Obama’s Remarkable 9/11 Blindspot
by John ZieglerAs a guy who has just made a film about how the news media paved the way for President Obama’s election, it won’t surprise you to hear that I have some critical things to say about his most recent appearance on “60 Minutes.” But what might shock you (because it stunned even me) was the incredibly tepid response that his most incredible remarks elicited even from the right (and no, they had nothing to do with laughter, or the economy).
Whether anyone chooses to notice or not, President Obama put himself out on the very edge of a very long and fragile limb on the issue of how to handle terror suspects at Guantanamo Bay. For a guy who is a master at not taking any real position at all (or, when he is really at his “best” taking all possible sides to an issue simultaneously) , Obama showed an absolutely unbelievable recklessness in his response to former Vice President Dick Cheney’s criticism of his closing of the prison camp.
In fact, if it turns out that we do have another 9/11 and there is even a shred of evidence that the closing of Guantanamo had anything to do with our inability to prevent it, I don’t think that Obama could have closed off any more of his plausible escape hatches if he had actually tried to do so.
Let’s go through just some of the highlights of what could end up one day serving as Obama’s political obituary (one so strong that even his many cheerleaders in the news media may have a tough time dismissing it).
Obama told Steve Kroft, “I mean, the fact of the matter is, after all these years how many convictions actually came out of Guantanamo? How many– how many terrorists have actually been brought to justice under the philosophy that is being promoted by Vice President Cheney? It hasn’t made us safer.”
Was this really the President of the United States speaking?
Since Guantanamo was opened we have a 100% record in fending off terrorist attacks in this country. Do we know that the way we have dealt with terror suspects is the reason for this success rate, or even a main cause for it? No. But would you really wager your entire Presidency (not to mention the safety of the American people) that it isn’t, especially when the only people who will benefit are likely to be dregs of humanity who have evil intent towards the United States?
Of course this is the same Obama who made a heavy bet against the surge in Iraq and was never forced by the media or the McCain campaign to pay up on that, so perhaps he is not irrational to think he could get away with such a risky and ill-conceived gambit.
Then Obama dropped this little number on the nation, “What it has been is a great advertisement for anti-American sentiment. Which means that there is constant effective recruitment of– Arab fighters and Muslim fighters against U.S. interests all around the world.”
Did Obama really just correlate being Arab and Muslim with being a terrorist? I thought that was the exact kind of politically incorrect Bush-ism that supposedly got Arabs and Muslims to hate us in the first place and which, rather ironically, Obama was decrying while making that statement. It should also be pointed out that Mr. “Citizen of the World” doesn’t seem to know or care that many who belong to Al Qaeda consider themselves Asian or African and not Arab.
But then, in typical Obama style, when confronted on what to actually do about the problem that some terror suspects who have been let go even by the draconian Bush Administration have gone right back to the battlefield, the President immediately took refuge in a position that is only possible in the utopia that is Obamaland.
Obama pontificated, “Well there is no doubt that– we have not done a particularly effective job in sorting through who are truly dangerous individuals that we’ve got to– make sure are not a threat to us, who are folks that we just swept up.”
Really? So if we were already being way too hard on these suspects (many of whom obviously just found themselves in Guantanamo by mere accident) before the Messiah got to call the shots, how exactly is it that we are going to finally do a “particularly effective job” of weeding out the truly bad guys when the holes in the filter are going to get demonstratively larger?
Obama continued, “Do these folks deserve Miranda rights? Do they deserve to be treated like a shoplifter– down the block? Of course not.”
Kroft, suddenly remembering for a moment that he is supposed to play the role of a “journalist” (a vocation now usually only seen in museums), asked the obvious question, “What do you do with those people?” Obama responded, “Well, I think we’re going to have to figure out a mechanism to make sure that they’re not released and do us harm.”
You mean like the one we already had before you took office?
In case you are one of those who just has faith that Obama simply knows what he’s doing because he’s so smart, knowledgeable and well-spoken, let me let you in on a little secret. He doesn’t even understand the basic facts of the situation.
No one noticed during the campaign, but just after he secured the nomination Obama revealed how incredibly ignorant he really is on this issue of the history leading up to 9/11 and the terror camp at Guantanamo.
I know this because I produced a film called “Blocking the Path to 9/11″ which detailed Obama’s massive factual blunder on this issue in the scene below.
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So, instead of any of this “trivia,” the only thing negative most Americans got out of Obama’s “60 Minutes” interview was about his laughter over the economy. Well, if this wasn’t so serious it certainly would be funny. Right now I guess it still is. Let’s hope Obama’s incredible luck helps keeps it that way. Before long, we may not have much more on which to rely to keep us safe.
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I made a folder on my desktop called Barackalypse. It's full of snippets of news stories, cartoons, and saved web pages like this one. I opened it it up the other day and there's just so much stuff in there that it's mind boggling, I mean I'm having a hard time keeping track of all of the BS that these people are doing. Forget slight of hand tricks, there's so many smoke screens and distractions it would take a centipede to pull these magic tricks off. I mean I think i know what the big picture is but to really define it? I guess I need to buy a journal or clear off my bulletin board and make some kind of map. Thanks for the work you do. I really appreciate it and I know that many others do as well.
These animals are out to kill us. All of Obama's wishful happytalk won't change that. Remarkably for all the leftist nonsense about the poor, swept up lil'Muhmmads who's papers just happend to eb oppoisng US armed forces and to be out of order talk, they haven't been able to produce a single Gitmo detainee who is such an innocent. in fact, almost all of them (and may be all of them) have made clear to anyone that will listen that they are part of jihad and see the USA as a great Satan.
Only a fool looks at the world and sees it the way he wishes to see it rather than how it really is. We have a fool for a president. And even the Iranian rebuff to his imbecility hasn't stopped him. Instead of hope and change, let's hope for 3 1/2 uneventful years.
My lefty friends are tying themselves up in knots over this stuff, John.
Thanks for all the work you do.
Hey Lowman — put the whole folder on a web page/blog. I'd read it for sure.
Great Article, John! It's unbelievable that this creature of mysterious origins is making these crucial decisions on behalf of all of Americans. I have to order your documentary, and I still miss listening to you on KFI! I was so unsettled by his jocular, ridiculous demeanor on the interview, I missed very important messages coming out of zero's mouth. Thank you for this great, and unsettling report.
And how, precisely, did you manage that "mental lea'" wr1? A time machine? The gift of oracle? Unique access to a parallel dimension where Gore was president? "Might have tightened up airport security?" That's an awfully big might. And considering that the WTC attacks were planned while Clinton was president, and the hijackers and their muscle made it into the U.S. under the lax screening put in place by Clinton's administration, you're building a rickety house on the sand up wild speculation, don't you think?
I honestly believe Obama wants to be KING, not president. The USA is a FREE society, and he will never be KING in a REPUBLIC (the USA is not a democracy). I believe Obama and his people are creating problems and taking advantage of existing problems to make them worse so that the USA will fail.
Obama sees a friend as anyone who will help him in his quest to gain his crown. A strong militay would fight back if someone tried to take over the USA, so he is reducing it and demoralize it. He sees them as the enemy. He also wants to start a "Civilian National Security Force" that is as strong as the military, and funded like the military. Remember when King Obama was campaigning he promised he would start one? What did Adolf Hitler call his?
Obama has shown his contempt for leaders of our friends in other free countries, and aligning himself with leaders of dictatorships. This tells me a lot about what his intentions are.
Obama knows who HIS friends are, and they aren't people in a free society. They will not VOLUNTARILY help him to become King Obama. You align yourself with those who you respect most. Obama respects getting what he wants at any cost.
I think Obama wants the USA to fail and be taken over. Obama thinks the ones who take it over will be so thankful for his help that they will make him KING. Then he can say, "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED." Now I understand why he couldn't keep from laughing during his 60 Minutes interview. He knows they are helping him become King Obama, and will be subject to HIS rule soon.
I was following up on Golani's absurd "mental leap." (Sorry for the typo in my previous message.) Amusing that mine requires access to a parallell dimension while one that fits your prejudices doesn't. And by the way, it doesn't really matter when the 9/11 attacks were planned — it was Bush's administration that failed to stop it. If the lax screening policies were so terrible, Bush had eight months to change them. And even if the hijackers were already in the country, well, they and their boxcutters weren't already on airplanes. There is no way to place that blame on Clinton or Gore or — try as you might — Obama.
This is an excellent piece, thanks for putting it out there.
What scares me most about obamas actions are that it shows; one he is clueless, but more importantly, that he truly believes he is untouchable.
And with the media falling over themselves to protect him, he may be untouchable.
wr1, so Gore would've used the mad skills he learned as VP to figure out the impending threat and take action. I'm sure he would've learned valuable lessons after Clinton's administration let terrorists from the first WTC attack (see video above) go free and plan 9/11. Oh right, and that time (and that other time) when the Sudanese asked Clinton if they could give Bin Laden to him, and he said no. Gotcha.
