Hollywood and I: Both Wrong About Michael Jackson
by Jeffrey Scott ShapiroIt’s important to be honest with yourself – even when it turns out you were wrong. As it turns out, I was apparently wrong about Michael Jackson and I just wish that the rest of the people in Hollywood who keep talking about how wonderful he was would take a moment to consider that maybe they’re wrong, too.
On the eve of Michael Jackson’s death, I penned a column for FOX News in Michael Jackson’s defense arguing that he should be remembered for all his charitable accomplishments as opposed to the unproved accusations against him.

“Sure, Jackson was prosecuted twice, and although this reporter can’t acquit him of any charges, he was never convicted of a single crime,” I wrote. “He certainly didn’t deserve the tabloid innuendos that only fueled a toxic fire that was burning his reputation to a cinder in the court of public opinion.”
I stand by that statement, but there’s a difference between tabloid innuendos and facts, and to my surprise it turns out that although the most damning evidence against Jackson is indisputable, Hollywood and the media have paid little attention to it.
Even last week when the FBI released their own files on Jackson, including one report about a pair of Mexican boys that he may have molested in the 1980’s and a British boy who Jackson allegedly had phone sex with in 1979, it made little impact.
I was never a Michael Jackson fan, but I cheered in 2005 when he was acquitted on child molestation charges because his defense lawyer made a convincing argument that he was framed. I assumed that because the alleged victim’s mother seemed extortive, that her story and her son’s story were both lies.
I also convinced myself of what many others had, which is that Michael Jackson was just a strange guy who loved kids and didn’t want to hurt them.
There’s a darker side however, that cannot and should not be ignored even if Hollywood refuses to believe it. I learned about that dark side when I finally investigated the sexual abuse allegations in the wake of Michael Jackson’s death for a national news network earlier this year.
The first thing I discovered was a story reported by journalists Andrew Breitbart and Mark Ebner in their New York Times bestseller, Hollywood Interrupted, an investigative exposé of the entertainment community in Los Angeles.
Apparently, Jackson had a mysterious relationship with Frederick Mark Schaffel, a controversial gay pornographer who had a history of making films with young adult males over in Europe. When Schaffel wasn’t producing gay porn movies however, he had another job here in America – he was Michael Jackson’s personal videographer at Neverland.
When Jackson allegedly first ‘learned’ about Schaffel’s background, he immediately fired the pornographer and issued a public apology that pledged Schaffel would no longer be associating with him. However, a couple of years later Schaffel was allowed to return, and in 2005 he was named by prosecutors as an unindicted co-conspirator in Jackson’s sexual molestation case.
Despite this stunning, contradictory display of hypocrisy, the media never probed into why Michael Jackson hired a gay pornographer – fired him – and then rehired him to film children who were visiting his ranch or why the celebrity superstar was paying such absurd amounts of money to him.
During the 2005 trial it was revealed that Schaffel had apparently signed two checks in the amounts of $500,000 and $1 million to an account that he and Jackson were the only signatories. Schaffel also alleged that Jackson owed him another $3 million for “producing fees.”
No one knows what that money was actually for, but Breitbart and Ebner obtained a source in the Los Angeles pornography world who said that Schaffel, as the authors put it “had a predilection for young-looking performers, preferably straight, who he would recruit in Eastern European countries like Hungary and the Czech Republic for both his personal and professional pleasure.”

Later, I located a source of my own in Hollywood’s gay community who knew Schaffel, and he confirmed that Schaffel had a very suspicious reputation in connection with the films he produced.
The next revelation came while researching the original 1993 sexual abuse accusations made by Jordan Chandler. To my surprise, Chandler wasn’t the only boy whose silence Jackson bought. After Jackson settled with the Chandler’s in 1995 for an estimated $15 million he paid $2 million to another boy named Jason Francia in 1996. Francia’s mother worked at Neverland as a maid from 1987-1991.
All of this time, I had thought Jackson had only settled with one alleged victim, but apparently he had actually settled with two. That also meant that there weren’t only two boys who had accused Jackson of sexual abuse, there were three – Jordan Chandler, Jason Francis and Gavin Arvizo. The recently released FBI files indicate there could be more.
The next day, I found hundreds of blogs reporting that Jordan Chandler admitted he lied and wanted to issue a public apology to Michael Jackson. The story was even reported by an online European news site and for a short time on Wikipedia as well. Apparently, Jackson’s fans weren’t above fabricating lies to clear their hero’s name.
After persistent attempts to contact Chandler’s family to confirm or deny that rumor, I finally reached Jordan’s uncle at his Santa Barbara law office.
“Jordan never recanted any of the allegations he made against Michael Jackson because they are all true,” Ray Chandler told me during a telephone interview. “You know,” he added, “from the very beginning this has been a nightmare for Jordan and the entire Chandler family. Hopefully, now that Jackson has passed away, this will be closure for Jordan – may Michael rest in peace.”
Later, I learned that when both Jordan Chandler and Gavin Arvizo were asked to describe Jackson’s genitalia to law enforcement officials the two boys both gave accurate descriptions. I also read that when the LAPD served their original warrant on Neverland in 1993, police found children’s games and books in Jackson’s bedroom along with pictorial books featuring photographs of naked boys. Police said that it was common to find children’s books and toys in pedophiles bedrooms because they help lure innocent children.
