Poor Polanski: Depressed, Facing Longer Sentence Today than in ‘77
by John Nolte
Nothing plays on that little violin inside my heart more than hearing some child-sodomizing fugitive has got himself a case of the incarceration blues:
Director Roman Polanski is feeling depressed two weeks after his arrest in Switzerland to face U.S. extradition for a 1977 case involving the rape of a 13-year-old girl, his lawyer was quoted as saying on Sunday.
“I found him to be tired and depressed,” Herve Temime told the Sonntag newspaper, one of two newspapers he talked to after visiting the Oscar-winning director in a Zurich prison.
“Roman Polanski, who is 76, seemed very dejected when I visited him,” Temime told another newspaper, NZZ am Sonntag.
“Polanski was in an unsettled state of mind.”
“Dejected,” “unsettled,” “depressed.” About 1/1000th of what his victim went through. Michael Cieply’s New York Times piece over the weekend probably didn’t do the fugitive director’s mood much good. Cieply makes a very convincing case that had Polanski taken his medicine in 1977, he would have received a lighter sentence than what he’s likely to face today if extradited:
Manners, mores and law enforcement have become far less forgiving of sex crimes involving minors in the 31 years since Mr. Polanski was charged with both rape and sodomy involving drugs. He fled rather than face what was to have been a 48-day sentence after he pleaded guilty to unlawful sex with a minor.
But if he is extradited from Switzerland, Mr. Polanski could face a more severe punishment than he did in the 1970s, as a vigorous victims’ rights movement, a family-values revival and revelations of child abuse by clergy members have all helped change the moral and legal framework regarding sex with the young.
Mr. Polanski’s lawyers — including Reid Weingarten, a Washington power player — are likely to argue that Mr. Polanski does not even qualify for extradition from Switzerland, because he was set to be given a jail term of less than one year when he fled to France in 1978.
But Stephen L. Cooley, the Los Angeles County district attorney, has signaled that he believes much stiffer penalties may be in order. Questioned by reporters just after Mr. Polanski’s arrest, he said the filmmaker had received a “very, very, very lenient sentence” that “would never be achievable under today’s laws.”
Talk about poetic justice.
There must also be some legal penalty for fleeing the country that will add to Polanski’s jail time; something that will give Leftist Hollywood a whole new cause to make fools of themselves over. After all, artistes should be allowed to pick up and run if they’re about to go to jail … especially child rapists, right?
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Two people who deserve to be in prison right now – Polanski and Dick Cheney.
Three years for flight from prosecution is available, plus the plea deal might be repudiated. The flight itself is a felony, making Polanski's lawyers claims that he can not be extradited for a misdemeanor look pretty weak.
Polanski's lawyers should have left this thing alone, but when that documentary came out a couple of years ago, they could not resist making their motion for dismissal, thus waking the prosecutorial bear of Los Angeles County from his slumber. Polanski has no one to blame but himself – no wonder he is depressed!
And what about Diane Feinstein?
Karma!
I would be depressed just even being his lawyer…. Ugggghhhhhh!!!!
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I'm sorry for the little turd. I'm thinking about sending him a collection of Vermont Teddy Bears that resemble a girl scout troop.
I'm sorry for the little turd. I'm thinking about sending him a collection of Vermont Teddy Bears that resemble a girl scout troop. That'll cheer up the little guy!
I agree with the choice of Polanski, but would consider Osama, Pelosi, Reid, Holder, Napolitano, and Sebelius as FAR more deserving of prison than Cheney. But then I guess it's just a question of who you choose to suck. Your preference is very clear.
He needs a nice, big cellmate.
I love the reference to a 'family values revival' in the NYT excerpt.
As though drugging and sodomizing a 13 year old kid would be more acceptable except for this 'revival.'.
The NYT columnist inadvertently hits on a major problem with today's society. I was always under the impression that raping a child was against humanity's value system, whether one was secular, unmarried or not… guess i was mistaken.
One troll who is doing a piss-poor job: ddaichiro.
Keep trying, sport.
If you honestly believe Cheney belongs in jail, please explain your position on President Obama continuing with pretty much the exact same policies.
I'm being rational, reasonable, and intellectually honest, I'm not baiting you. Cheney was VP of the US. Obama is the President. Same policies, the only difference is which party is in charge of them now.
I'm interested, what's your opinion?
I'd be depressed being any lawyer. The only type of law I could practice and sleep at night would be real estate or something benign like that. And that would be boring as hell.
