ObamaCare: From the People Who Brought You the Post Office
by Joseph C. PhillipsThe narrative currently being written by the new left posits that opposition to their attempts to reform health care is fueled by political impotence, crackpot extremism and racism. Alas, elected officials demonstrating contempt for the people they represent has sadly become the rule rather than the exception. Calling the American people Nazis and fools may make a more compelling story than the truth, but it will not alter the fact that Americans simply do not want the expensive, top-heavy government healthcare boondoggle currently being stuffed down their throats.
The new left is always convinced they are the smartest folks in the room. We hear some version of their arrogance all the time: they know better how manage our retirement dollars; they know better how to manage private industry, they know better how to deliver health care. The American people may be many things, but contrary to the tale being spun by the new left, they are not a bunch of dull-witted penny stinkers. Even when our math is poor our noses can smell a pile of political doggy doo a mile away.
The president continues to promise that this reform – the substance of which members of congress won’t read because they can’t understand it without lawyers sitting nearby – will expand coverage to 47 million people, cut prices (not costs) and improve quality without adding to the budget deficit. Politicians have a nasty habit of promising champagne and caviar and delivering cheap wine and fish bait.
The Congressional Budget Office has concluded that the Obama plan would not reduce the burden on the federal treasury. CBO Director Doug Elmendorf testified to the contrary: “In the legislation that has been reported we don’t see the sort of fundamental changes that would be necessary to reduce the trajectory of federal spending by a significant amount. And on the contrary, the legislation significantly expands the federal responsibility for health costs. … [The government public option for health insurance] raises the amount of [spending] that is growing at this unsustainable rate.”
Said responsibility will cost the federal government $1.5 trillion over the next 10 years adding $65 billion per year to the deficit even with all the new taxes democrats are proposing. This of course begs the question: If in truth the Obama plan will reduce costs why must we raise taxes to pay for it?
Americans understand that under the government plan costs will go up not down and the only way government can control costs is through rationing services.
The house bill creates a new “Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research” to gather data and to determine which treatments are the most cost- and/or clinically effective in handling particular medical cases. A panel of “experts” chosen by politicians to decide what is the best and most cost effective, one size fits all treatment does not sound like better quality medical care – not to most Americans and not to the British that are suffering under the auspices of the National Institute for Clinical Excellence. This is the British government bureaucracy that decides which drugs will be available for their National Health Service.
Cost effectiveness is the job of NICE and indeed the institute has a habit of denying drugs based on their cost while ignoring their effectiveness. Most recently the institute denied four new drugs to cancer patients because they are too expensive. Those drugs by the way are available to American cancer patients under our pitiful system. No doubt this is one reason cancer survivor rates in America are the highest in the world while the Brits flirt with the lowest in Europe.
Perhaps nothing better illustrates the arrogance of the new left than a statement the President made during a televised (yet again!) New Hampshire town hall meeting on healthcare. Tap-dancing like Sammy Davis Jr., the President said, “If you think about it UPS and FedEx are doing just fine. It’s the Post office that’s always having problems.” 50 million Americans all shouted to their televisions all at once, “Exactly Mr. President!” There is absolutely zero reason to believe that the same problems afflicting the government run post office will not be present in a government run healthcare system.
Democrats disparaging voters and telling those that disagree with them to sit down and shut up may demonstrate some political savvy of which I am unaware. Ultimately, however, it will never make up for the fact that they have offered a plan for healthcare reform that simply doesn’t pass the smell test.





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"…the President said, “If you think about it UPS and FedEx are doing just fine. It’s the Post office that’s always having problems.” 50 million Americans all shouted to their televisions all at once, “Exactly Mr. President!”"…"
well, I shouted something like that. mine was, um, less polite.
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not just the Post Office but the execrable 'Cash for Clunkers'…
Ask anyone involved with this ridiculous- and wasteful- program that rewards people $4500 for a $50 salvage wreck, or turns perfectly good transportation for those who are needy into Starkist tuna cans- and they'll tell you
that Congress has lost their collective minds.
Considering, of course, they had one to lose in the first place…
Is is more than ironic that the British medical panel National Committee for Clinical Excellence (NICE) shares the same acronym as the Satanic National Council for Coordinated Experiments in C.S. Lewis's "That Hideous Strength" written almost 60 years ago?
Might be a good read for modern Britons and Americans considering the merits of turning healthcare over to the government.
Mr. Zip (remember him?) is now Dr. Zip!
