The Hidden Truth Behind ‘V’
by Leigh ScottLike many conservatives, I was intrigued and excited by the promos for ABC’s reboot of one of my favorite mini-series, “V.” Finally, we thought, one of us had infiltrated the system and slipped one by the hippies who run Hollywood. Even better, we hoped that ABC, in a brash display of “corporate greed” had decided to green-light a series that appeals to the many of us (the majority of the country actually) who are less than enthralled by the hopey changeiness of the current administration.

Old School Visitor
But alas, it wasn’t meant to be. As my colleague Jeffrey Jena pointed out, the show’s writer is a devout leftist and Obama supporter. The show was actually written in 2007, long before David Axelrod and his minions concocted the brilliant marketing campaign that elevated an inexperienced and naive community organizer to the most powerful position in the world.
So, is that it? Case closed? Is “V” not an indictment and slam at the “O-mania” that swept the nation? Far from it. In fact, the show contains two powerful messages that should warm the hearts of all conservatives and make leftists think twice.
All art and good storytelling contain subtext. Sometimes, the creator of the work sets out to tell a story using the subtext as the motivator. On other occasions, the writer or filmmaker lets the subtext develop as the characters move through their arcs and the plot unfolds. James Cameron has stated in several interviews that the themes in “Terminator 2″ didn’t fully gel until after he completed the first draft of the screenplay. He read through his own script and realized, “hey, now I get what it’s about.”
Scott Peters didn’t set out to make a show that exposed the dangers of hero worship and the insidiousness of fascist and statist societies. He didn’t want to compare the Obama administration and the Democrats to flesh eating reptiles.
But he did.
Peters simply imagined how, in today’s society, one group could control the masses. Replace religion with secular or scientific “hope.” Promise things that are impossible like free universal health care. Manipulate the media and force journalists to only portray the positives in order to protect their careers and their egos. Utilize the Internet through social networking and slick websites. Create a sense of “coolness” and “hipness” in order to woo the youth of the world.
All of these tactics are amoral, corrupt, shifty, and slimy. It’s not Peters’ fault that they would actually be used by an American politician.
The artist, the creative force that is Scott Peters, subconsciously knows that these tactics are wrong. He knows, deep down inside that the path of the Visitors, like all totalitarians, is similar to what Obama used to gain power. Behind the slick marketing campaign lies something else. Whether or not that “something else” in the real world is evil or just incompetent is yet to be seen.
It’s shocking that a major network would put out a high-profile show that seems to skewer this president and his lackeys. What is even more shocking is that the writer of the show, who nailed Obama’s marketing campaign right down to the key slogans and key policies, would dedicate his time and money to support something that his own inner voice discerned was wrong.
It takes a healthy dose of cynicism, a dash of historical ignorance, and a lot of gullibility to fully embrace modern statist rhetoric. Hollywood drinks the kool-aid by the gallon. Yet, in their pursuit of good story telling and their aspirations towards art, they more often than not end up making really good conservative stories.
When you get right down to it, the reason there are so few “conservative” films out there is because most films are inherently conservative. Any film that champions the rise and strength of the individual is conservative. Any story that tells of the triumphs of good over evil is conservative. The subtext of films that resonate, films that capture our imaginations, are based on the romantic ideals of conservative thought.
We all know the classic romantic comedy formula. Boy meets girl, boy gets girl, boy loses girl, boy gets girl back. The backbone of this formula is individual achievement. Note that it isn’t boy meets girl, then boy gets government to force girl to be with him in the interest of “fairness.”
How many films end with the hero submitting to the collective? Did the audience cheer at the end of the “Invasion of Body Snatchers” remake? Were they happy that Donald Sutherland had given up that pesky individualism thing and joined the alien hive mind? When Jean-Luc Picard temporarily became Locutus of Borg did we all breathe a sigh of relief because we could finally root for the lead character of the series?
I’m sure everyone who serves in Palpatine’s galactic empire gets free health care. I don’t think Darth Vader had to pay an HMO for his suit. Yet, didn’t we all cheer when the rebels destroyed the Death Star?
The very funny and underrated film “The House Bunny” features a bunch of ugly duckling girls who find inner confidence and give each other makeovers to better their situation. They emerge from a snappy montage as a group of knock-outs. Again, this is conservatism. The girls rise to the occasion. They elevate themselves through achievement. Anna Faris’ character isn’t forced to make herself ugly in order to fit in with the awkward sorority.

This blog's subtext is to post photos of Anna Faris
Yet, in real life, Hollywood creative types advocate bashing all of us with an economic “ugly stick.”
Like many, I find it tedious and distracting when films and television shows delve into non sequiturs to bash Republicans, Christianity, and Conservatism in general. It’s not because I am religious (I am a devout Agnostic) nor because I call myself a Republican (I do not).
I despise it because it’s bad storytelling.
Progressive ideology does not fit well with classic narrative structures. The greatest stories are ones that champion things like individualism, freedom and faith. Big governments, collective thought, and cold scientific secularism make better villains than heroes.
Instinctively, we all know this.
So we can take solace in the fact that “V” is a classic validation of our ideology. We can also take away the fact that even the most die-hard, kool-aid drinking leftists know deep down inside that we are right. They might not say it with their voices, but they say it with their hearts.
And that’s enough for me.
As an afterthought, let me say that while I enjoyed the new “V,” it failed to capture the magic of the 80s mini-series. No Marc Singer, no Michael Ironside, and no yummy Jane Badler. The cast was bland, the story a bit plodding and the visual effects looked like those that show up in my movies (that is not a compliment).
As a sci-fi junkie, I’ll keep watching…hoping the show will change for the better.




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Now that's the funny thing, in the mind of the leftist or statist; civilization, advancement and improvement is achieved by denial of our base human instincts (including right and wrong) because they are base, simple and crude. Base instincts are not lofty enough to serve the good of mankind…
I lurv your subtext!
C'mon – get off the agnostic fence and join the rebels. Great article!
"In every government on earth is some trace of human weakness, some germ of corruption, and degeneracy, which cunning will discover, and wickedness insensibly open, cultivate and improve." — Thomas Jefferson
"What is government itself but the greatest of all reflections on human nature? If men were angels, no government would be necessary." — James Madison
"Well Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?" "A republic if you can keep it" responded Franklin.
