FOLK LIES: Joni Mitchell Outs Bob Dylan
by Jonny Whiteside“Bob [Dylan] is not authentic at all. He’s a plagiarist, and his name and voice are fake. Everything about Bob is a deception. We are like night and day, he and I.” — Joni Mitchell, Los Angeles Times, April 22, 2010
Caterwauling Canuck “folk singer” Joni Mitchell got just about everybody riled up with that sweet morsel of self-serving insight, but the real shock is not that Mitchell is absolutely correct but that someone finally came out and said it. After decades of carefully manicured deification by Columbia Records, brain-dead rock critics and the slimy elite institution that elevated such barely able snake-oil salesmen as Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger to celestial heights, it’s high time to flout indoctrination and examine Dylan’s track record as a Grade-A phony.

Most Dylan fans would be stunned to realize that his vocal style (for lack of a better term) was high-jacked, in its entirety, from long-dead bluegrass-country singer Carter Stanley. We’re not talking about an influence, like Lefty Frizzell for Merle Haggard, but a total appropriation of Stanley’s highly idiosyncratic approach. A counterfeit from the get-go, once Dylan realized what an advantage his audience’s innate ignorance was, he’s exploited it ever since.
Just type “Bob Dylan plagiarism” into your friendly search engine, and a plethora of questionable circumstances pop up, enrobing the singer almost as completely as his years of reflexive media fawning have. Documented from his teenage start, when he submitted a hand written, thinly revised version of country star Hank Snow’s “Little Buddy” for publication as an original poem, to his 1963 pilferage of Irish poet Dominic Behan’s “Patriot Game”’s melody for the similarly slanted Dylan tune “With God on Our Side” to songwriter James Damiano’s ongoing multimillion dollar copyright infringement suit (alleging Dylan’s Grammy-nominated “Dignity” is nothing but an altered version of Damiano’s “Steel Guitars”) to the naked “Red Sails in the Sunset” melody heist for the song “Beyond The Horizon” on his Modern Times album, up through the recent Confessions of a Yakuza-Love & Theft plagiarism charges (Love & Theft? Calling Dr. Freud!), the Timrod controversy, even the numerous passages of Proust and Jack London that (re) appear in the text of Dylan’s autobiography, it’s a deep, dark thicket of thoroughly damning and apparently chronic bootlegging. Naturally, Dylan has said nothing publicly about any of these, but he already spent over three million dollars defending himself against one-time affiliate Damiano–the classic delay-to-destroy court room technique.
Defenders and apologist have an extraordinary array of excuses on Zim’s behalf, from use of “literary allusion” to his building a “cultural collage,” or that his “borrowing” is “homage,” to the more deliciously desperate “he obviously doesn’t NEED to do it” (strangely, though, he always has). This instamatic, Clinton-ian excuse making serves only to further polish up the shine on Dylan’s teflon hubris and to underscore the blind, Pavlovian worship which he has long enjoyed. Let’s face it: as a lyricist, Dylan is crap, inarguably unworthy beside, say, Hank Cochran, Chuck Berry, Mickey Newbury or Jimi Hendrix (“All Along the Watchtower” plays as a lead balloon even for Hendrix, nearly deflating his Electric Ladyland masterpiece).
While we’re endlessly told that “The pump don’t work / cause the vandals took the handle” is vintage Dylan worthy of class room study, in truth it’s little more than the wordy spew of a peripatetic rhyming dictionary who’ll hang any phrase together as long as it fits. Metaphor is convenience, not expression for Dylan. His songs have also treated women quite badly: the entire attitude of “It Ain‘t Me, Babe“ is ugly; “Just Like a Woman” is nothing short of misogynistic, but, worst of all, Dylan’s sheer verbosity has ineradicably stained American pop music, and we’ve all had to suffer through the post-Dylan legacy of long-winded nonsense (“American Pie,” anyone?).

