Listening To Annie Lennox’s Gaza Commentary is Like Walking on Broken Glass
by James KirchickLast week, former Eurthymics songstress Annie Lennox wrote about the “pornography of destruction” waged by Israel against the Palestinian civilians of the Gaza Strip. Outraged, she did what any other socially-concerned celebrity would do: call a press conference.
On the verge of tears, Lennox told the media how, a few days after Christmas, she turned on the telly to see that Gaza was in flames (the years of Hamas rocket-fire into southern Israel that precipitated the airstrikes apparently escaped her analysis). “As a Mother, how is this going to be the solution to peace?” she plaintively asked. At her side were the Sandinista-loving Bianca Jagger, the radical Islamist sheik-loving ex-Mayor of London Ken Livingstone, and George Galloway, the Member of Parliament who called on British troops deployed in Iraq to disobey orders and desert. “There has to be a place where people come to the table,” Lennox pleaded.
Of course, Israel has been at the proverbial table for years, trying to hammer out a peace agreement with the legitimate representative of the Palestinian people, the Palestinian Authority. It’s Hamas that wants to turn that table upside down, throwing platters of hummus and falafel all over the room. Here’s what happened before Annie turned on the television: In 2005, Israel unilaterally withdrew from the Gaza Strip, forcibly removing its settlers and uprooting military outposts. Immediately after the withdrawal, Hamas began firing rockets indiscriminately into bordering Israeli territory. In 2007, Hamas violently took control from the ruling Fatah party by murdering its way to power. In June of this year, Israel and Hamas agreed to a cease-fire brokered by the Egyptian government, but Hamas broke that agreement (as it always does) when it re-commenced rocket fire last month. But to truly grasp what Israel is up against, we ought to go back further, to the signing of the Hamas Covenant in 1988, which states that the group’s “struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious,” repeatedly cites Koranic justification for the murder of Jews and declares it “compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised.”
On Saturday, Lennox spoke at a rally full of open Hamas and Hezbollah supporters who marched on the Israeli embassy throwing rocks and glass bottles at riot police. If Lennox, “as a Mother,” genuinely believes in peace, why does she speak at a rally organized by acknowledged supporters of organizations that inculcate hatred of Jews in Muslim children and teach them the virtue of suicide-terrorism?
Unlike her compadres Jagger, Galloway and Livingstone, who all have notorious histories of Communist fellow-traveling, Lennox is not known for far-left or anti-Israel posturing. Indeed, her political activism has thus far mostly consisted of feel-good stuff like singing at the Live 8 concert and generally raising awareness about global poverty. So one wonders what prompts her currnet, passionate antipathy towards Israel. Maybe it’s something as petty as the 2000 break-up with her Israeli husband, Uri Fruchtmann? I love Lennox’s music too much to want to dwell on her obnoxious polemics, but this newfound activism perfectly encapsulates how for so many critics of Israel — and not just celebrities, either — Middle Eastern history always begins with the latest alleged Israeli transgression.






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welcome to the world, big hollywood!
It does seem that Lennox is happy to be a useful idiot for the kill the Jews crowd that’s well-represented by the celebrity culture. Unfortunately, people like Lennox are so ill read and so ignorant of historical context, they are easy prey. Sad that such chuckleheads are always good for a by-line.
“‘As a Mother, how is this going to be the solution to peace?’ she plaintively asked.”
Annie, what does that even mean? Perhaps Annie should sit at a table with Masab Yousuf, son of West Bank Hamas leader Sheik Hassan Yousef and discuss this further. I’m sure he could enlighten her with the unfiltered truth about this band of hate-filled thugs.
The lack of support for Israel is rather depressing. Even more so by celebrities. I’m sorry but I enjoy watching those rocket firing jerks getting their neighborhood blown to pieces. If they want peace(which clearly they don’t) they should stop terrorizing the people of Israel with constant rocket fire.
How is peace ever supposed to be possible in the Middle East when one side (the Palestinians) refuses to negotiate in good faith, breaks every cease fire ever put in place, and teaches it’s children (in their history and geography books) that the all of Israel is actually Palestine and belongs to them completely. That is no starting point for peace. And then you have these idiot people that want back in the spotlight that come out and blame it all on Israel- who is just trying to protect itself. Yes, Israel is lobbing missiles, bombs, and tanks at Palestinian targets- but they were provoked into it by 3 years of rocket attacks (far more than just about any other country would put up with- just think if Canada started bombing San Antonio or Houston- how long would it take for us to retaliate?) and even now Israel is painstaking in it’s attention to where the bombs fall and the missiles strike- trying with all it can to limit civilian casualties. It’s not Israel’s fault that Hamas delights in building a terrorist operation next to a school or hospital. I think that those celebrity wannabes that are coming out of the woodwork to denounce Israel are just the modern form of anti-Semites. They can’t abide by the fact that Israel has it’s own nation that it is willing to protect at all cost.
Wow, they sure do look impotent.