In all seriousness, it's possible that Gore would've reacted differently tightened security. But the major failure in the government in the run-up to 9/11 was in the mid level bureaucracy (FBI memos going unread and such), not at the highest levels. In the intelligence world, you're always picking up hints of some impending operation, and you can only judge their complete accuracy after the fact.
How about you and I, in the spirit of true bipartisanship, bash the Church/Pec commissions from the 1970's, which destroyed the operations directorate of the CIA and handcuffed most of our intelligence organs. If you want to pick a single factor in the failure that caused 9/11, that's it.
And the FBI doesn't have jurisdiction on foreign soil.
obama doesn't want to be king he wants to be premier of the united socialist states of america. He would have more power, and less oversight that way.
You've got to wean yourself off the straw man arguments, wr1 – I never said anything about Obama. I wasn't making the wild mental leaps, either – you were. We all know what happened in the real world, while your comment was based entirely on speculation about some fantasy Gore in some fictional White House. Stopping the hijackers while they were in the U.S. would have required intelligence services working at a level of efficiency and mission that they simply weren't, for reasons with roots in the Clinton presidency. That's what we'd call a fact – and a very well-acknowledged one – and not some game of "what if?"
Oct. 12, 2000 – A terrorist bomb damages the destroyer USS Cole in the port of Aden, Yemen, killing 17 sailors and injuring 39.
Aug. 7, 1998 – Terrorist bombs destroy the U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. In Nairobi, 12 Americans are among the 291 killed, and over 5,000 are wounded, including 6 Americans. In Dar es Salaam, one U.S. citizen is wounded among the 10 killed and 77 injured.
June 21, 1998 – Rocket-propelled grenades explode near the U.S. embassy in Beirut.
June 25, 1996 – A bomb aboard a fuel truck explodes outside a U.S. air force installation in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. 19 U.S. military personnel are killed in the Khubar Towers housing facility, and 515 are wounded, including 240 Americans.
cont'd
John, you do seem to stir up the trolls. Must be that your message has that extra special zing. This powergrab is so heinous, so planned, I've got to assume that there's malevolance under foot. I knew there 'd be pain, but this is a kidney stone, and I never thought it would happen so quickly.
wr1…The incompetency of Clinton is the REASON for 9/11. If he would have had the b@lls to take bin Laden from the Saudis when they offerered him to Slick Willy 9/11 might have been avoided. Those who throw stones at glass houses …….
There has been a report that Congress is going to go after your 401(k), or what's left of it. Why haven't you done anything? Don't you understand they are coming for it? Withdraw now….
Oh, but you say it's not part of law yet. And there will be financial penalties for withdrawing early which will exacerbate your losses. If the market rebounds, and your holdings are gone you have compounded your losses.
But you were warned that they are coming! Do something now!
A report stating that Al Queda was looking to strike inside the US was about as surprising as saying congress wants to spend your money. (They had already done it in 93, after all.) It was not exactly a major revelation.
What would you have had him do? Increase the threat level? Isn't that just scare tactics after all.
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Nov. 13, 1995 – A car-bomb in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia kills seven people, five of them American military and civilian advisers for National Guard training. The "Tigers of the Gulf," "Islamist Movement for Change," and "Fighting Advocates of God" claim responsibility.
February 1993 – A bomb in a van explodes in the underground parking garage in New York's World Trade Center, killing six people and wounding 1,042.
from http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1087538/...
340 killed, 6596 wounded. And this was just the Muslim terrorists, I didn't include the domestic terrorist attacks that occured under Clinton. Under Bush, we had one attack by foreign terrorists, and none by domestic terrorists. It was an extremely successful attack, but since then, there have been no more attacks. The lack of outrage when we were attacked under Clinton pisses me off.
The economy is not all Obama's fault, Bush made mistakes there as well, nut the reason Obama is catching such heat over the economy is that in the span of 2 months he's making it exponentially worse.
Not so subtle distinction, unless of course you don't read your financial statements and compare the drops under Bush to the ones under Obama. Or somehow don't shake your head when "700 billion" became the new opening minimum bid every time something "Needs to be done now!" complete with harrumphing from people who didn't even have time to read the bills.
Troll said: "Definitely agree on one thing, though — Bush was no Clinton. Under Clinton, the milennium bombers were arrested before they could blow up LA"
Oh how soon we forget, young one. Under Clinton, we ALSO saw: The World Trade Center and a large federal office building in Oklahoma City SUCCESSFULLY bombed.
And, as far as a Clinton/Gore response to foreign aggression, you might want to consult with some Albanian nationals before you shoot off you mouth about how great Clinton/Gore was. After all, having your home turned into a long-range missle practice range and, as a result, being forced to live the gypsy in Italian soccer stadiums — not the best outcome. Trust me, I was working in Europe at the time.
WR1, let's get some facts straight. Clinton was in office for the first WTC bombing…in 1993. A serious terrorist attack that could have been much worse. What did Billy do about it? Nothing.
Then, there's a nice cover-up Clinton orchestrated with Flight 800..a couple months before his re-election in '96. A spark in a fuel tank?? I know more than 1 pilot that are just flabbergasted at how easily the public bought that excuse. There's lots of witnesses that saw the missile shot from Long Island.
WR1, let's get some facts straight. Clinton was in office for the first WTC bombing…in 1993. A serious terrorist attack that could have been much worse. What did Billy do about it? Nothing.
Then, there's a nice cover-up Clinton orchestrated with Flight 800..a couple months before his re-election in '96. A spark in a fuel tank?? I know more than 1 pilot that are just flabbergasted at how easily the public bought that excuse. There's lots of witnesses that saw the missile shot from Long Island.
WR1, let's get some facts straight. Clinton was in office for the first WTC bombing…in 1993. A serious terrorist attack that could have been much worse. What did Billy do about it? Nothing.
Then, there's a nice cover-up Clinton orchestrated with Flight 800..a couple months before his re-election in '96. A spark in a fuel tank?? I know more than 1 pilot that are just flabbergasted at how easily the public bought that excuse. There's lots of witnesses that saw the missile shot from Long Island.
Obama, the great Harvard Law Review lawyer, is continuing the left's stupid argument about Guantanamo. He's simply doing it from the highest pulpit in government. Barack, ole buddy, the number of convictions which have come out of Guantanamo doesn't matter, period, exclamation point. You're still on that track of liberal stupidity that can't distinguish between war and civilian criminal prosecution. And considering how well the criminal "justice" system works in this country, thank God we've had the good sense not to treat prisoners of war and enemy combatants as if they were rival members of the Crips and Bloods. Stupid old Bush understood this completely, so how come brilliant you can't? Maybe the adjectives have been reversed.
Obama, the great Harvard Law Review lawyer, is continuing the left's stupid argument about Guantanamo. He's simply doing it from the highest pulpit in government. Barack, ole buddy, the number of convictions which have come out of Guantanamo doesn't matter, period, exclamation point. You're still on that track of liberal stupidity that can't distinguish between war and civilian criminal prosecution. And considering how well the criminal "justice" system works in this country, thank God we've had the good sense not to treat prisoners of war and enemy combatants as if they were rival members of the Crips and Bloods. Stupid old Bush understood this completely, so how come brilliant you can't? Maybe the adjectives have been reversed.
WR,if only you knew all the facts about 9/11, 1993 WTC bombing and Clinton's inaction….Go ahead, tell me what you are programmed to say, how Clinton got all the 1993 WTC bombers…I dare you.
WR,if only you knew all the facts about 9/11, 1993 WTC bombing and Clinton's inaction….Go ahead, tell me what you are programmed to say, how Clinton got all the 1993 WTC bombers…I dare you.
WR,if only you knew all the facts about 9/11, 1993 WTC bombing and Clinton's inaction….Go ahead, tell me what you are programmed to say, how Clinton got all the 1993 WTC bombers…I dare you.
Excellent Article! Thanks.
Just a slight point of fact. You stated "Since Guantanamo was opened we have a 100% record in fending off terrorist attacks in this country."……. That isnt entirely correct. Guantanamo was actually opened at the turn of the 20th century, so our record isn't quite 100%.
Nonetheless, we have a pretty stellar record in keeping all terrorists, enemies, enemy combatants, evil doers, whatever-you-want-to call them, out of the land of the free.
Excellent Article! Thanks.
Just a slight point of fact. You stated "Since Guantanamo was opened we have a 100% record in fending off terrorist attacks in this country."……. That isnt entirely correct. Guantanamo was actually opened at the turn of the 20th century, so our record isn't quite 100%.
Nonetheless, we have a pretty stellar record in keeping all terrorists, enemies, enemy combatants, evil doers, whatever-you-want-to call them, out of the land of the free.
Excellent Article! Thanks.
Just a slight point of fact. You stated "Since Guantanamo was opened we have a 100% record in fending off terrorist attacks in this country."……. That isnt entirely correct. Guantanamo was actually opened at the turn of the 20th century, so our record isn't quite 100%.
Nonetheless, we have a pretty stellar record in keeping all terrorists, enemies, enemy combatants, evil doers, whatever-you-want-to call them, out of the land of the free.