That would be the ultimate irony, especially if he thought Polanski has a cute butt. Then Roman would know what it's like to be sodomized against your will.
Girl scouts? Far too old for Randy Roman. He'd never go for those old maids.
Is that article supposed to make us feel bad or something? He should be depressed. After years of thumbing his nose at the law and American society, he's in jail.
To be fair, his lawyers are paid courtroom thugs, they have to say what ever they can to make the child rapist look sympathetic. That's what they're paid for.
But if I were Mr. Polanski, starring at a long stretch in San Quentin, I'd be depressed as hell too.
But as Tony Barretta used to say, don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
Obviously being depraved, deviant and a rapist would be very depressing and tiring.
The evil deeds that are continually birthed in the darkness of his heart and his mind will corrode his soul until he repents and lets The Light in.
if this was on abc.com they would ban anyone that said anything negative about Polanski and/or child rapists.. just too teared up to think,,, poor guy,,, NOT!! off he goes to hell! and to the jerk-off who started ranting about Chaney needing locked up… what a freaking mental case..
You know, it gets tiring when the Left compares everything they see to Bush/Cheney/Halliburton. Especially when their boy has been in office going on 11 months now and continuing the exact same policies. Want to put someone in jail, Lefty troll? How about the NAMBLA-supporting Safe Schools Czar in the Obama Administration? There's a good place to start.
when his attorney states that pedophile polansky is "sore" then i will care
He needs a nice, big, HAIRY cellmate
The "Red Badge of Courage", right, ddaichiro?
I gave you a "thumb's up", and will continue to do so every time I see your name attached to a post. No matter how inane and gratuitously provocative that post may be.
Note to my conservative brothers and sisters: I figured out awhile ago, these people want the negative attention. Don't even bother to comment. Just click on the little "thumbs up" icon and move on. If we all did that, it would burn them like coals of fire on their heads.
That's the only way to destroy a troll: with fire.
He is in jail where he belongs. If this takes time, he still has to sit in there and contemplate. He is doing the leftist drill of whining and playing victimhood.
OK. Brownies, then.
People, is there seriously any way that you grow up? In Roman Polanski we have a serious, true case where a felon has run around and lived a lovely life for years after commiting a heinous crime. We are not talking about Dick Cheney or Nancy Pelosi, but a genuine felon. It is because you all cannot even for one second keep your eyes on the ball and because comments like yours are ridiculous and childish that your "cause" is considered to be silly. Your "heroes" are objects of fun in all areas but the other-worlds in which you dwell. In this piece, John Nolte has brought a serious article to your attention and done it well, as he usually does. What a shame that someone who could easily write for grownups is writing for people who no greater depth than most of you.
Nice work, John. Add this to another of your pieces that brings important stories to grownup.
At this point, any sentence would be a death sentence. And I'm fine and good with that.
Cheney-NO. Murtha-YES!
He should put us all out of our misery by doing the right thing and committing seppuku and leave his multi-millions to the girl scouts.
have him explain Michael Moore and George Soros being HALLIBURTON stock holders…now that's a brain twister.
The giddy fantasizing about prison rape is real charming, kids. Adorable, even.
But, by all means, please continue to tell me that the obsession over this case is nothing more than righteous sense of justice, as opposed to "Joy!! Something we can guiltlessly lynch to make ourselves feel morally superior!!"
At first I was mostly leaning leniency because I couldn't see how much justice was actually left to be served… now it's to the point that I'm beginning to hope he gets little more than a wrist-slap just so I can watch y'all bray at the moon over it
i thought the purpose of jail is to be depressed over sodomizing and raping a child. Maybe some of these more enlightened Hollywierd left coast souls will allow some of our felon child predators into their home with their kids since we have no place to put all of them. What you don't want to if they are not white rich and successful? You racist hypocrites!
The poor rapist.
that *loves* little elf sized child molesters from Poland…
I've debated this guy before, and while he does come off as over the edge leftist nut job, there's more to him than that. I think he's salvageable.
That's why I invited him to an honest, open, debate. Is it the policies or the person. If its the policies, then there's hope. If he just can't stand republicans, then there's no point in continuing on this topic.
this was one msm story that brought a smile to my face. depressed? good.
Oh, you SO phoned that one in. If you're gonna troll, at least get creative and look up a pedophile priest to use as bait. Google should list half a dozen in the top ten results.
Actually, I think I could have a bit of fun with tax law. Something about sticking it to the IRS just feels right.
