NBC Performs Media Malpractice On ‘Media Malpractice’
by John ZieglerNext week I plan to write more extensively on Big Hollywood about the many bizarre behind the scenes occurrences and things learned during the initial media promotion tour for my new film “Media Malpractice… How Obama Got Elected and Palin Was Targeted.” However, one episode was so strange and important, that I need to briefly touch on it today.
This dealt with the set-up segment to my appearance on the “Today Show” (video below) yesterday. The “Today Show” was given exclusive access to the unreleased portions of my Sarah Palin interview and NBC reporter Norah O’Donnell was given these clips and chosen to do the story on the Palin interview that would air just before and lead into my interview with Matt Lauer.
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What O’Donnell chose to air was striking for two reasons. First, it so badly missed all the best Palin sound bites I can only conclude (despite any logic to this theory) that NBC did so on purpose. No one could be so incompetent as to take 43 minutes of great stuff and literally use the very first answer in the interview (which was hardly noteworthy) and none of the best clips. Second, O’Donnell’s editorial choices went out of their way to diminish and ignore Governor Palin’s very credible objections to very specific episodes of media malpractice. But the news media, especially NBC, trying to make Palin look bad is hardly new.
That NBC allowed Norah O’Donnell to do the piece to begin with is interesting. Last month when snippets of the Palin interview were released, she and I had a memorable on-air confrontation that did not go as planned.
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Even more extraordinary than this conflict of interest is that just after our confrontation, O’Donnell said on-air that that Palin had called Barack Obama a “terrorist.”
Now in a media world that was remotely sane, O’Donnell would have been fired for making such a false statement. Instead, she ends up dictating which Palin clips will be seen on the “Today Show,” the largest audience likely to ever see them. And while I was tempted to address this during my interview with Lauer, I refrained (a split-second decision I may end up regretting), and instead chose to confront O’Donnell directly when she interviewed me later in the day on MSNBC.
The video speaks for itself:
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To me, this tells you everything you need to know about why I had to make this film.
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What did anyone expect from NBC? They are totally in the tank for the Messiah. They have absolutely no credibility left.
"a media world that was remotely sane"
and here we have the answer as to why someone needed to do this movie in the first place.
I look forward to it! But please stick it to the uber-liberals by sticking to the facts; be the anti-Michael Moore in more ways than one
The color scheme for the graphics on MSNBC are Classic Obama Realism: light blue, dark blue, red and white. I think that's all we need to know about where they are coming from.
I want to add that you absolutely destroyed Nora O'Donnell in those clips but I don't think you did very well with Matt Lauer for some reason.
Zielger's kinda right–Palin only *implied* Obama was a terrorist with the phrase "pallin' around with terrorists," or at the least a terrorist sympathizer. Either way, it was slimy.
Seems to me, the media frenzy feed aims at whomever is a the top because that's what gets the ratings. So for awhile they could write nothing nice about Hillary Clinton. Then, when Obama picked up momentum, they focused on him and Wright. So then it was Palin's turn. Unfortunately, Palin, her aides, and the McCain campaign gave them plenty of fodder.
Still, I have a hard time feeling sympathetic for a political candidate who tried to play the press and pulled her family in the midst of the circus, and then whines that it didn't work and her family should've been out of bounds.
I think SNL is a more credible news source than MSNBC, hell, Sesame Street is a more credible news source….
It sickens me that people like Norah O'Donnell can look you in the face and deny they weren't in the Bash-Sarah-Palin business, and do it with a smile, what is wrong with these people???
And why the hell AREN'T there any skits on SNL breaking Obama's balls?? Have you seen that guy without a teleprompter?? My God!! There is a month's worth of skits right there!!
Boom. Roasted.
Are you serious? For all that time, Obama was on top. All those others were just temporary threats to him. Do you realize all the stories the MSM could have explored but didn't? How about just one– Where are your academic records, Senator Obama? Is there something in them you don't want to share? -Just one of 100 stories the media completely ignored.
The real story here is the media's complete failure to explore Barack Obama with anything remotely akin to criticism. That's why they are making this story, of Ziegler's documentary, about Sarah Palin. Because yes, they were unfair to her, but she has legitimate weaknesses, so they look kind of okay. John, I think you should make the story about Obama, not Palin.
John, either Nora is a gluton for punishment, or she has the hots for you… I suspect the latter, otherwise she's seriously disturbed.
I think your mistake is not challenging them right from the beginning with their graphic claiming this is all about Sarah Palin… it's not, it's about their worship of Barack Obama, to the point they would lie about his opponents, even Hilary was thrown under the bus so that they could glorify this puppet of Rahm Emanuels.
Sarah Palin is a ridiculous, stupid woman. Whiner. Bad mother. Etc. Politicians needs backbone, not flapping lips.
POOR BABY!
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response was there anything that could even be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul!
Then, when Obama picked up momentum, they focused on him and Wright.
I seem to recall the media never pressing Obama on how he told Newsweek he was at church every Sunday at 11 and then claimed never to hear any of Wright's rants. Usually they claimed (Alan Colmes was the best at this) that it was ridiculous to say Obama feels the same way Wright does and you can't blame Obama for everything his supporters say. The Wright videos were aired by Hannity a year before they exploded and the media only noticed when they had to.
Still, I have a hard time feeling sympathetic for a political candidate who tried to play the press and pulled her family in the midst of the circus, and then whines that it didn't work and her family should've been out of bounds.
I seem to recall a lot of pictures of the Obama children during the campaign and the networks never complained about that.
I will agree that the McCain camp was totally delinquent defending Palin and never did vigorously rebut the stupid things (banning books, charging for rape kits) that were used against her.
Im confused. Are you saying that media companies such as NBC or Fox News or Clear Channel actually promote their own agendas? Really? How old are you again? And let me get this straight, had America learned of the "real Palin" Obama would not have been elected? I didn't even know Palin was running for President. When did that happen? Finally let me ask you this, if NBC had been forthright and balanced in its reporting, then you wouldnt have had a movie to make–am I correct? In other words, you need NBC to be biased in order to create your own relvance. Its in your own interest that they be biased or you'd have no movie. Im going to do you a favor Big Hollywood readers and let you know something you obvioulsy havent figured out–rightly or wrongly, 60% of America can't stand Sara Palin and if conservatives continue to make her your poster girl you're gonna be pissing and moaning on Big Hollywood for years to come. Move on–the country has!
According to the polls, McCain was ahead right after the convention. I think the other thing y'all are missing is that Sarah Palin was new to the scene, and hadn't been "investigated" by the media yet. The risk McCain took was that Palin could energize the conservative core and hopefully bring in women and younger voters with her energy, and in some ways it backfired.
Scarlett, Your argument is well thought out – full of facts and crystal clear logic. Oh – you forgot to say Palin is a pooh pooh head.
NBC, at the top, has apparently made a business decision to appeal to the left. They make hardly an effort to seem balanced. The talking heads are simply saying what is given to them but Matt Lauer actually makes an unconsious effort to undermine anything close to a conservative thought – this is how his brain is wired and there is no changing it. All we can do is point out the glaring bias's and quit watching those shows. The Ozombies will continue to watch – that's were someone like Scarlett derives her power of reasoning.
You forgot to mention that her Today setup piece repeated the out of context video of Palin saying the troops were on a mission from God. PLEASE USE THAT IN YOUR FOLLOWUP! People don't understand how vulnerable civilizations are — we can lose it all. The Stasi is coming, then comes Sharia.
Wow, what a well-reasoned, thought-out position. You've completely changed my mind.
OMG Big Hollywood has been invaded by Obots!
This documentary is really threatening them! It must be good.
I love the ironic spectacle of liberals defending corporate media!
Lodo, this is mostly silly stuff. It's illogical to state that Palin wasn't running for President and then claim that America rejected HER in the election. Second, if NBC wasn't biased then John Ziegler would have made a different documentary. He doesn't need media bias, he simply chose it as the topic of this work.
Third, this "move on" crap is really tiresome – lefties only "move on" after they finally win something; when they lose they kick and scream and smash things until they can get their way again. Then they demand that everyone else act like the adults they are unwilling to ever become.
If they showed the first bit of the interview with Sarah Palin I'd put money on that it was because they didn't watch the rest. Are they going to have someone sit and watch 43 minutes of anything?
The one thing that the Nora O'donnells of the world will do to John Ziegler is make the conversation all about Tina Fey. This way they can write Ziegler off as saying SNL is "parody" and they've always lampooned politicians.
When it comes to bias, Tina Fey and SNL can be taken off the table.
The bias was when Brian Williams reads aloud Joe Klein's blog on the air after Palin's RNC speech.
Williams is supposed to be mainstream news anchor, but chooses to read a blog full of lies and distortions from a very partisan individual.
What did Brian Williams do after Obama's DNC speech (beside clean the drool coming out of his mouth)?
Norah is a Democratic shill. If she were Republican should would have been fired a long time ago just as Mr. Ziegler suggests. I like how she pretty much dismissed his accusation out of hand. She knows what she did and she got away with it, and continues to do so.
Where are your academic records, Senator Obama?
Thats right! President Obama just faked his way to a Harvard J.D. magna cum laude with a lot of help from affrimative action and Bill Ayers all the while never having his credentials examined by the Illinois State Bar, The State Department, the FBI or the NSA. A candidate like Palin who needed 6 colleges in 6 years was the one who got railroaded by the MSM!
John,
If it helps any, yesterday I went to your site and bought 2 copies of your Video.
1 for me, and the other for any of the MSM/Liberal deniers I will come across in my every day travels.
It’ll be worth it.
Not Over.
Ziegler's posting here now? AWESOME. Every time he does, I'll just link to this:
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200504/wallace
Mourn ya till we join ya DFW
I think over at MSDNC, they all have to start their day by watching Obama's 42 minute convention speech.
At this point, Oliberalmann and Matthews have "repainted" the walls with their "enthusiam"
"I seem to recall a lot of pictures of the Obama children during the campaign and the networks never complained about that."
No, but Obama did.
What's more, you have to admit that Palin's family was more controversial: a pregnant teen daughter, a downs syndrome baby…
I'm not defending everything the press covered about Palin, but I do think O'donnell's claims, and the idea that McCain would've won if not for the press, are overblown.
On " ‘MEDIA MALPRACTICE’ FILMMAKER BLASTS MSNBC ANCHOR FOR FALSE PALIN ACCUSATION"
Wow. Where do you start? First there was the way she laughed (a hearty ha-ha-ha) at your initial criticism (she ducked later criticism also). How is SNL showing media bias, she asks unknowingly. How can you respond to this?Is she saying SNL is not media? DId she actually say under her breath (about SNL), "it's cartoons…"? Glad you were able to use the time to get some plugs in for your site, she may not have done it for you.
Sorry, but I have to say the 'people are stupid' line made me wince a little.
'Good to see ya, buddy'. I think she was trying her hand at sketch-comedy acting with that statement. The blurring of the line continues.
Sojourner and scarlett- was not aware axelrod was still paying for astroturfers. You get benefits too?
sojourner said:
"Palin only *implied* Obama was a terrorist with the phrase "pallin' around with terrorists," or at the least a terrorist sympathizer. Either way, it was slimy."
Ayers was and is a terrorist. So by your estimation, telling the truth is slimy? Or to put it in terms you might understand, it's "double plus ungood"? Interesting.
"I think the other thing y'all are missing is that Sarah Palin was new to the scene, and hadn't been "investigated" by the media yet."
And the thing you are missing is that obama has still not been "investigated" by the media yet. Double standards much, hypocrite?
lodo said:
"let you know something you obvioulsy havent figured out–rightly or wrongly, 60% of America can't stand Sara Palin"
According to what, a poll taken by Unicorns Monthly magazine? Rightly or wrongly, 95% of Big Hollywood's readership consider you an empty skulled dolt.
Ah, me…. the more jugears the stupid screws the pooch, the more the astroturfing obots flock to boards like this to spin the fables about Palin's unsuitability. Tsk tsk- not even two months in, and the moron horde is hearing footsteps.
