Joy Behar: At Least Tiger’s No Right-Wing Hypocrite
by John NolteTry to get your mind around this: In Joy Behar’s partisan-crazed world, hypocrisy is a sin worse than serial adultery.
In other words, had Tiger Woods lectured schoolchildren on the importance of preserving the institution of marriage, marital fidelity and not being promiscuous — you know, the kind of healthy behavior that’s key to a happy life — she’d be giving him all kinds of hell right now. But, since he only cheated on his wife…
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Does that kind of thinking make any sense to you?
It does if you see the design behind it. The left wants to shut the right up, especially those trying to uphold traditional moral standards. And in order to silence those who would stand up for such things, with the help of popular culture and the media, they’ve managed to turn the world upside down into a place where you’re better off not trying to do good than risking the stigma of hypocrisy.
Because he was a drug abuser, was it wrong for Elvis to speak out against drugs? Of course not. Regardless of their personal habits, any role model using their perch to promote healthy behavior deserves credit — even a drug addict.
But I guess in Joy Behar’s world she’ll give a murderer credit for not preaching against murder, a drug abuser credit for not preaching against drugs and here she is giving Tiger his props for not being one of those types who speak out about upholding traditional moral standards … even though the world would be a better place if he had.
It’s an impossible trap the left has set for us. We’re all human and we’re all destined to slip. But that’s the plan — to create an environment where only the sinless are allowed to speak out in favor of upholding morality. And since no one is sinless…
But who’s really on the side of the angels?
Those who extol the virtues of a world where no one demands standards and values; where Roman Polanski’s forgiven because he would never dream of telling someone else not to anally rape a child; where no one strives for anything more than the cowardly pursuit of dodging the “hypocrite” label..?
Or the imperfect ones, the “moral hypocrites” who at least try to do some good?
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I give Barbara Walters credit for hiring a special needs person like Joy Behar. Developmentally disabled people need jobs too.
She is such a nasty, vile sleaze. I would love, just love for that shrew from hell to shut her nasty flap for once, but since she has not one iota of class or smarts she will continue to spew her hate. Why in God's name does she even have a show?
I think we should boycott, lets start contacting sponsors.
If you have no standards, then no one can hold you to them. What a brave new world we are living in. Everytime Joy Behar opens her mouth, I expect her to start singing "If I Only Had A Brain."
Remember the rule – when a conservative cheats, they are hypocrites and should be run out of town.
When a liberal cheats, it's "just sex".
What the difference between a bowling ball and Joy Behar?
I don't know, but if you really had to you could eat a bowling ball.
I like UJoy for one thing – She demonstrates why I hate the extreme left point of view. If I'm unsure about something, just see where she stands, and take the opposite.
A bowling ball doesn't deserve a Joy Behar to the head.
How can someone so miserable have the name Joy?
Joy Behar is a mental patient, maybe she could share a cell with Chris Matthews. Both of those people are totally worthless.
Also, Joy Behar looks like she ran a 100 yard dash in a 90 yard gym….
CaliforniaDave: Conservatives claim this moral high ground that they are the party of family values.
David Vitter, Mark Sanford and John Ensign all voted to impeach Clinton. And Ensign is (was) a promise keeper!!! None of them have resigned and hide from the press like cowards.
If you go about preaching abstinance (or substitute whatever behavior or vice that comes to mind), and are later found to continuously behave in a manner inconsistent with those beliefs, your message, and credibility is rightly lost with your audience, even if the message is true. That you "tried to do good" with your preaching is irrelavent, and people are right to point you as a hypocrite. Perhaps some people think highly of Jim Bakker or Jimmy Swaggart. Not me.
I'm no fan of Behar, but she's right. If Tiger had gone around preaching family values, does Mr. Nolte think we should be taking it easier on him, or equally harsh? Just to opposite, we should be taking it harder on him. Talk is cheap. That you stood on a high horse when you preached makes your downfall even more ironic.
I disagree that he should get off scot free just because he kept his mouth shut about morality. The fact is, Tiger sells an image. His endorsement income is much more than anything he receives from golf tournament proceeds. I think the long term impact on this will be much higher than the 4 pts on his driving record.
One final point – is it crazy to think that maybe hipocrisy may be worse than serial adultary? Read John 8:7, and tell me your thoughts.
Liberals like Behar love to "make the rules" so when a discussion happens she will always win (in her own mind).
A bowling ball at least has a useful purpose.
Who is Joy Behar?
Seriously? Does anyone care what Joy Behar thinks of anything? No need to call a boycott, I have never watched her "talk shows," or found any of her old stand-up routines funny. She's a female Keith Olbermann, but without the glasses.
I just wish people would stop caring what Behar says. Ignore her, stop watching the view and everything else she does and she'll go away. This is a perfect example of why the argument of "If you don't like it, don't watch" is a fallacious one (because of if you don't, someone else who does is going to stick it in your face anyway.
Can you not see that you proved your own point? Tiger NEVER preached abstinence. So, WHY is it an issue? Because Joy just HAD to get a political jab in, pathetic as it was.