Dylan and Mitchell
The real tragedy is that none of these very well-documented and nigh irrefutable plagiarism charges will ever emerge from the shadows, as the Cult of Zimmerman’s hulking form casts a very, very long one. Even when the Hank Snow rip-off stared the world in its face, the strongest reaction was a nervous giggle and murmurs of youthful indiscretion. To capitulate the carefully constructed myth of folk music and Dylan’s subsequent installation as rock & roll’s poet laureate is unthinkable, a hot, hit-the-panic-button nightmare for generations of quiescent “hipsters“ never weaned from the million-selling Dylan teat. His socio-cultural mystique is also an industry-manufactured sham, one that very handily diverted attention away from genuine political stink-stirrers like the MC5 or the lysergic guerilla warfare of the 13th Floor Elevators.
As a junta-backed counter-culture figurehead, Dylan is ideal: a harmless, unoriginal patsy, a cute insouciant whose relentlessly self-involved stance never threatened anyone, save for the hazard of the droning lip service endlessly paid him. We should all praise Joni Mitchell for this overdue call-out (just don‘t ask us to listen to her records), but it’s unlikely that any in the Zim Cult will even consider the ramifications of her statement. But when you pile it up with all the rest, there’s a single conclusion to be made: Bob Dylan is an artistic (and ethical) fraud, one whose own fear of creativity has long since given way to an apparently lifelong practice of emulating his superiors by vampirism, siphoning off their intellectual blood and using it to top off his own under-baked efforts. Weirdly, even then, the results have been scarcely palatable.






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wouldn't surprise me
Maybe it is because I'm not really a Dylan fan, But I just don't plan on getting too worked up
Some of his stuff i like, most I don't
I can't understand most of his lyrics and go to other's recordings to do so
Is there anything original anyway? Many acts rip off other acts, It has been happening since the Early greeks (at least that we know of)
His Must be santa was fun on his Christmas Album, though
well, maybe he ripped off someone else…
But he sure made it his own. And when he electrified folks at the Monterey Pop festival by becoming electric- he left the Seeger world behind for good. A major cultural force, Dylan is to be recognized for WHAT he did- not necessarily how he did it. A good example is Led Zeppelin. No one stole more than they- yet they put it together in a package that people liked- and were well rewarded.
Even in our little conservative corner Bobby Zimmerman is liked. And Joni Mitchell can take her Canuck jealousy
(It's what it is- jealousy) and become relevant again. It's been a LONG time since 'Don Juan's Daughter'…
If you're going to emulate someone's voice, wouldn't it Crosby's or Sinatra's? I mean, if I had a choice of listening to Dylan sing or being water boarded…
Wow, did Bob kick your dog?
"(”All Along the Watchtower” plays as a lead balloon even for Hendrix, nearly deflating his Electric Ladyland masterpiece). "
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You've got to be kidding!
Jimi took that turd and polished it up real good!
I'm no Dylan fan, but I haven't heard of anyone suing him for plagiarizing any of his hits. (Like A Rolling Stone….Tangled Up In Blue…..Heaven's Door…..I Shall Be Released…..Lay Lady, Lay……)
……………the tale of the blind squirrel comes to mind…….
So Dylan in real life is like Randy Travis on "King of the Hill"?
Agreed.
Digging up 40 year old plagiarism charges passes for breaking news in the new alternative media?
If you don't like Dylan, fine, if you like him fine, free country.
There are bigger fish to fry than rehashing who actually wrote some folk song in the early 1960's. And if I were even tempted to do it, the last thing I would do is use Joni Mitchell as the ultimate evidence. If you look up has-been in the dictionary there's a little drawing of Mitchell next to it.
Dammit! Does this mean I can't like "Blonde on Blonde" anymore?
O.K. Joni,
Coming from you this is no shock. What is that saying about a woman scorned?…..
Of course now that Mr. Dylan is a born again Christian, he is fair game. If only he worshipped the bear suited Muhammed…………………………….
Also, Led Zepplin ripped off all kinds of black folks. In fact, what musician(s) aren't influenced from history's huge tapestry of music?
Yawn
Yup-yup. Still digs me some "Tweeter and the Monkey Man," too.
