Film School Rejects: Making Fun of Homosexuality ‘No Longer Acceptable’
by John NolteNothing is more troubling than reading those who cover the world of entertainment advocating in favor of speech restrictions. Film School Rejects is an above average film site with above average writers, but stuff like this is just neo-fascism and outright anti-intellectual nonsense:
While the nation pondered its dense history of homophobic bullying after a string of gay youth suicides starting popping up on the front pages, the trailer for the Ron Howard “comedy” The Dilemma was released with a “gay = stupid” joke as its lead. What would otherwise pass by as an unexamined passive slam against an already-maligned group became no longer acceptable.
The line was unintelligibly defended by Howard, Vince Vaughn, and numerous web commentators who think that a joke too lazy and immature for anybody over 13 to find funny is the same thing as South Park-style take-no-prisoners satire. It’s lazy comedy, and the reaction to it is further evidence that we as a culture have shifted from our Eddie Murphy Delirious days: homophobes, not homosexuals, are now the subject of derisive humor. As The Kids Are All Right and Modern Family have shown, you can have great comedy about homosexuals without making fun of homosexuality.
And where exactly will the local burning of the “Blazing Saddles” and “Birdcage” DVDs take place? How about at the free needle and condom exchange where we turn in our incandescent light bulbs and Happy Meal toys?
If making fun of homosexuality is now off limits, what’s next? Christianity? Conservatism? Southerners? Caucasians? Men? Dads? Fundamentalists? I think not. I think what we have here is a short but exclusive bus that parks in a Satire Free Zone.
Sorry, but you can’t inoculate a particular thing or person or group from satire and/or ridicule unless you’re in favor of inoculating everyone under the same premise. In the case of our gay friends, the absurd premise appears to be that who we are is off limits to humor. You can have a gay character in a sitcom but you can’t mock the gayness.
Okay. Fine. Un-American, unconstitutional, immoral, but fine. So how exactly will this slippery-slope of new rules work for the rest of us?
Southerners are stereotyped and ridiculed and mocked everyday in popular entertainment culture, which is no different than mocking someone’s sexuality. After all, targeting identity is targeting identity. And yes, Big Hollywood is the first to fight back when we see our side taking a pop culture beating. But there’s a big difference between fighting back; which is nothing more than being a part of the debate, and demanding it stop altogether; which is a declarative call for stifling debate and free speech.
The Trojan Horse for this latest PC-fascism push is this whole bullying meme. No one hates a bully more than I, but in this case it’s Film School Rejects and their leftist ilk doing the bullying; commanding from some phony moral high ground that those of us who don’t shut up as commanded are in some way responsible for these tragic suicides. Newsflash…
What attracts bullies is and always will be one thing: weakness. And if you want to prove you’re weak, a good way to start is with the whine of, don’t make fun of me.
The only people I would inoculate from ridicule are those who are unable to fight back. Trig Palin, for instance, and others similarly handicapped. But all this PC energy is instead being used to protect those who recent history has shown are more than capable when it comes to standing up for and defending themselves. You would think the gay community would be more insulted by those insisting they need some kind of unique sticks-and-stones protections than some dumb joke about electric cars.
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Amen, John! The libtards feel the need to control everything, whether it comes to guns, speech both out loud and in writing (like here on the 'net), even human life!
It's high time we tell these lunatics that enough is enough and we won't have them squelching our right to expression!
I'm thinking most gays are insulted by this, but the "gay community", made up of self-appointed "protectors", aren't there to speak for gays, they're there to speak for the "Gay Community." Oh by the way, they are the bullies, and WE aren't going to let them have it their way.
Gee, I thought the gay life style was settled science. Acceptable to all but the extreme far right , everyone knows who they are. Those are the ones that foment the bullying resulting in the many deaths that appear daily on our front pages,
The CHRISTIANS. We need PC to limit those "CHRISTIANS" from from evangelizing in the streets and from the pulpit, against homosexuals, as they have in the enlightened country of Canada. Once the "CHRISTIANS" have been silenced than we can all live in piece,
harmony and strive for the aids free society we deserve.
Ahh yes, the double standard in its most base form.
Gays will make fun of whatever and whoever they want, and usually in a very demeaning way, but heaven forbid anyone return the favor.
I'm looking at YOU Anderson Cooper….
"Okay. Fine. Un-American, unconstitutional, immoral, but fine." – John Nolte
It's only unconstitutional if the government prohibits it.
Rats!
That means Eddie Izzard won't be appearing on HBO anymore.