Hope and change, my achin' arse.
FRAUD. FAILURE.
Davey, you completely lost the argument because you misspelled poo-poo.
Pooh (with the H) is a bear, poo (minus the H) is … well what the bear does in the woods.
So it doesn't matter what else you ever say … ever… you lose because you misspelled one minor word. Obviously anyone that misspells poo-poo can't have a valid opinion on anything and is obviously a shill for the GOP.
(there, do I have the liberal "debate" style down pat yet?)
No need to. Just ask the Scaife-funded lemming how he feels about Nate Silver. Now there's some decorum.
John, I was a huge fan when you were at KFI. Since you left, I find KFI nearly un-listenable. I am really proud and happy for your success with this documentary, and you aquit yourself so very well in these ridiculous interviews.
I'm looking forward to your future endeavors, and thanks for all you have done for conservatives, and Sarah Palin in particular!
Ahhh, so you are going to be annoying. Typical liberal!
Considering the outcome of last year's election, the MSM's stupid agenda is a disservice to society. It would be nice to get the news without someone's opinion getting in the way. Either that, or the least they could do is be upfront about it.
What's so tragic is that people like you think it's okay for these powerful institutions to have an agenda, an agenda that can (and has) shaped the outcome of our elections. If they were in the tank for the Republicans, people like you would be shrieking about a conspiracy and such nonsense. But because they're for your guy, it's okay for them to have an agenda and be biased. No problem.
As for moving on, maybe you should tell that to all the Palin haters who keep harping on and on about how stupid she is. I've seen plenty of them who still haven't been able to move on. Maybe you should take your own advice.
Got to agree Suzie… up until you hit the "people are stupid" line, John, you had her on the defensive time, John. She was avoiding answers you gave , and trying to twist your comments (and failing). You hit that '…stupid' line, and her eyes lit up saying "See , we got your soundbite now… you're dead meat".
Got to agree Suzie… up until you hit the "people are stupid" line, John, you had her on the defensive time,.. She was avoiding answers you gave , and trying to twist your comments (and failing). You hit that '…stupid' line, and her eyes lit up saying "See , we got your soundbite now… you're dead meat".
Nah, just pointing and laughing. Palin will always have die-hard fans with deep fantasies of a woman that never existed.
Reporters will never give good press to any conservative. Conservatives must take a page from Reagan and simply talk over and around the press. Palin is the real deal and it scares the hell out of the left, and all lovers of government both side of the aisle. Our problem is Washington, all of these idiots love government the only difference is by degree. Good luck with your documentary, I look forward to watching it.
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The very best thing about this election season just past is that only the actively deluded – those with their fingers in their ears going, "La, la, la, la, la; I can't hear you!" – have even a shadow of a doubt left that the MSM are absolutely biased, in-the-tank leftards now. It's a great litmus test, it really is. If you encounter anyone who listens to the paleo-media anymore, you can be 100% certain that they are stark, raving mad. It's as good as a tattoo on a woman: When I see that tattoo, it tells me EVERYTHING I NEED TO KNOW about that chick, so I don't have to, you know, waste any time on her. Likewise with anyone who listens to the lame-stream media anymore: They are exposed as irretrievably lost anyway, so I can just blow them off.
I like things that make my life easier, so keep getting those tats, girls!
Nora a DNC shill? On MSNBC? That's "breaking news!" John, I saw you on Oreilly last night. Good job, however lately, Bill O seems a tad more snarky about everything. Nevertheless, you're a lone wolf, going into the belly of the beast with a reasonable argument. They can only try to discredit you, since their talking points are usually myopic and lame. How dare you give video proof! To quote "A Few Good Men" – "they can't handle the truth." Good luck and I look forward to seeing the video.
John
I saw you with this newsreader yet again yesterday. Well Done! Why is it she never answered your question about saying that Gov. Palin had called Obama a terrorist. Thing that make you go Hummmmm…
The same could be said for Kerry. He never published his military records either. Bush was not running on his military record, but Kerry was.
Sew trew, sew trew. U r sew rite.
Let's connect the dots. Ayers, domestic terrorist. Obama, acquintance of Ayers. Ayers, pal of Obama. Obama there for is "paling around with terrorists". The plural is legitimate, Mrs.Terrorist is Bernadette Dorn, right? Do I have her name correct?
No, telling the truth is not slimy. Exaggerating the relationship between Obama and a man who a terrorist forty years ago is slimy.
There were lots of articles about Obama and his background in the past two years. Sure, they didn't tell the story you wanted to hear ("Obama was born in Kenya, raised in a madrassa, helped Ayers roll dynamite sticks which killed thousands, falisified his academic records which show he was sponsored by Gorbachev, Ayers wrote Obama's memoirs, and Obama spends his spare time plotting with Wright, Ayers, and CAIR on how he's going to turn the U.S. into a communist paradise"), but to pretend that the Press and the public gave Obama a complete pass while conspiring to destroy Palin shows the blinders you're wearing.
Well said! Obamabots love their messiah and their government and will hit their knee’s at the sound of his soothing voice. To a leftist to grovel is honor, to beg is divine. Why work if one can plunder, if a parasitic life your ultimate goal. A remarkable, self made, individualist like Sarah Palin is counterintuitive to their victims pride, and must be destroyed at all cost. Always remember the leftist creed, what’s in it for me?
And Barack's refusing to have any of those grand accomplishments examined by an objective eye is yet another example of his grand humility. In fact, I wish to personally thank Barack for only leaving enough written records of his life that could fill the inside of a matchbook cover. It is just a few less things to interupt my worship of him.
John, I was at my gym and saw your interview with Norah O'Donnell. Could she have been any more defensive? Why on earth do you waste your time with these insipid shows? The people who are going to watch your documentary don't intentionally watch MSNBC or the Today Show, not without plenty of alcohol beforehand.
http://the100mostannoyingthings.blogspot.com/
I don't remember ANYONE saying McCain would have won if it weren't for the tingly orgasmic press coverage that Obama enjoyed for 2 years. What they are saying is that the press was and IS still in the tank for this guy. They would have crucified Bush for half the gaffes of Biden or Obama. Obama got free campaign coverage. I don't remember him being asked one tough question. Or at least to the extent of the "gotcha" interrogations that Palin received – and she was the VP candidate. Not the main guy. The argument here isn't whether McCain would have won – he was a bad candidate and I'm glad his attempts at the WH are done – but that they are so blatantly biased to the Democratic Party that Helen Keller could see it. But they still, as Norah said, view themselves as objective when the anchors on their network have to go pull a bone because of the tingles they're getting in His presence.
Hey, his own bio here brags about being the subject of that piece, it's only fair people should read it.
"Zielger's kinda right–Palin only *implied* Obama was a terrorist with the phrase "pallin' around with terrorists," or at the least a terrorist sympathizer. Either way, it was slimy."
How is the truth "slimy"?
Get 'em, John. Wish half our guys had cojones your size!
The organized campaign against Palin was the other side of the coin. It's impossible to make the story without her. But I agree, it's the side that offers an easier foothold for those who wish to dispute it.
Except that Fox is, you know, a real news organization.
Unlike PMSNBC.
How do you know she was a bad mother? Do you have a crystal ball? If so, can you tell me who's going to win the series between the Rockets and the Trail Blazers this week? I'm desperate to make SOME money in this crappy economy.
It was the press who dragged Sarah Palin's family into the spotlight.
Nice try on the strawman, sojourner.
I did not and never have said any of the nonsense you attributed falsely to me, but congratulations nonetheless on decisively defeating these never stated allegations. Perhaps there is a windmill or two in your future that you could defeat in a superb display of jousting?
What I wanted to see was in depth coverage of Obama's mismanagement of annenburg challenge funds, how hud monies under his control resulted in a notable degradation of the projects he was tasked to improve, his nonexistent voting record in the Illinois state senate, the large amounts of money he took from fanny/freddy and various investment banks, his complete lack of introducing and passing ANY legislation while spending those momentous 120 odd days in the US Senate, his affiliation with Acorn including the probono legal work he performed for them, his uh- interesting real estate discounts that happened here in Chicago and so on.
But I understand how the breathless and near round the clock coverage of Palin's PTA meetings, her firing of a drunk state trooper, her amniotic fluid, out of context footage of her quoting from a Lincoln speech, incorrect charges of her "banning" books, and how much her campaign trail clothes cost was of far more importance to the average voter. She was, after all, running as Vice President.
To try to pretend that the press did anything near a proper investigation of the empty suit infesting our white house shows one of two things- you are still getting paid by Axelrod to spew such demented babble, or you are delusional to the point of needing to be institutionalized.
I say again…. FRAUD. FAILURE.
Ummm, pulling their family into the campaign? How many magazine covers were Sasha, Michelle and Malia on during the campaign? I can think of three right off…
And it was Obama first, before Palin entered the race that whined and said families should be left out of it. I think it was right after Michelle was taken to task for saying that this was the first time she was proud of her country.
Not a complete pass, but a 90% discount on all routine election cycle scrutiny that is due a presidential candidate. Trust me, if the guy wasn't young, suave, black, and liberal, the media consensus would have been, "Wait, a 40 something with no executive experience for the highest executive position in the land? Maybe we should have a national dialogue about this!" Instead, he appeared on (literally) ten covers on Time.
Regarding your parade of straw men and dynamite sticks: It is documented fact that Bill Ayers participated in domestic terrorism, he was a very good friend of the Obamas, and that is a problem because that is a voluntary relationship that most people in this country — liberal or conservative — would never engage in, much less an American statesman.
So where are they? Why not show us President Brilliant's Occidental College records, for example? Why not release the tape of Obama with Khalidi? You miss the point. It's not because of bad grades. It's because his past reveals his radicalism. And the American people might get confused and think he's a Communist or something. They don't understand academia like you and I. So let's just give them a simple thing to contemplate: "Where hope finally made a comeback." And the media happily went along with this.
Not a complete pass, but a 90% discount on all routine election cycle scrutiny that is due a presidential candidate. Trust me, if the guy wasn't young, suave, black, and liberal, the media consensus would have been, "Wait, a 40 something with no executive experience for the highest executive position in the land? Maybe we should have a national dialogue about this!" Instead, he appeared on (literally) ten covers of Time magazine.
Regarding your parade of straw men and dynamite sticks: It is documented fact that Bill Ayers participated in domestic terrorism, he was a very good friend of the Obamas, and that is a problem because that is a voluntary relationship that most people in this country — liberal or conservative — would never engage in, much less an American statesman.
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Yea, and it's a classic political tactic. You escape a scandal by focusing on something irrelevant or some less consequential aspect of the scandal. It's the media's job to call politicians out on this. Instead, most of the media directly engaged in this activity on behalf of their favored political candidate.
So, instead of talking about Ayers/Wright/etc., they would raise the question: "How does the McCain campaign bringing up Ayers/Wright reflect on his candidacy?" or some such derivative, self-referential, irrelevant nonsense. They ask "Does this help or hurt John McCain?" which obviously implies that it hurts him. Well, why does it hurt him? Because this is the way they talk about it: without addressing the question.
The same was true of Joe the Plumber. It wasn't, "What did he ask, how did Obama respond, and what does this mean about Obama?" They could have been talking about those things without Joe already. Him bringing up this question was unwelcome. But since it was obviously a news event, they had to cover it. How did they choose to cover it? Through irrelevant distractions: who is Joe the Plumber?
Wow, I can tell you're from Chicago. I could have written the same email. People who've seen Obama up close for at least 15 years (and still remember him saying there was "no difference" between him and Bobby Rush) know all to well the sleazy people he's worked with (without a single complaint) his entire career. Whether politicians or people who've made their living by hanging at the fringes of politics, this guy was only to happy to take money and favors (then later return them) from ANYONE, regardless of their reputations and tactics.
He got elected through backdoor methods (every time), never supported reform, chose Blagojevich over Vallas (and we all know how honest Blago is), and generally did nothing during his time here, other than set himself up for higher office. People from other areas of the country have a completely false impression of him, and it's maddening.
