NBC-Owned History Channel to Air Howard Zinn’s ‘The People Speak’
by John NolteDon’t believe for a second that the History Channel — which should now be called The Revisionist History Channel — will be the end of Matt Damon and Howard Zinn’s cinematic ode to trashing America. The obvious next step for the adaptation of Zinn’s “A People’s History of the United States,” will be taken up by nitwit, pseudo-intellectual, America-loathing teachers and professors everywhere – many of them paid by the taxpayers of GodDamnAmerica – who are no doubt panting in anticipation for their first chance to screen this toxic mix of guilt and victimization in classrooms everywhere stocked with young, captive, impressionable minds.
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And the film’s producers are showing academia the way with “The People Speak College Tour,” which launched at Boston University November 4th and ends right here at UCLA this coming Friday.
Turning Zinn’s textbook poison into an even more powerful brew of sound and fury has been a goal of producer Damon’s for going on a decade now. When I first heard that this skewed, leftist dwelling on America’s sins (some real, most imagined, all delivered without historical context) had received the seal of approval from the History Channel it was a shocker – until I remembered the History Channel is owned by NBC – a network now working like a propaganda war machine to boost every leftist cause imaginable.
There’s an older preview here. Should be interesting to see if the now inconvenient history of Cindy Sheehan made the final cut.
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too bad, too. We like the History Channel…
And, for the most part their programming is pretty good. Noticed their liberal bias from time to time- FDR, JFK and other Dems get real good treatment. Reagan is ignored, not much difference from other networks.
Just won't watch this. Figure a lot of other folk won't, either…
We still have 'Battles BC' ' Dogfights', 'WWII in HD' and' UFO Hunters' and 'Nostradamus Effect'. So all is not lost…
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This show has nothing to do with Hitler or UFO sightings (to my knowledge). What's it doing on the History Channel?
These American Haters won't be happy until they bring the deluge upon themselves. I for one hope to live long enough to see them Joyous.
I worship actors. I believe everything they say without question.
Damon stars in Invictus, based on the book Playing the Enemy by John Carlin, who as a journalist for The Independent (London) proposed that Flight 93 on 9/11 was a myth/hoax.
It's funny that Matty Damon has taken his star turn as a working class MIT genius seriously – as if he's channeling "Good" Will himself!
Er – not.
The last time I watched the History Channel (probably some 5 years ago as I no longer watch TV) they were doing a show about Rome. I watched and laughed at how they proceeded to mistranslate EVERY SINGLE comment made by an Italian historian. They even continued with getting major dates and locations wrong. If they can't even handle that I shudder to think what else they might be screwing up.
…or pawn shops or Yetti or …
Yeah we liked the History channel as well … Sigh.
What is wrong with Matt Damon's head (I mean besides the fact that it's empty)?
My favorite is when Damon says " . . . and the pursuit of happiness."
Do you think he even understands what he's saying? this is gonna be a funny show.
I'll get to watching this right after I watch their special on the secret history of Christianity. Sounds about as accurate.
Damon is mentally retarded.
I remember having to read a People's History for history…made for some good times in class.
More mind numbing liberal drivel………….God this gets old!
or Hitler ON a UFO- we're waiting for that!
It's interesting that the trailer uses only POSITIVE quotes about America (excepting Damon reading from The Grapes of Wrath, which is a novel, not something written by an 'ordinary American') … even though most of the source from which they're reading paint incredibly NEGATIVE pictures of America.
It's also interesting that Josh Brolin is reading from Johnny Got His Gun, a book which Dalton Trumbo repudiated when WWII started. He wrote it about the senselessness of WWI, but felt that WWII was "an entirely different matter". I'm sure that will make it into the reading
No matter how used to this stuff one gets, it is still disappointing. I wonder if we will ever see a day when we at least get a neutral shake. I wonder where the "fairness" doctrine" crowd is on this one? For every Matt Damon revisionist crockumentary, maybe we get a show "You are there," sponsored by Prudential, and maybe narrated by Moriarty. Maybe it could have the "Theme for the Common Man" as the music. After all, there seems to be big bucks in remakes.
The History Channel has some good programs… it's enlightening to learn it is an NBC-owned network! WWII in HD was amazing. Unfortunately, HC has a preoccupation with bashing Christianity and (like its sister stations, Discovery and TLC) the global warming HOAX. I can wait to see what kind of Marxist / liberal drivel is spewed from this upcoming series.
History Channel is not owned per se by NBC. History is actually owned by AETN or A&E to the rest of the world. AETN is then a jointly owned company between Hearst and ABC with NBC owning somewhere in the neighborhood of 14% of the remainder. They neither have a board seat nor any control over the company. That's why when they bought Lifetime Television recently it was said they were divesting themselves because of tax implications. Here's an article: http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20090827/FRE...
"NBC Universal was already the junior partner in A&E Television Networks, with a 25% stake, compared with 37.5% each for Disney and privately held Hearst.
If no cash was exchanged, NBC Universal's stake in the venture would shrink, giving it less of a strategic position, said Standard & Poor's analyst Tuna Amobi."
This isn't meant as a gotcha, I actually agree Zinn is an idiot. I just thought it was important to clarify, so some idiot at HuffPo didn't.
I don't know about this particular work but I've noticed that most whinging from the neocons about such-and-such being "against America" turns out to be against the corrupt FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. Don't you recall Clinton whining about people daring to say they love their country but hate their government? The phony conservative Zionist Neocons LOVE government! Especially to fight wars with it but they love their social programs, too. And they love welfare if it is for a foreign nation that has murdered Americans like Israel has.
Since when did conservatives become more liberal than Clinton? The Founding Fathers would be liberals according to you – they hated the idea of a standing army. Maybe you should look in to Smedley Butler's book "War is a Racket." Guess he hated America to…according to you?
Damon even mentioned Zinn's book in his movie "Good Will Hunting". At a speaking engagement at the University of Georgia, Zinn said he had set "quiet revolution" as his goal for writing A People's History. "Not a revolution in the classical sense of a seizure of power, but rather from people beginning to take power from within the institutions. In the workplace, the workers would take power to control the conditions of their lives."
Then he ran around the room shouting "I am a dirty commie!"… Not really but he might as well have.
Perhaps it is the porcine features of Mr. Damon, but the Zinn and Disciple Damon propaganda slop brings to mind that wonderful episode of The Twilight Zone where all the "normal" and "beautiful" people had snouts and cloven hooves, while those who were strikingly beautiful or handsome were told they were ugly misfits of society and were encouraged to undergo "surgery" to correct their defects or be banished. Pure hogwash, that's what Zinn and his useful idiots peddle, and the History Channel will broadcast it.
