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		<title>By: deleted4544261</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 20:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I went to private school, but it was a long time ago, I will admit. (I remember when we got Commodore 64 computers! WOW!!) I also don&#039;t have kids, so this isn&#039;t particularly a hot button issue for me, although I&#039;d love paying less taxes since all schools would be funded soley with private money. But I imagine a family&#039;s tax bill for public education is a lot less than tuition for each individual child would be. Who would make up the difference? How many new private schools would be required to accommodate every child in America?  I never took economics, but if you charge less for a product in order to stay competitive--in this case the product is education--don&#039;t you have to lower overhead as well? Wouldn&#039;t that be teacher salaries? How low can tuition get and still retain (American) teachers worth a damn as well as provide top-notch services? Or would it be like the nursing industry, which attracts large numbers of foreigners because there aren&#039;t enough Americans to fill all the positions needed. I don&#039;t think it would necessarily benefit poor areas either. To use your food analogy, poor neighborhoods sport tons of fast food chains, not fine dining restaurants because no one can afford it. I think that would translate to private schools in those areas as well. I&#039;m not trying to be argumentative, it just seems impractical. But Hell, let&#039;s grab some stimulus funds and do a study!! 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I went to private school, but it was a long time ago, I will admit. (I remember when we got Commodore 64 computers! WOW!!) I also don&#39;t have kids, so this isn&#39;t particularly a hot button issue for me, although I&#39;d love paying less taxes since all schools would be funded soley with private money. But I imagine a family&#39;s tax bill for public education is a lot less than tuition for each individual child would be. Who would make up the difference? How many new private schools would be required to accommodate every child in America?  I never took economics, but if you charge less for a product in order to stay competitive&#8211;in this case the product is education&#8211;don&#39;t you have to lower overhead as well? Wouldn&#39;t that be teacher salaries? How low can tuition get and still retain (American) teachers worth a damn as well as provide top-notch services? Or would it be like the nursing industry, which attracts large numbers of foreigners because there aren&#39;t enough Americans to fill all the positions needed. I don&#39;t think it would necessarily benefit poor areas either. To use your food analogy, poor neighborhoods sport tons of fast food chains, not fine dining restaurants because no one can afford it. I think that would translate to private schools in those areas as well. I&#39;m not trying to be argumentative, it just seems impractical. But Hell, let&#39;s grab some stimulus funds and do a study!!</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 19:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Making all schools private is a far cry from making them all good...&quot;   
 
Private enterprises get good through competition with other private enterprises.  They get good or people vote with their feet...and they go out of business.  Without competition, i.e., the free market, there is no incentive to improve or even keep existing standards high.  You get what you get.   And &#039;forced to pay tuition&#039;...they&#039;re paying tuition now, in the form of taxes that go to public education.  Competition would lower the tuition, making many schools more affordable (see my comment above).  It&#039;s not one size fits all.  Do you shop for food at a grocery store?  If the government ran &#039;food distribution&#039; and food was now &#039;free&#039;...you&#039;d see people hungry, grumbling, unhappy with the quality.  Hmmm...just like they are now over public education. 
 
Funny how government running what should be in the private market tends to do that. 
 
The mere fact that basic Capitalism and free market principles has to be explained like this is further proof of the abject FAILURE of our public education system. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Making all schools private is a far cry from making them all good&#8230;&quot;   </p>
<p>Private enterprises get good through competition with other private enterprises.  They get good or people vote with their feet&#8230;and they go out of business.  Without competition, i.e., the free market, there is no incentive to improve or even keep existing standards high.  You get what you get.   And &#39;forced to pay tuition&#39;&#8230;they&#39;re paying tuition now, in the form of taxes that go to public education.  Competition would lower the tuition, making many schools more affordable (see my comment above).  It&#39;s not one size fits all.  Do you shop for food at a grocery store?  If the government ran &#39;food distribution&#39; and food was now &#39;free&#39;&#8230;you&#39;d see people hungry, grumbling, unhappy with the quality.  Hmmm&#8230;just like they are now over public education. </p>
<p>Funny how government running what should be in the private market tends to do that. </p>
<p>The mere fact that basic Capitalism and free market principles has to be explained like this is further proof of the abject FAILURE of our public education system.</p>
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		<title>By: debbie1960</title>
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		<dc:creator>debbie1960</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 00:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, since we are on Big Hollywood, is this kind of idea that could be turned into a documentary. Something that could be shown at schools, regardless of the grade?  then after the movie was previewed, particpants could be there to answer questions and the children could even go home with a signed copy of a book. Something they could always carry with them. If they couldn&#039;t read, maybe this would be the motivation to begin. 
 
Just an idea. 
 
 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, since we are on Big Hollywood, is this kind of idea that could be turned into a documentary. Something that could be shown at schools, regardless of the grade?  then after the movie was previewed, particpants could be there to answer questions and the children could even go home with a signed copy of a book. Something they could always carry with them. If they couldn&#39;t read, maybe this would be the motivation to begin. </p>
<p>Just an idea.</p>
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		<title>By: LawHawkSF</title>
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		<dc:creator>LawHawkSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 23:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your recent comment seems to have disappeared, but I did pick it up. 
 
I wish I had an answer. We&#039;re working nearly blind here. But I do know that no matter how true the underlying logic may be, we have to find a better way of getting out the message about affirmative action and welfare. By being so virulent about it, we have come off as attacking the people who are being harmed by it on both sides. I know I&#039;d be ticked off if some hoity-toity white guy came into my community and told me that I was only surviving because of affirmative action and welfare. I can do that with poverty-pimp white people, but it would be rude and counter-productive for me to talk that way to a black family that is truly looking for a way out.  
 
