Let’s Vote These People Out Of The Cinema
by Joseph LindseyThe vast majority of the open-minded and spiritually-advanced celebrities who roam Hollywood are people who feel enlightened enough to bash and bad mouth only those who don’t think like they do. The entertainment industry and their surrogates feel comfortable enough to make negative public commentary about Christians, Israel, Mormons, Republicans, the brave men and woman of our military, female Governors and anyone who doesn’t feel the world should be like a brothel in Prague.
Tom Hanks came out last week and called people who used their democratic vote, “Un-American,” and in this down economy he’s come up with a way to help you save money with a form of free speech that’s not only silent, but deadly to most entertainers.
Let’s vote these people out of the cinema, off our I-Pods and into a lower tax bracket with our wallets. Money is their god, Al Gore is their Pope, Barack Obama their new star and the Global warming scare is their church. To these people, money talks louder than words. Let’s stop funding the hate speech of people in the entertainment industry who insult Americans and then charge us for it.
Stand up and be heard with a closed wallet. If these people produce it, write it, direct it, act in it or even lend their voice to it, stay away from it.
It’s our rights as consumers to not buy things that are morally broken.
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Jaci – you took the words right out of my mouth.
As a Jew, I still like Mel Gibson, despite his drunken anti-Semitic remarks (for which he humbly apologized).
Don't get me wrong, I love Big Hollywood and the voice it gives Conservative Hollywood. I am also a die-hard Conservative born and raised…
But I am not boycotting entertainers based off of their political leanings. I'd no sooner avoid a flick or album by one of these artists than I would subject myself to Toby Keith's noise just because I agree with his politics.
I like what I like, I enjoy what I enjoy. When it comes time to go to the voting booth, only a blithering idiot would let any celebrity affect their choices anyway, so who cares what their sheltered Hollywood minds think?
"Whether you guys understand this or not, it could be legally problematic for civil rights to be taken away by an up or down vote after they had been legally granted."
Would you then agree that it is problematic — perhaps even more so — for judges to grant "rights" which are not found in any but the most creative, whimsical and arbitrary version of a Constitution?
This is approximately the tenth post on Hanks since he made the offending comments. Wowzer. Nothing like the promise of a blacklist to give a conservative wood.
And just for the record, Joseph, if you boycott every Hollywood writer, director, and actor who thinks differently than you do?
I dunno. Gary Sinese hasn’t made that many movies.
There’s a reason why Ashton Kutcher played the dumb one on “That ’70s Show.” Wouldn’t community service have been more important during the bad, bad Bush years than it will be now that we’re entering the Age of Obama?
As Tammy Bruce says, Dawn of a New Error …
Hey Harley…what ever happened to you leftists being all for dissent? You know being able to disagree without having your motives or patriotism questioned? Now, if you disagree with the Left you’re a bigot, un-American? You’re upset with a call to boycott HanKKK’s movies but are OK with that theatre employee getting run out of a job for voting and supporting Prop 8 and have no prob with the gays asking Redford to boycott Park City and move his festival? Is there no such thing as a principled leftist??? You’re not it…
I appreciate the sentiment, but I don’t think it would really be effective. As many have pointed out, the real god of Hollywood is not money–it’s the approval of their own community. Boycotts just give them the opportunity to claim the red badge of “blacklisting.”
Of course I’ve largely given up going to movies, so I suppose I’m boycotting already.
We vote with our money and don’t see their film and open us up to be lecture too by retards with multi millions. Who are these former blue collar trash who happen to be at the right place at the right time. They make a few films, they are a product no better than a can of pepsi. They make millions and now they are going to tell us how to live, where to lives, how much we must give to the moocher class, while they are all living high off the hog like the Marquis De Evermonde.
If conservatives want to really take this pop culture away from these scumbags, they take all the money you guys have for these movies and buy my film. A no budget that pays tribute to the Vietnam Vets. Support m y nothing film on the food chain with the powerful message and to hell with Tom hanks and these a-holes they are only laughing at us anyways for being conservatives. So here we are giving them OUR hard earn money so they can tell us how to live and pee on us, our families and everything we hold dear. ARE WE NUTS.. You want to throw these bums in the unemployment line, we have the damn POWER…. stop going to see their films and SUPPORT a like mine, that everyone here will agree it is a pro veterans film!
If you don’t, nothing will change NOTHING remember that.
Hey, I’ve got a conference call at the top of the hour…can this site change its Two Minutes of Hate to 45 Seconds of Hate.
We vote with our money and don’t see their film and open us up to be lecture too by retards with multi millions. Who are these former blue collar trash who happen to be at the right place at the right time. They make a few films, they are a product no better than a can of pepsi. They make millions and now they are going to tell us how to live, where to lives, how much we must give to the moocher class, while they are all living high off the hog like the Marquis De Evermonde.
If conservatives want to really take this pop culture away from these scumbags, they take all the money you guys have for these movies and buy my film. A no budget that pays tribute to the Vietnam Vets. Support m y nothing film on the food chain with the powerful message and to hell with Tom hanks and these a-holes they are only laughing at us anyways for being conservatives. So here we are giving them OUR hard earn money so they can tell us how to live and pee on us, our families and everything we hold dear. ARE WE NUTS.. You want to throw these bums in the unemployment line, we have the damn POWER…. stop going to see their films and SUPPORT a like mine, that everyone here will agree it is a pro veterans film!
If you don’t, nothing will change NOTHING remember that.