What you do not believe that Congress and this President can cut 500 billion dollars out of Medicare over the next ten years while enrollment goes up by 30% due to Baby Boomers? Common Sense is the argument we need to use with the fools we have elected. Then we need to be sure to use Common Sense during the next election cycle on ourselves.
indeed, i was half tempted to cruise the junk yards and then make a few submissions.
[...] Read it. The new left is always convinced they are the smartest folks in the room. We hear some version of their arrogance all the time: they know better how manage our retirement dollars; they know better how to manage private industry, they know better how to deliver health care. The American people may be many things, but contrary to the tale being spun by the new left, they are not a bunch of dull-witted penny stinkers. Even when our math is poor our noses can smell a pile of political doggy doo a mile away. [...]
Great read Joseph, and again simply illustrates the absurdity of Barry and his Marxist minions. I recommend anybody that thinks this is a good idea should get rid of their present healthcare and until this monstrosity is either defeated or implemented get your healthcare at the Health Department or the Emergency Room this could be instructive.
I always look forward to your articles. You keep the abstract to a minimum and the facts and arguments to a high standard. Very good work and "Exactly Mr. Phillips".
The best response I have heard, when told they are trying giving us health care, "it's not yours to give"
Absolutely…and I spent many years in the car biz. A total waste of good older cars and trucks. Those vehicles are a nice sub-market because they can be bought relatively cheaply and still have many miles left in them (teenager cars, school cars, work cars, go-to-the-dump trucks, etc.). Sometimes they're even better than newer models in some ways. This idiotic Congress is out-of-control, and it's time is running short.
Did you see that the Canucks are finally admitting that their system is "imploding"? This national disaster seems to have opened up other socialist systems up for *examination*…
Did you see that the Canucks are finally admitting that their system is "imploding"? Our flirtation with a national disaster seems to have opened up other socialist systems up for *examination*…
Hey everybody, look at the fourth sign down in the pictures from San Francisco…it's a hoot!
http://www.frugal-cafe.com/public_html/frugal-blo...
Related parody: "Obama 'Goes Postal' on Health Care Plan; Appoints 'Strong-Willed' Former Mail Worker to Head Health Services Panel" http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/08/obama-goes-po...
…or take away…
I have always thought that if a person is smart, honest or patriotic that it is not necessary to run around bragging about those traits: they are self-evident. The Left, being short on actual useful accomplishments, has to constantly tell us either in words or by demeanor just how intelligent and truthful they are. They never quite manage to brag about being patriotic because they are too damn busy trying to tear the country down. So when it comes to reforming health care in this country I do not consider them any more believable than I do when they trumpet their other so called traits.
I think that it was either Boxer or Feinstein that put it best…."these people do not know what is good for them" that is there logic.. they are doing this for our benefit… what a crock….. they think that the American people are stupid and they know better!!!!
how about 'killing off' a perfectly good 2000 Durango SLT plus with 80k miles on it because it's worth 'only' $3400 wholesale? Rides and drives new, leather, ice cold a/c- great car for Barry's chosen- namely hispanics with large families who need 4wd… now they're going to have to spend $6-7,000 or more for same cars…
Real smart. dontcha think?
Speaking of the post office-I'd imagine that our Obamahospitals will look a lot like the Post Office, with long lines and inefficiency, and that the staff will be about as intelligent as the postal workers. Yep, that's YOU I'm talking about. The postal workers who can never remember which side of their postal vehicle the gasoline filler is on. Next…
Speaking of the post office-I'd imagine that our Obamahospitals will look a lot like the Post Office, with long lines and inefficiency, and that the staff will be about as intelligent as the postal workers. Yep, that's YOU I'm talking about. The postal workers who can never remember which side of their postal vehicle the gasoline filler is on. Next…
It's maddening…"green" hypocrites really get me going…they are supposed to be the "feel good" benefactors of this crap legislation (besides the car biz)… and I guarantee you that there are *clever* car guys screwing this program like a sheep caught in a picket fence…
This is all about the fact that they desperately need to get all of us into the pool, because Medicare is "too big to fail." Baby Boomers coming into an already bankrupt system…Forty years ago, their Trojan Horse was to provide Health care to the MOST EXPENSIVE users, those in that "end of life" position. Now, they have to have all those healthy people paying premiums to have any hope at all of continuing their favorite sacred cow! All bad ideas eventually fail…but they can do a lot of damage until everyone wakes up and notices its a bad idea!
Most of you think that line of people in the photo atop this story are either Britons or Canadians waiting in line to see their GP, but I know better. Though Obama has many years ahead of him, these people are waiting in line to spit on his grave. Unlike poorly run government benefit programs, some things are still worth waiting in line for!
dcase, Over the past two weeks I have had the oportunity to inspect some of the inventory that have been taken in under the clunkers program at several dealerships. It's unbelievable what is going to the crusher. Here's a short list.