Survival of our republic depends on adequate education of the citizenry. Unfortunately, that is deficient in the extreme now. Without an educated voter, our republic is doomed to cultivation and desctruction by the wickedness Jefferson foretold. I fear we will be unable to keep our republic if we cannot stop and reverse the stampede now in process towards everything for everybody, paid for with resources we do not have.
I find it interesting that if this had come out 2 years ago, all the people who are defensive would have probably cheered it as anti-Bush.
"V" is a fable… actually a modern remake of a very old fable called "The Wolf in Sheep's Clothing". The wolf thinks it is a good idea to hide himself as a sheep to steal a lamb… to take from the shepherd's livelyhood to support it's own. As a fable, it serves as a generic lesson. We substitute real life characters for the characters in the story to give us guidance. The fact that the Obama Administration can slide into the role of the wolf just as easily as the Nazis can does not speek well for the Obama Administration. The main lesson in that fable is taught at the end of the fable where the wolf in sheep's clothing is killed by another wolf. The lesson is that evil is eventually destroyed through it's own trickery. Let's hope the Obama Administration finds the same end.
I can't get enough sci-fi, anyone here think they Battlestar Galactica'd the new Stargate Universe series. Cause it is stinking rotting eggs of moralism and drama. Oh well guess its time to rewatch the complete series and movies of Frascape….
Actually, I'll bet that when Mr. Peters was writing this series (as you report, in 2007) he thought he was making a statement on the Bush Administration. Projection is one of the keys to the Liberal thought process.
And that is why people need to either be involved in the education of there kids or pull their kids out of these governmentfundewelfareschools. http://www.schoolandstate.org/home.htm
Just because a kid is educated in the public school doesn't mean that they parent can't supplement or correct that education.
Every facet of society is now infested by marxists, thanks to our educational system. Prepositioned for the destruction of everything we hold dear. Starting with our personal freedom. Yes, we too,have vipers among us.
Sorry! That should've been "their" in the first line. Too rushed to proof read. And in the fourth line it should read "the" before parent.
I took some time and watched the first two episodes last night. I see where the parallels have been drawn, and how they have struck a chord throughout the conservative movement. I have felt the same kind of "through the looking glass" awakening as the plots and plans of beloved leader have been unraveled in front of us, and i wonder when we will be meeting in a warehouse on the bad side of town.
The best stories show the rising of the human spirit against those who would enslave them, and that will always be conservative territory. One thing that has come with the improved visual technology is the ability to tell the story in a more striking fashion, which may get some more of the fence sitters to consider action regardless of their circumstances.
Like any movement, ours started 200+ years ago, much like the one unfolding in this story, one person finding one other to trust, and the search to find more people of like mind to make the difference for all of us.
It's a frigging tv show you all … seriously !!!
Please just watch the show and enjoy. No hidden meaning here… not unless you want to concoct something to push your own agenda.
Which I find it funny that this show was picked for it.
I would have never trusted that last V woman leader, I mean she just looks like an evil dominatrix B***H.
Even the American Blockhead public probably could not miss the similarities between the V manipulation of the news media and the Obama show.
Sure we are focusing on something that doesn't really matter. But isn't it telling that the left is a little uncomfortable? They must see the parallels, or they wouldn't be defensive. So why not ?
I agree. Stargate Universe is crap so far. It's like they started with season 4 of Cattlecar Galactica,
My Firefly, SG-1, and classic sci-fi disks are sure getting a workout these days.
The sad part is that half of them have been so useful idiotized that they don't even know that they've become Marxist tools.
Mark Levin wrote his book "Liberty and Tryanny" during the Bush years. (I havne't read it)…
From what I hear , his description of the Statists fits Obama very well.. Some people thought he wrote it with Obama in mind.
It's funny how well Obama is fitting so many different people's conception of Liberty-damaging tryant.
My wife and I have this discussion all the time. "Why can't you just watch something without seeing the hidden meaning or what the creator was trying to say?" Well, because it's in there for a reason. The people who put this subtext in their creations did so for a reason, for a purpose, probably for a goal. They didn't do it so it would be ignored. Sure, you can ignore it if you want, but I choose to see what the artist is trying to say and then determine whether or not it is valid, makes any sense, helps the story, etc… To ignore the subtext is more of an affront to the piece of work than to harp on it.
Ahh, Judge Elihu Smails from Caddyshack: The Hollywood prototype for country club Republican. What we might call a RINO.
"It's a frigging <s>tv show</s> movie <s>you</s> <s>all</s> dude … seriously !!!"
If conservatives are such individualists, why can't you come up with something better than repeating the hackneyed "Kool-Aid" trope like a mantra? Boring. But it IS interesting to note that Hollywood's opinions matter when they agree with yours.
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BOYCOTTING Hollyweird is one of my 20 steps.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Most people just want balance. No one has a problem with a fair minded liberal like Ben Affleck, but his simpleton cohort I Am Matt Damon grates on our nerves because he claims things that are inherently untrue. There are also liberal movies that are fair and rewarding, though they are diamonds in the tons of coal that is Redacted, Rendition, Stop Loss, etc… I don't mind there being stuff out there that comes from a liberal perspective, but when there is virtually nothing that comes from the conservative perspective, it can become tiresome. In addition, it's always handled with more class when it comes from a conservative. You don't see Larry the Cable Guy wishing Olbermann's kidneys would fail.
Ohh that was just the teaser episodes…you watch..instead of allowing them to be malevolent predators on unsuspecting masses, evil by their very nature and spirit..they will end up being the snake in the garden that tempted Eve. And at some point..we will be shown that the V's simply had no choice but to act so foolishly and come to realize the error of their ways thanks to the strong humanitarian spirit. Can't wait to see how they twist the Red Dawn remake to make it our fault we were invaded.
Totally agree.
I may not make it through another episode. I already planned to take it off my DVR season pass list.
I guess I'm just not smart enough to be entertained by life in grayscale.
This was the point of discussion the other day on another blog, and Leigh you’ve brilliantly colored the reality of storytelling. Great stories, cinema, always have a conservative subtext, good verses evil, etc. For instance, sit down with a mixed group, conservative/liberal and watch “The Lives of Others.” A movie about East Germany behind the Iron Curtain, and you can be certain that no one will say at the end of the movie, “boy wouldn’t it be cool to live under the East German Stasi,” moonbats excluded.
Elihu, your biblical namesake was a wise person who was also a very careful listener.
Please read Scott's post again, 'listening' to his point. I think you'll see that he was talking about a larger idea using this particular 'frigging tv show' to make that point.
Art imitating life. Maybe the writers had a "vision".
