REVIEW: ‘Kick-Ass’ Is Not Just For Libertarians
by John NolteWhen it comes to films, the least of my concerns is content. The stuff that’s in a movie has very little to do with its theme — what a story wants to tell the world — and that’s where a filmmaker is most likely to win or lose me. Does “Kick Ass” have an 11 year-old costumed heroine named Hit Girl who lays violent waste to bad guys but only after calling them “c*nts” and “motherf*ckers?” Indeed it does. But a heroine she is and one of the finest pre-teen role models Hollywood’s come up with in a long, long time. So powerfully written and realized is this pint-sized, two-fisted ball of righteous vengeance that one of her more heroic feats is saving “Kick-Ass” all on her own even though she’s only a supporting player.

The central story is a fairly weak one that revolves around Dave (Aaron Johnson), one of those typically awkward Hollywood movie teens with a crush on a girl way above his league and part of a trio of nerdy friends enamored with comic books and victimized by bullies. Dave can’t understand why no one’s ever decided to man up and become a superhero. After all, there’s no law against it and all you need is a costume and the guts, right?
Well, kind of. Tired of being bullied and eager to boost his own self-esteem, after costuming himself in a rubber wetsuit, Dave becomes Kick Ass, a masked avenger seeking to right wrongs on the mean streets of New York. His problem of course is that beneath all that rubber he’s still Dave, a wimp with no formal superhero training. Disaster looms but from afar someone’s watching; a real superhero with real training: Big Daddy (a marvelous Nicolas Cage), a caped crusader who dresses like Batman, talks like Adam West, and knows the kid’s a fool but admires his grit.
When we initially meet Big Daddy, he’s Damon, a soft-spoken, milquetoast of a man firing a bullet into the chest of his eleven year-old daughter Mindy (Chloe Moretz). The bullet-proof vest she wears might save her life but doesn’t lessen the impact, and she flies off screen, gets up, dusts herself off, and asks for more. Damon and Mindy might have a sweet, loving, father-daughter relationship but Big Daddy and Hit Girl are on a deadly serious mission to lay a reckoning on the city’s most powerful gangster and drug dealer, Frank D’Amico. And it’s when the story focuses here and not on the overly-familiar story involving Dave, that “Kick-Ass” comes alive. But when both stories do finally come together you have yourself some pure movie nirvana.
In an age when Hollywood peddles nihilism as a major food group, I’m sympathetic to those who were knee-jerk disgusted upon hearing about the words put into a young actresses mouth. My first reaction was to write the film off as yet another example of our Tinseltown cretins once again pushing the envelope for the sake of pushing the envelope. The whole idea bored me. Two things, however, convinced me to duck into an early Saturday matinee and give it a chance.
The first is director Matthew Vaughn, the helmer behind “Stardust,” one of the most under-rated, romantic, sincere and un-ironic, non-religious fantasy films to come out in a long time. Like Zack Snyder (“300,” “Watchmen”) and Christopher Nolan (“The Dark Knight,” “Insomnia”), Vaughn is worth watching – part of a new breed of talented commercial filmmakers who understands great storytelling requires weaving classic (but complicated) themes of heroism, redemption, and self-sacrifice into their work. The second was Roger Ebert’s pan of the film based solely on his moral outrage towards the Hit Girl character. Like many leftists, Ebert frequently confuses his ideology with morality. Something was up.
And something was.

Everywhere on MTV, the Disney Channel and elsewhere you’ll find young sanctimonious, sexualized young girls given the mission of teaching their fellow tweens that narcissism is some kind of value. The stunning self-involvement and respect for nothing constantly on parade in our entertainment culture is a kind of toxic heroin mainlined into our youth as a way of keeping them forever with their hands out; victims eternally convinced the world owes them something just because it’s good for their self-esteem. Their value to the left is incalculable. These attractive human vacancies are reliable spouters of left-wing talking points, picking up right where the selfish boomers left off.
