Statement from James O’Keefe
by James O'KeefeThe government has now confirmed what has always been clear: No one tried to wiretap or bug Senator Landrieu’s office. Nor did we try to cut or shut down her phone lines. Reports to this effect over the past 48 hours are inaccurate and false.
As an investigative journalist, my goal is to expose corruption and lack of concern for citizens by government and other institutions, as I did last year when our investigations revealed the massive corruption and fraud perpetrated by ACORN. For decades, investigative journalists have used a variety of tactics to try to dig out and reveal the truth.
I learned from a number of sources that many of Senator Landrieu’s constituents were having trouble getting through to her office to tell her that they didn’t want her taking millions of federal dollars in exchange for her vote on the healthcare bill. When asked about this, Senator Landrieu’s explanation was that, “Our lines have been jammed for weeks.” I decided to investigate why a representative of the people would be out of touch with her constituents for “weeks” because her phones were broken. In investigating this matter, we decided to visit Senator Landrieu’s district office – the people’s office – to ask the staff if their phones were working.
On reflection, I could have used a different approach to this investigation, particularly given the sensitivities that people understandably have about security in a federal building. The sole intent of our investigation was to determine whether or not Senator Landrieu was purposely trying to avoid constituents who were calling to register their views to her as their Senator. We video taped the entire visit, the government has those tapes, and I’m eager for them to be released because they refute the false claims being repeated by much of the mainstream media.
It has been amazing to witness the journalistic malpractice committed by many of the organizations covering this story. MSNBC falsely claimed that I violated a non-existent “gag order.” The Associated Press incorrectly reported that I “broke in” to an office which is open to the public. The Washington Post has now had to print corrections in two stories on me. And these are just a few examples of inaccurate and false reporting. The public will judge whether reporters who can’t get their facts straight have the credibility to question my integrity as a journalist.
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And yet they claim you're the one unqualified to call himself a journalist. Bully on Mr. O'Keefe.
The question is, if you were successful in your endeavor and the facts supported the Senator's remarks, would you have gone public with your findings?
This is an all out witch hunt and the left would like to see Mr O'Keefe on a funeral pyre. IT stinks to bloody hell.
I really hope he sues anyone possible for slander/liable.
James, I've been really miffed at the MSM for constantly referring to you as a "conservative activist." You should always insist on your rightful job title, which is investigative journalist. Most of the MSM's journalists could easily be tagged liberal activists, yet they never call them that. You have just as much right to the title as any of them. Keep up the good fight!
That's not really "the" question Frankie. I'll grant you that it is a fair question though, but probably best suited for a different topic than whether or not the media has lied and misreported about this incident. It's not really applicable as a reply to what James has said above. It's a different topic altogether.
Don't mean to nitpick, I think you mean "libel".
Amazing how silent the MSM was during the ACORN findings, but how quick they are to talk about this topic.
You are right. Point taken.
How much integrity do you have as a journalist when you dress up like the village people?
The Village People were extreme left liberal ideology.
I don't pray much for others… even though I'm a christian conservative… newly so, and thusly agro and angry that i was a brainwashed liberal commie atheist for 20 years. But pray for you, I do. Thanks for what you do.
Do you mean the tapes that showed the illegal activity of falsifying one's identity for the purpose of secretly recording and distributing conversations? Does anyone honestly think that ACORN's goal is to provide business advice to criminals? Don't you watch the Wire? That's what we have corrupt lawyers for.
You've got to shout this from the rooftops to counteract the damage already done to your reputation. MSM are now no better than nasty gossip rags when it comes to dragging someone they want rid of through the mud. Keep fighting the good fight. Heaven help you if you ever really do make ANY kind of misstep…
Pay your taxes. Don't drink and drive. Don't litter. No Bruno encounters. Clean your plate.
Give 'em hell! When they squil the loudest you know you are on the right track.
If I was Senator Landrieu, I would drop any charges. I would not want a trial where Mr. OKeefe – in order to prove his story – could mass huge numbers of people who will attest that they could not get through to Sen. Landrieu's office. I would also hate to have the tape of my staff reporting that everything is fine with the phones made public.
[...] …over at Big Hollywood. [...]
You mean the tapes showing duped ACORN employees happily giving criminal business advice?
Do you mean the tapes showing ACORN employees advocating the prostitution of underage girls from El Salvador? It might not be their goal to provide criminals with business advise, but they sure like doing it anyway…..
Seriously? Is that all you've got??
Of course he means Libel. Why be such a Leftist pig to bring attention to his unintentional mistake? For one hour there I forgot he was BLACK. You Leftists are so transparent!
You and the rest of your little group are gonna love prison. Call Gannon/Guckert – he can give you a few pointers on how to get by and earn a few packs of smokes along the way.
I'm impressed with your ability to fabricate your own version of reality when the real world becomes a bit too much to handle. A word of advice, however: don't list this special skill of yours on a resume.
No, ACORN's "goal" is to get Democrats elected. Fraudulently if need be. Their disgusting "business advice" is just a by-product.
James: You need to make a new tape as a re-enactment with actors to show exactly what happened. The Feds will not let you have those tapes until long after they are needed. Put something together to show us with people playing the parts.
James, I knew there was more to the story. I applaud your ingenuity. I just wish people knew there was no malice involved. Amazing that certain leftists can throw paint, BOMBS and even pies (gasp!) at their ideological opponents but you go into a senator's office armed with a cell phone and MSNBC and that moral authority Bertha Lewis can dismiss any of their own wrongdoing to vilify you. Wow. The MSM gave more deference to the skivvie bomber than they did you. What a bunch of jackasses. Ed Schultz? STFU.
PS – I'm going to point out that "jammed" can also mean "subject to a lot of calls, so many that the trunk can accept no more".
It can also mean that she's talking about her DC line.
Your lawyer needs to be telling you to shut up until your charges can be disposed of. If he's encouraging you to run your mouth, he's an idiot.
sorry man O'Keefe doesn't have a mustache
and to date I don't think he has made a statement on his singing ability
Joe & Frankie: I congratulate you both for being gentlemen.
It would be fun watching you eat those words in a few months when the charges are downgraded or dropped entirely. But as we all know, you won't have the courage to show your face by then.
If your lawyer hasn't yet told you the STFU he's even stupider than you. And that's saying something.
If it was so public why did you fake your way in with disguises and lie to guards about identification? Why did you demand access to the main lines for the building? Good thing you aren't muslim, or you would be waterboarded by now.
Why are you mocking the way ACORN "customers" dress? It looks like we now get to see your true feelings about the people that ACORN purports to serve.
You are a classic liberal…you despise the people you pretend to serve.
Buddy, Pal, Kiddo, nowhere does she say in her quote that her phones were "BROKEN". We all know what the expression 'my phones were jammed' means. It is akin to "ringing off the hook". I am on your side and feel that you are being tarnished unfairly but you really should re-state you purpose for doing what you did and then get as far away from this mess as possible. It was poorly thought out and clumsy. I support you, I really do, but this type of covert journalism is always going to be judged as biased if the target is consistently and exclusively on one side of the aisle.
Wow James, the trolls really hate you for exposing ACORN. If they had this much scorn for cop killers or an organization that advocates the prostitution of underage girls maybe we'd all be better off.
The fact that they were silent or even defending that behavior from ACORN and are now showing up to taunt you says tons about them.
Hope you are vindicated so we can give them all nice big shitburger to eat….and if you really did do something wrong, well, don't drop the soap….
If you knew me you would find it laughable that you call me 'a leftist pig'. I am so far from that description as one can be. That said, it was kind of douchey for me to point it out. I wanted to pull it back as soon as I hit 'enter'. Now, just 'cause you hit the wrong target, don't let that stop you from going after the real 'leftist pigs'.
"why did you fake your way in with disguises and lie to guards about identification"
A fair question. One explanation might be that he is too well known and would've been barred from her office because he's not a constituent.
"Why did you demand access to the main lines for the building"
Do you know for a fact that he did this?
"Good thing you aren't muslim, or you would be waterboarded by now."
oooh how clever…..
Go get 'em, O'Keefe!!!
When Buckley said that the Republican party was the party of ideas, I suppose he should have been more specific about the quality of the ideas he was looking for.