I find that this is the value and the art of True Sci-Fi. The ability to look at all the ugly we are too politically correct or afraid to face set among monsters and aliens. I enjoyed reading this article not because it pandered to my personal religious or political bent but because it reveals a truth that few are willing to admit. Liberalism is never heroic, nor does it ever provide the cohesion needed to keep a culture unified and strong. Progressive is a positive term but becomes regressive when it encroaches on energies and freedom individuals. Cleaver arguments never quench the thirst for freedom that moves society forward. Thanks for a great article I am glad I found it and read it today.
I find that this is the value and the art of True Sci-Fi. The ability to look at all the ugly we are too politically correct or afraid to face set among monsters and aliens. I enjoyed reading this article not because it pandered to my personal religious or political bent but because it reveals a truth that few are willing to admit. Liberalism is never heroic, nor does it ever provide the cohesion needed to keep a culture unified and strong. Progressive is a positive term but becomes regressive when it encroaches on energies and freedom individuals. Cleaver arguments never quench the thirst for freedom that moves society forward. Thanks for a great article I am glad I found it and read it today.
You are so right re: SGU and BSG. Both shows are all angst and no heart or humor. I'm tired of writers who mistake "dark" (apparently the darling term du jour) for intelligent or thought-provoking.
Why are you so enamoured of your brand of cool-aid? Why would you be willing to trade your freedom for an ideology that will lead to loss of sovereignty and our economic destruction? A commentor (irishj1) on another Breitbart column posited this explanation – "Yesterday's flower children are today's blooming idiots", and suffer from 'fetal drug & alcohol syndrome', and who knows what else, after rolling in the mud and muck at Woodstock and roaming the streets of Haight Ashbury. Take a long look at the make up of SFran. It has never recovered. Those who didn't die from drugs and stupidity, went into journalism, universities and colleges and are now running the country." The shoe fits. Wear it and weep.
would you prefer "flavor aid"? you know to improve the taste of the cyanide
Great take on "V" and the libs who write/create these shows. I would add, however, that once the writers find "the script" and it is successful, they won't care who it pisses off. The networks' ratings are tanking and if they happen to find a show that brings ratings to it, they will keep it and appeal to the viewers (who happen to be mostly conservative). My point is that the almighty dollar will drive this storyline and it won't matter what the O admin says, it stays.
Janie – even more interesting is that Hollywood's opinions make money when it appeals to conservative idealism. Just a thought…
Unrestrained capitalism not only permits, but encourages, the worst excesses of human nature to flourish, including the sickening need not just to be, but to FEEL superior to one's fellows. Of course, pure socialism never has and never can exist because human's are inately ego driven and competive. But the system we have now in which capitalism trumped nationalism, while great for the capitalists, has been miserable for the country.
The Obama is evil jargon falls flat. I voted for Mccain, but Obama is no socialist. He's done nothing to clamp down on the swindlers from Wall Street whose latest scam lines their pockets with profits derived from tax payer dollars.
Maybe Lou Dobbs will decide to run as an independent in 2012 and then we can see what a true populist regime would do? He'd be an even bigger assasination target than Obama because the loose oligarchy that has taken over the Republic would feel threatened.
Unless the arms have been broken off.
I definitely think "V" (and pretty much any other show) could be improved by adding a Jeffrey Combs character with tentacles coming out of his chest (and that IS a compliment).
Conservatives v Liberals, Republicans v Democrats, Federalists v Republican-Democrats, Whigs v Democrats, on and on and on. Our country has always been divided fairly equally and we're still standing. If either party had complete control it would be a disaster, yet both ideologies feel that if they had complete control we would achieve some sort of Nirvana. I like the show, and I think of the V in the context of the aforementioned rivalries, in that they inspire division. Sit back and enjoy, knowing that our country is not going to be transformed into either a socialist commune or a draconian police state. But, please, keep up the name calling – that's just good entertainment.
Now that is the weakest post I have ever read. Vacuous in fact. Say hi to Jim.
Sorry, I'm not allowed to have a bumper sticker without getting pulled over for a stern talking-to by the police nowadays. I'm pretty sure if I had an agenda I'd wind up on a watch list. Only Muslims and San Francisco politicians are allowed to have an agenda now.
Seriously, read some of the liberal hate on how the show is shamelessly pandering to the paranoid gun-clinging crowd, and how trash like this belongs on Fox. Both wings are actually beating in unison on this one. I haven't seen that happen since 9/11.
I love how they have have Alan Tudyk "Wash" and Morena Baccarin "Inara" in V. The best crossover was when Frascape (biggest mistake ever sci-fi channel) was cancelled they brought both Claudia Black and Ben Browder to Stargate SG1.
…and the reference to Farscape in the 200th episode of SG-1?
So, how long will it be before they correct their oversight?
Just a quick and silent cancellation, or perhaps it will be discovered that the V are actually here to valiantly protect us from a greater alien evil. And afterall, they ask for so little in return, even selflessly helping with our over population problems. Eventually the people will see the light and form a kool aide drinking UFO cult who volunteer to be lunch. Just like how it was a honor to be the volcano bride.
Little known V fact: people taste like brussel sprouts to them. Oh the suffering they do on our behalf.
there is no show that can't be made better by including Jeffery, truly one of the greats in sci-fi. I couldn't think of a better guy to play the main Andorian on Enterprise
"denial of our base human instincts (including right and wrong) because they are base, simple and crude"
Suspiciously similar to Christian ethics. Including the concept that our instincts of right and wrong are in fact base, crude, simple, and mostly misguided.
Wow. So the Left and/or statists are essentially trying to replace Christian ethics with their own, and ostensibly the same ethics… No, not the same. They serve (a) different god(s), and for different purposes. And they reject the same purpose in other world views. An untenable situation, I think.
Especially considering that most of your movies probably cost less than V's catering budget…
What you're advocating is called an unstable equilibrium. All is fine until the slightest miscalculation throws the entire system into complete breakdown. If each successive side would evenly undo the others policy shift, it might work, but now each side is constantly raising the stakes. Oh, you'll go into debt 400Billion, I'll go 1TRILLION. You create one government boondoogle bailout, I'll create five. You wiretap US/overseas phone calls, I'll listen to EVERYBODY's. Eventually it has to end………..badly.
Hmm. I didn't know the V were flesh-eating reptiles. But it makes sense, and is predictable.