Wow, I can tell you're from Chicago. I could have written the same post. People who've seen Obama up close for at least 15 years (and still remember him saying there was "no difference" between him and Bobby Rush) know all to well the sleazy people he's worked with (without a single complaint) his entire career. Whether politicians or people who've made their living by hanging at the fringes of politics, this guy was only to happy to take money and favors (then later return them) from ANYONE, regardless of their reputations and tactics.
He got elected through backdoor methods (every time), never supported reform, chose Blagojevich over Vallas (and we all know how honest Blago is), and generally did nothing during his time here, other than set himself up for higher office. People from other areas of the country have a completely false impression of him, and it's maddening.
Norah O'Donnell = Leftist Tool Fool
John,
I ordered a copy of 'Media Malpractice' on Saturday and look forward to viewing it. I wish you all the best in the work you're doing. It's fun watching you go toe to toe with these journalistic giants as you're out there promoting your film.
Continued success.
I see. And you learned all of this by yourself, did you? Wasn't covered by the media at all? 'sfunny, because I know what "scandals" you are talking about, so somebody must have reported them.
Oh, and let's be honest about something else–Palin overshadowed McCain in the campaign. Many, many conservatives said they were voting for Palin, not McCain (Check the Free Republic archives if you doubt me.)
But again, while I don't think the charges of media bias against Palin are completely unfounded, they were overblown.
I forgot to make this point: Yes, the attack on Palin is the other side of the coin. But it's the more defensible side. Dragging an unorthodox VP candidate through the mud is far more defensible than completely failing to examine the favorite to be POTUS.
That's why MSNBC, for example, framed their Ziegler interview with Palin clips, put Palin blurbs on the bottom of the screen, and asked him questions entirely about Sarah Palin.
I think the more honorable media professionals are a little ashamed at how they softballed Obama, but they are all very proud of their treatment of Palin.
Bush's military record shows that as a pilot he inherently had a much greater chance of serving in Vietnam as other National Guardsmen. Plus flying military jets is dangerous…duh. There was also a story that Bush did volunteer for a duty that would've taken him to Vietnam.
But what about Obama's military record…that's what I want to know!
Yeah, you just happened to have that around.
What a coincidence.
We know how this works. The paid trollbots attack the messenger because they can't debate the issue.
Almost all of those "straw men" were reported as fact by leading conservative news sources (although I made up the bit about Obama rolling dynamite sticks). I'd provide citations, but I don't have the time. The "Madrassa" bit was reported by FOX news, just as an example. I'm not sure if it was ever retracted
I'm not sure I'd agree with you about the shunning of Dick Ayers. As Oliver North once said, "the best you can do in the judicial system is 'Not Guilty.'" And I think 40 years of nonviolence and community participation makes up for his acts as a 20-year-old. It was, at least in my opinion, a non-issue that attempted to slime Obama by association, rather than talk about issues people care about.
Well, I'm guessing you're not getting an invite back on Norah's show any time soon. I'll be honest and say that I didn't like your interview with Lauer. I thought you came off defensive and unfocused. You should have a list of offenses handy that involve interviewers or someone on their station you can use to point out specific incidents. The thing about the media forwarding the, "Palin is an idiot" mantra doesn't work because it's unprovable (although I agree). You're better off citing examples that can't be disputed, like Brian Williams reading an untrue accusation from a blogger on his news show (or Norah's comment about Palin). Personally, I'd always mention the NY Times piece talking about how sexy Obama's pecs are without his shirt on.
I'm sure the folks who already agree with you won't mind anything you do to attack the MSM, but if you want to reach the ones whose minds could be changed, you need to tighten up your message. Confrontation might make give the interview great sound bites, but it doesn't portray you as an impartial journalist with a story to tell.
Thats just outright oxygen theivery on the part of both of you.
Did it ever occur that if Barry Hussein X is the dangerous radical / stealth muslim / academic cheatin'-neegruh you make him out to be that maybe some of the agencies of the federal government I cited might raise some concern, given that they have more access to his background than some dead-end bloggers?
Of course not.
Because reality (and lack thereof) is no obstacle to your thinking. In fact, it just makes you double down. If anything, there will soon be an argument here that 'proves' there is an ever widening conspiracy that includes planet Earth, Them and Obama.
The media bias is so bad that if Obama was sacrificing babies in the fire to worship Baal, the headline would read, "Obama makes sure that underpriviliged kids keep warm this winter".
Alright…you had 8 years of time in which liberals were shut down at every turn and zealot hacks like Ann Coulter were given prominent airspace. So as for "equal opportunity" – don't complain. How about their accountability? Being touted for books that are direct attacks ("If Democrats Had Brains They'd Be Republicans" – how is that at all objective literature?)? I'll hold my party accountable when there are problems, will you? Or do you prefer the pitchfork the enemy approach?
No, but Obama did.
Obama took his family to Montana for his daughter's 10th birthday during the July 4th holiday and to use them in campaign commercials and People magazine. To paraphrase David Shuster, it seemed he was very capable of pimping out his family.
I'm not sure if the Palin family was 'controversial' as much as normal for a family with teenagers. If having a DS child is controversial we have really sunk pretty low.
Okay, I re-read the "straw men" post. I exaggerated a lot there, mostly to make the point that there were plenty of negative Obama stories and mis-stories floating around and reported in the media. If I had the time, what I should've done was get some citations. Yeah, sarcasm doesn't get you too far around here.
And Brisco, there were many issues, in my opinion, that should've been up for a national dialogue, but McCain/Palin, in my opinion, took the low road and tried to impugn Obama's character instead of addressing the issues.
And the press in general loves a good mudfight, especially when they get to supply the water and the dirt.
Dawn:
You are so correct about Obama using his family.
Talk about passive/aggressive.
First, "Leave my family alone. I'm the one running for president."
Then, "I'm here in Montana with my family for the July 4th holiday. Hey, come interview me and take some heartwarming pictures of my family."
Hey…you say "potatoe" I say "potato"…
Gotta keep pointing this out and putting their hypocrisy out there for everyone to see. To tell you the truth, I have found few Obama supporters in my travels. I think the dissillusionment is sinking in now that he is showing his true colors. And the more we name names, the better off we are in the future. After all, if it wasn't for Charles @ LGF, Dan Rather would be a cult hero instead of the exposed Bush-hating buffoon that he proved himself to be.
Thats right, buddy. We're on orders to mock silly impotent little rightbloggers until the commenters shake their tiny fists and perpetuate backwater myths as if we give a sh*t what you "think" to be true.
Now where's my gold Cadillac and dividend check?
I wish I was surprised. Between your film and Bernie Goldberg's book, we have them dead to rights. But are the voters paying any attention? I fear not.
CAUTION: Astorturfer next 5 miles.
Well, the pregnant teenager bit becomes controversial when the candidate's party stand is to teach only abstinence (can't remember what Palin's view on that was), and that the assumed Republican line on single girls getting pregnant is "irresponsibility" and "where were her parents?"
Trig's birth wasn't controversial, but it isn't the norm, which is why it naturally provoked a lot of interest, (and I'll agree that much of the attention was inappropriate.)
8 years?! What planet have you been living on? Last time I checked Ann Coulter was among the conservatives shouted down on "The View," just like John McCain. And don't even get me started on how many times I've heard Ann referred to as "Man Coulter" over the last 8 years. The left does like their name calling– and the left invented the "pitchfork the enemy approach." Granted, "The View" isn't mainstream news, but their "Obama is sexy" approach definitely reflects the "thrill up the leg" mentality of the mainstream media.
Liberals shut down?! Give me a break. Your comment is so ridiculous it's insane. Clearly there are some conservatives who get a chance to speak and plenty who write books. This is not about that Ryan. It is about the media. It's the newspapers and the news anchors – almost all of which are so liberal they can't see staright. This would be fine if they didn't let it reflect on their profession. I'd lose my job if I let my political leanings dictate everything I do. The media reports every story unfairly, as it bests suits them. They have been doing this for a lot longer than the past eight years that you mentioned, but keeps getting stronger and stronger every day. Thank goodness for somebody like john Zeigler stepping up to he plate. He absolutely tore Norah and nbc news apart. It was fantastic. And he did it with the TRUTH!
Hey Ryan, last I checked, Ann Coulter is a conservative author who makes her money writing inflamatory OPINION! She has never passed herself off as a news anchor. The job of which is to report the news in an unbiassed fashion. At that point the dumbed down viewer has the responsibillity to form an opinion. To answer your question, I think a pitchfork is about the only thing most clueless liberals understand.
It wasn´t as slimy as actually pallin´ around with terrorists. If Bill Ayers is a terrorist – and by every definition he is, albeit retired now – then that is an accurate description of what Obama was doing. They were undeniably "pals". Not an isolated case either. Obama had several relationships with anti-American radicals. You want that subject to be taboo, but it is what it is.
Shorter Paul D: The guy just wanted to be president. Asking questions about his past is RACIST.
"8 years of time in which liberals were shut down at every turn". Are you talking when the National Guard occupied the NY Times building after they printed nat'l security secrets? Or when the police arrested Cindy Sheehan and the Code Pinkers protesting at GWB's private residence? Nah, you must mean when the FCC recinded the broadcast licenses of CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN & MSNBC after they criticized the Bush girls, right? No? Then it's gotta be when the FBI confiscated every known copy of that film that ruminated on asassinating GWB! I figure it's gotta be one of them. And where is it written that all opinion journalism be objective? Ann Coulter sells books because a whole lot of people like a whole lot of what she writes about. That old supply and demand thing. I'm sure you've heard of it.
And in case you weren't paying attention, and judging your opening assertion I don't think you were, GWB got tons of criticism from the right for, among other things, Medicare expansion, No Child Left Behind, Harriet Myers, Comprehensive Immigation overhaul, TARP I, and on and on. So let's hear some of that "holding my party accountable" criticism on things like Messers Dodd and Frank playing footsie with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the attempt to undermine the Iraq troop surge, the nonsense about our Guantanamo "gulag", etc. Got the snerdley's for that?
Liberals definitely can´t get Palin out of their system. And they keep bringing up Joe the Plumber, as if he was some sort of criminal. And then they tell us to "get over it"? By all means! Let´s talk about corrupt Democrats. It´ll be a long night.
Ayers' group was planning the murder of innocent soldiers before they blew themselves up ( karma's a bitch).
Yes, a douche like Ayers should have been shunned.
And if your idea of community participation is helping to ruin Chicago's schools
then you need serious help…..or a better supervisor because your script is weak.
What a great wrap up to the splintered last week John! I had missed the clip on BreitbartTV – AWESOME!
She looked like she was going to throw up! And your held back smirk when she didn't reply was hilarious!
She thinks people are smart enough to know that it's a parody – So, new headline:
"Norah O’Donnell calls Barbara Walters Stupid"
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=272343&comments=1
It is very typical of the left to attempt to squash an argument by casting its source in a negative light. What you are doing is called a "genetic fallacy." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy
Yeah, Ziegler seems to be a weird guy (or at least that is his schtick). But how about instead of posting an article about Ziegler every time he posts, you read his arguments and address them? if you want to be a liberal or a conservative, fine–but strive for intellectual honesty either way.
Mr. Zigler : Saw you on O'Really? last night and was impressed by both of you. Impressed with what a obstinate dolt Bill is. However you are my latest political hero, taking a spot next to Rick Santelli. I hope to see you around for years to come, Conservatives certainly need effective media personal, especially visual media.
Your response is completely out of proportion to my comment. You are just looking for trouble. And so you will be ignored.
We need this.
If you maintain that Bill Ayers is still a terrorist, then G. Gordon Liddy is still a perjurer and co-conspirator to attempted murder, and Oliver North is still a perjurer and conservatives should have nothing to do with either of them, either.
It has always fascinated me, the way someone is considered "tainted' because of some relationship that may or may not have been significant–this happens on both sides. The Ayers relationship was blown way out of proportion to what it was.
