Forever ‘Hanoi Jane’
by Kurt SchlichterIn 1987, my friend Pete and I – editors on our college’s conservative paper – got the chance to interview Vice Admiral James Stockdale. You might remember him as Ross Perot’s running mate, the man who asked in one debate, only half in jest, “Who am I? Why am I here?”
But Admiral Stockdale was not the befuddled clown some hack comics tried to make him out to be. A brilliant classics scholar, he was also a warrior’s warrior. His evil North Vietnamese captors tortured him unmercifully – not calling him mean names, not dunking him in water as trained medics watched, but real, savage torture that left his body broken. But it did not break his American spirit; when the communists decided they wanted to film him for propaganda he calmly took a wooden stool and bashed his own face in so they couldn’t use him. We saw his Medal of Honor sitting in his study surrounded by books.
Pete and I both later joined the Army, and we both served multiple deployments. I don’t know how it affected Pete, but during Desert Storm I took one round out of one of my M16 magazines and kept it in my top BDU pocket. I’m no Admiral Stockdale, and I figured if I went through my other 209 rounds I needed some insurance that I wouldn’t be getting captured alive.
Which brings us to the subject of someone who resides at the opposite end of the character scale from Admiral Stockdale.
Hanoi Jane – I will not refer to her otherwise – is apparently attempting another one of her periodic reinventions as part of her continuing quest to remain in the cultural spotlight she craves. She recently appeared on Larry King to whine about how “right wingers” labeled her “Hanoi Jane” and created a “myth” about her visit to Vietnam in 1972. She was kind of unclear about exactly what “myth” she is referring to. Her country was at war with North Vietnam when she went there. And, while Admiral Stockdale’s bones were being torn from their sockets, Hanoi Jane flitted like a butterfly between her murderous hosts, posing for photos on anti-aircraft guns and slandering her countrymen as “war criminals” in nearly a dozen radio broadcasts. Then she came home and called the people exposing the sick cruelty of her red pals “liars.”
The only “myth” about this piece of human garbage is that Hanoi Jane is something other than a traitor who deserves nothing more than our contempt.
I think either Pete or I asked the Admiral back then what he thought of Hanoi Jane. I don’t remember his response exactly, but I don’t think he ever gave her much thought at all. And if he ever did waste a few precious moments considering her, I think he would be puzzled. It’s hard for someone with so much character to understand someone with so little.
In this way, Admiral Stockdale can teach us one more lesson. The worst fate we can impose upon Hanoi Jane is to affix her nickname to her forever and then consign her to a richly deserved mental oblivion. Let’s purge her from our collective consciousness, perhaps pausing only to spit in contempt should the thought of her by chance cross our minds. And then let’s fill the cultural space Hanoi Jane no longer occupies with those worthy of our respect and our attention.
And maybe it’s appropriate that we start by replacing her there with a true American hero like Admiral James Stockdale.
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You knocked it out of the ball park.
I remember reading excerpts from Courage Under Fire: Testing Epictetus's Doctrines in a Laboratory of Human Behavior
That Jane Fonda is wealthy and lauded and Adm. Stockdale was ridiculed and forced into obscurity is further evidence that there is no justice in this world.
Even the ninth circle of hell would be too good a fate for this hag.
good for you, Kurt…
What she did was thoughtless- for her- and an unspeakable evil to our fighting men. A very close friend who served in 'Nam with the 101st at the time told of the despair- the absolute kick in the teeth up yours go to hell-
sick in the pit of your stomach feeling it gave them when they first saw the pic in Stars and Stripes.
Aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war.
And now it's the silly 'right wingers' who are making something out of nothing and need to get a life. Karma,
Hanoi Jane- karma. The young boys you depressed who might not have made it back in one piece because of your selfish, thoughtless act of treachery-
Their souls are on you. And you WILL be held accountable by a much Higher Authority…
First any person awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor is ALWAYS "The MAN" especially when they age and time begins to take a toll on them.
