Time for the Amero?
by Michael McGrutherThe post-George W. Bush world is a geopolitical power vacuum where, for a short period of time, America has a Macy’s perfume model as President going around with sweet little spritzes of kindness in hopes of closing the deal towards eternal world peace and prosperity. It’s not going to work. And this kind of diplomacy stinks because savvy world leaders know it’s entirely disingenuous. Change you can deceive in is all that’s going on here.
Let’s talk about real change, dramatic, game-changing change on a level no one understands, including me: The establishment of a North American Union, a super-nation comprised of Canada, the U.S.A. and Mexico all acting with one international interest and one unified currency: The Amero.
For as long as I can remember the dollar’s either been in trouble or strong. While I was bartending at one of New York’s most famous Italian restaurants during the 90’s, I could tell whose money was strong at the moment based on my customers. It’s as if everyone in Japan would visit at the same time, spending freely and having a blast. Then they would disappear and the English would suddenly be in town.
This trend always reverses, as well. There was a time in the mid-90’s where England was so cheap to visit Bengali bus boys would go there for weekend shopping visits. My wife and I visited Japan in the late 90’s and enjoyed a huge money advantage. I also went to Amsterdam before they stopped using gilders — and then came the Euro, followed by Saddam Hussein’s switch from accepting Dollars to Euros for oil. After that, 9-11. Nothing’s been the same since.
The events that led up to 9-11 are much more about geopolitical battle lines than radical Islam vs. the civilized world. Islamic terrorists are without a doubt the tool of a far-reaching, clandestine war being waged on American interests around the globe, and Iraq truly was the real-world version of Mos Eisley where villains would collect and plot. President Bush’s publicly stated reasons for the invasion were legitimate, but I suspect there was another heavy factor for our going to war with Iraq (and a President Obama would have done the exact same thing): the switch from Dollars to Euros, which shook an already delicate international money system to its core. Today we have the worldwide economic crisis that is in many ways a direct result of Saddam’s economic terrorism, and now there’s even calls from China and Russia for a one-world currency to replace the dollar. Islamic terrorism, economic terrorism and oil terrorism all have the same chilling effect: the whittling down of American power influence around the globe by way of the currency.
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Is one-world currency likely? Probably not in the foreseeable future. But the emergence of an Amero, or North American Union currency, seems entirely plausible to me. What else can beat back the Euro in value and become the new global standard other than a gold-standard backed Amero? And when you compare China’s land, resources and population to ours, the odds are clearly in China’s favor. But when you include all of North America, the difference becomes nominal and more about who has better ideas about freedom and liberty for its citizens.
What does this mean for American jobs and illegal immigration? I don’t have those answers. But I’m curious as to what my fellow conservatives think about the whole concept of the North American Union and the Amero and how it could impact global markets. Could we all use one currency in North America and have more open borders yet retain our individual, national identities? I hope so. I never imagined that the future may in fact produce a North America that uses one currency, a European Union that uses one currency and most likely an Russian/Asian union of some sort that uses one currency.
America, as the centerpiece of the North American Union with the Amero could be a golden doorway to another American-led century, but only if conservatives are the architects of the final outcome and protect the individual identity of each nation.
This is change you can believe in because it just may be inevitable.
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I just don't see what Mexico brings to the table. I don't think N.A.F.T.A. really did all that much; certainly not what I had hoped for. Also, I agree with Jake, common currency could lead to blurring national identity. Again, good for Mexico, but not that good for us. That said, I admit I'm firing off the cuff here without having put a lot of thought into it. I do applaud your strategic thinking. In corporate America, we always were asking "what if" questions.
A currency is only as strong as the cohesiveness of the underlying social fabric that controls and operates it. For you to suggest that the "Amero" could in any way challenge the Euro or, for that matter, the Yuan (in the next 5 years) is laughable, given the "gimme, gimme" sociological roots of the cultures of all three countries now (USA, Canada and Mexico). Now that we have become the "looters" that Ayn Rand predicted we would, there are no quick fixes. You either rectify the society and its ethics (which you will not do), or you go down with the ship.
Loose borders. I don't like it.
You either rectify the society and its ethics (which you will not do)
Let me fix that for you: "(which will never be done)".
As I've said before, things are too far out of control. All our talk about politics, in the end, amounts to rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Well absolutely Jake. I wouldn't do it because of blurring of national identity. Your point is particularly valid though about Mexico. It could theoretically benefit them and the other Central America countries the most economically, I think, but yes you are right, they deserve their own identity as well as just ourselves.
Quite frankly, the whole proposition is about increasing economic leverage in the world which is why the Europeans finally did it but I think it is already having some of that negative effect you mention. Like you, I reject it for the same reasons you subscribe to. You will ultimately lose your national identity. Still, it is always a good mental exercise to ask these kind of questions.
Produce a North American counterpart to the EU? If you were European would you have voted to join the EU?
Did you ever think that many of the European countries, particularly Iceland and the other Banking countries, have been completely crippled by this crises, while we remain marginally on top?
Do you think the EU is a good idea just because they might have a stronger currency? How about when they get almost entirely replaced by Muslim law? Will you still think it's a good idea to copy it then?
Our Economy is bad, but it is the Culture which is really in danger. A Economic solution will not help us push back decline until we can change the culture.
Wow, I came to BH after several Scotch-sodas looking for some random entertainment news, and I stumbled down the rabbit hole of monetary policy. Ok – I'll take the red pill.
The Dollar is weak(er) for a number of reasons, but two of the most important are deficit spending and our unusually prohibitive domestic energy policy. I am, admittedly, one of those nuts who rues the day we left the gold standard. I'm also one of those nuts that would erect oil wells in my backyard if I thought they would turn a profit – ergo, consider the source.
At root, what backs up the Dollar is trust – the more the rest of the world trusts that America is a stable nation not steered by unstable psychopaths and a string of tinpot militaristic dictators, the longer the Dollar will remain the currency of choice. Russia and China and the EU can moan and whine about the Dollar's status, but Americans (and Canadians) can see how member states are treated on a number of contentious issues with little room to wiggle due to their odd experiment in international currency.
If Russia/China/Iran/UAE etc wish to lock their fates together and create a new currency, I say more power to them – trillions of dollars in American debt will be erased by the combined corruption of two forces: communism and oligarchy. The Chinese and Russians are not stupid, but they are quite aware of economic buffoon currently speaking for this country (Putin – "Can you believe that he actually *believes* those things he's saying???"). The only legitimate international currency that could compete with the power of the Dollar would be a fusion of Chinese and American currencies. There is a precedent for this, though. When the Japanese began cleaning Detroit's clock while flooding the country with Walkmans and Seikos, there was serious talk about fusing the Dollar with the Yen, producing – you guess it – the Dolen. That trend passed.