His mom is gonna be real busy watching his crap!
The H.C. has a lot of good programming. Too bad this kind of stuff gets worked in too. I might watch it as a curiousity. I will certainly remember who the sponsors are.
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
Suggestion: In future blog posts such as this, please make sure you capture the worst picture in the thumbnail that makes the celebrity look like a Mongoloid.
That's an effect trick I learned from Leftists.
What I said about Sean Penn on a nother post goes for this nimrod as well.
what do you expect from someone who likes the red sux?
Not sure if it's in the book but in the movie version didn't the kid ask the old guy what Democracy was and the old guy replied, "it's got something to do with men killing each other." nice.
Heh. You fail at movie knowledge. TJD's quote comes from the Adam Sandler movie, "Billy Madison".
As for your points; one of the first things the Founding Fathers did _was_ establish a military for the defense of our nation. The Marines were created to handle the Barbary corsairs, and then there was the French Indian war, the war of 1812, etc. etc. etc. to consider.
You state Israel has murdered US citizens. Citations? Examples?
But you are right; the Founding Fathers would dislike the way that the RINOs have run the country so far; pretty much every presidential election in the past 40 years has been a choice of statist-lite vs. full blown statist, and that philosophy is diametrically opposed to what they wanted . They would've been libertarian in nature, not Far Left socialist Neo-Liberals lauding the crap that Zinn so wholeheartedly vomits up.
When History Channel did their big global warming program they showed how this happened naturally 1,000 years ago (aka the little ice age.)
But then they went on to contradict themselves with the al gore message. did they have suv's 1,000 years ago.
"You state Israel has murdered US citizens. Citations? Examples? "
USS Liberty attack. Also, the Lavon Affair which was a false flag terrorism attack carried out by our fine allies who are famous for this rather disgusting tactic. Many think they were involved in 9/11 and the 5 Israelis arrested at the scene filming and jumping for joy support that. I bet the film showed the first plane strike. They certainly benefitted which Netanyahoo GLOATED about.
As for military, even today no threat justifies a standing army. Each state could have their guard that could be activated. At the very least we need to guard the border which we AREN'T doing despite it being a legitimate use of the military….unlike wars of occupation halfway round the globe.
Well hell. Learning that the History Channel is owned by NBC is like learning that Santa Claus is not real. I am in the depths of despair, how did I not know this? Now what in the hell am I going to watch?
It's odd ro me that Damon would push Zinn so obsessively. The only people who taked him seriously are undergraduate poseurs who are trying to impress the take back the nignt crowd…… OHhhhhhhhhhh that's right!
It seems like the History Channel is being taken over by the far left just as the BBC was in the 1990s. Once upon a time, the BBC was fair and neutral but is now riddled with political correctness.
There may be a truck that drives over ice though.
If Matt Damon really believes he's so brilliant , why did he refuse to debate Bill Kristol of the Weekly Standard? Did Matt know he didn't have a chance debating Bill, an intelligent guy with facts that actually support his positions?
Matt Damon.
NBC has pseudo news shows why not pseudo history.
GE sold NBC to Comcast today, 12/01/09, according to Larry Kudlow on his CNBC show. It is a 51/49 split. The government has to approve, perhaps contingent on NBC remaining this admin's shill. Besides the obvious change in ownership it's unclear if there will be change in NBC's executive leadership or political direction.
And the problem is that this stuff never goes away and could be recycled a decade from now, even if it gets fully discredited. I've seen not only a 1980s movie about KAL flight 007 that blamed the downing on a US conspiracy shown after 2000 but also a UK documentary entertaining the idea that perhaps the plane really was on a mission and so on on one of the educational channels (If not History, then Discovery or TLC), the sort of anti-Reagan nonsense that was all the rage in the 1970s. There was no excuse for showing either of those programs after the discovery that the Soviet Union had recovered the black boxes and not only was the plane not on a spy mission but was likely shot down over international waters. Yet here that nonsense was again, being recycled to deceive a new generation of people who might not know any better.
After the History Channel aired an absurd documentary about the Star Wars movies referencing symbolism between the Empire and the Bush Administration, I finally gave up watching. Their airing of fictional movies had been diluting the brand before that point.
I hate to say this, but the History Channel no longer has anything to do with history. Ice Road Truckers, Ax Men, UFO Hunters, MonsterQuest, etc….these are all good shows, in and of themselves, but what do they have to do with history? Nada. Zip. Zero. Sure, you can still find shows about World War II and Nostradamus–which I suppose loosely fits within the category–but those other shows are what brings in the ratings, which is why those programs supplanted the earlier shows in the first place. As someone with a history degree, this depresses me. Obviously, the History Channel was never perfect, but it did once have some intelligent and informative programs on, like the French Revolution, the Roman Empire, the Black Death, the Revolutionary War, etc. Those were shows I learned a lot from. What do I learn from these new shows? Nothing.
so is SyFy, the homo channel Bravo, Telemudo, USA Network … have some relationship with A&E, CNBC MSNBC of course, Nat Geo (international, at least), and ……. drumrollllll …. The Weather Channel !!!
So you wondered how TWC could possibly buy into AGW sham, could have tolerated a head anchor calling for the disaccreditation of any disagreeing meteorologist, at one point have a weekly program dedicated promoting Global Warming ? Now you know …
As an aside, anyone remember what happened to that show? It seems to have failed.
The original "How the Earth Was Made" two hour documentary program detailed how Earth went through many extreme climatic changes (short version: all icecap to no icecaps) long before mammals came about… then had a reference to global warming near the end. (?!)
NBC owns the History Channel? No wonder why they began to suck so bad these past few months!
so is SyFy, the homo channel Bravo, Telemudo, USA Network … have some relationship with A&E, CNBC MSNBC of course, Nat Geo (international, at least), and ……. drumrollllll …. The Weather Channel !!!
Oh, and since it looks like no one else remembered….
"MATT DAMON!"
Egads… I just realized the Team America parody of Damon makes him sound like a Pokemon.
"Matt Damon!" "Pika!" *zzzzap* "MaAaatT dAAAmON!!" *thud*
Liberals love welfare if it is for black people who kill other black people.
Liberals hate people who work because they want to take away more and more of the money they earn for working.
The phony liberals LOVE bigger government, especially to control people.
The Founding Fathers would be liberals? The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States.
I am outraged! How dare the History Channel tarnish themselves! They had built such a sterling reputation as a serious source of historical knowledge by churning out quality programming like "The Lost Book of Nostradamus." And now they've thrown it all away! The "History Channel Seal of Approval" used to mean so much. I must go weep now.