How about your libertarian bothers and sisters?
My cursor went over your link to intense debate, I see you're retired Air Force. I'm not being provocative, just interested, where did you serve? My brother in law did two years in Arizona for the AF.
You continue to crack me up!
Thanks, now I have to spend an hour cleaning wine out of my key board.
Buy a happy meal. I hear they are giving them away in there now too.
Hey, don't forget Ted Stephens. And that guy from Louisiana who stashed all that money away in his freezer. And Rangel. You have to add Rangel too. And add Napolitano again. She should go down twice for spying on innocent Americans and calling them terrorists.
Hey, can't we just bring back the stockades? You know, just line them up in front of Capitol Hill and throw rotten fruit at them. We could broadcast it on CSPAN. It might even get ratings. Heck, with the number of people that would spend money traveling to DC just to humiliate their favorite politician, we could jumpstart the economy.
We've tangled in the past Bob, but I this isn't one of them. It's not about feeling morally superior, its about justice, and getting crap like this off the street.
Over at NRO Jonah Goldberg I think had a corner post with a link to pictures of Polanski snuggling up with some teen age girls weeks after bail jumping. He is a serial offender, and needs to be off the streets.
His depression is perfectly understandable.There are very likely so few 13 year old girls in Swiss prisons
true, but beating them legally is the ultimate in counting coup!
Oh, I'm a civil engineer (construction, residential and commercial developments, water and wastewater treatment, etc.)
I checked the federal statute and it said up to 5 years for flight. Hmmm. I hope I'm right. And I hope they nail him for it. Pompous jerk.
You're right though. What were his lawyers thinking? It was child rape. They should have just kept their mouths shut. However, I'm glad they didn't.
Oh for Christ's sake – sure he behaved badly – but how many violent rapists, stabbers, shooters, GBHers, batterers, bullies, tormenters, child-tormented-every-dayers are we all up in arms about and commenting on – those are people that we are surrounded by (and are getting out of jail in a year or two, or even less, if convicted in the UK – the official length of sentence means nothing) – and there are even people and children – in the hundreds! – you could find them if you went out a few miles maybe – who are being victimised in their own homes or having stones, abuse hurled at them everyday and are just fearful of stepping out / staying in every single day . . .
let's hear the world discussing them and their plight in this much volume – as if we cared THAT much!
I've always thought it peculiar that some people think it's great if a pedophile goes to jail and gets raped. In the prison pecking order child molesters are way at the bottom but does a guy who cold bloodedly murders a convenience store clerk for the $100 in the till really think he should be better than a diddler? Why should he get to revel in making someone else suffer?
You want to beat the IRS legally? Become President and abolish them. Put them out of business and when all of those evil jerks are packing up their desks, you can walk through their offices and point and laugh at their misery. But be sure to get it on film so the entire country can experience the moment vicariously.
Ahhh. To dream….
Oh, so you work for the DNC.
Interesting.
Ok Todd, that's an 11 on the "Wrong" meter.
ddaichiro is more likely to go to jail than Dick Cheney. And Obama is likely to be impeached if he continues to be as lunatic as he has been so far.
I think it is safe to assume that anyone imprisoned is going to be 'depressed'.
I feel no sympathy for Polanski's mental state.
One thing I have heard conflicting reports on is the plea deal. It is my impression that he fled before the formal sentencing, so a judge has the right to not accept a plea deal up to that point.
Other reports seem to point to the original judge signing off on the plea deal originally. If he (the judge) actually signed something agreeing to the plea deal, I think we are stuck with those results. No matter how crappy they are.
I think Polanski should rot in prison for as long as we can legally place him there. If he gets to be re-sentenced, I hope we use today's standards for that if it is at all legally possible.
Add to that the maximum sentence for unlawful flight, and I think we can safely assume that he'll be incarcerated for the remainder of his life.
Unfortunately however long he is imprisoned he'll be in protective custody most likely. Too bad there is no way we can actually make HIM pay for his own incarceration.
He ordered the leaking of secret CIA memos and Libby had to take the fall for him, he gave the order for illegal interogations, he illegally ordered the NSA to wiretap American citizens including people in the White House and the State Department, Halliburton bribed Nigerian officials in violation of the U.S. Corrupt Foreign Practices Act while Cheney was their CEO, he had a large role in the Abu Ghraib crimes, he presided over an illegal assassination death squad, he violated law by hiding CIA intellegence from congress on numerous occasions, and what about the energy task force secrets which may reveal the real reasons why we invaded Iraq?