As to the writer's question of what we think about a North American currency? Consider the manipulation of the Dollar under our own noses, by our own countrymen, within our own shores. It's a helpless feeling, yes, knowing that other Americans are printing money so fast that it's devaluing our currency and sending out debt to the moon that we apparently have no interest in visiting any more? Now, consider that same feeling, only instead these decisions are being made by a trilateral commission of the same type of unelected political cronies, the type of self-styled economic geniuses that have been doing such a swell job with American monetary policy the last few years.
Yeah, of all the bad ideas I'm aware of floating out there, this one ranks somewhere between forced abortion and indoor compost toilets as among the worst. And please remind me – what does this have to do with BH, and although thought-provoking, why is a Hollywood mover/shaker type discussing monetary policy here? Dude – give us some Lohan gossip, or at least a theory as to why Jennifer Connelly keeps taking the same role.
I agree with many of the comments here. This discussion would not exist, if the dollar had not been weakened by years of abuse by the Fed, congress and executives, encouraging bad debt to satisfy it's socio-political agendas. This would be adding two more nations; one burdened with horrendous corruption, drug wars and gangster infrastructure and another going bankrupt under its own socialist economy. I see more of the same behavior here. A single currency, with no single nation to blame for its troubles. It is more divergence of poor debt, by obscuring the source of the problems. It's a political solution. The dollar was a world currency standard, as long as the United States guaranteed it's value, with genuine wealth creation. Now it is becoming a national shell game.
Bigger is not better. Decentralization of power and opportunity is the answer–not the opposite.
I'll not edit it, but apologies for the way-too-long post above. Monetary policy's just too much fun.
As long as it remains a mental exercise I don't object. It's when it becomes a physical exercise that I begin to get worried… and I'm somewhat worried already that the more we think about it, the closer we get to making it a reality. Talk of the devil, and he doth appear.
OK, The North American Union is nutty, conspiracy theorist stuff.
In my head, I was composing my letter to the management when I saw that the author was actually thoughtfully pondering what such a thing might be like without in the least screaming "They're out to get us!" or even saying that so-and-so has a secret plan to inflict it upon us.
I'll give the author the benefit of the doubt and assume he was just throwing a theoretical out there for the sake of throwing a theoretical out there.
As other commenters have pointed out, America has nothing to gain from a shared currency, and many would argue that Europe has lost quite a bit in its effort to form the EU, of which shared currency is one component.
America should remain America, and she will, because the NAU ain't happening. No one wants it, and I don't think anyone's seriously proposed it.
Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I don't believe I am.
The North American Union is nutty, conspiracy theorist stuff.
In my head, I was composing my letter to the management when I saw that the author was actually thoughtfully pondering what such a thing might be like without in the least screaming "They're out to get us!" or even saying that so-and-so has a secret plan to inflict it upon us.
I'll give the author the benefit of the doubt and assume he was just throwing a theoretical out there for the sake of throwing a theoretical out there.
As other commenters have pointed out, America has nothing to gain from a shared currency, and many would argue that Europe has lost quite a bit in its effort to form the EU, of which shared currency is one component.
America should remain America, and she will, because the NAU ain't happening. No one wants it, and I don't think anyone's seriously proposed it.
Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I don't believe I am.
The North American Union is nutty, conspiracy theorist stuff.
In my head, I was composing my letter to the management when I saw that the author was actually thoughtfully pondering what such a thing might be like without in the least screaming "They're out to get us!" or even saying that so-and-so has a secret plan to inflict it upon us.
I'll give the author the benefit of the doubt and assume he was just throwing a theoretical out there for the sake of throwing a theoretical out there.
As other commenters have pointed out, America has nothing to gain from a shared currency, and many would argue that Europe has lost quite a bit in its effort to form the EU, of which shared currency is one component.
America should remain America, and she will, because the NAU ain't happening. No one wants it, and I don't think anyone's seriously proposed it.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe I am.
The North American Union is nutty conspiracy theorist stuff.
I was mentally composing my letter to the management when I saw that the author was actually thoughtfully pondering what such a thing might be like without in the least screaming "They're out to get us!" or even saying that so-and-so has a secret plan to inflict it upon us.
I'll give the author the benefit of the doubt and assume he was just throwing a theoretical out there for the sake of throwing a theoretical out there.
As other commenters have pointed out, America has nothing to gain from a shared currency, and many would argue that Europe has lost quite a bit in its effort to form the EU, of which shared currency is one component.
America should remain America, and she will, because the NAU ain't happening. No one wants it, and I don't think anyone's seriously proposed it.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe I am.
Is the establishment of a North American Union, along with an accompanying unified currency, the answer? The creation of such a union may seem entirely plausible—even inevitable—to Mr. McGruther, but I don’t see it. On the contrary, I would say that the odds of a North American Union ever coming to pass are vanishingly small—something very closely approximating zero, I believe. In fact, I have to say that, up until this point, I’ve not been aware of the concept of a North American Union being discussed seriously anywhere except among whacked-out conspiracy theorists who are unalterably opposed to the idea. And so, for the reason alone, the question Mr. McGruther poses is purely academic.
I just want to know how you could write that long without getting the "Your post is too long" error….
I have no idea – yesterday I posted a 20-word "good job" to The Dark Knight piece and it was banned. I guess the BH gods realize that you have to take away what is granted, and give what is thought verbotten.
I thought the greatest trick the Devil pulled was convincing the world he doesn't exist. Are those view mutually compatible, or do we need to get Charlie Daniels in here to moderate?
Well, the devil's in the details, after all. You won't see him if you're not looking close enough.
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My husband works for a German company and as such, he deals daily with the EU on a logistical level. They are a bureaucratic nightmare and a break up waiting to happen. For one thing, you have the social demoncracies of theWest in direct conflict with the newer, capitalistic and vigorous Eastern states who see nothing to profit rom becoming welfare nanny states having just recently escaped such a nightmare, and yet, they face pressure from their Western neighbor states to conform. Then you have the growing Muslim threat of a rapidly growing, entirely subsidized and nonintegrated underclass that is increasingly radicalized and young set against a dwindling and aging population of Western Civilization Europeans … things are set to get very ugly in the old EU despite what look to be a strongish exterior. And the US can't continue to be their sugardaddy anymore. We have our own mess to clean up that's being rapidly exacerbated by Obama and his cohorts on the hill. They'll have to take care of themselves soon enough. You think California looks bad.