Can't we make an exception for him?
He's too funny to waste.
(And yes, I know he is a transvestite and not a homosexual, but he lampoons EVERYTHING sexual hilariously.)
One would wonder, would Jerry Seinfeld avocate that only Jews can tell Jewish jokes? Or Chris Rock demanding anyone who tells a joke about an African American be blackballed? I'd like to think not. So why should there be any special treatment for anyone else?
After all, it's just words. Not actions. Matthew Shephard suffered a hell of a lot more than simply being bullied. Not only that, but if we cannot joke around with one another, how could we ever see eye to eye?
Its quite similar to the n-word debate. The difference is, in that case, its just one horrific and racist word, where here it could be any number of words that the so called powers that be, deam homophobic. In a sense, homophobic is the new race card. I only hope these hypocrites are one day called out for the idiots that they are.
Does this mean that the PC crowd will stop using the term "tea-baggers" to mock the tea partiers?
Sorry, the CHRISTIANS understand the concept of "Hate the sin, love the sinner"
It's the very politically correct left who only understand the concept of "do what I say, not what I do" and have a spineless hypocrisy that not only destroys what they weakly claim to be protecting but is destroying the fabric of society as a whole.
These morons honestly think it's the Tea Party that came up with that term
Film School Rejects are so gay.
It's all about setting the rules for the debate. If they set the rules, they win, they know that, so that's exactly what they do.
I'll be happy to return the favor. They are so gay.
I'm guessing wicked retorts in Latin.
I swear by everything Holy, I will continue to target everything funny regardless of job/career, race , creed, nationality (mainly french jokes) and sexuality.Try and stop me.
They probably all drive electric cars too.
I'm curious, this electric cars are gay joke isn't something new. The Simpsons did it too. Will the homonazis go after Groening and Brooks?
http://www.planetvids.com/funny-videos/4400/simps...
"While the nation pondered its dense history of homophobic bullying after a string of gay youth suicides starting popping up on the front pages"
I find it bizarre to see this kind of had wringing at a time when the nation is the most tolerant, if not embracing of homosexuality that it has *ever* been.
Free speech means freedom to insult you. Man, where did you get those shoes? Is that a muslim in your pants or are you just glad to behead me?
It’s lazy comedy, and the reaction to it is further evidence that we as a culture have shifted from our Eddie Murphy Delirious days: homophobes, not homosexuals, are now the subject of derisive humor
It's almost impossible to parody these leftwing imbeciles. Liberals seem to have no problem throwing out homosexual slurs like "teabagger" and "faggot" incessantly so it's rather hard to take them seriously [no Hollywood high school dropout actor should really ever be taken seriously] over their feigned outrage. I wonder if the Hollywood regressives will have the same attitude towards their constant Jew and Christian bashing.
Liberal cretins, tolerance is a two way street.
The gay army can go and clean up after the straight army kicks azz.
Usvrsthem's post is ironic, I think.
Bright blues ones too!
Dont forget the HIGH-larious Polish humor. Those kooky Poles cant do anything right!
Why did the little Greek boy run away from home?
He didn''t like the way he was being reared.
I know, been married to one for 33 years, great sense of humor and can give back in spades(am I allowed to say that?)
What do lesbians eat when they are on a diet?
Jenny Craig.
if gays want to be treated like everyone else, they have to be wiling to take their lumps like everyone else. Are they so delicate and easily offended that they can't take jokes? Actually, I don't think the gay people I know mind humor pointed at gays at all. It is those liberals who want to control everything that come up with these dopey rules.
A gay woman from Los Angeles , CA , who was a tree hugger, a Democrat, and an anti-hunter, purchased a piece of timberland near Colville , WA . There was a large tree on one of the highest points in the tract. She wanted a good view of the natural splendor of her land so she started to climb the big tree. As she neared the top she encountered a spotted owl that attacked her. In her haste to escape, the woman slid down the tree to the ground and got many splinters in her crotch.
In considerable pain, she hurried to Mt. Carmel ER to see a doctor. She told him she was an environmentalist, a democrat, and an anti-hunter and how she came to get all the splinters. The doctor listened to her story with great patience and then told her to go wait in the examining room and he would see if he could help her.
She sat and waited three hours before the doctor reappeared. The angry woman demanded, "What took you so long?" He smiled and then told her, "Well, I had to get permits from the Environmental Protection Agency, the Forest Service, and the Bureau of Land Management before I could remove old-growth timber from a recreational area. I'm sorry, but due to Obama Care, they turned me down."