Hell yeah!
What you never heard of under cover journalism? The MSM does it all the time. Just look at the way the lefties at MSNBC, CNN, ABC and CBS dress. Like a bunch of real estate agents. Seriously, you don't have much and you actually took the bridge to no where with that question.
This is yet another example of the left viciously attacking innocent well-meaning conservatives without knowing the facts. This is eerily similar to the way the liberal media tore down George W. Bush, Trent Lott, Oliver North, Tom DeLay, Joe McCarthy, Duke Cunningham, and Richard Nixon!!
Mr. O'Keefe, you are a true American hero!!
Frankie,
It actually gives me the impression they were going in as phone workers as a way to mock her office on video and then show them… and the video would also show no phones ringing off the hook.
Sounds like a it would have been another great video report from O'Keefe!
Your post is so badly written that any claim you might try to make about being a serious journalist is self-refuting. You really should take a course or two on grammar and punctuation while you are in the Big House. You can work on prose style later when you get out and can't find a job. It's too bad you and your friends look like a geek squad. Good looking guys have better protection in the slammer
This is another opportunity for the hammer of truth to pound the holy crap out of the nest of lies that the leftie MSM always throws up. It proves alot about who the leftie slanderers really are and I think the American people are finally catching on. Keep up the excellent investigative journalism. We got your back, James.
Your alias is appropriate–you're so fraught with lies and condescending b.s. that it's not even funny. Go troll somewhere else.
Hmmm, you might be on to something though. Maybe we should just call them liberal activists instead of journalists?
Public Figure: "No, I will not be meeting with the liberal activists later"
Journalist: "You mean no press conference later?"
Public Figure: "No, I meant what I just said"
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I believe O'Keefe; however dressing up like telephone workers and getting into the phone closet is incredibly suspicious. No one from Big Hollywood would accept that – and rightly so.
It appears that the cops found no bugs on O'Keefe's crew. Who knows what sort of mischief a real criminal could wreak with closed access to phone bank wiring?
I like the reason for this caper even if it demonstrates more balls than brains. By that I mean that there was too much risk for too little potential return. If O'Keefe proved that Landrieu was using her phone wiring to dump calls (I am not absolutely sure that is what his crew were doing in the phone closet), possibly such a revelation would drive more folks out into the street with the Tea Partiers. More likely, it would become a footnote to a footnote to a footnote in the consciousness of the general public. I admit though as everyone in Hollywood knows nobody knows anything.
Nevertheless, I am still cheering for O'Keefe. All young people need time to learn their craft.
"Do you know for a fact that he did this? "
Are you suggesting federal agents committed perjury in the affidavit?
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A fair question. One explanation might be that he is too well known and would've been barred from her office because he's not a constituent."
Even if it were true, it would still be massively illegal to lie about your identity to enter a federal building. This wasn't just an office, it also held other government agencies including the Secret Service. It's not a joke to suggest a Muslim would be tortured if they tried this, you conservatives have made it very clear you support that. Innocent until proven guilty is for Republicans caught red handed by the FBI, not brown people.
I'm a constituent of Senator Landrieu, and I'll attest that it has been impossible to get anything other than a busy signal at ANY of her offices. I've emailed, and all that's gotten me is put on her "I'm wonderful" spam list. I finally resorted to calling Senator Vitter, and asking someone in his office to relay my health care and phone concerns to Senator Landrieu.
Buddy Pal Kiddo, so you are letting Lying Senator Landrieu and her staff off on a technicality? Who do you think called the Feds over a simple question? Why would they do that unless they wanted to hide something and make a big deal over nothing to hurt the person who asked the question?? A kid with a camera is a threat? This is how you support James?? Why don't you see the larger truth here? Is it because you are stuck on stupid or did you just drink the Koolaid?
"no legal investigations found any wrongdoing"
This is laughable. ACORN investigated themselves, and surprise, surprise they found themselves innocent of any wrong-doing.
Are you saying that no one in those tapes from ACORN offered to help them with their prostitution business? Is that what you're saying??
Leave it to MSNBCs nostrilides David Schuster to run down to New Orleans and think he has a scoop. What a fool. Andrew gave him hell in that interview. It is amazing how the MM is hot to trot on this story , but mum on the ACORN story. Unbelievable! Good luck O'Keefe
"It is akin to "ringing off the hook". "
True, which is why video of you walking around the phone banks with no ringing phones is suspicious.
They probably just send the calls to a busy number and they don’t even ring in the office… or a message box that no one checks.
In the end, its sounds (to me) mostly a Mike Moore style stunt and/or 'street theater'… but James is guilty of doing it 'while conservative'… so they're try to hit him with a felony.
I get it, but, it seems a little sophomoric and only served to cheapen his good work thus far. If I were in his inner circle I would have voted for a less theatrical mode. More stealth and less jokey. I want him to do good work and cover all bases and patch any potential holes before doing something like this again because failure feeds his enemies exponentially.
I'm saying the extensive editing and overdubbing makes it entirely unclear what happened. Why the pants wetting fear from the "journalist" to release unedited tapes?
They did not investigate themselves, they were investigated by a former attorney general AND the congressional research service. There is simply zero evidence to support the claims of this "journalist" who edits and overdubs tapes and pretends they are real.
So where was all this outrage when ACORN employees were trying to help O'Keefe prositute underage girls?
You have what's called "selective outrage" If conservatives do something wrong then they shouold be hanged immediately. If anyone or anything connected to liberalism GETS CAUGHT ON TAPE, well then, they MUST be getting railroaded by conservatism.
And your policy seems to be innocent until proven guilty unless you're a conservative. Oh and tell me how many muslims were waterboarded exactly….
That's nice, James, but it doesn't really explain why you guys were trying to get access to the phone lines. There really aren't any "innocent" reasons for that. There are only a couple of things that might require that access, none of them good.
I'm perfectly willing to listen to explanations, but this one just doesn't cut it. Indignation at being caught does not equal innocence.
Probably because O'Keefe was caught committing a felony red handed by the FBI and the only reason anyone suspected ACORN was edited and overdubbed tapes?
ACORN provides many different services, including tax and housing assistance. That's why they were able to advise on how to cheat the process.
I'm sorry, I missed which newspaper you said you work for. Or was it MSNBC? Gotta be one of the MSM liberal-biased ignorant outlets. You couldn't be THAT stupid.
Edited and overdubbed tapes that proved nothing, from a "journalist" who lied about things like claiming no one tossed him out and called the police. There is no evidence of any wrong doing, as two independent investigations showed. No outrage, yeah, I'll wait for proof. Some unedited tapes would be a good start.
Your hypocrisy is mind numbing, as you STILL pretend there is any real evidence against ACORN while crying like a baby that people judge someone guilty who was caught red handed by the FBI.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Former AG Scott Harshbarger was commisioned by…..drum roll please……ACORN to investigate themselves……
And hang a sec, congressional research service. You mean a service to the democrat controlled congress? The service with absolutely no legal power? yeah that's a grand investigation alright….
It's funny, you claim the tapes are fake, yet there they are. ACORN employees sitting there giving business advise to people trying to break the law.
But It's true. Good looking young guys hook up with huge, bulked up protectors who keep other guys away from them. Skinny guys like O'Keefe with big noses and zits get to do the tough work of providing "services" for the ordinary murderers and old guys without partners. But, looking on the bright side, maybe he can do some "Investigative Journalism' on this hard fact of prison life. And, still, he'll have to learn how to be a better writer.
bahiabobandweave, buddy, pal, kiddo, there's only two ways to engage a person as quick on the trigger as you. One is to completely ignore, and, two is to slap him down for using such unoriginal insults like 'stuck on stupid' or worse 'drink the Koolaid'. I have stated that I support what the kid is doing but am not as comfortable with his approach as you are (obviously). Now, why don't you climb back on your Harley and GFY.
Do you have any evidence that they were not impartial? Nope, just slander. What facts in the investigations were wrong? None, of course, but you just have to believe your edited, overdubbed tapes instead of professional investigators. The fantasy world you people erect for yourselves is scary. In this world you can't trust the FBI, Attorney Generals, or non-partisan congressional investigations…if you trust THEM you are biased and jumping to conclusions. The only thing you can trust is edited, overdubbed videos from a 25 year old baby who lives with his parents and refuses to release unedited versions. WHY NOT? If there is nothing to hide, why only release the altered tapes?
