(Updated) ‘Brothers’: Another Hollywood Slam on the Military?
by John Nolte
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Due out December 4th, “Brothers“ is a remake of a 2004 film called “Brodre,” which is summarized in part on IMDB with the following nugget:
Then Michael comes home with a full-blown case of post-traumatic stress disorder because of what he had to do to survive in captivity.
Leftist Hollywood loathes everything the American Military stands for: Honor, patriotism, selflessness and masculinity. Openly trashing the troops backfired decades ago, so the tactics had to change. Today, “support” for the troops is reflected in film after film after film stereotyping America’s best and brightest as victims, dupes, head cases and monsters.
Things have gotten so twisted in this area that a film like “The Hurt Locker,” where an American Colonel lets an Iraqi suspect bleeds to death — where the lead character is so mentally warped by war, so addicted to chaos, he can’t love his own son — is considered pro-military, even by some conservatives.
Sure, each individual film might be defensible in some way as “factual” or “realistic,” but you have to look at the cumulative effect of the same “factual” and “realistic” focus pumped into theatres again and again and again…
Popcorn flicks tend to be better about this than these Oscar-trolling melodramas, but when Leftist Hollywood has “a message to send,” this is the message.
UPDATE: Before I forget, let me state up front that I’m well aware this post breaks the all-important rule which states only Leftists are allowed to speculate, analyze and comment on films they haven’t seen based on trailers and the like…
There’s a whole industry of Leftist critics and film writers devoted to going on at length about their impression of upcoming films. But when someone on the right does it … well, that’s just wrong. Unless, of course, we like the movie. Then nobody ever complains, “How do you know you’ll like the movie…”
Yeah, it’s a squirrely rule, but I was aware of it beforehand and will not complain about the coming consequences.
SECOND UPDATE: The only effective part of the trailer is seeing Natalie Portman on ice skates. It’s whachoocall “bittersweet,” because it takes you back to her enchanting and memorable turn in “Beautiful Girls.” Such promise.
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Great! I just saved $50 by not watching another new movie!
Give me Zulu any time.
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Meh… I wasn't going to go see it anyway after the drival Natalie Portman came up with on HuffPo (though that's nothing new on HuffPo)
Not to threadjack, but Activision signed away the rights to make Call of Duty into a movie. Which entry in the series will be adapated to my knowledge is yet to be released, by given the sales figures, most likely Modern Warfare. Whether it will be good or bad is really up in the air.
The game itself is solid, and since it's a first-person shooter (as opposed to say a fighting game like Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter) it's a genre that lends itself better to be made into an action movie. However, something tells me they might pull one of 3 cards out of the deck: PC villians (See Sum of All Fears, Syriana, etc.) Uwe Boll (House of the Dead, Alone in the Dark) or WWII (not to bash, but it's been done, and making a WWII game into a movie at about the same time The Pacific is coming out just seems like a bad idea)
Screw Hollywood and their continuing lard-fest of anti-military movies! We are reliving the 70's!….. and they're remaking everything from the 70's… ha! Obviously, it's not them… it's us in the fly-over states "just not getting it".
A better plot would have been the soldier returning home to find a psychopath trying to seduce his wife. Besides the anti-military slant, this looks like it at least has good performances.
I liked The Hurt Locker.
This post summarizes the exact conversation I had with my girlfriend when I first saw the preview last night (on Veteran's Day, too – classy touch). Except that I added my opinion that this movie will do under $40m and, despite little popular appeal, will be loved by critics and probably nominated for some awards. Big Hollywood needs some kind of activist area – how do we organize to make it clear that Hollywood's view of our military and its veterans is not the conventional view? Besides not patronizing their movies, which obviously isn't working.
I think Nolte's thinking to hard about this one. It looks like an incredibly lame drama for women who can't get enough Lifetime movies. Nothing more, nothing less.
And I agree with Matt, The Hurt Locker was good.
POSSIBLE SPOILER:
Not to push what's probably a false hope, but the reason for the soldier's mental breakdown in the Danish original involves his captors forcing him to kill a fellow soldier/technician. So depending on the spin by Hollywood, this could POSSIBLY lead us to blame the terrorists in Afghanistan rather than the US military.
If this is the case, we could see it as something other than a simple anti-military narrative. Here's hoping, anyway.
Actually the 70's produced some great movies, to be honest.