I'm well aware of that. Which is why it concerns me when she is a consistent guest on what is supposed to be a balanced news program, with no treal time given to the counterpart. Also, it's called an example. I wasn't basing my entire argument on Ann Coulter being real news. I know she isn't real news. So why is she given so much credence on a news show? That was my point.
John: I thank you from the bottom of my heart for putting your reputation on the line and doing this interview with Gov. Palin. Outstanding work and I applaud your ethical and moral fiber.
I would love for you to do whatever research is necessary to clarify Barack Obama's birthplace. I personally believe he was born in Kenya and that he should not be President. Secrets create mystery and many Americans would like this mystery solved. Thank you
1. Al Franken's book was directed at a specific person – Rush Limbaugh – not an entire party and its voters. If you listen to most liberal "attacks", they try not to say "Republicans" unless it's a situation like the stimulus bill – where the Republican party was attempting to block the bill as a whole. They keep their attacks to those who deserve it. Bush, well that's obvious. Alberto Gonzalez – "Washington and Lincoln used electronic surveillance"? Wiretapping peoples' homes? Give me a break. Cheney. People like that. So don't even attempt to compare the two. I'm not saying Franken or Michael Moore are perfect. So when you have an opinionated bimbo shouting remarks about anyone who votes a certain way, that's completely unbalanced. And when did Michael Moore harm this country? Give me three examples.
2. Hear of AirAmerica? Liberal talk show hosts were given one public radio station that doesn't get much reception in most areas. I'm fairly sure that while you can hear Limbaugh's radio show nationwide, AirAmerica is quite a bit harder to come by.
You know, I want to take this seriously, I really do. But then I remember the knee-capping Nate Silver gave Ziegler, and better still? The way he reduced him in size afterward by printing a transcript of John's hissy-fit during a follow-up phone exchange.
I don't know. After that? It's hard not just to laugh, and move on.
The View has a Conservative member – Elisabeth Hasselback. Granted, it's not an equal playing field but she is given a voice. Coulter is off-the-walls crazy. And Obama's already done quite a bit for the country and the country's image around the world, which is something with which our last decider didn't seem to concern himself much. For example, closing Guantanamo Bay. Pushing for equal pay for women. You can say Obama is a celebrity and this and that, but perhaps you should see what he's doing before throwing stones at him. Hmm. There's a thought.
Mr.Zigler,
Just ordered your new DVD and want to thank you for your work in exposing the MSM as an activist arm of the democratic party.
Your videos on Obama voters was very telling also and showed the direct effect that channeling political opinion through sources like MTV,Comedy channel,late night talk shows,and movies in conjunction with news programs has spread liberal propaganda like a virus.
Your work and Brietbart's (Hollywood Interrupted was very informative and eye opening)is very important in working to bring objectivity and accountability to journalism.
Norah came across as a high school girl that just got caught cheating on her boyfriend. Defensive,whiny,and manipulating the facts because the truth shows her to be guilty of being just another Obama follower on her knees.
As a side note,I thought you handled Lauer very well and gave no quarter.
These liberal activist need to be exposed and put in their place on a regular basis just like you did.
Good work and I look forward to watching the video and encouraging others to purchase it and do the same.
HAHAHAHAHA!!! no really….Just curious. What constitutes whining? I didn't see any whining going on .I saw someone relating her experiences and her opinions. Whining–that I saw in booking when people were arrested for drunk driving.. " want my lawyyyyyyerrr! I have to use the bathhhhhhrrrrooom. I know my riiiiiiiiights. I'll have your baaaaaaadge." Stupid? Gotta challenge you on that one. She's running a state–a state that is in better financial condition than California for crying out loud. Backbone? She has shown tremendous backbone by subjecting herself AGAIN to scruitiny of people like you by doing this film. Bad mother? You know, and help me with this one here, you can only teach a child only so much before the child decides for itself. Regarding Trig: Wow! What a mindless, stupid thing to criticise someone for–daring to show a DS kid in public. Think for yourself once in awhile.
I said Ayers is a retired terrorist. Unrepentant, unpunished. I also said he is not the only one. That´s not debatable.
If Ayers is ok with you, why not Liddy? Or do you like them both the same? No? I bet it´s "Ayers good, Liddy bad". Right?
Matt Lauers expression as he was introducing the piece was very telling. He really didn't want to go where he was having to go.
On the media, which is what we are discussing here, they are obviously biased. On politians, Gov. Palin is the most believable of the bunch. I lost my innocence when I voted for President Carter who was going to clean up Washington. Gov. Palin has a passion we relate to. We want to believe she is sincere. She says what we believe.
What? Authors can´t be on news programs without a counterpart? That´s new. Does only Ann Coulter need a counterpart or all authors? What about novelists? They can have agendas! What about people who have written a memoir? You could invite their in-laws for balance.
Not knowing anything more about a candidate than his race is racist. He is not the first black president, his mother was white, he is the first bi-racial president, see how they twist even the minute of details.
Like you said, "not an even playing field…" I think "The View" is a pretty good representation of Liberal vs. Conservative media. If we even get that much in our favor. And regarding media bias, I wasn't throwing stones at Obama, just the media. I used to work in television, and trust me, there is no great moral center in the industry or any qualms about character assassination of someone they don't like. Heck, that's standard procedure.
Hey Coulter is like a lazer beam cutting up liberals! She slices and dices them up surgically. They go into total flustered mode when she fires up. It's great sport to watch a lawyer use her skills to emasculate liberals. (I'm including Joy Behar in that, she MIGHT be a drag queen, don't know, just saying…)
John,
Excellent work.
You are hereby formally bestowed with the official "Ernie Mannix's -Tip of the Spear" award.
Do us proud and keep poking them.
John,
Excellent work.
You are hereby formally bestowed with the official Ernie Mannix "Tip of the Spear" award.
Do us proud and keep poking them.
They aren't news shows. they discuss, i.e. debate the news. She doesn't do the Nightly News. The problem with NBC, it's evil spawn MSNBC and the like is that it's hard to tell when they stop reporting their version of the news and begin the commentary. It's like AP, I'll pick up a newspaper, and SWEAR I'm reading an op/ed and it's on the FRONT PAGE! I wonder why newspapers are dying?
These aren't news shows. they discuss, i.e. debate the news. She doesn't do the Nightly News. The problem with NBC, it's evil spawn MSNBC and the like is that it's hard to tell when they stop reporting their version of the news and begin the commentary. It's like AP, I'll pick up a newspaper, and SWEAR I'm reading an op/ed and it's on the FRONT PAGE! I wonder why newspapers are dying?
These aren't news shows. they discuss, i.e. debate the news. Coulter doesn't do the Nightly News. The problem with NBC, it's evil spawn MSNBC and the like is that it's hard to tell when they stop reporting their version of the news and begin the commentary. It's like AP, I'll pick up a newspaper, and SWEAR I'm reading an op/ed and it's on the FRONT PAGE! I wonder why newspapers are dying?
These aren't news shows. they discuss, i.e. debate the news. Coulter doesn't do the Nightly News. The problem with NBC, it's evil spawn MSNBC and the like, is that it's hard to tell when they stop reporting their version of the news and begin the commentary. It's like AP, I'll pick up a newspaper, and SWEAR I'm reading an op/ed and it's on the FRONT PAGE! I wonder why newspapers are dying?
Reality, as you put it is that we haven't been able to look at any of his transcripts.
I don't think UselessDiss was calling it a conspiracy in any way shape or form.
It's certainly is not transparency. We know less about Obama than any other president in my life time.
Don't confuse the proletariate with the fact that FLYING VIETNAM ERA JETS was extremely dangerous. So, while he was screwing around accumulating about 400 hours (which is alot) he must have been getting stupider (is that a word?) by the minute. According to the main stream press and Olver Stone that is EXACTLY what happened. If it's in the paper it must be the truth.
your nonsensical statement did make me laugh I've gotta give you at least one point for that. You should probably go back to posting on youtube though. Isn't Obama loved mainly because of his flapping lips?
Perhaps the biggest Media Failure is this:
In 1989 Obama gets an internship at Sidley Austin LLP Law Firm.
Guess who works there?
Michelle Robinson .. she is his mentor and future wife.
Guess who else works there?
Bernadine Dohrn
Guess who got Obama his job there?
William Ayers
Wow! Your K Mart Bluelight Special education shines bright in that statement!
You're missing the point. The news wasn't slanted, it was straight up propaganda. It was an unprecedented, concerted effort.
Ultimately, this is highly detrimental to the entire country, and is something that even liberals should be disturbed by. Everyone should be fearful of how this erodes a critical component of the democratic process.
Under your logic we should hate doctors as well because with out say cancer there would be no need for Oncologist and Oncologists are merely opportunists who should be thanking cancer for it's very existanc. I don't think anyone other than the media has made the assertion that Palin would inevitably be the President because McCain would die in office. I would have to disagree with your notion that 60% of America can't stand Palin. Where's the love?
With in 24 hours of her being named to the ticket the Dem opposition research people were in Alaska looking for dirt. Local and state operatives were there to meet them and show them which way to look. As you remember, ex-brother in law idiot trooper, banning books, blah, blah, blah. Now Palin has 4 years to endure and over come the scruitiny. If she can hack it, she will a viable candidate, if not, no. I bet she handles things fine. I get a kick out of people that criticize her academic record. So what? Maybe it's time Yale and Harvard take some time off, I mean the track record is just mah-velous!
Lodo, this is the reason for this movie. A large majority of Americans decide on how to vote based on the media coverage. Everyone I know all stated they would vote for Palin as POTUS. Many people did not vote that direction because they felt that McCain was the wrong choice.
I'll second that, let's talk about corrupt Democrats. I saw some strange report of around 800 cases of physical abuse by teachers on students, in the crazy Blagojavich sphere of influence.
The reason Air America didn't get much reception in the market was because it wasn't a good product. It had nothing to do with content. There were no barriers of entry into the market. The production just sucked.
"Coulter is off-the-walls crazy".
Have you heard of Janeane Garofalo? Rosie O'Donnell? Al Franken, for God's sake?!?!
"And Obama's already done quite a bit for the country…"
Riiiiiggggghhhhttt. He's a damn failure as President and he's been in office barely a month. Practically everyone he nominates for a position on his team turns out to be dirty, his so called "stimulus" package stinks of pig, and your precious Messiah can't even decide if he wants to play Lincoln or Reagan today. Not to mention the fact that consumer confidence is down, and the market has taken quite a tumble *since* he signed his filthy bill into law. Even liberal economists are stepping forward to say that the stimulus package won't work. It is quite apparent to anyone with more than 2 brain cells (which leaves out most liberals) that your Dear Leader is in way over his head, probably more so than Carter was.
But of course, you live in lala land so just continue polishing your Obama statue while the whole damn country falls apart around you.
You'll take the pink Prius and like it.
And by "backwater myths" you mean the truth that has you lot so scared that you have to troll this site.
Keep on keepin' on.
It's like shooting ducks in a pond
All a coincidence. Nothing to see here.
What exactly has Obama done for us? Let's see, can't find anyone to nominate who paid their taxes, signs a "stimulus" bill that is considered such a joke that the market collapses and European finance ministers start suggesting that the Chinese should lead us out of our economic problems, passed a bank bailout plan that causes most banks to lose 40-60% of their value… etc.
You say he closed Guantanamo? When did that happen? Funny it hasn't happened yet. Equal pay for women? Not really, all he did was move a statute of limitations. Fixed our image? Ok, then why does Chavez still attack us, why did the Iranians ridicule Obama, why are the Russians now going to finish a nuclear reactor in Iran, why did Pakistan make a truce with the Taliban, why is Kyrgystan kicking us out of the air base we need to resupply Afghanistan, why won't Europe send more troops to Afghanistan, why is Switzerland talking about retaliating for our banking policy, why are Europe and China upset about the Buy America provisions of the stimulus… and on and on and on.