I think I'll stick with trusting professional investigators and law enforcement officials.
This is literally the most unbelievable excuse O'Keefe could have come up with: Landrieu says she hasn't been responding to all of her phone calls because she's been receiving too many so O'Keefe assumes that her lines must be broken and decides to investigate that… which includes a van full of listening devices?
"There is no evidence of any wrong doing"
You mean besides the tapes showing them in the middle of wrong-doing….
Who's crying like a baby, I'm just waiting on the whole story. If he did something wrong then he should be punished, you're the one carrying on like O'Keefe was a terrorist or something. get over yourself….
You don't mean "Leftist pig", comrade. Excuse me and please do not assume that I think myself in any way more equal than or superior to you, but I believe you meant to say "intellectual", or perhaps even "anti-revolutionary bourgeouis running dog". If Frankie is corecting others he obviously is an intellectual and must be made to grease the wheels of the Glorious Revolution with his running dog blood! I am happy to see that you are pointing him out for the People's Guard to address! Commendable work, Comrade!
Now, do you know if anyone will be selling bread this week, and if so, who?
It's a good thing nobody takes you seriously, or statements like "that video and audio evidence of wrongdoing means nothing" would just be laughable. Thanks for dropping by, Bertha.
…the edited and overdubbed tapes. Where are the real unedited tapes? Why are they still unreleased to this day? How can you make a judgment on edited and overdubbed tapes but pretend other people are leaping to conclusions when multiple FBI agents sign sworn affidavits?
You see, there's the bonus of registering. You get to edit or delete comments after the fact.
How and why exactly does one use their phone wiring to dump calls when it's infinitely easier just to hit ignore or leave the phone off the hook? Why do you accept as truth the idea that O'Keefe would take Landrieu's excuse that her lines were jammed (colloquial term for "inundated with phone calls) to mean that her lines were broken or somehow tampered with? This excuse makes zero sense.
"The only thing you can trust is edited, overdubbed videos from a 25 year old baby who lives with his parents and refuses to release unedited versions"
Wow, just look at that venom! the truth is that you can't take it when a liberal institution is exposed for the corrupt pile of crap that it is and that someone who's 25 did it. I can just picture you purple-faced with spittle all over the computer screen….
And since you brought up the whole "nothing to hide" mantra. Why won't your hero Obama release a real birth certificate?
There was a "pimp" in the Village People?
You lose "Pop Culture Referendum", and there is no consolation prize, so…. go home to your depressing basement apartment and eat the last of your Ramens.
"even though I'm a christian conservative… newly so, and thusly agro and angry that i was a brainwashed liberal commie atheist for 20 years."
You are not alone; there are many of us just like you that woke up and saw the light one day.
Maybe we can help convert some other lost souls to the joy known as conservativism.
Wow, your name shouldn't be ABC it should be MSNBC, Mr. Chris Matthews. Did that tingle your leg?
The Federal agent said he "believed" that their intent was to interfere with the phone lines. There was no proof to back up that assertion. There is also no accusation that O'Keefe lied to anyone in the office. So "George" it seems that you are the one who struggles with the truth. But that's OK, an internet troll who posts anonymously then runs and hides doesn't have to worry about being honest. You've picked the perfect occupation for yourself.
BTW, since only 3 people have been waterboarded (or "tortured" as you so naively suggested), and that was for the murder of over 3000 people. So to suggest that someone would be waterboarded for asking to see the phone system of a minor Senator is indeed quite the joke, it just turns out that the punchline is you're an idiot.
[...] James O’Keefe who gained fame by exposing ACORN, released a statement on Big Government about his involvement in the Senator Landrieu incident in an attempt to set the record straight. [...]
How much integrity did Kennedy have after leaving a woman to die?
Says the voice of experience. Do you need a hug, fraught?
"Good looking guys have better protection in the slammer "
I'm sorry that you had no protection in the slammer, and that your gerbil-jammer got crammed.
I cut-n-pasted the entire O'Keefe article into a MSWord document and then ran spellcheck and the grammar editors on it.. It came out CLEAN as a whistle. Seems to me that what is "poor" here is the vaildity of your criticism of O'Keefe's writing skills.
Your criticism sounds like the same verbal turds coming out of the mouths of those trying to write off Climategate as mere tomfoolery rather than utter scientific fraud. I becthca "fraught" is a Goreophile too.
When the Fourth Estate refuses to vet a presidential candidate to the extent they go out of their way to hide the truth from the public, then works with that new administration on the stories they will report and those they will ignore for their benefit, then we have neglected our sworn duty as citizens to prosecute flagrant traitorous scum.
Where was he thrown out of? The criminal complaint was fake.
George, why don't you and Ellie Light just go home to your parents basement.
Their intent wasn't to report, it was to destroy any voice that reports what they want to hide from the public.
Unfortunately (or fortunately) the laws against libel for news media are toughter than the rest of us. You have to prove a willful distortion, nit just bias and incompetence
Um, except O'Keefe wasn't caught committing a felony (since you can't cite a statute he violated), whereas the ACORN people were (it is actually a felony to agree to commit felonious acts, just ask Brian Williams). Give it a rest with the "edited tapes" crap. Most of us have seen at least one of the tapes in full. They're long, boring, and completely back up the shorter versions which had to be used on TV.
Face it, you're just a hopeless troll, desperately hanging on to any shred of a story you can to support your failed ideology. It's really pathetic.
Thanks to Andrew Breitbart for essentially nullifying this lie – before the New Media the networks would have made their pronouncements, James would have been tarred and feathered, and they'd have moved on to the "next story".
Another fact-challenged Liberal. "A van full of listening devices?" Really? Or was it a guy down the street with a walkie-talkie (like a 12 year-old would have)? Seriously, the party of Barney Frank, William Jefferson and Charlie Rangel and you have to make up stuff to smear a 25 year-old guy who's trying to expose hypocrites?
Just sad. You really need a better hobby.
Link me to non-edited or overdubbed tapes? Oops, you can't since your "journalist" won't release them since they would show what a fraud he is.
Philly, for one, and other offices.
You know that this is the same Harshbarger who "found public prominence and political success by prosecuting cases in the day care sex abuse hysteria of the 1980s.". You know, the guy that sent innocents to prison for 15+ years to advance his career. Now that's integrity, ACORN style.
Why did they ask for access to the main telephone lines for the building? To look at them? For why?
How do we know he wasn't planning to blow up the building later? I think we need to torture him so we can get the truth, just because he SAYS he wasn't going to doesn't prove anything.
Welome home Ron
Exposed by edited and overdubbed video? Would that fly in a court of law? No, I'll wait for real proof. What's the problem with releasing the whole videos? What is there to hide in the whole truth?
LOL birther. No wonder you can't tell the difference between reality and edited, overdubbed tapes, you are a nutjob.
Are you brain-dead? The video explicitly shows a tax-payer funded organization's employees offering advice on how to skirt the law to obtain housing (you know, one of ACORN's services), taxes (another of ACORN's services), turning a blind eye to illegal activity including child prostitution and human trafficking, even offering to connect them to someone involved in human trafficking. Oh, and people were fired and, as I recall, one of the people claiming to have thrown them out turned up on a tape assisting them. I suppose the Census Bureau cut ties with ACORN because they did nothing wrong.
You have proven that liberalism is a mental disorder.
Does everyone get a free felony at 25 or just people you like for releasing edited, overdubbed tapes to strike at political enemies?
Probably to get the office staff to admit there was nothing wrong with them. Seriously, unless your IQ doesn't quite make it to room temperature it's pretty easy to understand.
We've never tortured anyone for questioning (although I'm personally not against it). If you think waterboarding is torture, then I understand you're confusion over the first part of my comment. When it's something radio DJs do as a stunt, it's pretty silly to consider it torture.
No, the full unedited or overdubbed tapes have NEVER been released. The fact that his propaganda worked so well on you is scary. Reality is far far away for you now.
He is charged with a felony by real law enforcement agents, while there was no wrongdoing found at ACORN despite the edited, overdubbed tapes. Who is the desperate clinger here, sounds like the people who think the FBI is on a political witch hunt, what a joke.