This is one of the things that has always bothered me about the "hypocrisy" charge even when I was back in high school. It's not a good thing not to be a hypocrite if it's because you don't bother to uphold any standards.
More celebrities should be "hypocrites." The lifestyle choices that are merely bad for those with wealth and power can be disastrous for those without those resources. It would be better, obviously, if Tiger could keep it in his pants, but he certainly shouldn't go around preaching that others should follow his example. A little preaching about staying faithful and keeping a family together, on the other hand, might do a world of good.
Gee – an arrogant, half African-American narcissist with an ego the size of one of Saturn's moons is having a really rough year and isn't handling it very well…
…and how about that Tiger Woods *screw up*, huh?
It's the last word not the first that matters in these things.
Joy would rather spend time with INTEGRAL liars, adulterers, thieves, rapists, and murderers that walks the walk, vs. a hypocritical version that just talks the talk?
The left even confuse themselves.
The thing is Tiger did his pics in "People" mag. and had his little girl in the public…with his wife and looking like this pure FAMILY unit…he get the BIG bucks for having an image. That sells (Nike). His product is now damaged goods! That's what Joy is missing. But then again she can't think she can't think with any depth!
Clinton was impeaced for LYING to CONGRESS about the sex, he didn't get impeached for serial diddling.
More Democrat(SS) deserve to be impeached for lying to Congress, except that, like Clinton – they protect their own. That's the point.
Make the distinction, seperate the concepts.
I've had the pleasure of interviewing a lot of celebrities through the years … some big A-listers, others who were barely known. I watched Behar at a press event once – and she was the least friendly/hospitable star I've ever witnessed in dealing with the press. And the event I saw her at featured some major figures — and each was kind, polite and generous with his/her time. Not Behar.
I'm glad I'm proving my own point. We should all strive as such.
I suggest you read Mr. Nolte's article again. It is going a little further than saying Joy threw in a political jab.
Pretty weak jab there, Joy. It doesn't negate what he did. It's like saying "at least the 9/11 terrorists weren't cannibals". WTF?
Crude, but I laughed out loud…
According to Behar/Goldberg, personal hypocrisy is ok, but societal hypocrisy is abhorrent. This is because for the left, societal image is everything. Personal weakness and decay is fine, as long as you are viewed by others in a positive light.
Of course, they believe that internal rot has no effect on external (or "societal") actions. The only reason Behar/Goldberg won't fault Woods is because they themselves are promiscuous. They *must* champion the absurdity that private actions have no reflection on public actions in order to maintain any semblance of contrived self-worth.
But then again, I'm probably just an idiot who actually believes in and practices the notion that being 100% faithful in marriage is a choice, and not really that hard of a choice at that. Now, being charitable and forgiving to those libtards who offend me…aw crap, just failed again.
Geez, we're all hypocrites in some way. Hypocrisy is not a political party. And, if this issue deserves discussion above the level of gossip, it can be considered a moral issue. Now, leave Tiger and his family alone to work out their situation.
I think Mr. Nolte is giving Behar too much credit. There are people that have these ideas that to remove all moral standards, they could trap the people who embrace those standards when they invariably fall short, even if they face the truth, take their lumps and try to move on. In this way, people that espouse a higher standard, can be discredited on issues other than their moral shortcomings, simply by using the hypocrite label.
Behar-I don't think she is one of the people who wishes to remove all moral standards for those goals, like she is in some kind of political and social chess match. After careful consideration, from hearing many of her remarks of late, I think she is just a f'ing idiot.
The entire purpose of the View is to offend conservatives. Think about the co-hosts over the years: Rosie, Star, Whoopie, and I'm sure Noam Chomsky is in talks for the fall 2010 season. Walters, having been overpaid for sleeping with the right people in the '70's, has so much money, she can continue to produce the show through any ratings decline.
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You can't unload a truck full of bowling balls with a pitchfork.
"More Democrat(SS) deserve to be impeached for lying to Congress" Most of the right refuses to testify under oath. As i recall the last bunch claimed executive privilege for everything.
Also, you don't see any hypocrisy when elected representative that wear their christianity on their sleeve. Who pass judgement on their opponents during every election cycle. Refuse to resign or take any responsibility for there actions.
The republican party nothing but a bunch charlatans now.
Who cares what this Far -Left Medusa this Liberal Gorgon of no consequence thinks or says. Whose face could freeze sperm. All her class is in her A$$.
But your position makes no sense. You seem to believe that discrediting the messenger discredits the message. There is nothing further from the truth. The fact that people will cheat on their loved ones is proof that we need stronger commitment to marriage and respect of the institution. The fact that people get addicted to drugs is proof that we need to fight drug abuse. The fact that people commit crime is proof of the need for law enforcement and extolling the virtues of a law-abiding life.
You'll have to pardon me, but it seems ridiculous that someone needs to explain that to you. And it amazes me how people will very frequently become incredulous that there's a problem but then go right ahead and demonstrate that the problem exists, as you did here: Nolte, like many other commentators, is bemoaning the fact that we're losing focus on the wrong that was done, since nothing seems to be wrong anymore, and instead focusing on whether or not the wrongdoer was 'hypocritical'. You make fun of the position and then affirm it!
