James Cameron: ‘Like the Redneck NRA Supporters They Are’
by John Nolte
This appears to be accurate. Both Ain’t It Cool News and JoBlo.com have posted James Cameron’s full “Avatar” script. To triple-check I went to the 20th Century-Fox site and found that they posted the same script, as well. After being as careful as possible (wouldn’t want to smear Cameron like he did the U.S. Marines. NOTE for Leftist hair-splitters: former Marines), I bring you a scene written by James Cameron that was cut from the final film but serves as a glimpse at the director’s childish prejudices and mindset:
INT. ARMOR BAY – DAY
TROOPERS issue automatic weapons and magazines to a long line of mine workers. The miners lock and load like the redblooded redneck NRA supporters they are.
BLASTING TECHS are setting radio-detonated primer charges into two-ton stacks of EXPLOSIVE COMPOUND. The stacks are band-strapped together on pallets.
TRACKING WITH SELFRIDGE, staring around him in growing dismay as he walks through the full-scale mobilization. He approaches Quaritch, who is barking orders amid a hive of activity around the ampsuits.
SELFRIDGE
This thing is completely out of control!Quaritch ignores him, turning away to focus on ordnance loading.
SELFRIDGE
Listen to me! I am not authorizing you to turn the mine-workers local into a freakin’ militia!
QUARITCH
I declared threat condition red. That puts all on-world assets under my command.SELFRIDGE
You think you can pull this palace coup shit on me?! I can have your ass with one call –Quaritch grabs him and PINS him against the side of an ampsuit.
QUARITCH
You’re a long way from Earth.Selfridge is paralyzed. Physical force — against him? Quaritch releases him and walks away.
Emphasis was mine…
Hmm… Looks as though those “redneck NRA” supporting miners were just as eager as the U.S. Marines (NOTE for Leftist hair-splitters: former Marines) to commit a genocide against innocents starting with a 9/11-style terrorist atrocity on the Na’Vi Home Tree which Cameron intentionally filmed to look like the attack on the World Trade Center… only this time committed by U.S. Marines (NOTE for leftist hair-splitters former Marines).
More proof that “Avatar” is anti-American? Well, maybe in Cameron’s mind those bloodthirsty mineworkers are “redblooded” Frenchman or supporters of the Scottish NRA.
More proof that “Avatar” is anti-Military (NOTE for Leftist hair-splitters: anti-former Military)? Wherever would someone get that idea?
UPDATE: A statement from James Cameron — “I regret my choice of language in the Avatar screenplay. Unfortunately, the script was locked before I could add the word teabagger.” — Okay, I made that up.
You can see the full script here. The scene above can be found on page 125.
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Better a red-blooded, red-neck NRA supporter than an aging lesbian look-alike leftist squish.
Much, much, MUCH BETTER.
once again, the conflicted loonery of Jimmy 'The Thief' Cameron comes to the fore…
For someone obsessed with bad military types and NRA gunowners he cannot get enough of two things:
1) The military. The conflicted vision of either an omnipotent military (Skynet) or a disfunctional one (Michael
Biehn's psychotic SEAL in the Abyss) is a recurring theme
2) Guns- and LOT's of them. They are everywhere in his work and he loves to see 'em shoot. And blow up.
He glorifies violence- sexes it up- as much as any director we have ever seen. Even the non-lethal violence committed against the Police in 'T2' was executed with zeal and obvious glee.
He is, as we have maintained all along, a technogeek with a Canuck's fear- and admiration- for the US hyperpower and the writing skills of a nine year old…
Note to liberal hair-splitters. Once you earn the title you never give it up (unless you're Lee Harvey Oswald — the only ex-Marine). The "former" qualifier is something we add only because it is easier than saying "Not on active duty." So if you bash a Marine ("former" or not) you are bashing Marines and the Corps.
I developed the attitude like that with network news. This does not really surprise me and shrug my shoulders and move on. I knew this movie was going to suck from the first clips and trailers and all I can do is not spend my hard earned money on it.
Anyone that lives in or near the Coastal Santa Monica Mountains for a while has experienced 'The Attitude'. The creatures are not good neighbors and backseat bigots in real life.