What really interested police however, was a special indoor alarm – the only one of its kind in the entire Neverland ranch – connected to Jackson’s bedroom hallway to alert him if someone was approaching his door. One veteran LAPD detective who investigated nearly 4,000 sexual abuse cases said he believed the alarm was installed because Jackson was doing something in his bedroom he didn’t want anyone to know anything about.
Finally, I learned from Ray Chandler that when Jordan Chandler’s father, Evan, confronted Jackson face to face about sexually molesting his son, the singer reportedly didn’t take offense to the stinging accusation or even deny it. He simply smiled and in a soft, childlike tone and said, “I didn’t do anything wrong.”
In other words, Jackson never denied he had sex with the 10-year old – he just didn’t believe he did anything wrong. There’s a big difference between the two.
These stories are not tabloid tales based on flimsy sources, but rather true facts, most of which Jackson brought upon himself by paying off his accusers and permitting sexual deviants to have access to the children he invited to his home. Still, the media hasn’t breathed a word of any of this since the pop-star passed away.
Instead, Democratic Congresswoman Shelia Jackson Lee reminded the nation during Jackson’s funeral service that everyone is always innocent until proven guilty. But anyone who is honest knows that just because someone isn’t proven guilty in court does not mean they’re innocent in the real world. If that were true, then O.J. Simpson would be innocent too.
Back in July when I listened to Lee tell her audience that she was proposing a Congressional resolution that would name Jackson as a “great humanitarian,” I wondered how his alleged victims – and any other victim of child molestation felt at that moment. Perhaps in the midst of showing our reverence for Michael Jackson, I thought we should all take a moment of silence to show our consideration for them too.
Michael Jackson copped a plea in Hollywood’s court of public opinion that he was just an unusual guy who never grew up and loved kids and as the judge and jury many of us accepted that plea because we didn’t want to believe the alternative. I ended my original l column by saying that, “Michael Jackson deserves an accurate place in history.”
I stand by that statement.






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Sometimes a Freak Show is really a Freak Show. I pray that the lives he ruined find peace and can forgive this guy.
For some reason, I've never found the appeal of a singing man/child who can't stop touching himself on stage, no matter how smooth the moves. I don't remember Caruso, Crosby, Sinatra, Torme, or the Carpenters, Beatles, or Abba having to grab their peppers in public.
Admittedly, half the Carpenters and ABBA didn't have "peppers.
Apparently the only time he grabbed his was in public otherwise he grabbed some one elses,
preferably a child. A pathetic human being.
Perhaps we could call them "peppees"? Oh no, that does NOT sound right. Sorry.
Waterboarding the Home Alone kid would get us the answers, but I'm more worried about planes blowing up.
Give it a rest.
Hmm, a vague, drive-by pseudo-mature comment: Ladies and Gentlemen, the first troll of the morning.
The FBI Found nothing my friend! NOTHING!…
Look for the definition of ALLEGATION and What is means:
ALLEGATION:
1. Something alleged; an assertion: allegations of disloyalty.
2. The act of alleging.
3. A statement asserting something without proof: The newspaper's charges of official wrongdoing were mere allegations.
4. Law An assertion made by a party that must be proved or supported with evidence.
Anybody can " Accuse someone"… and that needs to be supported with evidence… and all the FBI papers show that they coudn't found ANYTHING ..
He is loved around the world.
RIP M.J.
Oh leave him alone for goodness sake. Until you read all the facts you possibly can from any of these allegations, you cannot form a proper opinion. I have, I believe he is innocent of all those allegations.
He was subject to absolute ridicule, scandal and lies whilst he was alive. Please, give it a rest. It's not funny or 'cool' to do this to another human being.
Did it ever occur to you Mr. Shapiro that the reason Hollywood and the FBI never mentioned the things in MJ's FBI file (mexican boys/phone calls) is because YOU don't know the difference between an allegation and TRUTH?
ARE YOU AWARE, Mr. Shapiro, that if I accuse YOU of being a drunken driver who killed a 16-month old baby when you were 21 years old that may or may not be true. That is an ALLEGATION. It could even end up in YOUR FBI file – but that doesn't mean it's true. The FBI would likely investigate it and if they found nothing, would let it be. LIKE THEY DID WITH THE OTHER ALLEGATIONS IN MICHAEL JACKSON'S FILE – which are allegations, NOT truth and NOT fact.
THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATED allegations, at that, Mr. Shapiro. The LAPD, Santa Maria PD and the FBI investigated MJ for DECADES and found "NOTHING" – or did you MISS that part in his files? Apparently you did. DO YOU KNOW WHAT "Acquitted" means? It means the same thing as NOT GUILTY.
Did it ever occur to you that THIS may be why Hollywood is ignoring it and why the FBI did, too? Our are YOU just that ignorant?
I think it's the latter.
YOU need to stop projecting your own ignorance onto all of Hollywood and anyone else.
You need to stop projecting your own propensity for being unable to discern allegations and accusations and tabloid/extortionist LIES and trash books about Michael Jackson from those seeking profit from his name and his death – from the TRUTH and from FACTS.
THIS, Mr. Shapiro, is a man in the mirror problem. Have you looked into YOURS lately? Hollywood not only has done well to ignore what in in those FBI files, but they would do well to ignore YOU too because what you wrote above is JUST as irrelevant and JUST as much substanceless allegation as what is in those files.
Good Day, Sir.
In other news, K-Mart has little boys pants, half off.