Can we have R. Lee Ermey do the follow up to this special?
Yes, because there's nothing more gosh-darn American than exiling people who don't share our political views. That's what freedom of speech is all about, right? That a bunch of yahoos who are consumed with hate and rage get to define what's allowed to be said in this country, and everyone else gets shipped off to Africa?
I love all you people who claim to love this country and yet are so terrified of everything it's supposed to stand for.
Does anyone else think of Team America when Matt Damon speaks?
Yeah just because he wrote himself a genius for a half-baked movie, doesn't make him one in real life. I thought his best part aside from "Team America World Police" was as the anti-Semitic creep in "School Ties." That was perfect casting, as Matty wasn't really acting IMHO..
I like "Pawn Stars," and "Axe Men," and of course a good war documentary will always do in a pinch. I didn't know that GE/Immelt owned it. Suppose I'll just vote with the remote, when little matty is on.
You know they still have those documentaries that you mentioned, but you got a point, as they are showing less and less of them. Kinda like MTV never shows music videos, etc anymore. You have to go to VH-1. or VH-1 classic to see anything related to music. I hope that this doesn't happen to History International, as well.
That's a pretty accurate way of summing it up.
Yeah I saw those, they played a couple of them a few days ago. Lincoln is the only one that is longer than 15 minutes. Agree on the BJ Klinton, but Jimmah Carter is a dreadful 15 minutes, as well.
The book is endlessly critical of the concept of "war for country". Like most kids, I read it b/c I saw the Metallica video, and I did like it (I found the movie unwatchable). I still like the book somewhat, because it is a shocking and original concept, it's well-written, and I can attempt to put myself into the time mindframe – WWI was pretty pointless. But I also gained more respect for Trumbo when he explained how he changed his mind during WWII. This is a nuance that people like Damon can't grasp – they really believe the banal, bumper-sticker expressions like "NO WAR!".
TTS2nd is a troll, not that they'll go away, but it's usually better to ignore them as they just like to stir things up, and then go back to HuffyPoo where they really belong. You're right though, TTS2nd has no rational points to make and if he/she did it's accidental.
Its pretty amazing how the author of this blog post manages to tell us in a dozen ways that this show is bad and we shouldn't watch it and its affiliated with all of these people who we're not supposed to like… but you know, he never bothers to show us what is bad about it?
I guess we're supposed to take his word for it and quietly move along?
I should hope it makes some of us curious to see Howard Zinn's The People Speak.
God forbid you see a crumb of evidence that the world doesn't conform to the way it pleases you to think of it!
I wish I could give you more than one thumbs up.
Facts are like kryptonite to the liberals, and Matty would've been destroyed. Probably the smartest thing he ever did, or the best PR advice he ever took.
What they should do is get rid of that moron that is Chris Matthews. Especially after what he said tonight after Obama's speech.
Howard Zinn is a discredited hack. I think most of the people on this site are aware of that. He's an anti-semitic, America-hating, communist. It's in his books, which many of us who went to college were forced to read. It's not like anyone's misinterpreting him. He's not ashamed of it. He thinks it's one of his finer attributes.
So, yeah, when I saw the Howard Zinn children's book in Barnes and Noble I nearly threw up on the stacks.
There is not a single frame that he's in where I don't hear "Matt Damon!!!!" in the back of my mind. Certainly makes his work that much more enjoyable though.
All I needed to see was the list of "talent" that will be participating to know this is some sort of Leftist history tour through the sins of America.
It's a real shame. Years ago, the History Channel used to be about actual history. The one where American's liberated the enslaved through firepower. Then, some years back, it morphed from "The History Channel" to just "History". Ever since then, it just seems like a lame knock-off of The Discovery Channel.
Now, they are completely abandoning their legacy for this tripe. As if there were not 300 other channels that they could use to broadcast Matt Da-mon and pals.
RIP History Channel.
You just discredited yourself. As you cannot refute Mr. Zinn's viewpoint and / or beliefs, you resort to histrionic name calling of the silliest kind. I've heard more sensible tirades from pro wrestlers… perhaps you're just channeling Sargent Slaughter?
I was "lucky" enough to see their craptacular show "History's Mysteries" while flying from LA to NYC back in 2002 or 2003. It was all about Skull and Bones. Yep, the secret society Bush was in at Yale. They went all out with the conspiracies and connections, including links to the "Illuminati". It was absolutely mind-boggling and laced with scary "Bush worships the devil" possibilities. Of course, Skull and Bones became simply a club when John 'effin' Kerry ran against Bush since he'd been in it, too. I guess their investigation proved that the "Illuminati" were not, after all, involved.
So, yeah, it's not like the brand has much further to fall.
Well, I guess Reid's healthcare plan should definitely fall under the banner of "things to fight" as far as Zinn's concerned. Considering "obedience to government" is codified in the atrocity and all … oh, right … he's a communist and what he says isn't what he means and I should know and accept that. Got it.
neocon,,,keep repeating that , neocon ,,,,neocon..necon
sounds Like neonazi…neonazi..neonazi
you are a shining example of liberal talking points, and a disgrace
to truth….." when the last liberal falls, we will blame the republicans "
yea,,,repeat that
These people are all delusional useless idiots. I love the part when that actor is reading Dalton Trumbo. Morgan Freeman who I am losing respect for has to read from Douglass? Why because they are both BLACKS and they want to pick at the damn scab of slavery? You think one of these jack off malcontents would read Madison, Adams, Jefferson, Monroe. When Madison was 8 years old he could read the Homer's Iliad in Greek. Why are we giving these educated derelicts any attention. They understand NOTHING…
Just happy to see what passes for conservatism continuing to reject intellectualism. Damn those smart people! Palin 2012! …. If you folks are going to keep digging, can I get you a bigger shovel?
Sir, we have sacred cows in this country,,
…And if I am correct ..their skin color is BLACK
It's absolute insanity how the people of this country bend over backward
kissing the backsides of black people..
when is enough , enough?
YOu say I support Palin 2012..
I do not ..but keep repeating Palin 2012 ….or " neocon . neocon, neocon"
keep saying stuff enough and it gets repeated as truth..
SP is not electable..but that dont mean I am a toe nail eating liberal
Funny, !!!
every time the Nostradamus crap comes up
I cannot get to my remote fast enough !!!
I also am quite the avid viewer of the History Channel and I did not know it was owned by Immelt Co. Next stop, the Military Channel, where Special Ops and Weaponology await my viewage. Heehee
LOL!! I remember that episode! Thanks for the memories! I will not be watching the History channel again until they start telling the truth!!!