Yes and Obama did a pretty good job yesterday calling them victims also:
“We call this a holiday, but for many veterans, it’s another day of memories that drive them to live their lives each day as best as they possibly can,” Mr. Obama said. “For our troops, it is another day in harm’s way. For their families, it is another day to feel the absence of a loved one and the concern for their safety. For our wounded warriors, it is another day of slow and arduous recovery. And in this national cemetery, it is another day when grief remains fresh.”
Hurt Locker being good and pro-military are wo different things…
"good" is relative… I'll debate anyone on the idea it's "pro-military."
People crying and emoting and staring into nothingness, snow, doe-eyed Jake Gyllenhaal as yet another damaged veteran with PTSD, whiny music. How can people not conclude they have to see this?
Yes, it´s just the trailer. Heaven forbid we judge a movie by its trailer. There might be an exciting bank heist subplot they don´t tell us about, or something… there´s gotta be a pony in there somewhere…
It's still a traumatized by war story. he's still a victim.
How about a movie where a screw up goes into the military and comes out a man?
Even the 70s had better anti-military movies. I´d rather see a movie like "Who´ll stop the rain" if only because Nick Nolte and Tuesday Weld are more interesting to watch than Jake Gyllenhaal and Natalie Portman. And if "The Deer Hunter" is far from the masterpiece people thought at the time, at least it has great actors at the top of their game, gorgeous cinematography and russian roulette which is inherently suspenseful. And it doesn´t turn the Vietcong into heroes. No, the 70s may have invented the odious "veterans are either victims or ticking time bombs" shibboleth, but at least it was new back then. Today, it´s just degenerate.
John you could write that story and give it truth. The problem is they wouldn't pick it up. They don't want that image out there to give hope to some kid who thinks he is a loser but knows he needs something to direct his energies. That is way too positive for this leftist world on negativity. You're a hell of a writer you should be writing these ideas one day they may get made.
The only parts of Hurt Locker i didn't like were the slams against the military. Not because they were slams, but because it slowed the movie down.
Example: when he broke into the professor's house looking for the kid. The very idea was unbelievable and the dialogue was even more unbelievable. It's just poor film making.
The rest of the movie was awesome. Well shot, well acted, perfect special effects and action. At a Q & A i found out they had random explosions go off to keep the actors tense. That's passionate film making.
I've always said that if today's Hollywood could make anti-war films even half as well as what came out of the glorious seventies, the Iraqi people would've been screwed.
Thank heaven for mediocrity!
http://www.protestwarrior.com/ might be a start… i know its not exactly a protest we have to go up against… but…
The only effective part of the trailer is seeing Natalie Portman on ice skates. It’s whachoocall “bittersweet,” because it takes you back to her enchanting and memorable turn in “Beautiful Girls.”
It reminds me of something, too. Didn´t she do a short where she is naked all the time? I wonder if it´s online.
I know, but most of the military movies from the 70's were slightly to mostly anti-military and full-in on the soldier/victim meme or wacko , etc. All the military movies of the period were framed with anti-establishment/ anti-authority stuff in them. Yeah, some were still good watching…. my point was though, that Hollywood made a concerted effort post-vietnam to make the military unsympathetic, idiotic, or perverse.
Jake Gyllenhaal and Toey Maguire talk about a duo from the hall of shame!
PS. Wasn't this movie done before? It was called "Legends of the Fall".
Or a unicorn. I might go see it if there is a unicorn.
We agree sir.
I saw that too! I had just finished watching "Taking Chance" on HBO and was still drying my eyes when I changed the channel in time to catch the "Brothers" preview. It just made me sad to think so many military movies are more of the latter than the former. I hope it tanks.
I agree with you Mr. Nolte. Why aren't there more movies where a punk goes into the service and comes out a better and stronger man? That is generally what happens. Its true many people come out with post-traumatic stress but the idea that men/women in uniform should be feared is ridiculous. They turned this movie into a horror flick.
I'm a former Marine who served in Iraq twice and I don't know anyone who became a psycho even after fighting in the worst battle of the last 40 years (Operation Phantom Fury / Al Fajr: The assault on Fallujah 2004).
The movie might be interesting but I have a feeling it will probably just upset me to see how the idea that men and women are coming back from battle completely undone are being exploited. These Hollywood types are completely out of touch and have no idea what really happens.
Well, and as she said- she's too ugly for Hollywood. I can't bear to waste my money on ugly people.