Given the choice between exposing a young, impressionable mind to this kind of corrosive ideology and the themes swirling around Hit Girl should be a no brainer for parents with children over the age of 15.
Our purple-wigged heroine might have a crude way of expressing her complete contempt and full-throated disgust for bad guys, but she’s dignified, heroic, selfless, completely self-reliant, and lives by a simple code that says evil loses. No angst, no handwringing, and no moral equivalency. Appeasers debate tactics. Heroes understand the vast moral gulf between those who target the innocent and those who target those who target the innocent. And unlike the tweens on Disney and MTV, Hit Girl’s not eroticized.
“Kick Ass” also happens to be a uniquely exhilarating experience, every minute of it used to expertly set up an unforgettable third act climax that might have used Ennio Morricone’s “Per Qualche Dollaro in Piu” from Sergio Leone’s “For A Few Dollars More” better than “For A Few Dollars More.”
Part “Watchmen,” part “Dark Knight,” “Kick-Ass” represents iconoclastic filmmaking at its best and not because of the shocking language spouted by a pre-teen, but because this pre-teen stands for something – the kind of something that tears at the Hollywood lefts’ tired pillars of nihilism and apathy, and in the process offends all the right people.






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Your review has a refreshing honest ring to it. It is good to hear things said like that from time to time. I hope that word of mouth can bring in some dollars for the movie while it is still in theaters but then it might not. There is always the DVD Market where a lot of movies do better and make more money than the theatrical release but I hope that this one can do well now so that all involved get the proper recognition.
It's probably a false choice to chose between pre-teen profanity and Disney/MTV pre-teen sexualization…
But I sure do agree with the damaging nature of most of what is produced for tweens on television. The stuff that's supposed to be "wholesome" or "educational" is almost worse. The "lessons" are bad ones, almost always.
I don't really think you understand the movie.
The whole point of the movie "Kick-Ass" is to show that superheroes are nothing but fascist vigilantes.
But, yeah, keep on thinking that it's a "conservative" or "libertarian" movie while one of the main characters is an ex-cop who's turned his daughter into a murdering monster.
I think alot of people have been turned off by the liberal reviews of the movie decrying that hit girl drops an F-bomb. When me and my wife went, we were two of eight people in the theater…. disappointing for such a refreshing take on the hero genre. While it does have the stark differences between good and evil, it also has the stark consequences of trying to stop evil… there are consequences, and I'm glad this movie didn't shy away from that.
The second was Roger Ebert’s pan of the film based solely on his moral outrage towards the Hit Girl character. Like many leftists, Ebert frequently confuses his ideology with morality. Something was up."
For this reason alone I will support the film.
Ok, I've heard enough positives. I'll go see it, since everyone can't be wrong
Glad to read a positive review outide of the comic book community realm. I was a late-comer to the actual comic book source material this film came from an only bought the 2nd priniting of the first issue. The series from Icon Comics was already a hit best seller on its third issue. I am a Conservative and a longtime comic book collector and aspiring artist but am not really a big fan of violence in comic books. Many popular comics today are dark and very violent. Its ironic that the comic book industry and its fanbase are made up mostly of Liberals and Progressive Liberals yet love thier violence and gunplay just like Liberal Hollywood.
Many fans say the film is better that the comic book, which is pretty rare praise coming from hard-core fanboys and fangirls. The character that stole the show was indeed Hit Girl and the young actress did a standout job. . This is the type of film we want shown to countries and people who dispise the US, call us infedel, etc. Its a joy when directors like Vaughn know the source material well.
Honestly, my brothers and I use equally horrible language on a regular and have done so regularly before we hit 10 or whatever age Hit Girl is in the film. Big whoop.