2005 Jeep Liberty 74,000 miles
2002 Pontiac Grand Prix 60,000 miles
2001 BMW 5 series 92,000 miles
and at least half a dozen 2000 thru 2005 Dodge Dakota pickups and Durango's all with less than 75,000 miles on them……..
They are valuing these vehicles useing wholesale or auction prices. The Liberty in particular is worth 8000.00 as an outright sale
These are hardly clunkers, they are good used cars that are now not available to first time or young buyers. They needed to use the German program for this idea, but our "smart" people in Washington knew better than them…………..
These politicians are out of control and have to be thrown out of office.
Check this out:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/watercoole...
And for when some liberal insists canada's system is better…..
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,539943,00.htm...
When the new president of the CMA is saying the system is "sick"……
And for when some liberal insists canada's system is better…..
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,539943,00.htm...
When the new president of the CMA is saying the system is "sick"……
And for when some liberal insists canada's system is better…..
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,539943,00.htm...
When the new president of the CMA is saying the system is "sick"……
To the American People: I think all sides are overusing the term 'Nazi'. It demeans the true meaning of National Socialism. I mean, really people! Isnt it a bit unimaginitive at this point? Pick on someone else who has about as much to do with healthcare and is just as terrible like Ghengis Khan, Pol Pot, Josef Stalin, or the singing done by Lindsay Lohan on her last album. Tired of being the 'butt boy easy-to-go- to reference'. Please cease and desist.
If UPS and FED EX had to stop at every house in the United States every day, they might not do so well either…When I think that I can put 44 cents on an evelope, have someone pick that envelope up at my house and deliver it to Fairbanks, Alaska….and do it in two or three days….I don't have many complaints about the Postal Service..
Let FED EX or UPS stop at every house, whether they have a delivery or a pickup or not and see what happens…
If indeed you want to deny transportation to the masses, and punish individual accomplishment-
you couldn't do any better with these programs…
If UPS and FED EX had to stop at every house in the United States every day, they might not do so well either…When I think that I can put 44 cents on an evelope, have someone pick that envelope up at my house and deliver it to Fairbanks, Alaska….and do it in two or three days….I don't have many complaints about the Postal Service..
If that was a joke, it was a very bad one.
That "Cash for Clunkers" thing disgusts me. Of course, I'm a natural pack rat and hate to dispose of anything, much less a car, but it seems worse than wasteful to wreck a perfectly good car. I have an '89 Buick which, while it's not much to look at and has 175,000 miles on it, still runs pretty well for the years and miles. It's served me pretty well for several years, and it would almost break my heart to see the thing get dragged out somewhere and totaled. I know it's just metal and everything, but still…
Couldn't have said it better………………
This isn't about health care; it never has been. It's about control. A citizenry beholden to some faceless entity for his/her life doesn't like to make trouble. He/she sits down and shuts up, exactly what the Left expects the subjects to do.
Secondly, Obama is correct about the inevitable cost savings. Here's how it works.
Patient gets sick.
Patient calls Dr.
Given appt. in three months.
In three months, he is either well, dead or still sick.
If well, he doesn't need the appointment. Same if he's dead.
Still sick? He gets a few tests. Needs an MRI. Next appt is in six months
In six months, he's either well, dead or still sick. If the first two, he doesn't need the MRI; if the latter,
depends on the findings.
He has a tumor? Humm. Needs to see a specialist. That takes another six months.
If his tumor's malignant, in six months he's probably either dead or too far gone to spend money on treatment
And the icing on the cake — the cherry on the sundae? He doesn't collect social security and if he has any estate, the gov. gets fifty percent of it.
The truth is, serfs aren't worth much unless they're well and working for the system.
T-Rav
You are absolutely correct. I'm definitely a "Car Guy" (23yr mechanic) and it breaks my heart to see some of these vehicles going to early and unnecessary deaths. It won't help anything and will (if the program continues) dry up the cheap used car market. I had 5 cheap clunkers when I was young before I had enough money to buy the first of many new ones. This is the way it's always worked. Removing a few older cars won't help anything. Now if new car owners would maintain there cars properly and have there cars fixed as soon as the Check engine light" comes on (not months later!!!) that would have a greater impact on emmissions than taking a 89 buick off the road…………
and………those old buick 3.8 are hard to kill aren't they?