Based on a true story!
http://www.amazon.com/Hard-Corps-Gangster-Marine-...
I really don't understand how the same actress that gave such an enchanting performance in Beautiful Girls can be what we see now. Between George Lucas and Harvard, something sucked her talent dry.
Look, Jake Gyllenhaal is in it … it can't be anything other than leftist, anti American agitprop. Period.
Today, “support” for the troops is reflected in film after film after film stereotyping America’s best and brightest as victims, dupes, head cases and monsters.
There was a program on PBS last night called "Tattooed Under Fire" that did just this. On Veteran's Day, of course.
An indy preceeding this was better. Called "The Way We Get By", it profiled a group of older folks, many of them veterans, who find satisfaction and an aid against loneliness by meeting at the Bangor, ME airport to greet inbound or see off outbound troops. Though this was more "pro-volunteer" (for Obama's service agenda) than "pro-military", at least it wasn't clearly anti-military/anti-war.
PBS is still reliably leftist.
So when IS "Zulu" in all its 65mm splendiferousness coming out in Blu-ray, anyway?
I have no idea. For some reason not only had I never heard of the movie before, I never even heard of the battle, and that's strange because one of my bigger hobbies is military history. What fascinates me so much is just how fast, and how much, war changes the path of history. For example in a period of only about 5 years, WWII forced Japan to remake their entire society.
Mr. Hank Scorpio – a frequent poster – highly recommended it. And a couple of weeks later, I was channel surfing and there it was just starting. My wife hates those kind of movies, so I hit record and watched it later that evening, and I was knocked out by it.
I've only seen it twice so far, but I'm waiting for my next chance. Powerful story, compelling performances, stunning vistas. I've never been in a war, but I have to believe that was about as close to what its really like as I've seen since Saving Private Ryan.
None of these movies have done squat at the box office, but coming on the heels of the Fort Hood massacre, where the left has been trying to blame PTSD for Hasan's murder spree (even though he's never served in combat) and then extrapolate that out to indict U.S. war policies in general, I doubt the public's really going to want to hear anything for the near future involving an anti-war movie that uses PTSD as its hook.
I think all you need to see is toby macguire in Frankenstein mode in the trailer to know what this film is all about.
It looks like it is taking its main story line from the anti-millitary, anti-vietnam war movie coming home and putting it in the war on terror.
It's hard to tell from the trailer, but since I saw this movie at a studio screening, I can give you some details… Consider this your official SPOILER ALERT:
At the end of this movie, Jake Gyllenhaal's character goes back in time to make sure a jet engine falls on him before any of the movie's events actually take place. This makes Tobey Maguire's character never want to join the Army and instead moves to NYC where he's bitten by a genetically-modified spider. Because in this timeline Natalie Portman's character never meets Spider-Tobey in NYC, her character gets married to the much older French guy that lives in the apartment across the hall from her, and it's revealed that Jake died wearing Heath Ledger's flannel shirt… all in a montage set to a disco/emo cover version of "Relax" by Frankie Goes to Hollywood sung by Adam Lambert.
Tanaka, please, get real. It is going to be another anti-millitary attack, I'll bet you on it.
True. I guess I'm just no in need of a good movie that I'm projecting… *SIGH*… Hollywood…
I hate to tell you this…. but, women often cheat on their husbands while they are deployed. The men come back and not only is their favorite comfy chair sold… but, so is their car, stereo equipment and the money is all gone. Can you imagine being held captive, finally getting free and coming home only to find out that your family has moved past you? It happens every day (okay, not the captivity part)…
From the trailer you cannot tell whether or not this is an anti-war/anti-troop, pity movie. You've jumped to conclusions.
Wow, I was just looking up the films under the dupe, headcase etc… listed by Mr. Nolte, I had no idea grace is gone was an anti-war film. And I never realized just how numerous these anti-war on terror movies were until you start listing them. How would we have won WW2 if these people had been in hollywood and in the press.
I will not watch another movie that in any way, shape, manner, diminishes the sacrifice that the men and women of the military make every second of every day. I will take that money and put it in an envelope and send it to all the charities (USO, Wounded Warriors etc. . . ) that actually supports theses men and women. If you have a political point to make, run for office, do not use the plight of these men and women to diminish their acts of bravery and sacrifice. They are suffering so you can be free; that freedom begets responsibility, and ought not be perverted in this fashion.