The FBI agents are in on it too? How much tinfoil is your skull supporting right now?
LOL same person who refuses to release the UNEDITED tapes from ACORN waaaaaahing about journalistic integrity ROTFLMAO
a felony is a felony is a felony
perhaps the same respected & renowned journaliste who magically transformed a few tired bored community-workers playing along with a couple of prats into a vast malevolent monolith of menace against innocent Americans may want to Google "gaining access under false pretences" or "tampering" in a spare moment – perhaps between fluffy hyperbolic communiques like the one above – knowledge is power, after all
unless the "tapes" also refute the sworn statement of the FBI agent, this is all much sound & fury signifying jack-squat … & someone's been ridiculously lucky not to be already under suspicion of terrorism, because his & his trustafarian brahs' "innocent shenanigans" (a mere 4 weeks after a foiled jet-bombing attempt) are also EXACTLY like the actions of a terrorist-cell doing a "dry-run"
It doesn't explicitly show anything, as it is overdubbed and edited. Release the FULL tapes and maybe I'll believe that. Why the hold up? What is there to hide?
"You have proven that liberalism is a mental disorder. "
Ahh, yes, it's so crazy to not trust an accused felon who releases edited and overdubbed tapes and hides the full ones forever. What is he trying to hide?
Yes, they have. Right here on Big Hollywood. Seriously, how dumb are you? Talk about tin foil hats….{sigh}
Actually, he was accused of a crime based on an agent's report. He won't be officially charged until the investigation has been completed and they go before a grand jury. If the facts indicate otherwise, he'll be exonerated of all charges. Of course I'm sure if that happens you'll come running back here to admit you were wrong, right?
Sure you will.
Remember the last time a conservative messed around with a federal building? Yeah, Oklahoma City. O'Keefe very well could be another McVeigh so it is really scary for some of us who know what right wing terrorists can do. I hope his parents keep a close eye on him before he heads off to prison.
Can't wait for the trial of David Kernell, son of a Democratic politician, for illegally accessing the email of the Governor of Alaska and VP candidate. It's scheduled for April, I believe. Watch how MSNBC and Media Matters plays it down.
I got your attention. Now let's talk. First, what qualifies you to critize the investigative style James uses? Are you a seasoned investigative journalist with credentials we can review? I don't think being condesending with the New Jersey attitude "kid" stuff and tearing down the article on an insignificant technical flaw is a good way to support someone. Second, you seem to be still stuck on stupid as you make assumptions and reach conclusions without facts just like the leftie media. You might not really Be stupid, but on this point you are definitely stuck and seem to keep drinking that Koolaid. I also believe that just because you SAY you support James doesn't qualify your verbal intention as ACTUAL support. Send some money to his defense fund and appoligize for being a boor then I may reconsider.
No FBI agent has claimed there was a "van full of listening devices." I've read the affidavit. MSNBC has reported that another investigating authority has backed up O'Keefe's story that there was no attempt or intent to interfere with the phone lines. The FBI will investigate it fully, then release a report. You're claim to the contrary is a flat out lie, which is pretty ironic since you've been running around here whining that O'Keefe "doctored" the ACORN tapes.
It seems you're the dishonest one, so I'm not sure why anyone is supposed to think you're anything but a joke.
I read that entering a Federal building under false pretences is a crime that can be punished by up to 10 years in prison. I can't imagine why that penalty is so severe, unless it's a leftover from laws that were changed after Bill Ayers and the rest of the hippie-terrorists bombed Federal buildings back in the 60s. At any rate, given the politicization of Eric Holder's Justice Department, these guys will be in the pokey for a long stretch.
Where is the video of that? Good question, VERY GOOD QUESTION, I wonder why an honest journalist would have hidden that fact and not included it in his video?
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20090916_ACORN_...
Ahh yeah, those notorious lefties at the FBI.
So you ARE braindead. Thanks for confirming that. Just because the tape was edited doesn't mean that it doesn't contain the truth. The ACORN people on the tapes admitted they provided the advice as shown and their exact words are on the tape. What more do you need Mr. troll?
No, they were not. They were not full. They were edited and cut. And they were overdubbed.
"he'll be exonerated of all charges"
Ahh, like how ACORN was exonerated? Where is your apology?
An FBI source provided the quote on listening devices, bro.
Grey Man: Leftist intellectual cowards like Michael don't have a problem with Democrat/Leftist front groups who use taxpayer money to advise people on tax evasion and setting up underage brothels. Do you think he's really concerned about another lying leftist's refusal to answer phone calls?
Forgetting McVeigh?
1 or 2
With millions of calls coming in, you wouldn't want your secretary constantly hitting ignore. No average neat secretary would want a phone receiver lying around off the hook. Nor would they want to listen all day to the dial tone and then the beeping. I think that eventually the phone company would contact her to find out what the problem is.
Using the phone closet, Landrieu could route all phone calls from her official number to another line. Then only the people who knew those numbers could get through. It is not a difficult work around. The phone company could do it in a few minutes. A company nerd could also do it.
I don't know where you got the impression that I thought that O'Keefe accepted Landrieu's excuse. He was investigating that excuse.
2 of 2
My point was that, although I like his going after the truth of Landrieu's phone BS; he needed to have realized that he had no legal right to impersonate the phone company and enter Landrieu's locked phone bank. There is no individual, company, or probably any court in the world who would allow that. Our First Amendment trumps muckraking.
I want to see more young journalists exposing leftist lies via O'Keefe-like undercover work. However, they also have to realize that they are not involving themselves in high school capers, but in deadly serious moral and legal challenges.
Oh my. Another expert leftie troll. Let's all lap up your opinion like it is gospel. How much is ACORN paying to be stupid these days?
I'm gonna remain impartial on this one, though I root for Mr. Okeefe of course, considering what the country owes him for his ACORN expose. His explanation is plausible, but even if he wasn't trying to wiretap the phones,his lawyered up excuse doesn't change the fact that he made a very, very stupid move.
Wow. The troll anklebiters are coming at you today with NUTHIN'. Keep after the Lamestream, James, and sue 'em for defamation.
I take it that you based this opinion on your personal experience, zit boy.
I'm gonna quote you: "The tape was edited…it doesn't contain the truth."
See the problem? With the editing we have no idea if ACORN people said stuff like, "I know you're joking" and it was cut. With the overdubbing we have no idea what the ACORN people were actually asked. For instance, the question could have been framed clearly as a joke. There is simply no way to believe the guilt of someone based on edited and overdubbed content. I'll take a sworn affidavit from an FBI agent of that any day.
Or he could release the full tapes….
Cite?
You know, you'd help your argument that the tapes were edited and overdubbed by actually citing sources.
Prove it.
Um, when was ACORN exonerated? I wasn't even aware that there was a Congressional (or legal) investigation. I know they admitted they covered up the million dollar embezzlement by Rathke.
You IDIOT!!! I can't believe you cited that. HA HA HA HA!!!
That report was solely based on the testimony of one of the ACORN douchebags who was later shown to be a complete liar. Oh my gosh…..how deluded are you? You're proof is a 4 month old newspaper story based on the word of the person who was caught on tape lying?
Crap, you really are desperate.
Chrges will not be dropped. Don't bend over for soap in prison. You are a complete douchebag!!!!
Oops, YOU didn't provide evidence that the tapes were edited or overdubbed to begin with.
Bwahaha, so someone never charged because there is zero evidence was never "exonerated" but a felon caught red handed somehow getting off would be. You guys are precious.
Tore down Tom Delay and Nixon???? They did that too themselves just fine. What an incredible statement to make.
My bad……
Me means to wrote lieball
It's lying leftism to point out how a phone trunk works? Or to follow the advice of every defense attorney ever? Good to know.
cite what?
Dude, give us a cite that the tapes were edited and overdubbed.
The main line they got wanted access too wasn't even in her office, dude. It was the line for the building. There is no innocent explanation for that.
We didn't do it while questioning them? What? That makes it even worse if it was just being done to be sadistic.
You really are an idiot, aren't you?
An official close to the investigation said one of the four was arrested with a listening device in a car blocks from the senator's offices. He spoke on condition of anonymity because that information was not included in official arresting documents.