Trust me, the EU is rotting from the inside out.
Everyday, Obama makes Bush look better. I wasn't on board with Bush's socialist moves. At least that was a slow track of socialism lite. Not anymore.
The reason the EURO is having so many issues stem from having a unifying currency but a byzantine system of regulations (how many hundreds of pages is the EU constitution to date?). The EURO only slightly covers up how non-accountable bureaucracies are taking large portions of Europe's economy out of the hands of individuals. The AMERO would ONLY be successful if a common currency were matched with a already proven form of government with its rule of law covering the lands where it is officially used. We could perhaps call this currency the "dollar" and this new nation state a "United States" or even the "United States of America" since it would cover a large portion of the Americas. As a matter of fact I think there's a flag I've seen that with a modification or two could fit a few more stars on it. There was once a military commander who thought about having the lands of Canada and Mexico included into this one nation…something Washington or other.
Isn't any talk of physical international currency just spinning the wheels at this point? Within most of our lifetimes the overwhelming majority of ALL transactions – especially big ones, will be electronic with little regard given to where products or money came from on their ways past one another.
We're already halfway there: American companies selling goods produced in Europe, assembled in India, transported by Chinese ships, paid for in Euros by a French re-distributor based in Korea… that sort of thing. Sooner or later, the multinational corporations – many of them already bigger and more influential than most individual countries on the world stage – are going to decide that it's no longer convenient for them to have
Please forgive my conspiracy theory, but I think that when the monetary system goes into chaos (because, for instance, more and more money passes under the table due to high taxes and cap and trade, etc.), we will switch to a cashless system in which all transactions can be controlled. Even though I haven't called myself an evangelical in a long time, this is one prophecy of my church upbringing that has returned to haunt my mind lately. Really, it isn't too far fetched. We have the infrastructure in place already, via debit and credit cards, online billpay, direct deposit, etc. All we have to do is do away with cash, and there you go.
It was a good post! I can lay claim to some good staple Geopolitical knowledge, but we have you for all our economics information.
Hell, I want Clinton back! At least he could maintain a surplus.
I'd take Biden over Obama if it came right down to it.
Well put!
In America, we use ATMs and debit card swipes because they are reliably convenient systems of exchange, but they are reliable and convenient only because we trust them. Cash, like gold before it, supports our systems of exchange. The cashless system you refer to is called, at times, the black market, or more primitively, barter.
Americans, myself among them, and other inhabitants of nations not in the worst parts of the third world do not have to endure the dystopian ideal of a cashless society, thankfully. There isn't a program in existence that could calculate the number of man hours saved by the existence of 'dirty, flithy money.' Although I'm not sure what you mean by a cashless system in which all transactions can be controlled, I'm confident in this: show me a society where people cannot possess money which has value, and I will show you a society that is quite the little hell on Earth.
No way Jose!
It's not ideal, but our money has value. Like you, though, when people speak of the Founders, I think that train went off the tracks when we ditched the gold standard.
"Could we all use one currency in North America and have more open borders yet retain our individual, national identities?"
How could the border be more open than it is and still have a sovereign nation?
How could you peg our currency to gold there is not enough gold in the world to do this with the amount of paper we have printed. Gold would have to be priced at over $50,000 an ounce(just a guess it may have to be much higher)
Well, would it really be all that good for Mexico? Their culture may seem trashy, but at least they still have one. Combining with Mexico, Canada and a few Latin American states — I can't help but feel that the whole would be somehow less than the sum of its parts.
Say what you will, North Americans don't lack for patriotism. Canadians, Americans, Mexicans, even Guatemalans and (as we've recently seen) Hondurans — the people here who love their countries REALLY love their countries. Why grab hold of such a strong cultural foundation and rip it out from under them? Is it really worth doing for the sake of "fairness" or "equality"?
It would seem to me that the NAU would delegitimize patriotism to a large extent, by turning every appearance of it into a manifestation of chauvinism. "You love your country? How old and busted is that? C'mon, man, it's a new era of cooperation. Get with the program, for cryssakes!"
The concept of a North American Union or a multinational currency is, I think, inherently Leftist.
I agree with Jed, what does Mexico or even Canada bring to the table? We sell in Mexico, several Millions each year and I spend a large amount of time there. They still want our Dollars, most of my retail transactions are no where near the tourist areas and yet I learned not to trade dollars for pesos at the exchanges. The merchants all wanted my dollars and after learning the language, I was able to barter better prices with dollars than pesos, so I just don't see it as a benefit. I am open to other ideas, I just have not found any.
Produce a North American counterpart to the EU? If you were European would you have voted to join the EU?
Did you ever think that many of the European countries, particularly Iceland and the other Banking countries, have been completely crippled by this crises, while we remain marginally on top?
Do you think the EU is a good idea just because they might have a stronger currency? How about when they get almost entirely replaced by Muslim Immigrants? Will you still think it's a good idea to copy it then?
Our Economy is bad, but it is the Culture which is really in danger. A Economic solution will not help us push back decline until we can change the culture.
Also, I love that note in your article about a sort of Global Conspiracy to destroy us, starting with Saddam Hussein. Give me an f"ing break we have Democrats for that type of Bullshit. If there is any conspiracy to destroy us economically it is from within starting with Obama, Reid, and Pelosi…
The North American Union is an economic theory rooted in the 1950s Liberal University Education. This happens when "management" loses its vision and leadership about profitability. Management sees the increased costs of its workers and needs to find a way to spread this cost over more workers to reduce the burden. Who would have ever thought about this (except for a "pointy-headed liberal from Washington, D.C."), when America was a Superpower under Ronald Reagan? However, we've slipped considerably, especially in the leadership area. While we are still the Shining City on the Hill, we are becoming a socialized state. A few things still need to happen to get US (pun intended) there. These are (1) Increased Centralized Control Over The Economy, (2) Limited Individual Rights, (3) Socialized Medicine, and (4) The Complete Loss Of Economic Power.
We would need to be desperate (for a merger) to a level that would make us desperate to want to give up our sovereignty to both Mexico and Canada (What about Honduras, Costa Rica, Belize, Nicuragua, and Panama or do we really want to fall that far?). How much more must we fall to get to that desperate level?