Stockdale was truly an amazing and strong heroic man.
Hanoi (rhyms with annoy) Jane is a traitorous B!TCH and should have been shot at the time. These photo's are MUCH LESS mythical than her supposed talent!
She has been all downhill since "Barbarella"…
Wow, magnificent article.
Didn't Fonda apologize for her vile behavior when she was pushing her autobiography a few years ago? Now, she's changing her tune yet again and blaming those dastardly right wingers. What a piece of work she is.
Hanoi Jane in a 1970 address at Michigan State University:
"I would think that if you understood what Communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees, that we would someday become communists."
Hanoi Jane was also a big supporter of the Black Panthers.
Sounds like Hanoi Jane has the same ideology as Obamao.
Has there ever been a more appropriate and accurate moniker than "Hanoi Jane?" I think not. Jane is the one that should get over it. No one that has served in the US Military is going to forget, and few will forgive you for allowing those photos to be taken, so accept it Jane, you really have no chose. It ain't going away.
The peace lovers have to own what happened in Cambodia as a result of us abandoning the region.
(the Communists took over and killed a bunch of people)
Keep telling the truth!
I remember when she was "aerobic Jane" and was reaping big-bucks selling her videos. A friend and I were in CostCo and there were Hanoi Jane's videos pile high. I picked one up and said, "Ah, Jane Fonda's Commie Workout" and got quite a few chuckles from those nearby.
She might be able to lie to herself, but others no the truth.
Jane, as a Christian, you must know that repentance is good for the soul.
A while back, Bill O'Reilly was mentioning something about her getting into some kind of exercise/health business thing. That's probably why she wants to revamp her image. For someone espousing socialism/communism (her words), she sure brings in the big bucks with her businesses, and I don't see her redistributing HER wealth.
We remember what she did, and continued to do when she came back from N.V. We remember how the POWs were tortured and killed because of her. We remember how horribly our troops were treated when they came back stateside — because of her. We remember how she called them liars, and went on all the talk shows with her propaganda. I could go on and on and on about all the things she did and said. No, you miserable waste of skin, we will never forget, and it will torment you for the rest of your life and beyond. And if any of the hollywood airheads (J. Lopez, etc.) decide to put you in another movie, I hope the audience boos you off the screen.
pretty sure that's a huge negative. I do believe, however, a veteran spat on her at one of her book signings.
I think the rumor she's referring to is the one where she visits some POWs, and they try to give her a note to sneak out, asking for help, and in front of them, she hands it right over to the guards so the prisoners are beaten half to death. As far as anybody knows, that's false, but it certainly doesn't excuse her actual behavior, which was nearly as bad. She's as much a traitor as Benedict Arnold, and she's never done more than offer a qualified, half-hearted apology for her actions. She deserves the contempt she's gotten all these years.
What do you think about about the "Christmas Truce" of 1914? You see, these wars are fought BY the people but FOR the elite bankers. If more people understood this and didn't get hoodwinked in to killing and being killed for profits of others the world would be a lot better place.
What was it the papers said after the Lincoln conspirators were hanged? "We wish to remember you no more"? Go away Hanoi Jane, we wish to remember you no more.
STILL a spoiled dilletante…….just older and goofier.
Well….. she spat on him first didn't she?
She should be tried and executed.
I just thought it was incredibly revolting of Fonda to issue an apology in order to boost sales of her book. Can't say I'm too surprised, however.
People that suck in their stomachs when they stand on a scale do so in order to see the scale. I speak from experience!
That said, Fonda is a lowlife. Even if she weren't sincerely a communist at heart, I'd still loathe her for trying to be hip by joining the anti-war crowd and kissing up to our enemies.
I can't even bring myself to comment on his.
Someone has to post it:
“Now I know (Stockdale’s name has) become a buzzword in this culture for doddering old man, but let’s look at the record, folks. The guy was the first guy in and the last guy out of Vietnam, a war that many Americans, including our present President, did not want to dirty their hands with.