His mental leap was a response to my original double post, but since it wasn't linked his response came before what he was responding to. I started the whole mental leap thing, which resulted in a time rift, I'm more powerful than I thought.
And of course when I went to post this too everything went pear shaped with the comment going though as well.
His mental leap was a response to my original double post, but since it wasn't linked his response came before what he was responding to. I started the whole mental leap thing, which resulted in a time rift, I'm more powerful than I thought.
And of course when I went to post this too everything went pear shaped with the comment going though as well.
His mental leap was a response to my original double post, but since it wasn't linked his response came before what he was responding to. I started the whole mental leap thing, which resulted in a time rift, I'm more powerful than I thought.
And of course when I went to post this too everything went pear shaped with the comment going though as well.
I would like the list, too! Please post it…
Obama is only as untouchable as we the people let him be. We haev to wake up and fight for what is ours. There are many ways to do this and violent revolt is of course the very last resort. But Obama can only succeed if we bend over and take it.
9/11 was an inside job.
Obama knows it was all a lie, what the government told us about 9/11.
This was designed to incrementally take away your ability to dissent against the governent while they transition the country into a facists military dictatorship.
Google these things and see how much the government loves the constitution and the Bill of Rights.
Google:
WTC 7
Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007
Military Commissions Act of 2006
John Warners Defense Act
NSPD51
PATRIOT Act
PART 2
You better wake up America and realize that are governement has been hijacked by commie criminal bankers and they are dead set on destroying liberty and freedom.
They are currently setting up the high tech slave grid that you will have are future generations living in.
Stop playing the fake left -right paradigm. The so called dems just sat back and watched Bush shred the constitution and suck up power. The dems just wanted the power when they got in office.
While we bicker over dems and repubs the bankers who have paid them off are laughing in our face.
Please vote for a patriot next election not a politician.
The people we are electing are not the people making the decisions for this country.
Stop falling for the "Those politicans are stupid" or "They sure are incompetent". They are niether. You see they have a different agenda for America and it does not include good paying jobs, benefits or freedom.
It is a one world government for and by the bankers and corporations where you get to be the slave for them.
I dont buy it either, especially since the recommended fixes were never enacted by the airlines
Mark, what about Betty Hong's phone call and the one from Barbara Olsen? Shut up, please.
"Commie Criminal Bankers?" Where have I heard that one before?
I'm sorry but I don't think "conservative" means what you think it means.
RCSJR: Hang back there on Flight 800 & the 'missle shot from Long Island'—-I ain't no shrinking violet but unless I see film of a 'flying telephone pole' streaming exhausts & flame from 'The Ground to impact with the Airliner I am NOT buying it…
Now that being said, wasn't there a case where an Egyptian airline pilot deliberately crashed his airliner into the Ocean off NY around the same time?
9/11 has many questions that haven't been answered. what ever those so far that have confessed is as worthless as if they had confessed to have sold there souls to satan. i know you will say they have. but we know where the devil really lies. one has to have a few loose screws to think that this camp has any relation to gathering information. where are all those in the US that have been arrested. inside job
I hate to break it to you, but the title "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US" was the most compelling thing about that report, which was nothing but a bunch of speculation and hearsay, of the same type that got us into the Iraq war, and which had been repeated all throughout Clinton's administration (you know, all those times we were actually attacked around the world)?
I certainly wish our government had done more to stop 9/11. But the failure wasn't in not having more federal oversight. The failure was in having working oversight. The blocks were in place, the people were on watchlists, and they still got into the country through existing checkpoints. Not undermanned checkpoints, not unstaffed checkpoints, not unmonitored checkpoints: through checkpoints with people who had current block lists.
Know why? Because for eight years of Clinton we were told that terrorism wasn't a big deal. It's the same line the lefties sold us throughout the Bush administration: terrorists aren't a big deal. Any concern about terrorism is 'fear-mongering' and 'racist'.
It's your own mentality that led to 9/11, sir.
Chilling. Never before do I remember a president who used so many words to say so little. The 60 Minutes interview really proves he doesn't know what the heck he's doing.
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Great article! Gitmo contains the people who want to see this country violently destroyed. I'm not sure how much more proof is necessary. Rehabilitating Islamic fascists is the worst type of nightmarish pipe dream.
Bush may have invented words but I always felt that he completely understood the dangers of radical Islam.
Obama is the exact opposite of this, he thinks he can just reason with them. I guess we shouldn't be surprised he's been friendly with radicals here in the US (he speaks their language).
When one American soldier or civilian is killed by these "rehabilitated" and released Islamic fascist nut cases there is going to be hell to pay. That will be the nail in the coffin for this administration. While Obama is handing out the nails for his coffin in the box load I think this will be the one that will make the Left stop and rethink the Gitmo position. Unfortunately it requires tragedy for some in America to see the forest through the trees.
you're a idiot!
I may be wrong but I think most of the 9/11 hijackers died…not much sense prosecuting a dead guy so I guess the analogy to the World Trade Center prosecution doesn't work
Don't forget the millennium bombers were caught not due to some large scale FBI/CIA/ATF/IMF impenetrable net cast at the direction of the Oval Office, but by a lone, underpaid customs officer who noticed that Ahmed Ressam looked nervous.
That's a good idea. It might take a while to get everything organized and figure out how to do it. I had a MySpace blog that but it's a little dusty in there and I got rid of most of the posts a few weeks ago. That might be fun though, a connect the dots type thing. The news cycle moves so fast it reminds me of a whack-a-mole game. I just had a mental picture of a box filled with moths and different light bulbs flashing on and off every few minutes. I think a place to put everything in to perspective would be great. We're moving too fast.
Thank you for offering the spirit of bipartisanship, and I do appreciate the sentiment. I can't agree with you about the Church committee, though, because I don't believe you can have a free society in which the government and its intelligence agencies have the unfettered right to spy on citizens and to plan and carry out assassinations. There were serious problems with our CIA back then, and if there were mistakes made in correcting them, then the corrections have to be corrected. But I don't want to live in a police state, I don't want the government opening my mail and listening in on my phone calls, and I don't want the CIA deciding on its own which foreign leaders should be allowed to live and which will die.____I also don't think that the "handcuffs" on the CIA was the single fact that caused 9/11. Over the last couple of decades the agency proved itself of screwing up just about everything it touched, from the ludicrous assassination attempts on Fidel Castro to the overinflated estimates of teh USSR's economic and military strength.____And I know the FBI doesn't have jurisdiction on foreign soil. That was part of Golan's fantasy.
No, that was flying saucers. You're as nuts as the people who say W personally planned 9/11.
Thank you for clearing that up, Golani. I thought I had responded directly to you. Guess I messed up.
Say, are you close friends with the guy who saw a missile shoot down flight 800?
Gitmo only makes sense to you if you believe the Bush rhetoric that the "terrorists are out to get us." Bush used that line to instill fear in the US public as justification (and support) of his contra-Constitutional agenda. The Bush administration used this country as his plaything and puppet for 8 grueling years and have obviously managed to brainwash a large number of Americans that what he did was in their best interests, rather than just in the best interest of their pocketbooks. Fear has historically been used to control people… look at the power of the Church. Bush was a master of manipulation and fear, but our Constitution lives on… as it must.
Forget premier of USSA..He called himself a "citizen of the WORLD"..he wants to run the world.
If Bush had a clue about radical Islam, he wouldn't have eliminated Saddam Hussein, the one check on Iran's ambitions in the region.
So, you want to make Shadow Warrior into a movie eh? I would certainly wait for G.W's book to come out or you will be looking at competition from the alternate perspective. Would just like to see a scene of the commander in cheif sweating in front of the mirror and a backdrop of the pressure to make a nanosecond decision. Much like the troops on the ground that face life and death every day. If you can separate the before and after….. Throw it to god. Best part about it….would show the difference in political agenda and the effects on humanity. Alternatively giving the person with the blue tie a human quality.
I thought you'd replied directly too which is why I deleted the first post and inserted the "see below" on it. But the comments have been working oddly for me for the past 2 days, it's all on me.
Sorry if you caught any extra flak due to my screw-up, it'd be unfair; plus I like people to collect flak the old fashioned way, on their own merit.
Obama took a 400 billion dollar deficit, and in two months made it a 1.8 trillion dollar deficit (per CBO). Bush had nothing to do with the horrid "Stimulus" bill, which was what – 874 billion dollars, or twice the deficit barky has been whining about ? And this isn't even taking into account preznit karaoke's several trillion dollar down payment on "free" healthcare.
Bush inherited an economy in recession after he beat gore down. Don't remember him whining like a beeyotch like jugears the vapid has for two months.
Also, who has been in charge of congress for the last couple years? Democrats. Dow went from over 12 to just over 7 thousand in that time. The fannie/freddie debacle- democrats fault. And on and on and on.
Nice try, troll. Don't you have a bride to go lurk under?
hey stoopit, can you say "subliterate dolt"? Take your graham cracker and get back on the short bus.