So only Big Hollywood readers were able to avoid the sway of the media? And the rest of America is…what? Too stupid to turn the channel? Too gullible? The disdain you all have for the intellect of Americans is amazing. Do you even like this country? We're perfectly able to fact-check on our own. It wasn't the "media" (whatever that means) who had Palin winking into the camera during the debates like a high-school cheerleader promising a blowjob. It wasn't the media who knocked up her daughter while she (Palin) was advocating abstinence. She's so busy traveling round the country preaching family values she cant even find time to keep an eye on her own daughter. Funny as hell.
Where's that blowjob she implied when she winked at me during the debate? (5 times!).
And don't forget, she's only ONE conservative. Every news channel except Fox spouts liberalism, Hollywood spouts liberalisms, most newspapers around the country spout liberalisms, yet somehow Ryan misses that. Ann Coulter writes a book and Rush has one radio show and suddenly Ryan thinks he's surrounded by the enemy. Give me a break. All that time living in the echo chamber sure does make them soft doesn't it?
Thanks for proving the degenerate nature and stupidity of the average citizen, this is why we are a republic and not a democracy.
Not to mention, why buy a product (liberal thought) that you get free on tv, in newspapers, in books, in movies, in magazines, from crazy guys on the street, on the news… Why not just buy air while you're at it.
Are you saying that media companies such as NBC or Fox News or Clear Channel actually promote their own agendas? Really? How old are you again?
If you don't believe they do, then you are not informed enough to actually post on a political blog. MSNBC made a conscious choice to reduce the number of Conservative voices on their network, make Keith Olberman their flagship, and set themselves up as the voice of the Left. What's really funny is that at it's highest point, they were still getting killed by Fox, and since Obama took office, their ratings are plummeting. You can dis Hannity as much as you like, but have you ever heard him (or any other Fox commentator) say that listening to a candidate gave him a "thrill up my leg"? Trying to compare the two networks is like comparing modern medicine to witch doctors. It's just silly.
They were all Republicans… or so we'll be told if it becomes a political issue.
Well I can only imagine the diverse population of friends you must have if everyone of them was willing to vote for the great communicator Sarah Palin. She certainly had all the goods: a knocked-up, unwed teenage daughter. Five colleges that she'd attended. Vast foreign policy knowledge. Great team player skills. And of course she came from an important state that a lot of Americans could relate to. Great decision-making skills though (like going on SNL–very Presidential!) Plus who can forget her original fashion sense. Yep, now that I think about it, how did she lose?!
Because you drank the neo-marxist kool-aid.
"dangerous radical / stealth muslim / academic cheatin'-neegruh…"
Wow, and conservatives are supposed to be the bigots, huh? You sure don't mind throwing around the ugly words if you think it will help your argument, do you?
Okay, a simple "wrong" would have done just fine.
That was awesome!
It has to do with this little thing called "penance". Bill Ayers only regret was that he didn't do MORE. He's never apologized for his actions and his first post 9/11 interview was basically "they had it coming".
BUY THE MOVIE – to support John.
Better than donating to Michael steel's hip hop GOP
Boy, you could put O'Donnel's feet to the fire and she's not going to take ownership of her comment claiming that Palin called Obama a "terrorist" at all. Good for you for trying though. We need more people like you trying to hold these people accountable.
Equal opportunity toward Democrats and Republicans my a**.
Can someone tell me why it isn't in the news about how OBAMA is cutting the defense budget and yet sending $900B to HAMAS. Has anyone any comments? Why are terrorists being released from Getmo who have threatened our country? Why hasn't the great one commented on any of these? Why hasn't the great one mentioned the actions going on the Mexican border? Why hasn't the great one commented anything on the North Koreans having long range missles……ANYONE?????? Wake up……..
This is way off topic, but um, because he's not really cutting the defense budget (there are semantics involved), he's sending $20 million, not $900 billion, to Gaza for relief efforts, and no Gitmo prisoners are going to be released (they're going to be moved and given trials)?
It will be a terrible sound bite but I don't disagree with him. That statement, however, may have been related to the survey done on film about Obama supporters. Who didn't know who the Speaker of the House was or who actually said, "I can see Russia from my house." Was it Tina Fey or Sarah Palin? It also pointed out how well informed Obama supporters were about the back stories of McCain/Palin but knew nothing of the back stories of Obama/Biden.
John, I'm suprised that you are surprised.
Remember who really runs NBC News, Keithy-poo Olbermann. The man who gets beat by everybody in cable news will not let anyone harm his man crush Barry O.
John, you are the A-ROD of liberal media bias exposers….can't wait to see the dvd!
John is comparing the media and it's bias between the coverage of the two individuals.
Where is this constant disconnect between the comparison of Palin and Obama. Sarah Palin was not running for POTUS. Shouldn't your comparison of intellect and foreign policy issues be between Biden and Palin or McCain and Obama. Biden is known for inserting his foot in his mouth on a regular basis. We've all gotten to see Obamas STFU face on more than one occasion when Biden spoke.
The more I learn about Chicago politics the more I feel like I relate to the state of Alaska than Illinois.
How did Sara Palin lose her bid for President? Being as how you are a great fact checker it shouldn't take you long to figure it out, however, if you can't the answer is provided above.
Last number I saw was $900 million to Gaza and the money would be handled by the Palestinian Authority and not Hamas. There really isn't an answer to the Gitmo question yet that I know of beyond the promise of merely closing it down. The next logical question like where they're going or what will happen to them well that hasn't been answered yet. If it has I'd like to hear about it.
I was watching CNN or MSNBC at the Gym I work out at. Actually, I wasn't "watching" it, but it was on while I was working out. There was no sound but I was struck by the graphic that said "reaction to The President's Speech" and it occurred to me that during the Bush years, we would have never seen a graphic that said that. It would have read: "Reaction to Bush's speech" or something similar. It crossed my mind that Bias is so pervasive, so absolutely entrenched that even small things like that are done without any thought at all. Liberals are happy about Bias because it reinforces "their" point of view, but they don't realize that "their point of view" 99% of the time is only "their point of view" because of the continual barrage of leftist ideology that they have received at the hands of the media, educational, and entertainment Establishment. Most Liberals will never realize that fact.
We are in a very dangerous time, we are at the precipice of fomenting our own destruction. When the Government controls what we see and what we do, we are all lost. The founders never conceived that their establishment of a "Free press" could ever be bypassed not by government control, but instead hijacked by radicals who have infested all the institutions and THEN infiltrated the halls of government, then worked hand in hand with the "Free press" to achieve their ends.
On principle, Liberals SHOULD have a problem with Bias, but we see the lie of Liberalism as a totalitarian ideology cloaked in the rhetoric of humanitarian progressivism. We are sowing the seeds of our own destruction, and doing it in the name of "hope" and "change." Our poor children..
Your ruining the pipe dream sir.
It's comments like this that keep me away from the kool-aid even though it looks so refreshing. Ignorance is bliss you know……
I'm all for pitchforking the enemy since being able to debate issue hasn't seemed to worked out so well. Can you please provide a list of what you see as Democrats short falls. That would go a long way to changing my mind that there can be any type of debate anymore.
I'll start off with not being so happy myself that Republicans turned into big spenders by growing the size of government.
Don't project, Paul. Don't project.
Sorry $900 million. My error.
Whatever man. Election's over and Obama won. Im not trying to "score points" or win a debate. There are very good reasons why McCain/Palin lost and pointing your fingers at the media is a distraction. If thats what you need to do to make your wounds feel better, go ahead.
I am personally shocked that NBC and it's evil spawn, MSNBC would in any way slice and dice your film John. Oh ya,that's right, I'm not shocked.
I'm with ya Suzz I don't think we should send another dime of foreign aid to countries that openly hate us. American tax payers good will to other countries seems to have the reverse effect. Then again while it was mildly reported a lot of African countries loved GB for the amount of money poured into their countries. Afghanistan and Iraq we opened Pandora's box so we should help rebuild the countries.
As far as the Mexican boarder is concerned it unfortunately will require quite a few more deaths of American citizens in American States before any action will take place. Both parties seem to think they benefit from illegal immigration so both do nothing. Now that we're stating to see a real "war on drugs" take place in Mexico and it's spreading into the states they might do something but I'm not holding my breath. It's not PC to question such things no matter how insane it is that we do nothing about them.
We should not be remotely surprised by what we saw from the media in this last election cycle. You have to realize that the vast majority of the people occupying the anchor seat are nothing more than a pretty face. These people are handed a script and asked to read it without drooling on themselves. Where are all of this becomes frightning is when they start to believe that they are actually important. Unfortunately all too many people in this country have become so complaisant and unwilly to actually think for themself. The media realise this and plays to this weakness. It then becomes our job to change the minds of the weak. The truth will always in the end win out. It is our job to help those people who believe this dribble, see the light.
U2Dave Exactly how I feel. So let me get this right, no there is no reporting on how much the African countries loved GB because it was GB. Are they not reporting on the $900 billion being given to Gaza because of HAMAS' love for O opps sorry I mean the Palestilian Authority?
It's funny, really, to claim that McCain/Palin took the low road.
Every mailing I received about McCain was nothing but misleading lies. The focus on Palin was entirely mud-centric. No one made the media ignore her record of governing in Alaska. And then, of course, there was Obama's pre-emptive strikes against what his racist opponents were *going* to do… in the future… Is implying that your opponents are racist, but just haven't *yet* expressed that racism, really functionally different that implying that your opponent doesn't mind, at all, hanging about with an unrepentant terrorist? I mean… that actually had already happened… so I suppose it really is different, isn't it.
I can oblige that. The Democrats could stand to stand up for themselves more…they don't handle confrontation well. They talk tough and then they don't stand by their word, saying "If we had more people we would [x]…" But when they had the majority they didn't get much done.
All I'm saying is that no voice is given to the counterpoint. It's very easy to bash someone's views if you don't give them the chance to defend them. And books are slightly different than policy that actually affects Americans.
Lodo, your right about one thing. Yes there are good reasons why McCain lost. Thats not the Point. The Point is that in a country where throughout history people have given their lives to defend freedom, one of those freedom's being freedom of the press. The Media OWES all of us better. It does not matter what your pollitical persuasion is. The media owes us the truth about both sides, not just one. What the media did with Obama was to present us with the messiah.
I seem to recall the whole Obama family on the cover of People magazine. But I guess that doesn't count as pulling the family into the media circus because it's the messiah.
Remember ~ Jesus saves, Obama spends.
Yes, AirAmerica does not work because it is humorless. You would think that actual comedians turned liberal talk show hosts would have a scintilla of humor.
Well no offense Tony, but even if the media did support Obama ( and I dont necessarily agree that they did) people don't just blindly follow the media. People make up their minds based on a variety of different reasons. This is America. We're not drones. We make our decisions and do our own fact checking. Your disdain for America and the intelligence of its people is astounding. Show some respect for your country and its people. We're smart–not stupid. We lead, don't follow. Im amazed at the power you think the media has over us.
I am just going to interject a few minor points. A. IBill Ayers, (not Dick) was not 20 years old. He was 25-29 when he committed his alleged terrorist activities. B. He was never found "not guilty". The charges were dropped for mishandling of evidence. He is admittedly unrepentant about his activities and wished that his group had done more. I would not want him as my neighbor. C. This was an issue that I cared about.
This is a crystal clear example of the mean-spirited, intolerant, holier-than-thou, left with limited intellect. My sympathies to Scarlett's family, and if she has any, children.
That's why I don't think there is much difference between Republican or Democrat politicians, big on promises short on results. Personally I think that both parties play to their extreme bases, obviously for votes, which leaves them frozen when it comes time to act. Truly one can not deliver on the unending list of campaign promises with out alienating the rest of their party at the same time.
I have a comment and a question for those who may know.
Comment
Obama is the problem, period. In the economy, people are voting with their dollars. The presidency seems to be a job that's above His paygrade. Schadenfreude is a great description for Obama's approach to the economy. He doesn't care about capital markets, he's not a capitalist, he has no skin in that game! He’s a community organizer (a hustler and professional protester). Now he's gonna globalize this racket?