So say we all.
thats because their committed to really REALLY please the socialists.
when you put millions of dollars into a project… there's a lot of HARD THINKING going on.
Whenever Hollywood makes a movie about war or the military lately, I save money. The more unwatchable crap they make, the less movies I need to see that year.
Ok, this one had me laughing. A+ for tying together plot strings that have no business being in the same zip code.
Yet another in the long list of new films I won't be seeing. Is it too hard for Hollywood to make something worth seeing these days?
She said *when* she's too ugly for Hollywood. At the moment she's smokin' hot – it's just her mind that's turned to vegetarian Jell-O.
I swear, I think there's something in their studio contracts that REQUIRES actors to become fringe flakes. Some of the braver ones scratch out the Flake clause, others don't and the next thing you know they're on TV "educating" us about some weird shit they read about that "changed their lives." If reading a book about diet or exercise or global warming changes your life, your life must have been pretty empty to start with.
Zulu is a huge favorite in our house. No matter how many times I see it, when they sing to bolster their courage in the face of overwhelming odds, the emotional impact is HUGE!
I would agree that The Hurt Locker is not a "pro-military" film – it's a character study as to why people go to war. The opening quote, "The rush of battle is a potent and often lethal addiction, for war is a drug", pretty much sums up the film's message, and its biases.
But in terms of a suspense action film, The Hurt Locker is second to none. And it is possible to enjoy a film that runs counter to your political views. I can't imagine anyone in Hollywood today agreeing with the message of "One the Waterfront", yet it is still regarded as one of the best movies ever made (though Hollywood's adoration of that movie could be similar to Mark Twain's quip about classics, "Something that everyone loves that no one has read").
I don't really care about the film's messages. All I know is that it looks absolutely terrible. Melodramatic, self-important twaddle by a director who really needs to get in touch with Daniel Day-Lewis again.
Due out December 4th, “Brothers“ is a remake of a 2004 film called “Brodre,” which is summarized in part on IMDB with the following nugget:
So what they are saying is that this movie sucked so bad only 5 years ago they would remake it to torture everyone again. Arent the hollywood people suposed to be creative, smart and artistic. then why is it they can never come up with new ideas instead they take crapy films and make crapier films.
The part that blows me away the most is the powerful last charge the Zulus. The engineer or Michael Caine (I'm not familiar with the names – yet) set up the classic British (probably Napoleonic, not sure) of three lines. One shoots, then reloads, the next shoots, then reloads, and so on.
It keeps the volley going non stop. It's the same concept used in one version of anti-missile defense. They basically throw the equivalent of a huge lead garage door at an incoming, and something is bound to get hit.
The biggest problem with Hurt Locker – besides the preposterous depictions of actual EOD work – was that in the real Army (Nav/AF/MC) the whack-job main character would never have made it through the psych screening- or if he did, he would have been quickly noticed and quietly transferred to depot duty. There is *no* room for cowboys in that business.
Plus, just wait for Avatar. As a film buff I'm pretty much obligated to see it because James Cameron has never made a movie that wasn't a technical landmark, but I can tell already from the previews that it's a ham-handed allegory about Iraq and Afghanistan: a technologically advanced military invades a foreign land so exploit the resources, only to be resisted by a simply yet noble people. Gag me.
"So depending on the spin by Hollywood, this could POSSIBLY lead us to blame the terrorists in Afghanistan rather than the US military."
I ain't holding my breath.
In Hollywood, if you bring the wife into a military plot, it's usually for one of two reasons–either she is going to cheat on her husband OR he is going to die. But in the real world, the number of military wives who stay true and stay married despite the hardships of separation, worry, money woes, single parenthood, and loneliness is tremendous, and their stories are all too often glossed over or completely ignored. It's a crying shame–the richness of those stories would make some wonderful movies.
Other than wishing that there was some way, in the light of last week's tragedy, they could have shifted this film, I have no feeling about it. I suspect it won't do well for the reason many of these grim dramas haven't been doing well – everything around us is grim – the economy, the job market, the venality of those who are supposed to be devoting their lives to "public service". There is a reason screwball comedies and Shirley Temple were thriving during the Depression, and there's a reason escapist animation and even horror are doing well today. There is a saying about a message, attributed to Goldwyn. What he said.
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Yup. Same with songs too.
The combination of precision, training, and restrained emotion is undeniably powerful. The roll call at the end gets me too–combination humor and pathos. "You're alive–I've seen you. Answer when your name is called."