Because everyone, no matter who they are, can, in the deepest recesses of their minds conceive of possible circumstances, whereupon they could, if absolutely necessary, take another life.
But only a sick few, who are beneath contempt and depraved beyond imagination, are capable of raping children.
Simple.
The Republicans who win office next year are going to have to renounce Bush. Depending on how many people are unemployed, it could be plenty. But I really think America is going to try hard to avoid falling back into that swamp again.
MovieBob, idiot leftist troll. What a drooling putrid gutless little guy you are. You have the chance to condemn Polanski but the best your said little idiot brain can muster is for you to complain about those that are happy to see justice finally served to Polanski. God MovieBob, you cannot possibly get more pathetic.
MovieBob, idiot leftist troll. What a drooling putrid gutless little guy you are. You have the chance to condemn Polanski but the best your sad little idiot brain can muster is for you to complain about those that are happy to see justice finally served to Polanski. God MovieBob, you cannot possibly get more pathetic.
I don't like the red icon, if you can remove it, I would be grateful. I'm just trying to participate, that's all.
Since the left can't see the problem with Polanski, and you said precious little against Polanski yourself, I would venture to say that you are missing the problem here.
If I go to jail, I expect to be happy, uplifted, well fed, respected by inmates and jailers alike and I expect to have access to the finest entertainment that money can buy. Signed, typical liberal moron.
"…Mr. Polanski could face a more severe punishment than he did in the 1970s (because of) a family-values revival…
Just amazing how the NY Times flatly refuses to defend a moral code. The Times won't have anything to do with it. Instead of saying Polanski is going to jail because sodomizing a 13 year old is WRONG, they instead say he's going to jail because of this pesky, ridiculous 'family values' stupidity that a bunch of rednecks have cooked up. But the Times won't even type the faintest words on newsprint to even hint that such a thing as a moral code exists, let alone print words defending it. Obviously, a moral code isn't fit to print.
But that doesn't mean that a common murderer should be allowed to feel elevated to a higher station by getting a pedophile for a cellmate. Why should anybody be allowed to be raped in prison? Why should anybody in prison be allowed to get to use someone else as their plaything?I would put pedophiles above cold blooded premeditated murderers. Not much above though.
"Dejected,” “unsettled,” “depressed.” About 1/1000th of what his victim went through" states his lawyer.
So now this pediphile has a mind reader for a lawyer. Would this lawyer feel the same if the victim was his daughter? It's common knowledge fellow inmates don't take kindly to child molestors. Heres hoping his new wife Bubba and pals will treat him real nice.
He did not. Where are you getting your loose facts? The person that released the name of Plame was Armitage. He admitted it. I know you loonies on the left are hearing black helicopters flying around and hope and hope that this false story you've heard will someday, come true.
He's a lefty loony who has a tin foil hat and lives near water.
It was funny though.
If his name was Father Polanski they would want his head on a platter. But, being a ARTIST exempts them for having to face the music.
How 'bout some RICO prosecutions of the Democratic Party? They are what the Mafia would be like if it was really, really evil and dishonest.
Isn't that the idea of Jail? What is he supposed be doing freakin' back-flips out of happiness?
I've wanted to beat his ass ever since he cut Jake Gittes' nose.
I'll answer the way that Obama would – without the teleprompter. Uh, oh, um, ah…and repeat
He's depressed now, wait till he meets Leroy and Rufus.
I'll give him an A for trying to so hard to sell the left wing lies. Wait, that's redundant. When does a lefty tell the truth? Never. A 'C' for you sir!
Okay, let's begin.
Valarie Plame was not a covert agent for the CIA, and hadn't been since she was outed by Robert Hanson in the biggest espionage attack against the US. There fore the law that prohibits knowingly outing covert agents doesn't not apply.
Your reference to illegal interrogations was the extraordinary rendition implemented during the Clinton administration. Yes it continued under the Bush administration, and I'm pretty sure it's still going on today under the Obama administration, and no, I have no evidence to back that claim up.
The alleged NSA wire taps is in no way the classical definition of wire taps, it was computerized data mining of calls going through the US – not necessarily sourced or destined for US phones. And was – according to Bush admin and I assume the Obama admin – terrorist suspects. It's debatable whether the program is legal or illegal, but it does continue, and the US government has been doing it since Woodrow Wilson secretly ordered every wire between America and Europe, intercepted and analyzed. This is nothing new, the feds have been doing it for almost 100 years.