As one of those who was "knee-jerk disgusted upon hearing about the words put into a young actresses mouth" and has been saying so in threads here, I was initially very interested in the movie and I'm pretty sure I'd enjoy it quite a bit if I ignore the uneasy feeling I got watching the red band trailer. There are all sorts of things that are enjoyable if you ignore something. For example, gladiatorial combat filled stadiums and I'm sure it would still entertain plenty of people (since it does in movies) if people ignored the fact that real people were dying. Similarly, a friend who has gone to strip clubs pointed out that he couldn't think about the women as people because thinking about their lives and imagining how they wound up doing that for a living was depressing. So that's my problem here. Do we ignore the morally troubling elements of entertainment because we enjoy the final product when we do? Do the positive themes of the movie Kick-Ass and the entertainment quality of the final product justify putting those words into the mouth of an 11 year-old girl? What's the cost of ignoring those morally troubling elements for ourselves and others?
I'd rather my 15 year old daughter watch this than anything on the Disney Channel.
When word of this movie first came out I was looking forward to seeing it big time. It looked like a really fun time. Then the news of a 12 year old girl using language that would make a sailor blush gave me pause. It made me think about myself as a kid at that age and my friends. We were all vulgar and profane (just not around the parents). I would be a hypocrite if I said the language from that kid would keep me away from this movie.
Count me in…
The character of Kick Ass…eh
The character of Red MIst…eh
Hit Girl and Big Daddy completely steal the film and make it worth seeing multiple times. The action set-pieces with Hit Girl are amazing but equally effective is the quiet scene with the hot chocolate, which is incredibly touching, and shows just how good a job Chloe Moretz and Nic Cage did with their characters. I read that most of the deleted scenes feature Hit Girl and Big Daddy, so I can't wait to see them on DVD. If you're on the fence, go see this movie.
Is it the audience's fault that the movie has done worse than expected or is the fault of those who made the movie for pushing the envelope and creating a hard-R superhero movie? Didn't Watchmen suffer from similar problems? Would the story and theme of the movie really have suffered all that much if they had toned it down to a PG-13, as apparently many studios they pitched the product to suggested, thus increasing the audience willing and able to see the movie? If the makers of the movie wanted to shock, should they be surprised that they shocked people enough to stay away?
Anyone who supports child exploitation, murder and depravity will reap what they sow on the last day. I don't like pedophiles or pedophile directors.
We're going to see this on Saturday, all because of the two BigHollywood reviews. You guys should get paid by the studios for promotion.
If you need another clue to the politics behind the film, Matthew Vaughan has directed political ads for the British Conservative Party.
I loved this movie and I recomended it for my friends to see but they didn't like it. I thought it was going to be like superbad or one of those movies that everyone say is funny but it's really not, but this movie was actually funny! I was laughing the entire time and I rarely laugh at movies like these. I recommend everyone to go see it. I enjoyed it
this movie has nothing to do with child exploitation or pedoohiles….what movie did you see?
Yeah I did the same thing when I was young, thinking I was cool. When I saw it I was unaware of the language or the extreme violence and I was shocked but it did not take me out of the movie. Enjoy the movie Hank.
Like many leftists, Ebert frequently confuses his ideology with morality.
No truer words have been spoken.
The difference is that you didn't have an adult paying you to say it to entertain others. That is the same thing that makes prostitution different from sex. In another discussion about this movie on Big Hollywood, a person compared this performance to Linda Blair's performance in the Exorcist, another case of an good movie where an actress was asked to say and do some pretty awful and/or adult things to make it. I found an interview with Linda Blair where she discusses the experience [url
The difference is that you didn't have an adult paying you to say it to entertain others. That is the same thing that makes prostitution different from sex. In another discussion about this movie on Big Hollywood, a person compared this performance to Linda Blair's performance in the Exorcist, another case of an good movie where an actress was asked to say and do some pretty awful and/or adult things to make it. I found an interview with Linda Blair where she discusses the experience [url
Kick-Ass was better then the Herold and Kumar Escape from Gitmo. I won't watch that "film" again. I feel like I need a mental Silkwood shower after that movie. I may buy Kick-Ass DVD when it comes out. Like Watchmen, it has several good points.