I'm not really much of a Dylan fan myself, but this article was so harsh that it actually made me feel sorry for him. The last paragraph, in particular, sounded like a recitation of Pol Pot's human rights violations than a critique of a musician. I never would have guessed that Rainy Day Women could inspire such vitriol!
I'm not much of a Zep fan, myself. Stealing a song is bad enough, but injecting hobbits into it just leaves me confused.
Bob Dylan-" all my songs are protest songs"
His media savvy always made me like him. The MSM always came at him , in much the same way they do to the Tea Partiers of today. They feigned it all, shock,awe disgust.
A fake? I suppose next it will be Milli Vanilli or whatever that name was.
Never been a Dylan fan anyway…..always knew he was musically overrated. I'm just left wondering why these old leftist loons are eating each other.
I'm just glad he he didn't take his clothes off and hump crucifixes.
I can't deny any of the plagiarism/"influence" charges, well-documented as they are…but "Blood on the Tracks" is still one of my favorite albums, and my Dylan mix CDs, questionable sourcing or not, are not going anywhere.
dcase,
That was the Newport Folk Festival.
Deport Joni Mitchell!
"…Dylan’s sheer verbosity has ineradicably stained American pop music, and we’ve all had to suffer through the post-Dylan legacy of long-winded nonsense (“American Pie,” anyone?)."
I don't know if it's true, but I've heard John Lennon wrote "I Am The Walrus" in part to prove that Dylan wasn't the only artist out there who could string together random words and phrases and make them sound profound.
This is B.S. Dylan is not a fraud. When he became famous, he was championed by folk music purists that knew far more about the music than he did. The people that initially supported him were essentially American music historians. They knew music like a rabbi knows the the Torah, and they would have called him out on it in a heartbeat. By 1965, those same people felt betrayed by him for going electric. They suddenly hated him. Why didn't they expose him then? They didn't expose him as a fraud because he wasn't.
Something is happening
And you don't know what it is
Do you, Mr. Whiteside?
NO It means all the way through the album you have to stare at a photo of Edie Sedgwick! Imagine her in her brand new leopard skin pill box hat and imagine her and yourself trying to balance a mattress on a bottle of wine.
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Wait. . . I thought "Idiot Wind" was a tribute to the Left. Surely that's authentic!
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Meh, fake or not it's really fun to make fun of how he sings, especially if you're doing a pop music song from the last 15 years. Seriously…think about a pop song you know and then put him singing the lyrics in there instead of the original singer and it's hilarious.
Art is all about appropriation and then putting your stamp on it. Big deal, Joni. It's just permutations, some better, and some worse.
Lennon began his "playing" with words as a child. And, of course, he was influenced by Dylan as was Paul m& George. See Beatles For Sale & Help!
Joni has had problems recently. She has Morgellons and she can't go out of the house. If you don't know what Morgellons disease is, I will tell you. It is a skin parasite. A real weird one in which tiny fibers of various colors grow directly out of your body The majority of doctors dismiss this condition as delusional and don't bother testing for this peculiar condition. That in itself is enough to set your anger on edge. Doctors will not search or if they do, they can not find them, but the patient knows they are there because the patient lives in that body.. Most doctors dismiss the condition as something you need a psychiatrist for. If you're not careful they will put you in the loony bin simply for mentioning that you have a microscopic parasite. A parasite that if not acknowledged and treated will eventuall end up exploding one or more of your vital organs.
Just the fact that the 13th Floor Elevators was mentioned in your putrid article told me all I need to know about you: Just another soured "journalist" that don't like someone and thinks everyone else should hate him too. Who the hell is the 13th Floor Elevators? I bet you could name a dozen more invisible "bands" just by stringing a few random words together. I do not believe they have the gravitas to lick Bob Dylan's boots. "I wish that for just one time, you could stand inside my shoes, and just for that one moment, you could be me. Yes, I wish that for just one time, you could stand inside my shoes, you'd know what a drag it is to see you". Write some lyrics and a song or two, "Jonny", and let's compare.