I refuse to go to movies with any leftist moron starring in it. I watch the greatest films ever made on the TCM channel. Most of the stars of yester-year were Republicans. I attach a quote from Jane Russell:
“I have always been a Republican, and when I was in Hollywood long ago, most of the people there were Republican. The studio heads were all Republican, my boss Howard Hughes was a raving Republican, and we had a motion picture code in those days so they couldn’t do all this naughty stuff. We had John Wayne, we had Charlton Heston, we had man named Ronald Reagan, we had Robert Mitchum, James Stewart, Clark Gable.”
Note all of those actors fought in WWII proudly and bravely.
Today’s actor is over-paid and under-educated.
Rich, you may be confusing me with someone else. I’m against the Prop 8 boycotts, and particularly anything that ‘runs’ someone out of a job. I’ve said that many times before.
I’d also suggest that calling him ‘HanKKKs’ sorta undercuts your argument and makes you look stupid at the same time.
And there’s a difference between dissent and a foot-stamping hissy-fit. JFTR.
You know what’s funny is that Tom Hanks has actually been fairly upfront about his politics for a long time. When was his emotional Oscar speech plea for tolerance after he won for Philadelphia? Oh, that’s right, it was in 1994! It took you 15 years to notice that Hanks isn’t a knuckledragging gaybasher like you clowns are?
You all were too busy wringing your hands about Sean Penn, Tim Robbins, and Susan Sarandon, you must have missed that.
So many boycotts, so little time….
While Hanks’ comments about Mormons were inane, it is interesting to be reminded of how Mormons in the past were suspected of unAmericanism, and for good reason.
If history had unfolded a little differently, we in the west could be citizens of a theocratic country called Deseret right now.
George you might think it’s “a little stupid” but I doubt that Jesus does. I have no doubt that Tom Hanks and Ron Howard are going to PAY and pay dearly for their satanic work. They will receive the same punishment as Hymenaeus and Philetus, who themselves worked hard to “overthrow the faith of some” ( 2Tim 2:18). And I would NEVER EVER allow myself, my children or anyone I even know casually go to a Tom Hanks movie, without telling them what this vile miscreant did to disparage Jesus Christ. So no George, I don’t think it’s a “little stupid”, I think that Tom Hanks is EVIL, a worker in league with his father who is NOT God. I realize that language scares you but it’s true nonetheless. Any many who sets out to prove that Jesus Christ was not divine has sealed his own fate. Because He is. He lives. His Spirit still moves across the waters and one day, He will bring into judgement all the loose talk, the satanic “devils horns” that your MTV generation are so happy to flash whenever a camera’s pointed at them, the liberalism that gloried in the MURDER OF BABIES as a “Right” and your love of Sodomites, ALL will be brought into subjection. Every knee shall bow, and every tongue SHALL confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. But for many of you, it will be too late. (Matt 7:21-23)
Tom Hanks, et al, are entitled to their opinion, whether we agree or not. JL, with all due respect, this is a bit too reminiscent of the whiny pouting of the left for the last 8 years. Opinions can be changed, or modified, by reasoned thoughtful engagement with everyone who can reason and think. Tom Hanks today is Jon Voight tomorrow: thinking people get mugged by reality. I don’t know anyone drawn to the left by the left’s rants or bad behavior: they often drift to it when the lines between left and right blur, and they are offered what seems like a Plan to make it all clear.
If you don’t like their films, fine: it’s not yet “un-American” to choose what we want to watch, or not. But I like to think that the right has the better argument, and if we have the better view and values, how can entertainment hurt us? The Hollywood that puts out politically-correct crap gets what it deserves when middle-America stays away because they resent being lectured or pandered to. Tom Hanks and Ashton Kuchter are sincere, but they’re mistaken. It’s our mission for the next 4 years to engage and convince them, not pout.
You are darn Tootin’ right. This is something used often by those of us who are outraged by the idiots in Hollywood who continually speak and remove all doubt when they bash President Bush or as Hanks has done declare those who voted and passed Prop8 as ‘UnAmerican’.
These people should stick to making movies and keeping their mouths shut. The Dixie Chicks should have learned their lesson but they continued to whine and cry that ‘they’ had been ‘misunderstood’ and how awful it was to get ‘death threats’ and have to explain themselves to fans who no longer attended their concerts or bought their CDs.
Awwww… poor babies.
‘Celebrities’ need to know which side their bread is buttered and boycotting those who offend in any way is a natural outflow of the celebrity. IF you are popular you are ‘boxoffice’ and your movies sell tickets because of your ‘celebrity’. IF you , for some reason or other become ‘boxofficepoison’ and your movies don’t sell tickets if you are in them..then that is the price you pay for doing something outside of entertainment ( or in it) that offends enough of the movie or concert going public to make an impact.
It has ever been so. This is nothing new. Ask Ingrid Bergman about it those long days ago when she got involved with Roberto Rossillini.
These days the left seem to think they are the only ones who can be ‘offended’. The only ones who can talk with their wallets.
Well they are not and never will be. There are at least 58 million and realistically more millions who do not share the adorization of Obama and the disgusting way they bash and villanize a wonderful man and President in President Bush.
As for Tom Hanks, he seems as ignorant of the Constitution as VP Elect Joe Biden.
Tom Hanks now is added to a list of people in Hollywood I used to enjoy and pay to see the movies they made or directed, or bought their DVDs.
No more. My wallet is closed and will remain closed to those who make their ignorance public and offend me. Tom Hanks offends me. Not as a person but by his pronouncements. This shows a level of ignorance that is regularly used to tear down the institutions of the country that are important and essential to the survival of the United States as it was intended by the founding principles.