Liberals are like whining teenagers. They'll complain about the living conditions and their 'rights', badmouth those who have enabled them to do the complaining, and yet, when given alternatives, they won't leave.
So is the country…and they are falling apart horribly, taken over by muslim groups and they are to PC to stop them!!
About 2 years ago they did a short bio on every single president. they had the nerve to suggest that Clinton was going to catch bin laden but he was too distracted by his impeachment.
damn right wing conspirators.
Hi folks. Well, it would appear that ComCast is going to own NBCU (NBC Universal along with all the specialty channels etc). From reading the blogs the ComCast crew are businessmen and not libs. It will be interesting to see whether they start making changes as soon as the deal goes through. It would be interesting to see whether they look at the ratings for msnbc and compare against fox and decide that this hard left bias is costing them money.
Now now!! Lets not insult the mentally handicapped by placing this melon head in that catagory….
Ok … As soon as you trotted out the "Truther" spiel I figured you out…. Have a happy existence with the other inhabitants of La-La land….
Seems like a great opportunity for a competing network to do an antidote like Politically Incorrect Guide to American History with a big conservative star, like Stallone, Gibson or Eastwood.
Damon is such a lightweight.
Actually , I didn't say that "you" support anything – and I didn't even mention "neocons" at all. I was simply posting "a new comment"(that's what the box at the bottom says) and responding to the hysterical nonsense("communist!"… "America Hater!"…) coming from the majority of people commenting on here. ..And If you don't support Palin, Beck, etc… then you're a hell of a lot smarter than the vast majority of the folks posting on this thread who do.
Are you quoting yourself? I'd say you have some mental issues.
I was done with Damon when he trashed Palin and I was done with the HC when their whole "argument" for global warming in one of their shows was a quote from Al Gore saying "there is no more debate." I'm sure this is up to their usual standards of accuracy– meaning it's total crap.
It is an Orwellian nightmare! The Islamic invaders are free to espouse extreme hatred at all levels. Any criticism from the indigenous population is often gaged by New Labours thought crime laws. People in and around Londonstan suffer the most but the Islamic plague is spreading rapidly throughout the land.
Forced marriages, honor killings, terror cells, ect. are becoming more common place everyday.
I apologize – I had not read your previous post. You're not a Palin supporter – just a racist. Sorry for implying that you were smarter than the other posters. My bad.
so sad to see the History channel fall for this propaganda. I used to enjoy the History Channel. But they do lie and they have a leftest agenda. I am not surprised.
So it's just another show of propaganda for the one..on why it's great living in America today because he's president right?
God I can't stand the douchebag that is Matt Damon.
Does anyone else think of Team America when Matt Damon speaks?
Oh yes…
"Matt Damon!" "Psy-ai-yiiiiii…." "Matt Damon!" "Bulbasaur!"
(There's a downside to working nights about ten years ago and channel surfing from boredom. Now I'm working nights again but fortunately Pokemon isn't on any of the channels I run into when I surf.)
Where's that birth certificate?? Stupid liberal nazis. Like slavery or institutional racism ever happened in this country, and people ever had to deal with it. Well shut up already! Yes, America may have been slightly evil in the past, but let's not talk about it. Unless it was one of them smelly libs who was evil. Oh and if it Rush says it's OK.
Oh, so they must be including the tea baggers and anti-health care reform protesters right. Also, seeing as the Glenn Becks, Limbaughs, Levin's, Breitbarts of the world are opposing certain policies, why not include them in the film?
"It's a real shame. Years ago, the History Channel used to be about actual history."
Bravo once had good middle- and high-brow entertainment. I also remember when A&E actually had programs that had, well, Art and Entertainment. And when TLC really was a learning channel.
Ask me again why I no longer watch television.
That sort of thing is all of a piece for mainstream television. Notice also how when there is any sign of discussing new nuclear power generating stations, the Movie Of The Week is… (ding!) The China Syndrome.
The People ARE speaking. When they do however, they get called all sorts of nasty names like teabaggers, nazis, a mob etc…
These leftwingers are acting as if they don't already have every imaginable media available to them express their views.
What is Matt's problem with America, I'd like to know. I mean, the guy fell into the butter tub long ago and has been slathering around in it ever since. What's eatin' him?
Good Will Hunting was and still is, an enjoyable movie for me, except where he mentions Zinn's book. But even there, you get the impression that it's one of those things that he's clueless about, like the smell inside the Sistine Chapel. So, it's easily dismissed, as Robin Williams' character does on topics the boy is out of his very naive range on.
But, for the History Channel, owned by NBC, I didn't know this, to air the rantings of Zinn with Damon's blessings and endorsement doesn't bode well for the objective education of young Americans so easily wooed by the star.
Flipped to the History Channel last night and what were they airing?…. A doomsday "documentary" about man's detrimental effects on the environment ; how the earth's seas will rise three feet in the next ten years and destroy all coastal cities… blah, blah, blah.
Yup. Dalton was extremely and eloquently patriotic about the importance of the American flag, as well. I'm sure Mr. Damon was taught all about it at Harvard and Hollywood. Not.
These people that say they are educators need to removed from the classroom and sent to Africa to teach. But before we let them go we need to show them how things are done here, we need to make sure that they have nothing, that they loose everything and that they are out in the street. Then we ship them overseas and make sure it’s one way, and I’m sure the Africans would live them. We do not need them and their brain washing of our children, these Marxist ……….
Free speech is one thing but twisting the truth or not telling the whole truth is just as bad a lie. And as we all know that politics in school is not the place for that, our children need to learn what this country is all about and the history behind it, not some Marxist point of view, if you want Marxist teaching go to Russia I’m sure they would be glad to teach you that or do you want to teach the little children that like someone else tried to do in the 1930’s in Germany? So wr1 you can take Matt and his buddy and move to Russia and I’m sure they would like what you have to say, as an American I don’t like someone who thinks others should die for your right to be free, I’ve been in the front lines you should try it.
The History Channel used to be excellent. I have many purchased tapes and DVD's of various shows they have shown over the years but have noticed their rapid decline over the years into revisionist history rather than factual history. I never knew NBC owned them and that explains everything about the decline in quality.
The History Channel is yet another example of how Liberals destroy anything they get their hands on.
She'll be one of the minority who does, as I posted earlier, I'll vote with the remote.
I saw a few of those back around President's Day.
One of the professors was talking about Washington turning down the offer to serve for life. Then he makes the comment "Can you imagine Richard Nixon just stepping down and giving up that power?" And I'm thinking, "that's just what he did!". He could have stayed in office and fought and dragged the whole thing out like Clinton did, but instead he stepped down.