You want to know the easiest and quickest way for a B list celebrity to get five minutes of free TV time to promote their latest venture? Just mention that you hate Obama, whine about the state of the company….you'll be booked on Fox & Friends, Glenn Beck within a matter of days AND you'll get a guest column on Big Hollywood.
Such a whiny bunch on this site – I've seen it happen lately with Craig T. Nelson, Victoria Jackons, and Daniel Baldwin….don't think that some agents aren't actually encouraging this, at this point. "Yeah, just bash Obama, it'll go on YouTube, and you'll get some good exposure in front of a 2 million senior citizens….they go to the movies, too."
Where were all of you five years ago when W started a prescription drug program with a $7 trillion deficit behind it? Oh, right, you were in power and just didn't care about it. Funny how losing elections makes people care all of a sudden….
The North American Union is nutty conspiracy theorist stuff.
I was mentally composing my letter to the management when I saw that the author was actually thoughtfully pondering what such a thing might be like without in the least screaming "They're out to get us!" or even saying that so-and-so has a secret plan to inflict it upon us.
I'll give the author the benefit of the doubt and assume he was just throwing a theoretical out there for the sake of throwing a theoretical out there.
As other commenters have pointed out, America has nothing to gain from a shared currency, and many would argue that Europe has lost quite a bit in its effort to form the EU, of which shared currency is one component.
America should remain America, and she will, because the NAU ain't happening. No one wants it, and I don't think anyone's seriously proposed it.
Is the establishment of a North American Union, along with an accompanying unified currency, the answer? The creation of such a body may seem entirely plausible—even inevitable—to Mr. McGruther, but I don’t see it. On the contrary, I would say that the odds of a North American Union ever coming to pass are vanishingly small—something very closely approximating zero, I believe. In fact, I have to say that, up until this point, I’ve not been aware of the concept of a North American Union being discussed seriously anywhere except among whacked-out conspiracy theorists who are rabbidly opposed to the idea. And so, for that reason alone, the question Mr. McGruther poses is purely academic.
Prediction:
2009, summer. Health care FAILS miserably in the house, 235ish-200ish. ZERO republicans vote in favor, most all blue dogs (and some ‘first term’ dems in fear of reelection) vote against. Obama weakened, popularity average low 50s, accurate polls have in in the 45-49 range.
2009, fall. Cap & Trade fails in Senate. defeated by a wide margin, nearly 70-30. Obama dips to average of high 40s approval after more liberal ramming attempts
2010, winter-spring. Unemployment rises, recession continues Unemployment hits 12-13% nationally, with over 25% in hard hit states like Michigan. Obama personally attacks April 15 tea party protestors, calling them “unpatriotic”. Approval rating in low 40s.
2010, summer-fall. Recession starts to ease, but unemployment still high. Supposed ’stimulating’ jobs are really short-term things like sodding the national mall, that have an end date, and unemployment nationally still in the 13% range.
2010, november. Republicans clean up in Congressional elections, but still in minority. GOP does well but had a big hill to climb after losing 65 reps in 2 election cycles. Close the gap in the house to something like 225-210, close senate gap to 54-46. Obama low 40% approval.
2011. Bad economy, anger at DC. Stimlus supposed to take effect the most in this year, but, “amazingly”, deficit spending doesn’t save the economy. Employers saddled with higher corporate income taxes won’t hire as many employees. Whoda thunk it. Conservative coalition of blue dogs + reps keeps any obama legislation from passing. Anger at dems in charge + Obama. Approval dips into 30s in Rasmussen for first time.
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2012. Judgement Year. With double-digit unemployment continuing, a “do nothing” democratic congress (a label given by the president to his own party), and wasteful government spending by the trillions, approval of Obama fluxes between high 30s and 45%. Trying the Dick-Morris-esque strategy for Clinton of “moving to the center”, Obama calls for “real budget reform”. His calls are laughed off by teaparty protestors, who have a march on washington that brings 500,000 on tax day (a sunday, as most protestors have work weeks to worry about).
When unemployment hits 15% in january,
Hillary “reluctantly” throws her name in the race, and wins a few primaries in February before again losing to Obama in the end. This dem primary contest reenergizes dem voters, but strangely, the black support for Obama has fallen below an unthinkable 80%. The slogan “2008 was for history, 2012 is for my job” is muttered among American blacks (who, as is sadly typical in recessions, are hurt by unemployment much worse than whites, so a 15% national unemployment rate would equal about 19-21% unemployment for black Americans).
On the GOP side, Mitt Romney buys Iowa and campaigns with a flashy promise of ‘financial frguality & fiscal forbearance’. it doesn’t ignite the base, but it sells for a bit. The real story is the resurrection of sarah palin from punch line to powerhouse. after a tough primary that saw Palin beat the divided RINOs of romney & michael bloomberg, Palin names new Florida Senator Marco Rubio to the ticket as VP.
In the October debates, Palin delivers a knockout blow when, after Obama looks at her and said “you quit on Alaska”, Palin winks and says “maybe so Mr. President, but you quit fixing our economy 4 years ago”. The normally quiet debate crowd at the University of Virginia erupts into cheers. For obama, it’s all about damage control in his upcoming loss.
Obama dumps Biden as VP (citing “health reasons”) on October 15 to shake things up, and names Hillary as his new VP. but hillary, ready to stick the knife in the back of Obama again, declines to show up at the introduction presser with Obama, and holds her own press conference 30 minutes later saying that “I know this is awkward, but I never told Mr Obama I’d do this…. I’m not Obama’s mate”. Screwed and perplexed, Obama abortively names Kathleen Sebelius as his “real” VP nominee, and resumes campaigning — with Biden as current VP, Sebelius as a “possible future” VP, and Hillary cackling anonymously sending Palin donations from fake internet names “Good Will” and “Tony Romo”.
Election day comes and Obama, approval now mired in the 30% range after “Vice-gate”, loses in a 1920s/1930s style electoral blowout — 532 EVs for Palin-Rubio, 6EVs for Obama-Sebelius (DC & Vermont). Final popular tally: Palin-Rubio 62%, Obama-Sebelius, 38%. Just bigger than LBJ-Goldwater, or Coolidge, or FDR, it’s the biggest knockout punch in American politics. The coattail effect is massive, finally returning the house and senate to the GOP. A huge flip comes up, and when the dust settles, the GOP inexplicably has 300+ reps (many in places like Mass or MD will lose in 2014, but hey, it’s a start). The domination isn’t as big as FDR in the new deal (333 “D” reps), it’s more in line with the GOP in the anti-League of Nations era (300 “R” reps in 1920). The Senate flips to “R”, as the weak dems elected in 2006 fall to reelection: tester, mckaskill, whitehouse, casey, klobuchar, etc… GOP gets 59 senators total, most in 100 years.
