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		<title>By: rono3849</title>
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		<dc:creator>rono3849</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 05:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Letterman has lost it. He&#039;s a bitter old fart. He isn&#039;t funny anymore, that&#039;s why Leno clobbers him nightly. Unlike Johnny Carson, he has no class. It&#039;s time to hang it up Dave. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Letterman has lost it. He&#039;s a bitter old fart. He isn&#039;t funny anymore, that&#039;s why Leno clobbers him nightly. Unlike Johnny Carson, he has no class. It&#039;s time to hang it up Dave.</p>
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		<title>By: USS_Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>USS_Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 12:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It takes a brave person to display your level of idiocy, NYX. </description>
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		<title>By: Schizoid_Mann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schizoid_Mann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 00:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He that is not with me is against me&quot;           
         
Or how about this one: &quot;evil doers&quot;? Liberals in media and elsewhere were all over the &#8220;evil doers&#8221; comment, condemning Bush for using such black and white terms as &#039;evil&#039; against mass murderers. That was in September of 2001. That was the days and weeks following the attacks. I don&#039;t know where you were, but I could hear it all the way to Tokyo. They even polled people in the streets of NYC about the phrase, &quot;What do you think of the President&#039;s term &#039;evil doer&quot;? Imagine the press doing that about anything Obama or Biden has said / is saying?          
         
True, Letterman is only a comedian. Leni Riefenstahl was only a model/ filmmaker. Whatever. Art sways people. Popular art, like comedy and film, sway a lot people.       
      
And like Leni&#8217;s pointed lens, today&#039;s comedy field is moonlighting as a political action group for one side of the aisle. Right now the side that is in power, a tremendous, unrivaled and unprecedented power, like that painter from Austria knew, was not unrelated to the influence and support from the popular arts. (for the record, I&#039;m not implying O is H. Just entertaining an amusing syllogism for those who enjoy such things)     
         
Political humor is as old as politics. But Letterman isn&#039;t trying to be funny here. He&#039;s dead serious. He has left the field of comedy and entered the area of abuse of position. Carson was against it and said so on many occasions, &quot;[using] my forum for political statements is wrong&#8221;.          
         
Leno at least followed that cue. Letterman, always wanting to be the obnoxious troublemaker (talk about overgrown frat boy - that descrip fits Dave to a tee and far more than Bush) decided to ignore that suggestion from the master. Fine. It&#039;s his show. But, also fine, he should be prepared for the audience reaction. He can prime his studio with like minds, but he can&#039;t control the viewing audience as a whole. The ratings demonstrate that fact.          
           
Liberals cling to Maher and DChics like a banner in battle. Maher was a sponsorship issue, so blame his network and their sponsors for responding to market forces; people complained, sponsors bolted. It&#039;s an old story and one that shouldn&#039;t be discounted as being unfair. It&#039;s like voting.            
           
And the story with the Dixie Chics is the same. People stopped buying their product. And those CDs they already owned they trashed. It&#039;s called freedom, you can do that, ya know. Bush has a book out. Go trash the Bush book if you like. No one&#039;s stopping you. Neither is anyone stopping you from not buying Bush&#039;s book in the first place.          
         
As a statement to the man, President Bush at the time asked folks that they not criticize the Dixie Chics for exercising their freedom of speech. Furthermore, he asked people to go out and buy their CDs, adding that he owns several and loves their music.            
           
Now ask yourself, what Liberal is capable of that, of that sentiment, of that gesture, of that humility? Be honest, no one&#039;s looking but your own conscience.            
           
In mainstream news, there was plenty of subtle and growing criticism of Bush directly after 9/11 from CNN on down.  I don&#8217;t tape or archive news anymore, so I can&#8217;t reference any of it right now. But it&#8217;s out there if one wants to search.           
           
In Hollywood, I heard it from Syd Polllack, Oliver Stone, and a few other big name directors (at that time) as well as actors. One of the stars of the then released and seemingly pro American military flick Black Hawk Down was loudly critical of the American military forces around the world. Personally, I think that actor whom I shall not give free hits to by mentioning his name on a forum was cashing in on his new found fame, more than anything else.            
           
I&#039;ll say this, one of the only celebrities who are/were left leaning at that time that supported Bush was George Carlin in a very good speech in October &#039;01, opening his performance. I wouldn&#039;t be surprised to find that it&#039;s cut from CDs and DVDs of it, now, though  since he said he was making a confession that he supported the government on this one and payback was needed (he talks about the mammalian brain and reptilian brain responses to threat in that performance) If you get a hold of it, check it out. It&#039;s funny and profound, and spot on in terms of what to do about the situation.          
          