Perhaps they will only want us for some enzyme, or protein, or maybe even just our water. Of course, those movies have already been done, but let's see the plot developed more fully than 120 minutes allows.
ps – My wife got the anti-Obama subtext without even reading about it. She is not the dullest blade in the drawer.
May Farscape and Firefly infiltrate all!
Resistance is futile in the best of ways.
As for your assessment on O. He is a socialist. You need to study up on history and politics. Even as Lenin was trashing capitalism and killing opponents, they were borrowing money, trading, and cutting deals with the West. Try reading "Animal Farm" for a rather overt satire of how it really works
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You need to realize that all that collectivism, shared suffering, and greater good is for the "LITTLE PEOPLE" Those things don't apply to the Elite running the show. And they know how to take care of their friends. Socialism can only be maintained over time through coercion. It is slavery blanketed under hypocrisy. Capitalism is voluntary, even if sometimes unfair. And yes, capitalism can run amoke. That's why it would have been right to let those banksters crash and burn. And why an honest administration would be holding a Pecora Commission right now and sending people to JAIL.
"socialist commune or a draconian police state" is an odd statement in that every country extolling its success with the first contains its citizenry within a barrier of the second.
Proof in itself that "V" is in fact, if not downright conservative, then certainly anti-Obama. For the liberals, this show is hitting way too close for comfort.
Good article, Leigh, and great observation about "conservative" values in entertainment. Look at the wild success of movies like "The Dark Knight" and "300".
The biggest problems of the Sci-Fi genre is special effects first,sex second,story third( Think Buck Rodgers in the 25th century in the 80s). the series V in the 80s Half the stories were actually good, the whole "Starchild" thing left me feeling embarassed to watch. It's like failed new age writers who could'nt get a gig for Star Trek put stories involving weird mystisiam and aliens eating rodents.
Hey, I have nothing against Kool-Aid. I actually love Kool-Aid, and drink it regularly…sans cyanide, of course. It really sours up the stuff, in addition to killing people.
"The Lives of Others," the best foreign film I have ever seen. Actually, the only good foreign film I have seen.
Yes, we're still standing, but America has NEVER had this kind of assault on so many fronts at the same time. One party is completely in control and hell-bent on implementing "by force, if necessary" their radical agenda. Obama's mentors, heroes, influences are all radicals – not leftists with left leaning democratic ideals, but radicals with socialist and communist ideals AND the desire and determination to completely shift the paradigm. Saul Alinksky, William Ayers and Jeremiah Wright are not Democrats, but radicals. Obama was in Wright's church for 20 YEARS. Baptised his kids. Alinsky book, "Rules for Radicals" is Obama's playbook, and Obama launched his campaign for Congress in Ayers living room. Obama’s mysterious mentor “Frank” in Obama’s book "Dreams from My Father" was Communist Party member Frank Marshall Davis (the Obama campaign eventually confirmed Frank’s identity.) Obama has surrounded himself in his administration with admitted socialists and communists: Van Jones, Carol Browner and Ezekiel Emmanuel. Clearly, this is no longer a couple of random people in Obama’s life but instead a scary trend that makes it clear Obama wants these people around him. He must agree with their philosophies and ideas to some degree, otherwise why keep them around? These are significant influences and Obama has embraced their viewpoints and goals. Irish67 your comment that we should "Sit back and enjoy, knowing that our country is not going to be transformed into either a socialist commune or a draconian police state." is ignorant, to say the least. "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." William Burke
Isn't "V" sort of a re-telling, re-imagining, homage, elaboration or whatever the term is these days, of Damon Knight's "To Serve Man?" Aliens come to earth full of promises of high tech Utopia, then it turns out they really want to eat us. I guess it's an ancient idea – the cautionary tale about things too good to be true. Check out Hansel and Gretel and the nice old lady in her house made of goodies, who, it turns out, really wants to eat them. I don't think it fits any specific political agenda. ALL politicians promise us things, usually for reasons that have little to do with improving our welfare.
The reason you see simple lines or terms is because most people are lazy and can not digest lengthy arguments that clearly state the obvious: Being a believer in progressives, er…Socialists…er…liberals, er…communists – hey what DO they call themselves anymore – oh that's right, they can't stand by their standards because doing so would clearly show they have no standards…..
A better way of moving from the term coolaid is to use a quote from Ronald Reagan
A Communist (er…liberal, er…progressive etc) is someone who reads Marx and Lenin. An Anti-Communist is someone who reads Marx and Lenin and understands them.
Hence: if we used the right terms and long discussions you and others who pseudo-think like you would poo-poo the writing as it requires thought. Therefore, a simple phrase captures it all.
Tired Meme? Really? Hey, try: smash capitalism… oh MAN is THAT tired!
Further:
Capilatism is doing what you can to do what you do best. Sure, there are moral limits, we all need those, but that is not the real item of your discussion. Anyone can clearly see that Socialists are not interested in equal opportunity only equal outcome. Ideally that means all the people (read Proletariat) must be made poor so the elites can rule…getting rich and powerful…without hard work, just dictatorial methods.
Wall Street greed? Hm… I wonder if there is some sort of connection to massive government programs and tax dodges and …well you get the idea: too much government involvement.
If you are jealous of someone who has wealth, why not channel that energy in emulating them instead of emasculating them….
I am all for an honest administration (as is robobob)…a socialist would naturally disagree, since that would mean transparancy and thus no one in their right mind would vote for their own destruction under Socialism.
P.S. – I'm so tired of "Oooh, the aliens look just like us – how suspenseful!" I know we're trying to save money on SFX, but come on – how are extraterrestrials who look and act exactly like people even remotely interesting? Get Wayne Barlowe to design some alien visitors and…turn 'em loose! Make them inscrutable and implacable and impossible to communicate with. The possibilities are endless. With aliens-who-look-like-people, all you get is another soap opera, political thriller, murder mystery, or some other genre masquerading as SF. (I have to excuse the new Battlestar Galactica, in which the some of the humans WERE the aliens but didn't know it and were a bit put out when they learned the truth. Not bad.)
Awww…thanks guys. And I'll share the love with Jeff next time I talk to him!
Replace Anna with Obama and we have a real life reality show.
In real life it's way scarier, plus the liberal woman are oh so not hot.
I like how this piece points out the director must know deep down its all wrong but he still supports Obama.
It's exactly like how all the Obama supporters attacked Prejean for saying the exact same thing about gay marriage and religion as Obama. That sort of thing is only possible if deep down they know Obama's lying but she's not.
Yup, that sums 'em up.