Question
Is this possible constitutionally, (given that the Democrats won and there are 47 months left in the term)?
1. Obama gracefully resigns as president. (to save Western Civilization from Him)
2. Biden becomes president and chooses Bill Clinton as VP.
3. Biden resigns as president in 2011 and Bill Clinton becomes President for 2 years.
4. Newt Gingrich and Hillary Clinton face off in 2012.
5. Obama writes another self-congratulatory autobiography while organizing soup lines all across America.
Sorry, my bad.
It does seem to be an easier way to live, doesn't it?
According to quite a few different survey's of Industrialized nations we don't fare so well in the smart category. Hillary Clinton got a little up set at the media over their unending love affair with Obama. Chris Matthews and the "chill running up his leg," or something of that sort certainly doesn't sound like objectivity, I'm pretty sure that falls into the opinion category.
I think what "how obama got elected" video was truly about is what people take in from the media. They were fully up to speed on Palin, there is no question about that. They didn't however know much about Obama or Biden.
I don't actually think that most people do any fact checking. If that was actually the case we would hear far fewer mantras that had no base to them. "Bush Lied People Died" this statement is false Bush didn't lie about the war in Iraq or WMD's. He spoke, as many prominent Senators on the left did, based on information gathered by intelligence agencies.
I can admit that FOX News leans to the right in their coverage of news. The reason I appreciate this is because of the amount of time I've had to listen to the left leaning majority of news outlets. Not to mention school teachers and college professors. It would appear from the ratings that I'm not the only one who was ready for a conservative friendly approach to the news.
Clever…your biggest criticism for Democrats is that they cannot convince enough people they are right when confronted with opposing viewpoints.
I love this country, I just think it's being and has been systematically ruined by liberals. No I don't think Americans are all that smart look at our government and lack of outrage at rampant corruption.
The constant assault on Constitutional rights as well as the lack of enforcement of laws that are already in place. There have been debates about allowing illegal aliens the right to vote and not a debate about why they aren't being arrested and deported.
In California if you are an illegal alien you can go to college with out having to pay out of country tuition not to mention just merely out of state tuition. The state was sued over this policy so they came up with yet another PC term for it. They continued to charge legal US citizens a higher tuition rate that were from a different state more than they would charge a student that is not a resident or citizen.
What's funny is this juxtaposition about American intellect/fact checking when we are constantly being told what to think by liberals going through the school systems.
Your stereotyping and sexism wasn't lost on me either, but hey all Americans have a super duper intellect.
Good point U2Dave.
To deny that the media don't have an impact on how people make decisions is to ignore the obvious.
Most people don't research issues and get their news in 10 minute bites and newspaper headlines.
Mr. Zigler's video showing the total lack of any knowledge of the issues and attributing the idiotic statements/policies of Obama/Biden to McCain/Palin by Obama voters shows just how bad this problem is.
Mr. 57 states can start his political career in the living room of a domestic terrorist,spend 20 yrs. supporting a bigot and propagandist like Wright whose church advocates the genocide of white people that don't conform to black separatist theology,then turn around and call Palin the "religious freak" because she said a prayer for our troops going to war.
Liberals can support rendition,enhanced interrogation ,NSA wiretapping,indefinite detention of Gitmo detainees,keeping troops in Iraq based on conditions on the ground,and other policies that they condemned Bush for but have no problem now that Obama is doing it. The press gives the hypocrisy and selective outrage of the liberals a total pass.
The failed community organizer had only one major decision to make as a senator and he failed miserably:
Voting and advocating against the surge which has turned Iraq into a success story.
If Mr. genius had his way,al-qaeda and Iran would be running Iraq and there would probably be all out war in the middle east.
Press gives him a total pass still pushing the bogus "superior judgment" talking point that totally ignores the failed positions and policies that Obama has taken.
These are a few of the many failed positions by the "smart ones":
This “smart power” by the “smart ones” was preceded by having more than eight chances to take out Osama in the 90’s(including having him delivered to us from the Sudan on a silver platter)with nothing to show,treating terrorism with “police action” that allowed Al-Qaeda to grow to tremendous strengths while they bombed the twin towers,US embassies,and our battleships to name a few,creating the Gorelic wall that prevented US intelligence from stopping 9/11.
The “smart ones” also yelled and screamed about how dangerous Saddam was with his WMD’s/ties to Al-Qaeda and genocide eventually voting in 2003 to go to war.When it got tough,they sold out this country and stabbed our Soldiers in the back by trying to surrender and making up stupid conspiracy theories like “Bush lied”,”stole the elections”,”went to war for oil”,”outed Plame”,”Bush did 9/11″ and so on just to win congressional seats and pursue the White House.
Then the “smart ones” voted against the surge saying it would make things worse.
The “smart ones” said Shia,Sunni,and the kurds would never get along and be able to work together in a representative government.
The “smart ones” said Maliki was Sadr’s bitc# and would never be able to defeat him or his influence in Iraq.
The “smart ones” have been yelling about global warming and how dangerous it is despite none of their predictions,or bogus models coming true and scientist by the thousands are now calling it one of the biggest cons known to man.
The “smart ones” think high taxes,welfare,strict gun laws,throwing money at education,being easy on crime is the way to run a city.
New York,LA,Detroit,Chicago,DC,and many more cities and states that are run from top to bottom by democrats are broke,crime ridden,with terrible education standards and pathetic graduation results.
Their is NOTHING SMART about being a LIBERAL.
I found this post confusing. I think the first video link links to the wrong video.
Look, Ann Coulter is provocative, yes, but consider this
1. She is a book author, not mass media
2. She wasn´t feted by the GOP the way Michael Moore was at the 2004 convention. And Moore has harmed this country in many ways.
3. She wasn´t elected to the Senate like Al Franken, who wrote a book called "Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot" – during a time when libs were "shut down" according to you.
4. Liberals always bring up Coulter because they cannot find many other examples.
5. When exactly did Coulter make up quotes out of thin air?
6. When did Coulter pretend to be news media as opposed to (frequently humorous) commentary?
What is contoversial about a Down's Syndrom baby? Th press was savage, and that was predictable. The liberal M.S. Media were totally invested in electing ONE OF THEIR OWN. The bigger the leftist, the better. If the Demshad takena shovel and dug up Che' and broke Lenin out of the Kremlin,woke him up from his four decade dirt nap, proped him up and run the two as the 2008 ticket, hey, WHY NOT! It's time for a change! Hope!
Wow.
I didn't think O'Donnell was too bright before, but after watching that, I feel embarrassed for her. Zieg, good for you for taking her to task. Unfortunately, I don't think she got it. She looked and acted like she had no idea that you were tearing her a new one. She just smiled and moved on to the next question. After the first time you rip into her about the "terrorist" comment, she completely ignores what you said and you can be seen chuckling at her apparent obliviousness.
Granted, "The View" isn't mainstream news, but their "Obama is sexy" approach definitely reflects the "thrill up the leg" mentality of the mainstream media.
He's "sexy", he's "cool" and everytime he opens his mouth the DOW tanks.
The only reason that liberals don't like Ann Coulter is because she can't be bested in sound bites. She holds her composure well, and doesn't blow up in a huff like some of the liberal nut jobs that I see. She isn't ugly, so that can't make depracating comments about that, and as for the view, I thought that 3 of those women were going to need a moist towelette after the "interview" with BO
I believe that we have 4 fabulous years of non-stop comedy , entertainment, & incompetence as Osama Barak & his tax-cheating cabinet fall all ever each other in a contest of who can do the most damage to America. While all this is going on Chris Obertdorfer, The Washington Compost, the New York Slines, etc, will be running blocker for these destructive clowns. Keep on 'em Zig!
Still, I have a hard time feeling sympathetic for a political candidate who tried to play the press and pulled her family in the midst of the circus, and then whines that it didn't work and her family should've been out of bounds.
Yes because NO politician has ever allowed their family to be photographed before, right? Besides allowing her family to be photographed and videotaped along side her, can you please give us one example of her using her family in an underhanded way (I can't even figure out what "Pulled her family in the midst of the circus," is supposed to mean).
Along with Ayers (who Obama WAS close to, as anyone in Chicago can tell you), he was much closer with Rashid Khalidi, who was a former spokesman for the PLO (although now he denies it), and has argued that armed violence against Israeli soldiers by any Palestinian (even ones hiding amongst the civilians, wearing no uniform) is legal under international law (even if Israel isn't doing anything provocative at the time). Khalidi not only was close to Obama and his wife, they babysat for the Obama's children. Khalidi and Ayers were speakers at the event the LA Times refused to disclose the videotape of because it would show Obama sitting in the audience of radical anti-Semites attacking Israel. As usual, you see people on the Left attacking Palin for her "smears," but completely refusing to admit that she was correct (although I agree that her language was overly-harsh). If you'd like, we can talk about comments from Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, Frank, Howard Dean, and other Democrat leaders attacking George Bush in a much harsher fashion. Of course, you'd have to be willing to admit you were being a hypocrite first (because I most certainly can show you far more egregious examples of hate speech from the Left).
I think the BO Fan Club made their own towelettes moist…..
Ryan, your fantasy world is amazing. Also, I never knew that books had to be objective. God, what would Tolstoi have said to this? Keep your comments coming. They are really funny.
Question Sojourner. Did Obama "pal around" with Ayres and Dourn? Are they unrepentant terrorists? I guess when it splatters you with detritus, it is "slimy".
Ryan, Ann Coulter is a CONSERVATIVE columnist, she has NEVER claimed to be a journalist. There is a huge difference between her books and the news. Journalists are supposed to be objective. Maybe this is the problem, liberals don't understand that there is a difference between these two things!!
If Ann Coulter loved her enemies, she would be a Christian.
Sour grapes, Paul, sour grapes! And worse, not a word of truth in your accusations. If I knew a little more about you, I could write all kinds of slander about what you faked, your hidden homosexual lifestyle, the number of police agencies that never investigated your pyramid schemes, and I have no reason to believe any of it is true, except that I don't like what you talk about in public. Just for fun, during the election I emailed a very logical case that Palin was a communist and a secret ally of Hugo Chavez — all woven out of her use of the phrase "serve the people" at the Republican convention!
Bush didn't HAVE a military record! (Oh yeah, he did two days in the Texas Air National Guard to avoid serving in Vietnam).
seriously. It looks like they have employed Obama HOPE poster artist to do their graphics now. That color scheme is NO coincidence. Kudos to Ziegler for going into the belly of the beast and never flinching.
Has anyone considered that maybe Obama gets good press coverage because he had the best plan for how to govern, got the most favorable public response, and made a lot of sense? The press is not responsible to say equal amounts of good and bad about each candidate, they are responsible to report what there is to report. Palin's political profile was pure ugly, and balanced reporting showed it, plain as day. Nobody could miss all the press coverage of Jeremiah Wright, nor frequent mention of Bill Ayers. The fact is, voters weren't particularly impressed by it. Note, Obama is getting generally better ratings in public opinion outside of Washington than among Washington insiders.
'cuse me folks, but I have every right to dislike and disrespect someone who has chosen to run for office. (Talk about drinking the kool aid.) I think the woman is an idoit. I liked McCain. I respected the man, his family and his service to our country, but I thought his choice of a running mate ludicris. My opinion and I voted that way. Her recent whine fest about the media is laughable. Can you imagine Hilary going on about the meanies? Did you see Ann Coulter and her going on about being banned? Nobody cares about her. Enough. If you can't handle it, don't run. If Ms. Palin can't handle Katie Couric (for crying out loud!) how could she handle terrorists? Just imagine her boo hooing around the White House.
And nasty talking about children and a family life you can''t possibly imagine. That 's low life and disgusting. What a horrid wee creature you must be, unsatisfied and dull witted. Shame on you and your ilk. Your self loathing is woefully obvious.