Very typical bleeding-heart liberal. Ignore what went on before, but pick up on what you see at the moment. We won’t hold her breath until she says something about the rocket fire.
Do Jagger and Lennox know that under Hamas and their Iranian sponsors they would have to cover themselves just to go out? Now, maybe more people would be able to stand a Lennox concert if she were covered from head to toe but I would prefer just to keep my money to myself and not support her.
Let them live for a year in Iran and see if they feel the same way about the parties in the ME.
Another brain-dead entertainer, trying to make their empty lives mean something by working for a “cause,” mouthing the same old received and dreary leftist moral equivalence and Antisemitism. Why should we pay attention to and, more importantly, give any credence to, the untutored views of often drug-addled, ill-informed, and usually troubled, semi-literate entertainers—many of whom never graduated from college, or even finished high school, for that matter–on any of the major political, moral, strategic or foreign affairs issues of the day?
Knowing how to write a lyric, play a guitar, write or read a script, compose a picture, dance, or sing a song does not magically confer a detailed knowledge of history and its lessons, nor deep and instant wisdom on foreign affairs and military policy. Cocktail conversation is not knowledge, and accolades for their acumen coming from fellow dolts means nothing, but Hollywood entertainers—part of the vast Hollywood circle jerk–have convinced themselves that they have knowledge, wisdom and moral vision far beyond that of the mere mortals who pay to see them and have often made them rich. Having become rich—they obviously think—must be a sign that they have superior knowledge and acumen.
Their high self-estimation of their knowledge of the issues, and their similarly high self-estimation of their superior vision and moral stature (and their resultant preening and self-congratulation—check out the Golden Globe, Oscar or Emmy awards sometime) is a joke, one which only our giving their pronouncements and “positions” any credence at all, allows them to get away with.
It truly blows me away that people like Annie Lennox can spread all these tears and sadness for the Palestinian people but she says absolutely nothing about the missle attacks on Israel. Where are the tears? Where is the outrage? Where is the songs, poems, and articles written in defense of the Jewish nation. I simply do not get it.
Dink squad. Ignore, ignore – it’s a DISTRACTION!
Hey, I think I’m gettin’ the hang of these Obamatics…
>>>“pornography of destruction”
The use of the word “pornographic” for things not related to pornography (as we know it) has become rather in vogue amongst the groupthinking Left these days. Has anybody else noticed that? It’s like they’re all taking the same classes at the same schools and walking out with the same lingo.
Why is it so many people do not see the whole picture? Do not bother to know history? and simply jump on a bandwagon and spew crap? I will be honest.. once I thought that there was hope that peace could be found between Palestine and Israel.. until I watched “To Die in Jerusalem”. The mindset of the Palestinian mother shocked me and woke me up. They do not want peace. We are not just fighting weapons we are fighting a mindset. And the constant attacks can no longer go unanswered. Israel has every right to protect itself. I read http://www.israellycool.com/ and I get more insight for a blogger than anyone can from the evening news. The IDF is not attacking randomly, they are surgically targeting.
All of the questions that you are asking are the same ones that I ask.
Where is Annie for when the suicide bombers blow up buses with civilians, or sidewalk cafe’s. Nowhere.. the silence from Ms. Lennox and others of her ilk are deafening.
I am far more afraid for her children, and others like them, that have parents with such moral issues. More concerned with worshiping the god of
“global warming”, and support of terrorist organizations and crime, than teaching real moral values.
Hurray to Israel for finally defending themselves. I hope they continue.
The romanticism that has enslaved modern thought has caused more detriment than not. The concept that a feel-good mentality will change the world is not a new one – and as in times past it is failing. Diplomacy only functions when both sides of the table are after the same goal. This is why the French where such masters at abusing it. Modern diplomacy is nothing more than the attempt by the aggressor to exploit the naivete of the victim. World War 2 is a very real, and very modern, example of this strategy.
Reality check: It’s a *valid* wartime strategy.
Hamas has repeatedly sought “truces’ which amounted to nothing more than just lulls to stockpile ammunition, compile intelligence, and try to create a false sense of accomplishment with the hopes of putting Israel in a state of ease that would facilitate their aggression. Thankfully, Israel has been faster on the eye than the rest of the world.
We need to realize that there is a real difference between seeking peace that benefits both sides and seeking a peace in which one gets what one wants, as are the wants of a spoiled child, at the loss of the other. How can you have peace when the other side of the table wants destruction?
Noelie:
Annie and her ilk are always silent when Hamas shoots a rocket into Sderot, each of which is a war crime.
Consistency from a moral compass is an unknown trait from people that are defending Hamas.
Who’s the Bin Laden lookalike, standing next to the hatchet-faced non-babe?
I think Lennox’s statement is important. Not for the usual Leftist idiocy but as an indicator of the culture of the West.
We live in a Science Fiction World. The Pill, the Condom, the rising status and income of Women, and urban anonymous living have shaped society to radically different ways that the politics (Obama as Oprahesque Shaman in Chief) and Culture indicate.