You do know that the Conservative party is center-left these days, don't you?
The movie was good. Very entertaining. However, it was odd to see several parents with children in the 12 and under age bracket at an R-rated movie! I heard one mother complaining about the language and violence on the way out of the theater AFTER seeing the entire film. If the movie was so bad – why the hell sit through the entire film.
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Having correct political views or a film having correct political views does not a good film make. Any good that may be in the film is crushed by the base and crass nature of the film.
Is the low turnout the fault of reviewers and those offended by the language in the red band trailer or is it the fault of the filmmakers who were asked by several of the studios that they approached to tone it down and make it a PG-13 movie? Didn't Watchmen suffer from the same problem for similar reasons? Would it have destroyed the movie (it's story and themes) to tone down the language and violence to increase the audience with a more adolescent-friendly rating?
By the way, I finally watched Watchmen on an international flight where some of the more shocking material had been edited out (e.g., the graphic sex and blue penis) and I don't think it hurt the story any and might have made it better for me. If it doesn't hurt the movie to leave it out and it alienates part of the audience, why is it there?
John, I'm glad to hear you saw value in this as well. It seems we traveled the same trajectory as far as initial disgust, giving it a chance, and falling in love with it – especially the Hit Girl character. Man, I hope there's a sequel – and I can't tell you how long it's been since I said that!
Or ABC Family….. every male character on these tween shows is a superficial, jock-ish, hornball, and most of the female characters are, for lack of a better term, whores. Sex seems to be the only "issue" they are able to deal with.
Kids cursing seems kind of lame in comparison…
Cool but tell me again what point is served in the movie with having an 11 year old girl use language like that?
It's a fantastic film! If Dirty Harry mated with La Femme Nikita, you'd get HIT GIRL. Go. See this movie. I promise it will be the most entertaining film you see all year.
It's rated-R. Any parent stupid enough, or clueless enough, to bring kids to a movie like this (there were a bunch of tikes at my showing too) is part of the problem in this country. The notion of "appropriate" seems to be passe in this country today…
I haven't seen the movie. I almost certainly will not see the movie. I don't particularly like to hear profanity from actors of any age. I believe that profanity is very seldom really needed.
There was a 1981 movie, “The Four Seasons” that, to me, was completely ruined by the language. People don’t talk like that. (To be honest, maybe they just don’t talk like that around me.)
Loved the movie… and will see it again tomorrow! "That's a funny sounding bazooka!" LMAO
No, no, no – this isn't the Roman Polanski film. You went into the wrong theatre!
What is the point of cursing in any movie, by people of any age? Could have something to do with authenticity and the way (for better or worse) language is spoken in our culture.
BTW, She's 13
Her bad language (and Dad'd lack of concern) were used to show that her childhood and upbringing were NOT the normal American teenager's. Really, she only uses profanity a few times, mostly in the beginning – it's to give the audience a little kick, give them a glimpse of her rougher backstory.
Sounds like he saw Hounddog
Put it better than I did…
That was my initial question too. What could that possibly do to move a story along? But without actually seeing the movie it's tough to know.
Thanks for your review John – I'd been tempted to see Kick-Ass when I saw the trailer and now I think we'll go on saturday
People don’t talk like that. (To be honest, maybe they just don’t talk like that around me.)
I'm inclined to believe the latter, and on a related note, I envy you.
"When it comes to films, the least of my concerns is content. The stuff that’s in a movie has very little to do with its theme — what a story wants to tell the world — and that’s where a filmmaker is most likely to win or lose me."
And that's why it bothers me when folks say we need more family-friendly programming. I certainly have nothing against such programming but there seems to be this idea that something that's family-friendly is also by definition conservative and that simply isn't true.
On the other hand, there's also an idea that something can't be conservative if it isn't family-friendly. That is also not true. I guess it goes back to the old "form vs. content" debate.