It doesn't change the fact that the film's hero is *also* a "former" Marine, and Sully isn't the only one with a heroic role (cf. Chacón). So to say that Cameron depicts Marines (or "former" Marines) *only* in a bad light is simply false. It's a lie.
There is one other ex-Marine: Sen. John Murtha…a disgrace to The Corps.
But… but .. I was told the yare not even Americans?
you could probably throw Jeremiah Wright in there as well. But Murtha called his former brothers 'murderers'. There is a special ring in hell for him just for that…
Canadians don't "fear" the states so get that out of your head. Where the hell do you think a giant chunk of your nuclear tech came from? We do have major wood for weaponry basically because our government won't allow us to own much of the fun to shoot stuff. We do hunt more so than Americans per capita so the basics are there for a gun loving populas. There's a very good reason why Canadian shootists hold records and it has nothing to do with pacifism.
Ask yourself this question: As Canada is a left leaning country where right-wing Conservatives are identical to Blue Dog Democrats, then their filmmakers being left leaning greenies is to be expected but if America is nearly 40% seriously Conservative then why the nearly none existent conservative filmmakers?
But don't you dare ever question James Cameron's patriotism.
He can smear Marines all he wants. We can't criticize his smear-job.
Those are the Left's rules of discourse.
I agree. Add to that the fact that only one of his films is an "original" piece, but that's probably what you meant by 'the thief', didn't you?
"The Terminator" has a mundane, naive story, and the only real innovation is the Terminator itself, a new character archetype, and Schwarzenegger's portrayal of that role. "Aliens" is a sequel, not original. "Terminator 2" is a sequel, not original. "True Lies" is a remake, not original. "Titanic" is based on a popular and much dissected historical event. "Avatar" is the embodiment of derivative. Only "The Abyss" seems to be an original piece by Cameron, and it's admittedly his worst film.
he tries to have it both ways. See above…
I stand corrected.
As for the "like the redblooded redneck NRA supporters they are" item, is there anything more Hollywood than that line? I don't think so. If Hollywood required a slogan to sum up their own fear and loathing of fellow Americans, that would be it.
Wright was probably a cook. (Infantrymen get the joke.)
Right. But in order to have a dramatic conflict, you need a protagonistic *and* an antagonistic force. Every story needs to have it both ways. And if that story is set in a corporate-military environment of "former" Marines, then you can't avoid that some military will be the antagonists. But that's simply what's called plot & story.
No, they (i.e., Sully and Chacón) are merely a sop to the over-arching theme that the only good Marine (NOTE for Leftist hair-splitters: former Marines) is a dead Marine.
Sully and Chacón are the so-called good Nazis that frequently iin WW2 flicks that try to mitigate the atrocities, mass murder, and war crimes committed by the Third Reich (Sorry, Oliver Stone, for speaking the truth about Hitler and his henchmen).
This scene was shot. You can see Quaritch choking Selfridge in one of the TV spots. For some reason it was not in the theatrical release. But, don't worry, I'm sure Tokyo Rose Cameron will include this scene in the Director's Cut DVD. Maybe he'll take a shot at Palin while he's at it.
Can't wait for an "uncompromising" look at Hiroshimo. Not. Cameron has jumped the shark – irregardless how much dough his films make from here on out. He's the new George Lucas = all special effects, no story, and childish, petulant, partisan attacks on people he disagrees with, usually Chimpy McBushHitler.
<<why the nearly none existent conservative filmmakers?>>
Because it takes money to make movies, as well as distribution, and Hollywood has a lock on both.
It will take replacing the entire infrastructure from the ground up for conservative filmmakers to have access to the marketplace.
But conservatives abdicated their place and their influence, allowing the whole schmere to be liberalized. That's our fault.
Well said…..
Megan Fox's thoughts excactly, assuming her sweet little brain has the nuron capacity to generate a thought.
I can't believe I contributed to these anti-american loon by watching Titanic! Mr. Cameron you are a traitor.