As purely a customer, and having nothing to do with the entertainment industry (though I wouldn't be surprised if my business helps their bankers move an awful lot of money around), my take on trailers is this is what the person putting it together thinks are the best scenes.
This is especially true with comedies. My opinion is the trailers usually reflect what are considered the best jokes.
So the thought always going through my head is, it's all down hill from here.
Ha – makeup, lighting, and computer airbrushing can make anyone beautiful. And when that fails, you can always go under the knife.
Find pictures of celebrities without their makeup on – it's revealing. Anyone who says in shape can be made to look beautiful with movie magic.
"You're alive–I've seen you. Answer when your name is called."
I cracked up so hard at that joke.
That actor really nailed what's need in times of total chaos. A strong, steady hand, some life raft the soldiers can cling to so they can keep at least part of their sanity.
It reminds me of the trailer for a Mel Gibson Vietnam war moive some years ago that I never did get around to watching.
"I will be the first one of the chopper, and the last one back on."
Agreed. We Were Soldiers–excellent flick. Mel Gibson's character was a man men would follow into combat. I also thought his wife's character and the role she played on the base back home was very well done.
Don't worry. Since Natalie Portman is in it, that proves it's the usual anti-military bull feces anyway.
They had Phil Ochs and Joan Baez, we have Green Day.
I'm reminded of that old Voltaire quote about how the only thing he ever prayed for was to be given stupider enemies — and God complied.
How would we have won WW2 if these people had been in hollywood and in the press.
Assuming that's a question (and not a rhetorical one), the simple answer is that we wouldn't have won. Somebody once did a hilariously dark take — I wish I could find it — on how today's media would have reported D-Day; they suggested that the modern MSM would have leaked details of the invasion, and then relentlessly excoriated FDR and Eisenhower for sending American soldiers into a meat grinder.
Liberal men of the artistic class despise veterans for the same reason that liberal women despise Sarah Palin. Our very existance gives lie to their swaggering conceit.
It is an even better book. The guy, LT Gen, Harold G. Moore (ret) wrote a chilling and detailed account, VERY compelling read…
And yes, from all appearances, he was just that kind of leader in real life.
Of course Hollyweird is slamming the military. The days of Jimmy Steward commanding a wing of bombers over Germany are "long, long ago… In a glaxy far, far, away…"
Women who cheated on their ddeployed husbands were called " TDY WIDOS" when the Viet Nam war was being waged.
So say I.
I am proud of my time on active duty, and in the National Guard. I served with great people doing tough stuff, and I was all peace time service.
We owe our way of life to all the grandpa's dying out there who beat the Nazi's and Imperial Japan.
'Nuff said!
Very true. And soldiers cheat on their wives, come home and kick the wife out. And civilian men who aren't under stress cheat on their wives due to boredom and kick the wife out. Civilian woman who are nothing more than bored cheat on their husbands and either leave or kick the husband out.
I can tell you one thing I know for sure. This movie will not be about a soldier who overcomes horrendous captivity, struggles manfully with the repercussions of his wife and brother cheating while he was gone and makes something of himself despite tremendous odds.
Hahahaaa!!! Awesome! But aren't you forgetting the part where Spider-Tobey gets sucked back into a '50s black-and-white show and teaches all the squares how to be bohemian? Using Jake's time-traveling powers, no doubt…
From what I understand, that scene wasn't in the cut I saw because it included some Jake and Tobey guy-on-guy action that only appealed to to 1 out of 4 teenage girls (but 10 out of 10 Erasure fans).
If PBS gets any of my money for their leftist agenda, it will be at the point of a government gun.
It sure as hell will never be voluntary on my part>
Oh no not Natalie Portman! Most overrated actress since I don't know when. Cannot remember one movie she was in that she didn't ruin with her subpar acting skills.
That would have been the Onion. I believe it was "crisis on Omaha" or something similar.
In addition, another good find would have been one of Turtledove's stories that I shamefully cannot remember the name. It starts when collaboration with the enemy in WWII becomes "hip." If anything, this is FAR darker than Crisis on Omaha, because it shows how such reporting REALLY would effect the will to fight for freedom, and it gets even worse when your mind veers off the path to imagine what would have happened behind the scenes.
A better case for Press Censorship has, in my mind, yet to be made.
Hotel Chevalier, which was the lead-in to The Darjeeling Limited. She was naked but the only thing shown was her bruised, scrawny butt.