No, you are confusing her with Bernadette Devlin, former leader of the Irish Republican Socialist Party, and short-lived hero of the RC civil rights movement in Ireland. The name you are grasping for is Bernardine Dorhn. Don't be embarrassed, many seventies radicals couldn't keep the first names straight either. Now as to Ayers and Dohrn, let's remember that for some reason, the feds cut a deal with them that allowed them to resume civilian life, with no prison time, on Ronald Reagan's watch, no less. So, by the time Obama met them, one was a professor of education, the other was running a highly regarded legal services program for children at Northwestern University. You can suggest that they should have been in prison. I know someone who believes they should have been shot. But they weren't. And Obama didn't seek them out in prison, or at a Weather Underground cell meeting, he ran into them in the neighborhood where he lived. If the government lets them go free, and they get hired for responsible jobs, nobody should be tarred and feathered for having legitimate and open associations with them.
What you can see here is that Leftist will excuse any lies, slander or malfeasance as long as it protects the "Messiah".
It is the reason why Leftist are so sure that Bush repeatedly shut down critics and lied about so many things. They know that they would do it in a heartbeat so they assume that everybody would act in the same way.
Example:
They were fond of shouting about the "chill wind blowing across America" under Bush even though Bush never even addressed his critics but think nothing of B. Hussein Obama personally calling out critics by name and actually attacking these citizens such as the CNBC reporter. Shameful.
Did you consider that maybe Obama's constant good press CAUSED the favorable public response? Or that Palin's "pure ugly" profile was a complete media creation that had little to do with her actual record in the various jobs she's held? She had nothing handed to her, and worked for all she has, and has thrived at anything she set her hand to in a variety of fields – pageants, television, politics, hell she was even a point guard, but all anyone thinks about is Barack McDreamy pulling down a rebound. His accomplishments were far thinner, and as far as his plans for governing, they were hidden until they could not possibly be hidden any more – because every time something leaked out it was a pure Marxist wet dream – "Spread other people's wealth around" and "Someone's got to give up some of their pie to other people."
John Ziegler is absolutely a breath of fresh air!!
You apparently don't follow the news as closely as you pretend in lying for your "messiah".
Obama released the "dirty" bomber, Binyam Mohamed, late last week. Perhaps you should actually stop getting your news from Keith Olbermann and MSNBC, then you might be taken more seriously.
Ryan…you're still in your teens or maybe 20's, right? Please tell me you're not any older…
Closed Gitmo? Well, he said he will…eventually…whenever that is…and he figures out what to do with the terrorists we have there.
Equal pay for women…yeah, that old liberal canard. Go study up on the issue and come back later…
the only saving grace in this mess is that Obama will own all of his failures. He will not be able to blame Bush or the republican party for anything that happens to our economy or country since he was sworn in to office….it all will fall on his shoulders. I will sit back and watch for the outcome. If I am wrong, so be it. I am afraid for our nation, and feel sorry for all those poor souls who so readily drank the kool-aid
Ryan, Ann is usually a guest on shows that are commentary based. There is a difference. The problem here is that a lot of people, mostly liberals can't seem to tell the difference between news and commentary.
I'm still waiting for the "Best" plan. He makes platitudes of liberal give-away, this and that, but no specifics. That's probably why the DOW is tanking – because they DON'T know what he's going to do. He's like Bill Clinton, only more dangerous because they both stated their positions with so much grey area that they could wiggle out either way if it turned out good or bad. That's why the decisive Obama voted present nearly 200 times in his short senate tour. Because he didn't want to be locked into a position. Right now we're suffering because of it. He needs to announce specifics, good or bad, and stick with them. Palin's profile was ugly? Because she was pretty and didn't graduate from a snooty liberal Northeast college? She was a self made woman. Hell, even liberal lesbians thought she was great.
Ann Coulter is not "News Media" as NBC is, and this is what the film is attacking. Coulture is an outright conservative, and as an arthur she will write about things such as that, and rightly so. She can write about whatever she wants. However, NBC, and others like it, are "news organizations"; and their claim is that they are "equal opportunity"; it is obvious that they aren't. That is why they should be held accountable for it.
Well, he was in the Texas National Guard long enough to accumulate 400 hours of flight time. Last I checked there are only 24 hours in a day. But again, where are Kerry's records? Hummm?
John, keep up the good work. Slam the left wing media and continue to call them out on all their lies and slander, don't give in.
Yo Ryan If you REALLY want to hold your party accountable, then all I can say is, after watching Obama address the nation and Congress last night and have the unmitigated gall to insist that there were no earmarks in the Recovery Bill, leaves me not only sick to my stomach, but completely shattered in my confidence in this man's integrity, ability to lead and faith in him as a president. Can you say "DISCONNECT?" Take this to the bank Ryan….. by July his approval ratings will PLUNGE!!!!! I do not need a pitchfork. I'll take the truth and I am very confident that the American people will also. Obama has the pitchfork and he is bailing plenty of hay for all of us.
Watching Obama last night in his adress to the nation, INSIST that there were no earmarks in the Recovery Bill, leaves me so bewildered I have lost all hope that the truth even matters anymore. I give this country 3-5 years before the whole thing copllapses.
Sojourner, let's try this again…
What about the phrase "IN DEPTH COVERAGE" do you not understand? Please check my previous post. Your lame attempt at sarcastic "witticisms" is as weak as your attempt to read at something like a 5th grade level, obviously.
I did not say these scandals (no quotations necessary, they were real and they involved millions) were never reported. What I said was I wanted them to be covered as exhaustively as such critical things as how much Sarah Palin's business suits cost.
Given that this completely ridiculous, totally unqualified clown wanted to be president, I think that's a fair request, don't you?
But seriously- nice work on another strawman, three more and you're an ace.
Regarding being "honest" about Palin overshadowing McCain. Relevance please? The issue is that obama got a virtually free pass on all his scandalous and kleptocratic behavior while the MSM was dumpster diving in Alaska. Yet again, jugears the vapid wanted to be president- he needed to be investigated as much as or moreso than Palin.
Finally- you say "again, I don't think the charges of media bias against Palin are unfounded…"
I confess that I'm not able to see where you said this initially. I'm sorry, but could you point that out on this thread for me?
The whole election was pure ugly and thats w/ a capital UGLY!
So Ayer's and Dohrne aren't terroists??? Planting bombs at the Pentagon and Police Stations isn't domestic terrorism? Even Ayers admits Obama had an introduction coffee at their house. If McCain had associated with a right-wing terrorists who bombed abortion clinics, you and other liberals would see it differently. You're an idiot if you think pointing out the truth about Obama's relationships makes her slimy.
WIretapping "peoples" homes. Geeeeeze you liberals are pathetic. The government listens in on terrorists and you think your rights are being violated. Liberals are always screaming about rights and ironically the left has done far more to shut down freedom of speech. Trying telling the truth about Evolution or Global Warming and see how you'd keep you job in the government or a college campus.
Well stated Ken. She knows full well she never corrected her mistake. Even now the B is I'm sure proud that she lied about Palin to help Obama get elected. Also great how she implied his film was a string of SNL skits.
The issue isn't about one election. It's about a press that has now decided it no longer even has to pretend to objective. I'm not sure McCain would have won without the Pro-O coverage. Honestly, he's not my favorite Republican. I am sure that the media bias can no longer be tolerated in a truly free country. The internet will continue to replace the MSM and with good reason.
Yeah, that whole "global financial crisis" that hit in September and McCain's reaction to it had nothing to do with his fall in the polls. It was all Palin's fault.
When Obama runs for re-election he will have a record. I pressed liberals for examples of his great work when he was in the IL state senate or the U.S. Senate. All I heard back was a bunch of nonsense about hope, change, and yes we can. So we will see. You suggest we should look at what he's doing. I've talked to a lot of voters from the center who wish they could take their vote back.
Liberal talk show hosts were not "given" one public radio station. They flopped so badly that they could hardly keep that gig going. You think Limbaugh or Levin were "given" anything? They are not forced on their audience. We don´t have a centrally planned economy yet.
"They keep their attacks to those who deserve it" And all conservatives deserve it, right? You can dish it out, but can´t take it when Coulter criticizes a mindset, an attitude, an ideology. And if you think Franken or any number of liberal agitators don´t talk about Republicans as a whole, you are deep in the bubble, pal. As in: "Republican politicians are shameless dicks." No word about this angry clown becoming a Senator? Didn´t think so. I´m sure you think he´s a genius.
Thank you for the Ayers, Dohrn bios. For what it's worth I find these two to be footnotes in history. I deplore what they did, and Ayers admits it, he walked on a technicallity. Justice generally sorts itself out eventually. I didn't think the average voter, informed on politics by Jay Leno gave a ratz azz about these two. They do, even with Obama making aquaintence with after they had established academic careers, open a window on his soul, but not a game changer. Ayers in upset with the Afgan troop surge, so I doubt he'll be despoiling the Lincoln bedroom anytime soon. Thanks.
whats funny is GWB had a higher approval rating than Obama does in their first month of office. GWB was favored by the people and people thought he was doing a much better job than obama is right now. that says a lot to me.
heres another one you wouldnt see happen to obama. on oct. 28, 2008, there was an article about a halloween store that hung an effigy of sarah palin from a noose. this didnt make big news, BUT if they had hung an effigy of Obama, how many lawsuits, death threats, beatings would have happened to the owner of that store. that is how bad this race got and how menacing some people's hatred for sarah palin were.
Oh, I'm sure she understood what was happening and probably had a fit once she was off-camera, but smiling and going on to another topic was her way of minimizing the impact of what he said. I'm sure she was hoping the viewers would quickly forget his words (which were wonderful, by the way). Good going, Zieg!
Sniffing on glue,
You ever notice that when you lead with an insult, people tend to take what you say afterwards less seriously?
Now, I'll agree with you that the visual media (i.e., television) always goes for the best sound byte, and therefore not only tends to provide shallow coverage on any issue, but repeats misquotes half-truths almost as fast as the politicians and talking heads can spew them out. Newspapers are sometimes better, but all too many reporters don't do enough digging, and often rely on "subject matter experts" to do their research for them. So the media, in general, covers personalities instead of issues, gossip instead of fact.
But I've read about all of the alleged "scandals" in the mainstream media (and I count FOX News and newspapers like the Sacramento Bee, Washington Post, and Wall Street Journal as mainstream press). And yes, some of these articles were IN DEPTH. Sorry they didn't come to the conclusion you wanted. It's surprising that, with all the conservative news organizations, radio shows, and blogs, nobody came up with anything that stuck. Unless there wasn't much there to begin with.
The relevance of Palin overshadowing McCain is that the press covered her more avidly because she was a virtual unknown and massively popular among conservatives. Therefore the press gave her more coverage and, as she didn't pass the "smell test," they covered her more vigorously and found out that a lot of her claims (bridge to nowhere, anyone) were half-truths. And having a pregnant teenage daughter certainly seemed to violate some conservative standards. And yes, when the press smell blood or mendacity they go in for the kill, and often go too far. Just as during the summer, when Obama was gaining momentum, they covered him more than Clinton, and focused on Wright and Rezko. Because Palin was introduced so late in the game, the coverage was compressed, so it may certainly seem worse to the conservative-inclined. Especially when consertive news sources and blogs screamed "Bias" and "sexism" any time something negative was said against her. Was bias involved? Probably. But no more than the bias against Obama was clear on conservative side of the media.
"If you listen to most liberal "attacks", they try not to say "Republicans" unless it's a situation like the stimulus bill – where the Republican party was attempting to block the bill as a whole."
Wow, that's a relief. I was worried when Nancy Pelosi called all Republican Congressman "unpatriotic" for not showing up to a closed-door negotiation session of which they were not informed and to which they were not invited that it didn't have the righteousness of political disagreement attached to it. Thank goodness that all Repbublicans can be attacked with impunity if they're objecting to the ruinously stupid self-serving policies advocated by Democrats. I guess we don't have to fall in love, just fall in line, right Ryan?