So when I said it was a guy with a walkie-talkie, not a van full of listening equipment, you said I was wrong because an unnamed FBI source said a guy was sitting in a car with a listening device (you know….a walkie-talkie). Where's the van, douchebag?
Seriously, the dumbest troll I've ever argued with.
Was it widely reported? Did the left acknowledge that it happened? What were their reactions?
But you said they were exonerated. Seriously, I want you to show me when they were exonerated and by whom. You're the one who brought it up. Surely you weren't just making it up, were you?
Come on, bright boy. Show me when they were exonerated…..or shut up and crawl back to Daily KOS-land.
I didn't link because it isn't even in dispute, the videos make it clear themselves and O'Keefe has NEVER denied it, but if you need a link:
http://mediamatters.org/research/200910210021
Oh look! I have the police report!
http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/...
Looks like maybe you and your buddies are the ones who need to examine what media they read, since your favorite journalist is an accused felon and all.
Care to have an impartial investigation. Would you have allowed the Nixon White House to investigate the Watergate breakin and then let the matter drop if they found no wrong doing?
Link me to them, as I asked already. None of the released tapes are full and unaltered, O'Keefe doesn't even deny that HIMSELF. HE DOESN'T DENY OVERDUBBING, HE ANNOUNCES HE IS DOING IT.
The Daily Show overdubs every night, it's not that hard. If you want anyone to take criminal allegations seriously you don't get to edit.
We've never tortured anyone, moron. Funny how you ignore the fact that DJs get waterboarded as a stunt (and all our SEALS have to go through it as part of their training), but you weep inconsolably for the 3 murderers who had it done to them (and don't care about the hundreds of lives saved by the information that was obtained by doing it).
Like the typical Liberal, you pretend to care, but are happy to let other people die to make your point.
I responded to your juvenile post but the moderators saw fit to protect you from my retort.
I suppose you think Sarah violated ethics rules and that her "self investigation" doesn't count too?
Look, unless you can point out anything actually wrong with the investigation you have nothing. Let me explain your logic to you:
1. Acorn is bad.
2. So the investigation is suspect.
Of course, if Acorn ISN'T evil incarnate, than there is no reason to suspect the investigation unless you have something to actually complain about…
He says so himself in the videos. But I can see why you wouldn't trust an accused felon like him.
http://mediamatters.org/research/200910210021
He says so himself in the videos, but who trusts felons anyway?
http://mediamatters.org/research/200910210021
I accuse you of raping dolphins. You now stand accused, and unless you can get a court to exonerate you are guilty until proven innocent. Is that how it goes?
They weren't officially exonerated because there was never anything to charge them with since there was zero evidence of anything happening.
So now you're using Media Matters as a fact-checking organization? Seriously? Once again, no claim of an "overdub" other than them admitting O'Keefe had to mute the person's responses regularly because of ACORN's legal threats. He clearly said that if ACORN would give permission to let him air the tape, he'd air it unedited. Strangely, ACORN didn't want him to. Why do you suppose that is?
Dude, that's just weak. When you file a police report hours after a person leaves, it doesn't prove you "threw them out." Especially when that person has video of you being their best buddy ever.
Release the unedited ACORN tapes.
Wow, semantics. He was sitting there with a listening device, it could have been on a unicycle, it doesn't change what he did. No source says walkie talkie, you believe that because you want to believe.
Yes, and was that police report filed during O'Keefe's visit, or long after he had left? Did the officer interview O'Keefe? Was there any follow-up? Where was the investigation?
I've got a police report that shows me telling the police that you're a complete nutter, so obviously it must be true, right? {sigh}
I'm gonna try again. I can't go repeat what I wrote the first time but let's see if this goes through. I notice that you wanna have a civil discourse after I slapped you down. Too late. You're a moron. I'm outta here.
I hardly call Media Matters an unbiased source of information.
Innocent 'til proven guilty, troll.
Bwahahaha, goalposts are moving.
So, now hours later, we admit there was overdubbing and editing. Oh but *excuses*.
Even if there was nothing to hide, it doesn't matter. Edited and overdubbed video can't be used to say someone is guilty. If he has real evidence of wrongdoing he is free to turn it over to law enforcement so they can prosecute, there is a reason this never happened. The unedited videos do not support his claims.
Bwahahaha, goalposts shifting again. He got tossed out and reported to the police, if he wants to release the full video to prove otherwise, he can go ahead and do that. Why hasn't he?
LOL, care to point out where they have the facts wrong?
like ACORN?
No charges have been filed yet. There is no guarantee that any will be.
Dressing up like a telephone repairman to enter a federal building might be felonious, especially under Homeland Security laws. At this point, it seems that the real problem is trying to get into the phone bank. The prosecutor might also have the choice of making the charge a misdemeanor or not bothering at all – depending on the circumstances.
However, conspiring to help pimps move more than a dozen 13 year old girls into the USA from impoverished lands to be beaten, drugged, gang raped, pedophiled, psychologically f*cked with and otherwise destroyed is enough to throw a number of ACORN b*stards in jail for the rest of their lives. Unfortunately for the good guys, Barney Frank and B. Hussein O. Jr. would object.
As I recall the people who got waterboarded as a stunt immediately confirmed it was torture and way worse than they imagined. We prosecuted foreign war criminals for using waterboard torture on our troops.
Funny how you can defend torture on accused murderers in a thread where the conservative whining about innocent until proven guilty is blotting out the sun.
Should Keefe be considered innocent until proven guilty?
Unfortunately, the only evidence we have that this happened is edited, overdubbed tapes. It might help move forward the process if some real evidence could be provided.
Also, are we going to hold Brietbart responsible for what his employees do like you want with ACORN?
ROTFLMAO, care to find another source?
Good on you, James!
Keep up the deep probes…or as my urologist would say, "…going where few dare to go…" (and with the Dems, encountering much the same ..uh…content. lol..) The pioneers take the arrows, my friend, and YOU have balls — no one can take that from you.
I love it that the MSM, so eager to have their gotcha 'Watergate moment'…ended up looking stupid. Landrieu is a spineless, corrupt shill…and everyone knows it.
Should ACORN?
Why don't you follow the links? Or does their bias transmit through the interwebs that way too? Too bad some of the links are to FOX and the videos themselves. Looks like O'Keefe is a big old lefty.
I had no idea acorn is a person…but a very large and corrupt organization. So.. should O'keefe.. a PERSON be considered innocent until proven guilty. or are you truly a leftist that belongs in Europe where guilty until proven innocent.
[...] Did the MSM maliciously report a break-in and attempt to wiretap Senator Landrieu’s office? [...]
So you think organizations don't get to be innocent until proven guilty? Corporate lawyers aren't gonna like that.
No good answers or explanations for the continued hiding of the real tapes, of course.
George, I hope you are smoking something good because your logic is lacking and your ability to believe anything is astonishing.
The accusations against Sarah Palin were not dismissed because of a self-investigation. They went before an independent and impartial body. Allegations against Acorn were investigated by the accused organization and people who have benefited politically or once worked with the same organization they were called to investigate.
Relax, Frankie. It's a JOKE. You need a sense of humor, you big sourpuss.
I'm gonna call you "Frankie Batz" from now on.
…As it should be, then the security videos and witness testimonies will be taken into court and then its guilty as sin! O'Keefe and his spoiled rich young republican friends can do some investigative journalism of "hide the salami in the meat cave" with members of the Aryan brotherhood and the Latin Kings inside a Federal Penitentiary.
Fun times for all!!
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Stop praising yourself as a journalist, you're as biased as the rest of the media, you would NEVER investigate one of your own conservatives.
Keep your pants on, George! Wait 'til the grand jury makes its decision, then fantasize about sodomy.
So, what you're saying is that this whole thing started because you were too effing stupid to know what "jammed phone lines" are?
Stick it to the Man, Jimmy OK!
Will everybody friggin calm down. Take a deep breath…
What I find amazing is the very same leftist SOS that are suspicious of everything government with Bush (the constitution is being shredded, the patriot act is Hitler incarnate, kill you officers enlisted men , and BUSHITLERBURTON!!) suddenly find that this government "indictment" must be as true and pure as the wind driven snow….funny that. Let’s not even wait for the trial, let’s just send O”Keefe down to gitmo where he belongs..and we’ll bring the innocent terrorists up here. That reflects our American values
We ALL harangue other people for mis-spellings. No big deal.