Of course Dylan is thief. As Picasso said, "Talent borrows; genius steals." If you want to look at the source of much of his material, try the Harry Smith Anthology of American Folk Music, although there's plenty of other lifted stuff in his swag. Respect the man for knowing what to steal.
You should definitely change your name to Mr. Jones. Mr Buckwheat Jones. Has a nice ring to it, don't t ya think?
yeah, we knew it just AFTER we posted it- darn… thanks for the correction…
How about midgits in high heels and swordswallowers… do they confuse you? Hobbit are weird tho..
Plant was- is- a huge Tolkien fan. And they did a lot of that imagery in their songs. For the most part it worked- but really, they were all about a killer rythym section and stellar studio work…
just like our current commander in chief, he steals his original ideas from some obscure place, so it looks original. old bob was lifting from old music, and old barry was stealing from marx, stalin, alinsky, and throw some mao in there for a good touch.
For a guy who claims the column's author is a little bitter, you sound down-right angry.
Joni was always a scold- and a well known drag. Talented to be sure- but a typical Canadian with big US issues…
Dylan came out of an era in the recording industry that was rife with payola and monetary, as well as artistic, theft, particularly of black musicians. If any of this occurred during the beginning of his career I wouldn't be surprised, but I highly doubt you could sustain a lifetime career on what Joni Mitchell alleges. If his singing voice is a put on, I can think of much better voices to emulate.
I'm sorry – but if Dylan truly was a plagiarist, why wasn't he called on it before now? This excuse that his fame protected him doesn't fly. Come on, no one was more famous than George Harrison and yet look how fast that plagiarism lawsuit hit him after he released "My Sweet Lord"? What happened to Harrison proves that if an artist is suspected of plagiarism, he will be called out at once no matter how famous he is. So the fact that a plagiarism lawsuit hasn't hit Dylan has to prove that he isn't one.
Yes, Dylan might have borrowed, used other songs as templates, etc. – but this is what all artists do. Artists borrow from others – more accurately, they are inspired by others. Just ask Picasso. (And ask Harrison whom I truly believe was completely innocent of the charge.) So this plagiarism charge against Dylan strikes me as unfair and unwarranted. Like I said, had it been true, we would have heard of this long before Joni Mitchell chimed in.
I've listened to Dylan WHILE being water boarded? Only it wasn't water. One night I got into a fight with my boyfriend. We were playing Three Card Monte and he got pissed off cause I was winning all his bread. He and his friend grabbed me by my legs and held me out a third stoty window and I puked. I thought I was going to drown. All the while in my ear I kept hearing Desolation Row.
consider the source! nothing good has come out of Canada except The Band and Rush
Go back to Canada, Joni.. did you learn how to play guitar after 40+ years? queen of the open-cord
As long as "Neighborhood Bully" is all his, I don't care.
*MissQuinn*
My thoughts exactly. Well said dcase.
Hey Mr. Whiteside stooping to use "insouciant" is annoying.
How did you get on Breitbart? Your articles shows little research on your part. This article is reminiscent of MSM in it's intolerance..
I am not a huge Dylan fan, I am relatively young, I came across him on my own. He's actually a really interesting guy.
I was shocked to find out how much I liked him after that. My impression of him was the ever-touted caterwauling. But, I was wrong. And You are too.
I've always seen Canada as America's hat, and Mexico as it's skid-marked underwear.
it was only overrated by others never himself.
Yeah, scorned by lack of musicianship!
Honestly, who cares?
An' ol' Ramblin' Jack wuz a Jewish surgeon's son from New York City! Ah, them ol' folkies…if'n they warn't the mos' gen-u-wine ol' rascals then mah name ain't Blind Melon Steinberg!
I've responded to bloggers here because I respectfully disagreed with their ideas.
I've criticsized one or two for bad writing, or lazy proofing.
But never before have I had occasion, or been moved to say, this:
Mr. Whiteside, you sir, are a GIANT A S S H O L E !
Viva Zimmie!
