Reaction To My Palin Interview Proves The Point
by John ZieglerUnless you were hanging out with Joe the Plumber in Gaza this past week, you probably heard that I did an exclusive interview with Governor Sarah Palin for my forthcoming documentary, “Media Malpractice… How Obama Got Elected and Palin Was Smeared.”
The reaction to the interview excerpts has been far more intense and far more deranged than I expected. Quite simply, the media response has done more to prove the basic point of the documentary than just about anything I could have produced in the film.
Here are just a few ways in which this episode felt like I had suddenly become Alice in Wonderland (without the dress or blond hair).
Governor Palin’s comments about being taken out of context were clearly taken out of context and her statements that they were being taken out of context were themselves taken out of context in a blatant, though thus far, unsuccessful attempt to turn the Governor and I against each other.
The Governor’s measured, rational and accurate attempts to correct the historical record about the basis for which a Presidential election was decided were “reported” by the left as being “whiny,” “catty” and “delusional.” Folks, there’s a reason why there’s such a thing as a war crimes tribunal; some things you just have to get to the bottom of.
Palin’s incredibly mild and humorous pushback against two very grownup media stars (Katie Couric and Tina Fey) who clearly had it out for her, helped destroy her candidacy and who benefited greatly from doing so, was somehow “reported” as an “attack,” “taking shots,” and “not taking responsibility.” Please. This is almost like ripping a Jew for making a Nazi joke (No doubt, THAT will also be taken out of context).
Both the vaunted New York Times and the tiny liberal rag, the Alaska Dispatch (it was difficult to tell them apart since neither bothered to contact me before writing very deceiving pieces), figured out a way to discuss everything about the interview excerpts except the primary issue, which, of course, was their own malfeasance during the campaign. It’s become patently obvious we’ve reached a point where, especially when you’re a conservative, blatant bias, combined with the incredible shrinking attention span of the media and public, make it absolutely impossible to get a message out that is remotely nuanced. And once conventional wisdom is cemented, even when done so by a comedian on SNL with a clear agenda, there’s virtually no chance to set the record straight (again, especially if you’re a conservative and even more so if you’re seen in any way as a threat to Barack Obama).
While I’ve been most concerned with the unfair assaults on Governor Palin and the ignoring of the basic truths she reveals in our interview, I’ve also taken more than my share of shrapnel. It began with a bizarre appearance on MSNBC with David Shuster.
Instead of even bothering to pretend to find out the background of the interview or the nature of the “real Sarah Palin” (forget about why I did the interview or why I’m making a documentary), you would have thought I’d been accused of a major crime. I guess at MSNBC trying to get out the truth about Barack Obama and Sarah Palin may indeed qualify as such.
Judge for yourself how this episode went down:
At one point after that appearance I was booked to do three more spots on Obama’s pet network (two of which had already been scheduled) as well as two more on Fox, one on CNN and one on Saturday’s version of the “Today Show.”
Next up was a live shot with Norah O’Donnell, with whom I’d gotten along great with the previous day during a lengthy interview (only 6.3 seconds of which was actually used, I believe) for that morning’s “Today Show.” After waiting around 30 minutes watching their largely non-condemning coverage of the post-impeachment press conference of Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich, I was not happy.
When O’Donnell hit me on the air with a totally out of context statement from the Governor’s office I hadn’t seen that made it sound like they thought I had misled them, I thankfully and correctly didn’t believe her and tossed the question aside. But on the follow up I let loose.
Here’s what that looked like:
After that, I was suddenly bumped from “Hardball” on MSNBC, which I was very much looking forward to. (Chris Matthews is not only one of the stars of my new documentary, he also grew up with my deceased mother and many of my aunts and uncles in the Somerton section of Philadelphia. The only time I met Chris was at the home of my grandfather who passed away the day after the Palin interview). I didn’t view the cancellation as a coincidence. I was also bumped from “No Bias, No Bull” on CNN, which I had really wanted to do, if only for the inherent irony in it.
As for Keith Olbermann, he cherry picked an inaccurate description I gave (and have since corrected after being able to view a tape that I previously didn’t know existed) about how the Governor reacted to seeing his photo. It is my only regret of this entire bizarre week that I was not more accurate in that initial post for Big Hollywood and gave that professional liar even more of a chance to gloat over being called “evil” (doesn’t THAT say everything about MSNBC) than was warranted by the facts. He, of course, did not have the courage to even pretend to have me on his show.
Finally, Shuster, I guess feeling he hadn’t gotten much of me the first time, heavily promoted a “rematch” on his afternoon show. His behavior and journalistic ethics (is there such a thing any more?) hadn’t improved in the ensuing few hours between confrontations.
Here’s Round #2:
The next day I received a call at home from Governor Palin. We briefly discussed a miscommunication with her staff that led to some on the Alaska state side (who had nothing to do with the actual interview, which was conducted at her home) to be unprepared for the coming storm even though I had informed my contact person of my intentions the morning before the story broke open on Big Hollywood and Drudge.
The Governor also mentioned she had watched my first documentary, “Blocking the Path to 9/11,” and thought it highlighted just how deep the issue of media bias really goes. But mostly we discussed how the pathetic news coverage of this event proves the need for my new documentary. I think this episode has strengthened the resolve of both of us, each in our own way, to keep fighting to get the truth out on this subject. Once again, I was amazed at her courage to not back down when the average politician would do a George W. Bush and just lie in the fetal position. Sarah Palin is apparently no George Bush, and for that we should all be thankful.
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"A woman who doesn’t support woman’s rights is nothing short of a retard. Oh wait, that’s right. She’s got retard genes in her blood."
LODO GRDZAK,
Since you are full of extraordinary wit and intelligence perhaps you can get a job changing Al Franken's diapers? He loves brown-nosers, the dirtier the better in fact.
John Ziegler is a defensive, unemployable punk and Sarah Palin is an incompetent ignoramus. We need these mutants for their comedic value alone. Palin in 2012!
PETE simply confirms the craven idiocy of the left.