I think he wants designer water, to go with his tony image. Dasani, maybe?
A profound observation, Leigh, wrapped in an amusing delivery. There are many conservatives wandering around out there, even in LALA land, who have no idea that the sentiments they embrace are the same as the eeeevill Dick Cheney, who donates most of his income to charity.
As with unveiling the human flesh-eating reptiles beneath the surface layer of the Visitors, our task is to unmask the cold, reptilian nature of the Statist beneath the "compassionate" pose of modern liberalism.
Their Godhead is the state.
"Progressive ideology does not fit well with classic narrative structures."
That's unfortunate since many many in Hollywood see their life's goal as to educate the stupid masses.
V is one of my favorite new shows…. if you really want to at least be having this discussion, I would support this show instead of looking for nitpicking ways to pull it apart. This is the best tv sci-fi we're likely to get for awhile, and making comparisons to the original doesn't really mean anything. This isn't the original, this is an update. Enjoy it on its own merits, or it's gonna get canceled, and there will be no more "V is about Obama" discussons in the popular consciousness.
Well, past Statists from Hitler to Kim Jong Il keep reading from the same playbook, which inspired anti-Statist fare like "V." So, it makes sense that Obama's actions would echo those of the evil Visitors so well.
Stargate Universe is like the formulaic, ugly baby of Voyager and BSG — wonder what vital supply they'll be running out of this week?
Farscape and Firefly = best sf shows of all time!
The not so hidden truth behind "V" is that its pretty lousy television.
Ideas are powerful things Judge, be careful how you handle them, you may get hurt… Satire and ridicule has brought down more than just the big bad wolf.
I like the new V, but I hope those 'cold blooded reptiles' become more emotionally developed characters. Part of the fun of the original was Diana's campy, petulant, conniving and power mad ways.
I'm impressed that SmarterThanLibs cannot figure out how to operate a spellchecker.
The best analogy of what's happening with 'V' is what happened 39 years ago with "Patton". George C. Scott and screenwriter Francis Ford Coppola did not set out to make a movie that would have viewers for the most part rooting for the hard-nosed tactics of the title character, especially with the Vietnam War going on and with Nixon now in the White House, but that's what happened.
But since "V" is an ongoing mini-series, where new episodes can be 'adjusted' now that the people in charge know the analogy that viewers are making to the Obama crowd, it will be fun to see how they handle the situation, especially since they're dealing with the remake of a 25-year-old show, where viewers know the ailens don't become more lovable or understandable as time goes on.
They are going to have to hire Tom Green to train the hotties on how to eat a live mouse and not have it bite you or poop in your mouth.
I've been watching V so far… its not horrible, and its better than most of the other crap thats on TV now a days, (which aint saying much.) But I do really like Fringe over on Fox. Lots of X files creepiness with good characters. And if your really that into Sci Fi let me direct you to a Science Fiction website still in its rudimentary stage. I'm slowly developing a background for a SciFi tale I've been trying to write for years. And I'm open to suggestions. The site is neoxeno.com Check it out.
Especially when they portray the opposing view of their message with weak counterpoints to make opposition to their message look stupid.
Perfect example is the democrats keep changing the description in the health care bill like "public option" to "consumer choice" in an Orwellian manner to influence the sheep they believe us to be.
"Yet, in their pursuit of good story telling and their aspirations towards art, they more often than not end up making really good conservative stories."
Hilarious. And you know how we know this is true? Somewhere along the way the filmmaker realizes this and inserts a inexplicable scene with a photo of George Bush (or Nixon) on the wall accompanied by some guilt-by-association "leading the witness" lines into the script. And then they shamelessly return to the 'original' storyline. (How stupid do they think we are?)
It's too bad. Just when you think you have a good apolitical production they go and fluck it up. I'm not sure if I want to put "V" on the Yellow Light List yet maybe. Being a Star Trek convert I may have to give it a shot. And Scott Peters? You can be damn sure to credit Leigh Scott if I do.
(This post's subtext is to reference Seven of Nine. The real reason I was baited to Trek? Jeri.)
Jeffery Combs and Bruce Campbell walk into a bar…
…the bar immediately explodes because it's puny man-made walls cannot contain the awesomeness within.
Just how hungry for validation are you?
V, the original, was a crappy series to begin with. V, the remake, brings better visuals but not much else. The fact that it was made at all points up nothing but the Hollywood's phobia of originality and risk.
The fact that people are talking about it's political undertones means there's a PR flack out there who is worth his or her salt.
Dance, puppets, and give this turd some free publicity!
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Typical. That's the best retort you can muster. Spell check? Why not pull out your red ink pen and tackle all of my typos? My post below you will find this: a inexplicable scene. Yes I know it should be AN inexplicable scene.
But grammer wasn't the point of the post. The point of my post was how silly and infantile hyper-liberals act. You know? Like changing the color of ink from red to purple so a student's feelings are saved.
Ever notice how Conservatives always have "trope" but liberals have "slogans?" Have fun being part of the collective, Janie.
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Note that SmarterThanLibs calls him or herself SmarterThanLibs. This makes the terrible writing funny.
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Conservatism is about freedom and the individual? How?
Conservatives have been the main driving force behind drug prohibition. Few things are more oppressive than having a government tell me what I can or cannot put into my own body. The anti-drug movement is just a huge cover for an anti-progress movement. The feds didn't go after LSD because people were trying to fly from rooftops. They went after it because intelligent people were taking it and realizing that life had more to offer than a boring job in an office and an insipid existence in a suburb. LSD also made people realize that the Vietnam war wasn't about freedom or democracy.
Drug prohibition has created a multi-billion dollar source of revenue for criminal organizations. This money buys guns, corrupts officials and fuels violence.
Drug prohibition has eroded civil rights. National and local authorities can confiscate property and forcefully enter private homes with impunity. All this stuff is backed by conservatives.
At the same time these conservatives consume legal pharmaceuticals by the truckload. Rush Limbaugh is the embodiment of the conservative movement. He is a fat, hateful, drug addict who advocates the harshest treatment of drug offenders possible while he himself breaks the law to score his own supply.
Baby boomer generation: Worst American Generation ever.
I think I've lost patience with SGU. The more I watch old episodes of SG-1, the more distant that show becomes.
To make a truly adventurous series full of heroism and sacrifice is a true accomplishment. To make an angsty, morally diluted melodrama … not so much.
I'm gonna have to buy Firefly on Blu-Ray — my DVDs may nat last very much longer.