PRECISELY because Lennox is a single mother, what she has to say and her preferred way of saying it, is important.
Simply put, the female orientation, so profound and deep, makes emotion, reflexive sympathy for the “hard” male-oriented societies, particularly polygamist societies, a given. Israel, being a nation of still, Western oriented, monogamist and modern peoples will NEVER get the backing or sympathy of a female-dominated society or culture.
Female dominated cultures want to FEEL not think. They back any anti-Western group, and the more loathesome and more anti-Women, the more they back them. Female dominated cultures assume that the power and dominance of the West in the Past is a given, that nuclear weapons (see Dianne Feinstein’s WSJ editorial over the weekend) exist only in the US and Russia, and that the West must set a “moral example” …
Because women in a female dominated society assume that the other cultures work the same way as the Culture of Oprah.
Lennox just assumes that with the proper ostracism or Mean Girl attitude, the Israeli-Hamas-Iranian-AQ conflict can be brought in line. This is Oprah’s and Obama’s attitude as well. Single women, btw, voted Obama 70-29 and were his decisive margin of victory.
This is not going to change any time soon. Hamas’s chief had four wives, a feature that Western women find fascinating (think “Big Love”) and sympathetic.
Most commentators find a disconnect — women don’t criticize polygamist Hamas and do criticize monogamous Israel. It is precisely because of that Polygamy (women love it, particularly in theory not practice and “over there”) that women in the West by the majority (there are of course dissenters) support Hamas. Lennox is the rule not the exception.
In Australia there is a proposal to ban topless sunbathing in beaches because Muslim men are offended. Women’s groups support the ban. This ought to tell you how the politics and culture works. Women always support any non-Western, male oriented, dominating and aggressive culture.
This is radically different than in the recent past (pre-1965) and it’s why a lot of commenters don’t “get” Western culture now. But just watch Oprah. You’ll understand why Lennox feels as she feels.
Oh, is that Galloway in the picture? Didn’t recognize the esteemed member of Parliament without that red leotard he wore on ‘Celebrity Big Brother’. And goodness, Bianca’s put on weight these last few years. Swallowing leftist rhetoric must do that to your hips.
Okay, snark off. Who ARE these jerks?
Because they are definitely weird. I mean – there is something VERY strange about them. For instance, they only notice a certain kind of blood. And it’s NOT the kind of blood that reeks from the morgues of Israel. No, these jerks don’t notice that blood at all. Even if there’s a river of it from bombed buses, cafes, schools, hospitals, etc. Nope, don’t smell a thing. And they don’t smell bombs either. You know, the ones Hamas shoots at Israeli towns, roads, schools, hospitals, nurseries, etc. The smoke, the cinders, the gore from those bombs – sniff? Nope, don’t smell a thing. And they don’t hear so good either. You know, the roar of bombs exploding buses, the screams of the victims as they burn alive in those buses or thrash on the floor of the cafes because a Palestinian bomb has just blown off their arm or their leg or both, the shrieks of mothers burying 10 month old daughters or 21 year old sons. Nope, those jerks don’t hear a thing.
But damn, those jerks immediately spring to life, jump in front of cameras, demand press conferences, pose for cameras the instant a single bomb falls on Hamas which did all of the atrocities outlined above. Weird.
Like I said, who ARE these jerks?
Yeah! Why are these people so concerned about the oppressed when they should be sympathizing with the oppressors!
Anyone remember Vanessa Redgraves rants on 60 Minutes? I do. Thats what this is. No clue, no idea at all of the realities. The fact that the Arabs should be the ones to ask for peace as it is in their hands does not matter. That would be reality. Reality and the Lennox/Galloway/Livingston cabal do not mesh. Not even close.
1) what everyone else said: YES!
2) Annie, shut up and sing.
Hey I never liked her music anyway so ignoring her and her ridiculous rants is no hardship. I mean it was tough enough exiling the Dixie Chicks(who would have thought 3 girls from Texas could be so ridiculousy stupid) but Lennox? Yawn. Its just entertaining seeing her say this stuff and expect people to take her seriously.
Well except for Doom, who apparently thinks he/she/it is being clever. Did you just wake up today and think history started when you decided to take notice? Go back to bed. The world will go on without you, ‘doom.’
Sure, Gaza is an overpopulated ghetto, run by a criminal organization that is incapable of delivering the basic civil services it was elected to do and which instead fires rockets from amidst a dense population of human shields. I get all that, and I get why Hamas won in elections we rushed the PA to hold, because everyone knew what crooks Fatah are. These facts and the willful neglect of Gaza by Egypt are all well-known and understood. Still, would you bomb east Los Angeles just to root out some gangsters? Would that be a responsible approach?
While looking at the pictures of shredded children is nauseating, what’s shameful is the lack of will in the media to portray outrage in the various other places where civilians are used as human shields or accidentally killed by combatants…
It’s only when Americans or Jews kill civilians – while fighting combatants using them as human shields- that the Western media raises its anti-Semitic ire. The Islamo-fascists know how to play the Western Media like a harp.