John, I actually saw a shorter version of this trailer on TV and immediately thought of you and how you have made these points time and time again and yet nobody's listening. It's maddening!
Oh, well. It's their loss. This stinker will bomb.
I was talking with a friend last week and I asked if there has ever been a decent, intelligent Vietnam movie that was positive? Even if it was one that showed the brutality of war, like a lot of the WWII movies that were made? That showed the other side in a realistic way? That at least paid lip service to the actual history behind the war? Any of those things?
We were unable to think of a single one. Sure, there were the dopy (but sometimes fun) movies like Rambo II, etc). But nothing serious.
Anyone out there know of one?
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There's always Pauly Short's "In the Army Now"
Two losers go into the Army Reserves and … actually come out better than they went in. Hilarious, too. Unexpected as to how friendly it was to the military. About the only genuinely pro-military contemporary film around.
The writer Richard Grenier complained about "Saving Private Ryan" because he said it falsely diminished the epic battle of good and evil as represented by Hitler and the Nazis, versus the free nations by shrinking it to not a metaphor for the war, but an angst-ridden side show, a sort of "life-boats ethics" dilemma after an opening designed to terrify audiences into thinking battle must be avoided at all costs. "Black Hawk Down" ended as a nilistic nothing, no point to the mayhem. And these two are praised as pro-miitary … forget the REST of the drivel out there.
methinks it was Harvard
Uwe Boll is done. He was making all of those movies thanks to a German tax loophole that has since been closed.
The most recent version of Call of Duty has a most un-PC level in it where you play as the terrorists and shoot civilians. As a franchise, PC has not been a problem (although Hollywood has a way of messing things up).
Furthermore, if you have played any of the games, they are most respectful to our men and women in uniform. Unlike Hollywood movies, the Soldiers and Marines in these games are portrayed as men and women fighting in hellish conditions to stop the bad guys.
Finally, Activision recently announced that they have set up a charity to assist unemployed vets. (http://www.callofdutyendowment.org/)
The Call of Duty brand is a huge asset for Activision. That brand is mostly consumed by young men who appreciate the American military. I cannot see Activision letting their golden goose get cooked by some Leftist in Hollywood.
Sounds like a re-make of the Imperial occupation of Endor.
I thought she was quite good in both The Professional and Heat.
Then Michael comes home with a full-blown case of post-traumatic stress disorder because of what he had to do to survive in captivity.
Maybe one day Hollywood can make a movie where we learn about the post-traumatic stress of someone who escaped from Al Qaeda or the Taliban or Iran or West Hollywood.
John, you didn't understand Hurt Locker since you claimed it was as liberal as MSNBC. Many of my conservative friends and father disagreed and loved the movie. Just because men make the decisions that someone life isnt worth saving or that a father cannot connect with his son doesn't make it 'anti-war.' War has consequences on the people that serve in it. It take maturity, both from you and Hollywood to understand and critique this without exploiting or ignoring hardships for the sake of the political pulpit.
Gyllenhahl already destroyed one maculine american profession — the cowboy. In this movie the weed smoking brother is the better provider than the lunatic soldier. Gyllenhahl will contine to get roles as the film industry pays him back for his assault on the the traditional american male. I guess it is cool to smoke weed in movies now as well. Good example for the kids. Soldier bad — Weed Smoker good.
Thanks, then I´m not interested. Unless it is bruised from being spanked. I´d have to think about that
"Things have gotten so twisted in this area that a film like “The Hurt Locker,” where an American Colonel lets an Iraqi suspect bleeds to death…is considered pro-military"
I was so excited about "The Hurt Locker," until I read the reviews here…thankfully, you guys saved me two hours of my life.
With respect to the Colonel's actions above, I'd tell you that that wouldn't happen. In fact, an Army Captain was court-martialled for putting a dying Iraqi solider out of his misery during the Iraq war. He said he couldn't let the man suffer and die for hours.
That's why I love HD.
It forces the magic makers to work harder and drives the actors more nuts trying to keep up the facade.
Hollywood has not made an entertaining war movie since "Platoon", one of my all-time favorite films. Two other really good but lesser known war movies are "The Boys in Company C" and "Go Tell the Spartans".
I have a good friend who just escaped West Hollywood. He's relieved and is now making a good life for himself and his new family far far away from the butt crack of California…And he didn't even have to have his nose reconstructed.