All this being gay stuff is a smoke screen for attacking Faith , family and morality. I don't think that you should bebanned from jobs because you are gay or treated any diffrent from me because I am not gay. BUT this is all a smoke screen to get homosexuality accepted by people who see it as wrong. Very soon the Bible will be considered hate speech and banned. a preacher won't be able to speak on certain passages of scripture becasue it is hate speech.(except for Islam the religion of Peace)
Can someone get a person from hollywood to explain to me why if making fun of gay people is no longer acceptable glee is still permitted to be on my tv?
Don't laugh, don't tell.
"Southerners are stereotyped and ridiculed and mocked everyday in popular entertainment culture, which is no different than mocking someone’s sexuality.
Well – not exactly. One of these has a choice. I know this won't earn me many points, but the number of homosexuals who "can't help" but be homosexual is greatly exaggerated. Not to mention that the number of homosexuals in general as a percentage of the population is greatly exaggerated.
It's easy enough to refute: Just show me the "Gay" gene, and I'll concede that first point. But, then you'll have to explain to me how that "Gay" gene propigates.
I say we refer to them as salad tossers, as they are all vegan vegetarians
How do they know the "electric cars are gay" joke meant to lampoon homosexuality? Maybe they meant "electric cars are happy". Gay never meant homosexual before recent history, and now it doesn't mean homosexual (exclusively) anymore. You can't control the evolution of the human language. Stop being so gay!
Komenor is right, I think.
Emitting huge clouds of Smug, drifting eastward from San Francisco…
Oh, sorry, that's Priuses.
What you say is happening in Canada, Europe and Australia. We have hate speech laws in America, thanks to that paragon of virtue and morality, Ted Kennedy, that will put preachers in jail for preaching against the sin of homosexuality. The pols say that wont happen but do I trust them? In a word, no. I'll just have to take my Bible to jail with me.
Being Southern is not by choice but rather by grace of God.
I've been using that one for awhile.
If making fun of homosexuality is now off limits, what’s next? Christianity? Conservatism? Southerners? Caucasians? Men? Dads? Fundamentalists?
These things will always be fair game and we know it.
You're reading the maundering of twisted subhumans, networked as they never were in the good old days when we could put them in sanitariums and isolate them from the bigger world.
I'm so incredibly tired of the PC "You might offend somebody!" defense against, well, everything. People on the left have such incredibly thin skins. I really think that the rank and file American citizen must roll their eyes everytime someone on the left gets their panties in a bunch about something as insignificant as using the word "gay" to make a joke. Archie Bunker might have been one of the most non-PC characters in the history of TV, and that was over 30 years ago! Today, a character like Archie could not exist because the PC police wouldn't allow it.
I hope others see the sarcasim I was going for. From the thumbs down I assume
they took it that I actually agree with the thought I expressed, tho there is certainly
a thread of truth in the comment.
Carrol Burnet had a skit about this back in the 70s, about the troubles of writting a skit and not offending anyone.
I don't think they are Ed, they seem more angry then gay.
My cousins gay, he went to London only to find out that Big Ben was a clock.
(Rodney Dangerfield)
The left, with the generous help of academia and the MSM, have done a wonderful job of redefining what the political left and the political right are. When we allow them to do that, they are setting the premise of the debate so that they are guaranteed to win the debate.The political left is the supremacy of the state at the expense of the individual. The political right is the supremacy of the individual at the expense of the state. Any person, group or organization that tries to use the state to force their will on others at the point of a gun are left wing.That includes the KKK, white supremacists, fascists, and those that want government to control what consenting adults do among themselves that harm no one else. Anyone who wants government to force people is left wing. By the way that includes a huge chunk of the GOP. They love big government as long as they're in charge.
I think the super-intelligent (like Asians) are not a victim class so they can be made fun of. Plus they are usually confident enough to laugh at themselves.
But he returned because he didn't want to leave his friend's behind…..
As gay as electric cars?
Isn't that spelled "Prissies"?
Allow me to take it one step further,
It's only unconstitutional if the Constitution prohibits it.
The government has and continues to promote and/or prohibit things that have no basis in the constitution.
Well there is gay and then there's gay.
And then there's fabulously gay.
Way more gay.
And of course don't forget the biggest target, your self!
SIMPSONS DID IT!