Palin-Rubio have two years to cut down the federal govt. Palin proves to be something a libertarian when it comes to DC; she cuts taxes, merges several cabinet departments, privatizes a lot, and gets a balanced budget through congress…………. Obama, at home in Chicago, writes another book called “Nightmares from my furious used-to-be-a-First Lady”, followed by his memoirs “George W. Bush, or how I learned to stop worrying and love 19% unemployment”
The end?
battleoflepanto1571 on July 19, 2009 at 3:22 AM
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You are what is wrong with this country
Open your eyes and see for yourself how dangerous Hussein Obama is.
He is circumventing the Constitution with his power plays ,32 Czars and counting with no oversight.
Government control of banks and Insurance and Auto companies.
Now he wants to control your health as another Czar sees fit,no choice.(except for unions and government employees)
And this in just 6 months
Every American should be scared to death of this man
We need to put the brakes on his socialist agenda NOW!
I know this has nothing to do with the topic at hand…but just you mentioning Bush reminded me of how much I miss him. I didn't agree with everything he did and I'm not a "blind follower" but looking forward to another 3.5 years with Obama makes me miss Bush all the more.
Think Right,
Great points. Its funny to hear the left describing us as whiners. They have the presidency, the senate, the congress and they are appointing SCOTUS. Yet they troll around and complain that we are not on board with their unholy garbage. Now, I SAY "Who's whining?"
Nice post, CBK.
Keep drinking those scotch and sodas and you may solve for cold fusion.
Ditto.
It's interesting that Obama has "out-Bushed" Bush in terms of deficit spending, and ramped up the war in Afganistan, and nobody seems to care. The Dems pretended they hated Bush for both of those things.
manero-
Where were YOU "five years ago"? No authentic conservative was on board with Bush's deficit spending and government growth programs.
You were just not paying attention to our dialogue.
2012:
Salma Hayek agrees to leave her husband and move in with me.
Nice dreams, "Think Right". Here's hoping…
I'm reminded of that Old Diddy… First your Money then your Clothes then your A$$ then your Nose. We're at the Money part Boys and Girls …..The Amero you can Keep It.
I feel that the "amero" would certainly be a unifying currency *IF* inflation and debt was down. But fortunately it is not. So I don't think the "amero" is going to be common currency for QUITE awhile. Mexico's inflation is quite high. One of the deciding factors over in the european countries wishing to join the European union, is having a very low inflation rate as well as national debt. The "Amero" I think will remain a fantasy in the conspiracy theorist for many years yet.
show me a society where people cannot possess money which has value
Us, after we went off the gold standard?
I know it's primitive, but I like the idea of having something solid behind my money, somewhere.
Not to mention how the left kept wanting to make a big deal out of Haliburton but are silent on the fact that Goldman Sachs is in charge of the government's financial dealings using tax payer money to rid themselves of their competition and bailout those that owe them money. Biggest profit last quarter during the worst recession since the Great Depression? Seems like this was illegal at one time. Mr. Geithner removed any conflict of interest issues.
Actually, Clinton may have had a "surplus" (not sure how that is possible when there is no money in SS) but had a shrinking economy his last two quarters. Handing Bush a recession and a dot com bubble waiting to burst. Clinton got out before it hit the fan.
I'll settle for the Health Care prediction coming true, but I'm living in fear that they'll jam it through anyhow and we'll be "bucked" up but good. Even Cap and Tax can be quickly and neatly repealed before it can do irreversible damage.
Bad idea. Next??
I don't think you realize how absolutely screwed up Mexico is. Why would so many need to leave?
First to get lost would be the 2nd Amendment, if the words remain they will have little value. Both Canada and Mexico have strong gun restrictions, even bans. As seen with the EU, the super-union trumps individual nations, what the majority wants will dominate no matter what citizens of the separate bodies want. The 2nd Amendment, as by the Sotomayor definition (for a liberal reference point), keeps our federal government from imposing "undue" restrictions on ownership and use, which has now been given a solid footing by the Supreme Court, with the current battleground being if it affects the states, which proper thinking Americans recognize as true since other Amendments, like the 1st, apply to the States.
Well, the 2nd Amendment may keep the federal government away, but when the relationship between the super-union and the US is as that between the federal government and the states, gun control from the top down is easy. The gun banners can cheerfully point out that the federal government is doing nothing against the 2nd Amendment, it is all the doing of the super-union, whose directives we have agreed to comply with.
Once that precedent is established, and I fully expect it will be one of the first actions after joining if not right in the joining document(s), how many other rights will be modified or removed from the top down?
I thought this was a place for conservatives, not CFR propagandists. We should all keep a close eye on this "Michael McGruther"
It's not a conspiracy post. It's an academic question about possibilities and is worthy of asking and investigating by conservatives. If you read the brilliant comments on the article you will see that the majority of readers recognized that and since the end of the blog clearly asked "I wonder how my fellow conservatives feel about the Amero, etc" they have posted highly intelligent points that I would have never heard anywhere else.
I hope to read your solid arguments against it as well.
No need for this at all. If you've ever been South of the Border, you would know that you get a discount when you pay with US currency. The people throughout latin america prefer it.
We do not require a gold backed currency.
For as long as I can remember, all they gold in Fort Knox has been owed to our debt. In other words, we don't have any.
This is because Roosevelt who confiscated everybody's personal gold. They then set a standard of about $35 an oz and allowed everybody else in the world to buy it but Americans – until Nixon.
You can't solve any of this without first figuring out who really owns the Fed. Case closed.
Yes, and no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.
Seriously, we DID object five years ago, but damn it we should have objected LOUDER.
B_A_D I_D_E_A If you think the American political corps are distant, unresponsive, and self serving, wait until we're part of an internationist group. There's no room for American exceptionalism in the tower of babel. ALL MUST BE EQUAL is the mantra in those kind of places. Do you see anything in the EU to be envious of? The reason we're in this mess to start with is the constant push AWAY from our core founding principles. You don't need X amount of land or Y amount of population to be a strong country. You need united allegiance to strong ethical values, and a monetary policy that accurately reflects an economy based on efficient use of resources for the production of actual goods. Instead, we have an international cartel lacking any patriotic nationalism, who sacrifices real production to make money from manipulation of interest rates and inflation, and buying off the population with socialized everything instead of real solutions. Just wait to see how much "money" we'll be "making" from all our CO2 cap and trades. More fiat paper chasing make believe assets.
