravitate towards” the arts and literature, because there is a need for “thoughtful books from both sides” of the aisle.
During my discussion with Andrew, the subject turns to the fear of many conservative authors that they will be ostracized or blacklisted for their views. As an example, I ask him about the harsh reaction to David Mamet’s recent political conversion. “Oh, yes, that was unfortunate,” he says, though Andrew correctly points out that ostracism is a phenomena that knows no ideology per se.
Tomorrow we will examine Mamet’s fascinating political coming out, and ask what it means for conservatism in the literary world.
[Ed. note: You can read a new chapter of this eight-part series every Saturday and Sunday morning. Previous chapters --Part one, two, three, and four.]
Matt Patterson is a columnist and commentator whose work has appeared in The Washington Examiner, The Baltimore Sun, and Pajamas Media. He is the author of “Union of Hearts: The Abraham Lincoln & Ann Rutledge Story.” His email is mpatterson.column@gmail.com.







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It seems to me impossible to mention the words "conservative" and "popular fiction" and NOT mention Andrew Klavan, who's really poked the publishing establishment's eye with not only great novels, but now a great conservative-themed novel for KIDS. It can indeed be done, and nowadays with really good self-publishing options that (a) have the ability, with smart marketing, to succeed financially because (b) they produce high quality books with very low upfront expense and (c) marketing/sales systems like Amazon are available to self-published authors, too. The bottomline on the publishing "industry" is that it is a dinosaur and the old houses are dying off, so their clout as politically correct gatekeepers is dying, too. The last piec e of the puzzle is good articles like this one to make those of us with conservative values AND a good story sense know about books like Derbyshire's. Thanks for doing that!
To each their own, the "Derb" was the reason I stopped reading The Corner. An unending prattle of negative, occasionally seconded by Stutterford. My loss in the end, McCarthy and a couple others are must reads in this environment. But I'm not going back.
I think it will be very interesting to read seeing Calvin Coolidge in a Dream. Yes there is a huge demand in North America, but that doesn't seem to bother newspapers. As he says, political correctness rules and is rigidly enforced so maybe they let their strong political opinions trump there common sense when it comes to making money. I really look forward to the David Mamet discussion because I think they are already trying hard to marginalize him.
I find Derbyshire to be a delightful read most of the time. He has a Brit twist in most of what he writes, and his wife, whom he calls "The Dragon Lady," seems to add an Asian perspective to that. On the other hand, I agree with Dave. His contrarian views on The Corner seem sometimes as if they are there only because he feels he has to disagree with the others. His style seems more appropriate for stand-alone pieces than for the quick banter of internet posting.
I wonder if the reason there aren't more conservative literary authors is because they spend their time writing for think tanks or writing more directly political works? Look at the number of right-leaning political books compared to the number of left-leaning political books.
That would actually make sense to me because conservatives tend to be more logical and analytical, looking to bring large amounts of proof to their positions. A straight up political book is right up their alley. But liberals, on the other hand, seem to prefer just asserting something to be true (not to mention they have no evidence to support their causes). The more "fakey" world of literature thus makes more sense to them.
Hasn't David Mamet been all but shunned since his conversion?
However, print-on-demand still has a stigma of being what authors who aren't good enough for a traditional publishing house resort to.
The Derb is always a good read though sometimes provocative on religion and race. I still enjoy all his writings but he has moved away from being aligned closely with my own world views and now I feel like I've lost a friend and gained a cranky English uncle.
He used to be safely Anglican/deist, attending his local Episcopal church in the social club sort of way and happily recognizing those with a warmer version of Christian faith as good people. He wrote numerous articles about how religion was inherent in the human condition and a good thing – it appeared to me he had a bit of envy for those who were truly faith filled.
A few years ago his mathematical/scientific side took over completely and now he finds all sorts of threatening things in the evangelical/Creationist spectrum that I think he might better ignore. He does write very interesting arguments based on scientific research and theory of which I have little knowledge so they make me think even if I disagree with him.
I'm sympathetic to what you're saying. Derb has become quite tiresome, from his endless whining about Iraq to his slobbering over Ron Paul. I used to enjoy his weekly podcast but nowadays it's more likely to make my eyes roll.
I can understand some being turned off by Derb – heck, the guy was banished from The Corner for a while – but he cracks me up even when he irritates me… which is fairly often. In any event, he's my favorite atheist for sure, and he has a habit of hitting nails squarely on the head regularly. Problem is, he often uses a sledge hammer when a simple claw hammer would do.
Tom Clancy could not get one publisher ot even look at 'Hunt for Red October'- the Naval Institue Press, who do scholarly tomes for the Naval Academy took a flier on it…
He put THEM on the map.
I'd rather hear from someone else than Mr. Derbyshire. Perhaps thats why the NYT liked him.
I wouldn't let any one NRO writer keep you from the Corner: you're missing a lot of good stuff there, and the fact is, Derb doesn't comment much anymore.
I'm not a whole-hearted fan of John Derbyshire, either. He's definitely capable of good writing, but he's also capable of a petulant and frankly irrational bigotry against Christianity, a hatred that almost certainly precludes him from being a political conservative. (WFB in a 1970 essay on conservatism: "Can you be a conservative and despise God and feel contempt for those who believe in Him? I would say no.")
What he writes about the art and literature he likes, can be quite moving, even if I don't agree with him about Nabakov and wish that Bob Dylan was more of a songwriter than a singer-songwriter. When he writes about the Christian writings of C.S. Lewis, he positively foams at the mouth. I sometimes find his writing to be quite witty — especially the one line, "The ducks are trying to kill you." — but more often than not, I read NRO despite Derb, not because of him.
There are plenty of great conservative writers outside of think tanks. After Ann Coulter wrote her first book (a NYT-bestseller) one major publisher spiked her second.
Lucky for Ann: she found another publisher. It became a Number 1 NYT-bestseller.
The left-wing publishing industry has a history of spiking right-wing books, of course, because they are anti-free speech. I wonder how many other books have been spiked.
Good point. Right or left, he is a great writer, period. But since he openly switched sides, the left couldn’t hack it.
i too find the Derb a bit too contrarian for the sake of being contrarian sometimes. however, i think you're mistaking his anti-catholicism for anti-christianity. i get the impression that the Derb is fond of the trapping and ceremonies of the Anglican church, and as such, feels them important culturally. it's only when discussing notable catholics, catholicism, or Irish catholics seeking a unified Ireland that his bigotry shows. another problem with the Derb is that he can be quite close-minded about some subjects, such as intelligent design. i think he has his mind set on what the definition of intelligent design "is", has decided that it's wrong, and now refuses to hear or respect any of its supporters. i'm not personally too knowledgeable about the arguments in favor of intelligent design, but its advocates deserve the right to be heard.
Gun Owner, John Derbyshire is a man who not only thinks that the serious theological disagreements among various religions somehow disproves all theological claims as relativistic, he discusses these disagreements by invoking the phrase, "invisible Sky Father."
Derb isn't just anti-Catholic, he's anti-Christian, and over the last couple years he has made his bigotry pretty hard to deny.
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After my writing took a conservative turn, taking the piss out of liberal academia, my agent dropped me after 23 publishers turned down my novel, The Kingdom of Absurdities. I published it on Amazon's Create Space; has sold okay, so definitely an option for conservative novelists.
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Late to the discussion, but Andrew Klavan's books would be an example of "genre" fiction. Thrillers, mysteries, science fiction and fantasy (I'll leave aside romance) are all genre fiction, and a much friendlier home to conservatives.
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