From my own experience with a pedophile and the destruction these animals cause to families, I see no reason to forgive him, as what he did is unforgivable. Maybe some people need to forgive their abuser to be able to move on, but forgiveness is not always the answer. I will never forgive the b@st@ard that molested me or the one that raped and molested my mother for years. I was robbed of a healthy mother/daughter relationship because of the abuse she suffered. Her life, for all intents and purposes was over. I believe in the death penalty for pedophiles. It's been proven that they cannot be rehabilitated. The messed up, damaged lives they leave in their wake demand retribution. There are some things worse than death.
I realize that any coverage of Michael Jackson is sure to get readers. But really …. this?
And with a name Michael Jackson would fall for!
Michael jackson was at the merger of a blind eye to rumor and tabloid reporting of rumors, something that he bears some blame for with his "planted stories" of the mid eighties that obviously backfired on him casting him as freakish. Having said that, why would you agree to multi-million dollar settlements if you were innocent? It is hard for me to believe that history will be very kind to Michael Jackson.
I shall add:
“Nothing.”—What the FBI found over and over again when it did a forensic search of sixteen of Jackson’s computers for the 2003-05 child-molestation case that resulted in Jackson’s acquittal.
Allegation: An assertion, especially an accusation, not necessarily based on facts.
I should point out too, that the two ex-security guards who made some of these ALLEGATIONS had a grudge to bear with Michael Jackson. He fired them for violating their terms of employment specifically, they became sexually involved with some of his fans. They may be the same ones who stole property from him as well. So do you really THINK that anything they would allege (ex-employees, disgruntled) has any truth to it? Unlikely. Apparently the FBI thought so, too.
I'd suggest reading "Conspiracy" by Aphrodite Jones. It goes into stark detail of exactly what went on INSIDE that courtroom in 2005 (which THE MEDIA did NOT report). You'd be surprised. VERY surprised. A couple of disgruntled ex-employees of Neverland are featured there, too – discredited as witnesses against Mr. Jackson because of this and oh – because they had a book they wanted to write and sell, too. Do you THINK these disgruntled ex-employees who testified against MJ had the FACTS at the forefront of their minds, or rather revenge and profit? Probably the latter, Duh.
See, Mr. Shapiro. YOU need to get a grip on the facts and stop projecting your own ignorance and gullability onto others, MMMkay? Just stop it.
Allegations Michael Jackson paid serious amounts of money to cover up. Jackson admitted "sharing his bed" with unrelated children in his interview with Bashir. Several children could describe his genetalia. And, Frederick Mark Schaffel?
Would you feel comfortable with your minor child, or the minor child of a relative/friend, sleep in the same bed as Michael Jackson?
Take the stardust out of your eyes SBSB.
Painfully true.
the fbi found nothing
the 1979 case came out in 1993 when he was 1st accused and sold his story to the tabloids[sun newspaper] instead of going to the police,anybody can make claims doesnt mean it is true.
the chandlers are scum,what parents would want to settle out of court if their child was molested,personally I would fight with the last drop of my blood,what do you expect them to tell you that they lied
the arviso's were not credible they told so many lies and tried to extort so many celibrities,initially they said mj abused gavin before the bashir tape,when a tape surfaced where the family was praising michael they recounted thier story and said it was after bashir made the tape.the families involved were not reliable cos they seem more motivated about money than the welfare of their kids.
what sane parent would let their kids have sleepovers with an adult.it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth,it was absolutely irresponsible.
I really dont know if he was guilty or not and i doubt if any of us can ever know.
There's an old, simple saying that the blind can never understand, mariaj:
"Where there's smoke, there's fire."
Oh, and another one:
"If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck and acts like a duck…it's a duck!"
MJ did not pay to cover anything up. His INSURANCE COMPANY paid and MJ protested that payment but they paid it anyway. It was part of their policy. ONCE AGAIN you are not in possession of the FACTS. Read Redemption by Geraldine Hughes.
yeah, i saw it. another 2 hrs of my life i ain't getting back… the LOML thought it was cute.
1. Hear no evil
2. See no evil
3. Speak no evil
Number 3 is to live by. Numbers 1 and 2 are but blindness.
Tell me true, you voted the straight (no pun intended) Democratic ticket, do you not?
Genitalia descriptions were incorrect, Duh. Can you READ for cripe's sake? I mean can you read anything besides TABLOIDS and media reports?
Explain the alarm in his bedroom. Explain the children who could describe his genitals in detail. Explain why he would re-hire a pornographer as his own private videographer?
The FBI couldn't prove anything, but there sure was a lot of circumstantial evidence. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck…
Ooo, I see the trolls are out in force.
Well, welcome to reality Mr. Shapiro. I'm sure his fans still see him as a "Stranger in a Strange Land," just wanting so much to be with those innocent little children, and in some other society (say, ancient Greece or one or another remote tribe today) his behavior would be at most 1-sigma outside the norms, but however that may be it is clear he was giving his little boys more than warm milk and cookies. Like Polanski he used his celebrity status and money to avoid prison and muddy the waters, but the only way to believe him factually innocent is to call you and a whole group of prior investigators, victims and family members liars. Something the trolls are always willing to do.