As a veteran of Air America operations in Thailand during the Vietnam war, I wanted to give my perspective on the portrayal of the former Marines in this film. Although I was rooting for the blue people in the film as Cameron clearly intended, I still admired the Marines. The dedication, willingness to die for their assigned mission, cohesiveness, selfless attitude are things the military absolutely needs to function in war. These men were the "bad guys" in this movie, but they showed qualities which we should be proud of in our war-fighters. I was left with the (not-unexpected) Hollywood approach to war (it is never justified for any reason), and the dismissal of traditional American values (patriotism, love of country) as simple-minded and jingoistic. But these fighters were tough, and did the job they were supposed to do regardless of the odds. I admired them.
perhaps. But it could done with considerably more style- and substance if done by a talented writer…
ho!
we sure do…
At least run a current picture of the man–Cameron is currently fatter & beardless.
That's simply apologetics for your right-wing bias. You seem to want everything to be black&white. But it's a fact that there *were* good Nazis, as there were evil allies.
So to say that Sully & Chacón are only a means to mitigate "former" Marines' atrocities in Avatar is simply false. They are good Marines… sorry, good "former" Marines.
Look to the upside: Rednecks and the NRA will still be around in the 22nd century!
I bet Cameron was this close to giving them Lynyrd Skynyrd t-shirts.
God and guns
Keep us strong
That's what this country
Was founded on
Well we might as well give up and run
If we let them take our God and guns
and he stole all the plot lines to The Terminator from Harlan Ellison and two 'Outer Limits' episodes, 'Soldier' and 'The Glass Hand'.
THAT's why we call him 'the thief'…
Make that some Canucks, eh, hoser! Personally, I'll kick your butt or give it a good try next time we meet! Ya ever hear of Vimy Ridge, pal? No, I guess not, you guys were still sleeping. How do I know you yanks aren't just jealous that a Canuck (even an idiot Canuck) has the #1 movie … evah! : )
He looks a little like Larry Bird
Hate to insult Bird like that…hey if you tell the guys at the Bird Road Arbetters that you love Larry Bird, you get a free beverage refill
awesomes
Down went the gun-ner, a bul – let was his fate
Down went the gun-ner, and then the gun-ner's mate
Up jumped the sky pi-lot, gave the boys a look
And manned the gun him-self as he laid a-side TheBook, shout-ing:
"Praise The Lord, and pass the am-mu-ni-tion!
Praise The Lord, and pass the am-mu-ni-tion!
Praise The Lord, and pass the am-mu-ni-tion and we'll all stay free!
Praise The Lord, and swing in-to po-si-tion,
Can't af-ford to sit a-round a'-wish-in'
Praise The Lord, we're all be-tween per-dition
and the deep blue sea!"
Yes the sky pi-lot said it You've got to give him cred-it
for a son-of-a-gun of a gun-ner was he,
Shouting: "Praise The Lord,
we're on a might – y mis-sion!
All a-board! We're not a – go – in' fish-in',
Praise The Lord, and pass the am-mu-ni-tion
and we'll all stay free."
As opposed to your apologetics for your left-wing bias that embraces the tripe that Cameron is peddling, no doubt.
But then, is there any doubt. It's on the printed page of Cameron's screenplay where his biases are.
LINDA HAMILTON
I declared threat condition red. That puts all on-world assets under my command.
CAMERON
You think you can pull this palace coup shit on me?! I can have your ass with one call –
Hamilton grabs him and PINS him against the side of an ampsuit.
HAMILTON
You’re a long way from Earth James. A long way.
Fear coupled with admiration= uneasiness. The UK is pretty much the same. It's the natural outcome have someone with 4,000 nuclear weapons thatyou have NO say over sharing the largest unprotected border in the world. So there's that…
Hollywood is a universe by, and into itself. It reflects the rest of the US only tangentially. Conservative filmakers are routinely rejected there, we know that as a fact.
And Canadians shoot, and hunt, like it's no one's business. We get up there now and then to join 'em as well…
Totally agree.
I'm not saying that Cameron isn't biased. The words "like the Redneck NRA Supporters They Are" clearly reflect his political leaning. It's an angry leftist statement. And no, I do *not* embrace Cameron's tripe. His films (especially Avatar) are for the most part derivative, trivial, naive industrial products aiming at the lowest common denominator. But I stand with what I wrote: Sully & Chacón are good, heroic characters. They are not a means of mitigation.
oh yeah? well ya know we here in da lower 48 are pretty good eggs, ya know? Kick our butts, eh? Ya- you and what army eh? Got any Molsons or Labatts? How about a jelly donut…
jes' kiddin'…
Thanks for the info. Didn't know that.