Only for someone with the intellectual capacity of a teaspoon.
I'll grant you that no true conservative chuckles at self-defined elitists.
Ah…so you're saying that even someone with terrible writing is smarter than a liberal.
Who could argue with that?
I am sorry, did you just hold up Ben "Rock the Vote, because I am not even registered" Affleck as a fair minded liberal?
"almighty dollar will drive"
True for conservatives but, sadly, not for "Hollywood Liberals".
You mean like you liberal vermin use the cliche "speaking truth to power" ad nauseam? Talk about projection.
Voters?
Wow, are you even remotely familiar with the story here? The V don't look anything like us, unless you are a sleestak. They are only pretending to look like us to put us at ease and curry our devotion.
One of my favorite Jeffrey Combs characters was D-Day from the movie "Fortress". Then again, he is great in everything he does. Hell, I'd go outta my way to see "Anne of Green Gables" if I knew Mr. Combs would be in it with tentacles coming out of his chest.
Conservatives, Republicans = draconian police state
Liberals, Democrats = socialist commune
At least you're half right.
"Our country has always been divided fairly equally and we're still standing."
Lincoln disagreed with you, and Atlanta burned to the ground. A lot of rednecks today carry the flag that lost NOT because of their opinion on slavery, but because they'll never forget how seriously you are mistaken, sir.
The universe may explode if Lance Henriksen was with them.
Only liberal voters…which proves my point.
For every Kool-aid drinking leftist, there is a Kool-aid drinking Conservative. You better believe it.
(Eyes widen and mouth gapes)
Du-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-ude…
The civil war was inevitable. Had the southern states conceded in 1787 that slavery should be abolished, as Europe had already done, there would never have been the need for a seccession or a war. Secondly, our country IS still standing, the confederacy is not. Our nation is the United States of America, and Atlanta was burned to the ground because they forgot that.
a socialist commune = a draconian police state
wow, and here I thought we tasted like chicken.
Yes, you could make an argument that the party courting the man-walking-with-dinosaurs idiots are the smarty-pantses.
Liberty & Tyranny may have been started during the Bush Years, but was certainly finished after Obama's Inauguration. His administration is mentioned in it several times. I would highly recommend reading it. However, Mr. Levin didn't even need have to know Obama to know what his agenda would be.
While it is frightening enough that Obama is President, it is even more frightening for me is how quickly and easily he became President. It shows how easily the Anti-Christ can take over, how easily people will give up their Liberty for the promise of a little comfort and not mind the "Soft Tyranny" even if it only seems there might be something in it for them.
Projection is one of the keys… Exactly!!!!!!!!!!! That is a great point about liberalism that is rarely mentioned.
There's a story about a man who's lost on an old contry road and he comes upon an old farmhouse with an old farmer sitting on his porch with his old hounddog next to him. The man stops to ask directions and every time the man asks a question, before the farmer answers, the dog lets out a little moan. Finally the man asks the farmer, "What's wrong with your dog?" The farmer says, "Nothin'. He's just layin' on a nail." The man says, "Well, why doesn't he get up and move?" The farmer replies, "It don't hurt THAT bad."
Sorry for the lengthy post.
El Libertador, you said the "Baby boomer generation: Worst American Generation ever"
That is the truth brother. As a whole, the baby boomers are just a bunch of spoiled children who act like brats. They've always expected everything to be handed to them without much sacrifice. They believe in entitlements, as long as they are the benefactors. Just a bunch of whining crybabies who's parents did all of the hard work, so they wouldn't have to. And they don't even appreciate it.
First they were flower children, with lots of free love(sex) and drug use. And now they hold in dismay a society that they feel is morally corrupt, when they themselves are the sparks that ignited the fire. They are the ruiners of this country. Their selfishness has ruined everything that their fathers and mothers built up. The most selfish generation is now running our country and we wonder why the country is going down the drain. God bless America? How about God, please save us from the worst American generation.
Nothing new comes out of Hollywood, it been 25 years since the Original V , I reckon they figure a whole new generation has come along they can lie to.
What got me was, in the last 25 years not one single movie came out of Hollywood that showed our Soldiers in a good light.
"V" isn't deliberately attacking Obama. "V" is simply dramatizing what a fascist takeover of America would look like. The fact that it completely mirrors what the Obama administration is doing isn't the fault of the writer's and producers.
I really think liberals don't get it. The same tactics if used by a conservative would be loudly and angrily condemned. In their world view, conservatism is horrible, stupid, and wrong no matter how much facts and common sense might support it. Liberalism is right no matter how silly and senseless. If a a liberal commits an atrocity, there was no atrocity because only conservatives can commit atrocities.
Nazis!!!! There we go; Godwin's Law hard at work.
Did you see that incomprehensible mess known as District 9?
I'd rather have the Trek prosthetic noses…
The ratings say otherwise…
Whoa, dude!
Your bong is over there, relax…
I hated BSG. The military guys got all intense, and you could tell they were intense because their voices were all low and mumbly. Then you had the amoral scientist. A few babes, so called. SG-U is the same formula, same kind of lousy acting, military guys that I don't think anyone would follow into battle, and low rent starlets.
You may hate the "Kool-Aid" trope. But obviously you identify the true meaning very well and seem to be very thirsty for more. Also the catch phrase seems to raise your hackneyed hackles. LOL! Conservatives are just learning from your teaching experience, leftie.
Right-conservatives and Republicans, in general, just want the freedom to be able to do their own thing. The whole "draconian police state" thing would need to be shifted down under the lib/Dem column so's the Brownshirt Brigades could help enforce the dreamy commune ideal.
"V:The Final Battle" was on in 1984, while I was 13. When Marc (F'N) Singer and Michael (F'N) Ironside had their fight, there was so much testosterone in that scene, I grew hair on my chest that night.
V? Fiction.
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You are magicially able to tell us what Peters was thinking — and then claim projection is a key to the LIberal thought process?
It's a pity no one here has ever been introduced to the notion of irony…
Ah, the standard right wing argument: A right–winger says something breathtakingly stupid. (Sarah Palin should be president! Obama is building concentration camps!) Someone points out that this is a stupid thing to say. Right-wingers response: A-ha! They're terrified of me telling the truth, that's why they call me stupid!
And this response only two down from the one claiming that conservatives always handle things with more class. You guys are a riot!
I though bush was building concentration camps
I doubt the "Judge" is a right winger but I don't think his comment was stupid.
Explain the concern about the show.
…He says after eight years of virulent BDS.