Palin's comments about foreign policy "experience" were the standard boilerplate stuff that all manner of candidates throw out when faced with this issue. Obambi himself actually referenced his early childhood in Indonesia. Because the left is composed of emotional infants this became some sort of device to disingenuously create a narrative.
Frankly, when I think of "actual adults" people on the left will never be who comes to mind and I live in New York City so I hardly have a limited supply of examples. The shameful conduct of the left and the media during the campaign would leave Palin or any sane person rather irritated. It was deeply personal, often dishonest and went way beyond politics. Then again Pete here is a classic example as he goes off on some earnest masturbatory riff about Palin's hostility towards certain parts of the country as though there were no "bitter people clinging to their guns and religion" in America.
And what kind of jackass has the temerity to suggest that a middle-class woman who has lived an extraordinary example of the quintessential American life is somehow more removed from normal America than someone who has lived in Hawaii and the mickey mouse leftist environs of the Upper West Side of Manhattan, Cambridge and Hyde Park. Good lord.
What a flake. Apparently any news media that does not repeat right wing ideological fiction has liberal bias. Apparently any news reporter who asks any question harder than what did you have for lunch has media bias. So much for freedom of the press.
Good work Mr. Ziegler!
And, it’s always best practice when dealing with claims from the “Drive-bys” to first ask yourself: “I wonder if that’s true?”
I’m looking forward to your film, thanks for making it…
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The mewling hyena class of so-called journalists are a disgrace to their profession. As if we ever needed more proof that today’s Media is stuck on itself and thinks itself the most fascinating person in the room. Obama just better watch his step, much as they love and obey him, it’s still really all about them.
Here’s a hint, guys. When a person says that their comments were “taken out of context”, that means “I actually said that”. For instance, Palin DID claim that she had foreign policy experience based on Alaska’s geographical proximity to Russia. She repeated that in several interviews.
This incident just underscores how essential it is for people on the Right (or even Center-Right) to be articulate, measured, and factual. Newt Gingrich routinely obliterates these people because he’s just flat out smarter than all of them, and listens to what they say, responding with the appropriate level of disdain. Just like internet trolls, these people have 30 seconds to a couple of minutes to sound like they’re winning the argument (Journalism? Please….), so if the person being interviewed gets angry or rattled (or makes a single misstatement), they’ll do nothing but focus on that.
The problem right now is that there isn’t much of a chance to get the message out to people other than the choir, so when they have their shot, they need to really hit a home run (unlike Ann Coulter’s shoutfest on The View). The only way to deal with deranged, dishonest people is to be pragmatic, measured and utterly devastating with your logic. It’s an impossible standard, but the one we’re left with at the moment.
On the bright side, most of the big Liberal papers will be dead or dying by the end of the year, which is going to leave a big vacuum for people reporting facts and balanced opinions. Nice try John. It’s a shame the message gets cluttered with their nonsense.
Sarah Palin needs to a write a piece for Big Hollywood.
Hey, Des, was Gingrich being “smart” when he served his wife with divorce papers while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer surgery? Oops..citing an actual fact about Newt might be “out of context”….
Actually, Erasmus, she claimed that part of her experience had to do with their proximity to Russia and Canada (including security briefings and being forced to be up on the latest news regarding both countries). She also as Governor was head of the Alaskan National Guard, which forced her to be up on what they were doing in Iraq and Afghanistan. She had limited additional experience due to trade negotiations.
Not much experience, but a hell of a lot more than the guy from the South Side of Chicago (although to be fair, Obama spent a lot of time with Palestinian sympathizers and an Arab guy who helped him buy his house).
Hey Pete, could you explain to me what intelligence and education has to do with a messy divorce? I’m a little confused by your logic. I never said I was a fan of Newt’s home life (or any other politician), I just said the guy was very smart (a fact I’ve never heard disputed except by anonymous posters on web sites).
Palin is an idiot quit trying to make her sound like she isn’t, it just makes you sound like an even bigger idiot, which I don’t actually think you are.
In a way, the above poster is right, but in a way incorrect. Yes, we believers in classical liberalism and the individual rights and liberties as opposed to the Left with it’s belief in rights based on collective and identity groups needs to be articulate, DES, but we individualists also need to begin to think of ourselves more as revolutionaries because really that’s what we are now. It’s the liberals and the Left who are the Establishment and as long as we play by their rules and their guidelines we’re going to come out on the short end of the stick. We have to tip over the game board completely.
To do that, we need Mr. Ziegler and others to make documentaries and we need to promulgate and release them using everything available at our command. We need Ann Coulter and Mr. Graham to act as our Samuel Adams’s and Thomas Paines–to “rabble-rouse” and “bomb throw”–really call things as they see ‘em. To stir people up and to rouse them to action. There’s a time for being measured and there’s a time for righteous anger. Mr. Ziegler did what needed to be done–he called the media on its behavior in their ballpark–he tipped over the gameboard and made them look bad.
You have to know when to use the scalpel and when to use the sledgehammer and there are times you have to break out the sledgehammer. We are now the people seeking change–we need to think of ourselves in that way if we are going to succeed in getting our message out.
Question: What is the ONLY National Guard unit on permanent active duty?
Answer: 49th Missile Defense Battalion of Alaska National Guard.
Question: Who is the Commander in Chief of the 49th Missile Defense Battalion of Alaska National Guard?
Answer: Governor Sarah Palin, Alaska
Question: What U.S. governor is routinely briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counter terrorism?
Answer: Governor Sarah Palin, Alaska
Question: What U.S. governor had a higher classified security rating than either Democratic candidate prior to the election?
Answer: Governor Sarah Palin, Alaska
Question: Which of the four candidates was the ONLY one with any executive experience?
Answer: Governor Sarah Palin, Alaska
Not qualified?
I know.
The truth hurts the libtard liars.
Sarah Palin didnt run for President–McCain did. McCain lost–not Palin. By the way, if the Republicans want Palin in 2012, I don’t think you’ll find too many disappointed Democrats. A woman who doesn’t support woman’s rights is nothing short of a retard. Oh wait, that’s right. She’s got retard genes in her blood. And what a negotiator she’d be for our country. “Hey ladies, out of respect for human life you no longer have any abortion rights; but you can still send your sons to Iraq to fight for oil.” Now thats respect for human life! Then there was her appearance on Saturday Night Live–now that was Presidential! Chick is a walking joke and deserves to be.