Iran wasn't the only threat in the region though. While Saddam was more-or-less a secular dictator, he did also provide money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers, which makes him as much of a terrorist enabler as the Iranians were/are.
Add in the fact that there was an Ansar al-Islam camp located in Iraq and it makes it even more apparent what his eventual ambitions could have been, I mean you don't just waltz into a totalitarian dictatorship and set up a terrorist training camp without the approval of the dictator.
So you're saying that the terrorists really aren't out to get us, even though they explicitly say they are?
So, are you LIHOP or MIHOP?
Except, when I ask what rights people like you have lost, I generally either get one of two answers:
1.) thundering silence
2.) reference to the one case where justice was miscarried … one out of how many?
People like wr1 like to pretend folks like Jamie Gorelick don't exist. The ones who broke down communications between the different security offices, and made passing of information near impossible. A memo that has vague information, no time, date, location, or any real facts is what they use as proof that Bush just ignored our safety. They think Al Gore would have been able to figure the whole mystery out, and stopped it. This coming from a man who thinks the Earth has a fee-vah! Uh, yeah.
"This coming from a man who thinks the Earth has a fee-vah!"
Great now I'm picturing Al Gore with a cowbell and his shirt unbuttoned to the waist, not only is that so wrong, but I doubt there's a therapist on the planet than can undo the mental image.
Look, the lefties on the sites like DU and Kos, would be willing to personally waterboard any of us, right now. They frequently post stuff about how Bush, Cheney, etc., should be taken out back and shot. They aren't sqeamish at all about getting rid of US officials or citizens who disagree with their world view, but want to protect terrorists to the death. So, how to deal logically with folks who have a mindset like this? You don't, they are crazy, and refuse to listen.
MIHOP
I would also like to see a video of the Obama administration danceing to Survivalism by Nine Inch Nails
Barbara Olsens phone calls have been proven to be fake by the FBI no less.
This all came out in the trial on the so called "20th hijacker".
Please do research before giving out old outdated wrong information..Thanks.
David Ray Griffin has done extensive research on this topic.
You could not make cell phone calls from 30,000 feet in 2001.
It was proven she did not use the air phone either because she did not have her purse on her and those phones require a credit card.
You Righties are just jealous of the world's 1st Trillionaire.
John, thanks for a great article and continuing to point out how much our sitting president is wrong. Thank you for continuing to be what the media is supposed to be – not propaganda drool machines.
You mean by some dumb luck that the Customs and Border agent got suspicious that the millenium bomber and pulled him over to search his car. The credit belonged to the agent, not Clinton.
I have no doubt that Barry O will punish any terrorists that COMMITED an act of violence. I'd rather he arrest them and foil the plot before someone dies. That's called pre-emption. Clinton reduced budget for military and CIA, and Bush had to rebuilt them. Funny how that never comes up on your side's arguments.
Unlike you, I can sleep at night knowing that we caught and jailed or killed someone before they commit a terrorist act, before anyone dies.
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"As a guy who has just made a film about how the news media paved the way for President Obama’s election,"
Like that monkey with a typewriter that won a Pulitzer Prize.
Two words darlin' : Jamie Gorelick. I watched Clinton for 8 years and as far as I am concerned, September 11, 2001 was Clinton's fault.
A few more words: if there is another 9-11, I ain't just blaming the Obamanation Usuper of the Office of the POTUS, I am blaming all of you who voted for him. That's right: the blood of innocents will be on YOUR hands. And if you think I'm pissed off now…
I wouldnt bother responding to this darlin. Everything I needed to learn about politics and presidencies I learned from the Left: DISSENT IS PATRIOTIC. And Ive always prided myself on being a damn good patriot.
Sorry for the mental poison injection. I swear I love it when people say. "Gore could have handled the problems, he would have made sure we weren't attacked, we would have been safer, blah, blah, blah." Seriously? Gore is the biggest goober walking around, w/o a caregiver beside him, in the world. I met Al and Tipper in the 90's at political events, I could not believe the sheer ignorance from both of them. I didn't like Clinton, but the man is extremely intelligent, very sharp recall of facts, and details. Al, he makes Joe Biden look brainy.
If Bin Laden were stopped under Clinton then there would have been no need to stop him later. Is that simple fact too difficult of a concept to wrap your brain around? Clinton had a chance to get Bin Laden but made a conscious decision to not rock the boat politically. He as much said so. Clinton was extremely weak on terrorism and Obama shows all the signs of being even weaker.
Remember before you can bring the full weight of the law to bear against a suspect a crime has to be committed. How many folks want to be the next victim of a terrorist attack so that we can bring criminal charges? I would much rather stop the attack from happening then launching a Cruise missle into an empty aspirin factory in the Sudan as a response for dead Americans.
Your point brings up a flaw in the Liberal mindset about terrorism. The box cutters weren't already on the airplane, neither were the hijackers. Given those facts, How would you stop then from hijacking the planes since they haven't broken any laws? When would you arrest them, and on what charges? And as it was, the local law enforcement won't know anything about them since the intel wasn't shared, so they couldn't detain or arrest, let alone approach them for they will bring some Civil Rights attorneys and sue for Civil Rights violation to fund their next projects.____Please explain…
I'm a absolutely not picking on the typo, skating, but I find it utterly hilarious that a troll would have a bride, let alone one under whom to lurk.
Ooooh big words. Tough talk. LOL. Moran.
Exactly, credit not due to Bill Clinton or his administration.
Didn't you post this on another thread? God that is lame.
I don't know how old you are, so I have no idea if you ever flew before 2001, but I'm ancient enough to have done it lots of time, and even back in those olden times you had to go through airport security, you had to pass through metal detectors, and at times of heightened security — like during the first Gulf war — they actually did things like search people. So had the FAA been instructed to heighten security, there would have been more searches, and if the box cutters had been found — which should not have been too difficult — at the very least they would have taken the weapons away.
Maybe this is the flaw in the conservative mindset about terrorism: You don't actually have to torture everyone who has a funny name to be safe. A little common sense goes a long way.
I don't know how old you are, so I have no idea if you ever flew before 2001, but I'm ancient enough to have done it lots of time, and even back in those olden times you had to go through airport security, you had to pass through metal detectors, and at times of heightened security — like during the first Gulf war — they actually did things like search people. So had the FAA been instructed to heighten security, there would have been more searches, and if the box cutters had been found — which should not have been too difficult — at the very least they would have taken the weapons away.
Maybe this is the flaw in the conservative mindset about terrorism: You don't actually have to torture everyone who has a funny name to be safe. A little common sense goes a long way.
Clinton did try to get Bin Laden and he failed. Naturally all the Republicans in congress rallied behind and and urged him to try again, because they understood the threat so well.
Oh, wait, no they didn't. They said he was inventing a threat to take people's minds off Monica Lewinsky and proceeded to impeach him for a consensual sexual act.
And even if you can blame Clinton for not getting Bin Laden, here's the difference: When Clinton was in office, Bin Laden was a threat. One of many potential threats to our security. After 9/11, Bin Laden was responsible for the worst act of terrorism on our soil in history. And he couldn't be bothererd to do anything to catch the man, instead pulling most of our troops out of Afghanistan so he could pursue his war of choice in Iraq.
But, yes, it's Obama who's weak on terrorism. I'm sure you'll start complaining soon that he hasn't caught Bin Laden.
Clinton did try to get Bin Laden and he failed. Naturally all the Republicans in congress rallied behind and and urged him to try again, because they understood the threat so well.
Oh, wait, no they didn't. They said he was inventing a threat to take people's minds off Monica Lewinsky and proceeded to impeach him for a consensual sexual act.
And even if you can blame Clinton for not getting Bin Laden, here's the difference: When Clinton was in office, Bin Laden was a threat. One of many potential threats to our security. After 9/11, Bin Laden was responsible for the worst act of terrorism on our soil in history. And he couldn't be bothererd to do anything to catch the man, instead pulling most of our troops out of Afghanistan so he could pursue his war of choice in Iraq.
But, yes, it's Obama who's weak on terrorism. I'm sure you'll start complaining soon that he hasn't caught Bin Laden.
It's only "just scare tactics" when used by an incompetent administration to jack up the fear level before elections.
It's only "just scare tactics" when used by an incompetent administration to jack up the fear level before elections.
Yes, Obama is a usurper. That's what you on the right call someone who actually gets more votes, I guess.
Yes, Obama is a usurper. That's what you on the right call someone who actually gets more votes, I guess.
Carry on bags weren't scrutinized as they've been since 9/11. Records shows they had trial runs and probably had box cutters with them, yet they weren't arrested. I see your point that security could have caught them, but do we know if they used the metal casing cutters or plastic ones? I can ware my big Tag Heuer stainless steel watch and belt thru metal detectors and never set them off, and I fly frequently since the late 80's.
Besides, you assumed the FAA knew these guys were coming.
Carry on bags weren't scrutinized as they've been since 9/11. Records shows they had trial runs and probably had box cutters with them, yet they weren't arrested. I see your point that security could have caught them, but do we know if they used the metal casing cutters or plastic ones? I can ware my big Tag Heuer stainless steel watch and belt thru metal detectors and never set them off, and I fly frequently since the late 80's.