That is all.
I recommend a different boyfriend!
Is your boyfriend Sid Ceasar?
Hooded dwarfs holding torches, three legged dogs and babies with beards–now that's some wierd
@ ssed Captain Beefheart she-at fo ya!
Was this article actually a parody of overwrought music-rag journalism? Who cares about Mitchell or Dylan?Neither of them has been relevant or interesting in at least thirty years. Not worth wasting all that fury and hipper-to-the-rock-scene-than-thou rhetoric on.
Besides, all popular music is fake – even the songs and groups people believe to be "the voice of our generation." Seriously – music is for fun. If you need some guitar-playing stoner to define your life & times for you, you're a really pitiful creature.
J.P Jones did all the production. He was the unsung mover behind Zep's sound.
Mitchell's cool. Just a little competetive spirit, that's all. Get 'em together and they would sit and play for hours…
Another classic – "You, sir" post!
"Mr. Whiteside, you sir, are a……………."
Yeah, if only your "blind squirrell" could re-write history, change the very nature of Rock-n-Roll, simultaneously expand and critique the concept of celebrity and remain creative, relevant and continuously productive for fifty years–despite the bitter rants of jealous, no-talent critics and gold-diggers–well then you'd really have something.
All folk music is whiny. How could anyone tell the difference?
Folk music craze – late 50s into the 60s. Brutal times in America.
and the hat- like most- is quite empty, as the shorts are quite full. Good analogy…
Beefheart rock(ed)… that, and Mothers of Invention- Zappa's band- defined what is now 'art rock'…
Eddie Grant was important as well… but Jones' contributions were huge.
'Ain't it hard when you discover that…he really wasn't where it's at.."
Actually, Dylan's early music is still "where it's at"….. sorry, but anyone who doesn't get goose-bumps to a high-volume Hendrix version of "All Along the Watchtower" has some synapses missing.
Mr Whitehoue; "You've got a lot of nerve…"
Oh fcs… Big churnalism… This belongs over at huffpo where they can sling snot at eachother all day long.. Funny, but this crit looks exaclty like one i read about michelangelo and another about picasso and yet another about rodin.. Only the names have changed.. Whatever his faults, Dylan was/is a very religious person and Joker Man is one of the greatest songs about Jesus ever written.. He didn't hack that and I gaurantee it.
I guess Howlin' Wolf is a "fake" too, because he "stole"
from Charlie Patton. LOL at sad, bitter, lizard-skinned
old Joni. Bob Dylan has something she never will…a
sense of humor.
all along the watchtower said the spyder to the fly.
I can only hope that this minor tiff will put the 'voice of a generation' crap to rest for good. I can't stand anything the man 'sings,' never could.
Ya know, Joni's not exactly chopped liver! This is a fine fine songwriter not to mention she plays guitar at least three times better than Dylan. She's a wonderful musician. Maybe there was bad blood between her and Dylan from long ago or maybe she just had another crummy day. Dylan's always been misogynistic, Joni's always been independent.
Blind Lemon Jefferson would be pissed at you.
I am no Dylan fan, but one thing I appreciate about singers/groups from the 60's and 70's is at least they were distinctive. What I mean by that is I can hear a song from this era and likely tell you the name of the singer or band. As a mom of two teenagers and a tweener, I listen to some of their music and can't tell who is whom. They all sound the same. From what little I have seen of the music videos especially the teenage girls, it is all Britanny Spear rehash which is sad because she was little more than Bimbo fodder to begin with. Yes, my age is showing, but at least Dylan was recognizable and distintive. I wouldn't give you two cents for the pop-culture music of today.
It's one thing to find Dylan's work unappealing. It's another thing entirely to savage a man whose music and talent has entertained a couple of generations. What has Bob done to deserve this kind of hit piece?