Express a thought via sarcasim at your own risk. I know that but I feel the need to
periodically get beat up just to get the lumps. Ah well……
The Greek man boasts to an Italian man 'we are the best country ever as we invented sex', the Italian man replies 'you did, but we are the best country ever as we started doing it with women!'.
those last two comments were great! unfortunately, the wicked retorts will make such arcane references they'll still need to be explained after we get them translated. and if i didn't read FoxTrot comics, i wouldn't have gotten NoBigGov's zinger….
Can you see Blazing Saddles getting made today??
These PC nazi d-bags on the left would've stopped that masterpiece from seeing the light of day. Indeed they would've kept the mighty Mel Brooks from becoming the creator of some of the funniest movies in history.
Think about that for a moment. Who are they repressing today that could be the same kind of genius as Mel Brooks?
If there is a gene, I don´t think it wouldn´t have to propagate. I´m no geneticist but certain traits just pop up from time to time even if they do not help reproduction.
For me that is beside the point. We make fun of fat, short, bald, nearsighted people all the time, and what choice do they have? Movies denigrate grumpy, grudging or greedy characters all the time, but who knows whether these traits are down to free choice? Of course the PC crowd might say that we shouldn´t make fun of anything. Well, they can kiss my shapely behind.
Settled science? Only to libtards on the far left, like Global Warming.
You can't limit what people might say, as that violates that pesky First Amendment thing thatkeeps most libtards from realizing such utopias as Canada. So, since you love Canada so much, when do you emigrate? If I thought I was living next to a more enlightened country, I'd move immediately. Remember to forward your mail.
or from Jeff Dunham-
audience member: "How do I tell my wife I'm actually gay?"
Walter: "Buy a Prius."
No, they love their gay porn too much.
Well, this is something that's been stuck in my craw for some time. The political right has allowed the political left to redefine to political spectrum to suit their own ends.
It's one of the reasons the left is so successful when it comes to politics. They set the definitions, they set the terms of the debate, so more often than not, they win.
Why is fascism considered right wing when its obviously not? Because the left says so. That has to stop. The time has come to stop fighting by the left's rules.
Ed, exactly. It's hard for some to understand that concept (like TrooBloo for instance). You can say you are "Republican" or "conservative" or "on the right", but if your actions show otherwise, well, then you're not.
Although I do see that there aren't that many individual conservatives (as opposed to politicians) that I have run into that want to tell me what to do. They seem to take the same view as libertarians – personal responsibility.
It was one of the first things I had to comprehend in going from left to right.
I was wondering if it was or not. I usually wait before commenting on such things because I've been burned in the past.
I'm sure it will all get rectified soon.
;-D
"Sarcasm tags" usually help although it does take away from the point of being sarcastic if you are broadcasting it. LOL!
Well, I believe the timeline was that some innocent Tea Partier used the term, the Left made fun of it, and as soon as the otherwise innocent Tea Partiers realized that they just didn't have dirty minds and didn't know what the term meant, they stopped using it.
The Left, being a bunch of immature morons, haven't stopped. I think it's even worse when someone like a news person or someone who is otherwise educated and intelligent uses it. It just demeans them and they don't even realize it. It's like a pretty woman all dressed up opening up her mouth and spewing expletives.
Thanks for the Fabulous explanation.
LOL! I remember that! That was so funny!
I thought it was "flaming"??
How gay are they!?!?!
a Simpson always does it….
I started getting it when I started jovially debating a fellow coworker who at that time called himself a libertarian. (He's since changed his term to anarcho-capitalists.)
He asked a very simple, yet extremely complicated question. What moral right do I have to force him to do anything?
He was right. None.
Over the last ten years of debating him I've come to the conclusion, that is the root cause of most of humanity's problems. One group trying to force another group to do something against their will, and eventually resorting to violence to accomplish it. That's what needs to stop.
BINGO! All "victim" groups are exactly the same – they are not looking for EQUAL treatment but SPECIAL treatment.
If only you could have seen the "jazz fingers" while I hit reply!
You should hear my gay cousin from San Francisco who is an aspiring stand up comedian. Generally a pretty funny guy, even with his never ending ridicule of "teabaggers", but don't make a joke about Obama or liberalism around him, he'll go into a Pelosi style, "Are you serious? Are you serious!" rant (yes, he also likes Nanzi, she's just misunderstood and the only reason anyone dislikes her is because the right-wingers who control the media collude against her… Yeah…).