Pretty much the same story arc with regards to the vets I've known over the years who've all managed to stand tall after having gone through everything from hiding from insurgents under the bodies of compatriots in the jungles of Malaya, to RRAF heli-borne actions in the Rhodesian bush, to kicking in doors in Hue and Fallujah.
Common denominator? They were all engaged one way or another against emboldened Marxists either foreign or domestic. Sometimes both.
Anyway, even that prancing f^ckstick traitor John Kerry has managed to do OK; albeit with $ack$ of help from his ketchup queen.
…Or some casting couch.
Has anyone seen the "Green Zone" trailer yet with Matt Damon? It doesn't even hide the fact that the enemy is the U.S. government SOLDIERS with the Iraqi's (the ones trying to kill Americans) simply caught in the middle.
Hey they could do a movie about the 13 or so soliders at Fort Carson who returned from war deployments and committed murders within a two year period. OR, we could do a movie about how the number of military suicides in January of 2009 were actually HIGHER than casualties in either Iraq or Afghanistan.
While I don't disagree with your assessment that military movies tend to be pacifistic, I find it incredibly offensive to see talking points denigrating or even denying the notion of PTSD. While not every soldier who sees combat comes home a pyscho, soldiers who see combat ARE affected deeply by it.
It's more like dumb Americans can't handle subtitled films. Hence, you often see American remakes of successful foreign-language features (ie La Femme Nikita remade as Point of No Return).
The old joke is what do you call a person who speaks two languages? Bilingual. What do you call a person who speaks one language? An American.
It was also done before and called "Coming Home" with Jane Fonda, Bruce Dern and John Voight. Then again "Brothers" is based on a Danish film as well. In short, most stories have been done before.
Go to my web and read about the only Vietnam war film that honors our Vietnam veterans and all veterans. tp://www.forgottenheroesthemovie.com/
"In an age when heroism and patriotism have been consumed by guilt and shame, "Forgotten Heroes" offers a welcome and inspirational antidote. A heartfelt tribute to the young men who lived, served, fought and died in the jungles of Vietnam, "Forgotten Heroes" is a throwback to the great films of the World War II era, when traits like courage, camaraderie and conviction were revered and rewarded – no matter who won. As most Vietnam films continue to focus on the ideological and moral implications of the war, "Forgotten Heroes" dares to turn its sights on the brave young men who lived it. Producer/director Jack Marino has created a tale of courage, conviction and camaraderie reminiscent of the great films of the World War II era. "
- Wade Major – Associate Editor – Entertainment Today
I never saw Amerca being nuked by German neo-fascists in a Tom Clancy novel, but that doesn't mean they didn't make it happen in the movie. I'm a huge COD fan, I've been playing MW2 nonstop for the last 3 days, I just really really hope they do it right. The guy who directed District 9 really should've been able to stay on and finish Halo.
How was the profession of cowboy destroyed by Mr. Gyllenhal? Moreover, why do conservatives hate homosexuals with the ferocity that they do? I thought you guys were the individualists who wanted the government to leave people alone?
I have been screaming this since I made FORGOTTEN HEROES a low budget independent film that honors and pays tribute to all of the Vietnam Veterans who were treated like dogs by the leftist SOBs when they came home. I made this film twenty years ago and Hollywood refuse to pick it up because I have images of Americans as heroes, I went against their agenda. I refuse to give this up and because it was picked up the film is twenty years old. I took the chance in 1988 and bucked this damn system and for that I paid a real price in time.
I am selling my DVD off my own website you people get pissed off at all these anti-American war films are posted on big Hollywood and all the previous web sites that is suppose to promote known and unknown filmmakers. I keep hearing this lame damn excuse that my film is too old? Too old for who? You buy the damn thing, put it your DVD player and watch it for the first time, its BRAND SPANKING NEW. Who cares about the damn copyright but jaded studio and dvd wholesalers.
President George W Bush saw my film back in June of 2008 and he didn't think it was old? He sent me a wonderful letter and that is on my website. Here I am an the only conservative filmmaker with a 35-mm narrative feature film that honors and pays tribute to all of our troops today, especially the Vietnam Veterans
I am a one man marketing machine and I have done over 80 radio shows out there. I have this little film with a powerful message and I can't get it on the conservative blogs. Conservatives tend to eat their own and especially if a film isn't backed by a major or some conservative star. I was ignored by the three conservative film festivals. I have never claimed that my film is the greatest film ever, its a low budget film with a lot of heart, but I will tell you all this, like a local wine it isn't half bad.