"…Let’s not even wait for the trial, let’s just send O”Keefe down to gitmo where he belongs…"
This is the most coherent portion of your drug induced prattling. Lay of the Oxycontin though, just because your obese AM radio hero does it doesn't mean you should.
God Bless America
Sorry Frankie, but why is that the question of the day? Quit burying your head in the sand, dude.
Gee Michael, are you projecting your desire to be manhandled in prison again?
Speaking of running ones mouth off like an idiot, Michael, you are doing just that. Shut the hell up and then we wont know what kind of a moron you really are.
Apparently George is too stupid to listen to what this article stated and why he did what he did. Some people, like George, are unable to learn anything.
"It's not a joke to suggest a Muslim would be tortured if they tried this"
Sure in hell sounded like a stupid joke to me.
George, you troll much? Giving the dumbass pre-canned responses that you are giving is not only boring but it is just plain stupid too.
Speaking of cheapening things. Your comments seem to beg the issue of whether you give a damn about the details or you just want to politic for your team.
You do seem to be the typical stupid koolaid dringer Frankie. Any attempt from you to slap somebody down will just make you look even less informed. You are on the wrong team and it is obvious.
Socialist ideas are really stupid, thank goodness those or liberal ideas.
"your obese AM radio hero " Leave your mother out of this.
Oh and Chris Mathews called, since you and bubba are through, he wants his knee-pads back. Run along now mooncalf.
Allah Bless USKKKof A
You make a living out of being a worthless troll do you?
[...] I do not believe that O’Keefe meant to wire tap a phone, in fact in my previous post I said “interfere with”. To be clear, O’Keefe did not break intoany office…his cohorts did. But this is what O’Keefe has to say: [...]
The tapes aren't "overdubbed". Or are you asserting that O'Keefe hired a company to move the ACORN employees' lips in time with fake dialog he later recorded?
They are 'edited' in that he didn't show the entire, hours-long tapes from the time he woke up and brushed his teeth until he got home that night. However each scene with the ACORN employees is available in its entirety from the time he entered the ACORN office until he left.
But of course this is all obvious, and you're just being an idiot. The thing is, we can admit O'Keefe was stupid to get all bigheaded about his rise to fame and then try to wage an even bigger stunt, particularly when every Democrat now knows his face (which speaks a lot for how 'fake' his tapes supposedly were). You just can't admit ACORN – which has been the target of endless investigations for improper conduct including voter fraud, voter intimidation, misappropriation of funds, and encouraging illegal activity – is what we all know it is: a crony organization that helps empower the party to which you are a mental slave.
The 'real tapes'? Please stop saying 'goalposts shifting' every time your idiocy is pointed out. It just makes you look even dumber.
You wouldn't know a civil discourse if it ran you over like a mack truck. You are a profane, name calling, poor excuse for a humman being. Calling me names only confirms my suspicions. How about addressing my questions to you in a civil manner? Nah, that would be way over your paygrade.
You are unable to make that criticism on the facts. I usually note that folks who make statements like yours are usually unable to punctuate or use correct grammer themselves. I note that you omitted a period at the end of your post. Where did YOU learn punctuation?
No one accuses the FBI here. The FBI was just doing their job after being called by Landrieu's staff. . It's Landrieu, the corrupt democrats and the leftie media that incited the riot over nothing as usual. You can read, right? How about comprehension? That isn't your strong suit?
Yes, for sheer brilliance of ideas, we always look to the Democratic party.
How about raising the minimum wage another 40% and spending 4 trillion more dollars? That worked so well.
Nonsense. The tapes were not edited in a way that altered what ACORN criminals were saying. Nonsense.
Nearly all the interviews with ACORN employees included those workers going along with the rape of kidnapped foreign children. None of that was made up.
Brietbart is not O'Keefe. Nor does O’Keefe work for him. However, if you nail Brietbart’s employees on video tape acting out as pervertedly as the ACORN criminals who O'Keefe exposed, we will rally behind the muckraker, not Brietbart.
So far Big Hollywood is not under investigation in about 15 states as ACORN was before O'Keefe took the initiative to expose them for atrocities that no one else had yet accused them of.
Mr. O'Keefe – the moment I realized that the Senator accusing you of 'bugging' her phones was the same Senator who'd suffered the worst damage from your ACORN investigation, than I smelled a rat. The stench got even worse when I listened to the same MSNBC reporter who refused to peep a word about the ACORN debacle now scream at the top of his lungs at Breitbart. Your explanation totally confirms my suspicions all along – the 'crime' for which you were accused was in reality nothing but a false charge which the guilty were desperate to use in order to shift the ugly spotlight from themselves onto you. Veritas yourself, hon.
Its not the press this idiot needs to worry about, its the courts. And after that it will be Bubba.
Pretty good message framing though. What else can he do but try to sway public opinion and hope it turns a judge and/or jury lenient on him for committing a felony. I love the idiots in here praising him too. What a bunch rubes.
Rube alert!
He's trying to sway public opinion and get the rubes fired up for his defense. i can see vigils outside his parents house dedicated to his hero-ship. We'll set up protests outside the courtroom. A true American hero this future felon is.
Sounds a bit like East Anglia data…
Are you still helping OJ look for the real killers too?
I think you confused James with Chris Mathews, yeah? Or is Obama?
I hope this all gets sorted out and it ends up being much ado about nothing. The most interesting aspect to me is how the MSM couldn't wait to jump on this story with both barrels blazing after virtually ignoring the ACORN scandal/criminal enterprise. Biased hypocrites.
Are you people out of your effing minds? Do you recognize intelligent exchange? I said nothing wrong other than this KID should have thought better on this thing. A simple opinion. Then this coward bahiyabillybob attacks me and says I must be "stuck on stupid" and that I'm a "koolaid drinker" or as you state "koolaid dringer" he further takes a not so subtle swipe at my parentage, and when I respond in like the moderators deem it not worthy for unknown reasons, then you jump in to aid this one note town crier! I don't need to prove my conservative bona fides to anyone on this site. I'm through the effen looking glass! I'm a staunch conservative that is being attacked by verifiable koolaid drinkers from my own camp! You walk in lockstep, arm in arm, because the person James O'Keefe was targeting is in the "enemy camp". That type of blind support is the very definition of a koolaid drinker! I applaud O'Keefe's effort, I support his goal, I merely commented that it was a misfire. Again, the insults began with bahiyawatha's response to my earnest post.
Absolutely AMAZING!!! The night this story broke CNN and MSNBC covered it as BREAKING NEWS. I recalled it taking them a week to cover the first stroy Mr. Okeefe brought to light and when they were tired of lagging behind the fray they covered the ACORN videos grudgingly but yet there was an air of enthusiasm the night they eagerly reported that he was arrested. Yet again the truth has blown up in their faces. Will they ever stop and their jobs responsibly?!
The public will judge whether reporters who can’t get their facts straight have the credibility to question my integrity as a journalist.
Street cred is built slowly but surely…I'd say you are well on your way to establishing excellent credentials. It is amusing to watch the left contort themselves into knots over this that even a Boy Scout couldn't unravel.
Yup, this sounds like another Watergate to me.
I certainly hope that all the MSM fesses up and admits they jumped the gun on this one.
If you really think the phones were jammed for more than a few days, then weeks and now months, I really admire the way you think. And speaking out sure helped muddy up my initial mis-perception of the crime of the century.
/Agreed
The langauge is being used as a weapon by those on the left it is only smart that we return the favor in kind.
Except that "Waaahh! She wouldn't answer my phone call!" is not a defense for the laws O'Keefe apparently broke. I realize it's a right-wing mantra that laws only count if liberals break them, but you might want to ask the gentleman who murdered that doctor in Kansas City how well the "I get to break any law I want because I'm morally superior to you" defense works.
Did you call Vitter's office, or at the brothel?
I really don't see how this is any different than any other investigative reporter doing any other report and getting caught doing it. As far as the law is concerned. As for the media it's because you're not one of thiers that they're not reporting it in an honest light but in the most slipshod and tabloid style possible.