I always thought that was the reason he kept changing his appearance. Pedophiles can't change how they feel inside. That's why they need to be locked up completely away from children. I believe Jackson used plastic surgery as a substitute for not being able to change on the inside. Nobody WANTS to be a pedophile. Jackson I m sure didn't want to hurt boys and he knew it was wrong but he couldn't stop so he made excuses and deluded himself into thinking (at least some of the time) that he was doing nothing wrong. Typical behavior. Casebook stuff. The guy should have been locked up and if he hadn't been famous he would have been locked up. Or some father of one of his victims would have seen to his death.
You're old enough to have seen Caruso perform?! Wow, this internet thing must be a magickal screen of wonder for you, mustn't it? ;-D
Listen all you defenders. I thought Oscar Wilde said some brilliant things and wrote some brilliant things. But…
How can I condone his ephebophilia? I can't. Being a great artist and being a perv too often go hand in hand. But sheesh, to ignore it or excuse it or say "they're only allegations" that just happen to continue on and on for years is to be so morally deaf, dumb, and blind, as to be repugnant (oh, and Liberace was straight).
Yes, I was molested as a boy, so NO I do not have any patience for you immoral apologists.
I suspect SBSB would feel just fine letting his kid sleep with Michael. A little "education," you see. Oh and if Michael happened to give him a half-million or so to help the warm milk and cookies go down, that wouldn't hurt a bit either.
Wow, coming up on my 54th, that really hurts maatkare (just kiddin').
Wow. Are you even remotely familiar with the expression "Where there's smoke, there's fire."? If we were talking about the occasional faint wisp of smoke I'd be inclined to cut him some slack, but we're talking about great big black clouds, like that billowing from a 1940s era smokestack.
I get it- EVERYBODY was just out to get your beloved 'MJ'. oooookay……….
And if he had been leading an honorable life, none of this speculation or accusations would be happening right now. He CHOSE to do this to himself. Which makes me wonder about you and your morals. I was told a long time ago that we are judged by our relationships. I choose to not associate with pornographers, pedophiles and adults who sleep with children.
What's an MOML? Got something to do with ladies grabbing their peppers?
It took me forever to forgive my abuser. Why? Because I always thought the abuser had to ask for forgiveness. But Christ didn't do this on the Cross. No one said, "Hey, sorry Lord for putting you through this brutal torture, torment, and death. Forgive me, OK?" They didn't and he forgave them anyway.
Forgiveness is one of God's greatest gifts. I forgave my abuser for his sins against me and so much pain left me. It made me a better man (Praise God).
And no, my forgiving someone is NOT the same as letting that person off the hook. Pedophiles AND ephebophiles should be locked away permanently.
Sorry–woke up feeling better after two days of crud…couldn't resist!
You Mr. Shapiro need to really get the FACTS before you "report" a story! Even the FBI found NOTHING and they had a file on him for close to 20years!! The chandlers and the arviso's are trash they are extortionists!! If you did any research at all you would have gotten the fact that the arvisos also tried to get money from other celebrities!! People like you and others should not be called "reporters/jounalists" you people don't care who you hurt or even it you have FACTS as long as you get a "juicy story"!! Mr. Shapiro why don't you try printing FACTS and while you are at it lose your jealously and hatred for Michael Jackson,and his family!!
Ahh the MJ-hater club, projecting the worst of themselves onto MJ and punishing HIM for it – for the parts of YOURSELVES you reject most vociferously. That way YOU don’t have to “make that change” in yourselves.
It’s a “man in the mirror” problem. You haters can't bear to look in YOUR own mirror and when you do, what you see is what you think is wrong with SOMEONE ELSE– while what you're really seeing are YOUR OWN faults – the parts of YOURSELF you are most afraid of – and ashamed of.
It’s easier to project that onto someone else punish someone else for them than to change that ugliness in yourself, isn't it?
Who cares about FACTS?
Immoral apologists, eh?
Tell ya WHAT is immoral:
the lengths to which our society and certain of those in it (extortionists, corporate and other types of greedy vultures, ignorant tabloid junkies like you MJ-haters and the profit-driven media who serve them) went to CRUCIFY Michael Jackson constantly – because they "couldn't understand" him – they demonized him.
THE PERSON WHOSE MORALS YOU ARE MOST disgusted by and afraid of ARE YOUR OWN and you project them onto an innocent man and punish HIM for YOUR own filthy, nasty minds.
It's not HIS mind that concocted all these allegations. Those came from the minds of others, like YOURS. They are things Michael Jackson would never even THINK of much less DO. They are YOUR thoughts, NOT his.
To denigrate, judge, oppress, and twist, accuse, and negatively define everything he did in order to profit and/or salve your own fears of yourselves – is like nothing I’ve ever seen before. It’s outrageous. It’s cruel. It’s inhumane. It’s abuse. It’s mental, emotional and financial RAPE. And it’s IMMORAL!
He WAS the man in the mirror. AND he was the one holding up for others to LOOK. I think it's time you LOOKED long and HARD at WHO and WHAT is in your own mirror – and stopped projecting the nasty ugliness of YOURSELVES onto an innocent man.
THAT is immoral.
MICHAEL ,USTED ES CULPABLE HASTA QUE DEMUESTRE LO CONTRARIO…Y AUN ASI, DEMOSTRANDO SU INOSENCIA..ES CULPABLE IGUAL..ESO ES EL DESEO DE MUCHOS.