Most bizarrely, the definition of 'hypocrisy' that people like you and Behar use is simply without merit. It's not hypocritical to try to live up to a standard and fail, nor is it hypocritical to attempt to influence someone into leading a better life than you have (rebutting the classic "Mom, you smoke so why can't I" argumentation that teenagers use).
I hope everything works out well for Tiger and his family and that he learned a valuable lesson. His affair does not really concern me; however, his reported use of the insensitive and racist term "gone ghetto" in a phone call to a friend and regarding his wife's behavior is something that needs to be addressed. If it is true that the multi-racial Tiger used that phrase, will he have to make a public apology to himself for being racially insensitive? Will Obama hold another race/beer summit with Tiger as his only guest where they can talk about healing internal divides? Will the multi-racial Tiger have to go on the talk show circuit and explain to himself what he meant by the term "gone ghetto"? All questions to consider in today's PC climate.
When you cheat on your spouse, you've broken a vow and are, therefore, by definition a hypocrite regardless of your politics.
But I don't expect some ditzy bimbo to understand that.
Behar- ever the idiot ideologue- will take whatever story and twist it in he fevered mind to fit her agenda…
And this is no different. Just what the unfortunate Mr Woods did to be pulled into a Left/Right debate is furtive, at best- and flat stupid at worst. He isn't a hypocrite- he's a philanderer.
Got it?
Joy Behar…ryhmes with stunt
4 of these women I am sure are among the 72 virgins waiting in paradise for the splodeydopes.
Behar also hosts a full hour program on CNBC ever week night. Her ratings, so far, are larger than anyone over at CNN, but how long can that last. It's not like she can invite celeb's over for a chat, like say Matt Damon. Watching drooling airheads parroting liberal dogma they don't really understand is even less interesting than watching a black hole dissipate.
Your still missing the point Democrat(SS) love to investigate NON-ISSUES, for political theater and don't control their own party – take the criminal Charles Rangel. Finnally "Cold Cash" got his due, Gore is getting caught at his $$$ scheme, the entire Democrat (SS) party is going to get SMASHED in 2010 because people are SEEING the criminality and hypocracy in action. A taxx cheat running Treasury? Are you kidding me?
So do unfunny comics like Joy and Whoopi.
Have they *ever* been funny?
Play the audio clip of Dorothy, "What would you do with a brain if you had one?"
By the way you bypassed the Clinton lying to CONGRESS aspect of his impeachment. Care to recover that point and acknowledge his criminality?
From the article…But that’s the plan — to create an environment where only the sinless are allowed to speak out in favor of upholding morality. And since no one is sinless…
You disagree with this? Is it untrue?
You wrote:
If you go about preaching abstinance (or substitute whatever behavior or vice that comes to mind), and are later found to continuously behave in a manner inconsistent with those beliefs, your message, and credibility is rightly lost with your audience, even if the message is true.
So, what constitutes "continuously" in your world? Once? Ten times?
Like most of the shallow thinking on this issue you only take it to the point of condemnation and no further.
People like Behar only want to bludgeon anyone trying to separate right from wrong when it comes to personal behavior.
It's if you have blinders on that allow you to ignore the MASSIVE failings of the Democrat party and the disaster they are causing. They are the Titanic headed for an iceberg and don't seem to care.
Barbie Boxer – ignore the lies of "Climategate" and forge on toward massive new taxes, to placate the enviro-wackos that support her. That pig is the charlatan.
If you or anyone else can convince me that Tiger has not stated that high moral standards and ethical behavior are a good thing in an interview or appearance with his charitable events recently I will get off my low horse and give a "not a hypocrite" trophy to him. His behavior should not be judged by his political leanings, skin color or faith is the point, I think.
In the left wing nut world "Joy" is a hypocrite because she doesn't commit adultery. What is she waiting for or is she?? Dumb-a$$ with a bigger dumb-a$$ mouth …and she thinks she's so funny …ha ha ha.
[Team America] Maaatt Daaamon" [/Team America]
Democrats and liberals love to cling to a LOWER moral standing – and FAIL at that lower level just as well.
Hence, her lack of joy in anything other than her name.
Well, for what it's worth, it was a very good response regardless of the topic of the post.
Well said, and I hafta believe that if Behar is serially promiscuous – then battery powered *instuments* MUST be involved!
That is funny on so many levels…
Tiger has led a double life. He publicly projected a happy marriage. We are all hypocrites. The media and studios are complicite.
congratulations joy! you have just surpassed that troll, garofalo as the stupidest, most unfunny,mean bitch on tv. may you, olberman, mathews and jeanenne go away forever.
BRAVO John! Bravo!
Well said!
Gone getto and the Kobe solution – a mansion and $300 million a ring. I stand by my man too!
And she is a miserable human being. She is not funny and though she dishes it out she cannot take it.
I laughed…
If you are being facetious good for you.
If you are being dead serious do not even bother trying to find out. She is not worth it and indeed I agree with Badda you are indeed lucky.
whaa haaa that is the funniest thing i have read all day
All Tiger every preached was PLAY great golf and give to charity via his Target foundation. I don't know what you are reading.