Who's teaching our kids?
This post is full of win. It made up for the brain cells that died from reading the previous post.
The episode was called "Eye Of the Beholder". One of my favorites.
I shouldn't expect otherwise from someone with your name, but please remember that not all of us up here in Red Sox Nation are foaming at the mouth Libs.
Always.
Interesting that in the older trailer, Zinn says "Patriotism is not obiedience to the government. Patriotism is obedience to the principles for which goverment is supposed to stand."
Funny how leftists can toss around phrases like that and yet at the same time truly believe that it's the role of government to give everyone free healthcare, "affordable" housing, a college education, and a job. They're more than willing to "pledge to be a servant" to the government when the government promises to give them everything they want.
I've enjoyed many of the shows aired on the History Channel over the years, but have really been put off by the Bigfoot/UFO crap that they play continually now. And if it's not that it's Nostradamus, Hitler's paranormal beliefs or "The World After Humans", which as far as I can tell is just an excuse to create CGI images of famous monuments crashing to the ground (a la 2012).
As soon as I saw that Matt Damon was involved, my usually open mind snapped shut.
You do know that Howard Zinn risk his life for his country in WWII,don't you? Or do you presume all veterans are right wing teabaggers? Zinn's got more guts than Nolte and Breitbart had on their best days. Next time this site praises veterans,will you say "we love veterans,except Howard Zinn?"
Or Nostradamus…there's generally something new on History about Nostradamus every other week…
The History Channel. Matt Damon. "The People Speak". Aliens. Nostradamus. Global Warming. NBC.
Now it all adds up.
Thank you, John Nolte.
Nolte's comment that Zinn's allegations are, "some real, most imagined, all delivered without historical context…" is utterly inaccurate. This book is scrupulously researched, everything in it is real, nothing is imagined, everything is put into historical context. I doubt there's a single soul on this blog (including Nolte) who have actually read the book. Go to it. You'll learn something about this great country of ours.
Dalton Trumbo only changed his mind regarding WWII after Hitler broke his non aggression pact and invaded the Soviet Union.The man took his orders from Stalin plain and simple.
some of the programming is still pretty good. Don't give up the ship- yet…
No, he is quite right! Zinn writes interesting books but they belong in the fantasy section of the store!
Mago:
Thanks! You have an excellent point.
Zinn is a good example of how not to write history. His book includes blatant falsehoods and misrepresentations. He takes almost every negative allegation leveled at the United States and presents it as truth without bothering to research it. A good example is the "embalmed beef" scandal. Following the Spanish American War, Major General Nelson A. Miles charged that the War Department and contractors had provided soldiers with beef injected with various chemicals. An independent investigation, the Dodge Commission, found no evidence to support the charge and Miles never offered any proof other than his own testimony. Yet, Zinn presents it as truth in his work.
When the History Channel decides to tell the truth about WHY JFK (and Lincoln) was killed I might start watching again…until then they can keep their leftist crap!!
Mr. Zinn was a bommbadier in WW II; tough, admirable service. He was also a dedicated Lefty before that service and more so after. No one here has denigrated his military service. As well, no one here has suggested that military service exempts one from criticism. I crew on Blackhawk helicopters and I think Howard Zinn is a POS. Feel free to hate me.
For all the blue collar pretension of "Good Will Hunting", both Damon and Affleck were born and raised in Cambridge. Damon's upbringing was much closer to the MIT professors in the movie than its working class protagonist (people I lived among for a number of years). As a matter of fact, Howard Zinn was one of Damon's neighbors while he was growing up. It's safe to say that his exposure to Zinn and the psuedo-intellectual posturing of the oh so enlightened crowd at Havard warped his thinking from a very early age. Matt Damon was born a moonbat, Hollywood just provided him a platform. Too bad, I happen to like the Bourne series.
Howard Zinn has openly expressed support for Palestinian terrorists. I don't think I even have to refute that viewpoint it's so repulsive. See? But then, you might think that's another one of his glowing attributes. I don't know you, but I do know that if you agree with Howard Zinn, you are, at the very least, ill informed. I really hope you don't just hate for hate's sake. Why don't you look beyond the college profs and get your own information. You'll find they are often no more than pompous windbags who are full of scat. Not intellectuals at all. In fact, leftists are the antithesis of intellect, since they have — demonstrably — managed over the decades to degrade the level of education across continents.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're quite young and full of the enthusiastic bile that fills one in a college classroom. Good luck to you. You're going to need it.
Why not read all of them, including Zinn?
well see, right there, you provided a reason why I shouldn't read Zinn. That's all I'm asking this blog writer for!
There is too much of this "Here is how you should think and speak and write people…" coming from these media channels. And not enough "why".
No kidding! It's Bizarro Channel!
I knew History Channel was liberal, but did not know was NBC-owned. 'Splains a lot.
Here's another source:
http://hnn.us/articles/4370.htmlv
I don't know how to insert the actual link — sorry! — but this is an excellent debunking of Zinn's "People's History of the United States".
Yes, it would have been good if Nolte had provided some actual specifics, but blogs often don't and I didn't even notice since I already knew about Zinn. Maybe Nolte could link to some of the numerous discussions on the internet that take Zinn to the woodshed on his "bad history" (as scholars have called it). It wouldn't hurt to educate the masses before this travesty airs, eh?
I know Little Green Footballs used to post a lot of Zinn's idiocy (not in support of it!) but I don't know how to find anything on that site, so you'd have to search it up yourself — again, sorry I'm not more savvy in the ways of the 'net.
What mindless drival. I bet Antony considers himself a real intellectual since he throws around the whole "Zionist" rap. You sir are a complete and total idiot. I hope you injoy the change. Moron.
http://hnn.us/articles/4370.htmlv
I posted this in a reply earlier, but I think it should make the rounds. Zinn is not the shaman you believe. Sorry.
And, I'm not sure why you think serving in WWII or any other time exempts a person from criticism. Did you ever criticize John McCain? John Kerry? What about George H.W. Bush? Bob Dole? The list goes on. If service in wartime gives one a free pass, then you must have been mighty silent all these years.
I suppose we can expect this series to spend five or six hours and mulifarious hand-wringing on Joe McCarthy and Hollywood "blacklisting." Guys like Zinn and Damon NEVER get tired of that. It's like Chuchill said – "A fanatic is someone who can't change their mind and won't change the subject."
Just to make sure you see it. http://hnn.us/articles/4370.htmlv
Some think Zinn is just stupid to interpret historical fact as he does, and not a liar. Some think otherwise. But there is a pretty strong consensus of the learned who think he's full of beans, at any rate.
