WE LOVE PIXAR: How Hollywood Cynicism Almost Ruined ‘Toy Story’ (and Pixar)
by Jason Killian MeathOkay okay, Big Hollywood — and people all over the world — love Pixar. I get it, I get it. But why is Hollywood missing it?!
It is obvious the studio honchos can’t quite fancy what gives Pixar the upper hand in churning out hit after hit, otherwise they would have bottled and sold it in mass quantities. Here’s a hunch — Pixar’s success might have something to do with respect for the audience.

Toy Story 3 was again the week’s #1 movie topping new fare from Adam Sandler, Tom Cruise and Cameron Diaz. For well over a decade, Pixar has single-handedly delivered a new golden-age of animated film-making. Just like it was thrilling to be a teenager growing up with Luke Skywalker, E.T. and Marty McFly, it is easy to see why today’s kids are electrified by Buzz Lightyear, The Incredibles and Wall-e.
But it’s worth considering that the original Toy Story never should have worked under the Hollywood studio executive orthodoxy. In the early 1990’s, computer animated feature films did not exist, yet Disney took a risk to fund a group of PhD’s who swore they could make it work. It wasn’t just the technology they believed in, but in the stories they could tell. The animation was futuristic, but Pixar leader John Lasseter envisioned using it to tell a home-spun tale of a typical American boy and his best pal Woody, who happened to be a 1950’s era toy cowboy. But…
…Jeffrey Katzenberg, then Chairman of the struggling Disney Animation Studios, pressured Lasseter and the budding geniuses of Pixar to steer away from family entertainment. In the documentary “A Pixar Story,” Disney’s Tom Schumacher recounts, “Jeffrey would always be pushing for what he called ‘the edge… snappy, adult, on the edge of inappropriate, and not too young.’ In fact, Katzenberg even suggested they lose the word “toy” from the title so as not to scare away teens.
Under Katzenberg’s charge, Toy Story became an irreverent, mean-spirited muddled mess. It was only when Lasseter, Pete Docter, Andrew Stanton and others returned to the old-fashioned idea of staying true to their vision that Toy Story came alive. The ‘edgy’ storyboards were thrown on the scrapheap, and the characters were re-drawn from the heart of the writers. The rest is history: Toy Story became a family-oriented, masterfully told hit film and one of the most beloved franchises in modern cinema. But it is worth mentioning the film’s allure came when the budding filmmakers stopped making what they thought the studio wanted, and instead made the film they would want their kids to watch.
Could it be that the boring old concept of quality, unoffensive family entertainment could be something that makes good box office? Fact is, Katzenberg, and much of the Hollywood establishment, seem to hold a cynical view of American audiences. It is one reason the LA Times called Katzenberg an “indefatigable huckster” for his obsession with driving box office revenue through gimmicks like 3-D (often at the expense of quality storytelling).
Pixar happily chugs along making thoughtful, even wholesome, blockbuster pictures like Toy Story 3, Up and Finding Nemo, while Katzenberg working on his latest indellible contribution to American cinema: Kung Fu Panda: The Kaboom of Doom. Fear not, it is sure to be offered in eye-popping 3-D.
I’ll save my money for whatever Pixar comes out with next.






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I'll bet at least half the reason for their success is that they are 400 miles away from Hollywood, in Emeryville…
To be fair to Katzenberg, Dreamworks has improved of late. Kung Fu Panda wasn't bad and How to Train Your Dragon was excellent.
Good point. I wonder how many Hollywood types would dare to venture out of the bubble and go to Emeryville? Very few, I'd wager.
The rise and success of Pixar and their brand of computer generated entertainment is very easy to explain. You see, back in the 1980's, astute politicians identified a need to revitalize the traditional and worn-out movie industry. Committees – blue-ribbon, of course – were formed and funds were allocated. Tremendous amounts of tax-payer monies were granted to research outfits at major universities. After much toil and turmoil – millions upon millions had to be spent to change the minds of the consumer and the Hollywood powers-that-be, both – a workable plan was developed. This workable plan was made law – studios became required to produce a certain percentage of computer-generated entertainment or face heavy fines.