The reason he had to turn his hearing aid on at that debate is because those f***ing animals knocked his eardrums out when he wouldn’t spill his guts. He teaches philosophy at Stanford University, he’s a brilliant, sensitive, courageous man. And yet he committed the one unpardonable sin in our culture: he was bad on television."
–Dennis Miller
And no, I wouldn't piss on Jane Fonda if she was on fire. My father was one of the guys those AA guns were shooting at.
Thank you, Kurt, for your service to our country.
Jane wouldn't last 3 seconds if she was being held/tortured by the Viet Cong.
I had no idea about Admiral Stockdale's incredible service. Thank you for clueing us all in.
No doubt a cockroach is more worthy of consideration than Hanoi Jane. My question is: Is Larry King an animated corpse? (Or to use the Obama spelling Corps) Did he ask for any kind of explanation?
Poor, poor, Jane.
Bless her little ol' commie heart.
I would wonder what John McCain thinks of her?
"Treason" is a non sequitur in a philosophy that objects to the concept of "nations."
Thank you for clearing up the record for Admiral Stockdale! It sickens me that the left made him into a comical figure while worshiping Hanoi Jane. No one should let her off the hook!
The classic definition of Anti-Social Personality Disorder: a personality disorder characterized by an abnormal lack of empathy combined with strongly amoral conduct, masked by an ability to appear outwardly normal. Such people are most often referred to as sociopaths and/or psychopaths. I submit that Hanoi Jane is a textbook example.
There is no way this vile woman had no knowledge of the atrocities her little friends were committing against our countrymen, and as a result of her personality disorder, was as capable of self-denial of the horrendous sufferring of our men as you and I are of ignoring persistent and aggressive panhandlers.
People such as Hanoi Jane Fonda, as well as many on the far left, live for themselves to the exclusion of all others. The sociopathic lothario will seek out vulnerable women, rob them blind one moment, then are just as skilled at spending evenings at home with their victims, completely lacking in anything resembling guilt.
[...] Read it. [...]
In 1979 or 1980, Hanoi Jane and her commie hubby Tom Hayden visited the University of Iowa in order to tout biofuels. Because the event was free, I attended just for the sake of seeing them (give me a break – I was 19 or 20). The room was packed, but I got a seat maybe 30 feet from the stage.
The duo entered. The room erupted into a thunderous, prolonged standing ovation. I remained seated, arms folded across my chest. As far as I can tell, I was the only person in the audience who remained seated and who was not clapping and cheering like a maniac.
I saw Jane smiling and waving, basking in the adoration.
She saw me.
She looked RIGHT AT ME. She saw me seated, arms folded, face neutral.
The grin on her face vanished. She stopped waving – for just a second. We stared at each other – for just a second. She was shocked. Then she remembered to stay in character, turned away, and resumed smiling and waving at the crowd.
Wiped. Grin. Off. Her. Face. If I live to be 100, I will never forget that moment.
"And no, I wouldn't piss on Jane Fonda if she was on fire."
Goes double for me.
Tell your Dad I said "Thanks for his service" he deserved a better reception at home than he got.
Treasonous skank.
Hanoi Jane's, as well as the far left's, inability to empathize enables them to justify the cruelest and cold-blooded of choices in life.
I submit that the only difference between Hanoi Jane and the torture experts of the Hanoi Hilton is the former's sense that there would always be lesser people around to do the dirty work for her.
"And maybe it’s appropriate that we start by replacing her there with a true American hero like Admiral James Stockdale."
Appropriate?
No.
Long past overdue.
And add in the thousands of other American heroes replacing entertainment jackals who loathe the country and people that make their absurd fortunes possible.
If she committed treason (which she did) and we have proof (which we do) why isn't she swinging from a gallows?