The 13th Floor Elevators were a garage band from Texas who had possibly the first psychedelic hit song. Their Lead singer Roky Erickson lost his mind after droppin a little too much acid and spending too much time with a woman his hometown residents were sure was a witch. He ended up in the same Galveston mental ward that Townes Van Zandt landed in after his parents learned that his fall from his thrid story college apartment balcony wasn't an accident. They gave Roky the same Electro shock therapy treatments as they gave Townes. They said Roky had genius qualities and he was wired differently like Brian Wilson, another genuis who dropped acid and went insane. When asked who his favorite songwriter was Bob Dylan repied Townes Van Zandt..
It's all relative.
Livin on the road my friend
Was gonna keep ya free and clean
Now ya wear yer skin like iron..
Your breath's as hard as kerosene
Weren't yer mama's only boy
But her favorite one it seems
She began to cry when yoou said good-bye
And sank into your dreams
Townes van Zandt
All I ask is for Gods sake do not start anything that will bring Joni Mitchell's voice back to the air waves PLEASE….
Dylan always gets a rap for not being a good player, yet I've seen him in concert many times playing fine guitar, piano, B-3 and harp. Not a studied virtuoso, but a bonafied multi-instrumentalist that can hang with the big boys. Springsteen gets rapped too, but when he was younger, he was known as a guitar hero–and I know some fellas who recorded with him. He showed them all their parts by playing them for them on all the seperate instruments… Drums. Guitar. Piano. Bass. Organ…. These guys are legends for a reason.
And why should anyone believe Joni, her ego has never been strong nor healthy…Dylan, is just that Dylan while Joni is many and none!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Apparently, someone paved Joni Mitchell's brain and put up a parking lot.
Bob who?
Exactly. When I hear Dylan now I ask myself how we could have actually paid good money to listen to that nasally whiny drivel. But we did (a lot of us) and now we've moved on. Or some of us have. I was puzzled as to why this was considered important enough to be on BB News.
I can't stand Dylan's music, primarily because the words don't have any meaning at all. I've had long arguments with Dylan fans over this, and a few have even admitted that I'm at least sort-of right about this. They *want* the lyrics to be profound, and so they read all this meaning into them. But it's never actually there. These fans pick up ideas elsewhere and then project them onto the lyrics, which are, for the most part, completely without content. Perhaps it takes a bit of talent to create blank-slate lyrics like his, but it doesn't take *much* talent.
And his voice is horrible. I mean, really. Just completely horrible.
Gee, musicians are actually influenced by each other, with recurring motifs, themes, styles, and memes. Who knew? They use one another's materials, different lyrics are put to traditional songs–never happened in folk music, I guess. In Whiteside's world, musicians never pick up sounds from each other; they magically materialize from the ethereal divine.
Hey Whiteside, pick up any guitar book and learn that licks and riffs are called "cliches" because they're part of a common language that musicians absorb. And oh my god, 12 bar blues? Anyone ever hear a progression that was rather commonplace; one, four, five chords anyone? And emulating voices and phrasing? And who ever heard commonalities within distinct genres? Naturally, country singers must sound country or blues singers bluesy because of some innate originality that by sheer coincidence results in sounds that are reallll similar.
And of course all the legendary musicians who've paid homage to Dylan over the years and covered him–I suppose they're all ignoramuses too.
This piece by Whiteside has to be one of the lamest articles I've ever read on Dylan. It's hard to know who's the bigger idiot–Whiteside or Mitchell.
In the documentary DON'T LOOK BACK, there is a press conference and he is asked "how do you see yourself" and he says "I am just a song and dance man." The press all laugh thinking he is being funny. I think that is really how he saw himself. He wrote protest songs because that is what people all around him wanted not because he was burning to right the world's wrongs. He stopped and started writing about other things.
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Ditto to that.
Dylan's catalogue is pretty vast. To nitpick songs here and there and say they were plagierized is pretty petty. I think Bob was the greatest songwriter of the 20th century. I also think he sang like an angel. Not so much anymore but he's got nothing to prove. Of course musical taste is all subjective.
I laid on a dune, I looked at the sky,
When the children were babies and played on the beach.
You came up behind me, I saw you go by,
You were always so close and still within reach.
Sara, Sara,
Whatever made you want to change your mind?