It is just that simple. There is a line in the sand and many celebrities have crossed it. Consequences.
I’ve been refusing to give any of my hard-earned dollar to any of these left wing hypocrites for years. Maybe my family and I can’t make that much of a difference, but I feel good knowing that I made NO contribution to their wallet.
Response to Harley – Gary Sinise hasn’t made THAT many movies? Well why do you think that is? Crimony, did you miss the whole point of this website?!
George,
For me it not a boycott fantasy, it is a reality. It is my right to spend my money and time on who and what I choose and how dare you call me stupid. Trust me, there is nothing “faux” about my outrage. It is very real and I answer with my wallet. Your comments are no more civilized and no less snarky than the rest, but more hypocritical than most.
Movie stars are just that–movie stars. People who think anything they say has any worth just aren’t using their heads. Most of them aren’t religious–Scientology isn’t really a religion–know nothing about the Bible, don’t understand what it means to believe in God or Jesus, to be Jewish, Christian or Mormon. Most of all, they have no real grasp of what it is like to be living a normal life.
OSWEET- How exactly is it unAmerican for people to want to practice religion their own way. It seems to me that that is exactly why this country was founded.
“Nothing like the promise of a blacklist to give a conservative wood.”
Harley, I think that undercuts your argument as well. How is not wanting to give your money to someone you chose not to support a “blacklist?” No one said they should be barred from work did they? I don’t plan on boycotting Hanks because I think he has done a service to the industry and the nation-as-a-whole. However, my money is mine to do with as I wish (for the most part). I will also probably scrutinize his work more and see if more of this telling people what is “Un-American” gets in to his movies now. I see maybe two movies a year so “boycott(ing) every Hollywood writer, director, and actor who thinks differently than you do?”, wouldn’t be that difficult. I don’t plan to, but it’s not the end of the world for me if I thought it was the right thing to do. Books come to mind.
So, I guess modern conservatives would prefer boycotts and blacklists and faux outrage at every small “offense” than to, say, articulating a positive and forward thinking vision for the country? Instead of actually persuading anyone to either agree with your viewpoint or at least be sympathetic to it, you’re adding singers and actors to your “list” and speak ominously of “consequences” to those who don’t tow your cultural line?
Whatever your opinion of the Dixie Chicks, hurling a death threat is NEVER acceptable, and anyone who receives one has every right to be upset about that.
I’d be careful about invoking the Founding Fathers, after all, their “principles” for the country denied women the right to vote and considered black people to be property.
I’m not a big fan of boycotting individuals, although I’ll probably never be able to sit through another Dixie Chicks song. However, I don’t mind enjoying a movie or song or TV show in which someone with (even outspoken) liberal opinions is involved in if the product is good. I can’t stand the person Tom Cruise has become, but I thought Valkyrie was great. I’d rather boycott a product that carries an intentional message than a good piece of entertainment because of who is involved.
The problem with boycotting a movie because Tom Hanks is in it is that there are many nameless, faceless conservatives or at least right-leaning individuals who work behind the scenes on these movies, as Big Hollywood is making us aware. By boycotting Tom Hanks, we are also indirectly boycotting their work as well.
Harley is not undercutting himself, especially since he said that the Prop 8 boycotts were counterproductive. Whether you guys understand this or not, it could be legally problematic for civil rights to be taken away by an up or down vote after they had been legally granted. By this logic, states could have repealed Brown v. Board of Education with a referendum? Ultimately, gay marriage will be legal in this country, and all the screaming and whining and threats from our friends on the right aren’t going to stop that.
Frankly, in all the sound and fury since Prop 8 passed, not a single conservative has actually demonstrated how they would be personally harmed by gay marriage. Remember, marriage as is legally defined in this country is a CIVIL institution, not a religious one.
JC97! Sinese is working on a very successful television show. (CSI:NY) That, more than anything else, limits his ability to make movies. And no, I didn’t miss the point of the web site. Tho’ Sinese’s career, among others, tends to put the lie to that part of the mission statement.
RYUKYU, you’re right. It’s sloppy on my part to conflate boycotts and blacklists. Tho’ I’m not much more impressed by the boycott idea.
No offense, but what on earth did the Dixie Chicks do that was so heinous that you all are still foaming at the mouth over five years later? So, they didn’t like Bush, so what, many of YOU didn’t like him either.
Pete, we are not still foaming at the mouth over the Dixie Chicks. Natalie chose to voice her opinion of the President while performing OVERSEAS. She didn’t say it in Nashville, Dallas or Kansas City. It’s a shame, too. I actually like their old stuff. They were huge in country music circles. Where are they now?
WSUPRYN said regarding Mormons: “How exactly is it unAmerican for people to want to practice religion their own way. It seems to me that that is exactly why this country was founded.”
As far as the “unAmericanism” practiced by Mormons circa 1900, the polygamy issue wasn’t necessarily the most suspect. Rather, it was the Mormons’ temple ordinances, which required members to vow to exact revenge on the United States for the assassination of Joseph Smith and sundry other misdeeds.
Also at that time Mormon prophets were “receiving” and promulgating revelations that in the future the U.S. government would collapse and Mormon leaders would then rescue it and run it.
Of course, the church and its followers have since executed a complete 180 on stuff like this.
When you release your load after your boycott Tom Hanks wet dream, will you go back to printing articles that have any value whatsoever?