Sojourner of half truths-
Ever notice that when you actually read someone's post and comprehend what they're saying, they don't have to mock how stupid you are? This lack of comprehension on your part grows ever more tiresome, and I take you ever less seriously.
Have to say, the whole argument/logic/counterargument seems to be a bit beyond you as evidenced yet again by your latest deranged screed.
I'll say again… there was not the continual coverage of the Rezko/Obama real estate scam, the coverage of the Annenburg challenge, the coverage of massive amounts of hud monies disappearing on obama's watch, etc. etc. etc. To say that they received the same amount of coverage as such important topics as how much was spent on Palin's wardrobe or amniotic fluid is an utter lie. You say they focused on Wright and Rezko. Right- obama gave his "groundbreaking" speech on race, and the press dropped wright never to return- that's some dogged reporting, eh? Rezko- you're just wrong on that.
Perfect case in point- blago gets caught trying to sell obama's senate seat. Obama first says noone from his bunch talked to him, then well they sort of talked to him, then well uh, someone talked to blagojevich about the seat but jugears the vapid had one of his top men do a study and nothing untoward happened. Three different stories in a week, but then a paid lackey says everything is okay so the press moves on. Yeah, real diligence. No double standard at all. Pathetic.
To say that the purported coverage didn't "come to the conclusion I wanted" is yet another straw man- about the only thing you are good at constructing, as obviously you've danced all around the point. Wow, you're up to three. Well done.
You go on to talk about Palin and her "mendacity"- could you tell me how the "bridge to nowhere" was evidence of such, and could you lay out a few more of the "lot of her claims" that were?
Though you won't be able to come up with "a lot" of them, at root it's an academic exercise- yet again, she was not at the top of the ticket. If you believe that the media dissection of Palin was warranted, why then did not Biden get the same treatment? Why no real coverage of his lobbyist son, or the one affiliated with the Texas investment scammer lately in the news? What about slow joe lying about a drunk killing his family, or his lies about regularly going to a particular restaurant when in fact he didn't, or his ludicrous "joe sixpack" charade, and on and on and on ad nauseum?
Yet again- unfair coverage of Palin. Your case is weak, your argument skills just laughable.
Begone, sojourner of halftruths. You are boring, and I am done taunting you.
Still haven't seen where you initially stated that charges of media bias against Palin weren't unfounded.
Ryan, I´m sure you´re one of those who complain that Bush" hurt our standing in the world". This from someone who lives in the world: when Moore visited the town where I lived and screamed in front of thousands of jeering Germans that Americans are dumb, he hurt this country. When he did his best to ensure that the Iraq war ended in disaster, comparing terrorists who were massacring Iraqis at the time with the minutemen, he gave our enemies hope and hurt this country. When he sold more of his books in Europe than in the US, he hurt his country. If you are European and an American tells you his country is a criminal enterprise, you believe it. And by spreading lies about the Cuban healthcare system – which I have seen up close – he crapped all over the people who suffer under it and hurt this country by making nationalized healthcare more acceptable.
The lies foreigners believe about America were mostly spread by American liberals, an endless succession of entertainers and political hacks who paraded across my tv screen in recent years.
That's what I thought the first time John was on with her. After this one, however, I think she just isn't that smart.
"If you can't handle it, don't run. If Ms. Palin can't handle Katie Couric (for crying out loud!) how could she handle terrorists?"
This line is pretty hilarious considering that Obama and his supporters got their panties all up in a wad just by mentioning his middle name.
Obama can't even handle being called out by a CNBC talking head without getting his press secretary to start attacking him. Thank God they didn't violate his civil rights by doing illegal searches to try and dig up dirt on him like they did Joe the Plumber.
Look no further than Obama for a thin skinned ninny who can't take the heat.
Paling was not "whining",she was stating the fact that their is a double standard and major bias in the media.
Every major study and poll supports the premise that the MSM is liberally biased.
The criticism of her not interviewing well is a legitimate issue as well as level of experience.
The fact that she had more experience than Obama seemed to get a big pass from these same people.
Going on about her buying tanning beds,not really giving birth to her child,her clothes,and being referred to as
a back woods redneck only strengthens the point that democrats had to stoop to character assassination against Paling because they could not shut her down based on her successful record as governor of Alaska.
Hillary did complain about sexism many times in the democratic senatorial and presidential primaries.
Difference is,when a democrat complains,it is "speaking truth to power",when a Republican complains it's called a "whine fest".
Right now democrats are whining about Republicans being obstructionist because they dare to have a dissenting opinion.When democrats dissented over the last 8 years,this is how they responded:
“I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration you’re not patriotic. We should stand up and say, ‘We are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!’”
–Hillary Clinton
Right with you Hillary.
Dissent still is patriotic isn't it?
Sniffing on glue,
Yeah, I'm done with you too. You might want to figure out what a "straw man" is, so you don't overuse it so often. You also might want to get into some anger management therapy.
Toodles,
Barrack HussianObama////Or Barry Hussein X, which one we still don't know, but we will soon because this ultra Left Liberal doesn't know what he's doing he surrounds himself with all Clinton has beens, and we can remember what that was like. Taxes, need i say more, every one he's picked FORGOT to pay their taxes, Let you or I try that. Some judgement Hussian has so far. The liberal Media is like the Hitler Propaganda machine during the Second world war telling ONLY ONE SIDE and destroying the other. Theres an Old Saying TIME WILL TELL, and I think I'ts going to be sooner than you think. Under this Person I fear for this Country and People. 1-20-2013 can't wait.
The reason I decline to be a liberal is that they don't seem to have the spine to give mindless twirps like Ann Coulter the contempt she deserves. She's just a bag of hot air and venom.
I considered it, but I don't think so. I know the effect you are talking about. It hit both parties in 2000. I kept wondering, how did GWB become "the Republican front runner" before a single voter had cast a primary ballot? A cabal of insiders said he was, the media bought it and magnified it, so it became fact. Not much different with Gore, although a vice president always has an edge for his party's nomination. I sat that one out, calling it Anti-Christ v. The Blob. GWB always reminded me of Damien in Omen III. Gore? He had taken every conceivable position on every possible issue at some point in his career. Remember him as a pro-life congressman from Tennessee?: How about proudly telling farmers in North Carolina "I have grown tobacco"? And remember when he was the conservative Democratic alternative to Dukakis? The man who first raised Willie Horton as a campaign issue? I think Colin Powell settled the Palin issue. He observed that she is a woman of many talents, but obviously not qualified to be president (and therefore, probably not vice president either). The media DID show the adoring crowds of people who admired here. Thank God they were far from a majority when the votes were counted. Obama was on the losing end of this media phenomenon. Hillary was "the front runner," until voters started going for Obama instead. Before Iowa, a majority of African Americans was for Hillary, because "we know white voters won't support a black candidate." Wrong-o. Then the media did give him amazed positive coverage, but, they also played up Wright and Ayers. If we couldn't miss hearing about it, it was covered. I recall the journalists running the North Carolina debate asking all kinds of nonsense questions, prefaced with "The voters want to know…" Obama called it right at the next campaign rally: 45 minutes before one question on a matter of any real interest to voters was asked.
Liddy is punished but unrepentant. North got the same deal Ayers did, or slightly better, and he isn't repentant either. I never had much use for Ayers or Dohrn, because even if I saw some merit in their analysis of power and economics, they were such rhetorical goofballs, when they weren't making things worth by actually blowing up things that civilians valued. For God's sake, if you are serious about changing the world, you have to win over people, not drive them away. I mean, Americans generally don't like our government. Its part of being American. But we do like to get home from work safe and sound.
I'm not Sojourner, but the answer to the first question is definitely no. The answer to the second? Ask their priest, if they have one. Otherwise, God knows. That's their burden, not their acquaintances'. When you go to work, do you "pal around" with everybody who works there? Even with everyone in your unit? If you sit on a board, do you "pal around" with everyone else on the board? If you walk down the street, do you "pal around" with everyone on the block? I "pal around" with people I spend week-ends and evenings with, go to parks with, play games with, not people I have to have cordial working relations with.
Well, she has a law degree and is an associate at the Hoover Institute. That being said she has the academic credentials and intellectual chops to hang with most anyone. We have to distingush between killing the messanger or the message. "Me thinks thou" wants to kill messenger, concentrate on the message.
In my seldom humble opinion, Rush Limbaugh IS a big fat idiot, but then, Al Franken is a fatuous egocentric egghead. Neither one has much constructive to offer. No, I take that back. Limbaugh did a great piece on the Oklahoma City survivors asking for the same monetary benefits that the World Trade Center survivors got — the entitlement culture. He got that exactly right. I liked Franken on SNL, but I just don't see him being a very good senator. But then, I don't want Coleman either. Hey, who cares what I want, I don't vote in Minnesota. That's none of my business.
A lawyer! Wow! Think of the possibilities! Blonde right-wing lawyer jokes! Maybe throw in a vacuum cleaner! I mean, except when you want to play up your favorite, lawyers are the profession we all love to hate… conservatives, liberals, radicals, communists… oh, but we all love our OWN lawyers. I frankly can't FIND a message in Coulter. She IS her own message. Hey everybody, look at me, I'm not a liberal! Well, get in line lady. There are fifty-eleven different kinds of not-liberals in the USA. (Oh dear, I'm mixing Langston Hughes and Robert Heinlein, a bit from Coffee Break and a bit from The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress. Hey, I like that combination.) She is a master, or mistress, of invective and name-calling, but really, I simply can't find a coherent MESSAGE in there. She's preaching to the choir, that's all. And the choir loves her, because she is trashing those the choir loves to trash.
I don't know about liberals, but I can't think of anyone I know who has mentioned her in the past three months. She's just irrelevant, except to people who live in Alaska, and those who are making movies about what a rotten deal she got. Oh, I do remember an elderly Polish-American woman in Milwaukee, who the day after the election was celebrating Obama's victory, adding "But I'm still mad at that lady." (She was referring to Palin.)
One of the reasons I don't like liberals is because they can't take on Ann Coulter in sound bytes. She's brittle as glass, but she can get liberals to react, denounce, and even fear her little tirades. If any of them had the nerve to hold their composure and tell the little bully she's irrelevant, she would wilt away. She thrives on being hated, and she's just not worth the trouble.
Name calling doesn't make much of a point, but somehow "POOR BABY" did ring a bell. There was something about Palin that went on the attack in Doberman mode one moment, then went into crying mode about the way everyone was ganging up on her the next. It is true, politicians need backbone. One thing about Obama is he can just take criticism in stride, and even admit he screwed up. Stupid, Palin is not. She's got a sharp mind, at least for her own political advantage. No idea if she's a bad mother, I've never been part of her family. I think her daughter recently observed "everyone should be abstinent, but abstinence is not realistic." That says it all for the abstinence issue. I really don't think Palin is coming back as a national figure, and all the movies in the world won't put her back together again. Before McCain tapped her for veep, wasn't there an interview where she said she doesn't have a problem with Obama seeming, at that time, to do well in the polls in Alaska? Because she doesn't get along well with the Republican establishment anyway?
Here is a good measure of the disillusionment:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/01/opinion/01rich….
[...] What resulted was an interview that may have been truly unique in the history of cable news. I started by thanking her for giving me the fodder for, “Media Malpractice 2: The Sequel” (still only in the imaginary stage) and then proceeded to tell her she should have been fired rather than rewarded for her Palin/Obama “terrorist” comment. The hilarity ensued from there. You can see it all here. [...]
1. Liberals don't use terms like Republican? What a crock. They routinely use the term Republican to rail against ANYTHING that is said or done against their agenda JUST to blanket the Republican party under one umbrella.
2. Liberals were "given" one radio station? What a dumb statement. They, using the free market, started a network and it tanked. No one was "Given" anything.
I don't know what parallel universe you're living it, but it ain't this one!
[...] can attest, it’s not as though MS-NBC encourages honest debate or objective reporting. She crossed swords with John a few times over Media Malpractice, but John wasn’t an unprepared 17-year-old waiting for a [...]
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