Cheney no longer worked for Halliburton, all his stock was in a blind trust during his tenure, he had no control over the corp., this is a none issue.
Abu Ghraib was a hand full of American trolls who happened to be in uniform, on third shift in a prison in Iraq. The soldiers were twisted, turned in by fellow soldiers, charged, prosecuted, and sentenced. Why any one would think any American president or VP would be involved in beating up riffraff in a back water prison, half way around the world is just too crazy to deal with. Not wasting time. This is pure liberal drivel designed for one thing only, to support the contention that Bush was a moron, so Cheney had to be behind the secret stuff. Not buying it.
Can you provide specific evidence of illegal assassinations and death squads, because I certainly haven't seen any, I like to think I'm pretty well informed.
Can you specify exactly what law was violated, and when specifically he ordered CIA information with held. Assertions and assumptions from liberal leaning MSM outlets will not be considered valid evidence.
And the secret energy task force is nothing more than the theater of politics. I've listened to dems scream the GOP was keeping visitor logs secret, and the GO scream about dems keeping visitor logs secret for the last 30 years. Obama recently agreed to release visitor logs for day to day tourists, but keep the important ones secret, and the MSM greeted this news with hallelujahs. Not worth debating.
And I think its pretty easy to see why the US invaded Iraq, because invading and running Afghanistan was a guaranteed lose.
Please note, when I cracked the joke about the DNC joke, I was referring to the waste water part of your post.
I could just as easily state that ddaichiro deserves to put in jail. Ddaichiro's illegal abuse of the English language, ddaichiro's illegal bribing of store clerks, ddaichiro's illegal car driving, ddaichiro's illegal substitution of hyperbole for facts. See how easy it is, now off to jail you go, you illegal poster.
I could just as easily state that ddaichiro deserves to be put in jail. Ddaichiro's illegal abuse of the English language, ddaichiro's illegal bribing of store clerks, ddaichiro's illegal car driving, ddaichiro's illegal substitution of hyperbole for facts. See how easy it is, now off to jail you go, you illegal poster.
Me too Ed and I agree. dd is ocassionaly cogent and intelligent.
So I will just assume that you must also think the priests who sodomized children and have been protected by the Church for years should be just excused as well. What justice would it serve to punish them now, right?
So I will just assume that you must also think the priests who sodomized children and have been protected by the Church for years should be excused as well. What justice would it serve to punish them now, right?
When I see his postings I know it's going to be entertaining. How can someone be so misinformed and so easily led? But you have a lot on the left that take everything they're told without question.That's why one lefty troll sounds exactly like the next.
This should give you pause. In an odd twist of fate, if he is sent to San Quentin, he would be in the same prison as Charles Manson…that is actually very sad.
Oh now Todd, don't be mean. You know, this is a topic where we can all gather round the campfire and sing kumbaya while roasting Polanski's jewels on a stick.
Do ya feel the love?
Hey, can't we all just agree to hate Polanski? I mean it's much more fun when we're slinging poo at him and not each other.
Just sayin'
You're right. The sound of a pedophiles junk popping on a stick over an open fire can pick me up when I'm feeling blue. ddaichiro who? Now I feel better. Thanks!
You're right. If ddaichiro would stop sounding like a kook, I'll help him out.
Bring him to Georgia, folks in our jails know just how to handle a child rapist.
Geez, if they had to invesigate all the laws being broken by Democrats this year, the prosecutor wouldn't get any sleep. Hell, the ones in NJ could take a lifetime.
Geez, if they had to invesigate all the laws being broken by Democrats this year, the prosecutor wouldn't get any sleep. Hell, the ones in NJ could take a lifetime. Kinda makes Larry Craig and the other one seem small.
Now you're being mean. What about all the contributions he's made to the arts?
How come your funny, but lude girl scout comment got left but my comment about singing kumbaya and roasting Polanski's jewels got killed? I don't get this site.
Tell me when Dick Cheney has raped an underage girl. I'm waiting…
I don't know. I see some long posts on here and if I get uppity and write a long one, it tells me to chop it in half. I don't get it either.
I believe the term is "boo freakin' hoo".
i get a kick out od dd. I left out a "who" in my praise of him. Trying to do a paper and debate this in a multi-task way. brain is bleeding!
i get a kick out of dd. I left out a "who" in my praise of him. Trying to do a paper and debate this in a multi-task way. brain is bleeding!
I agree with you but when black helicopter time comes out of the left, it gets to me.
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