Here's another Democrat(SS) in BIG TROUBLE for 2010 and guess what he's suddenly PRO-LIFE!
"Harry Reid Responds to Critics of Abortion Funding in Senate Health Care Bill by Saying He Opposes Abortion"
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/57960
Oh great, now you've officially insulted pigs….
Well said my friend! Well said!
Doesn't it disturb you in the slightest that for democrats nothing is too sleazy (for them)? Nothing is off the table (for them)? Is that how you see yourself?
I wonder why democrats did not get all up in arms when Hillary and Obama declared themselves Christians living by Christian principles (including thinking abortion is wrong), but when Bush held the same views democrats acted like he was satan incarnate. Why is that? The only reason I can fathom is that you think Obama and Hillary are just SAYING it, but do not really believe it.
I think you'd need a pneumatic pitchfork for Behar. With reinforced steel beams.
I couldn't have said it better myself. Genius.
Who the heck watches Joy Behar? She is a foul-mouthed pig.
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She is not even able to "act" convivial on screen. I'm not surprised, Christian. She does not seem like a pleasant woman to spend time with. You earned your pay at that press conference!
This subject is malignant…the only (two) times I have ever watched "The View" was from clips on this forum, and right now, I feel very unclean.
it soared right over the head of all 13 people that watched the show.
I think I finally saw the scar in this video where the surgeons went in to perform her lobotomy. She performs surprisingly well considering she has the brain function of a sack of shit.
How does that "thing" deserve to be paid more than anyone else here (or anywhere)…. I strongly dislike people that have a moral superiority over others as if they were God or something… Joy Behar is the main reason why I stopped myself from watch that show in the beginning…. I could at least tolerate Merideth… at least she isn't militant.
Of course there's hypocrisy. That is a minor sin. Go back and read what John wrote.
You can tell a lot about a person by how they act toward people that… don't count – like waiters, staff, interviewers, small children.
2 small examples. In the early 70's I ran into Phyllis Diller in the bathroom at LAX. I imitated her to her face (I was little). She grabbed up my face in her hands and kissed the top of my head. Sweet huh?
William Conrad (who played Cannon – also in the 70's) he was out at a nice restaurant in San Francisco with his wife and had the unlucky coincidence of having me at the next table. I walked over and asked him for his autograph. He asked me to sit down, signed the menu and ordered me a Shirley Temple and let me stay there til I finished it. Again -little kid.
Not all stars are Joy Behar. But then again, Joy is no star… more a black hole or some hideously noxious gas.
That's only if you read John 8:7 broadly. It was just saying not to kill someone for committing a sin. This is basic love the sinner, but still hate the sin stuff.
Excellent!!! I don't think any of these liberals will get that one, though…probably above their heads!!!
I don't watch The Spew. Personally, the cute blond is ok; she seems to have a good head on her shoulders…
as for the rest, I can't tell if they have good heads because they're up their respective @sses.
As for Behar (or should that be "Bray-Hard"?), if her air head gets any further up her wazoo she'll be giving herself a balloon enema.
I'm an unapologetic Texan – we have no *couth*!
I thought that the *parrallel* of these two was just to delicious to pass up. At least Tiger is actually ~good~ at TWO things! Obammy can't handle ONE thing!
"But I guess in Joy Behar’s world she’ll give a murderer credit for not preaching against murder"
Heh, it is more upside down. I remember a bunch of lefties (even some I know personally) turning out to protest the execution of that gang member guy who wrote a few anti violence kids books…. while on death row…
As to faults and speaking out… it can be hypocrisy or yeah, you could just know about it and be warning others…. it can even be a bit of both…
Tiger has been often photographed in public with the "little wifey" and kids, giving the "appearance" of being a "family man", which is(was) part of his image. If he never appeared in public with said family we might be able to use a different standard. It was his chioce and he blew it.
250 lbs of loud liberal mouth, with a little hair on the top.
exactly – he SOLD the "family guy" image!
(not the fatassed cartoon "Family Guy!)
Dang, that is true. A dear female friend of mine was dating "Mr. Perfect" and he treated waitstaff etc. like
sh!t and I WARNED HER that this guy was a bad dude and a phony – NOOOOOO she marries him and guess what? Falanderer and cheat and crook and generally a bad dude, he wound up doing time in the Texas State system!
No apologies necessary…Texas also didn't elect the likes of Boxer.
She is a miserable, vile, ridiculous, ignorant piece of trash that makes me embarrassed to be a fellow New Yorker and a fellow woman. No wonder her first marriage disintegrated and she hasn't gotten her "live-in" of many years to marry her. How could he stand to be in the same room with her, no less the same bed. An absolute jerk!
Joy Behar is the kind of person that causes wars. Everything she sees and says is colored by here EXTREME partisanship.
I classify Joyless Behag as an "it". A blob of shapeless goo. A nothing. Irrelevant. It should shunned at every opportunity.
1. I am not interested in any politician's opinions of family life. The only question question I would have for any of them is: why is this any of the government's facking business?
2. Hypocrisy is a sin we all have committed. All of us have been in situations where our deeds did not match our words. The differences between any of us are differences of degree, not of kind.