Thanks to the government, this came to be. Without the government, it would never have come to be.
Oops. Never mind. It was an opportunity identified by people within the free market. They saw it, they seized it, they kicked its arse. This is how things are supposed to work.
It doesn't surprise me that Hollywood almost ruined, not only a great movie, but a great series and a great company like Pixar. They say sex and edge sells and maybe it does in some spots, but it pales in comparison to creativity, inventiveness and heart.
These people like Katzenberg must really be screwed up in the head and have their morality completely out of whack. Why is it that these people think you need sex, violence and edge to tell a mature story or connect with the audience? Oh, right, because they don't respect their audience.
I have to imagine that the only part of Disney that puts a smile on Walt's face is Pixar.
I also enjoyed Shrek Forever After, but still, that's not the level of quality that Pixar was going for. They were aiming to surpass that level and so they did. If Kung Fu Panda wasn't bad and How to Train Your Dragon was excellent, most of PIxar's offerings can be rightly attributed as masterpieces.
I'm quite fond of Panda, and my son loves El Dorado. All the Shreks after the first one could have been released straight to video as far as I'm concerned.
At least 50% + 1. I work from home and its amazing what I can accomplish with out my manager sticking his head in the door saying 'get back to work.'
I kind of like the Shrek franchise, but it's seems a little campy to me. Like the laughs are more control group tested.
Pixar reminds me more of all night cram sessions to finish off term papers in college. Not really sure if the professor is going to buy it, but here's the finished product.
I like it.
Free markets baby! Learn 'em, live 'em, love 'em!
A free market means no one can tell me what movie I can and can not see. My decision. Freedom.
If you ask me its a control freak kind of thing. I know many people with it. Society and life can be perfectly ordered. And they are just the people to do it. He has it so set in his mind that he knows how people think, so life has to be that way.
But they are almost always wrong.
"I have to imagine that the only part of Disney that puts a smile on Walt's face is Pixar."
He's a fan, in particular, of the Ice Age movies. *rimshot*
(Yeah, yeah, not Pixar…)
I was right with you until you busted on Kung Fu Panda: that is by FAR the best movie Dreamworks has made since The Prince of Egypt, cringe-inducing title and crummy trailers notwithstanding. Watch it and you'll see. I, for one, cannot wait for the sequel. Pixar's great, but even they have fallen into a bit of a predictable pattern, so it's nice to see some variations now and then.
Skadoosh!
Pixar is branching out into non animated films as well, they are finishing up John Carter of Mars and that is a long loved book series from Edgar Rice Burroughs, the creator of Tarzan. I am hoping that they can stay true to the book and make it as good if not better than the original Pirates.
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I hope Pixar will thrive with further great animation movies as long as the doctrine and storytelling formula of John Lasseter is perfectly intact in them. Forget those cynical, edgy, sex-sell, melancholic-driven formula from the Hollywood Left.
How to Train Your Dragon was excellent, and Kung Fu Panda was pretty good. It's the only movie besides Tropic Thunder that didn't make me want to drop an Acme safe on Jack Black…. if a movie can do that, it's a winner.
Only if you live in India.
Between taxes and regulations, its just too expensive to hire American workers for the telecommunication workers. The only exception is for what we call "hands and feet" when you have to have some one on site to actually touch computers and network appliances. And those guys are friggin clueless too.
I get so frustrated when I hear politicians spout off about how greedy CEOs are off shoring work. The reason jobs are getting off shored is because government makes it too expensive to employ Americans.
The only way I can keep my job is to generate more revenue than it costs to pay me. Every time the feds make that more expensive, another 10,000 jobs go over seas. If they don't stop, the only jobs in America will be the ones that can't be exported because you need some one on site.
It's getting pretty gnarly in India too. We've got people walking off the jobs now for better pay. I heard they had 25% of the workers up and quit at the data center in Chennai because other new companies are offering 20 – 40% more money. So maybe in a while they'll have to start hiring Americans again, because India is too expensive.