By the way, the quote at the top is not from George Bush, it&#039;s from George Orwell in 1942:            
           
From the Partisan Review, this of Great Britain&#039;s pacifists:           
           
&quot;Pacifism is objectively pro-Fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help out that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, &#039;he that is not with me is against me.&#039; &quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;He that is not with me is against me&quot;           </p>
<p>Or how about this one: &quot;evil doers&quot;? Liberals in media and elsewhere were all over the &ldquo;evil doers&rdquo; comment, condemning Bush for using such black and white terms as &#039;evil&#039; against mass murderers. That was in September of 2001. That was the days and weeks following the attacks. I don&#039;t know where you were, but I could hear it all the way to Tokyo. They even polled people in the streets of NYC about the phrase, &quot;What do you think of the President&#039;s term &#039;evil doer&quot;? Imagine the press doing that about anything Obama or Biden has said / is saying?          </p>
<p>True, Letterman is only a comedian. Leni Riefenstahl was only a model/ filmmaker. Whatever. Art sways people. Popular art, like comedy and film, sway a lot people.       </p>
<p>And like Leni&rsquo;s pointed lens, today&#039;s comedy field is moonlighting as a political action group for one side of the aisle. Right now the side that is in power, a tremendous, unrivaled and unprecedented power, like that painter from Austria knew, was not unrelated to the influence and support from the popular arts. (for the record, I&#039;m not implying O is H. Just entertaining an amusing syllogism for those who enjoy such things)     </p>
<p>Political humor is as old as politics. But Letterman isn&#039;t trying to be funny here. He&#039;s dead serious. He has left the field of comedy and entered the area of abuse of position. Carson was against it and said so on many occasions, &quot;[using] my forum for political statements is wrong&rdquo;.          </p>
<p>Leno at least followed that cue. Letterman, always wanting to be the obnoxious troublemaker (talk about overgrown frat boy &#8211; that descrip fits Dave to a tee and far more than Bush) decided to ignore that suggestion from the master. Fine. It&#039;s his show. But, also fine, he should be prepared for the audience reaction. He can prime his studio with like minds, but he can&#039;t control the viewing audience as a whole. The ratings demonstrate that fact.          </p>
<p>Liberals cling to Maher and DChics like a banner in battle. Maher was a sponsorship issue, so blame his network and their sponsors for responding to market forces; people complained, sponsors bolted. It&#039;s an old story and one that shouldn&#039;t be discounted as being unfair. It&#039;s like voting.            </p>
<p>And the story with the Dixie Chics is the same. People stopped buying their product. And those CDs they already owned they trashed. It&#039;s called freedom, you can do that, ya know. Bush has a book out. Go trash the Bush book if you like. No one&#039;s stopping you. Neither is anyone stopping you from not buying Bush&#039;s book in the first place.          </p>
<p>As a statement to the man, President Bush at the time asked folks that they not criticize the Dixie Chics for exercising their freedom of speech. Furthermore, he asked people to go out and buy their CDs, adding that he owns several and loves their music.            </p>
<p>Now ask yourself, what Liberal is capable of that, of that sentiment, of that gesture, of that humility? Be honest, no one&#039;s looking but your own conscience.            </p>
<p>In mainstream news, there was plenty of subtle and growing criticism of Bush directly after 9/11 from CNN on down.  I don&rsquo;t tape or archive news anymore, so I can&rsquo;t reference any of it right now. But it&rsquo;s out there if one wants to search.           </p>
<p>In Hollywood, I heard it from Syd Polllack, Oliver Stone, and a few other big name directors (at that time) as well as actors. One of the stars of the then released and seemingly pro American military flick Black Hawk Down was loudly critical of the American military forces around the world. Personally, I think that actor whom I shall not give free hits to by mentioning his name on a forum was cashing in on his new found fame, more than anything else.            </p>
<p>I&#039;ll say this, one of the only celebrities who are/were left leaning at that time that supported Bush was George Carlin in a very good speech in October &#039;01, opening his performance. I wouldn&#039;t be surprised to find that it&#039;s cut from CDs and DVDs of it, now, though  since he said he was making a confession that he supported the government on this one and payback was needed (he talks about the mammalian brain and reptilian brain responses to threat in that performance) If you get a hold of it, check it out. It&#039;s funny and profound, and spot on in terms of what to do about the situation.          </p>
<p>By the way, the quote at the top is not from George Bush, it&#039;s from George Orwell in 1942:            </p>
<p>From the Partisan Review, this of Great Britain&#039;s pacifists:           </p>
<p>&quot;Pacifism is objectively pro-Fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help out that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, &#039;he that is not with me is against me.&#039; &quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Tominator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tominator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 21:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When it comes to political humor, there is a fine line between being relevant and witty and just being a bitter jerk toward one side and shameless worshiper of the other. 
 