3. It's amazing how everything is about politics to a leftist. Get a facking life, Joy.
At least she seems to admit that the "right wingers" are the ones who actually have morals.
You're giving Joy Flap way too much credit. She is incapable of rational thinking. Everything to her and her ilk are someone/something's fault, not the doer of the wrong deed. Let's just be resigned to it. As long as she stays where she is and not legislating anything that would affect my life– I could care less…
Is she married??
When you're a moral relativist and therefore cannot make a judgment on someone's action, the only sin left is hypocrisy.
Frank, if you are serious, man, you should wear your ignorance as a badge of honor.
" In Joy Behar’s partisan-crazed world, hypocrisy is a sin worse than serial adultery. "
Yeah. And I notice that his wife's assault with a deadly weapon goes almost completely unremarked. Try to image if Tiger had done what she did, and for the same reasons. Think she'd be getting the grief he is?
There is a scene in Fellinin's Roma where a young man, on his first trip to Rome, goes to a brothel in the catacombs. As the hour lengthens and most of the men begin picking their "dates" the remaining prostitutes become shriller and more vulgar in hopes of getting some work. It's now 3:00am and Joy Behar has just realized unless she can somehow catch the eye of a hunchback with a weeping eye she'll not get paid nor eat the next day.
This comment insults the developmentally disabled.
You must be Canadian. Because this joke is told in 1st grade in every school in the United States.
Tiger has made 98 million on the Golf Course and about 800 million off.
Tiger Woods Golf video games (a 60 bucks a pop) have made him a fortune. I heard EA sports planned on making lemons out of lemonade, they are updating the old PC game LoungeLizard Larry and releasing it as Tiger Wood's 19th hole.
It's fairly obvious the lady has a low IQ and loud mouth. That's not a good combination in general
Hey… consider the source. Her logic – let alone her value system – bespeak an inferior education, upbringing and life lived. And she has never been funny.
I disagree, All A… her TASTE is in her A$$.
So Joy, back to basics. Is marital fidelity a good thing? If so, should people promote it? Or, if a person is viscerally, personally opposed to homosexual sex, yet feels that same-sex marriage is good for society, should he promote it or stay silent?
While I agree with the notion that communicating upright and moral standards deserves praise more can be said for living them. This isnt to say you can voice those standards but as has already been discussed the more you "preach" and then are caught the harder you fall … and bring down those that followed.
Its like saying we should forgive pedophile catholic priests for molesting kids because every sunday they teach people to do the right thing. At some point your actions outweigh anything positive you might have "said".
So if you believe in a limited role of government and you cheat on your wife, you're a hypocrite?
Why does this a$$muppet have her own show? Who cares what her views are on ANYTHING…..she is nothing but a left wing moonbat and her voice alone makes me want to punch a wall.
Joy Behar, jeez .. Sometimes it hits me that there are lots and lots of stupid people and I get kind of discouraged.
So what she is saying is that you are a better person if you have no moral standards for yourself or very low standards because then you aren't falling short of your standards. If you have high standards for yourself and try to meet them but fail at times, then you are a hypocrite to be mocked. I would rather be the hypocrite then , I guess.
I wondered when I read that a "friend" had reported that statement–with friends like that–who needs enemies?
You can only get three fingers in a bowling ball.
Joy Behar is a special kind of hypocrite. Passing itself off as a human being every day on TV.
I am bemused less by what Tiger and his wife have done and more by what the media and America thinks of the whole episode.
Can someone kill her? Please?
You do know that ghetto does not necessarily refer to one race, right? And if you do, would that not make you the racist?
Now, now, now. Don't wish death upon the deranged. It's much more fun to watch them disintegrate slowly, and publicly.
I think that is the case. Mikey Moore knows for sure.
I saw Behar's show one night and she had some fruit named Eric Roberts on and they were lecturing the viewers and another guest about the wrongness of spanking unruly children. It became obvious that Behar and Roberts weren't spanked enough when they were children, but that a good beating now would do them a lot of good.
I guess it wasn't really adultery-adultery.
Hate is a terrible thing and poor Joy is filled with it. She doesn't like anyone but probably because she worries more about her paycheck. The industry that she works for is so liberal that inorder to survive in it one has to be one of the lemmings. And, is being a lying scumbag SOB cheating liar over and over and over again a real dreamboat in her eyes? She can have him. Oh yea, well as long as he's a democrat and black he's a winner. Poor Joy.
As i recall the last bunch claimed executive privilege for everything.
As opposed to the current bunch who are encouraging the Social Secretary to testify, right?
Joy's comments insults common decency!
Tiger is just glad to be getting all the free press…
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no one made you do anything. you chose to respond.
LOL!!! I have never watched the show and probably never will. How can you "boycott" something you aren't the least bit interested in wasting your time on?
In my opinion you have to be pretty devoid of a life to be able to watch something like that.
Joy Behar, an example of the talent that is taking CNN down the tubes. She is so gross and obnoxious I wonder why any network would employ her, let alone her journalistic insignificance.
"The View" has more viewers than ever. In fact, the 2006-2007 season brought in its highest ratings ever after being on the air for a full decade. 2007-2008 topped. They have more viewers now in the key 18-34 demographic alone than total viewers from previous seasons.