Thank God I'm one of those clueless "hands and feet" guys…..
kung fu panda's animation was great and all, but the movie just didn't have heart. none!
pixar's movies all have HEART and that is what we all have, at least some of us. those that don't, probably like janene crapalotaho!
PIXAR ROCKS AND SAVED DISNEY'S ASS…
In some respects, Katzenberg is right. Monumental Visual Dreck like Avatar worked and broke new ground despite its alternate title (Dances with Blue People).
Here is hoping that Pixar's founding principles last and that the storytelling remains. Otherwise, we are all doomed to be left with nothing but fart jokes, grade school storytelling, and half naked wet dreams generated in vivid CGI. None of which I object too, of course, but I gaurantee you I will watch Toy Story a dozen times again before I subject myself to Avatar again. Thank you Jon Lasseter.
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Sorta Agree, AG… Kung Fu Panda IMO was one of those movies that Dreamworks finally realized they needed to get back to the formula that is working for PIxar. Dreamwork's problem is that that KFP just may have come too late for the company.
I do disagree with you on the predictable pattern for Pixar though , AG.
Too bad the next Pixar movie is a sequel to their weakest film yet: Cars.
Until they figure out they can move the servers over seas. I hear google wants to move a bunch of server farms out to a ship outside of US territorial waters to avoid taxes.
And having read and enjoyed many of your comments, you are not clueless. Not like these guys. Takes two weeks to get some one on the raised floor, and then they show up, say they can't find it and leave.
Are you in the I/T business? What do you do?
Hey you have to admit, Pixar at their weakest, not that weak.
I disagree……there are millions of us "gearheads" out here that appreciated Pixars attention to detail and wordplay that made the "Cars" movie so strong ……in no way was it weak.
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Nothing that Dreamworks has created has staying power.
Sure they can create sequels to Shrek and Ice Age… but do they hold up over time? Do you *really* want to watch any Shrek move again when you can watch any Pixar film again and again and again?
There isn't any comparison.
There's room for Jeffrey Katzenberg's mediocre style and snarky fun… no reason to prevent him from making films. But they will *never* come close much less touch the quality and timeless films of Pixar.
Same here. Kung Fu Panda was decent. I'm also on record here (and elsewhere) not being fully on-board with the glowing Pixar reviews. I didn't like Wall-E at all, and felt that Cars and Ratatouille were dull and soulless. I'm also very less than excited for the planned sequels to both Cars and Monsters, Inc. But compared with the line of stinkers made by Dreamworks, it's definitely a decent list of movies.
I had no idea they were making a John Carter of Mars movie. Pretty cool.
We wasted money on buying Kung-Fu Panda. We tried watching it with our 5 yr old son, but he wouldn't have it. Never finished the movie. To be honest, I'm not that interested in knowing how it came out. But man do we wear the hell out of the Pixar DVDs.
I certainly hope that Katzenberg keeps improving. I hear he plans to make a franchise out of How to Train Your Dragon. I loved the first movie, and I pray his involvment doesn't mean a severe case of sequelitis for the rest of the films.
It's not my favourite but I know lots of people who loved it.
Personally I thought it was half an hour too long.
The thing I really liked about Kung Fu Panda was how respectful it was of the martial arts genre. And it was actually quite funny. Not bad considering Jack Black can be a bit of a hit and miss with me.
All in all a decent homage to Kung Fu films of old.
God save us from the 'hip' and the 'edgy'.
I'm the IT director at a law firm. Basically I do everything related to computers on every level. It's a lot of work for one guy but at least I'm in charge. I would love to be able to telecommute a day or 2 a week but I need to be at the office.
How about you?
I disagree. The government MUST redistribute the movie studios and give them to the people. I have watched movies, I demand the government pay me to make a movie! It will be the tender story of a dog, brought home by it's evil conservative cabal of a family, forced to eat canned food, manufactured by sub minimum wage people from Mexico, returning to their country, the part with the paved roads.
The brilliant dog with a wise slug named Fidel, will break his chains, change his name to Cujo, devour his former family and then have a sex change operation, paid for with Obamas Free Petcare!