Stay classy, Lodo.
“I don’t think you’ll find too many disappointed Democrats.”
Is that why they’re so determined to destroy her?
That doesn’t seem like how you react to someone you don’t fear.
Now that the MSM has ripped off its mask of neutrality, I’m wondering how that will effect the future democratic process. Will anyone not in the most liberal 1% be smeared as a right-wing extremist? Sarah Palin is intelligent and qualified, but her refusal to endorse baby-killing disqualify her in extreme-left minds and this justifies the lies that were told about her.
Actually, Sarah Palin, like almost all governors, is NOT briefed daily on internal affairs of the Alaskan National Guard. She appoints the commander in charge of the National Guard who is briefed daily on the things you were speaking about.
If Sarah Palin was so worried about her caricature on SNL, which though I enjoyed it was over the top, why did she appear on the show? Appearing right next to her caricature did nothing but cement THAT visual image and stereotype in the American minds all over the nation, whether they were Republican or Democrat or a third party. That, to me, shows an extrodinary lack of judgment. To then turn around and complain about the very caricature she apparently supported, is simply whining. Her political acumen might work well for Alaska, but I think it is a major failure for the national scene.
Great stuff John. Gotta say when they start using your words out of context to bolster their own flimsy arguement you know you won the debate. Awesome stuff dude.
2008, the year the left sanctioned sexism.
Hey John: Well done my friend. It’s truly fun to watch these Goebbels acolytes squirm in their propaganda stew, and the use of the filibuster is one of their favorite techniques. They’ve invested their careers in the Bambster, and any small inkling of impartiality is out the door. The thing that these MSM myrmidons have over looked, they’ve pissed of the people that actually watch the news, read papers, etc., and as a conservative, I believe the real support of both the MSM, and the Bamster is a mile wide, and a millimeter thick. The test is when someone with real intestinal fortitude, self reliance, and natural character such as Sarah Palin comes along and simply by being can rip the veneer off the whole messianic charade. I will look forward to your documentary, and the continued collapse of the MSM. We all now know the slogan of, “speaking truth to power, is just that a slogan.
“Governor Palin’s comments about being taken out of context were clearly taken out of context and her statements that they were being taken out of context were themselves taken out of context in a blatant, though thus far, unsuccessful attempt to turn the Governor and I against each other.”
Yep. I noticed that. I heard them trying to pit you two against one another. Don’t fall for it. And please don’t shut up or back down–that’s what they want you to do.
Varuna : You clearly misread that.
Try it again.
It’s about time someone stepped up to hold the media’s feet to the fire. Keep it up. It won’t be easy to change the propaganda machine.
“Lodo”~
I never resort to name calling, but I will make an exception only this once, because you warrant it:
You are a piece of sh#t.
You made fun of the mentally handicapped status of an infant. There’s a special place in hell for “people” like you.
True conservatives should join teamsarah.org
Send me a friend request if you like.
You know, there’s one thing Palin probably has every right to be mad about. Obviously the Trig thing. You know what, I believe her on this one. I believe her story that when her water broke in Texas while she was carrying a Down’s Syndrome baby, instead of doing what most people would have done and gone to the nearest hospital, she hopped on an 8 hour plane trip back to Alaska. While a reasonably intelligent person might think that doing such a thing was a shockingly irresponsible act, potentially putting the baby in danger as well as potentially forcing her plane to make an emergency landing in case she gave birth on the plane, I guess by believing Palin’s story about this to be entirely truthful, I guess I have to give her the benefit of the doubt.
Although if Palin really has aspirations towards higher office, developing a reputation of kvetching in the press about how everyone is out to get her for no real reason isn’t going to be helpful. I’m not even sure Nixon had a cultural chip on his shoulder as big as Palin’s.
I love how Palin’s pro-life position qualifies her as “retarded” yet the pro-life Democrat Senator, Rober Casey from Pennsylvania is lauded as brilliant and the greatest thing since sliced bread. Ironic that Obama’s life in the womb was protected under our law. One has to wonder if his mother would have made a different CHOICE had she had the option then? My own grandmother may have aborted my mother had she been a teenager in this day and age. The idea that a woman has a right to abortion is a complicated topic. The life of the fetus is not the only life aborted in the act that has exponential consequences. Though I do understand there are circumstances that a woman is in dire straits due to an unwanted pregnancy, if only these few cases were the ones that end in abortion. Regretfully the majority are performed as a means of birth control rather than the implementation of SELF CONTROL. Even Nietzsche was a big promoter of self control and the art of denial of self to build the self most powerful. In today’s entitlement and instant gratification mindset, the thought of self control is too difficult and cerebral a task to undertake. Forget about dealing with the consequences of one’s actions! That would require living one’s life for someone other than oneself. That’s asking too much of the all about ME-ers. Palin may not be ivy league but she practices what she preaches unlike the hypocrites (both right and left) in D.C. Great documentary and blog post John! Thanks.
The only reason I voted for Palin was because she at least knew there were 50 states. And she knew when FDR became President. And she knew that Arabic wasn’t the most commonly used language in Afghanistan except by the terrorists. And she knew that the Civil Rights movement hadn’t started yet when Obama was born. And because her Pastor was the Pastor she knew.
At least, I think she knew all that, only a couple of obtuse morons wouldn’t.
On top of all that, she knew how she got her house for the price she did and she didn’t vote present while running Alaska.
Just think, if she would have murdered her baby, this all could have been avoided.
I also find it odd that folks are dismayed at Palin’s opinions regarding her treatment in the press and SNL. I heard Obama on several occasions lament his treatment on FOX and has chosen to only answer questions from “certain” reporters. To me, he is not ready for prime time. I do think Palin would have served herself better had she not said a thing but Obama complained before Palin ever did and will no doubt complain about and ice out “difficult” reporters in the future. Obama likes scripts that he’s approved. That tactic will only last for so long even amongst his most ardent adorers. Having said that, the person who took more heat and blame for the ills of the world since time infinitum has never made so much as a hiss about his treatment. Of course, I’m refering to Bush. He’s not my favorite but his ability to never complain about the irrational displays against him from the press always impressed me.