When the majority votes to subject minorities to inferior treatment, then it is un-American. We have a Bill of Rights and long standing Supreme Court precendent in the United States that prevents the majority from making laws that infringe on the rights of minorities — whether they are racial, gender, ethnic, religious, or handicapped. I see no morally acceptable reason that we should allow the majority to persecute the minority when it comes to sexual preference.
And to those who still pretend that sexual preference is a choice, I’d like to point out that religious preference is most definitely a choice and we protect religious minorities from persecution by the majority vote.
“A wise man will not leave the right to the mercy of chance, nor wish it to prevail through the power of the majority. There is but little virtue in the action of masses of men.” — Henry David Thoreau, speaking on the subject of the majority voting on slavery laws.
Tom Hanks opinion is what it is. I disagree with it. But my opinion is what it is, too. And neither of us will change.
What I can do, what I will do, what I have been doing, it staying away from movies with heavy liberal messages, though sometimes they still catch me unaware (Did you see Eagle Eye? Don’t).
Mostly, however, I just avoid them. It isn’t a blacklist or a boycott. I watch movies to be entertained.
That’s their purpose: Entertainment.
And I don’t find obnoxious liberal messages entertaining.
That’s it. That is my decision maker.
If liberal actors want to play in conservative films, I’ll watch them (like Gwyneth Paltrow in the somewhat conservative IronMan). If they want to enter my realm, I’ll pay to watch them. I don’t take strolls through their world anymore.
Why? Because it isn’t entertaining.
And Laura – I TOTALLY agree with you. I am a frequent old-movie watcher. You want to see real acting? Try some Jimmy Stewart on for size.
Actually, the last Dixie Chicks album sold several million copies and won five or six Grammys. In fact, their touring revenue for that record was comparable to what it was before the whole dustup. Frankly, I never cared for their music in any of their incarnations.
So, if they had bagged on the President at a US concert, then they wouldn’t have been subjected to death threats and had their CD’s burned (rhetorically speaking). Let’s take another angle here. If the Dixie Chicks had said in London (gasp, a FOREIGN city) that, say, they were ashamed to be from the same state as Bill Clinton? Would conservatives have said “how dare they say that about our President on foreign soil”. Hell, no. You would have been throwing parades for them.
Freedom of Speech is exactly that. Freedom of Speech. It’s not just “Freedom of Republican-approved speech” or “Freedom of Democratic-approved speech”. By the way, if you honestly believe that a person in Hollywood has lost a job because they were a conservative, then go to court and PROVE it. Employment discrimmination laws cover political discrimmination as well.
Jim P, made the correction and apologia five comments before your own comment. Yes, there’s a difference. As for a Day in the Life of a Liberal?
Sorry. We’re at the Triumphalism Rave all week. Don’t have time for boycotts. The trouble with winning is?
Too many parties to attend.
If we feel we HAVE to see Tom Hanks movies, then we have too much time on our hands.
Boycaught has it right. Hanks is a coward. He dare not say blacks or hespanics are “unAmerican”. I too wrote on this over the weekend. You can see it on my blog at http://www.Politicallyempowered.com if you wish.
http://www.politicallyempowered.com/Blog/tabid/7125/EntryID/1001/Default.aspx
“We had John Wayne, we had Charlton Heston, we had man named Ronald Reagan, we had Robert Mitchum, James Stewart, Clark Gable.”
Note all of those actors fought in WWII proudly and bravely. ”
I have to nitpick here, Laura. John Wayne didn’t serve in WWII. He ultimately decided not to participate because he was already in his mid-thirties, had a family to support and Republic Studios didn’t let him go while still under contract. From what I understand, it bothered him for the rest of his life.
I’m sorry, but marriage is a civil institution. It is recognized foremost by the state. I’m Catholic, but because my wife wasn’t going to convert, we couldn’t get married in a Catholic Church, so we compromised and went Episcopalian. According to Catholic doctrine, my marriage isn’t sanctioned. Does that mean my marriage isn’t legal? Of course not, because the STATE sanctions it.
Again, what you people don’t seem to grasp is that no one is forcing your church to marry two gay people. In fact, absolutely nothing has changed about the status of YOUR marriage if two gay people get married. Nothing.
As for the oft-repeated definition of marriage, do you mean “in order to have kids”? So, should the infertile not be allowed to get married? How about women past their child bearing years. They can’t have more children, so should they be prohibited from getting married under this “definition”?
As for the people who say that gay marriage would allow for pedaphilia, polygomy, marrying the family pet, inanimate objects, etc, you’re forgetting that it would be next to impossible to legally determine such unions were consensual. As for polygomy, that’s in the Old Testament, so you should have no problem.
Unlike Tom Hanks, I have a finite amount of money to spend on things like entertainment. In choosing where to spend that money, things like their public pronouncements may (may) come into play. That’s not a blacklist or a boycott, just me exercising my judgment.
I love 30 Rock and think Fey and Baldwin are hilarious. I can’t stand the sight or sound of Sean Penn. I’m indifferent about Hanks because he hasn’t done anything good in a while in front of the camera. Will this lead me to avoid his next film? Not necessarily, but it sure won’t help.
So, how do you interpret “I’m ashamed that George Bush is from Texas” as “trashing this country or its system of beliefs”. I’m sorry, but what Natalie Maine ACTUALLY SAID in no way warranted how some of you reacted to it. No elected official is immunized from criticism. They’re not royalty, or imperial dictators.
So, tell me, when numerous conservatives strongly condemned Bill Clinton’s military actions in Kosovo, was that dissent a treasonous betrayal of our troops’ mission there? Of course not.