Besides, you assumed the FAA knew these guys were coming.
I totally agree!! I would LOVE to see a blog about all the madness…..It just makes my blood boil when I think about it, but I also feel I NEED to be informed!!
The democrats who voted for the war were fools and cowards. They were lied to by the Bush administration, but a lot of them knew they were being lied to and went along anyway because they didn't have the political courage to oppose it. That's the main reason that Hillary Clinton isn't president today.
As for you sliming Clinton, I hope you will at least cast your mind back and remember what kind of support he was getting from the Republican congress at the time. None. On any issue. One prominent senate Republican actually threated that Clinton would — and he meant should — be killed if he set foot on a Southern army base. They spent eight years with only one focus — to destroy a Democratic president. So tell me, if Clinton had gone to congress and said we need to go to war with these people you've never heard of, what would the response be? I think I remember — they called it "wag the dog," and went back to impeaching him.
The democrats who voted for the war were fools and cowards. They were lied to by the Bush administration, but a lot of them knew they were being lied to and went along anyway because they didn't have the political courage to oppose it. That's the main reason that Hillary Clinton isn't president today.
As for you sliming Clinton, I hope you will at least cast your mind back and remember what kind of support he was getting from the Republican congress at the time. None. On any issue. One prominent senate Republican actually threated that Clinton would — and he meant should — be killed if he set foot on a Southern army base. They spent eight years with only one focus — to destroy a Democratic president. So tell me, if Clinton had gone to congress and said we need to go to war with these people you've never heard of, what would the response be? I think I remember — they called it "wag the dog," and went back to impeaching him.
And what happened to the mastermind of the WTC bombing? Oh, yeah, he's in jail.
And what happened to the murderers who blew up the Federal Building? Oh yeah, one's been executed, the other's in prison forever.
And what happened to Osama Bin Laden? Oh, yeah, he's out there laughing at you.
And what happened to the mastermind of the WTC bombing? Oh, yeah, he's in jail.
And what happened to the murderers who blew up the Federal Building? Oh yeah, one's been executed, the other's in prison forever.
And what happened to Osama Bin Laden? Oh, yeah, he's out there laughing at you.
And what — all those supposed tairists we have at Guantanamo were captured personally by W, who strode out onto the battlefield armed with nothing but his teeth?
You know, that's the trouble with a free society. If you want to live in a military dictatorship, you might feel safer. But without that, it's really hard to know which people you should lock up for the rest of their lives — or kill — simply because you think they may harm you at some point.
You know, that's the trouble with a free society. If you want to live in a military dictatorship, you might feel safer. But without that, it's really hard to know which people you should lock up for the rest of their lives — or kill — simply because you think they may harm you at some point.
But wr1, Clinton did take us to war in Kosovo, so I don't buy your peace mongering obstructionist Republicans theory.
Oh, and we have just come off of 8 years of destroy a Republican President at all cost. So what is your point there?
Everyone conveniently forgets that two acts of terror were committed on American soil while Clinton was president, and the TWA 800 downing was terror related as well as Ok City. McVeigh and company were getting money from Islamic terrorists in the Phillipines. The plane was perhaps accidentally shot down while our Navy was attempting to intercept a small plane with a bomb on board heading for NYC. But, it was 1996, an election year, and that fact had to be kept from the American public, or Clinton might not have been reelected.
Have we? And what exactly did that master plan to destroy Bush consist of? Giving him everything he wanted legislatively, from ludicrous tax cuts for the rich to a disastrous and unnecessary war to zero oversight to putting the right-wingers he wanted on the Supreme Court — all in hopes that when the American people saw just how destructive his philosophy was they'd turn on him? Well, then, I guess it worked, but the price was pretty high.
Or did you mean that some people criticized him? Oh,yes, hang those traitors!
The Church commissions didn't directly interfere the governments ability to spy on citizens so much as they imposed so much bureaucratic red tape and regulations that it became almost impossible for our intelligence services to accomplish anything. The legal wall set up between the CIA and FBI (and the FBI's counterintelligence branch and law enforcement branch) before 9/11 was so bad that no one could effectively pass information and accomplish anything. The FISA warrants and PATRIOT act were a post-9/11 backlash aimed at overcoming the crippling regulations of the past decades. Maybe they went to far (I don't personally think so), but when you have to immediately and quickly change directions, you often overdo things. Your disparagement of CIA effectiveness over the last few decades pretty much proves my point about too much oversight. Intelligence organizations by nature can't function like normal bureaucracies, and when they do, you get subpar results like the inflated estimates of the USSR you mentioned. Which was why Reagan had to bring in outside analysts to take a fresh, independent look at the data.
The Church commissions didn't directly interfere the governments ability to spy on citizens so much as they imposed so much bureaucratic red tape and regulations that it became almost impossible for our intelligence services to accomplish anything. The legal wall set up between the CIA and FBI (and the FBI's counterintelligence branch and law enforcement branch) before 9/11 was so bad that no one could effectively pass information and accomplish anything. The FISA warrants and PATRIOT act were a post-9/11 backlash aimed at overcoming the crippling regulations of the past decades. Maybe they went to far (I don't personally think so), but when you have to immediately and quickly change directions, you often overdo things. Your disparagement of CIA effectiveness over the last few decades pretty much proves my point about too much oversight. Intelligence organizations by nature can't function like normal bureaucracies, and when they do, you get subpar results like the inflated estimates of the USSR you mentioned. Which was why Reagan had to bring in outside analysts to take a fresh, independent look at the data.
And a suicide mission too boot?
"….cast your mind back and remember what kind of support he was getting from the Republican congress at the time. None."
Sigh. Good times.
"you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?"
That is a question America needs to ask its self. Because the way things are going, you are going to need all the luck you can get to stay safe for the next four years. Or ask yourself another question, how many dead Americans will it take to realize that the POTUS hasn't a clue what he's doing.
Moran sounds like a star trek name. Dig deeper.
No blasphemy please.
Why does Obama put a pause between the first two to six words in all of his responses?
Does Obama have lung disease from all those years of smoking?
Does he have trouble using that ear piece (when not on teleprompter) that tells him exactly what to say?
Isn't that, the way, Captain Kirk, used to talk, once upon a time, on, a, TV, show?
"(looking sober and far away) Well folks, you can, put lipstick on a pig (smile), but it still smells like fish (smile cleverly, lean to one side, laugh like a dope)!!"
Whenever someone uses "the fact of the matter is", their statements are lies most all other times.
In other words, he will only tell the truth when he uses that "the fact of the matter is". If he doesn't begin EVERY sentence "the fact of the matter is", then the sentence is a half truth, omission or outright lie.
"Ludicrous tax cuts for the rich" ????
Wow…. I didn't realize I was rich…..thanks for the heads ups
I need to run right out and buy me a Mercedes
In 3 parts:
Wondering why nobody is talking about The US President's update of 1404.10 effective immediately on Jan 23 2009.
Read
<http://www.dtic.mil/…/140410p.pdf>
Department of Defense DIRECTIVE NUMBER 1404.10 23 January 2009 USD(P&R)
SUBJECT: DoD Civilian Expeditionary Workforce
References: See Enclosure 1
1.PURPOSE. This Directive: a. Reissues DoD Directive (DoDD) 1404.10 (Reference (a)) under a new title to establish the policy through which an appropriately sized subset of the DoD civilian workforce is preidentified to be organized, trained, and equipped in a manner that facilitates the use of their capabilities for operational requirements.
2.These requirements are typically away from the normal work locations of DoD civilians, or in situations where other civilians may be evacuated to assist military forces where the use of DoD civilians collectively known as the DoD Civilian Expeditionary Workforce. Members of the DoD
Civilian Expeditionary Workforce shall be organized, trained, cleared, equipped, and ready to deploy in support of combat operations by the military; contingencies; emergency operations, humanitarian missions; disaster relief; restoration of order; drug interdiction; and stability operations of the Department of Defense in accordance with DoDD 3000.05 (Reference (b)).
Or this:
$550B Bank Run on Sep 11th [Rep. Kanjorski]
Youtube-CSPAN Video (starts around min 2:10)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_atOvrTtT8
At 11AM on Thursday Sep 11, 2008 the Federal Reserve notice a draw-down of
$550 billion on US Money markets in a matter of 1-hour. The Treasury pumped
$105 billion into the system and quickly realized that they could not stem the
tide…. "we were having an electronic run on the banks!" They closed the money
accounts and announced a $250,000 guarantee on each account. If they had not done that their [FED & Treasury] estimation was that by 2PM that afternoon $5.5 Trillion would have been drawn out of the money market system of the USA which would have collapsed the entire economy of the USA and collapsed the world economy within 24 hours.
"This would have been the end of our economic and political system as we know it."
Congressman Kanjorski (D) should certainly be a credible source on this matter, as he's a senior member of the Financial Services Committee and Chairman of the Financial Services Subcommittee on Capital Markets.