Even going to the Amazon forums for this book, I'll bet you'll find some pretty good discussion on it. A lot of hysterical nonsense from both sides, but those in the know will weigh in. Zinn is considered "fringe" by many for a reason.
Just to make sure you see it. http://hnn.us/articles/4370.htmlv
Some think Zinn is just stupid to interpret historical fact as he does, and not a liar. Some think otherwise. But there is a pretty strong consensus of the learned who think he's full of beans, at any rate.
Even going to the Amazon forums for this book, I'll bet you'll find some pretty good discussion on it. A lot of hysterical nonsense from both sides, but those in the know will weigh in. Zinn is considered "fringe" by many for a reason.
Matt Damon just issued a response to this article. He is quoted as saying, "Matt Damon".
[...] the channel. NBC-Owned History Channel to Air Howard Zinn’s ‘The People Speak’ from Big Hollywood by John [...]
I'm pretty sure History is not owned by NBC but by A&E Networks.
Actually, The History Channel has done quite a few things on Reagan and Nixon. When Reagan died, there was a 3-hour special that re-aired several times. They also have a Reagan Biography. As for Nixon, there are at least 3 documentaries I remember that aired on the History Channel. One was called "The Plot to Kill Nixon." Another was "A Presidency Revealed" and a third was a film about the Watergate interviews.
Quite a misleading headline here. Good to see how many just took it and ran with it. There should be a correction so others don't make the same mistake.
PaleoLiberal: History Channel is not owned per se by NBC. History is actually owned by AETN or A&E to the rest of the world. AETN is then a jointly owned company between Hearst and ABC with NBC owning somewhere in the neighborhood of 14% of the remainder. They neither have a board seat nor any control over the company.
NBC owns 14% of the parent company – hardly enough to make any programming decisions.
NBC does not own The History Channel. Nolte's headline is not accurate.
Howard Zinn's "Peoples History of the United States" is the only book my dog has eaten. A Great Dane with a critics eye toward rubbish. Too bad about Mr. Damon being sucked into this crap. He really should have done some research on the subject first.
That's a very scarey thought!!
That was "Eye of the Beholder" episode. TZ was prescient in its treatment of themes we see playing out every day.
and yes, i'm a TZ nerd
Matt Damon, he is the reason I will not go to see Eastwood's new movie. Matt Damon is just a bad person. Maybe he has done too many drugs or it was his public school education. Matt Damon, never watch anything he is in.
If and it's a big if we watch something on the History channel we KNOW that 98% is pure BS and the truth has been reworked. I never recommend using this channel to gain any information. It is pure propaganda. It is mostly a joke around our house.
Erm. What does Palin have to do with anything? Obsessed much?
I saw "The People Speak" at a film festival which included a Gala Q&A with Zinn, Brolin, Eddie Vedder and Producer Chris Moore among the guests and they kept acting as if none of this had been heard of by the general public but there wasn't anything I hadn't heard of…so I was like "so what?" The people speak…that's what's good about America…the people can speak. But no Tea Party discussion? Why? Are they not people speaking?
Completely unsurprising propaganda…would love to see a more balance people speaking.
-M
They are sacred because no one has the guts to tear them down for fear of being called a racist. Is that the best they have or are we all just damn cowards. Each one of us alive today has an ancestor who was a slave, murdered, raped, hung, going back thousands of years. Anyone who dwells on the injustices of the past is a loser going nowhere. Who cares all those people are dead and most are not even dust now all are in the graves of nameless people. Only thing that matters is the future, know your past but let it go and live for the future that we can create. In the old days scared cows were offered up to the Gods. They will read every leftist radical dogma in these useless films. None of them have the guts to read the writings of the men of the enlighten age. Leftist malcontents will always pour the gasoline on the fire, time to drench that fire out and move on.
Alright watch it already!
The History Channel is not owned by NBC. NBC is an investor in the parent company AETN. NBC has no control over the network.
To be perfectly fair, they had a point. The offer was not one of stepping down and thus getting the inevitable over with quickly, but one of being President FOR LIFE after being lauded as a hero.
Slight difference.
Sorry, but YOU sir, need to learn more about the First World War. I am serious: look in the German records from time to time: the Kaiserreich was NOT a boy scout jamboree, and they had no intention of behaving as such had they defeated the allies.
Which, while we are on the topic, is why I have NEVER been able to take people like Trumbo seriously. EVER. Certainly, it is one thing to portray the brutality of war, the devastating effect it can have on the individual and his life, and the costs of it. But for the love of GOD, please go elsewhere if you want to talk about the "pointless war that solved nothing", because a couple of letters into the archives of the Third OHL brings THAT concept regarding WWi to an epic wreck.
"I don't know about this particular work but I've noticed that most whinging from the neocons about such-and-such being "against America" turns out to be against the corrupt FEDERAL GOVERNMENT."
Have you EVER, EVER, EVER read Zinn? This is the !diot who believes we went to war with Japan to gain OIL rather than the other way around! Do you REALLY think this man is a decent judge of anything?
"Don't you recall Clinton whining about people daring to say they love their country but hate their government?"
Yes I do.
"The phony conservative Zionist Neocons LOVE government!"
Oh PUHLEAZE. Just because we believe government can be harnessed to do some positive things (WWI and WWII could never have been won by "Galt's Gulch"-esque Objectivist holes in the ground) and are not content to be eternally in the opposition (like we are now) for no real reason does NOT mean we will always shield government, as our current stance regarding Obama shows.
" Especially to fight wars with it"
Yes, when they are necessary. Your POINT?
"but they love their social programs, too."
Proof?
"And they love welfare if it is for a foreign nation that has murdered Americans like Israel has."
Oh, do you mean the friendly fire incident regarding the Liberty that was revealed BY ISRAEL and apologized for BY ISRAEL? The Lavon affair, that resulted in the downfall of an Israeli government and an apology BY ISRAEL?
If you call that "murdering" than NO NATION ON THE PLANET could receive our aid. Should we cut off support to BRITAIN because of the Revolution War and the War of 1812?
"Since when did conservatives become more liberal than Clinton?"
We ALWAYS have been more Liberal than Clinton OR the Dems, at least in the style that it was originally MEANT to mean: Democratic, Capitalistic, and Individualistic.
" The Founding Fathers would be liberals according to you"
Classical Liberals, yes. But as for "modern" "liberals", do you have any PROOF?
"they hated the idea of a standing army."
A. And so a standing army is a Leftist idea now?
B. They hated it, but they eventually realized that it was NECESSARY. Or do you think the Revolution was fought only by ill-armed local militia with no centralized command?