I haven't seen him in about a year, but the last time we were together, I made a joke about why Obama picked Biden to be his veep. In my expert analysis, I could come up with only two reasons. Either Obama picked that buffoon as insurance against assassination, or Biden has the Kenyan birth certificate locked away in a safety deposit box somewhere. He immediately launched into the "Are you serious?" rant, where I had to explain to the comedian that it was a joke, nothing to get bent out of shape over. As he explained to me, that kind of humor simply isn't funny, he would know, he's a comedian. He does do some pretty funny gay jokes too, but I have to bite my tongue now if I feel the urge to make a gay joke around him, somehow I get the feeling that if I make a gay joke it simply won't be funny.
Did I mention he's also an Ivy League grad? Yeah, quite the piece of work.
It's kind of complicated. Think of it as a tree diagram of the human, how we got from apes to humans.
Flaming is a slightly different branch than fabulous. They are close, but technically not the same.
Of course the science hasn't been settled, I don't care what Al Gore says.
While I do agree that we're ALL a tad too sensitive these days (recently the nation of Peru demanded an apology from the American ambassador there because "Modern Family's" Columbian character made a joke about Peruvians!), I'm surprised so many people here find their lives incomplete and empty without gay jokes. I think Mr. Notle's umbrage is a bit unwarranted–the Film School Rejects piece isn't advocating free speech suspension or dvd burning, but succinctly summarizing major trends in film of the past year. (and dare I say it, their post is more interesting than this site's interminable 25 best liberal films countdown series) But I do thank Mr. Nolte–I had never heard of Film School Rejects before his link! Looks like a cool site!
Can you imagine what the GLAAD police would make of this Archie Bunker clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dKpHtc9F9M
It's called humor.
Anything you read that significantly incorporates the words "bully" or "hate" is homosexual propaganda. Capture the language and you capture the culture. Don't think so? I give you what has happened to the word "gay".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrapC2a_3Xg
See that's the type of person I couldn't resist needling. I'd create an entire routine around Obama and Biden and Pelosi and gays just for his visits. I'd show up at whatever venue he is performing in and heckle him with the same jokes.
He'd either grow some thicker skin or fling a high heel at me….
Possibly my insecurity is showing by commenting on this thread several times
to cover my original comment where as you say I could have just added a tag,
While I care not what trolls and one or two others think, I do want those I respect to
know what the heck I'm talking about.
I see, so flaming is the militant branch then? The branch that insists that chubby, hairy homosexual men look good in Daisy Dukes?
The fabulous branch must then be responsible for all those awful home decorating shows….
Please look at my other recent comments above. Thanks
Yep. They've also ruined the cooking channels with shows about cakes.
I still find that funny when gays are called flaming as that is slag for f##k. So when someones says 'hes one of those flaming gays' as an explanation I'm hearing 'hes one of the f##king gays'…
I received your reply to my comment above as an e-mail but it doesn't appear on the thread or is slow getting there.
I was being sarcastic and certainly do not truly feel as my thought was expressed. Please read
my comments farther down that chain and possibly reassess your comment. At least I hope so.
"Trig Palin, for instance, and others similarly handicapped."
It's very revealing that only NOW conservatives think that the mentally handicapped are exempt from being bullied. Thanks, Trig Palin. Maybe when John Nolte and/or Karl Rove finally come out will gays be added to the list.
Your thoughts echo those that I have had for some time now. When you want nothing to be considered immoral, you have to get rid of faith in any way you can. Many liberals/progressives are trying to do that in any way they can. The ACLU is after Catholic hospitals. Abortion, getting rid of the elderly, breaking up the family, sex without committment are all things that most people of faith abhor, so either the faith, the people with faith, or both need to be eliminated to push forward the liberal agena where government and those who run it are god.
See when I hear flaming I think of the flamboyant lisp-toting gay that parades his homosexuality in front of everyone as if anyone else cared.
Ok, now I get it…
LOL
That's pretty gay!
dont be a retard.
a few conservatives dont like using the term in a faux attempt at protecting the "mentally handicapped."
the majority of folks dont take offence. and the more mature adults can come up with better terms to describe the miniscule mental capacity of liberals.
so, dont be gay and think that all conservatives take offence to using that sort of retarded language.
And “Fabulous!”
That's the way it is meant or seen now days, but older Aussie slang gives it a differnt spin for me!
I find it so funny that a show that is clearly trying to represent gays well has their gay character be just about every stereotype of a gay person that exists. Effeminate? Check. Loves fashion? Check. Physically weak and puny? Check. Loves show tunes? Check. Sounds like a girl? Check. Way to reinforce stereotypes, Glee!
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