Oh my goodness girls are the worst at what comes out of their lipsticked mouth's!!! Have you been around them lately, I'm so tired of sexing up the girls is ok but if they do anything else OH NO. They all do this that's how they learn. Most women grow up and decide they get the attention they want when they don't say those things. We need to stop pretending to think this doesn't happen and deal when it does, kids listen to you. That mother walking out dissing the language is supposed to say that, that's what makes her a good mom.
On one hand, yes, we on occasion let our kids (two 14 and under) see R-rated movies. Sometimes. Where my wife and I had already seen them and could disuss the themes, etc. and the movie was otherwise appropriate/etc. At home. On DVD.
In the theaters? WTF?
'Everywhere on MTV, the Disney Channel and elsewhere you’ll find young sanctimonious, sexualized young girls given the mission of teaching their fellow tweens that narcissism is some kind of value.' I would add it also portrays adults, particularly parents as slow, clueless and deserving of contempt or ridicule.
It's easy to avoid this, don't pay for it, don't have these cable channels in your home if you have kids. I didn't and I think my kids are far better off for not having had the influence of Disney/MTV/Cartoon Network etc.
…so was the girl raped by Roman Polanski (jus' sayin')…
Very thoughtful comment. The truth is…how a story is told can degrade the culture as much as the story itself. Maybe more, since our affirmation of the story (good defeats bad, etc.) opens us to that which degrades. I think in old Hollywood they understood that, and their products weren't too shabby. It has been time and time again, you can have powerful story-telling and good taste, too. Just how far do we sink for a good time?
That's the rub: they're movies you and your wife have already been able to consider.
There were toddlers at my theater, not teens, or even tweens… toddlers. I forget who the comedian was who said it, but it's kinda weird you need a license to do almost anything in this country… but not for bearing ultimate responsibility over another human life. Not implying we should make prospective parents take tests (last thing we need is another gov bureaucracy), just saying that there are alot of idiots out there reproducing
"Given the choice between exposing a young, impressionable mind to this kind of corrosive ideology and the themes swirling around Hit Girl should be a no brainer for parents with children over the age of 15."
There is an additional choice. Teach them yourself and do not rely on the entertainment and news industries to do so. Take an active part in the forming the worldview of your children and when you encounter a situation whether in real life or presented in the media that can be used as a teaching moment then do so.
I have been reading and commenting at this site since soon after its launch. I have always enjoyed Mr. Nolte's reviews and commentaries on movies and entertainment but this one leaves me disappointed. While I agreee that the offerings for tweens that issue from Disney or Nickelodeon or CW or even ABC Family cannot be commended for this dreck to be presented as a positive alternative is, to me, beyond the pale.
It seems that we live in a much harder world than the one we were born into. I love toughness when it is backed by doing (true) good and selflessness. I can let the language slide because it is a very real part of this time. We will have to fight like hell to preserve this country and I for one, have decided to cast aside my delicate sensibilities for a more warrior like countenance. I am ready to kick some ass myself. Hope we all are.
So, to you, rape and bad language are part of the same conversation? Really?
My negative response to a foul-mouthed Hit Girl is far from a knee-jerk reaction. On one level, I consider the exploitation of children for cheap comedic affect to be somewaht disturbing, especially as society becomes more accepting. Nor do I allow my children to watch the over-sexualized teens you mentioned on Disney and Nick. Both a wrong and both lower the standard society once held for women.
On the cinematic level, what does a foul-mouthed Hit Girl contribute to the story or to the character? Does it contribute or distract from the themes you mentioned? Does it make her more tough and strong? If so then every punk with bad language is tough and strong. Does it show agnst? What is its purpose other than to shock the audience and in this case turn so many off?