If you look back at the original transcripts of that child's testimony you can see where he was used by the Calif Police Dept as they pounded him until he would say what they wanted to hear. You really are the sick one,why can't you just let Michael RIP,sure Michael was eccentric man child but a pedohile,I really don't think so,I had a brother who was one and he doesn't even come close.
Wow you desperate SOB, excuse my French. But your ridiculous excuse of a column is a pathetic cry for attention. You probably have daddy issues Mr. Shapiro. What part of the FBI never found any credible evidence that would prove Mr. Jackson was a pedophile do you NOT comprehend, you ignoramus? Please try and find yourself a life.
Dear Mr. SBSB,
Your viewpoints are so clear while the author of this article seems so ignorant to me. It seems that there are just some people who clearly are unable to tell the truth from the lies. They simply like to fabricate things out of nowhere without any concrete evidence. That's no wonder why the world is sometimes filled with mean lies and some absurd ideas.
May some ignorant people be able to spread news with some concrete evidence rather than with their absurd imagination.
Respect and glory to all who gave.
If the FBI says is NOTHING … NOTHING, it's hard to understand?
Jeffrey, apparently you are not an intelligent man. We really don't want to hear your opinion, so just shut up…
Discrediting the victim is SOP for cases like this. Juries don't convict celebrities unless they're caught in the act.
See the Roman Polanski issue. He plead guilty, still paid off the family, then fled the country before he was sentenced. Every victim is "just out for the money, making baseless, false accusations. Besides, the child was asking for it, older than [s]he looked, and the parents were pushing the child on me."
In short, he didn't do it, but if he had it's the victims' fault.
The FBI may not have found anything conclusive, but absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Are you sleeping with Diane Dimond?? You've certainly learned her skills in twisting facts, reporting half-truths, only seeking answers from those who are anti-MJ (and make their living by being that way as well, i.e. Ray Chandler,) and believing that only you, not the police, not the FBI, not US Judicial System, have been able to uncover the "truth" about Michael Jackson.
Get over yourself.
Wow…curious who linked this piece & where. Don't think I've EVER seen so many non-regulars hit this site…and for a rehashed Michael Jackson story?!
With Michael Jackson in the title it probably popped up in a lot of Google searches. I hope the little creeps don't bookmark the site.
And Jason Francia and his mother both testified at the 2005 trial. That fact got away from you somehow….. Looks like you did not follow the trial of the facts of it. One thing really doesn't make sense. If Marc Schaffel and Michael were such good friends and Marc for hired as a videographer, where is all the taped evidence. Where are all these boys filmed by Marc????? Where are all the other boys that Michael "paid off"??? Tom Sneddon was looking for them all over the world and found nothing. The FBI files also say that certain boy (believed to be Jordan Chandler since he was called to testify against MJ at 2005 trial) told the police that he doesn't wish to testify against Mr. Jackson and if he is made to, he will take legal action. You missed that one too. FBI couldn't find anything on Michael. And they were asked to help in 1993 and 2005. They searched Michael's computers and found, guess what – NOTHING!!! Read Michael Jackson Conspiracy by Aphrodite Jones with foreword by Tom Mesereau. It will open your eyes.
If MJ was a pedophile, there would be way more people coming out. Since he had kids and their parents at Neverland most of the time. Macaulay Culkin was named by prosecutors as one of Michael's victims…Guess what. He went to Michael's funeral and he is also a godfather of Michael's children. The same with Wade Robson. He was also named as one of the victims but he's been always loyal to Michael. He is now a famous choreographer because guess what.. Michael was teaching him to dance!!! He does choreography for N'Sync, Britney and he also did VMA's tribute to Michael. He was one of the dancers.
Do some research and next time go with you guts! Michael was innocent. He was fighting both charges for a while. The first one, brought on him by Jordie Chandler's parents, was settled by his insurance companies. He was also in the middle of his Dangerous tour which he had to cancel since he had a mental breakdown from all that. But I understand if someone like him rather pays the money which, by the way wasn't that much for Michael. I don't understand why the family did not go to police first or after the settlement. They went to the civil lawyer first and never filed any charges. And they could have done it even after the settlement. You forget that Jordie's uncle wrote a book "Michael Jackson was my lover" and that Evan Chandler (who killed himself month ago) sued Michael and Lisa Marie for 60 mil. dollars for breach of contract. He never got the money. Why would Jordie's parent not want to fight for justice I don't understand. If someone abused my child I would have fought. Would wanna make sure the perv is behind bars. There you go. I would say much more facts but there is sooo many that you, Mr. Shapiro, would be better off doing your own research and not rely on tabloids.
No kidding. I find their arguments interesting, if only for their denial of suspicious behavior and circumstances. Regardless of the pro/anti stance, he certainly doesn't look clean from any stand point. Some of them even sound like the same person wrote them on different screen names. Didn't realize MJ was THAT controversial.
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Study your face, Mr. Shapiro and get a life.
I agree. Mel Torme and Sinatra and der Bingle would have been disgusted. Love to hear Frankie's description of Michael…heh.
M.J.'s devoted fanbase is chock full of some of the most disturbed human beings in existence, but I have a feeling many of these comments in support of Jackson and personally attacking the author of the article are being posted by only one or two individuals.
Yeah, but the site has run many stories that touch (no pun intended) on pop culture figures–Jackson, Woods, Prejean, Palin, etc., and I've never seen a response like this. Must be a slow web news day or something.
yaaaaaaaawn…….
PART 1
First of all!
The writer of the article should read some facts before writing any ridiculous article.