If 400 Palestinians killed for every Israeli dead isn’t proportionate enough to prevent future Palestinian missile attacks, then Israel should increase their violence.
Heck the US leveled two countries for a single terrorist attack… and it worked. No more attacks on US soil. Israel can learn from that.
Moral idiocy yet again.
Whiskey has a point. If you want to understand why Europeans, Americans, Australians, Canadians, and other Westerners would condemn Israel for defending itself while overlooking decades’ worth of Palestinian terrorism or the Palis blatant desire to destroy Israel, you must realize Israel is a cypher for the West itself. The Arabs/Iranians understand it too, which is why they call it the Little Satan (the U.S. of A. is of course The Great Satan). When they condemn Israel, they are condemning the West and Western values. Note that the same useful idiots also condemned our going into Iraq and even Afghanistan. It is the way of the leftist to condemn all things Western. The leftist wants to destroy the West, its institutions, and its traditions and replaced them with the socialist state. It is abhorrent to them to see a successful Westernized nation based on one of the West’s most influential religions defend itself. Their automatic sympathy is with the Other, the exotic. Or as I like to say, the leftist believes the guy with the better suntan and the crappier hut is the good guy. They don’t see good or evil in one’s actions. They only see oppressor and oppressed and only the inherently racist West can be oppressors.
There is of course anti-Semitism as well. Most European countries have never fully exorcised the anti-Semitism that has been part of their culture for centuries. As far as the left is concerned, Jews are okay so long as they are passive sheep or the victims of someone worse on the racism scale, i.e. “right wing” whites. Once they defend themselves, the left uses the old hook-nosed sneaky stereotypes that would embarrass the Klan. They may say they’re only opposed to Israel and not Jews in general, but they have nothing to say about Hamas considering all Jews to be its enemies, the attacks on Jews in other countries by Pali sympathizers, or why Israel should be singled out in a way Cuba, China, and other real human rights abusing countries never are.
Well, look, I’ll agree with you that Lennox is probably best using her voice for singing and not wading in to a geopolitical issue that requieres a clear head. But for every Annie Lennox, there is a Bono or a Mia Farrow who is articulate on policy and using his or her cultural capital in the service of greater humanity and for the benefit of American soft power.
How can anyone expect Isreal sit down with these Hamas leaders and try to come to a agreement when one of there leaders had his own son carry out a suicide bombing. These hamas leaders are full of hate for Isreal and i dont blame Isreal for retaliating.
“Still, would you bomb east Los Angeles just to root out some gangsters? Would that be a responsible approach?”
Yeah, given the following prerequisites: 1) the gangsters had been launching mortar attacks aimed at civilians outside of East L.A. for months; 2) you warned the innocent civilians to get the hell out; 3) you provided food and medicine for those who chose not to get out.
Sorry, but whether you like it or not, and much as I dislike the organization, Hamas is the legitimate elected representative of the Palestinian people. They voted out Fatah, just because we don’t like that does not mean it’s not true.
Enya did a better Lord of the Rings song than Annie Lennox.
(Looks at photo)
And better looking too.
MUCH better looking.
As with Msssssssss. LaLaLa Stresand, the message is the same: SHUT. UP. AND. SING. (although the pipes aren’t what they once were, are they, Annie? Babs? .
Losers.
Whoa–who made away with Bianca Jagger and left that weathered, old frump in her place?
What a happy looking bunch up there. They need some flowers and candies.
Duncan,
This has nothing to do with who the “elected” government is. It has to do with launching missiles into Israel, bombing restaurants and children’s school busses.
As it’s already been stated: Where was Ms. Lennox when the rockets were flying into Israel?
The hypocrisy is breathtaking.
I will not purchase any of her recordings in the future.
Peace is a contract. It takes two sides to live up to the terms of the deal to have a contract. When one side doesn’t, the only recourse by the other side is to enforce it.
Obviously, an entity like the U.N. has shown that it has no desire or ability to enforce peace, so Israel must enforce peace through the use of it’s military.
A party who unilaterally wants peace and lacks the ability or the desire to enforce it, is called a victim. So, based on this premise, I presume that Annie Lenox and friends are advocating that all Israelis be victims.
Good editorial by Natan Sharansky in today’s WSJ:
How the U.N. Perpetuates the ‘Refugee’ Problem
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123120586642556073.html?mod=todays_us_opinion
Didn’t Galloway betray the sanctions of his country by accepting oil contracts from Saddam Hussein. How come he hasn’t been hung. The Union don’t know Jack.
Galloway is wonderful. Thanks for letting me know there are other brave people out there who haven’t sold their souls to the evils of Zionism.