***If you are an adult conservative, you should go and see this movie. I have posted on other columns about the sex and swearing and how it was unnecessary. The underlying themes in the movie, however, led me to go and see the movie a second time. I have to say I had goosebumps at certain points on the second viewing of the film. Dennis Prager has often said that lefties always aim for the ugly, the vulgar and the disgusting when it comes to art. There is some of that here. However, the higher level of art portrayed in the film, courage, grief, standing up to evil, determination, are all shown in this movie in the characters of Hit-girl and Big-daddy. They portray these human traits really well. If you do not give this movie a chance, you will miss something really good.
Speaking of Britsh politics, anyone know of a group in the UK that could be considered the English equivalent to our conservative group?
I dunno. While the Dave part of the story was a Peter Parker rehash and has been done before, I thought it still clever. Where John saw 'both stories finally coming together you have yourself some pure movie nirvana', I saw a movie run out of story and devolve into a 45 minute long generic revenge scene.
If you are a conservative adult, you should see this movie. Dennis prager has always said that leftist artists too often go for the ugly, the disgusting and the vulgar. This movie has some of that because, after all it comes from hollywood. However, the deeper level of the human experience that art can reach and portray, courage, grief, determination in tragedy, are all in this movie. I was reluctant about this movie because of the aforementioned concerns, the sex and language. I have seen this movie twice, and on the second viewing I still got goosebumps in two particularly good scenes involving Hit-girl and Big-daddy. Give this movie a chance, try to look past the juvenile parts and see the really good parts. It is not for kids, but it does have value.
No – just different levels of aggression (rape, obviously more so). There are kids in my neighborhood, the same age as this girl in the movie, who use profanity and obscenity in their casual conversations with their friends. These kids tend to be rude and disrespectful, and are often quick to respond with physical violence if they feel that someone has "dissed" them. People who aren't shy about being verbally aggressive (through the liberal use of profanity and obscenities) not infrequently get physically aggressive.
She was 11 when she did the movie.
We may have a different definition of "stuff". It's generally what I think of as "plot" and that is something that I do not divorce from "theme". And when I am expected to pay $10 for "stuff", I prefer "stuff" where the exponents of power are not viciousness and vulgarity – certainly not when those are the characters that I (okay, not I, but a young viewer) am supposed to be identifying with. I understand that young viewers, who may feel inherently powerless will identify with anything – wizards, vampires, et. al – that gives them the illusion of it. But I also know how likely they are to imitate what they see. And if your response is that this is an 'R' rated film and viewers under 17 are not admitted, you need to get out more.
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….Mindy sure sounds a lot like Podkayne in your review….
And that's a result of poor parenting. I was crude and vilgar at that age too. But if I dared utter something profane around my parents or any adult I'd get my ass kicked.
And I've actually found the opposite. When someone talks like some movie tough guy with bad language they often turn out to be complete wuss-bags when it's go time.
Do you think Hit Girl would take out doctors who perform abortions? Do you think she should take out a socialist president? I'm only wondering because Disney doesn't offer proper role-models to children today and I rely on TV/movies to provide them.
When I hear about these movies that have an interesting premise, but are liberally sprinkled with profane & obscene language, I always ask why
I tried to love Stardust, but it just didn't work for me…I think it was the bland leads.
So…the evil, leftist, quisling, anti-all-that-is-right-and-good Hollywood Machine made…a conservative, moral movie..?
I thought by 15 most kids are done with the Disney channel.
A child assassin is a good role model?!
Agreed. Language and actions are not on the same level. Sticks and stones….
John, respectfully, you've set up a false dichotomy: Should we choose hypersexualized, vulgar liberal MTV role models for kids OR hyper-violent, hyper-vulgar conservative ones?
I'll take neither, please. How's that for a third option? Or perhaps a fourth, more positive one: Tell the story without violating a child to do so, and frame it knowing that kids will want to see it. So respectfully refrain from violating that audience (or their parents).
You know full well that the themes you trumpet in this movie could have been realized in a telling that didn't highlight hyperviolence and extreme vulgarity played out by a little girl. Sadly your first sentence ("…the least of my concerns is content.") doesn't make you seem erudite; as the editor of a site that claims its goal is to reclaim the culture from liberalism, it makes you seem irresponsible.