He will appoint Michael Vick to take care of the Blue DOG democrats
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Yup. I wil "never" say who is doin this or where it's happening, but "major" parts are dissapearing off these clunker cars before they go to the crusher. Rumor has it engines are being removed (not at the dealership level) for resale. While I don't have first hand knowledge of this particular case, there is a lot of money to be made in used engines so I could see it happening.
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Thanks Jamesb
The other afternoon I was watching Beck, and his guest basically used UPS and FED EX, comparing them to USPS and Beck… basically told him, USPS is BANKRUPT and we should expect the same from our HEALTH CARE SYSTEM… thanks to Sebelius, they tried it this past weekend in a memo and well…. there has been alot of flap over her remarks… she "Miss SPOKE" really???? they had to try something and it was SHOT DOWN RIGHT AWAY….. the UN AMERICANS spoke up……
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I don't know about you, but I'm looking forward to having a postal worker operate on my prostate!
But if FedEx or UPS didn't do well, they'd lose customers to their competitor. The Postal Service has no competitors. If you're satisfied with their service now, think of how much better it would be if they were afraid of losing your business!
The Post Office Department of the United States of America, a branch of the federal government , became the United States Postal Service , a semi independent agency , in 1971. The Postal Service is mandated to run like a business model without recieving tax payer dollars or government subsidies.
–"I will vote adamantly against the interests of my district if I actually think what I am doing is going to be helpful."– Rep. Massa
I think he just made his opposition's commercial for free!!!
A guy obviously in the middle of having a heart attack walks in to a new Obamacare *Emergency Room*…takes a number…79…hmmm, he wonders, what could that mean? He slumps to the floor, a.k.a. as "taking a seat". …36…48…..66……78………79! "Number 79!"…"Number 79!" the Obamacare *nurse* barks…a few people nod toward #79, prostrate on the floor…the Obamacare *nurse* then bellows "80!"…"80!"…"Number 80!"…
That was great!
We need to be reminded about Hitler, Nazis, Fascism, Socialism often so that these things never happen again. This insidious evil never dies, it just hides in the shadows and wait for a new generation to FORGET.
I'd invite you to guess what party's platform the following points are from, and to tell me in what way they do NOT reflect the stated and/or apparent goals of the current Democratic leadership in the United States of America.
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7. We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood.
9. All citizens must possess equal rights and duties.
10. The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all
Therefore we demand:
11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.
12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.
14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.
15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.
16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.
17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.
18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.
19. We demand that Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.
20. In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.
21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.
22. We demand the abolition of the regular army and the creation of a national (folk) army.
23. We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press.
25. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.
The formation of professional committees and of committees representing the several estates of the realm, to ensure that the laws promulgated by the central authority shall be carried out by the federal states.
<ENDQUOTE
The only real difference between the current crew and the National Socialists is the "National"; the current crew believe in a Global Socialist State under a single authoritarian leadership.
Concur. Please see my recent response to the jerk calling himself A. Hilter (apologies to the ';jerk' if it was satire, but it didn't really come off that way).
'Lighten up Francis!' You are more serious than an encircling army of red soldiers you know are no fan of yours. Trust me, I know how serious that can be! Oy vay!
And to think I was going to send him a thank-you e-mail for at least hosting a recess meeting in his district which borders mine. It's bad enough when your own Representative (and I use that term while gritting my teeth), doesn't believe that such meetings will be "helpful". But of course he could attend a fund raising dinner at a local eating establishment, which I'm sure was more than "helpful". I am so looking forward to these hypocrites' defeat in 2010.
Wow, something very familiar about all this. If you ask me to guess, well, looking at point numbers 19 and 20, I would say the German Socialist movement (helps if you edit before you cut and paste, and you dont quote me to me). Aw, what difference does it make. I am still dead, but I wish all sides would stop picking over the bones of history, cause this is one overused carcass thats picked clean.
The postal service does have competitors and you just named them. Hence that is why FedEx and UPS ARE doing better than the Post Office. I bet you'd be the first to complain if that same letter you affixed a stamp to DIDNT get there wouldnt you.
How serious do you have to be: Hitler talking about the evil that is Stalin and Lindsay Lohan's singing in the same sentence?
I personally find the usage of democrats and dogs in the same reference offensive. Woof Woof.
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1987 Century, 3.8 Sequential Fuel Injection. Private sale, $400, owners kept the repair records, looked like a lemon. Had a wiped bearing. My father and I rebuilt the lower, turns out the "mechanic" changed the oil pump and never pulled the oil pan, found some plastic chunks that apparently got into a crank bearing. New injectors, the usual brake and exhaust stuff, had to get a shop to change transmissions, that was it. Have owned it going on ten years now, saved a ton of money. The rust is finally getting it, rocker panels shot and nothing on the bottoms of the doors.