Ah George Galloway that so called super genius who got his lunch handed to him by Chris Hitchens. And Hitch wasn’t even trying.
ah sweet!
a page right outa ruperts playbook. good boy!
angry conservative losers commenting on self involved hollywood idiots.
give! me! moar!
forget the economy and the lost jobs and the wars and stupid ship like that!
what really interests me, is what some hillbilly in nebraska thinks about paris hilton.
this country is finished.
Fighting is bad. It’s not a fight until the other guy hits back. What’s so hard to understand?
/sarc
Israel is an oasis of liberty and democracy in the desert of middle-eastern neanderthalic muslims.
Neanderthal muslims, you might ask? You know, the kind of people who would strangle their daughter when she is raped, instead of comforting her and going after the jerks who did it?
Israel’s foes blame ALL on Israel, and it’s kind of funny, in a sad way.
Muslims attack Israel, get beat, and then Israel backs off and gives back land they won. Can you imagine Arabs doing that????
Oh, by the way….do the Palestinians go and build a country with the land they were given, or do they just attach Israel? Give me a break.
To heck with everyone who puts Israel and the Muslims who want them dead on the same moral plane.
Yeah, wtf don’t the Palestinians build a country on the land they have? again.. wtf??? and if they need more to use as a terrorist base, why don’t the Arabs give up a little of the whole Freaking Middle East they own and give the Palestinians a bit more of the damned place?? again WTF,, the Arabs and Palestinians do not want peace!
Answer: the Arabs just want to push Israel into the Sea! Nothing else. Period.
Learn the history, and stop being a leftist puppet! I am so sick of the “Hollywood elite” and the media manipulating the truth. If anything, Israel has been TOO PC. As others have noted, Israel gives up land for peace, then gets attacked, and has to fight for it. They even WARN people that they are going to attack, so innocents will get out of the way… but Hamas is notorious for trying to get more sympathy for using human shields. Too bad.
War isn’t pretty… but it’s better than turning over all your freedoms and living in an oppressed society. Until people realize we are at war with an ideology that is opposed to ours, that encourages lying to us and killing us, we will be in trouble. Early on after the birth of the US, tax-payer dollars were used to pay bribes so the radical islamists wouldn’t attack us (not in the history books in the public schools run by leftists). Eventually we had enough and fought them. That’s the only way. Fight, and try to re-educate survivors. Otherwise, it’ll just keep happening as they lie, kill, and force people to submit under their brutality.
Where was all this outrage when Hamas was launching rockets at Israel?
not a peep!It’s only when you defend your country that you’re wrong.
This carrying on about proportionate action is ridiculous.They don’t understand this Catholic concept. It’s not numerical.It’s a moral argument.
Anyone want to take this up,hollah.Will explain it. Israel IS using action that is directly proportional.
There is no peace without war. -Rush Limbaugh
Sounds mean doesn’t it? It’s true. As long as there is man, there will be war. You cannot convince a person who hates to stop hating any more than you could convince one who loves to stop loving. However, if the Jewish nation stays restrained, they will certainly all perish.
Life is hard, Annie.
If the eight people in the picture really want to experience the real “pornography of destruction”, perhaps a few graphic pictures of militant Hamas fighters camouflaging their weapons and themselves amongst non-combatant Palestinian women and children. That would give a more accurate portrayal of the PR-created phrase. People like the warped, mind-dead Lennox, Jagger, and the rest of their shrieking ilk use their celebrity to play to the ill-informed teens and groupies who think reality can be found in a few pithy, self-serving phrases by so-called “rock gods”.
I am not a fan of Israeli premier Ehud Olmert and his Kadima party, but for three years, they steadfastly honored a truce while Hamas matched them with rocket and mortar fire fired into Israeli towns and villages near the Gaza border.
Before the shameless eight in the picture criticize Israel for defending itself, legitimately, it should examine their own country’s record of violence in subjugating Ireland, Scotland and the Indian sub-content.
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First, what kind of qualification is she invoking “as a mother” even to weigh in? People have a right to speak and a right to be ignorant, but most try at least to be circumspect about exercising both rights at the same time.
Second, Josh Miller’s thought experiment at quidsit.com sums up this idiocy:
“In the first scenario, Palestine dumps all its weapons into the ocean. What happens? Peace! The wall (which so many people love to complain about) comes down. There is no retaliation for acts of terrorism on Israel’s side, because there’s no more terrorism. No more women and children die because there are no more rockets to both hide and fire amongst the civilian population. The “humanitarian disaster” ends in Gaza.
“In the second scenario, Israel dumps all its weapons into the ocean…………”
Being confused about who is the “real” obstacle to peace is bad enough; coming to the wrong conclusion is just stupidity on stilts. I doubt she is acting in bad faith like some of those pictured above; vicious enemies of liberty like Galloway at lease rise to the level of actual villainy. Lennox just manages to come off as a useful idiot – and the emphasis is not on her usefulness.