Then, I would recommend to read the CONSPIRACY book by Aphrodite Jones, a well known journalist writing about criminal and legal cases who put the records straight…
She was the only one who had a full access to the court documents from the 2005 trial and everything of her research is in her book showing the nonsense and absurdity of both cases in 1993 and mainly in 2003.
Then, there are so many sources and evidence on the net that clearly show the conspiracy against Michael Jackson in 1993 with totally no base for any allegations except the "claiming that something happened"…
BTW – AP in January 1994 REPORTED that police investigation was closed and… that the description of Jordan Chandler in 1993 of private areas of Michael Jackson – DID NOT matched!!!
Gavin Arvizo had never described any part of Michaels private area!!
Why there is such a bullshit spreading as something relevant???
Blanca Francia was proven LIAR (the total mistake in this article is that she was paid in 1996, that nonsense, she was paid in 1991 – 2 mill. dollars – and her son has never made any allegations against Michael despite the two cases, WHY??? ) when she and 5 other former employees from Neverland lost their cases against Michael in 1995-96, and Michael sued them all and they were convicted as liars and had to pay Michael 2 mill. dollars for all the lies they made, and it was confirmed during trial in 2005!
PART 3
This motion filed by T-Mez during the trial last year should clear that info:
Hightlights: Memo in Support of Objection to Subpoena for Settlement Documents
The following are excerpts from the court document:
Pg3 The settlement agreement was for global claims of negligence and the lawsuit was defended by Mr. Jackson's insurance carrier. The insurance carrier negotiated and paid the settlement, over the protests of Mr. Jackson and his personal legal counsel.
It is general practice for an insurer to be entitled to control settlement negotiations and the insured is precluded from any interference.
…Under the majority of contracts for liability insurance, the absolute control of the defense of the matter is turned over to the insurance company and the insured is excluded from any interference in any negotiation for settlement or other legal proceedings (emphasis added).
…An insurance carrier has the right to settle claims covered by insurance when it decides settlement is expedient and the insured may not interfere with nor prevent such settlements.
Pg2 Because insurance companies were the source of the settlement amounts, and the insurance companies make the payments based on their contractual rights to settle the proceeding without Mr. Jackson's permission, the settlement does not constitute an admission and cannot be used to create such an impermissible inference to the jury.
Pg3 The speculative suggestion that Mr. Jackson somehow made an admission when an insurance company required a settlement, and in fact paid for the settlement, creates an impermissible inference to the jury that would deprive Mr. Jackson of due process of law.
Pg 4 It is unfair for an insurance company's settlement to be now held against Mr. Jackson or for the Settlement Agreement to be admitted as evidence of Mr. Jackson's prior conduct or guilt. Mr. Jackson could not control nor interfere with his insurance carrier's demand to settle the dispute.
Pg9-10 Permitting evidence of settlement agreements or amounts would be speculative because there is no evidence Michael Jackson made the settlement. Settlements in civil suits many times are dictated by insurance companies who settle claims regardless of an individual's wishes.
Although Jordan Chandler was interviewed "thereafter" by detectives seeking evidence to offer in a child molestation prosecution of Michael Jackson, "no criminal charges were filed as a result of that interview."
This interview took place prior to the decision of the United States Supreme Court in Stogner v California, 539 U.S. 607, 613 (2003), holding California's retroactive extension of the statute of limitations to be unconstitutional.
In other words, Jordan Chandler's statements were not sufficient even at that earlier time, to support child molestation charges against Michael Jackson, and to now permit the suggestion of a settlement agreement for some improper act is not only irrelevant, but also a speculative violation of the statute of limitations
After this motion, the judge ruled that the prosecution were not allowed to allude to or include any information or suggested allegation that MJ paid the Chandlers because he didn't the insurance paid over MJ's and his lawyers objections…
Another thing to note… when Evan was filing suit he included "negligence course of distress" knowing full well the insurance would pay for that which would pave way for the Chandlers to avoid the criminal trial. MJ and his team were pushing for the criminal trial, they filed a motion to stop the civil trial, put in on hold to wait for the criminal trial but they were denied that chance…..
Yeah, and that's why mj paid out MILLIONS in SETTLEMENTS with the CAVEAT that none of the recipients of said millions would pursue any more legal action against him.What was your definition of ALLEGATIONS again
PART 4
ordan Chandler's stepfather Dave Schwartz recorded a telephone conversation that took place between him and Evan Chandler. On the tape, Chandler said in 1993 before his allegations against Michael Jackson, CBS reported that phone calls:
—– "I had good communication with Michael. We were friends. I like him and I respect him and everything else for what he is. There was no reason why he had to stop calling me. I sat in the room one day and talked to Michael and told him exactly what I want out of this whole relationship. I've been rehearsed about what to say and not to say."
"[Jackson] broke up the family. [Jordan] has been seduced by this guy's power and money."
"I am prepared to move against Michael Jackson. It's already set. There are other people involved that are waiting for my phone call that are in certain positions. I've paid them to do it. Everything's going according to a certain plan that isn't just mine. Once I make that phone call, this guy is going to destroy everybody in sight in any devious, nasty, cruel way that he can do it. And I've given him full authority to do that."
"And if I go through with this, I win big-time. There's no way I lose. I've checked that inside out. I will get everything I want, and they will be destroyed forever. June will lose [custody of the son] and Michael's career will be over."