Yes – please post it. I've been keeping a file in an e-mail folder of articles about the Messiah too.
Arguing by not addressing an argument is so magical.
Also, Obama, where is the several thousand dollars tax refund your website calculator promised to my family during your campaign? He reniqqed on his campaign promises and gave the treasury away to the crooked banks and brokerages.
I've been trying to write down all of his gaffes, but there have been too many to keep track of! Its becoming a full time job.
Would these be folks set to run the Disaster Relief camps http://www.prisonplanet.com/new-legislation-autho... ? The legislation in question is in the article. The troubling part is the bit that stipulates that these camps can also be used for any other purpose deemed necessary.
"Clinton did try to get Bin Laden"
Um… no. Before 1998, the Clinton administration considered Bin Laden a financier of terrorist activities but not a "mastermind" because, they claimed, they had no real evidence of him harming Americans. All they tried to do was to get Saudi Arabia to take him. Bin Laden was an official guest of Sudan, whose government had been implicated in the attacks on the World Trade Center in 1993. By 1996 the Sudanese were trying to mend their relationship with the US. A meeting between the Sudanese minister of state for defense, Maj. Gen. Elfatih Erwa and CIA operatives took place, where, according to Erwa, Bin Laden was offered to the US. Clinton, Sandy Berger and the 9/11 Commission said there was "no credible evidence" the offer was made. However, Erwa insists he did offer; those people making denials were not at the meeting; later both Clinton and Sandy Berger made statements (Clinton in a 2002 speech, Berger in an interview with the Washington Post in 2001) that they wanted Bin Laden, although, true to his nature, Clinton retracted that in 2004.
"They said he was inventing a threat to take people's minds off Monica Lewinsky and proceeded to impeach him for a consensual sexual act."
Again, um… no.
1995
Lewinsky has "consensual" sex with Clinton.
Gets string of government jobs.
1998
Lewinsky files an affidavit in the Paula Jones case (accusing Clinton of sexual harassment) in which she denies ever having a sexual relationship with President Clinton.
Several news organizations report the alleged sexual relationship between Lewinsky and Clinton. Clinton denies the allegations as the scandal erupts.
Clinton testifies, under oath, to a grand jury he didn't have sex with Lewisky
After many denials, Clinton fesses up on national TV
The Senate begins impeachment procedures FOR LYING UNDER OATH.
The Justice Department issued an indictment against Bin Laden.
Clinton orders missile strike against terrorism training camps in Afghanistan and a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan. This became known as "Wag the Dog" referring to the movie out at the time about a fictitious U.S. president who stages a war in the Balkans to divert attention from a sex scandal.
<a href="http://www.landmarkcases.org/nixon/clinton.html” target=”_blank”>http://www.landmarkcases.org/nixon/clinton.html
what about the wall preventing the cia from giving the fbi terrorism info? jaime gorelick worked for clinton constructing that wall before going on to the 911 commission to whitewash it all. How come dems are only for national security in the past, not the present or future???? Al gore is too busy eating, wasting energy & yelling about the sky falling to be competant at anything. FBI agents in afganistan? You're trying out material for comedy central???
You didn't realize you were rich? But you have a job… that should have been all the evidence you needed!
You didn't realize you were rich? But you have a job… that should have been all the evidence you needed!
And add in the fact that Saddam was caught plotting to kill Bush Sr… which would have been an act of war in itself back before America became emasculated.
And add in the fact that Saddam was breaking the terms that he agreed to to end the first Iraq war… which in itself was just cause for us to resume hostilities.
America had many reasons to continue the war in Iraq.
"Commie Criminal Bankers", for those of you who don't already know, is code for the "J"-word.
Grand Kleagle/UberStormbahnFuhrer "Mark" probably memorized it from his daily reading of "The Protocols of the Elders of (rhymes with lion)".
By the same token, what he means by "9/11 was an inside job" is that it was planned and executed by a certain "Criminal (rhymes with Lionist) Entity" in the Middle East…
P.S. sounds to me like that rabid lunatic Rexter is back and now calling himself "Mark"…; – )
(sorry if this turns out to be a double post, but my original comment is in moderation, and I changed the three words that might have triggered the filter)
That's what the voices in his head keep telling him.
They also assured him that 9/11 was an "inside job".
Thank you for saving me the trouble of pointing out the the ludicrous story of Clinton turning down the offer of Bin Laden was a rather obvious lie by a sleazebag from the Sudan government. You may take his word over that of the 9/11 commission. If so, there's a gentleman who insists that the US government shot down flight 800 over New York. I'm sure you could have fun together.
And I'm sorry if I shortened the timeline of the Clinton impeachment witchhunt. When I said they impeached him for a consensual sex act, I neglected to mention that to do it they had to rig up a perjury trap, which he walked into. And then they tried to remove the democratically elected president of the United States over a matter which mattered not a bit to the safety and security of this nation. It was a pure power grab, and just about the most loathesome thing I could imagine a government official doing. Oh, until Bush got into office and deliberately lied about intelligence so he could start a war. That was worse.
It took me three thousand dead americans to realize that the last one didn't have a clue what he was doing.
As I said — if they had tightened security. Which they didn't, because Bush didn't care about terrorism, because Clinton did. And all Condoleeza Rice cared about was the former Soviet Untion, because that's what her dissertation was about.
And only you know about it!
It is an irrefutable fact Clinton lied under oath to a grand jury, which is illegal. There are no facts that the "Sleazebag" from the Sudan did.
When you decide to get off Fantasy Island, please check the articles of impeachment. Nothing rigged about that. Nothing mentioned about sex either. It's ALL about lying under oath. And, please, the "Bush lied" argument is so juvenile. Try some facts for a change.
Here's a complete timeline.
http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/history/johnson...
I thought you folks might "enjoy" this newsflash that just appeared on the "Drudge Report":
"The end of the Global War on Terror — or at least the use of that phrase — has been codified at the Pentagon. Reports that the phrase was being retired have been circulating for some time amongst senior administration officials, and this morning speechwriters and other staff were notified via this e-mail to use "Overseas Contingency Operation" instead."
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this stomach-churning display of politically correct cowardice that won't even use the word "terror" anymore because EVERYBODY knows exactly WHO is committing these acts of terror!
'Ya, but he manned up real fast, did what needed to be done and kept you safe for seven years. Let's hope you're as lucky this time.
Mr Ziegler, the reason so many conservatives aren't more up in arms over the 60 Minutes segment is because most of us didn't watch it. I know I didn't. This show has a history of throwing softballs to the liberals. When the supreme high commander of the liberal elite shows up for an "interview", I just couldn't bear to watch another member of the press put a lip lock on Obama's backside.
Not only is that obnoxiously PC, it doesn't even make sense. Contingent on what? Aw, hell!
wr1, Any commander in chief that is getting "consensual " servicing in the oval office from an intern while talking to a legislator about national defense should be impeached! You don't agree? I didn't think so. People like you admire Clinton for whipping it out in the oval office. You have no concept of what makes this country better than any country that has come before.
Condi's dissertation was informed. Michelle O's thesis was, well, embarassing. Barack thought it was cool though.
The millenium bomber (singular) got arrested 12/14/99 because someone got lucky when his rental car got checked. Clinton let Osama get away several times. What's in that Kool-Aid you're drinking? Were you born crazy, writer/producer William Rabkin?
Pretty sure this is Hollywood libtard William Rabkin.
Mark, you are really Rosie O'donnell right?
But Al Gore would have stopped the hijackers by either arresting them, or by what? There was no TSA at the time and small pocket knives and box cutters were legal to carry on planes at the time. Remember, until 9/11, no one had ever used a plane as a weapon against a skyscraper. Think back to your own reaction to the news that morning — were you saying, "yeah, I figured somebody would do that one day," or was it more along the lines of "I don't believe this….."?
We don't even know that the hijackers wouldn't have had a contingency plan in case their box cutters were taken away. We really don't know what might have happened, only what did. Saying Bush should have stopped it presupposes that he would have had no problem increasing airport security in the face of NO CREDIBLE PROOF of where or when the threats were to be carried out. Had he attempted to install more onerous security prior to 9/11, imagine the outcry about our "loss of constitutional rights" that would have ensued.
I wish the terrorist attacks on 9/11 would not have happened, but I don't believe anyone in Government could have prevented them, no matter who was in the White House. Now that they are history, ignoring the willingness of terrorists to die in their attempts to bring down our country is just plain foolishness.
diogenes, Translation please.
Why would they have tightened security when no one informed them what the nature of the threat was? Like I said, suicide hijacking; unprecedented. George Tenet didn't put together the pieces of intel he had until after the first plane went into the building.
You assumed Bush didn't care. The President of The United States didn't care that his country was about to be attacked, and untold thousands would die; like Katrina.
Thanks for playing.
Shh don't mention full time jobs, they'll think you're rich and try to tax the air right out of your lungs.
"P.S. sounds to me like that rabid lunatic Rexter is back and now calling himself "Mark"…; – )"
That's what I was thinking too.