And it is really looking tempting to get back everything I ever paid into it in one fell swoop….
Seems to me that the government has been robbing our contributions to Social Security for many, many years under administrations run by both parties. So they take our contributions and then scream, "It's going bankrupt." Well, duh. It may go bankrupt on its own, but it has a much better chance when its funds are used for other things than they were intended. Crying about how it is going broke is stupid when we all know why it's going broke. So we set up a government run anything — health care, post nasal drip clinic, immigration office, etc. — and what do we get? Double duh. We get ripped off again. We need to replace the Congress we reelected even though they had a 13 – 14% approval rating. No wonder they think we're stupid. We reelected a group of people we thought were doing a lousy job. I'm not sure there's a DUH big enough for that one!
Uh, Mr. President, all your Post Office reference did was to highlight just ONE example how government is incapable of dealing with a single problem, or performing a single task for which they try to justify taxing us, or regulating our lives. Social Security doesn't work, and neither do Medicare and Medicaid. Government can't deliver the mail effectively, nor can they provide our children with a marketable education. They can't control the borders, and they can't keep their friends on Wall St., or in the banking system, from stealing us blind. So, Mr. President, unless you are intentionally trying to damage our economy, and leave generations of Americans to come with crippling debt, why don't you use the intellect that your supporters are so fond of pointing to, and stop trying to impose even more inept and corrupt government agencies and policies than we already have.
Except for a 1992 Geo Storm that I drove for ten years (traded it in when the floor pan started rusting out), I've driven nothing but used cars. I had a 1982 VW Scirocco that had over 80,000 miles on it when I bought it; I put another 176,000 miles on it. I remember the look on the Geo salesman's face when he read the odometer. He said that, up until then, the trade-in with the most mileage that he had seen was a Honda Civic with just over 190,000 miles on it. I presently drive a 2002 Saturn SL with just over 122,000 miles on it (got it used with 40,000 miles).
Um, can I just say that the one time I had a package lost (it was shipped in October and then delivered to me 8 months later), and the one time I had a package damaged, they were both by UPS and not the post office? I may be the only one, but I've never had a problem with the postal service.
kadaka, that's a tough one. It's almost like sending a member of the family to there death isn't it. It has lived a full life and I wouldn't fault you at all for getting back some of your tax dollars with cash for clunkers.
I'd be willing to bet though that the little Buick would go for a couple more years with a new owner. Once the body start to go though, it becomes a safety issue (sounds like we're talkin' about me. Ha!).
If clunkers had been around ten years ago, odds are you would have never found that car. It would have been scrapped many years before it's time. Find anything out there today that will give you 10 years of service for $400. Ain't happening. Your's is the perfect arguement "against" cash for clunkers……..
The really funny thing about that 3.8 is that most people don't even know that the engine design is around 30 years old and that it is still in use today. It's always listed as one of the top mass produced engines made worldwide year after year…….
4 cylinder or 3 cylinder on the Geo? Had a buddy that had one years ago with the three cylinder. With a little tweaking by us that little monster, got 61 mpg on the highway.This was way back in the early 90's. Granted it took about 3 hours to get to highway speed, but the gas mileage was unbelievable…….
…it was a 4-cylinder. The car was actually manufactured at the Isuzu plant in Japan. It had a 5-speed manual transmission and could accelerate like a gazelle with a "hot-and-sour" enema.
Several years ago I read a story about a two-stroke engine being developed in Australia iirc. No oil mixing, good emissions. There was a photo of a researcher showing off one big enough to power a small car. Weighed about 90 pounds, he had it tucked under his arm.
Haven't heard about it since. Wonder what killed it, endurance tests or stupid regulators declaring "A two-stroke can't do that!"
like we said, this stinks to high heaven- it is meant to 'take people out of their cars' (Ray Lahood) 'protect the environment' (the Dems in congress) and lastly stimulate the economy
(Obama and others)… only 2% of the funds have been dispersed- nice stimulus- and ultimately it will drive up the price of all used cars hurting everyone's (particularly the poor) bottom line.
Statist economics always work poorly- and some don't work at all. This is somewhere in the middle…
the scams are already legend; engine and trans swaps, cars going over the border, any way you can cause greed- government 'giveaways' do it better than almost anything- will creat monsters like this. Bad program with a long trail of fraud and abuse- what else is new?
Well said, Joseph.
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