Lodo,
I am not sure what pisses me off more. Your vile spewing about a innocent baby or your complete ignorance about the war in Iraq.
I’ll goes with the child. As the mother of a developmentally delayed ( that’s the new PC term btw) I’m offended. My son is emotionally and academically delayed and has a seizure disorder. You are the type that would call seizure “fits” aren’t you? As if he has any control over when they hit him. Let me tell you something else about my “retarded” son. He is the most loving, funny, caring, energetic kid you would ever met. He can not stand to see others hurting and will go out of his way to offer kind words and caring to any one he sees in pain. Defective? To people like you I suppose he is. To me he is exactly what he is suppose to be. A caring human being. You could a great deal from my “retarded” son about how to treat others.
I didn’t MISREAD your comment. I DISAGREE with your comment based on research I did regarding the setup of the National Guard in both Alaska and my state when that question came up in the press.
Right, and to totally believe that Trig is really her grandson and she’s covering it all up even after she was actually blessed with a grandson without any evidence or regard to basic facts, pictures, witnesses and records is completely the path I would take.
Steel doesn’t melt! Water doesn’t break!
I’m excited that Palin seems to be taking on those “who buy their ink in bulk.” For too long, it’s been easy to ignore and brush under the rug. Obviously people unable to see truth in front of their face will complain that she’s another paraniod Nixon, but for those of us with an IQ larger than our shoe size, it’s refreshing to see something so obvious as a problem brought to the front of the public conscience.
Amanda, I couldn’t agree more.
Particularly on the issue of experience, the hypocrisy and deceit of the left has never been more apparent than with their vetting of Palin as opposed to the lack thereof for Obama.
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Thanks for the post Mr. Ziegler. The MSM is dead in my opinion and they are getting bludgeon by the Internet.
But that doesn’t automatically dismiss the impact of media influencing the perception of people. Why is the quote, “I can see Russia from my House” the most popular quote and thought of as a quote from Governor Palin when in fact it was uttered by Tina Fey and taken out of context from the Gibson interview? The press has edited the interviews horribly.
The press continuously play clips as if SNL is the say all of politics when it is just leftist mantra. Don’t get me started on Palin’s appearance on SNL pushed forward by McCain’s people. That was a denigrating appearance where Baldwin and Fey threw every insult to Palin and she didn’t even get to respond. Another trick by the MSM. Sure Palin said she would appear on SNL regardless of that crude joke and shot taken at her daughter by Fey, but you can tell she was annoyed and flustered by not knowing the content of the “comedy” throughout the season after she saw the Fey clip.
Also, the republicans need to come out of the shadows and defend themselves instead of only relying on talk radio. Rush, Sean, Levin, etc. can only do so much. If they refuse to defend themselves, republicans have an uphill climb in getting anything repaired in their party. The liberal media has taken control and the republicans have no response. Yes we have Breitbart, Malkin, etc., but that is not enough. Republican politicians need to engage the electorate. We feel misrepresented and maligned by them. Instead they cross the aisle to join democrats and feed off their propaganda about conservatives and not defend us (ie McCain, Parker, Will, Buckley, etc.).
Their losses in 2006 and 2008 should ring an alarm. But all I hear is crickets chirping and no republican standing up for us. It’s really pathetic and sad.
Varuna : YES, you did.
I didn’t use the word “daily”.
It used to be that the right were considered the racist, sexist, dense, humorless ones.
Nice work lefties. Solid .
I like the way Shuster pretends that he’s never heard the term “character assassination” before. Real classy.
Question for those on the left who take issue with Gov Palin’s experience.. wasn’t Bill Clinton merely a governor when he ran for the presidency?
John, keep fighting to good fight. We’ve got your back. I am looking forward to the documentary.
Thank you!
John, you and I have met at the last two Evans Sayet show here in Hollywood. I want to commend your efforts for telling the truth about Sarah Palin. I think what you are dong is beyond the call of duty. No one else is exposing the leftist insanity as you do. Just look at the reaction to see how successful you are becoming. The leftist mad dogs hate Sarah Palin because she has the Presidency in her hands, we know it, she knows it, the left is scared of her and they know it, even Obama knows it. She ever gets out there and starts campaigning she will raise a movement bigger then what Obama did with all new, young and vigorous conservatives not only for her supporters but people with her mindset to run for congress. She is the catalyst that will bring in new young true conservatism and flush out the weak country club conservatives that bend to the whine of the tyrannical democrats. This is why they HATE her guts and will say any vile thing against her and this will add to her appeal. Keep up the good work John, keep making films that expose the liberals for the insane mad dogs that they are.
I’m a filmmaker also and I am ready to assist you in this fight for over country. You can get contact me through my website http://www.forgottenheroesthemovie.com
Oh, good..this is one of those pro-Iraq War websites. Just for fun..
1. Do you guys still think that Iraq was actively involved with 9/11
2. Where are the WMD’s?
3. How exactly are we paying the $120 billion a year for this war?
Funny that Obama’s inexperience hasn’t even been touched esp by MSNBC.
John-
This is great! I am so glad that someone from the right is challenging schmucks like Shuster and others who are so clearly biased and never get called on it. We need more John Zieglers in this world.
Funny how they’re attacking you when the trail at the bottom of the screen represents their idea of leaders…IMPEACHES GOV. ROD BLAGO….
Lodo, what seems to be your problem? Are you so blind that you refuse to see how biased the media are? Are you so ignorant you refuse to understand that president-elect Obama is a Socialist in political clothing?
Your audacious opinion of Governor Palin shows the depths to which liberals are willing to go when their intelligence (if they have any, that is) fails them.
Here is an undeniable fact: Barack Hussein Obama has no executive experience at all. None. Zero. Nada. Zilch. Zip.
Even if we only take Sarah Palin’s stint as Wasilla’s Mayor it’s still far more executive experience than Obama’s. When you factor in her gubernatorial position, she could run circles around Obama. Not only that, but she (a) has an 80% approval rating (name another governor that popular); and (b) runs the only state budget that’s in the black.