Wow, I never realized that in teabag land, if an accused criminal denies the crime, he must be innocent.
Frankie did say "don't mean to nitpick". It's not like he's disregarding his comment because he spelled libel wrong.
I've found that folks that dress up like the Village People, in fact, make the best professionals. They work hard, they play hard.
It is Landrieu who should go to prison. Maybe you could teach her how to get smokes. Sounds like you have it down pat youself.
Is the "journalist" ever going to release unedited tapes without overdubbing? Or retract his claims that no one tossed him out or called the police? Or explain why no legal investigations found any wrongdoing on ACORN's part? Lovely seeing you continue to make false accusations against ACORN while whining like little babies that your aren't allowed to mess with communications at federal buildings.
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You sound like a broken record. Either you don't have any other ideas, or you think that repeating it over and over and over will convince us that it's the truth.
Quite so. The FBI aren't quite political enough to have a dog in this fight; I think we can trust them to be impartial.
On the other hand, if it was the CIA he'd crossed, James would REALLY be fucked.
sounds like you know whereof you speak. do you & Bubba stay in touch?
that would just be an unnecessarily redundant effort with 95% of traditional media already doing it (i.e. eleven, count 'em- 11, AP fact-checkers assigned to Palin's book). is it ok with you if a few people investigate lefties?
You don't believe in innocent until proven guilty? How open-minded of you. {sigh}
No, "the people" who got waterboarded had a variety of reactions. That doesn't change the fact that all of our Navy SEALs and many other military elite groups undergo waterboarding as part of their training. It's not torture. You comparing it to torture (i.e. the intentional infliction of pain or debilitating injury) minimizes the term to those who've actually faced it. I get that you're so in touch with your feminine side that the idea of a mass murderer being made uncomfortable causes you to lose sleep at night, but that doesn't make it torture.
If you ask the DJs who tried waterboarding which they'd rather do, undergo more waterboarding or face years in jail, which do you think they'd choose? Does that mean we should immediately stop imprisoning criminals because it's too mean?
I love the way you combine ignorance with a dogged pursuit of getting the last word. It's kind of endearing (in a socially retarded kind of way).
No, I never said the tapes weren't edited. Of course they were you goof (I'm going to have to stop talking to you because I'm running out of words to describe your considerable lack of intellect). ALL video is edited. They make a tape, then they edit it (for audio problems, video problems, and time constraints). It's like talking to an 8 year-old. Were you screaming that Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric were wrong because their Sarah Palin interviews were edited? There was overdubbing as well. Oh gee….how will we survive?
At least you're proving that Syntax isn't the stupidest person to post here. I'm sure he's glad for your support.
BTW, I've seen the unedited video of one of the locations (as I've told you repeatedly), and there is NO DIFFERENCE between that and the versions on TV except the duration. Geez, John Stewart played the video and said these people were criminals. How freaking stupid can you be?
Sadly, I'm guessing we're going to find out. {sigh}
WTF are you talking about? I'm so intellectual that your point escapes me. I all but apologized for correcting a mistake. I acknowledged that it was douchey (a real intellectual's word) of me. Now, I will tell you in no uncertain intellectual terms to GFY.
"What more do you need Mr. troll?"
I'm thinking a lobotomy for starters.
And the people who worked for ACORN and asked for an investigation were all fired. Funny, pretty much all of them were minorities, so I guess ACORN is a racist front for Leftists.
Duke Cunningham? A convicted felon? I wouldn't go defending Tom DeLay either. You're talking about the guy who ran the House Of Representatives while Republicans went on their spending spree (and had a complete lack of ideas on how to run the country) that put us in the position we are in today. Barack, Nancy and Harry are direct results of Republicans who were every bit as corrupt (ethically if not legally) as the Democrats.
Joe McCarthy shouldn't be anyone's hero either. He had legitimate grievances and uncovered some communist organizations, but was a thug who was an embarrassment to our way of governing.
I'll bet if I cleared my desk and looked at you, I could put you in prison before O'Keefe's case is even brought up…Would you like to bet??
Oh goody! More random attacks, care to point out an incorrect fact in his ACORN investigation….? Of course not, just slanderville in conservativeland.
Really? Where's the videotape of that (because I've got some videotape of the people who couldn't wait to help him import children to be raped).
I recall it was widely reported at the time and the left didn't pretend it never happened like you guys on the right always do.
James O'Keefe's idea is a good one as we all want to see the depth of Democrat corruption in Congress among the Lefties like Senator Landrieu shown to the world. Or would you prefer to hide and run away from the truth to save your socialist agenda, leftie?.
He did release the full tapes, half-wit. Even if you saw the whole thing, you'd never admit it. There would always be some mysterious reason why it couldn't possibly be true. You're such a complete and utter zealot that you can't make yourself believe your heroes could be anything less than what you pretend them to be.
I've been a sound professional for 25 years and your claim that edited tapes must be bogus is hysterical. In case you didn't know it, virtually all news stories and interviews use edited tape (because no one would sit through hours of boring conversation to listen to the 5 minutes that are actually interesting). You can't overdub a tape to get it to sound like people are saying something they are not and still have it sync up to their lips.
You truly are one of the nuttiest of the nutters. You're a 9/11 conspiracy guy, aren't you? You could have just started off the conversation that way and saved us the trouble.
http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2010/01/ac...
Wow, I've read the writings of convicted felons before, but never a soon-to-be convicted felon!
Remember don't push back from Bubba or you'll tear your colon.
Well, he should have approached it differently. And he admits it. But I will say this….we need more people like him to try and uncover the lies and just tell the truth. The kid has some kahoonies, and more power to him. But think about it more next time kid, dont give the lefties and commies anything to hang you on.
someone needs a cookie
that's perfectly fine, in fact, I like it. I'm just saying he gets praised as a "real" journalist with integrity. I'm simply saying there is no such thing anymore.
[...] O’Keefe has a statement up [...]
So you're saying because O'Keefe added his own commentary to the video, the words coming out of the mouths of ACORN employees are meaningless?
Whatever Dai was doing hanging out in his car is actually irrelevant to the point about there being no justifiable reason for them to try to gain entry to the central phone locker. I'm sure there will be some rather poor, well after the fact attempt to find some excuse. I personally don't see any possibility of any believable explanation that doesn't involve intent to tamper. "We just wanted to look" ain't going to cut it.
Also, while Jefferson is a corrupt sack of manure that got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, he's still small potatoes compared to the likes of Duke Cunningham. You might want to watch where you're throwing them stones. Regardless, no amount of anyone else's criminality makes young Mr. O'Keefe any less responsible for his actions.
You know, the beauty of not being an ideologue (not Republican or Conservative) is that I don't have to apologize for douchebags in my party. I lean Right because the Left has lost it's freaking mind. If John Kennedy was alive today he'd be called a NeoCon. Cutting taxes? Sacrilege!
I hate scumbags in both parties. The problem is, with the Dems in control of everything, they've taken corruption to a new level. Jefferson was never even punished by the House. That should make every Democrat out there cringe.
Back to O'Keefe, I think the stunt is stupid because there is no upside. He got involved in something ridiculously convoluted that at best was going to be resolved by them saying, "Look, she is just ignoring her phones." Big deal. There is no intent to tamper. The police are saying it, the FBI is saying it, and the defense (and their lawyers) are saying it. The only people claiming there was intent are people who have nothing to do with Landrieu's office or the case (i.e. the MSM & Liberal bloggers). I don't care if you think the truth "cuts it" or not, if it's the truth, then that's what it is.
No, I read a source days ago that said walkie talkie. If that turns out to be incorrect, then so be it. At the moment nobody is saying anything different.
That STILL doesn't change the fact that I corrected someone who said there was a "van full of listening equipment." You said I was wrong. Then you posted a link that said almost word for word what I did.
Therefore you are a moron.
Um….McVeigh wasn't a Conservative, douchebag. But thanks for using the deaths of hundreds of men, women, & children as a vehicle to make a phony political point.
Perhaps the same Liberals who ignored an organization so corrupt that when it's founder's brother was discovered to have embezzled over a million dollars (which was hidden from the authorities), will some day develop a conscious and care about scams that use the poor in order to skim millions from the taxpayers.