I read this article by John Nolte this morning and who knows how many times he has written about these war films that come out of Hollywood that spit on all of our troops then and now. For some reason the conservative out here in the business will fall all over themselves for a digital documentaries but for a 35mm feature film that honors our Vietnam vets, I am ignored like a drunk in a crowded elevator.
All of you out there that are FED UP with Hollywood because of films like 'Brother's'. There is a film you have been waiting for. it's called FORGOTTEN HEROES. It honors our troops and shows our boys as heroes, for some reason I am having a problem out there telling you all about the film.
Got to http://www.forgottenheroesthemovie.com/
"Dear Jack, you have helped enhance the lives of our Nation's military and veterans and I appreciate your efforts to honor these heroes. Your support of these selfless warriors reflects the best of the American Spirit and I am grateful for your compassionate work …" – President George W. Bush – White House Letter dated July 21, 2008
I hope this qualifies FORGOTTEN HEROES for a small blip on BIG HOLLYWOOD?
Why do they have to be dumb Armericans. Im sure America has never done anything good for you. The reason American arent Bilingual is because we have the choice not to be. We live in America people speak english here. So Besos mis pompis!!
Americans can't handle subtitled films, this has been shown time and time again at the box office. Oddly enough, non-English language films don't run into those of issues in the Asian and European markets, where there are MANY bi-lingual speakers.
How many classic Kurosawa films have you not seen because you hate subtitles?
I think the Turtledove piece was called NEWS FROM THE FRONT.
David, there are here alive and fighting of a sliver of acknowledgment. – http://www.forgottenheroesthemovie.com
Just saw the trailer. "The Green Zone" doesn´t look boring but it sure looks stupid. Jason Bourne goes to Iraq. It seems that Hollyweird is determined to try every approach but the truth.
yes…. FORGOTTEN HEROES http://www.forgottenheroesthemovie.com it is what you are looking for.
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I never said it couldn't happen. I am saying that I believe Activision is aware of that possibility and is smart enough to not let it happen.
Mago check out this pro Vietnam vet film they won't let you see http://www.forgottenheroesthemovie.com
Well I really hope so. I mean after Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, Doom, Dead or Alive, Alone in the Dark, House of the Dead, 3 Resident Evils, that "new" Street Fighter", Super Mario Brothers, you would think they would be able to make 1 good one. If I had to pick one and just one, it'd be Call of Duty.
I liked Max Payne.
Halo is a good example of what happened when Microsoft was unwilling to let Hollywood have too much creative control over their premiere franchise. Hollywood backed out. While I still hope to see a good Halo movie, I much prefer that Microsoft back out of the deal then let Hollywood ruin it.
I imagine Call of Duty will be much the same. As will the World of Warcraft movie. At this point, those video game franchises are way more valuable than most movie franchises. As a result, the companies that own them (Activision-Blizzard & Microsoft) have a vested interest to not let Hollywood mess them up.
Those previous franchises that you mentioned had little to lose and lots to gain from the exposure of a major motion picture.
How do we exacly know that punks join the military to begin with? Just asking.
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This movie (judging by the trailer and Nolte's blog) once again justifies my movie boycott.
Yes Hollywood is losing money, Yes they are making lower budget films in places where the taxes are less (Canada.) And yes they are using fewer big box office names (Sean Penn, Danny Glover et al.) Yes they make more money outside of America than in.
But maybe it's time they looked at the audience they no longer have and it might add up that they are losing money because they no longer make movies AMERICANS want to see!
So did I and made it into a film, which Hollywood made sure anything positive about the Nam guys would not see the light of day. http://www.forgottenheroesthemovie.com
What? I think this movie looks so good! Dont judge the movie by the trailer.. plus all actors in it are awesome. I see Oscars
Even tho the trailer looks like it spoils the movie, I still want to go see it. No?? I bet theres more to it than the 2 minute trailer
Sorry, I'm tired of being lectured to by Natalie Portman on how stupid I am.
‘Brothers’ doesn't glamorize any aspects of the psychological impact of war, and that is why it is appealing. Just because the plot is set around a controversial current event does not mean it is exploitative. And really, it is more about family, not war.
I think it is a very real portrayal of the consequences that coincide with the effects of war on family and the individual, on both emotional and physical levels.
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