A word to the anti-conspiracy main stream types. Yes, I know there are plenty of tin foil hat types out there, but that doesn't mean there aren't things to be concerned about. The CFR, yes the ones who are the whos who of American politics, members like Hillary, Cheney, etc. When a group like that publishes policy documents "exploring" the idea of the NAU, you need to be concerned.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/203446/2005-05-CFR-NAFT...
Yes, its just a what if, yes its just a contingency. The problem with that is that if such and such chain of events occur, someone is liable to reach into their desk and pull out their "contingency" folder. There are far too many people, even in this country, who want to see the US as another washed up has been. Our own president has even gone on an apology tour. Remember Rahm's motto-"never waste a crisis"
Hardly a perfume pusher. More like an in your face arrogant a hole….He has told U.S. to turn down the heat, sacrifice grandma and grandpa, no one is allowed to succeed, muslims invented everything and they are the best religion evah, U.S. should not defend itself, nor should it maintain a middle class…elitists and slaves is the order of the day, he has yet to tell the truth about anything, and he definitely smells funny, if he were pushing perfume, it would be eau de snark.
Actually most conservative media trashed the idea of the prescription plan for months. Weren't you listening back then? Maybe you missed Limbaughs years of calling McCain a sellout. Or the amnesty for illegals. Yes, conservatives have been complaining about the GOP abandoning them for years. 7T is a little high, about 2T according to the CBO. Of course that's 2T too much for conservatives. http://www.cbo.gov/budget/data/historical.pdf But with the MSM trashing you for 8 straight years, you only have so much room for family squabbles. Rush BEGGED the conservatives not to protest the GOP failures by sitting out the 2006 election, which is exactly what they did. And after taking Congress the Dems charged in and changed what policy exactly?
And where else do you expect to find criticism of "The One"? The MSM is too busy with their one hour free informercials, rigged town halls, prescreened briefings, White House tours, a new puppy, and of course we just NEED to know about Michele's new sweater..Its getting so bad even they can't keep the lid on much longer… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou7SGNo5QHE
I agree with you Mr. Robobbob
A few years ago I would have looked upon this with fear. However I supported the idea of a gold standard. Simply because it would be that….. a standard….. a system that economic calculation can be figured out.
In leu of the wild actions of the Federal Reserve, I welcome a gold/siver standard ( call it Amero or otherwise.)
Of course you must purchase gold and silver before this trend takes place, or else you get a pooh-pooh in your stocking, but if you purchase it the transition is something to look forward to. My national identity or even personal identity, does not come from my job, my country, or even the "greenback" it come from something that is not related at all to any of that stuff. I will still be an american, even if I use an Amero, I use visa in Europe & I am still an American. I was born in America, I will always be an American, eben when I don't like my countries policies.
what are you talking about here? i'm mexican and here in mexico city many people thinks that a north american union is the best option for mexico, canada and USA, just try to think, china as well as EU is increasing a lot and in some years they'll be more than USA i don't think absolutely that with the amero and this union these countries would lose the culture and sovereignty so imagine the powerful that we'd have in the world, we would be the best economy and the most powerful area because mexico needs usa and canada as well as they need us so don't be xenophobic because the country that is losing more than canada and mexico is USA in this crisis.
I can't help but feel that the success of the Amero would indicate clearly the extent of devaluation of national identities. That's all well and good for Europe, who are already headed for a bland cultural homogeneity that makes the U.S. look diverse by comparison, but I can't help but feel that whatever benefit we might gain from having an Amero or a North American Union would be immeasurably outweighed by what we, as individual nations, would lose in the process.
It took a lot of discipline to write that last paragraph; I would tell you what I really think of this idea, but the moderators would probably delete it.
Some of these hair brained ideas are the stated goal of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) of which many a powerful mukity-mucks are a member, right and left. One world, no borders, etc. Some things in this world defy logical explanation unless couched in conspiratorial terms. Bipartisan “Immigration Reform,” huh… do what? There is no reform, …simply stated it’s open border policy one way. NAFTA was to make ease of commerce between the three participants, manufacturing moved south of the border and a fifth of the Mexican population moved north of the border. This suppresses wages and helped drive home construction into the ground, and the subsequent stagnation of the American economy. Conspiracy theory perhaps, one thing is certain Washington is a self serving beast that needs it’s wings clipped, right and left.
I lot of us have seen the Amero coming for years. I think you're a little late on the subject, Michael.
China, Russia, etc., have already begun talking about a "world" currency. The Amero is soooo last year. There is nothing "conspiratorial" about the North American Union. It is happening, just like the European Union happened. But I do believe it will all fail. Totalitarianism always fails.
"Republicans clean up in Congressional elections, but still in minority. GOP does well but had a big hill to climb after losing 65 reps in 2 election cycles."
US Political history this full of "bloody" mid-term elections for the party in power:
1874 Republicans lose 96 House and eight Senate seats
1890 Republicans lose 85 House Seats (lost none in the Senate)
1894 Democrats lose 116 House and five Senate Seats
1910 Republicans lose 57 House and ten Senate Seats
1914 Democrats lose 59 House and five Senate Seats
1922 Republicans lose 75 House and eight Senate Seats
1938 Democrats lose 71 House and six Senate Seats
1942 Democrats lose 45 House and nine Senate Seats
1946 Democrats lose 55 House and twelve Senate Seats
1958 Republicans lose 48 House and thirteen Senate Seats
1966 Democrats lose 47 House and four Senate Seats
1974 Republicans lose 48 House and five Senate Seats
1994 Democrats lose 54 House and nine Senate Seats
And the 2006 midterms that were supposedly a spanking for the Republicans under George Bush?
They only lost 28 House and six Senate seats. No where near the dubbing as listed above. Let's hope 2010 is a repeat of 1894.
"And when you compare China’s land, resources and population to ours, the odds are clearly in China’s favor."
In what way? China has a population of over 1.3G squeezed into an area almost exactly the same size as the US, and over 4G fewer barrels of oil reserves. And due to the 'success' of their one child policy, they are heading for one hell of a demographic crunch…
Go to Greece to see how a one-size-fits-all currency works. Not pretty. The EUro is already a failure, it's just that the knot-headed bureaucrats won't admit it, because if they did, they'd be out of not only jobs, but graft opportunities as well. Now that you've been to Greece, you can imagine how Honduras, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Panama, and Belize would fare under the same currency the US and Canada use. In fact, Quebec might end up in almost exactly the same boat Greece is in, while the western provences would be fine…
I GOT IT! You're trying to break up Canada! Brilliant!