I don't care to defend the show, Joy Behar, etc. But, it bothers me when people just blindly open their mouth. You're spreading misinformation, however small it is. But, then again, spreading misinformation is a common activity on this site.
Go ahead ignore me, slam me. I don't care. You don't seem to care enough to engage in honest exchanges. Have a nice day.
The devil's greatest success was in convincing mankind that he did NOT exist. The backward, perverted, moral relativist world that we witness each day however, is the strongest proof that the Big D Does, in fact, exist.
Axl: You miss what hypocrisy is. If an alcoholic is struggling to stay clean and urges others to do the same but slips – that is not hypocrisy – that's just human failing. If that same alcoholic is not making any effort to stay clean but urges others to avoid alcohol, *that* is hypocrisy. If somebody sees that doing something is wrong, regardless of who the perpetrator is and says that it is wrong while making efforts to avoid that behavior they are not a hypocrite if they fail at times. It only becomes hypocrisy when they start justifying why it was okay for *them* but not for *you*. Al Gore's sophistry about why it's okay for him to fly a private jet around while demanding that you ride a bicycle is a classic example of hypocrisy.
Axl: You miss what hypocrisy is. If an alcoholic is struggling to stay clean and urges others to do the same but slips – that is not hypocrisy – that's just human failing. If that same alcoholic is not making any effort to stay clean but urges others to avoid alcohol, *that* is hypocrisy. If somebody sees that doing something is wrong, regardless of who the perpetrator is and says that it is wrong while making efforts to avoid that behavior they are not a hypocrite if they fail at times. It only becomes hypocrisy when they start justifying why it was okay for *them* but not for *you*. Al Gore's sophistry about why it's okay for him to fly a private jet around while demanding that you ride a bicycle is a classic example of hypocrisy.
I can't bear Joy; nor her program or the women on the View. If this is an example of the modern woman; please count me out..
Truth be told; these gals couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag.
What you miss is that the left takes a broad brush and paints the whole idea of morality that conservatives try to adhere to as hypocritical due only to the actions of a few. Conservatives believe in morality…if there is one among us that sins (and so many do) then so be it, we have to answer for our sins. But that doesnt mean we throw the bath water out with the baby! We continue to try and better our lives and those around us if possible. Joy is a faithless blind woman who doesn’t get it. She takes aim at those who would do her the least harm. Let's see how brave she'd be mouthing off about the horrendous treatment of Muslim women around the world. Liberal feminazis are the scourge of women around the world because they whore themselves out to liberal, socialist politics.
If you have no morals then no one can hold you to them. Nothing's wrong when everything is right. I guess that allows one to anguish over the execution of a murderer and rejoice in the wholesale slaughter of unborn children. Who's Joy Behar anyway and why do I care what she believes?
Behar's and Goldberg's, too, is a moral handicap.
So, is Tiger a liberal? He seems to have been silent on politics.
Apologies if I didn't catch your subtle humor. Sarcasm doesn't type well. As far as Maher and Stewart go, I don't watch 'em. But of course, you knew that, cause you caught the nuance of my post.
I'm sure you're right, though I can't find any articles that back you up. Maybe I'm looking the wrong place. googling "The View" and "ratings" isn't getting me anywhere. I did find one article that said the view hit #1 for the first time last year in November and that was attributed to election coverage. Maybe they're still riding that wave. I don't know how other women watch that crap. I can't even bring myself to watch the clip posted here.
Charles Rangel, Chris Dodd, William Jefferson, Barney Frank … a great many of Obama's appointments. Democrats have been corrupt for so long it's entrenched. The GOP is on it's way there, too. But still, they've got nothing on the Democrats. A political party so corrupt, Robert Mugabe would shy away.
Best comment of all. Thanks.
I am not watching that clip because I HATE the View. I want a women's show that isn't full of whiny chicks spouting relativistic crap. Can we have a conservative women's show? With segments on how to knit cute things and how to defend yourself against a rapist and 25 ways to cook bison (after shooting and cleaning it yourself)?
They were playing it in a doctor's office waiting room once and I was appalled. For one thing, the content was too adult for my 8 year old daughter who was sitting there waiting with me, and for another, even with the sound turned low, the screech was intolerable. I agree, I can't imagine the brainlessness it would take to be a regular VIEWer. Ack! And they probably breed, too.
It's cool that the View's intern posts here, though.
But, Mr. Nolte… isn't Behar's point fairly similar to your own from a day or so ago, when you also had your own "at least.." for Tiger? See here: http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2009/1...
What, really, is the difference between Behar using "at least Tiger…" to take a barely-tangentially-related swipe at behavior she doesn't like and you using "at least Tiger…" to take a barely-tangentially-related swipe at behavior YOU don't like? How far a distance is there between "at least he kept his immorality to himself" (you) and "at least he's not a hypocrit" (Behar)?
Interns need love too. (Insert Bill Clinton joke here).
There have already been a couple of "friends" with not-so-nice things to say about Tiger. That's unusual in the celebrity culture. So what I really wonder is how much of a jerk is Tiger that his friends are so quick to turn on him?