We also must remember the her father Henry was a major tool used by FDR administration to spread the concept of Marxism to America! "Grapes of Wrath" is just one example! This is just the beginning of what is coming a Marxist takeover of America and coming deaths of perhaps millions of Americans, who do not except Marx(Lucifer) doctrine as the one coming in his own name that you will believe! Oh please, NOT Obama, but then, that's NOT politically correct, is it?
I just got back to the world from Viet Nam when Jane pulled this stunt. I remember how demoralizing it was to us all. She became our Tokyo Rose. I kept the "Hanoi Jane bulls-eye" taped to the lid of my commode for about a year, then took it down, realizing that I was wasting energy on this pathetic being. I asked forgiveness for her in the name of Jesus and it seemed to work. I got over it. I hear she is a "christian" now. She is forgiven but not excused. Never excused. Jane, you will never get a life. You wasted too much of that precious commodity in the foolishness of your youth.
How Jane Fonda can remain alive today after her willful conspiring with the enemy of the United States is a testament to the strong personal commitment of the American soldier to suffer the indignity of her whiny liberal musings without resorting to violence. Fonda could have been whacked many years in the past, but it was better to allow for public disdain and disgust of her actions than end her suffering prematurely. May she rot in hell.
Vietnam Veteran – 1963-4, 1966-67, 1969
Am I wrong in thinking that you are a college student? I think I wrote an essay using this exact same train of thought in 1992 – when I was 18. As you grow and mature and begin to experience life from multiple perspectives you will come to learn that war is RARELY about profit and neither is much else in life. Oh, profits are incentives, but peace, innovation, advancement – these are the natural yearnings of the human spirit and when they are quelled hindered unrest surely follows.
Thanks, David. Speaking of pissing (or not) on Hanoi Jane: Dad stayed in the Air Force after the war, and I remember visiting his squadron offices as a kid (this would have been sometime in the early 80s) and the urinals in the men's room had laminated copies of that infamous photo above pasted into them
I didn't get the joke at the time, but I certainly understood later.
Barbarella? I thought her career peaked with "Sunday in New York".
PRICELESS!!!
That is rich!
Lincoln said, 'It's better to be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and removing all doubt.'
Thanks for removing any doubt anyone of us would have had about your character.
To para phrase Patton 'the yellow rat should have been shot'. A beautiful sentiment!
And aside from her obvious hate of her own country and traitorous actions,
she's actually quite a mediocre actress. I've always wished it had been
Bardot and not her in "Barbarella".
I can think of no better punishment for Hanoi Jane's betrayal of our POW's than for her to sit inside a 12 x 8 foot prison cell for the next 20 years as she's taught truly unique sexual positions by her room mate, Large Marge.
When I met Stockdale, he was wearing shorts and as he sat down, he had to put his legs out in front on a treestump that we used as a table.I had shorts on as well, and an old scar from a motorcycle wreck was pretty obvious. he asked me what had happened and I asked him about his obvious wounds and stiff legs. Well, I had been stupid and got hit by a bike, he said that the North Vietnamese had repeatedly broken his legs and he tried his best to set the bones afterwards. He hadn't been able to really bend his knees since that time. He was smiling as he told the story. He was the bravest guy I had ever met. Mostly though he just commented on how great it was to be sitting among the trees, with friends, and in my case, that my dad was next to me. He thought that was the best of all. Self-effacing, humble, and engaging. What a guy ! Jane who ???
My father is a Vietnam vet and as far back as I can remember, he could not stand this woman. I clearly see why. Why do these idiots think they "represent" us as a whole?!
And Larry King is an F'in piece of crap for not calling her on it. What a bought whore.
One of the best pieces on Jane I have ever read. A traitor and a liar. This is what Hollywood is today, Traitors and Liars and servants of a Socialist Regime. Demi Moore and Aston Kutcher too will be whining in a few years about how we 'mis-portrayed' them. I hope everyone keeps a copy of that commercial they made about 'serving the president'. Traitors disgust me. I will not watch their movies, it's not unrealistic to ban liberal movies from our 'must see' lists. If it doesn't have at least one right leaner, I won't see it I won't rent it either, I'd rather be mountain biking anyway
Yeah, she should have been executed for treason 40 years ago!