You’re just another example of those who hate Sarah Palin for no reason whatsoever. You can’t elucidate why, so you resort to name calling and the basest of language that has nothing to do with anything. And yet you fawn about and fall all over yourself when it comes to Obama – a man with known associations with admitted felons, a man who sat under the teachings of ranting racist preacher and lied about what the preacher said, a man who has publicly said he is going to increase the federal deficit into the trillions.
You really should stick to what you do best: nothing.
Great follow up, John. What I find incredulous is not the blatant media bias but their denial that there is any bias. And it certainly is enlightening how they are treating Caroline Kennedy.
Bottom line here, buddy. The American public was smart enough to know that Sarah Palin was not smart enough to be one heartbeat or a billion heartbeats away from the presidency. We have had enough of ignorance and lack of intelligence (as in I. Q.) in the White House to last a very long time. Forget Palin. She is a footnote and blame John McCain for putting her in that position in the first place, of you need to blame anyone for her being a standing joke.
Going out of Interest Sale
1. don’t know
2. they are in Syria where Iraq moved them during the invasion. Unfortunately, this may be proven as Syria uses those on Israel.
3. From your taxes so please get off the board and go to work or school.
I wrote about your first interview with that snotty punk David Schuster on my news blog:
http://www.thehotjoints.com/2009/01/09/video-john-ziegler-shreds-msnbcs-david-schuster-on-live-tv/
The best part was when he said “Doesn’t it diminish real assassinations when you throw out the word assassinate?” I had to laugh out loud it was such a ridiculous question (although typical of MSNBC).
Keep up the good work John.
@Going out of Interest Sale
1. Do you guys still think that Iraq was actively involved with 9/11
*There were 22 reasons for going into Iraq in the resolution passed by the House and the Senate. No where in those reason does it state Iraq was “actively” involved in the attack on 9-11. So what is the point of your question?
2. Where are the WMD’s?
*Please spend 50 minutes to educate yourself by viewing http://www.iraqandbeyond.com/ It will inform you on the WMDs. But that said the resolution stated that Iraq had ‘history” of WMDs and failed to prove the complete destruction of such programs.
3. How exactly are we paying the $120 billion a year for this war?
*More important question. What would the cost be for NOT fighting this war? Not everything of value in life is about money.
I’ll take a decent “common man” with common sense over an “ivy league elite” any day of the week. Look where the “elites” have gotten us. So, keep waiting for the next Buckley to support. Those intellectuals are doing a smashing job.
For those of you living under the fiction that Caroline Kennedy is getting a free pass, please go to CNN’s Political Ticker, where they report that her support is eroding among NY Democrats for the Senate appointment. Kennedy has been getting roasted in the press for weeks, but you guys are consciously choosing to ignore that, lest it punch a hole in your carefully created Palin talking points.
The Bill Clinton analogy isn’t very appropriate for Ms. Palin. Clinton had been actively involved in DNC politics and had been the keynote speaker at the 1988 DNC Convention. Palin was only thrust on the American public 8 weeks before the election. She had a very small window to demonstrate that she had a knowledge of the world and public policy that made her qualified to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency. Frankly, she didn’t accomplish that. Every major political candidate in the modern era gets the “what do you read” question, and until now, every candidate has answered that question without a second thought. Perhaps if Palin had actually studied the ritual of elections, she would have realized that Couric’s “magazine” question was fairly innocuous. But, nooooo…Palin had to internalize an innocent question asked to EVERY candidate as somehow meaning Couric was calling her an illiterate hillbilly.
Palin’s chip-on-the-shoulder non-victory victory lap she’s been going on for the last month is akin to the Buffalo Bills’ kicker Scott Norwood blaming his inability to make the winning kick in the Super Bowl on the refs failing to call a holding call on the Giants in the second quarter. Sarah..you missed the kick.
“Brad Hart – January 14th, 2009 at 5:31 am
Palin is an idiot quit trying to make her sound like she isn’t, it just makes you sound like an even bigger idiot, which I don’t actually think you are.”
Hey kid, shouldn’t you be paying attention in school instead of texting messages to sites for adults? I’d try working on that “C-” in English composition before you shoot your gums off.
1. Do you guys still think that Iraq was actively involved with 9/11
We’ve never thought that Iraq was actively involved with 9/11. Bush never made that statement…ever. There is proof that bin Laden’s representatives had spent time there before 9/11. The war with Iraq was a separate incident and partly based on the Gulf War treaty stating that if any conditions were broken by Hussein then a state of war would continue to exist. Hussein broke ALL the conditions and lied to UN weapon inspectors.
2. Where are the WMD’s?
We have quietly recovered some of them (this actually made the news but the MSM played it down significantly). A lot of it was sent to Syria since Iraq had over six months before we invaded to get rid of them. Dude, a chemical/biological weapons lab can fit in the back of a pickup truck…how easy do you think it is to hide WMD’s, huh? Anyway, talk to Syria. I’m sure you’d believe anything they say, right?
3. How exactly are we paying the $120 billion a year for this war?
Honestly, you have me on that one. But it was a Democrat Congress who passed the legislation to allow that expenditure so you should talk to them. They’re good at spending the big bucks with no accountability.
Clearly ‘journalists’ like Shuster are poseurs who have no interest in facts other than how to manipulate and mask them for their own ends.
Notably MIA from this entire Palin debate is any support whatsoever from the man who put her into this media Blitzkrieg, John McCain. His lack of defense for Palin has been shameful considering that it was the incompetent hacks in his campaign that bungled Palin’s rollout.
As to Palin herself, the truth is that if she wants to make a serious push for the national stage she is going to have to work on her ability to communicate more deftly particularly with antagonistic interviewers. If she thought they were gunning for her in 08, they will be loaded for bear in 2012, and she had better be well educated, nimble on her feet and ready for anything, which she was not in 08. She is going to have to be faster and clearly more prepared than her Democrat opponents because the media is so deeply in the tank for the Dems.
“Oh, good..this is one of those pro-Iraq War websites. Just for fun..