I will call the movie… "Let Slip the Hounds of Hope"
And then the government will require everyone to watch my masterpiece!!! I'm heading to the store tomorrow for my beret and tall foldy directors chair. This will be SOOOOO Great!
Any movie that can make a movie about a rat who is a master chef and somehow get me to watch it and have it become one of my favorite movies has to have some kind of mojo going for it.
Of the Pixar movies I have seen, I would say Wall-E was the weakest. It looked good but not much of a story, IMO.
Were they to get the opportunity I would bet every single person in Hollywood would go to Pixar. It's like saying "who the hell would go to Marin County and work for Lucasfilm?!"
It's PIXAR, for goodness sake!
Princess of Mars is one of my favorite books. If Pixar is doing a John Carter of Mars movie, I'll probably see it 3x at the theater before buying it on DVD. (Fun fact: Charlton Heston's real name was John Carter.)
Ahem… who is playing the Princess? She has mighty big er.. shoes to fill….. http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs43/f/2009/139/9/c/Jo...
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Thanks for the article; this explains a lot. The description of "the edge… snappy, adult, on the edge of inappropriate, and not too young" sounds like someone has a distorted view of the word "adult." A movie like that would be geared toward an adolescent wanting a rush, not for people who want a movie with any insight about life.
Uhhhhh, we have sort of a problem here. Yeaaaaah, you apparently didn't put one of the new cover sheets on your TPS reports.
*sips coffee*
Yeaaaaah, if you could go ahead an make sure you do that from now on, that would be greaaaaaat. And uh, I'll make sure you get another copy of that memo, mkay?
I was reading your comment saying that only the hands and feet guys were safe and I thought "that's part of my job – cool!" then I read "And those guys are friggin clueless too.".
LOL. We are mainframe guys who have our job due to some government work that has to stay in state as part of the contract and we do some H&F work which we are not trained for. The Indian guy calls us up and gives us an old grid reference and when we cannot find it asks us to just "look around for it". We tell them there are thousands of servers and to call us back when they know where it is, we they get the correct info we generally just reboot the server which fixes 95% of problems. It's a joy.
Then I read you later comment saying how bad your H&F guys are and I know that we are better then that.
I had to give you a thumbs up for the Office Space reference! Great movie.
Raise your kids on
"the edge… snappy, adult, on the edge of inappropriate, and not too young"
and you get a generation of Lindsay Lohans and Paris Hiltons.
My wife and I decided to start skipping Dreamworks animated films for our daughter after one of the Ice Age sequels included a swear word. That was it, out with the "edgy" more for adults animation. My daughter was never that fond of Shrek. However, the losers that never grew up at work loved it.
Went to see Toy Story 3 this weekend and really liked it. Came close to crying at the end because my youngest is leaving for college next year. But one thing that downright distracted me was the fact that Woody had all of the typical cowboy accoutrements, but his holster was conspicuously empty. I haven't watched the other movies in years. Has there always been a pointed absence of a gun in his holster?
I'm suprised Hayao Miyazaki/Studio Ghibli have never been talked about here. Miyazaki is actually a long-time friend of John Lasseter, who has been responsible for bringing Ghibli movies to the US and localizing them. He even introduces the movies on the DVDs. In Toy Story 3, there is a character from a Miyazaki movie (Totoro from My Neighbor Totoro).
I don't like American animation, though. It always strikes me as being either too childish or only interested in comedy. There isn't much of the depth, variety and seriousness found in Japanese animation.
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I/T architect specialist for a huge nameless, faceless, global corp monster, who shall remain nameless so they can't legally connect my posts to them.
Basically its firewalls, vpns, problem determination, and tons of paper work.
The actual job description has gotten a bit more complicated since my last employer sold our division to their ISP, but its allowing secure inbound and outbound traffic from their intranet to paying customers.
As for telecommuting, have you looked into Citrix? Or possibly even setting up a vpn for secure connectivity. We do it all the time. And if its secure enough for two of the largest telecommunications/computer/service giants, you should at least have ammunition that its secure enough for your office.
I like the idea. You should pass it by Darkwolf, he's in the business.