"Who is Joy Behar?"
Joy is the male co-host on the The View.
You lucky, *lucky* bastard. Ignorance is bliss… unfortunately, some of us have run across her on television or been subjected to her shrill, screeching voice on YouTube.
Calling Joy Behar a ditzy bimbo is an insult to ditzy bimbos. At least bimbos are usually (if not univerally) attractive.
Are you suggesting Mr. Nolte is a hypocrite for making his argument? Doesn't that just reinforce it?
Thanks for the laugh. That was good. But don't put Walters on a pedestal yet. I think she gets a tax credit or something like that!
That may well be, that she's an idiot, but people of that ideaological stripe are kinda like the Borg. It's a group-think mentality. Even if they doesn't know why they're doing it, they'll do it because they know the group would approve. Any attack on any form of normalcy is good for their cause.
No he didn't preach abstinence. He preached "I am such a nice guy that you should buy an Olsmobile, get an Amex card, drink Gatorade and buy some Nike's. Do it becasue I say so. And I am such a nice clean cut guy who would never embarrass my wife and my children for anything as low a banging sluts on the sly."
He pimped an image that he is anything but what he has proven himslef to be. Not much of a difference to the thinking person.
Which explains why you probably won't understand.
Early in this this fiasco I alluded to the fact that I thought Tiger is the WORST interview I had ever watched.
He seemed distant and bored and spoke in a monotone and generally seemed like a pill. Am I wrong Christian? If I am I'll admit it, but he just seemed supremely arrogant, that's what gives this story legs for me.
Quite correct. That's why they have to tear down anyone who upholds any sort of morality. If they don't, they'd have to look themselves in the mirror and realize that they are worse than the person they're attacking.
"I'm proud to be an American…because an American can eat anything on the face of this Earth as long as he has two pieces of bread." – Bill Cosby
It's plain to see she can't understand normal thinking.
Frankly, I'm so sick and embarrassed by this mutation of my gender, when I catch a brief peripheral shot of them that is – I try to avoid women like the self-centered, feminist twits on 'The View'. Even the title of their insipid shrill forum is called, THE View. As if it is the alpha and omega of female perspective. They promote ignorance, vulgarity, ugliness, victimhood and self-destruction, merely by existing – and they have a TV show to act as a megaphone to herald their exquisite menopausal stupidity to the world. Even 'Side-Show-Elizabeth' is only there to be publicly humiliated, belittled and tortured by her salivating cellulitic captors; and Lizzie remains there year after mind-numbing year. Which begs the question, do the know that they're the Freak show?
This sad excuse for "entertainment" aught to be renamed to "The Inverted View."
I'm sure you think of yourself as a fair minded honest person but we're all human Axl. If your logic is used in raising children, we're all being hypocrites when we lecture on activities we know to be dangerous or wrong, that we did ourselves. Your wrong about Behar, she's not honest, she just gives the impression of this only when it suits her. The lie with her the big lye isn't in her statement about hypocrisy, – we're all hypocrites at times that's no secret – is that she uses that knowledge to convince some, many, not to try to be better than we are. Look I'm sorry Tiger Woods did this, I like the guy, Behar said at least he's not being a hypocrite. Aren't you being a hypocrite when you break promise, like a marriage vow? The View is a terrible show, it promotes ignorance, stupidity, hatred, and I'm now adding complacence. Behar's also a nihilist she doesn't respect values, she hates them in fact, and I believe it's because she knows values and/or morals are the glue that holds our society together, a society that she doesn't think very much of, that makes her a nihilist.
Staying married and supporting marriage is a noble goal. Being perfect has NEVER been a conservative aspiration. I think you are confusing "conservatives" with a sect of fundamentalists who live in a fairy world created by liberals…
Isn't perjury a crime?
Geez, are you really that shallow of intellect that you cannot realize a sarcastic tweak of the racial grievance industry? If so, go back to watching Bill Maher and Jon Stewart and playing in the sandbox with the other little children.
Which is why we call it the "idiot box…" People who watch this crap totally amaze me.
It's that lib doublespeak again…
It's that lib doublespeak again…
What the left wants to do is bully us into accepting gays and their "morals" because if we do then they can more easily push their agenda on us. One of the biggest things they would like to do is destroy the family unit
I would love that. Conservative leaning shows do well on FOX, just look at Glenn Beck. I wonder how one geared at women would do? I'd watch it.
Horseface also said that Black Friday was racist. Libs are stupid, evil people.
You can't fit your foot up a bowling ball's ass.
I would also like to point out that a hypocrite is someone who preaches something while at the same time not holding themselves to the same standard. Now if I tell someone that lying is wrong, yet later I lie, this doesn't make me a hypocrite. It confirms I am a sinner. If Tiger had preached against infidelity and sincerely believed that , it doesn't make him a hypocrite. If he had preached against infidelity yet never meant it, he would be a hypocrite. I point this out because idiots like Behar don't understand what a hypocrite is.
Rimshot!
You aren't real smart. Behar's point is that all that stand up for morality are hypocrites. Nolte's point is that Tiger at least shows some shame.