Cameron, for portraying my beautiful Marines as the same monsters who brought down the World Trade Center, I swear I will one day take your flabby butt behind a McDonalds dumpster and give you the ass whupping of your life! Semper Fi that, you jerk!
if you view a dvd of 'Terminator' you will see a mea culpa from Cameron giving Ellison credit…
yes,…..we do. Wingers get it, too!
FULL DISCLOSURE:
0311 and 7312/24
"We do hunt more so than Americans per capita so the basics are there for a gun loving populas. There's a very good reason why Canadian shootists hold records and it has nothing to do with pacifism."
I've been on a few hunting trips in the great white north, and was impressed everytime with my Canadian friends' abilities. To be honest I never met a Canadian I didn't get along with. Never felt there was any fear, as none is warranted.
A lot of my conservative friends liked the movie. They called it a fairy tale and said I should go see it. I haven't made up my mind yet. If I avoided everything that had a liberal message then I would't be able to go to Disneyland,( do they still have a gay day?, ) go to any movies, or watch TV. ( which I watch very little) so whats a consevative to do? sigh…. I long for the days when we believed in God and Country, respected our military, Kept the bedroom a private place, and could watch a high action flick without a political message.
I don't know who's worse:
Whitman and Oswald or Wright and Murtha.
I absolutely hate Murtha. Sorry, mom……
now THAT's an interesting take!
As far as your Air America service, than you'll get this:
'Anytime, baby!"…
Can anyone explain this to me: My husband is not really political. The only issue he seems to ever care about is the 2nd Amendment (which is fine). He's a Captain in the Army Reserve and has been to Iraq twice. His father retired as a Major from the CA National Guard and my husband first signed up when he was only 17.
Nonetheless, he and some of the guys in his unit not only saw Avatar but LIKED IT! Part of me thinks he's simply just not political and simply doesn't see things that way. Also, he pretty much likes every movie he sees, even the dumbest B movies. If he doesn't like the movie, then you know it must REALLY suck!
Cont'd
But I just don't understand how he could like the movie, like how the soldiers (Marines) were portrayed. He thought the actor who played the Colonel came across very authentically in giving orders and his mannerisms, but I kept telling him – but they were killing men, women and children and slaughtering them and you found that to be okay? He simply didn't see it that way. He stil enjoyed the movie.
I just can't figure it out. He's completely nonplussed by the whole thing and thinks I'M way too political about everything. He only registered to vote back in 2004 and his family is also not particularly political either, then again, neither was mine; I guess I'm the only political animal in the family!
I don't know, I just don't understand it. Maybe because he went to school in Santa Moscow (Monica)?
LOL!
What is forbidden is always fascinating. A liberal just deals with those things in the most immature way possible.
I'm a Scottish NRA member
…. Hey, wait a minute!! cameron is soooo totally clueless and classless, but a fine example of a "usefull idiot"….
it amazes me that people don't see things my way as well.
There are some people for which this kind of stuff has no importance. Thast is basically the way I feel about fantasy football. For some people it is important. For me it would be my own personal hell if i had to work on it.
Hey some people like reality shows, some like anime, some like collecting sewing machines. I won't try to understand or get in thier way. But that doesn't mean i have to understand. Maybe that is the definition of tolerance.
it's an uneasiness with US hyperpower, and a general mistrust of our government. The people are great an we do get along well.
Except for Quebec separtists maybe…
in order:
Murtha, Wright, Whitman and Oswald. Murtha's cowardice is appaling. At least theothers weren't cowards. Wright is a demogogue. THAT is the antithesis of a Marine.
Whitman flipped his lid and shot a bunch of people. That unfortunately happens. Oswald was a player in a much bigger game, and a talented operative for someone- just to this day not sure who.
Make sense?
Speaking as a republican… I don't really care. This post is about nothing but political correctness. Why is it offensive to use an analogy to real world stereotypes? I mean, the reason stereotypes exist is because they are based on fact.