By your Natalie Maine logic, if a performer said something about Barack Obama that was negative, would that be “trashing the country and/or its system of beliefs”? Of course not. That would simply be dissent or a differing opinion. Too many of you conservatives play the victimization card when its convenient, but clearly have no compunctions about demanding that others STRICTLY follow only your line of thought.
Who is Joseph Lindsey?
The problem with Clear Channel’s actions was that its executives had donated heavily to the GOP after the GOP-era deregulation of radio ownership allowed Clear Channel to become a de facto broadcasting monopoly. If one factored in the predominantly right-leaning programming on Clear Channel AM stations, such a politically motivated boycott of an artist’s music was incredibly close to crossing the line. By banning the Dixie Chicks from their stations for reasons other than the quality of their music, Clear Channel was employing a blacklist, which is inherently un-American.
See, if you decide to not see a movie or buy a record because you don’t like the artist for whatever reason, that’s free market. On the other hand, if a theater chain declares that because they don’t care for Tom Hanks’ stand on Prop 8, that his films will be banned, that’s a blacklist.
Real Americans don’t censor. Real Americans don’t blacklist.
OSWEET you sir, are an idiot. The Reed Smoot hearings were a complete sham, and that you try to use it as evidence against the LDS church for being Un-American is as ridiculous as Hanks’ statement. Mormons have always believed that the United States is God’s chosen country, and you can read the writings of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young that show how much they loved the country and the Constitution. They never blamed the United States for what happened to Joseph Smith. The members and leaders of the church loved this country so much that they changed their religious practices to be able to become part of the country again. So I say again, you’re an idiot. Study history.
Interesting.
Tracking shows the same people are posting to all the blogs in defense of these neo-Communist actors.
Somewhere there’s a form letter, telemarketing-style.
The return of the seminar caller?
The boards on this site have proven to be more juvenile than IMDb. Too, they are more filled with idiotic spew than aintitcoolnews. And that’s really saying something.
Keep in mind, I don’t mean this as an insult at all. You guys consistently make my day. Keep up the good (bad) work!
Sincerely yours,
–Hunter D.
The point about gay marriage is to get the civil benefits. The ability to visit your partner in the hospital. The ability to have your partner on your insurance policies. Some of the tax benefits. The thing I truly don’t understand about the anti-gay marriage argument is literally no one has produced a single rational piece of evidence that would demonstrate that their straight marriage would at all be affected. I find some of this semantics argument about marriage/civil unions to be a useless exercise.
As for the polygomy fears, there are two very compelling arguments against it that are completely unrelated to gay marriage. One, is the issue of consent. The Warren Jeffs of the world don’t do their cause a lick of good by forcing underage girls into polygomous unions. The fact that every polygomous union seems to be one man many women can make a person really question just how consensual the arrangement is. In a more practical fashion, the issues of benefits like alimony, property rights, custody, estate laws, powers of attorney, divorce would be thrown into chaos if one had legally sanctioned multiple marriage. On the other hand, a gay couple of two men and two women wouldn’t require divorce and/or spousal support laws to be drastically rewritten.
If anything, child custody judgements might be finally reformed if gay marriage were legal. Under the current inequitable system, the mother of the child is almost ALWAYS granted primary custody of the child, no matter what circumstances. If both straight AND gay marriage were sanctioned, then child custody judgements would become more fair.
Because they are liberals is why “the good movie parts” go to people like Tom Hanks. Most of the movies made today are big fat ZEROs and depend on plastic looking people who have plastic values on screen and off.
We, too, watch the oldies – we did not realize that the majority of the actors/actresses were Republicans or fought in the war, we just saw real people in great movies.
George, on one hand you seem to say that you don’t believe that people “choose to be gay” and seem to be rather sympathetic to the experiences of your gay friends, but then you still can’t help yourself from seeming to equate being gay to being a child molester. That’s not an intellectually compatible set of opinions.
Frankly, if I turn on MTV, the portrait it paints of straight people isn’t very flattering if you think about it. Should straight people be discrimminated against because some of them make me uncomfortable? Of course not.
No one is being bullied. The consensus for gay marriage is coming.
==Let’s Vote These People Out Of The Cinema==
That’s the easy part: Don’t go to their movies and don’t buy the stuff advertized during their teevee showing. Plus, when asked, say you don’t watch them.
If we all do this, the message will be clear.
==The point about gay marriage is to get the civil benefits.==
A man who claims to be homosexual may, right now, marry a woman who claims to be homosexual. They get the benefits.
== The ability to visit your partner in the hospital.==
They who have the paperwork are not stopped from doing so now.
== The ability to have your partner on your insurance policies.==
You may put anybody on your insurance polisies.
== Some of the tax benefits.==
You choice not to marry is what stops that.
== The thing I truly don’t understand about the anti-gay marriage argument is literally no one has produced a single rational piece of evidence that would demonstrate that their straight marriage would at all be affected.==
No argument that you’ll accept, that’s why you think that. You have precluded yourself from accepting an argument.
== I find some of this semantics argument about marriage/civil unions to be a useless exercise.==
Translation: “Any argument that doesn’t agree with mime is a useless exercise.”
==As for the polygomy fears, there are two very compelling arguments against it that are completely unrelated to gay marriage. One, is the issue of consent.==
If people consented, you would have no prob.
==…a gay couple of two men and two women wouldn’t require divorce and/or spousal support laws to be drastically rewritten.==
Who is the husband and who is the wife in the so-called “same-sex ‘marriage’”?