There's a best seller there for someone who wants to analyze the gulf between their Orwellian naming protocol and the end results.
I heard we taste like bacon…Long pig and all that.
Ratings took a drop in week 2…we'll see how next week goes.
Funny how the wolf in sheep's clothing was actually the Fabian Society's crest until it became too obvious and they changed their symbol to a turtle lashing out; slow and sure.
The lizard people in V with their sexy cloned flesh bring to mind the plastic surgery and copious makeup used to pretty up our leathery skinned Hollywood stars.
Both parties are to blame for the war on drugs. Prohibition is extremely profitable for the government at all levels, whether it's federal, state, or local–that's why it's been going on for generations without solving anything.
It empowers the state, and politicians love an empowered state as long as their particular party is in charge of running the show.
Michael Ironside's character was awesome!
I think you're mistaking universal human values for "conservative values", and making "conservative" meaningless in the process. If every movie that celebrates individual heroes is conservative, every movie that has a team working together to achieve a common goal is liberal–a ridiculous proposition.
Exactly!
I guess you don't know what projection really means, then?
Ohhh, what was that saying? … uhhhhmmmm … Oh yeah!
Life imitates Art?
Or Art imitates Life?
I forget.
As an actor, we're trained to understand the subtext, and portray that. All the viewable actions of a person are subconsiously designed to hide what we, as people, are really thinking or feeling. It is much more interesting to see the struggle of the young boy trying to appear brave while searching for words to impress his love interest than being the player and sweeping her off her feet. The subtext is that this kid is really nervous about this interpersonal connection. Note also that that is the TRUTH of the situation. Now, apply that to anything you watch, even the news. Remember Nancy Pelosi's subtext as Harry Reid tried to embrace her at the podium?
So it, really then, comes down to the logical argument that both sides can put forward.
You first.
Sadly good Sci Fi on TV ended when our own Adam Balwin and fellow crewmembers of the Serenity were grounded by Fox.
Sweat, and marriages that last as long as the next gig with someone new bed.
Every great story is but a shadow of The Greatest Story Ever Told.
We all instinctively know we need a savior — someone who will stand in the gap against all odds on our behalf — and that there is a very powerful evil that is trying to kill that savior.
The problem arises when man becomes the savior.
"I despise it because it’s bad storytelling."
Mr. Scott, you just said a brainful. Storytelling is what I was weaned on. It is what compels me to write. Awards, script sales and juicy points and residuals are just side bennies of telling great stories on film. I may be a political maniac in my opeds here at BH, but I keep politics a twenty-meter cattle prod's length from my work. Bathrooms and kitchens are separate for a reason.
"So, is that it? Case closed? Is “V” not an indictment and slam at the “O-mania” that swept the nation? Far from it. In fact, the show contains two powerful messages that should warm the hearts of all conservatives and make leftists think twice."
This is what's known in literary criticism as "The Intentional Fallacy", meaning, that what the author did not intend must not be the case.
But the work ends up standing for itself, and I felt Obama's reptilian echo hissing in every line.
The only ones saying anything breathtakingly stupid here are you and your ilk. Kindly shut up already before you hurt yourselves.
Who voted this down? He's not agreeing with the claim that we conservatives want a draconian police state! That's what the liberals use to keep anyone from opposing them.
I've yet so see any actor on V even with a ton of CGI help match Anita Dunn's ability to lick her eyeballs!
All memorable TV shows, movies, etc. invariably are morality plays — The Wizard of Oz, Star Wars, The Matrix, Star Trek, The Twilight Zone and even Leave It To Beaver among many others. Like it or not, well-executed morality plays stand a much better chance of making for great, even ground-breaking content. Hollywood and the TV networks would do well to remember this in light of their current ratings woes.
Movies and TV shows with great special effects, but no "moral to the story" can have wonderful ground-breaking special effects, but are eminently forgettable. The movie "Twister" comes to mind as a poster child for the mindlessly empty modern movie, devoid of meaningful content. "Twister" had wonderful special effects, but alas no moral to the story, thus quickly relegated to the celluloid rubbish heap.
Well as a matter of fact TruckerTom, Twister is in the top ten cow flinging flicks of all time – right after Monty Python and the Holy Grail!
Yea, so
Um, you win
You're all missing the biggest problem with V: What happened to all the big 80's hair from the original series?
Actually I saw the commercial for it the first time, turned to my husband and said "wow, that sounds just like the Obama administration" "We are of peace always, we will provide all you needs, healthcare and world peace…and no one stops to ask at what cost. Is it the at the cost of our individual freedoms and liberties? Of 60% of our hard earned dollars? Or in this case are they going to just ask for some humans they can breed and then suck out their brains? I never even had to see the show to know the plot line was Obamariffic. In our country only a few people seem to be standing up and saying, those are nice goals you have Mr. Obama, but what is the cost in money,in liberty and in growing our massive government.
sometimes the only way to ignore it is to leave the movie, like that old one where someone was fighting the tabacco companies in court, there was no way to watch that without continually getting liberal spin spun, not just in front of your face, but down your darned throat. Some movies they either think we're such dumb masses that we can't get their point unless they shove in one orifice and out another. Hollywood thinks we are stupid and thinks we look to movies from moral guidance, but need to have it clearly told to us many times what that guidance is during the movie, lest we miss it.
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We have not had unrestrained capitalism in the US for about 100 years. Therefore, we have no basis to judge it. But we have had many examples of socialism recently, and all of them are failures. Poor capitalists live better than middle class socialists. Reality intrudes on your socialist fantasy. Capitism is the only system that uses human nature to get freedom for all. All other systems take away freedom for the equality of misery.
its just like all the crap that the dems are pulling like locking repubs out of meetings, ignoring all repubs and lying about the facts
the LIBERAL HYPOCRITES are pulling the crap that they whined about 2 years ago and are proud of it
and its a big part of the reason conservatives do not support the repub party – they have let it happen without a fight
its time to fight the liberals in the same way dirty way they use – time for someone to save America from its No1 enemy – American liberals
I bet the obamanuts writing this series will find a way to make obama come off looking like a hero
like killing off the prez by the bad guys and having a new affirmative action type good guy to lead the people out of the morass
I think that there is no doubt that there will be a way for the obozo sycophants to make the V series a statement of good for obozo
This is going to be the most hilariously poor thing I'll read all week. I love how you throw out some other sci-fi movies to try prove your point, but end up looking like Cartman "just asking questions". Do Stormtroopers get free healthcare? Awesome! Using your logic, Luke Skywalker was a terrorist.