Liberals who've posted here also conveniently ignore the fact that ACORN has been investigated, tried and convicted in numerous states for voter registration fraud. They've been accused of misappropriating charitable funds for partisan political activities as well, but have never been investigated. That plus the fact that there are people on tape saying ACORN reps told them they'd drive them to the polls if the people would promise to vote Democrat (seriously illegal). Oh yeah, and they have ties to a certain corrupt union as well.
Nothing to see here people, move along. It's all that guy in the pimp costume's fault.
I never realized that in Liberal Doucehville, if a cop or federal agent says he believes someone is guilty, it must instantly mean that they are. I guess we can do away with trials now.
Wow, that was needlessly harsh for someone pointing out a typo. Pretty sure we all do that.
What an asinine thing to say. It's called investigative journalism. And no, ACORN's goal is not to provide advice to criminals. Its goal is to get Democrats elected and further the liberal agenda. The fact that they're ready and willing to participate in illegal activity to accomplish this gives us some insight into their ethics. Many, if not most, of the people who work at ACORN share the liberal view that hookers and pimps are simply "disadvantaged" citizens who need help, even if that help includes furthering criminal enterprises.
I believe you're missing the point. Mr. O'Keefe claims he DID NOT BREAK THE LAWS that the media claimed he did. Your comments are laughably infantile. Demonizing the opposition because you can't participate in reasoned, intelligent debate. O'Keefe is using common investigative journalism techniques (under cover reporting, hidden cameras, etc.) to expose what he believes is corruption. He said himself he filmed THE ENTIRE situation and handed those tapes over. The methods he used are regularly used by the (most) left-leaning media to expose illegal or dishonest activity (To Catch a Predator, anyone?). The MSM has no issue with that use, but vilifies O'Keefe and publicly conficts him when he uses them to expose corruption in a liberal enterprise or Democratic politician.
Great point Catoi! It is amazing the amount of bias to be found by dissecting the language used in the MSM.
and somehow these phones were "jammed" with calls at all hours of the day and night? and shouldn't a senator have adequate phone capabilities to handle calls from the people the are supposed to represent? Really Michael, you can do better.
James is obviously a smart guy and probably cleared his statement with his lawyers. I'm sure his lawyer knows this will never actually get to a trial, too embarrassing for the leftist establishment, and there is such a thing as court of public opinion. Just allowing the MSM leftists to win that war, by not saying anything, is not a good move. If it does go to trial there are the future jurors and the influence the MSM's stories will have on them to consider as well.
edited and overdubbed tapes huh?? Of course they were edited for tv, they couldn't show hours of tape, not that the MSM even wanted to show 2 minutes. The tapes in their entirety were available, and probably still are, online. If you want to watch them go ahead, but you seem to me to be the type to buy whatever you're told by leftist talking points rather than do your own research. You won't find anything to clear your precious ACORN activists on those tapes. You might even find yourself upset by it.
Someone warn people walking into th is building next halloween in costume that they are breaking the law.. especially that little known law about impersonating phone company personnel. We have it on good authority in this thread by liberals that is illegal A FELONY! GASP! Worst crime of the century.
Proof? Or your delusional thinking that Acorn is as white as driven snow? And stop with the "Employee" line. You only keep looking utterly stupid and ridiculous
Man.. this went from boys dressed up in goofy costumes and using a cell phone to get a video of the happens to a van full of listening devices. Do you seriously think repeating liberal lies will make it the truth? knock it off! There are American all over this country sick of your ridiculous whining an antics since the sixties. We are angry and yet you keep lying. When you are going to wake up to the precarious nature of your life?
That is all liberals know how to do. And for some reason they think their Kewl'aid is something desirable. We are getting mighty tired of them, and they won't like how "un-Kewl" they are going to be very soon.
Actually he probably does. You know the Lefties actually pay trolls.
Oliver North sold missiles to Iran, our sworn enemy. Sounds like treason to me. Oh, and then got himself off on a technicality. You have a pretty low standard for heroes.
Well, of course ACORN isn't "white." If they helped white people instead of (primarily) minorities, you people wouldn't hate them so much.
There is nothing in my post above stating I believe O'Keefe, or that I believe he should be "freed immediately based on his own word". Your comment is an infantile as it is ridiculous and clearly exposed your extreme bias. I simply said O'Keefe was claiming his own innocence and that the tactics he used were commonly used practices in investigative journalism.
You however seem unable accept any viewpoint other than your own. You accuse me of condoning torture and insisting an "accused felon" (a non-existent condition by the way, as someone must be CONVICTED before they become a felon) be set free, even when NOTHING in my statement refers to to torture or letting anyone go free.
Your blatant bias causes you to lump anyone who disagrees with you (or in this case doesn't hate the person you hate) into a group together. You accuse me of what you yourself are doing: judging the guilt or innocence of a person on their political affiliation rather than the facts. You are clearly uninterested in debating the topic at hand, and are content instead to cloud and obscure the issue in order to avoid discussing it. O'Keefe deserves his day in court…whether you agree with his politics doesn't change that.
you're both morons!
Sorry, but I don't automatically take the word of an accused felon when he claims innocence. I'd like to say I'm surprised that the people who want to torture accused criminals when they're not on the same team demand that their own accused felon be freed immediately based on his own word. But of course, I've visited this site before.
"Why did they ask for access to the main telephone lines for the building? To look at them? For why?
How do we know he wasn't planning to blow up the building later?"
Are you suggesting his plan might have been to blow up the building through the phone lines? Like a Phone Bomb? Do they have those now?
What is it with the liberal trolls that are into prison sex? Very strange bunch.
But not much of a surprise.
You should move to China. You're a better fit there. Work for their government and it's even better. Don't waist your time here. There's only one side there. No counter. Fit your views. This is a God and freedom first country. Let me think, hummm? Mao and Mother Theresa as two of your favorite philosophers too? Let add Acorn in the mix. Admit it lefty, you're in the wrong country. There you can have a semblance of a one world government the leftist are working for. Start fresh. Be the best you can be there.
ACORN is helping blacks maintain their status as cripples who have no choice but to learn how to finagle government hand-outs.
I don't hate you and I don't hate O'Keefe. You're an anonymous poster on the internet and O'Keefe is a clown with an inflated sense of self-importance, neither of whom have any impact on my life. If I hated people with whom I have so little relationship, I'd be in a constant state of rage and fear — kind of like most of the posters here who believe Obama wants to put them in concentration camps.
I agree O'Keefe deserves his day in court. Be nice if you had the same thoughts about ACORN, but of course everyone here has decided they're guilty based on some doctored tapes. One standard for your guys, one for the other team.
Breitbart says he pays O'Keefe.
For someone who doesn't hate you sure make a lot of hateful and incorrect assumption.
"Be nice if you had the same thoughts about ACORN, but of course everyone here has decided they're guilty based on some doctored tapes. One standard for your guys, one for the other team."
Here's an idea: How about finding out my opinion on a topic BEFORE accusing me of having a double-standard? As you said you know nothing about me. Yet you're more than happy to accuse me of things with no reason to do so.
Your obvious bias shows through your baseless accusations. Was there a single word in my posts about ACORN? Did I even USE THE WORD ACORN? No, I didn't. Yet you can't see beyond your own bias and obvious contempt for anyone who doesn't agree with your point of view, so you attack. How is that anything BUT hate?
I Breiebart say on Red Eye that O'Keefe was not his employee Probably O'Keefe is an independent contractor. If he takes something to Brietbart that he wants, he gets paid.
perhaps you are unaware that all of the discrepancies found in voter registration done by acorn were FOUND by acorn and turned over to the authorities for action. some of the people that acorn hired were too lazy to do their jobs of registering voters so they made up names etc out of phone books and acorn has ways to cross check them. So not one case of voter FRAUD ever occurred. Check it out and verify.
when do you expect james to release the unedited tapes he made at acorn offices? Never. Guess you guys belong to the cult of Rush and Fox.
[...] A different story: “Statement from James O’Keefe“, Big Hollywood, 29 January 2010 — “The sole intent of our investigation was to [...]
[...] A different story: “Statement from James O’Keefe“, Big Hollywood, 29 January 2010 — “The sole intent of our investigation was to [...]
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