They probably also believe that when Ahmenidajad talks about wiping a certain country off the face of the Earth he's just funnin' with us too.
I hate to say it but even "War on Terror" was fairly PC too though, if everyone were being really honest they would have called it what it is: War on Islamists. Even the WoT blandness did let people know what the point was without being specific, although it should have have been clearly specified all along.
And now this? Who comes up with these ideas, George Costanza? Because that's what I picture when I read "Overseas Contingency Operation," whole brigades of chubby little men in too tight suits giving dull, half-understood lectures on Risk Management to bored, yet irritated, tribesmen.
The Democrats are pussies on terrorism. Fighting against islamic hatred is against everything a liberal believes in. Democrats believe that we are the true reason people were motivated to kill innocent lives. Apparently Bush invading Iraq pissed off the islamic terrorists so much they attacked us on 9-11. Yea, that's it.
Agreed. But "War on Terror," as abstract as it was, at least meant we were at war with something, however badly described. Of course the description I prefer would cause heart attacks around the world, strokes in the halls of the politically-correct, and immediately identify the enemy. "Crusade." We lost all the other ones, so I don't know what the Muslims are complaining about. But this one we need to win, or bye-bye civilized world.
Zig, his words, “I mean, the fact of the matter is, after all these years how many convictions actually came out of Guantanamo? How many– how many terrorists have actually been brought to justice under the philosophy that is being promoted by Vice President Cheney? It hasn’t made us safer,” will be the epitaph to his miserable presidency.
Yep, I agree that WoT was serviceable enough, I just always wanted a little extra honesty. But this new thing, I'm serious as soon as I read those words George Costanza immediately sprang to mind.
Great and disturbing post, John.
Welcome back to September 10, 2001. Someone who refuses to learn from history is hell-bent on having us repeat it.
I had a similar idea back in early 2008 with stories about "the failure in Iraq" and "the dangers of Global Warming".
I just started posting them to a blog. I don't even add any of my own text. Just a link and a snippet from the story. In the blog format, it is really easy to organize and find stuff.
Take a look:
http://globalwarmingjihad.blogspot.com/
Don't waste your breath on wr1. He posted the same tired "argument" before. I asked him the same follow up questions that you did and he ignored them as he ignored you.
Apparently, from the title of that memo, wr1 was able to divine the who/what/when/where of the 9/11 attacks.
Of course, he won't share how he managed to do that. We just have to assume that he is the most intelligent, perceptive man who ever lived.
Hmm…maybe he is Mr. Universe from "Watchmen"?
"But 9/11 happened eight months into Bush's watch — after he ignored a presidential briefing warning him of an impending attack –"
wr1, please post where in that memo it warns of an impending attack.
Here's a link to it:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0409041pdb1….
"But 9/11 happened eight months into Bush's watch — after he ignored a presidential briefing warning him of an impending attack –"
wr1, please post where in that memo it warns of an impending attack.
Here's a link to it:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0409041pdb1….
Contigent on when we decide to acquiesce to whatever is wanted from us by the Muslims? Good googa mooga, how idiotic can you get? Did Janet Nappytoe think this name up, too? Send her back to the border where she was already not doing her job.
Two things: Take a deep breath. Then please take your meds, I think you are missing a dose.
I don't know why, but everytime a 9/11 post comes up, it brings out teh crazy. The whole "fire doesn't melt steel crowd." I'll never forget the first time I heard that little nutty statement. My husband and I are in the steel business, and we just turned and looked at each other and said, "WHAT????" At the exact same time. We both cracked up laughing, assuming that no one else would be that dumb, but surprise! There are people that dumb.
Are you admitting that radical Islam is dangerous and the proponents of it should be contained/held in I don't know say a prison of some sort. Personally I couldn't careless about regional differences….unless they played into the arguments put forth by the right vs. the left debate on "Peace in the Middle East."
Peace in the Middle East is an atrocious misnomer, it will never exist and never has.
Wait wr1 are you saying that the US Military needs to take care of Iran as well?
I couldn't agree more and I'm glad you've come to the side of reason. Iran is dangerous and no U can not ran from it.
If you really want your blood to boil, then understand, on the http://www.sec.gov site, back in November wer two required reports by AIG that contained our government signing off on bonuses. Even if Obama claims not knowing about the AIG bonuses until March, by doing so he admits to being incredibly ignorant for having not taken less than 5 minutes to research or have researched information that is available to the general public.
Colossal blunder.
It could also be his equally demented b*st*rd son….; – )
Actually, we might, theoretically at least, actually be able to get away with "Crusade" because those lunatics ALREADY refer to us as "Crusaders"…; – )
As for causing heart attacks and strokes in the politically correct- yet ANOTHER excellent reason to adopt that term.
Nuff said?
The down size to the move by teh FEDS was teh fact they stipulated, by law, that teh FDIC could not charge for the additional coverage but that they would loan it money when they needed it.
Just a continuation of no business sense in the minds of our public servants.
Maybe if Ms. Nappytoe changed the name from "border" to, say, "Friendship & Love Crossing" and pleaded with them to knock before entering, they might feel ashamed at taking advantage of such good-natured, polite and respectful neighbors?
I'm just sayin'…
Bill was busy getting BJ's in the White House, so we can let him off the hook for setting the US Itel system up to fail. But then you would have to read the 911 report to understand the previous 8 yrs. Oh, but then you would have to learn how to read.
hmmm, well there is still time. Get a tutor.
Bill was busy getting BJ's in the White House, so we can let him off the hook for setting the US Itel system up to fail. But then you would have to read the 911 report to understand the previous 8 yrs. Oh, but then you would have to learn how to read.
hmmm, well there is still time. Get a tutor.
Man, this is great. The whole kool aid kit in ONE DOLT.
You must be a happy man, having the whole world right in front of you! You must have a teleprompter too.
Your boy barry is the first affirmative action POTUS. Yes, he needs help but we white folks have to help out.
Had Clinton been a normal CEO, he would have been fired on the spot for his BJ from a junior aide.
Wake up, Bill was didlin' and the terrorrists were planning. Ah, the truth, try it.
Specific to Obama, the man is a retard (offense intended) and most of us can see that already.
Had Clinton been a normal CEO, he would have been fired on the spot for his BJ from a junior aide.
Wake up, Bill was didlin' and the terrorrists were planning. Ah, the truth, try it.
Specific to Obama, the man is a retard (offense intended) and most of us can see that already.
Speaking of torture. Definition please. Easy to use the word but hard to actual know what you are talking about. Kind of like racism, Eric.
The POTUS read his speech last night on a big TV screen. Why even show up, he can just submit a tape of himself reading it.
What a putz.
Oh, well there was that little problem with the 500 TONS of yellowcake uranium that SH has stored. This is now in Canada being processed for fuel.
The press loves to simply not mention this little fact as they continue to mouth BUSH LIED. However, there it was.
I suspect Obama isn't worried about Islamic terrorist attacks on the USA. He's the quintessential Alfred E. Neuman "What? Me Worry?" president. The Economy is tanking? What? Me worry? Releasing terrorists? Don't worry, be happy. Another 9-11? Nah. That was a fluke. The man is inept and clueless.
(By the way, unless someone beat me to it, I came up with a new bumper sticker that says it all: THE OCONOMY).
And before the trolls climb up out of the miasma to blame it on Bush, do the research. I did. The economy was
doing okay until June 3 when Obama got the Dem NOMINATION. I think we all knew whoever won the Dem nomination was going to win the election thanks to the Repubs nominating McCain and the press which nominates Dems, so when capital figured out it was going to be a neoMarxist with no clue how to run anything, they packed up and moved.
If the democrats were lied to by the Bush admin, then they were also lied to by democrats. Every democrat that spoke of Saddams WMDs, including Kerry, Gore, and Hillary, just to name a few.
If nothing had been done in Iraq I or Iraq II, do you think Iran, Iraq's sworn enemy, would have beaten Iraq to nuclear weapons?
The republican party worked with Clinton on welfare reform, and he depended on the republican part to pass NAFTA. (probably a mistake) The timing of his missle attack on the aspirin factory was very "wag the dog". Are you say Bush's war on terror was to distract us from his… what?? War on terror?
Ah, and getting more votes (when it's a Republican who wins) is what you on the left call Stealing an election/disenfranchising voters, and on and on and on for about 8 years.
Liberals FORGET to note that the memo was almost identical to the one BUBBA was given in the 90's. Hell, a small plane crashed into the grounds feet from the WH in early 90's..no one took notice and thought it was plausible.
they will never admit to low enriched uranium being removed from Iraq. Never.
I can't figure out what is worse, either he is an incredible idiot who is being "handled" behind the scenes or is simply a Marxist that wants to destroy the US and transform it into the next communist state.
Oh please, if an old lady in Guam dropped dead, it was somehow George Bush's fault. You idiots actually thought he was responsible for a tsunami because of his inaction on global warming.
Exactly.
I personally think he's a bit of both. To me he seems completely deliberate about domestic policy and the direction on how he wants to "steer" the country, and at the same time a completely naive fool when it comes to foreign policy.
