Comments on: The Faithful Go To Church, The Rest Go To Therapy

By: MovieBob

MovieBob — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:41:43 +0000

"you stated you have greater discomfort with destroying a fetus because of its (actual and scientific given the fetus' DNA vs. chicken or tree DNA and not merely "theoretical" as you allege) potential for personhood. Why do you have greater discomfort, then?"

In a word: Sentimentality. I can't eat turtle, either – can't even watch one being prepared for eating. Because I like turtles. They're cute.

A fetus has the potential to be a full-blown human. Potential, I stress. They also kinda look like babies at certain stages. So, yes, there is DISCOMFORT for me, for sentimental reasons. It is simply a matter of my commitment's to individual freedom, liberty, the right of people to do what they wish with their own bodies, to not be "trapped" by a biological occurance that can be mitigated or even prevented outweighing my sentimentality.

I'd LIKE to do away with abortion and skip the whole mess altogether. There's research being done in the areas of time-limited chemical sterilization (a "night before" pill for men, basically) that holds tremendous promise in this regard.

By: Tim H

Tim H — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:26:45 +0000

I believe you're right about the Chesterton/Lewis quote, but Lewis was heavily influenced by Chesterton and might have repeated it later.

By: christopher wiebe

christopher wiebe — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:22:31 +0000

my buddy Atheist has a word for them, Secular Humanists. And he finds it annoying that they wants alot of the morals of the Church, but then attack the Church. Its funny really.

By: Christopher Wiebe

Christopher Wiebe — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:15:49 +0000

well then, that would be the Bible with alot of pages missing, "much like your salad bar" as Eg Chen would say. but totally agree with the Obama remark.

By: Christopher Wiebe

Christopher Wiebe — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:31:29 +0000

what about them? you see Blake, your question has a bias built in, that bias being that people can't disagree and move on. That is wrong, they can disagree and go do other things, that is one of the basics built into Christianity. Not everyone has to agree.

By: Michael McGruther

Michael McGruther — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:30:04 +0000

Dear MovieBob,

A fart is a “biological occourance” a human fetus is so much more that that.

By: MovieBob

MovieBob — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:43:50 +0000

Our Revolution began in the streets, with angry citizens throwing rocks at law enforcement; and continued with a team of angry young men donning colorful costumes to committ an act of vandalism against a corporate entity. You can call that a lot of things, "conservative" wouldn't be the first to leap to my mind

By: Blake7

Blake7 — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:26:03 +0000

Michael, That is the point I was trying to get at. When I read some of these posts, people were saying that their version of Christianity is right and if you don't believe exactly what they believe, then you can't be a Christian. I do believe Jesus is God, but I recognize that other's don't, and I think it's horribly destructive to our cause (the conservative cause) for people who have so much in common to start pointing fingers at each other and accusing them of being "sick" in the soul or "wrong." I cringe when I hear Christians — who are demanding tolerance in society — be intollerant to anyone who's views differ in the slightest.

Think about how angry you would be if an atheist came here and said, "people who need to believe in Jesus have weak minds and need a myth to follow." I think this would be obnoxious, but so is the inverse. What I've been trying to get at in my posts, is to make people here realize that much of what they say comes across as accusatory to those who don't share their exact views, even if they don't see that.

By: chauvinistpig

chauvinistpig — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:13:41 +0000

Abortion isn't necessarily a spiritual issue. Many believe that the rights of the unborn should be guaranteed and protected by law. The recent case of the aborted baby tossed living into the trash is a perfect example of what is wrong with our laws that govern abortion. Either way the baby was doomed to die. Why do we consider throwing it in the trash to die any different from scrambling its brain just before birth? IMHO abortion is not a religious issue… but liberals have been successful in painting it that way.

By: Carl in Phoenix

Carl in Phoenix — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 06:36:12 +0000

One of the best, most thoughtful, and insightful articles I have ever read. In a class with C.S. Lewis