But I still say the only chance in hell you have of getting it done is to stick with the free market. I've already seen some of the preliminary projects for the proposed new Federal Proper Culture and Thought Agency. And they've got so many projects lined up, you'll never get through to them.
They've got like 45 'Obama is the messiah' projects on the agenda. And that's not even talking about the ones trying to redo Vp Bite-me's reputation as a sane person. And the Kagen projects are just starting to roll in.
If you can work a 'Bush as Hitler' element into it, you might be able to speed it up via the Subcommittee on Bi-Partisanship. Other than that, Tim Robbins, Sean Penn and Oliver Stone have the budget pretty much to themselves for at least the next five years.
Just yesterday at the team status meeting the team lead was saying that 'if you could do that, it'd be great.'
I'm glad I work from home so he didn't see me cringe with disgust. That's exactly what I was thinking, Office Space.
I've never been able to sit through Shrek, simply because Shrek looks more like an alien than an ogre. An ogre with antennae is like a dragon with a duck bill.
When I used to work for my former employer, we had a LAN team on site. Needed something done, give them a call or an instant message, and it got done.
Then our employer sold my entire division to their ISP. They disbanded the LAN team and are making us rely on their existing tech field support, and they are the ones who are clueless. Not to mention they are strong union employees, and as soon as they find out we're non union, everything changes.
We have huge data centers, bigger than two football fields containing hundreds of millions of dollars worth of equipment. So what does my employer do? Takes the guys who know where everything is, lays half off, reassigns the other half, and then says to call an entirely different group who has no idea where anything is, or even what we do.
It is a nightmare.
I don't know, it will make tons of money if for nothing else than the toys that they can make from any new cars introduced. My son loves this movie. I didn't like it the first time I saw it but watching it with my son and seeing his joy has made it grow on me. And I thought it was funnier the next few times I saw it. We have most of the Cars toys here at the house. They have produced really well made die cast cars. The toy marketing of this movie was brilliant.
Oh and my Grandpa loves this movie as well. I think he traveled often as a child along route 66 and lived in desert areas like in the movie. He said the movie made him tear up the first time he saw it.
The worst part of all of that is the manager who organized it would have got a nice fat bonus for saving the company money and "streamlining" the data center operations. That's life.
I put in a Citrix farm about a year ago, and we do have a vpn server but management deemed it essential that I be in the office. I like what I do and to be perfectly honest I'm just happy to be employed…..
I've come across some clueless people in my travels, I bet we could trade some good war stories
It's the buzz words and catch phrases that make we want to start that 3 state killing spree I've been putting off….(since this site's probably being watched I should clarify that was a joke…)
My boss spits those out like a second language, "Ok, so we need to get down to a more granular level when the plumbing's in place to balance our ROI. You know, belt and suspenders…."
Me: "yeah…..uh, what??"
Next time he pulls one of those, put on your most earnest face and ask him "How can we leverage our synergy?"
The same mentality causes them to produce the crappy, R-rated gross-out comedies, and other R-rated movies, instead of good PG or PG-13 movies. Are any of the top 10 highest grossing movies of all time R-rated? (I'm pretty sure none of the top 25 are; yet Hollywood keeps pumping them out; brilliant business people those Hollywood types are)
Remember the girl who played Wolverines love interest in the last movie, Lynn Collins, http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1211488/ . She is the new Dejah Thoris.
I don't work in IT, but I work closely with them, if you want some good laughs about those clueless people, check out this site; http://thedailywtf.com/Default.aspx
After reading some of the articles I just shake my head.
I don't love Pixar. It is all crap. Smell your own farts.
Pixar tells wonderful stories that never loose their charm. I like how they mix in adult stuff into the story so that mom and dad have as much fun as the kids. Its like classic, timeless Disney animation from the early days.
http://rinkworks.com/stupid/ <– The Computer Stupidities page. Lots of fun stories there.
And yeah, I actually have had the "why won't my computer work during this power outage?" call made to me.
I don't understand all the Cars hate I see. It's my 2nd favorite Pixar film, just after The Incredibles.
Yes, he's never had a gun. In the 1st movie, Syd put a match in the empty holster before tossing woody on the grill so they could "have a barbecue" later.
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