"Maybe you should look in to Smedley Butler's book "War is a Racket." Guess he hated America to…according to you?"
Already have. And no, he didn't HATE America, persee, he just had NO FRICKING CLUE ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON.
The "Rackets" he mentioned in Latin America occurred at a time when the US was fighting a quasi Cold War with Imperial Germany to try and prevent Latin America from becoming proxies of the Kaiser. Butler himself noted the preponderance of German arms in the hands of the Haitian and Dominican Rebels, he just never seemed to have made the connection, though to be fair, few did. But had the US failed to check Imperial Germany in WWI and had it lost control of Latin America at this time, the threat of an invasion by a foreign host on the East Coast- a specter we had not faced since 1815- would have taken a MASSIVE step towards
being a real nightmare.
It is things like THAT that Butler never accounted for when he pronounced war a racket. It is things like THAT that you and your ilk never seem to figure out. Fortress America will only remain safe as long as we can prevent any hostile force from gathering enough firepower and strategic positions to batter it down, which is best achieved by taking the fight to them, so they do not take the fight to us.
How little we learn.
"USS Liberty attack."
As I mentioned, that was probably a legitimate case of misidentification, where they mistook our ship for a falsely flagged Arab League when. Which is perfectly reasonable when you recognize that we apparently never told them that the Liberty was there, and so they did not know of any American ships that fit the bill.
"Also, the Lavon Affair which was a false flag terrorism attack carried out by our fine allies who are famous for this rather disgusting tactic."
Perhaps, but we would probably have done more or less the same in their circumstances, and have already (Operation Ajax being perhaps the most infamous case). And again, their attacks were not directed against the West- though they did intend to sabotage our assets- but against Nasserite Egypt with the intention of currying Western favor and stopping a potential invasion by Cairo. It was hardly pleasant, and I hardly regret that Lavon was kicked out, but it is hardly unusual in the intelligence world, and I must note that the Israelis have not tried anything similar since then.
" Many think they were involved in 9/11"
And many think that Communism works. THINKING has little to no objective, concrete value. It is a tool to be used to find the truth, but does not create the truth by itself.
" and the 5 Israelis arrested at the scene filming and jumping for joy support that."
Perhaps, but it is utterly debunked when you look at the volume of evidence we have for Al Qaeda. The main conclusions we can draw from the five jumping Israelis is that they were dicks.
"I bet the film showed the first plane strike."
Fair enough. But what does this necessarily prove?
" They certainly benefitted which Netanyahoo GLOATED about."
Which was downright painful but still does not qualify as proof of anything more than six Israelis being dicks.
"As for military, even today no threat justifies a standing army."
Sorry, are you DELUSIONAL? You DO realize that if they so wanted to, the Mexican army could probably be across the Rio Grande before we really knew about it? And this is before we get into the "A-list" threats from China (where they have literally dozens of MILLIONS of REGULARS alone), Russia, and perhaps indonesia. We damn well SAW the folly of mothballing our army in 1941-42, and in this modern, digital age, the threat is compounded by THAT much. The militia could not even hold the British back in any campaign save Boston (where we outnumbered them and had VERY advantageous terrain) and the South (where it was more a matter of logistics than anything else). HOW THE HE!! do you expect them to hold back the PLA?
And this is without getting on to the necessity to aid our allies overseas, say if Russia decides it is a good time to take Poland and the Baltics back. HOW can your militia deal with THAT?
"Each state could have their guard that could be activated."
Wonderful. You are proposing our entire land arm be replaced by a series of under-strength local units with painfully little central organization that are only trained irregularly and have a gross dearth of highly-trained units or units capable of carrying out special operations. And this is without bringing up the nasty clusterfarks that could come with a potential secession or coup attempt. Or the necessity to have these units fight abroad.
"At the very least we need to guard the border which we AREN'T doing despite it being a legitimate use of the military."
Agreed.
"…unlike wars of occupation halfway round the globe."
And when we find one, we will condemn it. But the War on Terror is hardly an illegitimate use of our military. And pray tell me how much harder do you think the job of your Super National Guard would be if there were foreign shelters like Pre-liberation Afghanistan and iraq- effectively IMPERVIOUS to the part-time units that compose the National Guard- that churn out Islamists destined for foreign martyrdom?
You CLEARLY haven't thought this through.
While I do believe it was bad form to knock the show without watching it (and after all, somebody has to jump on the grenade for the rest of us), I have had the acute displeasure of reading Zinn. At his very, very, VERY Best he brings some interesting accounts that give pause for thought, even if that pause if a second or so.
His usual fare, however, if mind-bogglingly bad. Seriously. The man claims the US STARTED the War with Japan. To GAIN OIL. The same commodity we had so much of, we used it to threaten Japan with embargo unless they stopped their aggression. A fact that a map of oil reserves from the 30's or 40's would have SHOWN.
I can't make this up.
You have a point, but with Zinn, it is guilty until proven innocent.
Trust me, gu'vner; if you have ever READ Zinn and accept his claim to be a forefront of "intellectualism", you would KNOW his intellectualism has nothing to do with intelligence. Not even CLOSE.
"And If you don't support Palin, Beck, etc… then you're a hell of a lot smarter than the vast majority of the folks posting on this thread who do."
I highly, HIGHLY doubt that. Particularly when you are the one judging supposed "intelligence."
Your apology to "the other posters" is accepted, knave. Because unlike you, some of us actually KNOW Zinn's work, and the truth of the matter is that he is very, very bad when it comes to writing history, even the non-objective history that he claims he aims for.
And the reason for that stupid and remarkably off-topic straw-man fest was WHAT?
"You do know that Howard Zinn risk his life for his country in WWII,don't you?"
Yes I did. But THAT does not excuse him from slander and spreading lies. I have not forgiven the likes of Eisenhower for HIS epic bungling in his Presidency, so why should I forgive Zinn's lesser but far less excusable misconduct?
"Or do you presume all veterans are right wing teabaggers?"
No. Particularly since I know many Lefty Vets and I know many who are fanatical coffee fans. And I know many that overlap. Your point would be?
" Zinn's got more guts than Nolte and Breitbart had on their best days."
Perhaps. We will see. But guts alone do not justify dishonor and intellectual dishonesty.
"Next time this site praises veterans,will you say "we love veterans,except Howard Zinn?""
Nope. We would have to include John Kerry, and a host of others. It is a good idea, and I would pitch on so long as it is kept reasonable, but I don't think the bandwith would take it.