Do they fake the beheadings too? Is Daniel Pearl really alive somewhere. Hmmm, too much dope.
No you are right. Simply gather up YOUR family and let the next terrorist attack consume them. Then, we will try to round up the vermin and convict them in our criminal courts. Your taxes will pay for their defense.
See, how nice that is!
The guy is simply an empty suit. Sad, this is America's first half black POTUS. This will set blacks back more than the South did.
Hey, the Fkr just signed another book deal. When does he have time to write a book?????????? Aren't we paying him to run the country, is that not a full time job?
It's easy to write fiction. He can appoint someone to write in an hour.
Thanks for the belly laugh. I needed that !
Here is a thought that might make you cringe or give you a nightmare. Is he about to do something that would threatened his poll numbers so he need to milk everything he can now?
You go that right! WordPress is the easiest format to use for blogging. I just love it.
Strange…….. I typed like 4 or 5 paragraphs and you seemed to be focused in on the "commie criminal bankers" statement.
I was not aware these were code words. Thats just how I describe the killers.
What I meant by 911 was an inside job is that elements of our government were involved in pulling off one of the worst mass murders in history. They have it right on day time television and still are getting away with it.
Reminds one of the JFK assasination. So obvious yet no one can see it or is it…no one wants to see.
I must ask. Have you done any research into 9/11?
You said "sounds to me like that rabid lunatic Rexter is back and now calling himself "Mark"…; – ) "
I am a rabid lunatic when it comes to my country and the Bill of Rights and my name is Mark.
I refuse to let a handful of criminals turn my beautiful free America into a wire tapped political prison.
I only post in the hopes that some will take the inititive and do some investigation on there own.
Only thing this government seems to do right is over tax, over regulate, over spend, send our jobs overseas for slave labor and spy on the American people like we are doing something wrong.
It is going to end with or without your help.
Try to love your country instead of the government so much.
"Strange…….. I typed like 4 or 5 paragraphs and you seemed to be focused in on the "commie criminal bankers" statement. I was not aware these were code words. Thats just how I describe the killers."
It's not all that secret of a code, it's one of the excuses a certain Austrian corporal used to fire up a whole country to the point that gassing a whole lot of people to death was just fine. So whenever I see that phrase and variants of it, it tends leap off the page so to speak, to make me cranky and to wonder what the person that used them was going on about. If that's not how you meant it and you had no clue it was "code" then maybe you should do some research on things other than 9/11.
"Strange…….. I typed like 4 or 5 paragraphs and you seemed to be focused in on the "commie criminal bankers" statement. I was not aware these were code words. Thats just how I describe the killers."
It's not all that secret of a code, it's one of the excuses a certain Austrian corporal used to fire up a whole country to the point that gassing a whole lot of people to death was just fine. So whenever I see that phrase and variants of it, it tends leap off the page so to speak, to make me cranky and to wonder what the person that used them was going on about. If that's not how you meant it and you had no clue it was "code" then maybe you should do some research on things other than 9/11.
Those "elements of the government" you speak of- do they perchance happen to have big noses and appear to be clever with money?
Kudos that you can see the "obvious" conspiracy that no one else can..or wants to.
Which country is that exactly: Iran? Syria? Saudi Arabia?
Why are you so fearful of being wire-tapped, have the black helicopters been circling over the compound where you and your buddies live and wiretapping you folks (I can't imagine why)?
Yes, big words.
Sorry to have confused you, perhaps a dictionary would help. Or maybe your mommy can explain them to you.
And here's a hint – when attempting to impugn someone's intellect, it helps to actually spell the insult correctly, you moron.
Gads, you are definitely stupid.
Mark, assuming your tin-foil hat is adjusted correctly and you are accurately receiving the transmissions from your mother ship, I have questions for you:
What specifically is preznit karaoke doing to combat this incremental usurpation of our ability to dissent?
How does hr 1388 (the GIVE act) battle the creeping facism you are decrying?
How is legislation introduced to make newspapers non-profit government sponsored organizations further your goal of liberty?
LOL – MORAN!!!!! Damn that is priceless – oops – TEHSTUPID, let me clarify, priceless means that something is good or rare, not necessarily free as the term implies.
Way to go, Zig! Doing the media's job for them, as usual. I'm wondering how long the MSM will continue to ignore the elephant in the room. And are the Obama-Goggles they wear available in 3-D?
My tin-foil hat is adjusted correctly thanks.
I listed serveral documents in my other post that strangle peoples rights.
Just because nobody is kicking your door down now or is not allowing to speak freely does not mean that the foundation for a police state is not being built.
In the 1930's when hitler was making all his great laws people just like you said the same thing.
As far as HR 1388 that is a another terrible anti-constitutional bill. I am totally against it.
By your last comment it sounds as if you think I support Obama or the democrats.
I am not a republican(who knows what they stand for now) and I am not a democrat. I am an American and all I am concerned with is persevering freedom for or future gernerations. Like our fathers did before us.
The governement has gone rogue and it is our duty as American citizens to weed out these criminals and get them in jail.
P.S. I am going to fight for your rights whether you like it or not.
Funny
Are you saying that a normal organic fire that burns at max 600F to 800F can melt steel??
I cook my food on an electric stove. It turns red HOT. It does not bend or get mushy. Nope the pan stays on the the red hot burner and I can keep that thing on as long as I want without melting my stove top. Amazing!
I could make the same example with a fireplace. You could burn every forest in America under a steel beam an it still will not bend.
Steel melts at 2700 degress F. How in the world did it happen the way the government said it did?
NIST and FEMA did there tests. I guess you are not aware of the results where they rebuilt and exact duplicate of the WTC floor and even in there controlled fire room they could not get the trusses to fail. They used more alot more heat to. They wanted to fail so bad but it just wouldn't.
Most people that beleive a band of cave dwellers could get away with this incredible military feat are just plain not doing there homework.
That's cool man, I like blogs like that. One of my favorites is here: http://olbroad.com/ I bookmarked yours.
Remember John, we can't call him "president"..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs
Are you out of your mind…or were you 12 when Clinton was in office?? There was lots of cooperation during Clinton's term. Remember Welfare reform? Remember a balance budget…Pres. Clinton/Republican Congress?? All conservatives thought he was soft on defense, but libs always are so that was no surprise…he did gut the military which really proved to be a awful and treated attacks on us like it was a police problem. Each side spends their time trying to destroy the other side…then it was too bad but Clinton destroyed himself.
And, one of the main ones is at gitmo….duh
he worker may bbe tech savvy but king Obama is sttupid.he only wants his massive butget passed
There is noexcuse for being a total know-nothing ignoramus. God help us.
I hope that he will put the Gitmo things in his neighborhood.
I agree 100% the best way to deal with this is to weed out the BS if someone is cursing and spewing trash PLEASE DO NOT ANSWER THEM!!! I know it's easier said than done as I too have engaged the spammers. I have to admit it can actually be fun to throw an intellectual bomb onto the Huff post or MSNBC and I do it on a regular basis. The big difference I have found is that us conservatives usually throw out a fact or two that Liberals would love to forget like how Obama said no lobbyists or the fact that he has the most corrupt administration since Nixon. On the other hand the things the other side says are usually based in little or no fact whatsoever and usually come with the use of expletives and graphic description of what they would like to do to Bush and Cheney.
I agree 100% the best way to deal with this is to weed out the BS if someone is cursing and spewing trash PLEASE DO NOT ANSWER THEM!!! I know it's easier said than done as I too have engaged the spammers. I have to admit it can actually be fun to throw an intellectual bomb onto the Huff post or MSNBC and I do it on a regular basis. The big difference I have found is that us conservatives usually throw out a fact or two that Liberals would love to forget like how Obama said no lobbyists or the fact that he has the most corrupt administration since Nixon. On the other hand the things the other side says are usually based in little or no fact whatsoever and usually come with the use of expletives and graphic description of what they would like to do to Bush and Cheney.
And yet so many of these democrats voted in favor of the Iraq Liberation Act in 1998, introduced and backed by the Clinton Administration. This act advocated regime change in Iraq- that is, getting rid of Hussein.
Were the democrats being lied to by the Clinton Administration when Al Gore was "playing on their fears" by telling the legislative branch about Hussein's plans for WMDs?
You say:
"So tell me, if Clinton had gone to congress and said we need to go to war with these people you've never heard of, what would the response be?"
This Liberation Act was passed, and became official US Foreign policy. It passed at a time when the Senate and Congress were Republican controlled- so you have your answer.
This also puts the lie to your mindless mewling that the Republicans gave Clinton no support on any issue.
"One prominent senate Republican actually threated that Clinton would — and he meant should — be killed if he set foot on a Southern army base."
And which prominent senate Republican was that? Where did they say it? Who reported on it?
obama is a now a FEIHRUR when he has the power to fire Rick Wagnerr of GM. we common poeople are mad about this since only stoxcck holder can hire and fire a ceo. i guess he didnt wantt go along with Obama aand uaw plans!
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