Lastly I resent all of the 9/11 – HomeTree Comparisons that many people are drawing. If you read Cameron's original scriptment that he penned in *1997*, the tree comes down. Perhaps he was alluding to it, but in my opinion, likening the two incidents could be compared to saying that the original Die Hard was jabbing at 9/11 when they blew up the tower in that film. I'm sorry that history doesn't agree with our current political sentiments, but it is what it is.
It's that whiney leftist hair splitters?
Cameron is awesome. I love that this movie, which will gross more money than any movie previously, turns all your right-wingers into such whining crybabies.
What a douchebag!
I'll never understand why Cameron and other Hollywood libs dislike the military. I chalk it up to pure ignorance. Do they not know that the first guys sent in to help people in a natural disaster are those redblooded redneck NRA supporters? Take the devastating earthquake in Haiti, The Coast Guard sent cutters and planes asap. The USNA Comfort (a hospital ship docked in Baltimore) is taking a load of active duty medical personnel down there. I've no doubt they will send a few amphibious transport ships loaded with Marines, just as they did when the tsunami hit. The news won't talk much about that. I don't see Cameron and his buds loading up their private jets with medicine and food to fly down to Haiti. I have nothing but love for those redblooded rednecks with guns, because they are the one that come save your ass when all hell breaks loose.
Yes, accepting other human beings as equal is really a horrible thing! I should instead be a hateful Christian bigot who doesn't understand the first thing Jesus said.
He does have a rather effete look about him, or is that just his Canadian showing through.
I enjoyed the movie. All you have to do is think of this fictional tale set in a universe where the left continues to ruin the USA and eventually, the world. In the future, with the Marines trained, indoctrinated and commanded by the left, it is not too hard to imagine the evil Marines depicted in the movie. Isn't that the left's M.O., destroy those that would stand in their way?
Spoiler Alert!!
It was a FREAKING MOVIE. FICTION.
"lock and load like the redblooded redneck NRA supporters they are".
Like Sarah Conner, eh?
Thats it. I've heard enough. I move that: since California's budget woes are mainly from outrageous and wasteful spending on idiot programs for illegal aliens proposed by left wing anti-Americans and other proponents of Obamacare, such as this billionaire elitest, that Cameron and his sick ilk should be forced to bailout the State of California and live only off of the what the welfare state they helped create can afford them in a modest home in South Central LA or some other crime ridden environment.
And coming in with a strong second place finish would be "right-wing gun-nuts who like cops".
Ellison had to sue him for that.
not sure we agree with the 'looking down' thing- it is, as said, a matter of distrust that came about during the late 60's and the leftward twist that Canada took. Trudeau started it, quite on purpose- and to this day there is some residual.
But look down on us? That's the French…
Damn, but I wish they'd let us Redneck, gun totin' people have a divorce. The damnyankees can keep the Northeast, upper Midwest, WA, OR and CA — we'll take AK, Texas and all the rest.
Sure, go on, cling to whatever you have left.
What's the problem? People who support the NRA are rednecks, and humans are red-blooded. Cameron was just being factual and as per usual, very attentive to the smallest detail.
"We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." — George Orwell
A reality that history challenged libtards don't get.
In the twisted universe of your basic liberal they cringe more at a pair of panties placed on some terrorist thug's head than the homicidal intent of the would be underwear bomber or the murderous rampage of Col. Hasan at Fort Hood. They cringe more at the neighbor that owns firearms for his self-protection or the cop that answers 9/11 calls than the anti-social thug that sticks a gun in the face of someone at an ATM machine. Unable to process realities in an adult manner liberals are stuck in arrested development. Like teenagers, all symbols of authority must be vilified.
Cameron like Oliver Stone is a childlike creature. Hollywood is a playground for them. It's way past time to seriously stop feeding this gargage by boycotting every movie out of Hollywood.
Some people just like military stuff in movies – period. They like the weapons, the SFX explosions, the mannerisms – everything. Context doesn't necessarily matter.
Some people will watch any kind of crap as long as it has vampires in it. As Buckwheat says, sometimes it's just personal taste. And that you cannot explain…
And when he refers to the miners "local" he is refering to their local Union. How did he let that get in there. I guess the union "members" are the mindless dolts and only the union "leaders" are worthy of liberal support.