1. Do you guys still think that Iraq was actively involved with 9/11
2. Where are the WMD’s?
3. How exactly are we paying the $120 billion a year for this war?”
1. This is one of those lies which moron leftists have been perpetrating for years. Were there connections between al quaeda and Iraq? Sure, there were tangential ones. Were we attacked because of our presence in Saudi Arabia for the explicit reason of enforcing sanctions, the no-fly zone and protecting civilians in the Kurdish and southern territories of Iraq. Absolutely. Only an idiot or a liar suggests that all these things are not connected.
2. A better question, moron, is why wasn’t our intelligence better? Or, that is, why did Carter and the left handcuff them and make it so difficult for our intelligence agencies to subsequently operate in countries with evil, totalitarian governments? Then there’s also the fact that the left chooses to define WMDs as weapons ready to use as opposed to materiel which has been found. And my personal favorite aspect being the way you people like to argue that Bush is leading a cabal of sinister liars yet they forgot to plant weapons to satisfy creeps like yourself.
3. Its always heartening to see left-wingers concerned about government spending. While I’m sure your numbers are a lie which fail to account for military operating expenses regardless of whether or not we’re there, and I die laughing when you attack the government for paying US companies in support roles rather than potentially cheaper foreign sources, the fact still remains that a.) toppling Saddam was the morally right thing to do and that b.) we’ve killed thousands of jihadi fanatics there who came not because they give a damn about Iraqi freedom but simply because they hate the west and thank God we brought the battle to them rather than some of them killing Americans here. Even you perhaps. I realize that most of you people are fundamentally unserious, but I wouldn’t even begin to know how to put a price on the ability to drain the swamp of those nuts somewhat and send the message that we ain’t screwing around to people who understand nothing but strength.
[...] Reaction to My Palin Interview Proves the Point [...]
Little off topic, but UBL just released another tape. National Security Council spokesman Gordon Johndroe said the tape demonstrates bin Laden’s isolation and “continued attempts to remain relevant at a time when Al Qaeda’s ideology, mission, and agenda are being questioned and challenged throughout the world.” He said it appeared to be a fundraising effort for al Qaeda’s propaganda campaign.
Well guess he hasn’t heard about Obama’s ability to raise funds.
USA USA USA!!!
Talk about propaganda phft ….. They’ll never be able to match the New York media now that they’ve found their flag pins again.
JohnnyRussia – January 14th, 2009 at 9:00 am
John Ziegler is a defensive, unemployable punk and Sarah Palin is an incompetent ignoramus. We need these mutants for their comedic value alone. Palin in 2012!
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Wow you know Johnny by your intellectually stimulating and educated statement there I’d say the person who is the ignoramous is the person you see in the mirror everyday. Way to project though. Awesome.
In my humble opinion, the left is sooooo afraid of Sarah Palin that they are continuing to smear her even though she is not running for anything. Just the thought of her running in 2012 is terrifying to the left, because they “Know” in their heart of hearts that by 2012 their unvetted choice will have made any number of “horrible” mistakes from which the left will not recover. Our country will need a good strong person with common sense, moral structure and a better sense of right and wrong than what we have been given by folks who are for the most part idiots.
quote:”Going out of Interest Sale – January 14th, 2009 at 8:01 am
Oh, good..this is one of those pro-Iraq War websites. Just for fun..
1. Do you guys still think that Iraq was actively involved with 9/11
2. Where are the WMD’s?
3. How exactly are we paying the $120 billion a year for this war?”
1. We didn’t go to Iraq bwcause of 9/11. We went after Al Qaida in Afghanistan. Iraq was a pre-emtion (remember the pre-emtive war part?) against terrorist symphatizers. Ask Colin Powell.
2. WMD was found, just much less than Bill Clinton’s “intelligent” reports estimated. Some may have been sent tp Syria and Iran. How ever, I doubt if they’ll tell us the truth. Ask Colin powell, and Bill too.
3. $120B/year comes from your tax dollars. Where do you think the government’s money come from? The same pile of money that’s bailing out the Dem’s housing/ecoomic fiasco. Besides, the Dems have had to power to pull funding for over 2 years now. Why haven’t they done so? Ask Reed and Pelosi.
Palin is Woman’s Rights. She’s a woman in a very powerful, male-dominate, position. She’s also kept her own values, not adopted the ones that may gets her a few more votes. That’s integrety.
The McCain campaign hammered away on Obama’s experience for months (which is a fair debate). But his choice of Palin not only destroyed that point but made any subsequent criticism of Obama seem insincere as a result.
The bottom line is that while their experience levels can be compared and debated that does not mean that Obama=Palin or vice versa. You can blame Katie Couric all you want but it is clear that a major qualification for most of the country in their President is that they be able to hold a press conference or be interviewed and be able to answer the questions and handle the moment.
She failed miserably and in a manner that I can’t remember having ever seen before. Schuster didn’t handle the altercation well but that doesn’t mean Ziegler won any argument. The election is all the evidence you should need to know that.
Seriously *eyeroll* Fine, please allow me to correct myself:
“Actually, Sarah Palin, like almost all governors, is NOT briefed daily on internal affairs of the Alaskan National Guard. She appoints the commander in charge of the National Guard who is briefed [correction] on the things you were speaking about.”
Let me make myself clearer. SP would have no reason to be briefed on Iraq. When the National Guard is activated for a national security reason, the professional military is in charge, NOT the governor. She might be briefed enough to lobby for additional monies, but NOT to make decisions (i.e. Commander in Chief) for anything related to Iraq. The only time she would actually be a Commander in Chief of that National Guard is when it’s activated for a STATE emergency. To say that gives her foreign military experience enough to fully knowledgeable about the situation in Iraq is laughable.
Beyond the fact that SHE wasn’t required to be, except for the problem of choosing a 72 year old man with established health issues as the presidential candidate.
Instead of whining about how she was borked (at least Bork was an incredibly intelligent, educated, and scholarly man who was treated unfairly about his views, I don’t believe SP falls into the same category), maybe you should start hanging out on sites like the Next Right, where they’re at least interested in moving forward and upward to picking up the Republican party.
Oh crap, I missed a daily.