One of the things that made Johnny Carson great was his ability to be fair in his political comedy. Leno get&#039;s it better than Letterman. I used to like to watch Letterman more, but he has never moved beyond his smart ass frat boy schtick which is not that funny when you are over 60. Add to that, his obnoxious bias and has really become difficult to watch IMO. As time has gone by I am convinced Johnny made the right choice to carry on his legacy with Leno. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to political humor, there is a fine line between being relevant and witty and just being a bitter jerk toward one side and shameless worshiper of the other. </p>
<p>One of the things that made Johnny Carson great was his ability to be fair in his political comedy. Leno get&#039;s it better than Letterman. I used to like to watch Letterman more, but he has never moved beyond his smart ass frat boy schtick which is not that funny when you are over 60. Add to that, his obnoxious bias and has really become difficult to watch IMO. As time has gone by I am convinced Johnny made the right choice to carry on his legacy with Leno.</p>
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		<title>By: namwocxt</title>
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		<dc:creator>namwocxt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 13:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on seeing what is happening to our freedom that we have taken for granted as Americans. People are force fed info from ALL of the news sorces, but I think they are their views, not so much news. Political agendas get in the way of the truth, and Obama is guilty of taking America toward an unpredictabe outcome propelled by media &quot;views&quot; that will lead to the demise of the freedom we&#039;ve known and treasured. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on seeing what is happening to our freedom that we have taken for granted as Americans. People are force fed info from ALL of the news sorces, but I think they are their views, not so much news. Political agendas get in the way of the truth, and Obama is guilty of taking America toward an unpredictabe outcome propelled by media &quot;views&quot; that will lead to the demise of the freedom we&#39;ve known and treasured.</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 00:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>  Good idea. Meanwhile, I don&#039;t know what Conan&#039;s politics are these days, but we knew each other in high school. The very last time I saw him was at a hometown party at theend of our first semesters in college. Conan was at Harvard and he confided to me,( presumably as one subversive conservative to another), the hilarious news that he had the same Spanish prof who decades earlier had gotten Ted Kennedy expelled for cheating. I had been aware of the Ted Kennedy cheating rumor for years, but this was confirmation, and Conan told me that apparently Ted had paid another student to take a quiz for him. Moron. LIke the Spanish prof wouldn&#039;t notice that Joe Kennedy&#039;s son&#039;s appearance had changed. Maybe Ted just assumed the prof would look the other way. That was probably what usually happened. 
 
   Anyway, if Conan wasn&#039;t a wild-eyed lib at the People&#039;s Republic of Brookline High, he probably has the sense and spine not to be one now. He was a very nice, no BS kind of guy. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good idea. Meanwhile, I don&#039;t know what Conan&#039;s politics are these days, but we knew each other in high school. The very last time I saw him was at a hometown party at theend of our first semesters in college. Conan was at Harvard and he confided to me,( presumably as one subversive conservative to another), the hilarious news that he had the same Spanish prof who decades earlier had gotten Ted Kennedy expelled for cheating. I had been aware of the Ted Kennedy cheating rumor for years, but this was confirmation, and Conan told me that apparently Ted had paid another student to take a quiz for him. Moron. LIke the Spanish prof wouldn&#039;t notice that Joe Kennedy&#039;s son&#039;s appearance had changed. Maybe Ted just assumed the prof would look the other way. That was probably what usually happened. </p>
<p>   Anyway, if Conan wasn&#039;t a wild-eyed lib at the People&#039;s Republic of Brookline High, he probably has the sense and spine not to be one now. He was a very nice, no BS kind of guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 22:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Letterman might joke about Obama after the President&#039;s precious precarious polls shatters &amp; his vaunted hyperbole so-called popularity, created by the MSM sycophant echo chamber, tumbles. The problem remains Obama makes so many glaring gaffes daily; he is ripe for comedy NOW. David Letterman &amp; the other liberal comedians are drooling cowards.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Letterman might joke about Obama after the President&#039;s precious precarious polls shatters &amp; his vaunted hyperbole so-called popularity, created by the MSM sycophant echo chamber, tumbles. The problem remains Obama makes so many glaring gaffes daily; he is ripe for comedy NOW. David Letterman &amp; the other liberal comedians are drooling cowards.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 21:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daily Kos </description>
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		<title>By: Sebastian Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 21:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Letterman was once a grape--either white, purple, or red--growing on the vine, but over time, the sun shriveled the might grape into a raisin. Raisin&#039;s are fine, but I&#039;m expecting a grape. He&#039;s a really sour raisin too.  
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Letterman was once a grape&#8211;either white, purple, or red&#8211;growing on the vine, but over time, the sun shriveled the might grape into a raisin. Raisin&#039;s are fine, but I&#039;m expecting a grape. He&#039;s a really sour raisin too.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Jena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Jena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 20:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry that should say  &quot;memo&quot; and &quot;criminal&quot; </description>
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