Yeah, I've seen that too. What I've seen several times is that, when some mook tries to get physical with someone who has complained about his "potty-mouth" or some other inappropriate behavior, he'll stop after his physical attacks have been countered with one or two solid punches or kicks (then he'll whine, "Geez! Why 'ja have to do that, man?")
BTW, it takes a couple years for a movie to be produced and released. She was 11 when it was made.
BTW, what difference do those 2 years make? Would you find it acceptable if ANY woman of any age used the "C" word that way?
Think she'd take out a CEO or banker? Or how about just rich people? Because everyone knows rich people are to blame for everything, right?
I have to rely on MSNBC and the White House for my role models…
I think your points are all well-taken.
What I would say in reply is that, in context, the profanity is necessary to the Hit Girl character. Furthermore, Hit Girl's profanity is not glamorized, and Hit Girl is not shown as a desirable role model or life-style for girls, even though Hit Girl is clearly a heroine.
The profanity didn't impress me as especially objectionable. The most objectionable elements were the explicit torture sequences and the very explicit masturbation jokes. This movie is not suitable for younger teens for those reasons, IMHO.
Thanks DH, I'm looking forward to seeing this movie. I totally agree with your stance that content doesn't always dictate theme; If filmmakers need foul language from a young girl to disguise a movie with a strong moral compass, so be it. Liberals have been smuggling liberal viewpoints into movies by disguising it under conservative content for a long time.
It doesn't really matter if conservatives see this movie or are turned off by the foul language. The point is for liberals and the older teenage children of liberals to see the movie and get the anti-nihilistic message however you see it smuggled in to their mind. The same way liberals have been smuggling nihilism and moral equivalency messages into the culture for the past 30 years.
Go! See the lions maul the slaves! It's abso-freakin-lutely redunculous! Nero's an amazing director. It's even better in 3D! (Unless, of course, you're one of those people who consider content… Sheesh, losers.)
When someone starts cussing someone else out, the conversation usually ends when the recipient of the bad language says a simple phrase:
"Let's step outside and talk about it…."
Honestly, children small enough aren't going to notice, if by toddler you mean two or three years. And sometimes parents simply need to get out of the house. If the toddlers aren't being disruptive, I have less of a problem with toddlers in an inappropriate movie than with slightly older kids… children in the "children" stage between toddler and puberty. Once they're old enough to notice and follow what is up on the screen the fact that they don't have the ability to process what is going on is going to matter more.
But honestly… my parents had to take me out of a Snoopy movie because I became hysterical when Linus lost his blanket. A lot of what is made specifically for kids is downright terrifying to them.
So what does that say about the Big Daddy character in the movie if his daughter is acting that way?
Having read Nolte's review, it's clear that he believes children are at mercy to TV/film for role-models.
I disputed this. MSNBC falls into the category of "TV." I wish you were as clever as you thought you were.
I don't fully understand what you mean when you write, "the exponents of power."
However, in the structure of the story, Hit Girl is supposed to be somewhat repellent. I think the profanity is calculated in part to produce this effect. Viewers are not supposed to identify with Hit Girl. I agree that younger viewers may do so, which is why parents shouldn't take younger children.
But others in this thread have argued that the language she used is realistic for children her age. Now which is it? Son the only children who use profanity are those that have a rough backstory?
You write, "You know full well that the themes you trumpet in this movie could have been realized in a telling that didn't highlight hyperviolence and extreme vulgarity played out by a little girl."
I respectfully disagree. But this is not immediately apparent from Mr. Nolte's review, because Mr. Nolte does not explore the themes from the film.
From your note, I presume that you haven't seen "Kick Ass", will not see it, and are drawing your judgments from the movie trailers and from reviews. Is my presumption correct?