===If anything, child custody judgements might be finally reformed if gay marriage were legal.==
“Gay marriage” is already legal. A man who claims to be homosexual may marry a woman who claims to be homosexual right now!
I know I posted this in another comment!
Kid Rock and others can kiss my Red White and Blue Ass! They all make me sick. I am sick of all this crap too. Jan 20 I am wearing Black mourning of America! I will be watchin President Ronald Reagan Video, war movies.
Lincoln, if he were alive today, he would be ANGRY and would raise hell!
He would say, to the Americans that voted for this marxist. How DARE YOU Vote for this guy, I didnt become President so this guy can take over who is a marxist who is socialist, I ended Slavery, I wanted America to be land of the free, home of the Brave not have this empty suit eat what I ate, ride the train as I did. You are un American for voting for this guy. How dare you ruin what I have tried to do what I did do. he also would say RIP America! or something like that. He would make sure no train would take him he would make sure the bible he sworn on wouldnt be sworn on. Lincoln would raise hell. Lincoln would also get a restraining order against obama as a stalker!
Our heroes that fought since civil war WW1 WW 2 Korea, our fallen heroes are rolling in their graves a million times over. they fought to protect America! they fought so marxist, socialist like that one doesnt become president to ruin their country of which thety shed blood and tears doing! driving and seeing biden obama stickers they are all UnAmerican they showed their true colors deeper than words can say! they never wanted freedom, they hated President Reagan and President Bush for everything. they never cared about 9/11 never, it was all fake tears that they shed. while most of us shed tears still shed tears for the Americans that were massacred on that fateful day!
Those obama crack smokers dont knwo what they got us into. I will take what Rush Limbaugh said and say it myself. I hope he fails!!!! He will fail! he wants doom and gloom he is enjoying this every minute of it. all these terrorists are hailing him as their hero, they wanted to bring America down, they couldnt, now they will enjoy watching obama bring America down financially and ending this war. SHAME ON YOU OBAMA SUPPORTERS!! I will forever be in favor of this war that President Bush got us into. He believed in the Iraqi people! they needed to be liberated from that dictator saddam. obama wants to give 2 billion dollars to terrorists to teach schools how to love us, it was on his website they tok it down, wiped it clean when word got out on rush limbaughs show. WE KNOW what obama will do. why should I support this marxist I WILL NOT!
Actually, the Dixie Chicks had to cancel a number of scheduled concerts due to poor ticket sales, and some that were scheduled to go onsale in a week or two were canceled altogether. There was a show scheduled here in Milwaukee at The Bradley Center and it was scrapped and never rescheduled. Here’s an article from USA Today in 2006….
Dixie Chicks’ concert sales fail to take wing
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While the Dixie Chicks roost atop the album-sales charts for a second week, plans for the trio’s North American Accidents & Accusations Tour, set to begin July 21 in Detroit, suddenly are up in the air.
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While the Dixie Chicks roost atop the album-sales charts for a second week, plans for the trio’s North American Accidents & Accusations Tour, set to begin July 21 in Detroit, suddenly are up in the air.
By Brian Mansfield, Special for USA TODAY
Buying a Dixie Chicks CD, that’s one thing. Buying a concert ticket, that’s another matter — at least in some places.
While the Dixie Chicks roost atop the album-sales charts for a second week, plans for the trio’s North American Accidents & Accusations Tour, set to begin July 21 in Detroit, suddenly are up in the air. “There is a reshuffling of the tour based on market sales,” spokeswoman Kathy Best says.
Shows announced for St. Louis, Oklahoma City, Indianapolis and Memphis have been pulled from the schedule. The public on-sale date for a September show in Houston has been canceled as well.
A message on the website for St. Louis’ Savvis Center reads, “Due to the overwhelming demand for the Dixie Chicks in Canada, England and Australia, this concert date must be rerouted and the on-sale date will be postponed until the fall.”
Sales for fall shows are strong in Canada, where the band hasn’t been subjected to a three-year political firestorm and a battle with onetime fans. A concert at Toronto’s 19,000-seat Air Canada Center sold out in eight minutes, prompting the addition of a second date.
Not every U.S. show is having trouble selling: The best available pair of tickets Thursday to the August 18 Minneapolis show were for limited-view, upper-level seats. But demand isn’t coming close to the Chicks’ 2003 tour, which sold more than 860,000 tickets in its first weekend and ultimately earned $62 million, the year’s top-grossing country tour.
The band’s new album continues to sell well. After selling 526,000 units its first week out, Taking the Long Way sold 271,000 copies last week.
The “reshuffling” on the Chicks’ tour hasn’t been finished. Neither the Chicks’ manager, Simon Renshaw, nor their booking agent, Rob Light, could be reached for comment. Short of postponing the entire U.S. tour, the group could choose to leave some cities off the tour, move underperforming dates to smaller venues or reconfigure seating at arenas to theater-like settings.
“A couple years ago, Mariah Carey announced a big arena tour, and it didn’t (sell) very well,” Billboard’s Ray Waddell says. “The next thing you know, she wanted to provide an ‘intimate experience’ in theaters.”
Posted 6/8/2006 9:22 PM ET
I have a list I called “Won’t give them the Sweat Off My Ba–s. Hanks is now Valedictorian. When conservatives wake up and understand they are like Dorothy with the ruby slippers, and have the power to break Hollywood, or a network, or a producer, or an “artist”, then all this will change. Start with GE, who owns NBC and MSNBC. See how long the suits put up with Olberman when they are bleeding red ink.