I used to be a huge believer in the NAFTA system. But after seeing the fiascos of the EU and the CIS, I've come to the realization that there is huge limit to the benfit of any major trade organization that involves multiple nations (take a look at their regulations in regards to simple things, such as production levels) Let's face it.. Everyone has their own ideas how things should be run, and how they should be run for the best of their own individual citizens
Not to mention, if this Amero were to be passed/created… guess what.. there goes the American dollar right down the proverbial outhouse.
As someone below said, that the difference between the North American countries and the European/South American/Asian communities (well, Asia not so much)… We're extremely patriotic for each of our own countries, where as in Europe, they've always grown from a common lineage throughout history… King of country a marries queen of country b… they have kids who then each have to marry into royalty of country c…
So they're all tied together, in a way that Canadians, Americans, Mexicans, Hondurans, Panamanians, etc. are not.
You are absolutely right about the limits to benefits derived from organizations such as N.A.F.T.A. I'm not quite as certain about the underlying notion of patriotism. Certainly the English and French have never been overly fond of each other. I think they basically were hoping for an economy that could compete with the U.S.A.
The Federal Reserve System was originally founded as a very closely guarded secret by American and European banksters.
Canada is more and more becoming a socialist state.
Mexico has always been run by thugs; look at the current thousands of murders by drug lords right now. Further Mexicans are mostly led by commie rats.
The USA does need either influence. To form the North American Union, us Gringos are all going to have to pretend that the world is beautiful. Ze girls are all beautiful.
Straighten both Canada and Mexico out, and we can talk.
Canada and Mexico both have vast resources of oil.
Yes, they are the ones I was referencing with "international cartel" I find that if you unload too much on people too quickly that they don't understand, or just write you off. I don't know how closely you are into this, but a poor copy of Quigely's "Money Masters" is available for viewing as is Russo's "Freedom to Fascism" anything else you see on there, you on your own-
http://www.informationliberation.com/?multimedia
Also Griffon-"It Came from Jekyl Island"- runs a website http://www.freedom-force.org/ warning website has been sluggish
care to place odds on HR 1207 actually making it? But remember, "they" already are looking ahead to their next scam-an international central bank that will invisibly subjugate all others
Yes, they are the ones I was referencing with "international cartel" I find that if you unload too much on people too quickly that they don't understand, or just write you off. I don't know how closely you are into this, but a poor copy of Quigely's "Money Masters" is available for viewing as is Russo's "Freedom to Fascism" anything else you see on there, you on your own-
http://www.informationliberation.com/?multimedia
Also Griffon-"It Came from Jekyl Island"- runs a website http://www.freedom-force.org/ warning website has been sluggish
care to place odds on HR 1207 actually making it? But remember, "they" already are looking ahead to their next scam-an international central bank that will invisibly subjugate all others
Yes, they are the ones I was referencing with "international cartel" I find that if you unload too much on people too quickly that they don't understand, or just write you off. I don't know how closely you are into this, but a poor copy of Quigely's "Money Masters" is available for viewing as is Russo's "Freedom to Fascism" anything else you see on there, you on your own-
http://www.informationliberation.com/?multimedia
Also Griffon-"It Came from Jekyl Island"- runs a website http://www.freedom-force.org/ warning website has been sluggish
care to place odds on HR 1207 actually making it? But remember, "they" already are looking ahead to their next scam-an international central bank that will invisibly subjugate all others
Yes, they are the ones I was referencing with "international cartel" I find that if you unload too much on people too quickly that they don't understand, or just write you off. I don't know how closely you are into this, but a poor copy of Quigely's "Money Masters" is available for viewing as is Russo's "Freedom to Fascism" anything else you see on there, you on your own-
http://www.informationliberation.com/?multimedia
Also Griffon-"It Came from Jekyl Island"- runs a website http://www.freedom-force.org/ warning website has been sluggish
care to place odds on HR 1207 actually making it? But remember, "they" already are looking ahead to their next scam-an international central bank that will invisibly subjugate all others
That was brilliant!
Money Masters is the best place to begin.
My favorite move nowadays is to point out that every time that the government needs cash that the Fed just prints it and charges the taxpayer 6%. I then tell them to figure out who owns the New York Fed. I also point out that they have figure out who owns the banks that own the New York Fed.
This argument is never going to end. High finance has to become an issue that no American ever takes their eyes off of – and that includes taking back media.
Glad to see such an optimist on this subject. Considering that those who bankrolled that last two statist power grabs walked away richer than ever, let alone getting what they deserved. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Most Americans are too busy trying to manage their lives to plan past tomorrow. Of course half of that "noise" is being generated for that purpose. The enemy holds all the high ground- big finance, public education, high education, the government bureaucracy, hollywood, MSM. The word is slowing getting out, but any rise approaching critical mass for action is most likely to be declared terrorism, a hate crime, racism, etc. whatever ism it takes to discredit or deflect the issues, and in turn justification for another round of crushing liberty. Patriot Act 3.2, HR 2749, HR 5122….Of course, we can stop it the same way you eat a whole pie…one piece at a time
Reasons for limited optimism.
Although we are losing freedoms daily, the banksters do not yet have us enslaved. If they could have, they would have, which means that a number of parameters are still in their way.
One of them is that fact that ancestors created a Constitution and Bill of Rights that provide a way to legally dethrone tyrants. We still have to be careful. Soros has at least one committee devoted to figuring out how to get rid of our Constitution, as do the North American Union European banksters.
Compared to the overall population, there are really a handful of Illuminati, Bilderbergers, in general the New World Order banksters (no more than 5,000). For some reason, I just don’t like the old “pitchforks and torches” image. I prefer a populace armed with assault rifles. Based on numbers alone, those guys don’t stand a chance.
One of the exceptions is if we continue to allow them to suck the life out of our economy and use that cash to finance first their own currency and later armies. NWO UN Blue Capps performing what they are most famous for, namely rape, and committing that in North America is eventually a real possibility.
Yes, most have to focus on feeding their families. However, back in the 60s, because Kennedy wanted NASA to go to the moon, he was able to double the number of science students, technicians and professors. There is absolutely no reason that we can’t help our civilization focus on its most vital self-interest, namely high finance.
Conservatives have to take back everything from the PTA, the school boards, Miss USA to the highest of high-finance.