Canadians are fighting and dying in Afghanistan.
They have my Respect and Gratitude.
Excellent observations/critiques of Cameron's work. Good point.
"People who support the NRA are rednecks"
That's either so-so satire, or the words of a retard….
This is scandalous! Shame on you Cameron. Shame on YOU!
Once a Marine, always a Marine. I'm not one, but I was raised by one, and at 68, he's still Semper Fi. I don't think there's anyway you could refer to my dad as an "ex-Marine". I've always used the moniker "retired"
See the guy below.
Mr. Nolte is as out of touch as Mr. Cameron. Here in WV, calling a miner a "redblooded, redneck, NRA supporter" is not an insult. It's a statement of fact, and often a point of pride.
Nice rating Drudgetard. -45p = FAIL.
It's just a vibe I got last time. Some comments, some looks. Maybe my spidey senses were off that day…..
If he is innocent in that way, that is if he doesn´t see the malevolence in a movie (the big picture, the context) perhaps ultimately he is better off. It would poison what was harmless fun and after all, he couldn´t do anything about it, just get angry or sad (and over a stupid movie). It might be hard on you because you cannot share your concerns but so what – you are still on the same page.
Are you kidding? I consider a negative rating from clowns like you a compliment. I hope I can get down to -200.
In that case I'd move to Texas; if they'd let a gun-totin' Californian in.
We need to do a parody movie of Avatar in a "Air Plane" & "Blazing Saddles" manner, before the part two comes out.
"Listen to me! I am not authorizing you to turn the mine-workers local into a freakin’ militia!"
You mean there's a union that isn't following the leftist agenda? Boy, that is science fiction!
Saw it last night. I've never seen such a reeking pile of movie cliches in my life, nor more stupefyingly childish and silly themes. Yes, it demeans Americans and the military, but more than anything it showcases the director's puerile mentality. Nice visuals, though.
I take that as a compliment.
http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingstuff
Hippie utopia movie with OBVIOUS political slant,… and OBVIOUS plagerism (blatant rip-off of "Pochahontas" and "Dances with Wolves"). I regret to say that I paid to watch this movie….. and that in the end all I got was a headache (both from the 3d and from the liberal spin)!!!!
Yknow what I love? That there's not even a real "insult" in there without the context that it's one of those eeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil Hollywood types. If someone had used the same terminology at a Tea Party (the ghosts of the Sons of Liberty are waiting at the gates to kick the ass of everyone who's participated in corrupting that term) the other attendants would've clapped like trained sea lions. "Hellz yeah I'm a redblodded redneck NRA supporter!!!!!!!!!"
Great and appropriate use of the word "douchebag!" LFO!
Traitor to WHO? He's from Canada.
Beat me to it. Semper Fi.
No, Ted Nugent. Trust me, even "liberals" like Skynyrd
"high action" movies thrive on the concept of a clash between "right" and "wrong." As such, all high action movies have a message… and at the end of the day, EVERY message is political (or at least can be.)
What's bothering you likely isn't that there's a message, but that it isn't YOUR message.
Well played, sir.
I don't think Cameron is childlike. I think he is a pissed-off middle-aged man TRYING to be childlike, or at least trying to remember how it was to be childlike. But some people can *feel* the pissed-off middle-aged man coming through all the beauty and wonder. Kind of spoils the "oooh, aaah" effect of the beautiful worlds he's created. You know – like Lucas' last three films and all their snide little political references.
These two directors, Cameron and Lucas, no longer believe the sense of wonder they used to create is enough. The wonder has to be improved by injecting it with "serious" messages about politics and environmentalism. That's not childlike – that's about as adult an attitude as it's possible to find.
Darling, most of America supports the NRA and the 2nd Amendment. So we're all locking and loading "red-blooded rednecks" are we? Riiiiiiight….
And another thing…why is it okay to call people "rednecks" which is an insult? I'm surprised Cameron didn't add in a "bible thumping" and "clinging" reference somewhere and then the trifecta of liberal arrogance would have been complete.
Who thinks like this?
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