Kinda like this article and it’s criticisms are missing the point. Oh well.
To DOGONCRACK:
Can you give me a source for the statements from your 01/14/09 0553 post? I have a column prepared for a local newspaper and this info would bolster the column greatly. The theme of the column is how the newsmedia is degrading the fairness of elections and the public’s confidence in those elections.
Thanks.
I think the idea that Palin has foreign policy experience because of her non-existent strategic authority over the Alaska National Guard would be like saying that because I live near an airport, I have experience at running an airline.
The actual adults of this country have correctly seen Palin struggling mightily with the chip on her shoulder and her increasing displays of cultural and political paranoia. With each demented, self-pitying “interview” she gives on her non-victory lap, Palin is increasingly unable to conceal her clear disdain for wide segments of this country. This whole “you city slickers think you’re better than me” jive might whip up the GOP base during a primary, but it is a recipe for disaster when it comes to actually GOVERNING the country.
Considering Palin has spent her entire life insulated from American society in rural Idaho and rural Alaska, I doubt she has even a basic framework for understanding the diversity of our current population and the many unique problems you find in large cities, small towns, and different regions here.
Frankly, combining the willful ignorance of Bush with the vindictive paranoia of Nixon should be enough to scare anyone.
Varuna : I don’t recall mentioning Iraq but now that you mention it, exactly what does Obama (the least experienced of all) know about it that she wouldn’t?
Maybe you should start hanging out at Kos.
Tehstupid : The election is only evidence of how good the MSM is at brainwashing people.
Varuna-sorry, I’m not understanding. please explain BO’s experience in being Commander of anything and how the media explained this to the American public? I’d rather have a 72 year old man that is proven with a known, non-issue health concenn that a 48 year old, nonproven man that I don’t know if he has health issues becaue he never released his medical records.
Lots of admiration John. Media malpractice needs to be dealt with, it has become a gossip/promotion show, not news. As far as Gov. Palin, she is able to speak freely and intelligently without stutter or teleprompter. I still believe she was sabotaged when she gave her acceptance speech. Her teleprompter was messed up and she STILL gave an amazing speech. Hope that is included in the film. Best to you John and a BIG thank you for taking this on!
I’m neither a Sarah Palin fan nor a detractor. I admit her way of speaking is off-putting, but unlike Lefties, I try to be tolerant of differences.
So far as her being dumb, it’s hard for me to keep a straight face when the people who support Al Gore and Caroline Kennedy have the temerity to call someone “dumb”. Fact is, I don’t think Couric or Fey are candidates for Mensa either.
If Palin is no threat to them, a dumb hick from Alaska, etc., as they say, then why all the brouhaha about her? She sets their teeth on edge, and the only reason I can come up with is that they fear she is the harbinger of a new kind of Republican who, unlike the Bushes and other gentlemenly, aristocratic, Country Club Republicans, will be unwilling to go into a defensive crouch when the propaganda media starts wailing on them and will instead engage in the down and dirty, street-fighting politics the Dems and their propaganda media have had to themselves for the past two or three decades.
Lodo will be going into a nursing home eventually. I nominate the “Terry Shiavo Nursing Home” for this person. Don’t worry, Lodo, you’ll have lots of liberal friends who spent their lives aborting their children, stuffing the living ones into child care centers and encouraging the right-to-die movement that is now morphing into a duty-to-die.
Led, of course, by the President who as an attorney argued that leaving a living child of a botched abortion to gasp to death in a soiled utility closet is right, just, and proper.
There will be lots of beds available, I’m sure. Turnover is sure to be high.
PETE simply confirms the craven idiocy of the left.
Palin’s comments about foreign policy “experience” were the standard boilerplate stuff that all manner of candidates throw out when faced with this issue. Obambi himself actually referenced his early childhood in Indonesia.
Frankly, when I think of “actual adults” people on the left will never be who comes to mind and I live in New York City. The shameful conduct of the left and the media during the campaign would leave Palin or any sane person rather irritated. It was deeply personal, often dishonest and went way beyond politics. Then again Pete here is a classic example as he goes off on some earnest masturbatory riff about Palin’s hostility towards certain parts of the country as though there were no “bitter people clinging to their guns and religion” in America.
And what kind of jackass has the temerity to suggest that a middle-class woman who has lived an extraordinary example of the quintessential American life is somehow more removed from normal America than someone who has lived in Hawaii and the mickey mouse leftist environs of the Upper West Side of Manhattan, Cambridge and Hyde Park. Good lord.
I don’t particularly believe that Obama had better credentials in that area. I also didn’t state that I did believe that. B/c I happen to disagree that SP didn’t get what she deserved by horrible mishandling of the press(ALL of it, not just Couric, she even did terribly at softballs), obvious naivete for a national stage, and appearing on SNL to legitimize a carticature started on a comedy show, doesn’t mean that I suddenly think Obama is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Or does anyone having some logical disagreement with their party platform not occur to anyone? Do your research and understand what the National Guard is. Read the damned Alaskan Constitution. Follow the press on all sides. Just b/c I can state that I did those things and know what her role as “commander in chief” of the Alaskan National Guard is, which has nothing to do with any of our foreign military plan for Russia, China, Iraq or even farkin’ Japan, doesn’t mean I LOVE Obama.
I don’t follow blind idealism to ANYONE, much less to politicians. I’m never going to defend Palin. McCain I could at least stand behind, but that woman was ridiculous as a VP candidate and everyone knew it, including the party infrastructure and McCain himself.
Dogoncrack, Obama was on the Senate Foreign Relations committee. Palin was, um, never mind–if it has to be explained to you after all this time, you wouldn’t get it, anyway. Obama will be the president in less than a week, and Palin will still be the never-ending comedy font and professional media “victim” with the uncontrollable id. If a Hollywood writer had tried to make up a dolt like her, nobody would have believed the character. Palin is the greatest gift to comedy since George W. Bush.
Cait, that Palin/teleprompter story is an urband legend. The teleprompter didn’t malfunction, so she was able to give the speech that she in fact didn’t write. Besides, if Palin was so well versed on the issues, why couldn’t she name more than one Supreme Court case when asked (again, a pretty simple question).