Me either, Deus, as far as I've ever been concerned, she IS Hanoi Jane….I've never watched, gone to, or credited anything she's ever done since. She IS doing the "usual" Dimocrat thing though…blaming everybody who holds her feet to the fire. The Dims do it every time, "it's not me, it's the people who don't like me", and then never addressing exactly WHAT IT IS that the people "don't like" about her(the Dims).
'Cause this country can no longer tell the difference between "giving aid and comfort to an enemy during wartime" and "free speech."
I had the privilege of meeting VADM Stockdale when I was a Midshipman at the Naval Academy in the mid-1980s. He and his fellow POWs, CAPT Dick Stratton, Sen. Jeremiah Denton, and Sen. McCain were all heroes to us. CAPT Stratton had given a lecture on leadership and integrity where he referred to Jane as "Miss Piggy Jane Fonda". No film or show of her will ever be seen in my house. She willfully provided aid and comfort to the enemy in wartime and should be hanged for treason.
Let me see how these two events are similar…
OK, I tried, but couldn't think of a single similarity. Instead, how about we try this: Suppose that, in 1914, a famous British entertainer had travelled to Germany, made some wireless broadcasts for the Kaiser, had her photo taken pretending to fire high explosive shells at the British troops with a gigantic idiotic grin, then returned to London.
She would have been put against a wall and shot.
There, I fixed your historical allusion at no extra cost!
Excellent article. I made it back from my tours in Vietnam and unfortunately so did Hanoi Jane . . . excuse me while I spit.
As I recall it was a non-apology apology… the kind that says "I'm sorry if you were offended". That sort of bullshit.
Priceless.
Id like to comment and say what I think of Hanoi Jane the Traitorous B!%#H…but then I know I will get banned.
*must keep decorum…must keep decorum…*
Aw, hell…she'd have provided a better service if she had just merely showed up to "service" those communist bastards. The distraction may have done wonders…but noooooooooooo….
These days she would a typical celebrity, who really is in need of a reality check.
She has no clue that these thugs and dictators used her celebrity as well. As most of these morons who like to act like they have a clue. I wonder how many of these fools ever heard of Lindbergh's fun with Hitler.
We really have our priorities out of whack when Admiral Stockdale is either never of, or a laughing stock.
And Hanoi-Jane is the one who deserves to be spat on.
She can always leave and practice her philosophy elsewhere. Only problem is she would be tolerated NO WHERE ELSE. Even in most West Europe nations, anyone doing what she did would have been deported or unabtrusively entered the road fatality statistics.
If we must allow your thread-jacking…
Surely it is good and decent that those men took pause in the remembrance of the birth of Jesus. The fault of The Great War comes in no small part that the modern world advanced beyond the standards of international relations and wars of the time.
Now back to the issue at hand… Hanoi Jane Fonda's misguided and naive (at best) and treasonous (at worst) actions with the communists during a time of war. Any chance we could return to that?
Who reads lots of Gertrude Stein.
I forgot about Miller's rant… back then I started to sit up and take notice of his material, and of the small anti-left sentiment that was starting to gain more ground.
1st: The response can in no way be linked to Mr. Schlichter's post. I know you like to go off on tangents but at least try to find something remotely related to Vietnam and Hanoi Jane Fonda.
2nd: World War I destroyed far more fortunes than it made. It wrecked the global economy for several years, and set back an unprecedented pre-1914 level of prosperous economic globalization that took over fifty years to reach again.
How so many people could be taken in by them really galls me. I guess it's the academic brainwashing.
That's what makes her evil – she DID have a clue…and she didnt care.
Thank you, sir.
I wonder what her father Henry thought of her jaunting off to Hanoi? Henry Fonda was a liberal, but he was also a patriot, a best friend to Jimmy Stewart.