I like Tom but I think he is way out of line on this issue.
Wake up tom, please.
==I have a problem with the “choosing to be gay” argument.==
So what?
== First of all, it hasn’t been proven [sic] one way or another as to genetics.==
The burden is on those who say it is genetic. It oughta be easy, if the homogene is there. It isn’t easy cuz it ain’t there, and that squares with the fact that God did not make anybody homosexual. they made themselves homosexual by choosing the homosexual, alternative-lifestyle orientation option.
== Second, if you feel urges, it is a CHOICE to act on them.==
I have an urge not to go and see a Tom Hanks movie. I choose to act on that urge. God did not create me with that urge. Thank you.
== Whether or not the urges are genetically passed on, you choose to act upon them and live a gay lifestyle. Thus, your decision to be in the minority in no way gives me a reason to accept and sanction it.==
That is correct, except that I can’t sit on the fence about the genetics, or, in this case, the lack of genetics. Homogenetics is a fiction.
==…it could be legally problematic for civil rights to be taken away by an up or down vote after they had been legally granted.==
Rights that were never there cannot be taken away.
In this case, nobody had the Right to marry of the same sex. So, there was no Right to take away.
The People of the State of California voted to solidify the definition of “marriage.” The People did not take anything away that was there before the vote.
The People, according to the state constitution, have the say-so over the Court’s ruling. They said so, and they said YES to 8.
Since the state constitution gives that jurisdiction to the People, the Court may not come along and overrule/override that. We won, and those who claim to be homosexual lost. Get over it.
I refuse to go to mainstream movies or buy them now. It is tiresome to see the anti-American themes in them. (There always seems to be some idiot in a Che shirt in every one of them lately too.)
Now I am only buying from independent filmmakers who love this country and those who protect it. I recently purchased a film by Jack Marino called “Forgotten Heroes”. It was made to show honor, respect, and thanks to our Vietnam Veterans. It delivered bigtime. The characters are so memorable and engaging through the whole film. It brought me back in time immediately. I watched it many times. I have had enough of the bashing and twisting of our young men and women who serve this country. I am thankful to have been able to see a film that did not show our troops as the left always portrays them. What they did to our Vietnam Veterans can never happen again. Forgotten Heroes is a film that shows them the honor and respect they deserve. I hope many people will show support and buy this film for them.
We must support the independent filmmakers like Jack Marino if we want to have any impact on what Hollyweird is producing.
I haven’t gone to a flick in such a long time that I cannot remember the last time. Except “The Passion.”
Hang in there and boycott these idiot, bigmouth, know-it-all, “my
’stuff’ don’t stink,” Lib actors and actresses and their work . Don’t give them respect they don’t deserve. Don’t reward them for their foolishness and ungodliness. The more who boycott, the more powerful the message. Don’t give them an inch!
Mr. Incredible is correct-the so-called “right” to marry whomever one chooses is not a right, but a privilege. The people of CA voted, which is democracy in action. The outrage from the morons in Hollywood and other equally intelligent groups reeks of hypocrisy. I didn’t vote for abortion rights back in ‘73, because that decision was not decided democratically by the populace. Where’s Tom Hanks’s outrage over that un-American and unconstitutional ruling? On a different note, anyone who wants to build their self-esteem should look up “spiritual side of Hollywood” on youtube and watch as various celebrities ponder what God means to them. Hint: Only the much-reviled Mel Gibson gets it right.
Why is it so hard for people to understand this.
1. We don’t want the institution of marriage changed from its original meaning as defined by thousands of years of human civilization
2. We are tired of the sexualization of everything and sexual and gender politics.
3. There is such a thing as morality and people get to vote their conscious.
Tom Hanks has forgotten who made him a star..lets UnStar him
No advice needed on that one; I was already crossing him off my list of first-run actors. He’s not the worst of them, but he’s also not the first. He should know that he is offending more than half his audience by making his intolerant comments.
I will just buy the DVD used so no one gets any royalties from me. And to think he is working on the follow-up of Band of Brothers! I thought that those brothers fought for freedom!? What is freedom if we cannot vote and speak our mind and keep the government from overturning our legally voted laws?
Ahh, Carolyn. You can’t really pound the “living in mom’s basement” joke enough, particularly if you can mix in a little ‘wet your jammies’ humor. It’s almost like being witty. (Just what the site needs, a second-rate Ann Coulter.)
That’s it? Cripes, girl. Your double-wide would fit in my basement and there’d still be room for wine.
As to the subject of Gay marriage, there have been other consequences. In Mass. and other states that have recognized gay marriage, there has been a rash of lawsuits against anyone and everything that doesn’t acquiese to the rights of gays. Note e-harmony. There just wasn’t any other site on earth for gays to go and meet other gays interested in marriage. Catholic charities had to stop providing adoption or go against the Catholic religions practices and statutes. Photographers, justice of the peace, even parents in the school systems have been the object of these suits. If we look only at the right to be married, we are missing the bigger intentions. There is an excellent video by Evan Sayet at the Heritage Foundation that explains liberalism. Its the uncontrollable desire to equalize the so called playing field for anything goes. To do this, they have to denigrate anything might be thought of as good, fair, right, or any discriminating thought one might have about a subject and elevate the opposite to be the victim. Ergo Israel is the bad guy and Hamas is the victim. That kind of thinking. Tear down the Mormons (black evangelicals and moslems are already elevated to the position of victim)elevate gay activists to victim.