I liked Whoopi on Star Trek, but that was it. I can't stand her in anything else, wether she's trying to be funny or not.
Joy, like Babs "call me Senator" Boxer and other unprincipled people, can only see that hypocrisy trumps the crime of infidelity, lies, deception and subterfuge….likewise climategate is bad, to them, because of email "theft"…disregarding the emails were obtained in Britain's Freedom of Information Act…not bad because of the faulty data, mismanaged deliberate attempts to fool the public, trickery and money grubbing by Gore and his ilk.
Does that kind of thinking make any sense to you?
Behar's never made any sense to me. I don't know who the hell she is, or why she's on TV.
It's a mystery.
Well put. Hypocrisy isn't failing to practice what you preach. It's living falsely under the pretense virtue. Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Bakker never said they weren't sinners. Al Gore, on the other hand, lives under the false pretense of being the Eco-Jesus, when he in fact has a carbon footprint the size of Minneapolis. That's hypocrisy.
Really Matt? I'm no Vitter fan, just a fan of truth. Vitter was not in D.C. when Clinton was impeached. He was still in LA Legislature. You're like MSM going with ideology instead of doing a little research. Secondly, anyone that has any amount of "self-truth" would have to admit that all of us humans are hypocrites. It's to what degree of hypocrisy we will admit to ourselves.
what she means is the people need to realize is that cheating, lying and sinning is basically a left wing kinda thing and it should be expected from the left and not the morally superior of the right. When the right does it, its hypocrisy and the from the left its normal and expected behavior…
I watched the View one day, just in time to see Elizabeth stabbed in the back. Joy was the grinning idiot of the show, with nothing to say except one liners that she liked but everyone else ignored. So she would speak her one sentence and then sit there smiling, as you would expect of someone with nothing meaningful to add to the discussions. How did she manage to get a program on MSNBC? Contribute to the lib causes?
The Shrew is an irrelevant show. Stop watching it. Ignore it. Even liberals don't watch it. Let them spew their hate to each other. Elisabeth Hasselbeck needs to quit and move on to something classier.
This woman can never keep her fat, stupid mouth shut. No class, no comprehension of what class would be.
now now, dont be racist
oops, its not obozo, so its not racist – carry on !!
havent you heard …………. obozo is taking over the golf thing, also
so obozo can bond with tiger on another level
That Joy Behar is a cunning little runt……..
AtheistCon: You seem to believe that discrediting the messenger discredits the message.
Gee, isn't that what happened to Sarah Palin?
I don't know about you, but I get a frisson of glee every time this low-grade cretin opens her mouth.
Re-read the post, Vince, baby. I never claimed The View had low ratings!!! I said Walter's wealth could keep it in production long after the ratings dropped, if they ever did. I'm not ignoring or slamming. I'm CORRECTING, because I care about "honest exchanges".
This is why we are done as a nation. The fact that so many intelligent folks get focused and distracted by idiotic non issue stories like Tiger Woods and Joy Behar. No wonder the politicians love this crap, it takes the focus off of them and how they are destroying the country. It doesn't matter the party or political slant, they are ALL ripping us off, stealing from us and destroying the country. This garbage is like waving a shiny ball in front of our eyes and pulling the wallets out of our pockets at the same time. Wake up already.
Tiger Wood=distraction
Joy Bahar=distraction
Natalie Holloway=distraction
Anna Nicole=distraction
Scott Peterson=distraction
and so on and so on and so on.
We are fighting 2 wars, the Economy is in the crapper, Iran's going Nuclear, they are taxing us to death, corruption is up in most states, Unemployment is over 10%, etc and you worry about a ******* golfer and an idiotic talking head. Goodbye America!!!
[...] Back in 2005, Howard Dean breathlessly told the late Tim Russert, “I will use whatever position I have in order to root out hypocrisy.” (And physician heal thyself in that department). And this past week, as John Nolte writes at Big Hollywood regarding a leading television intellectual, “in Joy Behar’s partisan-crazed world, hypocrisy is a sin worse than serial adultery.” [...]
I now understand the term Douche Bag.
OK Joy Behar takes the cake…….
So Tiger Woods fooling around with his wife is a private matter and none of our business. Fine I actually agree with that. We shoud not talk about it. Honestly I could care less. But Oh as a talk show host it is OK for her to do that. Hmmm………
This woman is the hipocrit.
Oh, my gosh! Someone finally said it, and clearly.
That is exactly what I have been thinking for a long time. That's why liberals feel compelled to attack moral, ethical people. The moral, ethical people are a reminder that THEY are neither moral, nor ethical.
That is why people like Sara Palin and Glenn Beck absolutely drive them bonkers!
I hope you either turned it off or requested that the office staff change the channel to something less offensive.
Well, that would explain how someone with a speech impediment became a television anchor.
Everytime i see that (ugh) face…the pupils get burned out…Everything that has gone wrong or will go wrong in this country, she blames Bush. I just don't understand how some loud mouth, no talent hack like Joy Bearface Behar can get her own show and hold a captive audience. Oh wait… she is on the CNN network isn't she….they will give any loud mouth Bush bashing loser a primetime show.
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