LOVE IT, GoesTo11….LMBO!!. Even being a "girl", I'd have tried to "hit" that picture. People like her, Sean Penn, Danny Glover, are just being "the usual" in Hollowwood. It's one of the reasons that I very, very, very, seldom watch movies…I'd rather read.
Although, there are good people out there. Gary Sinise comes to mind….he provides school supplies for our troops to give to Iraqi and Afghani children, and has been over to entertain the troops many times. His show "CSI: NY" I do watch. We need to put our money, attention, interest, where our mouth are….don't like their "politics", don't go to their movies/concerts/whatever. There are enough moonbats out there, and I refuse to join them in any way, shape or or form. It IS that simple.
That is cruel and inhumane… to Large Marge.
My dad was a bird dog pilot and got shot at by those same AA guns. He absolutely hated Hanoi Jane, and I think it's a crime that he's no longer here and she is….
You got THAT right, Harry.
I read her reaction to all this renewed interest is, "get a life." I think she should be reminded that all these people and many, many more don't have that option.
Oy vey. Doesn't actual research and substance matter anymore?
The only substance of this piece, and the only interesting thing in it, is Admiral Stockdale's story. Since the story was ostensibly about your interview with the Admiral, I figured it was building towards his thoughts on Fonda.
Well I got to the second last paragraph, and I find: "I don’t remember his response exactly, but I don’t think he ever gave her much thought at all".
Now waitaminute here. YOU CONDUCTED THE INTERVIEW. Seriously, is this a joke? You rant and rave about Fonda the whole article, and praise Stockdale, and then you can't remember what he thought about her? Just check your old interview! You won't check the interview you yourself conducted with the Admiral but you do feel free to imagine what his own personal thoughts on Fonda were? If the interview is irretrievably lost, do some research to see if Stockdale ever commented on Fonda.
Guess what? I just did some research and it took less than five minutes! I searched google books for Admiral Stockdale as an author, and found a single, passing reference to Jane Fonda. He describes a return visit to Vietnam on an academic trip, visiting an old prison which he refers to thusly: "it was where the Vietnamese would take Jane Fonda to see the very few prisoners who would 1) be civil and 2) converse with her." That is still not enough evidence to deduce his personal views about her and her trip to Vietnam, but at least gives us something he actually said.
Was that interview with Stockdale ever published?
Note – my reference to 'rant and rave' in the 3rd paragraph should refer only to ranting. No raving. I was thinking of an old Stray Cats album.
Also note that the quote on Fonda comes from Stockdales "Thoughts of a philosophical fighter pilot ", page 112, available for reading online through Google Books.
Ah, pen44, a person doing the same thing I've been doing for some time now.
You're welcome. I also got to put a hard question to Tom Hayden. He was telling the audience about the amazing success of the Brazilian biofuels program. I knew that they were paying Indians about two cents an hour to do all the labor. I asked him if he was considering the huge labor costs that would apply to the US. He did not have a good answer – he basically mocked me, ducked the question, and people laughed. He got the better of me, but it was ONLY because I was about 19.
AMEN Sister!
My entertainment dollars are no longer segregated from my values.
Hank,
I'm sorry for your loss. I'd like to thank you and your Father for his serivce and sacrifice.
hollylamb…I've been doing just that for years now. As far as Hollowwood is concerned there is nothing new under the sun. And it is very easy to do. Just look at movies, plays and TV programs as books-without-pages-to-turn….how long would you sit and read a book that was against everything you believe in. Not long, I suspect. Just ask yourself, "Is this a book that I would take prescious time out of my life to read…or NOT?" See… real easy…
My family member was in the 101st Airborne, and near the Vietnamese DMZ at the time Hanoi Jane was betraying her country.
He said if he could have gotten a clear shot at her, he would have "taken her out." He has "no use for traitors."