"the reason there are so few “conservative” films out there is because most films are inherently conservative"
Maybe it's because you can't hold a train of thought for more than two minutes before twisting it around to suit your narrow mind. Besides, there are already two projectors in a theater, we don't need a third.
I can't wait for the Obamao official uniforms, and the movie documentary of his life story from his days as a slave
all the way to the presidency.
its a fucking tv show. who cares what the creators personal politics are. get the fuck outta here.
So let me get this straight: as the internet industry has risen in the last 15 years-give or take, it is a symbolic evil of the Leftist, socialist driven administration and Congress' intent to enslave us all? Are you serious? The internet is a highly effective means of communication that Democrats and Independents alike were able to adapt with during the Bush years- a time when Republicans enjoyed an unprecendented amount of power and talking points. And as a 20 year old member of our nations youth, I remember in detail my college class on American government, which took the time to point out that the people most likely to vote are of the older generation, and furthermore, according to exit polls and statistics, the "youth" Obama relied on so much barely had an increase in their previous voting records.
Free Universal Health care is impossible, but so is social security and programs like Medicaird/Care, and while we're at it, the War on Terror. When you consider the amount of money that's been spent towards some sort of religious driven warfare, one may begin to believe that maybe a government that suspends its useage of religion in policy may be the best. For example. World War two-Adolf Hitler and his thugs exploited centuries old distrust of the Jewish people(and their religion) in a bid to achieve power. How did this affect America? The Marshall Plan alone sent over 40 billion to Europe. Take the Japanese-They were basically a theocracy with a religious head(The emperor) at the helm of their Empire. How much money was lost at Pearl Harbor alone? 7 of our greatest warships of the time were sunk at Pearl.
Lets fast forward to the present state of things. We had a Republican administration that completely misidentified the solution to the Middle Eastern problem. We invaded a country(Iraq) we had no business invading- a lazy people who even now have no problem with Iran controlling their country, the rampant corruption from foreign and domestic individuals. We supported Sunni states like Saudi Arabia that are completely corrupt and are on the verge of collapse: look at sunni Pakistan. Then compare it to Iran: a highly trained and disciplined regime lead by a seemingly fanatic religious head, but all things considered, the Ayatollah has been pragmatic and patient in his exploitation of the mistakes of the West. The countless billions we've lost in the mideast because of religion and the countless billions our country spent in World War 2 all point to the faults of religion. I didn't even mention North Korea, which treats Kim and his father like Gods.
Our current administration properly understands that a country like the United States cannot fix the Mideast because of the nature of our government: we cannot morally do what is necessary to controll the Islamic masses. Iran can. It takes a willingness to torture, destroy, poison, anything necessary. We cannot do this. Yet its blasphemy to say these things? To admit American imperialism can only go so far?
We aren't even the Imperialist nation we once were, we've become a nation of consumers, addicted to credit lines and robust lifestyles. Yet it's somehow in our leaderships best interest to give us European healthcare as an excuse to turn us into a totalitarian regime
To what ends would that take us? What's the end game? We are horribly in debt(though our country has always been in debt), the rest of the world could bring us to our knees economically and militarily-though they may go down with us. As a member of our military I can understand this- Rumsfields idiotic shrinkage of our military has brought horrendous consequences to bear for our military. By the way, the European Unions socialist healthcare hasn't exactly turned them into arbiters of evil either. In fact, the European Union doesn't do much of anything these days, yet somehow Germany has lower unemployment and the Euro is worth more. Surely we shouldn't replicate and improve programs that work or may fail. It's not like our Country wasn't built on an innovative idea that challenged the status quo or anything.
You have a bizarre, caricatured, and I would even go so far as to say Marxist idea of what "unrestrained capitalism" consists of. Instead of the word "capitalism", try replacing it with what it means in practical reality – guaranteed individual rights, also known as freedom. When you protect individual freedom, you encourage the worst excesses of human nature? When you hold individual rights to be inviolable, that's miserable for the country?
You see, it's much easier to understand what you're saying when you begin to reduce your ideas back to the real world they're supposed to describe.
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please feel free to take your own advice as stupid as it is
This V plays up the part of the original miniseries that was only giving a passing mention. The promise to give us high technology and fix our problems. The Visitors then restorted to a straight out military occupation. These Visitors seem a little more savvy, why use force if you can willing get them to put the chains on themselves? I think it is ironic that the show was written before Obama came into office but because his election and time in the White House so prefectly mirror the Visitors that it's driving the liberals nuts
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My point: They spend 99% of their time disguised as humans. They look like us, they act like us, they talk like us – how is that interesting to watch? Unless you like soap operas. Yes, the rationale is that they try to put us at their ease and curry out devotion. So? I'm still watching a bunch of *people* interacting on screen – not people and *aliens*. Cheap shortcut. It was old when Invasion of the Body Snatchers did it, old when The Invaders did it, old when the original V did it. Off the top of my head, I can only name The Thing, They Live, and BSG as shows that did anything unique or interesting with this gimmick. V certainly does not.
First: I am a biological scientist and nuclear engineer, not a writer or a professional editor.
Second: I am an athiest
Third: I am smarter than you. I make several philosophical points and you chose to point out poor spelling rather than counter my points.
Fourth: I don't see a spell checker tied to this reply window. Do you actually take time to write your posts in a word processor, spell check it, then cut and paste it here? LMFAO
Godwin's Law ONLY discusses the probability of Hitler or Nazis being brought up as a thread lengthens. It does NOT address the appropriatemess of the analogy. Are you trying to say the Nazis DIDN'T sneak into power in Germany by telling people they were something they were not? Are you saying that Obama is the moderate he ran as instead of the uber liberal he is acting like? No? Yes?
Maybe my real gripe is that we already KNOW the Visitors are very naughty aliens. Unless the writers have re-imagined the whole "V" universe, the Visitors are disguised as humans but they're really icky under the skin and have it in for humanity. Just like the original series. The "alien in disguise" gimmick works best when a) you don't know who's an alien and who's a human (e.g., The Thing) or b) the story is about an alien dealing with living a human life in a human body (e.g., Starman). "V" could be improved by having a) Visitors replacing humans in key positions without our knowing it or b) giving a Visitor a strong motivation (e.g., love) to go against the V's and try to blend in with humanity – living a lie about his or her true identity. Apart from that, I think it might end up being a gratuitous sorta-nostalgia trip.
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