Everything you named at the end of your post is an excuse for UN Blue Caps to invade us. That’s why we have to defund the Fed today.
Yes, there is sufficient resistance to slow their progress, but not stop it. They are on the "boiled frog" program. The 2nd amendment is a key component, but only in the MAD sense. Any attempt to use it will be a disaster.
First they will attempt to hollow the US out via NGO. Have you read Soro's "Open Society" and "Bubble of …Supremacy"? He's surprisingly open about the future he wishes to implement. To credit him with only ONE group is an understatement. http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/ A cap and trade funded world trade/central bank government system to supercede the Fed, with the power to dictate nationstate politics through binding international treaties. Can you say: http://www.iansa.org/
Worse case scenerio: If push comes to shove, I would expect a page from the Kosovo/Bosnia play book. Any patriot resistance will be labeled subversive, terrorism. Internal strife will be fanned into civil war. Once everything has collapsed into a smouldering ruin, the average starving person will be begging for outside intervention. Nato defense clause? Whatever the excuse, the blue hats will be welcomed with open arms. Possibly a multi state solution? This is where the NAU fits in. Only when its too late will people realize the devil's deal that they have entered into. Don't watch this if you want to sleep at night http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LVPf1-wRts
Meanwhile, we can fight, one blog at a time, one PTA at a time, one county council seat at a time. The "blue hat invasion" is counter productive imagery. They need to be stopped on the fields of ideas. By the time/if things go HOT, it will probably be too late. Its important to be prepared, but if all people do is sit in their bunker cleaning guns and canning food, we're going to lose. BTW as long as you keep sending them, I'll keep responding. your call
“Yes, there is sufficient resistance to slow their progress, but not stop it. They are on the "boiled frog" program.”
Agreed, I don’t believe that this conflict between the banksters and the people will ever end, so long it is a possible way for them to enslave us. What I haven’t made quite clear is that I advocate habitual calls to action by leaders for us to notice that the water is beginning to boil and that one of the ways to cool it off is to begin arguing over control of every public entity from the PTA to local TV, to Miss USA, to the local congressional districts, to the Fed and above. Only individuals can make the difference at the micro or macro levels.
“The 2nd amendment is a key component, but only in the MAD sense. Any attempt to use it will be a disaster.”
If we end up in I bloodthirsty revolution, it will be a disaster. However, if our bankster opponents realize that we never intend to defend ourselves, the ensuing ruin will be many times worse. Imagine Middle Easterners with Ali Baba swords sacking Davenport, Iowa. That’s not so far-fetched when you realize that 30 years ago there were only 200,000 Muslims in Europe; now between 20 and 50 million.
MAD also only works against an opponent who fears their own destruction. The zealots the Saudis and Iranians are rearing and financing might require us to exterminate them because they just won’t quit.
“First they will attempt to hollow the US out via NGO. Have you read Soro's "Open Society" and "Bubble of …Supremacy"?” He's surprisingly open about the future he wishes to implement.
No, I have been depending on Kyle-Anne Shiver who writes in AmerianThinker.com. But I will put them both on my Amazon wish list for when I have time. They might come very helpful for talking to libertarians who don’t believe that Soros means to destroy us.
“To credit him with only ONE group is an understatement. http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/
David Horowitz is always worth listening to. Again, I have been depending on Kyle-Anne and other American Thinker writers for Soros’s leftist organizations. Besides the five or six that he is financing here, apparently he is pulling the same thing in many nations around the world. He is accused of, after the Soviet Union fell, busting out in favor of the European banksters many of the old Soviet block countries. In other words he formed organizations that he used to destroy their economies.
“A cap and trade funded world trade/central bank government system to supercede the Fed, with the power to dictate nationstate politics through binding international treaties. Can you say: http://www.iansa.org/”
My favorite question when it comes to guns is: what would have happened if 6 million Jews had each owned 3 assault rifles?
Just looked at your RFID videos. The chip can generate a lot of freedom; it will most widely be used to invoke slavery.
I don't want anything implanted, but I might like to keep three or four of them with me at all times in necklaces, chip pockets in shirt linings, et cetera. The medical data could save my life. But if I ever wanted to get rid of them it would be easy.
We are going to need companies that sell services on an individual basis. That way I could carry personal info for when the St. Bernard rescues me in the Alps, but also be able to switch off the GPS locater w/o having to remove the battery, et cetera.
As we extend our lives we are going to have no choice but to use these devices if we want to live.
Possibly the most important decisions will be around how completely we want to merge with machines; see Gibson's Neuromancer.
my last comment triggered a filter so now I'm replying out of sequence.
The Islamists are only a smokescreen. They're dangerous, but really they're being let on the loose in order to distract us from the real power plays occurring in our own country. The EU is facing out of control middle east immigration. Here are major issue is from the south. It is a shame. Handled properly and in controlled doses, those people could be a powerful asset, and could even be encouraged to go conservative. How many modern Americans would walk hundreds of miles through the desert and risk death just for a job? sounds like future capitalists to me. The way its being done now is for self serving political reasons, and is walking us straight into the Amero/NAU scenerio.
Um, the RFID vid was meant to be terrifing, not be a sales pitch! Yes, like most horrifyingly bad ideas, they will be sold to the public as some sort of "safety" deal. But, no, I'm not against people voluntarily using technology, as long as they can turn it OFF.
Please don't give any of your money to these evil people. Many of the books are available at the library. But please do read. The full titles are "The Bubble of American Supremacy" and "Open Society" Now don't expect a confession and a blueprint, but it definitely identifies many key components to their ideas. Soros doesn't seek to destroy the US, just mold it to a more "open" society. Of course he doesn't mention that means trashing of the constitution to do it and turning us into a post EU style country. Mainstream people can dismiss an alarmist, but we one of the "insiders" writes it, its a lot harder to blow off.
I am familiar with all your RFID arguments. Although great evil is lurking, there are a lot of positives. I don't want anything subcutaneous. The modern world is going to involve RFID chips. We can either refuse to deal with advancements and become something like the Amish – basically sitting ducks – or we can try to figure out how to maintain our freedoms within technology.
Soros wants to be able to beat the crap out of and drug your mother, sister, your daughter until she sucks on whichever body part he demands. That’s what he means by an open society. I understand who Soros is. He’s a pig – not a pretend pig, but a very real pig.
Agreed, the Mexicans are being misled by commies: Maldef, La Raza, ACLU-like legal groups. This is being engineered by the NWO folks. We either fight it with similar, but conservative, organizations or we lose our country.
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