Sara, Sara,
So easy to look at, so hard to define.
I can still see them playin' with their pails in the sand,
They run to the water their buckets to fill.
I can still see the shells fallin' out of their hands
As they follow each other back up the hill.
Sara, Sara,
Sweet virgin angel, sweet love of my life,
Sara, Sara,
Radiant jewel, mystical wife.
Your response is actually more accurate that you know. I remember reading a news article shortly after 9/11 about a concert Dylan was doing somewhere in the Pacific Northwest. Like many celebs at that time he seemed to think that Islamic terrorists might think him important enough that they might bomb one of his concerts, so he hired a security company and gave very strict orders that NOBODY BUT NOBODY was to be allowed backstage without identification. Guess who tried to get backstage without ID? Yep. And the young security guards didn't have a clue who Bob Dylan is or was. It was pretty funny, although it's reported that Dylan didn't think so.
Ok, Dylan can be pretentious and sometimes nasty, he wrote some bad songs, but he wrote some very good ones, too. "Chimes of Freedom" is a lovely benediction for everyone suffering in the horrible Sixties, including our boys in Viet Nam. He wrote at least one great song that I don't think he ever recorded, "Dusty Old Fairgrounds." Check out the Dylan live recording and the cover by the sadly neglected Seventies band Blue Ash on You Tube. And when he decided to chuck folk and go over to rock, he didn't whine about the reaction. Look at his stony indifference to the hecklers in the Newport Folk Festival footage, also on You Tube.
"Mine's a tale that can't be told, my freedom I hold dear.
How years ago in days of old, when magic filled the air.
T'was in the darkest depths of Mordor, I met a girl so fair.
But Gollum, and the evil one crept up and slipped away with her, her, her….yeah."
Yeah, they were into Tolkien.
I agree, dcase, it was ultimately the rythym section that made Zeppelin. But I challenge you to name another band that had more recognizable guitar riffs. Bottom line, Zeppelin is awesome.
Sug Knight?
you're pathetic, do you even play music? here are a few facts you left out of this b.s..
1. dylan won the lawsuit over dignity
2. the hank snow poem was from when dylan was 16. no one knows what it was for and more importantly it was never published.
3. every dylan fan knows he lifted melodies from old traditionals and old spirituals to create lyrical masterpieces like god on our side and blowing in the wind. folk artists did that sort of thing all the time back then
4. the man has written thousands of songs and all of them have been studied to the bone, so if all you can come up with is 9 or 10 songs that have a melody here or a line there borrowed from previous works how is he this full blown phony plagiarist. what did he steal to create blood on the tracks, b.a.b.h., h. 61 r., j.wh., blonde on blonde, street legal, love and theft, the basement tapes(which he compiled under the supervision of the band so they must be phony plagiarist too) etc.
5. roky erickson and the 13th floor elevators worshipped dylan as do almost any musicians that know anything about music. dylans the most covered artist of all time.
You might find his voice horrible but it works for his songs. He has several different singing styles. And while he writes "blank-slate" lyrics, he's written plenty of literal ones too.
Just curious, who do you like musically.
Well phooey on Dylan for not spelling it all out in capital letters for you….
Someone's got it in for me
The're planting stories in the press.
Add Robert Johnson to that list as well.
If it weren't for Bob, Joni would be working in an IHOP in Calgary.
I thought Mexico was America's beard…?
I have a theory that Bob Dylan is a secret owner in …the major corporation that I am employed by.
Because I cannot tell you how often his crappy music comes on our music system!!
Dear God! Seriously1?! Bob Frikkin' Dylan??! AGAIN?!
I WOULD prefer to be waterboarded than to listen to Bob (or son Jake) Dylan. Why can't get we have some Pink Floyd or Fleetwood Mac in our music rotation? Why does it always come back to Bob??!
not they- he…
THAT stuff is all Plant…
that's easy…
Queen.
Next question?
Jonny:
You're an eee-yed-dee-ott, babe
It's a wonder that you still know how to breathe
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