I didn’t see anything coming from the mouth of Lennox refering to the slaughter in Mumbai….those Hindu’s are probably miserable anyways..I am being satirical on that, .but the ever productive ever peace loving Hamas Palestinians…now there is a cause celebre for the useful idiots…maybe she can’t put 2 and 2 together in a single thought…she needs to get up off her mother ass and visit Israel…and then go visit the scum ridden refugee camps of Gaza…where after 40 years, these people remain….oh, and the greenhouses that produced tons of food that were left behind by the settlers who were forced out by the fools in the Israeli government, well they were not taken over and used to make food…no, no, they were smashed to pieces by the rocket scientists in Gaza…who cannot learn to fish, they must always be dependant on the UN (US) for food…so Anne…why don’t you go to Gaza and live in peace amongst the murderous scum Hamas..maybe you can be a rocket scientist and learn to shoot rockets into the civilian areas of Israel
Whiskey’s comment got me thinking to ask this question. Isn’t this a kind of Bad Guy attraction writ large? Women castrating their men at home (of course the wimp allows himself to be castrated) and then finding romance with the rogue?
A better question and more accurate analogy would be:
Lennox is British, so she probably sees Israel as a foreign country. She probably feels that any obligations of national loyalty she owes, she owes to Britain, not Israel. She probably doesn’t feel it appropriate to place Israel’s interest over Britain’s interests.
Mike Toreno — “She (LENNOX) probably doesn’t feel it appropriate to place Israel’s interest over Britain’s interests.”
Which makes one wonder why she places the bogus interests of the Islamo-Nazis, occupying the Palestinian entity, over those of Britain, which has the honorable distinction of leading the fight against the forerunner actual Nazis during WW2.
Maybe because she is an ignorant cow? Who knows.
Jack, evidently she doesn’t conflate Israel’s interests with Britain’s interests, considering that Israel and Britain are separate countries.
Her support or nonsupport of “Islamo-Nazis” is irrelevant, considering that there is not any such thing as Islamo-Nazis; it is just a term you made up in order to justify your support of Israel’s interests. Now, if you are an Israeli citizen, your support of Israel’s interests is understandable, but if you are a citizen of some other country, such as the United States, one wonders why you are so concerned over the interests of what to you is (or should be) a foreign country.
Mike Toreno — Get a new script. Go back to Kos and Dhummies. You’ll find a more receptive audience for your brazen anti-Jew garbage.
As to your ludicous defense of the Islamo-Nazis, not only do they exist but Yassir Arafascist sucked at the tit of one of their originators.
That would be his grand uncle, (and friend of Hitler, leader of SS divisions, cheer leader of the final solution, a “man” who should have been strung up for war crimes) the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.
I do realize that you want your country allied with the Islamo-Nazis, but that is very unlikely to happen. Unless you are already in Iran or Syria.
Mike Toreno
I could flip that question why is she so concerned about Gaza then? By your statement she shouldn’t care one or the other. Why is the rest of the world so concerned about how Israel deals with an enemy? It’s the same way with everyone always concerned about the damage Israel inflicts and never really cares what Hamas does.
Pandax, Ms. Lennox is concerned about Gaza because of the suffering and death she sees, and she responds to what she sees as immoral actions by a foreign country that, in her view, lead to that suffering and death. The rest of the world is concerned about how Israel deals with its enemy because they are primarily loyal not to Israel, but to their own countries. This is why they do not try to silence criticism of Israel, because they do not feel they have a duty to defending every action Israel undertakes and stifle every criticism of what is, after all, a foreign country. What I want to know is, why are so many people who post here so desperately concerned with defending the actions of a foreign country and silencing its critics? As an American, or a Briton, or a Spaniard, or whatever, why should anyone care if some British subject exercises her freedom of speech to criticize a foreign country? As an American, I don’t understand how a loyal American could have such an attitude.
“she responds to what she sees as immoral actions”
Welcome back to the thread. Let us know if you have a relevant thought.
Agent, I’m just seeking to understand. Can you explain to me why so many posts here are concerned with defining acceptable and unacceptable speech based on the interests of a foreign country?
She’ll rail against the Crown when the Majadroon (Pakistani ‘immigrants’) start lobbing missles from Red Livingstone’s district into the rest of London.
I’m just freaking tired of anti-semitism – against each other – by Semitic peoples. Also of people who assume that a talented, experienced, well-read, intelligent performer has something other than reasons for her position as those who criticize her have for theirs.
Folks, when there are two sides to a story, there are two (2) sides to a story, and maybe more. Some of these posts remind me of what I read last night that Barney Frank once said: Anti-abortion folks are pro-life, if pro-life is defined as “from conception until birth.”
Go OKC Potatoes!!!
wow. all these comments… you are all sheep.
do you know ANYTHING about annie lennox? she’s been an activist for years on a variety of causes – mostly related to feminism, gay/lesbian activism, women’s issues and reproductive rights. she’s done massive amounts of traveling to impoverished regions (namely in africa), relief work and charity work – more, i bet, than you or any of the people that seem to think it’s okay to question her relevance or reaction to a WAR!
perhaps she’s taken note of the incredibly lopsided news coverage that western news gives toward israel and is seeking to broaden the dialogue or perhaps she’s noticed the bush administrations complete and utter failure to broker any kind of progress in the region so she decided to say speak out about it – oh, wait, it appears nobody here cares so much about that… she should just shut up and sing because all she really wants is to kill jews, right? gadzuuks. get a grip.