I don't get wound up in a tizzy when people use words. When they actually DO something, I bristle. It is the purview of the kid's parents, and them alone, to determine whether or not her script lines were appropriate. They seemed to do a good job, as Moretz is on record stating that her parents would have her grounded if she said anything from the movie at home. She won't even say the movie's name in interviews. She actually sounds a lot more mature than the "nannies" worried about the script's language.
My biggest issue with "family friendly" is that it seems like people turn off their brains. Something is made for kids or rated G or something and few seem to bother to examine what is being communicated by the show.
This is why my kids weren't allowed to watch The Proud Family. It's why I cringe at Animal Planet programming. (And I do mean *programming*.) The "tween" school-and-friends shows are almost uniformly horrendous.
It's no wonder, actually, that people burst a vein when Miley Cyrus is caught in some minor error. They've got a NEED to not have to pay attention, so when attention is gotten they get testy about it.
What does the profanity say about her character? Mr. Nolte and Mr. Lee both portrayed her as a role model. Were they wrong in their assessment?
Moby.
I'm calling BS.
It says that this character isn't a good parent when it comes to curbing his daughter's language around adults.
Now, I haven't seen the movie yet, does Hit Girl go around beating people up for no reason? Or does she save her aggressive behavior for the bad guys only?
It shows how her childhood was robbed by a drug-dealer. The role-model piece comes into play in context of the fact that she wasn't then portrayed as a victim who needed some government bureaucrat to save her. Just a father…
She goes around hunting drug dealers… for good reason
All kids curse. If you think they don't, you probably haven't crossed paths with many. That's reality in 2010 (and 1910, I'd be willing to bet).
The movie isn't reality. It is limited in scope, therefore some exaggerated language was used to expeditiously make a point that the girl had her childhood robbed in the backstory.
Personally I thought Kick Ass sucked Ass. But that's just me.
Nope. I've posted under Jessup and vatz, but not Moby.
I am still not sure how profanity equals character development or at least positive character development. She uses profanity because a drug dealer robbed her of her childhood. So all children who use profanity were robbed of their childhood? Where is the connection? If the writers are using profanity as a character device then it is a lazy one and does not fit the norm, especially if it is true that children all now use profanity as some commentators argue.
". . . the kind of something that tears at the Hollywood lefts’ tired pillars of nihilism and apathy, and in the process offends all the right people."
As I said in another thread, it is positively Nitzschean.
I love the film, and I hope the actress goes on to become a major action star based on this role.
Well actually neither of us knows exactly what type of father Big Daddy is. He could be deficient in the language department, but it seems like he's taught her right from wrong in the grand scheme of things, no? Otherwise she would be going around putting people in the hospital just for being too slow in the lunch line.
Maybe this character puts less emphasis on bad language so he can focus his daughter on more important matters like fighting crime and helping innocent people.
That's why we need to actually see the movie to better understand why she is the way she is and how exactly her father fits in her life. He may very well be a loving father.
Disagree. He was a very caring father in the movie, but he was also consumed by the death of his wife…. or put another way, the girl's "mother", from whom stems much of the "sweet and loving" side of child rearing. Not to say single parents can't raise good children, but the girl's shortcomings in the script just happen to be in the areas that normally fall to mothers. The self-reliance, loyalty, and sense of right and wrong that Hit-girl clearly possessed were taught by her (limited, but good-intentioned) father. IMO.
Your two points contradict each other. Pt. 1 = All kids curse so cursing is normal. Pt. 2 = The use of such profanity by Hit Girl demonstrates that her childhood was not normal (robbed of it by a drug dealer). How can it be normal but still demonstrate abnormality?
On a side note, "normality" does not make something right or acceptable. The leftist tilt in Hollywood is normal but all of us here do not consider it to be right or acceptable.
Yes, "themes of heroism, redemption, and self-sacrifice" can be realized without highlighting "hyper-violence and extreme vulgarity."
"Gandhi" comes to mind, among others.
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