The left constantly talks about &quot;empowering people,&quot; when they really mean &quot;enslaving them by other means.&quot; We need to find a way to get out the message that &quot;empowerment&quot; begins with the family, the schools and the churches, not with government programs. I can be sure of one thing--there are millions of black success stories out there, and they need to be told. Having someone like me talk about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps is just not believable to a black kid in second or third generation poverty and desperation. I&#039;m willing to bet tnwoman is one of those people who could do exactly that.  And it doesn&#039;t have to be about &quot;how I made my first million,&quot; either.  Just a simple story of &quot;how I worked my way out of poverty with the help of my family and good friends, and now have a happy home and a good life without waiting for the social worker to tell me what to do next&quot; would be extremely effective.  Taking help from a government program is not a sin, but building your life around it is crippling. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your recent comment seems to have disappeared, but I did pick it up. </p>
<p>I wish I had an answer. We&#39;re working nearly blind here. But I do know that no matter how true the underlying logic may be, we have to find a better way of getting out the message about affirmative action and welfare. By being so virulent about it, we have come off as attacking the people who are being harmed by it on both sides. I know I&#39;d be ticked off if some hoity-toity white guy came into my community and told me that I was only surviving because of affirmative action and welfare. I can do that with poverty-pimp white people, but it would be rude and counter-productive for me to talk that way to a black family that is truly looking for a way out.  </p>
<p>The left constantly talks about &quot;empowering people,&quot; when they really mean &quot;enslaving them by other means.&quot; We need to find a way to get out the message that &quot;empowerment&quot; begins with the family, the schools and the churches, not with government programs. I can be sure of one thing&#8211;there are millions of black success stories out there, and they need to be told. Having someone like me talk about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps is just not believable to a black kid in second or third generation poverty and desperation. I&#39;m willing to bet tnwoman is one of those people who could do exactly that.  And it doesn&#39;t have to be about &quot;how I made my first million,&quot; either.  Just a simple story of &quot;how I worked my way out of poverty with the help of my family and good friends, and now have a happy home and a good life without waiting for the social worker to tell me what to do next&quot; would be extremely effective.  Taking help from a government program is not a sin, but building your life around it is crippling.</p>
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		<title>By: debbie1960</title>
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		<dc:creator>debbie1960</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 23:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you. As a pruduct of the 70&#039;s all I heard in school was how this was all going to work out for the greated good for everyone.  
 
So, where do wy go from here? 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you. As a pruduct of the 70&#39;s all I heard in school was how this was all going to work out for the greated good for everyone.  </p>
<p>So, where do wy go from here?</p>
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		<title>By: Ravis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ravis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 21:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will there ever be an African-American whose life and thoughts aren&#039;t consumed by race? They talk about in endlessly, write nothing that isn&#039;t focussed on it, obsess about their racial past, and even major in it in college. If whites devoted just 10 percent of the time and energy to race as do blacks, the whole friggin world would go nuts. Race obsession is racism pure and simple. It was wrong for the Klan, it was wrong for the Nazis, it&#039;s wrong for blacks. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will there ever be an African-American whose life and thoughts aren&#39;t consumed by race? They talk about in endlessly, write nothing that isn&#39;t focussed on it, obsess about their racial past, and even major in it in college. If whites devoted just 10 percent of the time and energy to race as do blacks, the whole friggin world would go nuts. Race obsession is racism pure and simple. It was wrong for the Klan, it was wrong for the Nazis, it&#39;s wrong for blacks.</p>
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		<title>By: Magic Puzzle Box</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magic Puzzle Box</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 20:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One book I read called War Against Excellence talked about how the &quot;Middle School Movement&quot; caused this decline.  Don&#039;t know if that&#039;s correct, but check out the book/website of that name for yourself. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One book I read called War Against Excellence talked about how the &quot;Middle School Movement&quot; caused this decline.  Don&#39;t know if that&#39;s correct, but check out the book/website of that name for yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: LawHawkSF</title>
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		<dc:creator>LawHawkSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 20:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely forgot about the football team (or lack thereof).  My bad.  The Anteaters are the baseball and basketball teams.  I&#039;m so old that the Angels were a minor league baseball team in Los Angeles.  I even had a beaded belt with Los Angeles Angels worked through the beading.  That was before Gene Autry took the Angels into the bigs.  Mydad had a friend who played in the minors. 
 
I&#039;m somewhat familiar with Irvine--pre-university.  It was beautiful country, and I hear it&#039;s still very nice.  We had a summer home in Laguna Beach, so I&#039;m familiar with the old Orange County.  I know it has changed considerably, not all for the good. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely forgot about the football team (or lack thereof).  My bad.  The Anteaters are the baseball and basketball teams.  I&#39;m so old that the Angels were a minor league baseball team in Los Angeles.  I even had a beaded belt with Los Angeles Angels worked through the beading.  That was before Gene Autry took the Angels into the bigs.  Mydad had a friend who played in the minors. </p>
<p>I&#39;m somewhat familiar with Irvine&#8211;pre-university.  It was beautiful country, and I hear it&#39;s still very nice.  We had a summer home in Laguna Beach, so I&#39;m familiar with the old Orange County.  I know it has changed considerably, not all for the good.</p>
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		<title>By: Magic Puzzle Box</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magic Puzzle Box</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 20:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.  Then the gun comes later? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.  Then the gun comes later?</p>
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		<title>By: Ken in Irvine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken in Irvine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 19:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UCI does not have a football team.  In fact, neither does Anaheim or Los Angeles. 
 
We do, however, have the Angels and Ducks.  :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UCI does not have a football team.  In fact, neither does Anaheim or Los Angeles. </p>
<p>We do, however, have the Angels and Ducks.  <img src='http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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