"[Jordan's welfare is] irrelevant to me. It's going to be bigger than all of us put together. The whole thing is going to crash down on everybody and destroy everybody in sight. It will be a massacre if I don't get what I want."
"This attorney I found, I picked the nastiest son of a bitch I could find. All he wants to do is get this out in the public as fast as he can, as big as he can, and humiliate as many people as he can. He's nasty, he's mean, he's very smart, and he's hungry for the publicity. ———
ordan Chandler's stepfather Dave Schwartz recorded a telephone conversation that took place between him and Evan Chandler. On the tape, Chandler said in 1993 before his allegations against Michael Jackson, CBS reported that phone calls:
—– "I had good communication with Michael. We were friends. I like him and I respect him and everything else for what he is. There was no reason why he had to stop calling me. I sat in the room one day and talked to Michael and told him exactly what I want out of this whole relationship. I've been rehearsed about what to say and not to say."
"[Jackson] broke up the family. [Jordan] has been seduced by this guy's power and money."
"I am prepared to move against Michael Jackson. It's already set. There are other people involved that are waiting for my phone call that are in certain positions. I've paid them to do it. Everything's going according to a certain plan that isn't just mine. Once I make that phone call, this guy is going to destroy everybody in sight in any devious, nasty, cruel way that he can do it. And I've given him full authority to do that."
"And if I go through with this, I win big-time. There's no way I lose. I've checked that inside out. I will get everything I want, and they will be destroyed forever. June will lose [custody of the son] and Michael's career will be over."
"[Jordan's welfare is] irrelevant to me. It's going to be bigger than all of us put together. The whole thing is going to crash down on everybody and destroy everybody in sight. It will be a massacre if I don't get what I want."
"This attorney I found, I picked the nastiest son of a bitch I could find. All he wants to do is get this out in the public as fast as he can, as big as he can, and humiliate as many people as he can. He's nasty, he's mean, he's very smart, and he's hungry for the publicity. ———
I agree NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING was found and even with the FBI files now open to the public eye, there is still NOTHING….When I first heard this in 1993 and they dragged this all up again there was NOTHING to say anywhere whatsoever that this poor man was guilty.
For goodness sake just because Michael preferred the company of Children for the idle talk and to play with Toys, the World than declares there is something wrong with him….At least Children don't MESS with your HEAD like this shower of nonsense.
To pan's peter,
it is utterly false,you must be absolutely deluded to think that it is just one or two people posting their support of mj.he has a large and dedicated fanbase, just go to his website and you would find thousands of people that are still mourning him on daily basis 6 months after his death
like I said earlier nobody knows the truth but those families that accused mj were not credible at all and were more motivated by money than love for thier kids,that is why most people just cant believe them and I think why michael won his case.
Shapiro, how many showers did you have to take after researching this piece? And do you feel clean yet?
Seriously, this was an interesting piece which should help shed more light on the mysterious MJ. Something tells me the definitive MJ biography will have to be a multi-volume work just to encompass all the weird shit the guy was into.
The FACTS will remain sealed FOR A GOOD LONG TIME BECAUSE MJ had millions TO COVER HIS TRACKS. WTF, don't you dolts remember the testimony of this pedophile, that's right, getting these children to drink wine( not allegation, fact) in order to get them drunk and pass out? This was testimony, for freakin' crying out loud!! WTF do you think happened after they were passed out? The Good Lord ( and mj) only knows. Some of these kids were emotional basket cases after these incidents happened, REMEMBER??
What's that supposed to mean? Humor only a sick, twisted, demented,perv could appreciate, correct, jackazz?
Yeah but you have to admit that waterboarding that little Home Alone kid would have been "special" Not back when he was a child tho… but when he grew up and became that snotty teen… yeah, then! I bet Jackson got to Corey Feldman too.
I was a child abuse investigator back in the sixties and seventies. The initial allegations against Jackson were disturbing and his defense was pretty weak. If I were the investigating officer, I would have been deeply concerned, but would have lacked proof of the crime. However, the testimony ultimately collected was damning. The testimony of all the victims was convincing enough for a conviction in my opinion. I must admit to having a personal interest in the case, since I saw two different perps who were rich enough to hire good weasels get away scot free under similar, if less dramatic circumstances.
Nothing will convince the fans that he was guilty. Worship of a human being has that effect on the human mind.
Truth hurt, murph? Here, lets lionize mj because he could sing and grab his crotch on stage, sick.
I'm perfectly aware of the fact that M.J. has a large fanbase full of delusional and mentally unstable people. However, I still think many of the comments posted earlier were posted by only a couple of those highly psychotic individuals. I'm sure at this point the masses on those message boards have no doubt been alerted and have declared war on this article and its author.
It's too bad we can't hand you all straight jackets at the door.
- Pan's Peter
Are you secretly in love with the memory of mj? C'mon, you can admit it to us. In the face of the overwhelming evidence presented here, you still act as though mj's memory is sacrosanct and he should never be maligned, not even with the truth,
You lie.
Ok, you lie again.
P.S. – the scariest thing about this may not be the allegations against Jackson. I'm a little creeped out by the fans who come foaming at the mouth to his defense. I mean, if somebody accused a performer I like of doing something I don't believe they did, I'd just say, "That's BS, I disagree, I don't think they'd do that." These fans – it's like you're insulting their religion or something. Whatever gets you off, I guess.