He has never spent a dime enriching her either, and, for many years, would get almost nauseous just unavoidably seeing a photo of her
To Hanoi Jane: You made your decision. You betrayed your country. Now, you don't get "Do Overs." Live with the results of your traitorous behavior – many, many of our veterans live with the results of it every day!
I appreciate that, thank you for the kind words. One of these days I'll post one of my dad's missions where he won one of his medals. If Hollywood wants to do a movie about real heroes, that is the story to base it on.
I will never forget and never forgive Hanoi Jane or her butt-buddy Hanoi John. Both should have been tried and convicted of treason. My preferred penalty would have been execution. The sickening Hanoi Jane re-surfaces every time she has something new to sell (having already sold her soul). The only "punishment" she's every received as far as I know was meted out by one of my heroes. Michael Smith. Where are you when we need you again Michael?
Gary Sinise is awesome. I liked him as an actor even before I knew he was a friend of servicepeople and vets. Like you, there are certain "artists" whose work I simply will not see or buy on principle, and conversely I try to support entertainers like Mr. Sinise.
I'd LOVE that I am a military history buff… Especially the REAL history and the REAL people…
Here's some one else I nominate to fulfill to replace what's her name.
Abe Zelmanowitz perished at the WTC on 9/11 because he refused to leave his friend Ed Beyea – a quadriplegic who could not be evacuated – to die alone.
A lot of people like to say they would do anything for a friend. Mr. Zelmanowitz meant it. It brings a tear to my eye every time I read hist story.
http://www.yourish.com/2006/09/11/1997
http://www.aish.com/ci/be/48881527.html
Thank you, Viper, and all you Vietnam Vets, for your service and your suffering. During that war. I spent many an evening at the USO in Waukegan, IL, dancing with the "boys", but especially, sitting and having coffee or a Cola and just talking. You guys wanted to talk so much, about so much. I'd go home and cry myself to sleep, but go right back the next weekend. NOBODY spit on you guys when I was around, believe me. I only weighed about 100 lbs, but could turn into a dynamo when needed. I quickly found that I could "overwhelm" the a-holes with $50 words–no swear words/cussing…it would stop them in their tracks…….still does because MOST of them are just sheeple who cannot think for themselves.
I real apology implies the process of redemption, and that begins with admission.
And that ain't going to happen because what she did made her feel better, so it couldn't possibly be wrong. After all, she WAS a star.
OH. MY. GOSH!
EXACTLY X 1,000,000.!!!
How about beginning with our immigration laws?
Evey body will be equal, every one will be happy, trust the government, they'll see to it.
What's not for an empty headed, narcissistic, whinny little brat to love? All of life's problems solved before noon, plenty of time for cool parties with all the hip in people out in Malibu.
Here's what the vets at the American legion back home think of Hanoi Jane. I took this picture on Memorial day last year.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/87642313@N00/3570951...
And at a public appearance in 1968, asked to name one "truly free" country, she answered…. North Korea.
May she rot in Hell. Or North Korea- same difference.
I watched about 2 seconds of her on Larry King and I do believe she did mention that she was starting some kind of new fitness venture.
I know about the Christmas Truce of 1914. But aIso know a bit about the rest of WWI too. And I don't recall any banks declaring war on each other and raising armies to make war.
I'm pretty sure it was the governments.
Snark aside, if you ask me, the majority of rulers in Europe were so stunned by their own progress during the industrial revolution, none of them were smart enough to realize it was happening in other nations too. So they were all pretty much convinced it would be a 3 month walk in the park to wipe out their neighboring countries.
And once they realized the folly of their actions it was far too late.
How about if you had to pee really, really bad?
Thank you, Viper, for your service and your opinion and your video. My old man was in the sky over Hanoi, getting shot at by those same damn AA guns. Blew the nose off his plane once, but he staggered it back to Da Nang. His friend Paul Galanti wasn't so lucky.
I believe the piece says that Stockdale probably gave Jane very little thought at all.
Did you read it?
Hey, where are the trolls? Surely they'd show up to defend that traitorous skank, wouldn't they?
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