You’re all unhuman, didn’t you c pics of dead childrend killed bu Israeli rockets ? israeli bombs are and were an will be targeted to kill children, women and old people, and you keep saying that Israel is protecting itself…give me a break…israel is the NEO NAZI…
I keep seeing Liberals defending Hamas by either A) insulting Conservatives, or B) ignoring all the facts and making general statements. They will never address the claims by Hamas that they want nothing but the death of the Jews (and the West for that matter), that they intentionally put their citizens in harms way then try to capitalize on the tragedy (including the fake video of a child dying they had to pull from CNN this week), that they’ve committed thousands of individual acts of terrorism in just the last few years (but we’ll hear about Christians because of a handful of incidents involving abortion clinic attacks by a few nuts until the end of time), or that they hate homosexuals or strong women (the first thing that any Muslim extremist group does is subjugate the women of their country).
If it wasn’t so sad it would be laughable.
How are they any different than Sean Penn, Danny Glover, and Kevin Spacey who have become zombie stooges for Hugo Chavez and his Jew hating, Iran loving thugs. Hollywood is silent when Jews are being murdered. Even the Hollywood Jews say nothing.
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I as a liberal, am prepared to answer your call, Des, without ignoring the facts, making general statements, or ignoring Hamas. The facts are that 1) Hamas was created because Israel wanted to get rid of Arafat’s party. While it is true that their more radical faction is committed to the destruction of Israel, they have repeatedly said that they would recognize the right of israel to exist if Israel would afford Palestinians the same privilege by respecting the 67 borders, not bulldozing their homes, not cutting off their electricity, food, water, and medecine. Of course, there are extremists on both sides, but they should not be taken to represent the views of the majority. 2) Hamas does not use human shields, Gaza is a TINY TINY area with 1.5 million people crammed in, no matter where you go there are people. It is one of the most dense areas in the world. Thats why air strikes violate international law – because there you must disregard the lives of innocents to hit your targets. 3) Your views of Muslims are at the least stereotypes and at the most blatant racism. There are moderate secular arab nations (such as Palestine) that are quite progressive in their treatment of homosexuals and women. The fact of the matter is that Israel is an apartheid state – arabs and jews do not get equal treatment. They have caged the palestinians in a small area, deprived them of their human rights, and are now systematically killing innocents. Sound familiar? We used to call that a Nazi concentration camp. The oppressed have become the oppressors and that is just sad.
most of u are so ridiculous ur way of thinkin…u wanna talk bout the facts that happened before i would be glad to hear 1 argument that actually makes sense…but u would rather insult because u do not know how to justify the criminal acts of israel….and to the person who said that israel won this land…ya right after WWII?????ur funny…
the problem is everytime someone wants to defend palestine arabs become terrorists…look up the word terrorist and u’ll see that from it’s start israel is a terrorist country and to install the terror in the arab world( because palestine is not the only country to suffer from this non-sense) they use the help of the united states….everyone knows that israel is not strong enough to get all these weapons by its own…(so let’S not blame iran for defending palestine..that doesnt not make them terrorists)
about the cease fire…there are other ways of breaking the cease-fire other than with weapons..and this is exactly what Israel did…..before hamas even decided they wanted to shoot rockets gaza was suffering from the lack of food,oil,water due to the sort of ”embargo” israel decided to install….that proves my point..israel was the one to break the cease fire not only because people died but also because is was not part of the agreement they made.
u people are saying that we dont know history….trust me we know more than u do and we can show proof and actual facts and pictures to defend our point of view and thoughts whereas u can only only use ur worthless words that are not based on any truth…
and just to tell u who the real terrorists are..and who are the people that teach hatred to their kids i saw pictures of little jewish girl drawing on the weapons that were going to kill innocent people…thats how happy it makes them…and it is just sick…
well i dont think u people actually care but really try not to debate when u dont know what ur talking bout…
Dear ME, a very good writing, there are too much facts hidden by the media, zionist even manage to control this. One of their oldest and effective strategy. My face were turned red when i read some writings about hamas has broken the cease fire in the 1st place, and more writing about the rockets rather than the 60 years of escalating invasion or about the lost of 800.000 lives. We cant blame them anyway for not knowing the truth. But the battle between Good and Israel will prevail until the judgement day come close.
Dear ME, a very good writing, there are too much facts hidden by the media, zionist even manage to control this. One of their oldest and effective strategy. My face was turned red when i read some writings about hamas has broken the cease fire in the 1st place, and more writing about the rockets rather than the 60 years of escalating invasion or about the lost of 800.000 lives. We cant blame them anyway for not knowing the truth. But the battle between Good and Israel will prevail until the judgement day come close.