Growltiger, in what universe is Palin a “different” Republican. She has the same incurious streak, utter lack of self-awareness or self-reflection, and infallibility complex that has been THE hallmark of the Bush years. “Scared” isn’t the right word. Americans are “tired” of the culture-war Republicans touting yet another simpleton like Palin in their ceaseless quest to venerate the mediocre as the American ideal.
Note to JOHNNYRUSSIA:
Thanks for the link to your blog, man. While you’re here calling certain politicians stupid I think everyone should pop over there and take a look at your quality of non-thinking. What kind of kook goes to the trouble of starting a blog nobody reads to post other peoples’ writing/thoughts/etc. and adds a sentence of his own thoughts at the end? Some deep thinker and quality writer you are!
Hey, George: None of your damn business how or why I operate my blog. Don’t like it? Don’t visit it!
Got it?
Simple, huh?
Pete:
Just for fun, why don’t you tell us all about Obama’s foreign policy experience. After all, unlike Palin, he’s actually going to be president and thus have to implement foreign policy. So let us know what experience he has.
Re: DOGONCRACK
You’re lost, son. You have a Talking Point for everything, huh?
George, nobody is forcing you to read my blog.
So don’t.
Going Out Of Interest Sale:
What’s your problem? You’ve got your guy. Can’t you liberals ever be happy about anything? Rejoice and stop dragging down Palin. If you’re so convinced she’s the boob you claim she is, then you ought to try a little reverse psychology and build her up so we neanderthals on the right nominate her in 2012.
Oh, I got it JOHNNYRUSSIA. I only visited once, courtesy of the link you chose to add. I just thought others here would enjoy a sample of your high quality thinking.
Going out of Interest Sale
“…another simpleton like Palin” Dude, was it Palin who picked a Treasury Sec who didn’t pay taxes for 4 years? If anyone is a simpleton…it is O’Dumbo.
Varuna : I’m tired of your longwinded, continually misdirected attempt at debate.
Think what you will.
JOHNNYRUSSIA : I’ve no interest in talking to people who are clearly bent on hatred such as you.
Please don’t address me.
TEHSTUPID : You ARE stupid.
I’m not your son.
Tony, you miss the point. In order for democracy to be healthy, you need a viable political opposition. The Bush/Palin wing of the Republican party has utterly destroyed the Republican brand for a generation, if not longer. You simply cannot function as a viable national party focusing virtually all of your energies exclusively on rural, white, evangelical Protestants. The Republicans’ inability to articulate an immigration message that didn’t come off as a screed against ALL Latinos (legal or otherwise) arguably caused huge GOP losses in Colorado, New Mexico, and Nevada. Bush in 2000 was polling nearly 40% of the Latino vote, and I can safely say that it will be a LONG time before the GOP hits that mark.
While African-Americans have tended to vote Democratic at a 90% clip in Presidential Elections (no matter who is running), do you think having an RNC official distributing CD’s of “Barack the Magic Negro” was a smart long term move in currying favor with AA voters. Remember, Bush in 2004 actually reached 15% of the AA vote, which was the deciding factor in the National vote as well as the Ohio result.
And frankly, you guys don’t want to hear this, but a lot of moderate and independent voters REALLY despise the hold that ultra-evangelical Christians have on the GOP’s approach to governance. Have you noticed how the GOP really doesn’t grab the Catholic vote the way they used to, despite Roe v. Wade politics? I remember in 1992, how the convention in Houston was seen as the culture war nadir for the party. The way you guys have flipped out over the Cult of Mediocrity makes Houston 1992 look like a rerun of Buckley’s Firing Line. You guys are as diminished as a party as the Democrats were in 1972 and 1984, yet you still think you’re winning the debate.
If you could actually run and govern as fiscal conservatives, that would be great. But you also are going to need to drop the culture-war schtick and overreliance on military action as the first and only option in a crisis if you ever want to rebuild. The younger voting generation in this country just isn’t fooled by shallow simpletons and Karl Rove style divisive politics anymore. The fact that Jindahl isn’t your frontrunner in 2012 merely reinforces my opinion.
By the way, did Reagan ever balance a budget? Oh, right, Clinton managed to do that, no?
Funny how that works.
Hey Son,
I called myself Teh Stupid so that I would command the utmost respect from the Morono-Fascists on the rightwing. As well all know, it’s terribly uncool to be smart in Republican circles and being thick, dumb, stupid and generally not knowing much of anything is a badge of honor – it means you are “real” and not “elitist”.
Or is being ignorant bad now? Make up your GD minds.
C’mon, Pete, if you’re gonna drag up Norwood’s name at least remember Jim Kelly took the heat for not getting his kicker better field position.
Tehstupid so your real name is? Too cowardly?
I love the quality of imagination among people like TEHSTUPID. Very child-like.
Dogoncrack: I will address anyone, anytime, anywhere, as I see fit.
I get so tired of Republicans being called dumb. Let’s see, who was it that got an MBA? And who was it that failed out of divinity school?
When exactly was Obama on the Senate FRC? He was running for President almost as soon as he was elected senator.
Maybe Palin didn’t make the case that she was qualified. She sure didn’t get a fair chance to. Yeah her interviews with Couric were awful. Obama didn’t exactly win points in his interview with Rick Warren, did he? There wasn’t a big deal about that. Mr. Transparency hasn’t exactly been transparent about his health status or birth records, has he? Where’s the fuss about that?
Going out of Interest Sale:
Do you think that our entrance into that war can only be justified by the existence of ANY of the three prerequisites you mention?
Wow. Get a clue, buddy. Where were you in 2002 & 2003? Let alone 1992-2001.
Start with UN resolution 886 and follow along (as slowly as necessary) until you hit 1441, then get back to me.
Retard? Idiot? Moron? That’s the way some “liberals” describe fellow Americans with whom they disagree. Schoolchildren are no longer allowed to engage in such cruel, thoughtless name-calling–its “bullying.” But you adults indulging in hate speech here ought to be ashamed. The Nazis, BTW, zealously murdered those they considered “feebleminded,” so you’re in good company.
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