"…thousands of people that are still mourning him on daily basis 6 months after his death."
Like I said…weird.
What would you know about morals? I say absolutely nothing.Is your Sermon of the day over, Oh Great Defender of Perverts? I hope so, now go home and re-think your life.
Truth doesn't hurt at all. Let me know when I can hear some.
Repeat after me,"The FBI found nothing, the FBI found nothing, the FBI found nothing", oh, that's right, witnesses were compelled to pull their lawsuits after payoffs were made. Now, here is a better mantra for you and your fellow perv protectors, "I am a useless troll, I am a useless troll, I am a useless troll"! Finally, Truth!!
All you MJ trolls NEED TO GET A LIFE. MJ was a pedophile and this article just laid out the evidence pointing to that. Really, your tired devotion to the man is not only unseemly, but pathetic. If he had been so worried about his legacy when he left this world, he wouldnt have done things that put such a shameful pall on his name. You trolls need help in understanding that its not your obligation to rectify his name. MJ had his chance and he didnt and he died with that stain. Now its up to him and God to rectify that. Its not your job anymore. Go away.
Ya know I guess they f#@#@ up on OJ so bad that they thought they could redeem themselves by going after Michael.
Yeah, the Cali police regularly pounds kids to compel them to testify, to bend to their evil will, bwaahhahahaha. You moronic trolls would be laughable if it weren't so disgustingly true about mj.
I think it's linked on PedophilesRus.gov
FBI,FBI,FBI,FBI,FBI. Wow Huffho and Kos are out in force today. After all of this repeated screaming of FBI, I bet you all could use some nice koolaid and a$$corn kookies, eh?
Well, this is a first:
Michael Jackson Truthers.
Are you sleeping with mj's pic under your pillow??
Why don't all trolls retreat back to the pedo sotes that you came from??
Payoffs, payoffs, payoffs. Hard to understand?
Right on, bendeco.I think, maybe not.
you were wrong, and still are.
someone help these people
Either you are lying that you were an investigator or you are/were ridiculously biased!
No child abuse investigator (after checking that facts and testimonies UP) would say he believes/ed the allegations!
Again!
READ THE FACTS directly from the court documents of 1993 and 2004-2005 cases!!!
Its not about the fanship, but about the clear FACTS from legal documents!
If this is not enough for justice and people like you, then…. its about the conscious twisting these facts!
Thats why you should know the facts, but you evidently DO NOT!
Its pretty amazing how somebody denies to read and SEE the facts (simply most of the people want to believe that something "bad" happened and thats it), but just because of its Michael Jackson, he has/had to be guilty, even the FBI files show that NO evidence was there, but… who cares, right?
D'oh, that's right, there was a landslide of evidence he got buried under, not just the above mentioned cases.Do better research yourself.Money talks,$hit walks, so I guess we'll watch you walk away
OMG please people get a life!!!! What do you want to do dig up Michael and put him on a cross and shoot arrows at him? For Gods sake let his kids grow up in some kind of peace.
He was a weird guy, so I would expect about anything from his reality.
But in the words of Howard Stern, "If he liked children so much, where were the little girls?"
Seems to me that NAMBLA is out in force. You people disgust me to the very core of my being. And then to accuse us of projecting? Y'all best look in the mirror before you start spewing your hatred. NOTHING any of you say can change my mind abut him, so stop trying. As per any liberal argument, there is none. As soon as you hear something that you don't like, or it doesn't fit your idealistic dreams, you start pointing fingers and calling names. And then I lose all respect for you. If y'all can't debate without calling the rest of us liars, etc. then why don't you take your ball(s) and go home.
Perverts unite!! Save the sainthood of the vaunted mikey jackson!! Even though he had slumber parties with kids at age 40 and got them drunk, the FBI proved nothing. And his Insurance companies paid out MILLIONS to cover his azz so that there would be no more lawsuits, thus saving themselves millions. And that his own "Dream team" of slippery lawyers wanted their share of said millions, not really because they thought he was innocent, just because they wanted to pad their own pockets!!Oh crap,maybe he was guilty? Just sayin'….
it's just the punchline to a joke that made the rounds at the time.
What does Michael Jackson have in common with K-Mart? They both have little boys pants, half off.
and yeah, i thought it was funny, too, so go ahead and call me a 'sick, twisted, demented,perv' -as the rabbit said to the bear, "sh!t doesn't stick to my fur…"
Since 1993, I have wondered how some adults are dumb enough to believe you can settle a criminal charge. That is not how America works. The settlement that the Chandlers got did not prevent them from testifying or cooperating with law enforcement. As a matter of fact, the settlement stipulates that the only time the sexual abuse allegations could be discussed was in court. June Chandler testified against MJ in 2005. Evan Chandler sued MJ for a record deal in 1995. Members of the Chandler family wrote books about the relationship between Jordan and MJ.
So how is it that people say MJ paid the family to keep quiet?
On the contrary, the Chandler's filed a civil suit before any criminal charges could be established (MJ was never charged). They used their son for money.
MJ fans are aware of the allegations in 1993, the trial in 2005, and the just released FBI reports.
Maybe reporting allegations as fact will trick some, but no MJ's fanbase.
But shit comes out of your mouth.Funny or not.
When you get the shit out of your ears, for starters
i know! they crawled out of the woodwork, or from under the rocks, or wherever these sorts usually hang out. this must have been posted on NAMBLA's site…
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