Dear TOM, does the “manifest of european heritage” include: genocide, use of illegal weapon (you must have known better), murder women and children, bombing refugee supply, bulldozing peace worker to death (happen to be an american) and more terror crime? Or do you think the world should make another congress in viena to make it legal? We are talking about a state gone crazy doing massive scale of terror and you compared to muslim extremist? And just bcause a state doesnt embrace democracy and using God’s given law doesnt mean its barbaric Tom. The Mind, just like what you said about the internet, one should use it properly in the right direction.
Annie Lennox’s statement to the press relating to the Gaza war is surprising by its total disregard for Israeli suffering.
Israelis have had to submit to hundreds of terrorist attacks, ie. attacks against their civilian population for over 40 years now. In a recent eight day period, 300 missiles were sent into Israel with missiles at times hitting southern cities, towns and villages. The constant psychic toll of never knowing if a missile will claim you is a staggering demand to make of any individual.
As Canadian Nobel prize for literature nominee, Irving Layton once put it, “Why should they be expected to sit there like clay ducks in a shooting gallery?”
And as we speak of Canada, Canada has not been hit even once by a terrorist attack and yet it has enacted legislation that allows for “security certificates”, ie. the right of Canadian enforcement agencies to detain and charge anyone suspected of planning to commit a terrorist act, without them knowing what the charges are. If Canada can go that way without even one attack, surely Israel has the right to properly defend itself considering the kind of long history it has had to endure relating to attacks against its civilian population.
The war in the Falklands was a British war over a wisp of a land mass in the middle of nowhere in the Atlantic over a very questionable British possession. In effect the war was fought for ego reasons alone, but approx. 300 Argentinian sailors were blown out of the Atlantic by the British navy. Where was Annie Lennox? Did she protest? In contrast Israel is fighting for the survival of its population and its towns and villages.
Is part of the truth that: Annie Lennox knows who’s buttering her bread in the U.K. ; that it’s ok to kick the Israelis but that to keep one’s nose clean in Britain is imperative. I checked Ms. Lennox’s website forum sub-section, “Activism”. Actually her scope for activism is puzzlingly restricted for someone so vocal and passionate in her attack against Israeli force. There ’s not a sign of any activism to fight British Petroleum, known to be not only corrupt in its predation but a company with one of the world’s worst pollution records (which other Brits have protested); or British presence in Iraq (incl. abuses) (which other Brits have protested); or the refusal by British museums to allow for repatriation of iconic heritage cultural art treasure heirlooms by the African countries of origin , from whom they were stolen during days of “Empire”(which other Brits have protested).
Although Ms. Lennox is a Scotswoman, it’s clear she has been infected by English sanctimonious finger pointing hypocrisy, and is cow-towing to it.
Alexie Sayle (an English Jew), Harold Pinter (an English Jew), and Annie Lenox ( a woman married to an Israeli )have all needed to “make penance” for the sins of Israel. They have no need to make pennance for days of Empire. Neither Sayole or Pinter or Lennox have ever protested BBC TV drama programming that glorifies the days of the British Empire, an Empire that enslaved hundreds of thousands of Africans , that pillaged their resources and art treasures and hung signs on their whiskey cocktail lounges saying, “No entrance to natives”.
They make penance while Israelis wonder where and when the next missile is coming.
What I’m really ranting about is not her expression of compassion for Gazans. That’s totally understandable. It’s her Calvinist dualist view that makes her blind and does not allow her to stand up at the same news conference and show some compassion for the Israeli side.
Yes, I confess that though Ms. Lennox is an admirable artist, I will NEVER AGAIN PURCHASE any of her recordings.
“I am battling against the worst of the English vices: hypocrisy” – Oscar Wilde
“We live in a country with structured hypocrisy” – John LeCarre
The Israelis are filth.
I'm proud that Jews all over the world are helping to expose the Nazi barbarities of Israel—this monumental disgrace to the Jewish people.
You can read the report on Israel's "self-defense" measures.
I suggest you bring along a strong stomach!
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/sp...
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The lack of support for Palestine is rather depressing. Even more so by celebrities. I'm sorry but I enjoy watching those artillery firing jerks getting their neighborhood hit by Kazam rockets. If they want peace(which clearly they don't) they should stop terrorizing the people of Palestine with constant killings of children and women, even pregnant women.
Hail IDF, Hail IDF down with the Arabs
PS: I need a fresh Lung, possible to get one of those Organs from dead Palestines which the IDF Soldiers collect ? Thx and regards
HAil IDF Hail IDF Down with the Arabs.
How about some camps for those people ?
Scientist say:" It's 99.8% alike that you would slip off a vegetable which is lying on the floor then hit by a Kazam rocket"
Guess what? These were Israeli scientist
Do you know anything about history, ignorant….go and read some books….this is not Palestine who has been terrorised Jews ….go back to history
They were just there, in there own country living a peaceful life
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