I don’t like “Tom Hanks” – he gets on my nerves, because so many people in Hollywood like him – the guy won two Oscars for best actor, consecutively, for Christ sakes. I just don’t trust someone who tries so hard, that it’s become practically effortless for him to make friends. I also can’t stand “Will Smith”, he and Tom Hanks make me want to vomit. Life is just too easy for these guys, because they know how to charm people’s ass off. Hanks and Smith has got to come down and live like the rest of us hard working people. Starting tomorrow, do not buy their products, movies, or anything they are selling, they will just use it to become more popular. Only you can stop them before they make more friends.
I am a libertarian. I tend agree with republicans on economic and foreign policy, and with the democrats on social issues. I do not feel that merely being a celebrity qualifies them to cram their viewpoints down the throats of normal people. It is a huge turnoff to me when they do this; so I try to ignore it. Once a celebrity does it several times, or especially vocally, then I no longer enjoy their movies/songs/etc. I am afraid Tom Hanks has turned this corner. If he stars in a truly great movie, then I will likely overcome this negative feeling, especially if this is his only stupid remark. Though the compromise would be with Netflix. I doubt I ever muster up enough enthusiasm to see him in the theater.
I do not really consider the way I am reacting to be a boycott; it is more of a “they ruined the magic” experience. Regardless of what it is called, I think it has value. If a significant portion of the public finds the actions or words of a celebrity to be disagreeable, then there should be negative consequences.
I will end by repeating the sentiments of several other posts. Tom Hanks has a right to say what he wants. I have a right to think he is a hypocrite and to avoid his movies.
Hi Sandy, WOW this was a nice surprise to mentioned my film. You are the first person that doesn’t know me that bought the film and posted your positive views on FORGOTTEN HEROES. This was a nice surprise, thank you for telling it to everyone on here.
@Laura
"Note all of those actors fought in WWII proudly and bravely."
Your history is wanting, Laura. Neither Reagan nor Wayne nor Mitchum fought in WWII. Reagan was in the Army, but I'm pretty sure the First Motion Picture Unit never came under fire. Stewart certainly saw combat, but then so did his best friend and committed leftist Henry Fonda. Maybe you should spend less time at TCM and more in the library.
Americanchick:
You sound like an absolute moron. Too bad you hate your country so much.
V the K:
I’m sure Hanks would. So would I.
Say what you want about Hanks…a lot of people were offended during the primary and the GE by the Hollywood so called actors. So much so that they have stopped buying tickets, DVD’s etc…The people saw it was the media and Hollywood picking our president…. deceiving people, not printing the truth or sweeping it under the rug…The NYT had to go to Mexico to get funds to stay afloat…. it is not the economy hurting all these papers that are having trouble….it is the untruths and the misleading articles that they put out there…People don’t trust them anymore… and they shouldn’t. AP lied to the people…it is all of them….why do you think I am not a dem any more?…I didn’t fall for it…I saw they were misleading the people and looked for the truth myself….Yes I believed them for years and I hate to say I believed the lies about Bush…The truth is out there but a person has to want to know it…Democrats are spoon fed what the party wants them to believe….if people would pay attention to what they say and watch how they vote they would see that they are being lied to…I woke up and there are a lot of people out there like me, we see now that we were being duped by the dem party…I have gotten through the “How could I have been so stupid” stage…from my past experience I would say that the dems are the party who inspire hate….they lie and mislead people against the Rep’s and they fall for it hook line and sinker…Remember FISA? what did they say and how did they vote?…I can’t tell you how many times I would start to say something about a republican and I would stop myself and say…was that true or just something they said to get the voters angry to get them out to vote?…I have done so much research…The republicans really need to learn to stand up and speak out when the Dems are doing this….of course the dems do have the media on there side but they still need to fight this kind of thing…Who do I trust in Washington now? No one. I really hate to see Bush go. And I wouldn’t worry about Obama doing much of what he has promised, it was just to get votes. I do think the dems want to move our country towards socialism…Just watch Pelosi and the gang…
I have not supported these Un-Americans for some time. Whenever a celebrity gives comfort to our enemies they are off my and my families list. If more people do this than maybe we can effect a change in the crap we have to listen to from these idiots. I loved Tom Hanks. Too bad, but he made it to my list.
Hanks has always been a bit of a joke to me because I remember the sitcom Busom Buddies. He walked around in drag with his co-star Peter Scolari. I always liked Scolari better anyway. Hanks is a douche and probably dresses in drag for fun. Hey we’re finding out all kinds of things about Travolta, Hanks is next.
Tom Hanks seems to have overlooked a few little details in his empty headed rant. Latinos and Blacks also voted heavily against gay marriage. I guess he’s not as stupid as he sounds. If he’d lashed out at blacks and latinos he’d be in deep kimchi. Picking Mormons is easy and they make a soft target. I guess the lad is the true bigot, since he has essentially called the majority of California voters un American, but chose to take the easy route and use Mormons as his scapegoat.
The hollywood libtards have never quite understood that we live in a representative republic…at least for now. These folks can afford to be socialists…they’ve got the money…so they attempt to change the country into a socialist utopia where the citizens no longer have a say in their governance, or the right to free speech…only the elites will have those rights. Tom Hanks is entitled to his opinion…he should extend that courtesy to the majority that voted in California, and voted against gay marriage.
==I have not seen a Tom Hanks movie since Castaway and will never see another.==
I won’t pay to see him, nor any other arrogant, Godless, Hollywood Lib. Deprive them of money and see where THAT gets’em.
That’s not even Chris Brown! Damn TMZ staff is dumb.
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