"Nolte's comment that Zinn's allegations are, "some real, most imagined, all delivered without historical context…" is utterly inaccurate. "
Have you EVER studied history?
"This book is scrupulously researched, everything in it is real, nothing is imagined, everything is put into historical context."
Which leads to glowing gems like the idea that we the US FORCED Japan into war so that we could obtain oil. Nevermind that we had oil and they didn't. I cannot make this stuff up.
" I doubt there's a single soul on this blog (including Nolte) who have actually read the book."
Then let your doubts go away. Because I have had the acute displeasure of it. And I am NOT pleased.
" Go to it. You'll learn something about this great country of ours."
Yes. That it is possible to write a "history book" that will be praised to high hilt in spite of it bearing only coincidental resemblance to actual history.
As someone who owns a copy of "A people's history…" I know the man's work very well. He merely tells the story of those who have traditionally been oppressed(the poor, women, the non-European, etc..) and whose contributions to our history have been left out of the history books. No wonder people on here react with such hostility. That's why you attack my comment, as opposed to the blatant racism offered by wwgt. Says everything we need to know. Keep digging!
Your comment above that Zinn claims, "…we the US FORCED Japan into war so that we could obtain oil." is also inaccurate. Here's the passage from the book: "It was when Japan threatened potential U.S. markets by its threatened takeover of China, but especially as it moved toward the tin, rubber and oil of Southeast Asia, that the United States became alarmed and took those measures that led to the Japanese attack: a total embargo…in the summer of 1941." p410.
So the claim is not that they had oil but that they needed oil and were challenging us for that scarce resource. Also that they were threatening our markets for those commodities. These are facts and represent a reasonable and well supported interpretation of the events leading up to WWII.
The point of People's History is that (up til now) we have mostly been force fed one version of history but there are other, more nuanced ways, of reading the factual record than the "America First" POV of the standard texts found in our schools.
Zinn is a worthless historian and even some leftists recognize this.
http://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/?article=3...
Can't get it anyway – Cablevision took it away from the Family package and I refuse to pay for a cable box, digital card or iO.
There are still some shows I like. However, I have given up on History ever returning to its once glorious roots.
Oi vey… i forgot all about that: “A People’s History of the United States".. I actually have a copy of that book somewhere in the backseat of my car… I had dumped it in there before I moved to St. Louis, and I forgot all about it. I never read the whole thing.. but the damn professor bought a copy for everyone in his "Ethics" class. (I think i got through the first story before throwing it in a storage box originally, just because I couldn't stomach it.
Why do people get so mad when an opposing view is brought to the table??? America has done a lot of great things but has also done a lot of horrible things as well and if we don't learn from our mistakes we're doomed to repeat them. If you're unwilling to accept another point of view than just stick to Fox News and John Wayne movies.
Not sure what being a war veteran has with being a good historian. Ed Wood was a heroic WWII marine, but a lousy filmmaker. Admiral Stockdale was a herioic Vietnam veteran, but no great shakes as a VP candidate. I don't mind a bit of iconoclasm- I've written extensively of Henry Ford's unfortunate streak of anti-semitism, for example. But Zinn's histories are selective, ham fisted farces that are low on nuance or balance and high on propaganda. To call some of his sources questionable is being generous. For example, using David Irving as a source on WWII is probably not the best idea, considering his infamous Holocaust denials (but, hey, so long as he's trashing the US I guess he's ok for old Howard).
As for Matt Damon, I think he's still trying to make amends to his demagogue for starring in "Saving Private Ryan." Zinn wrote an article called "Private Ryan Saves War" which trashes that movie pretty thoroughly and which compares Steven Spielberg with Henry Kissinger (!). Hard to believe people take this guy seriously.
Sorry- just to clarify, this was a response to BillyPilgrim84 and not Turtler.
So that you could try to change the subject. Didn't work. Either disown your side's Teabagger/Birther/"I want my country back"/BS, or expect to be lumped in with it. That simple.
SNAP!!!!!
hey matt, you little boy, you are too young and stupid to know anything. nobody believes hollywood or nbc crap. sack up boy. people died for your right to spew such synicism. you should be jailed for sedition!
I'm starting to hear the expression "Christian Mythology" a lot on TV. As opposed to "According to the Quaran.." or "ancient Mayans predicted…"
Excuse me. Mentally Challenged is the correct way. I know because I am. How can you compare MD with me? How dare you!!! How dare you!!! I…I…I'm gonna do something about this!!! You'll see! You'll see! You, are a very bad person!
Damon god damns America but sure enjoys the good life.
NewsBusters: NBC-Owned History Channel to Air Leftist Howard Zinn's 'The People Speak'
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/john-nolte/2009/12/0...
[...] Note: The following was originally published December 1, 2009 at Big Hollywood, where Nolte is [...]
[...] Zinn’s book as been used a high school and college textbook and has become the backbone of a History Channel special presentation which purpose appears to be little more [...]
So, Mr. Zinn's views a revisionist history? I guess so, after all the history tought at schools and portrayed in the media (including the History channel) is full of lies and omissions, and whose purpose is to mainly indoctrinate people into believing that the system is just and fair, and that any injustices are mere trivial mistakes. So, yes in this respect it is revisionist and a welcome point of view at that. I'm sure it makes lots of people uncomfortable that some of their more cherished beliefs are being challenged, so be it.
It took me all of five minutes to find outright distortions in this. In the section "Mutiny in George Washington's Army performed by Mike O'Malley" he mentions a revolutionary soldier by the name of Samuel Dewees who witnessed an execution of some other soldiers for mutinous behavior. Even if we forget about the time and place of these events and realize that such punishment was common at the time, the quotation read is taken completely out of context. Here is a link to what Mr. Dewees actually said about this incident:
http://www.archive.org/stream/ahistorylifeand00ha...
He laments the execution but goes on to say that the commanders who ordered it did so for the good of the country and that punishment in these matters was necessary. I find it disgusting that Washington is being disparaged in this way, without him this nation would not exist as we know it. Do these leftists wish that were the case?
I gave up History Channel for the Military channel..better programming all the time.
I would not pay to see ANYTHING Matt Damon and his ilk produce. The SOONER sponsors realize how people like me resent these people preaching their beliefs to us the better. I do not think it is fair and I resent their using their celebrity to spread their ideology. I say we boycott….that is where it will hurt them the most.
We must watch this just so we know what these idiots are saying (I have it on right now…..yes, it's crap). We need to know what the enemy is saying before we can accurately & effectively debunk it.
The right never complains about the unbalanced Fox network. I guess to go around with your head in the sand and think we treated the Blacks, American Indians, poor people, etc equally, is easier than to accept the truth.
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