Poor Polanski: Depressed, Facing Longer Sentence Today than in ‘77
by John Nolte
Nothing plays on that little violin inside my heart more than hearing some child-sodomizing fugitive has got himself a case of the incarceration blues:
Director Roman Polanski is feeling depressed two weeks after his arrest in Switzerland to face U.S. extradition for a 1977 case involving the rape of a 13-year-old girl, his lawyer was quoted as saying on Sunday.
“I found him to be tired and depressed,” Herve Temime told the Sonntag newspaper, one of two newspapers he talked to after visiting the Oscar-winning director in a Zurich prison.
“Roman Polanski, who is 76, seemed very dejected when I visited him,” Temime told another newspaper, NZZ am Sonntag.
“Polanski was in an unsettled state of mind.”
“Dejected,” “unsettled,” “depressed.” About 1/1000th of what his victim went through. Michael Cieply’s New York Times piece over the weekend probably didn’t do the fugitive director’s mood much good. Cieply makes a very convincing case that had Polanski taken his medicine in 1977, he would have received a lighter sentence than what he’s likely to face today if extradited:
Manners, mores and law enforcement have become far less forgiving of sex crimes involving minors in the 31 years since Mr. Polanski was charged with both rape and sodomy involving drugs. He fled rather than face what was to have been a 48-day sentence after he pleaded guilty to unlawful sex with a minor.
But if he is extradited from Switzerland, Mr. Polanski could face a more severe punishment than he did in the 1970s, as a vigorous victims’ rights movement, a family-values revival and revelations of child abuse by clergy members have all helped change the moral and legal framework regarding sex with the young.
Mr. Polanski’s lawyers — including Reid Weingarten, a Washington power player — are likely to argue that Mr. Polanski does not even qualify for extradition from Switzerland, because he was set to be given a jail term of less than one year when he fled to France in 1978.
But Stephen L. Cooley, the Los Angeles County district attorney, has signaled that he believes much stiffer penalties may be in order. Questioned by reporters just after Mr. Polanski’s arrest, he said the filmmaker had received a “very, very, very lenient sentence” that “would never be achievable under today’s laws.”
Talk about poetic justice.
There must also be some legal penalty for fleeing the country that will add to Polanski’s jail time; something that will give Leftist Hollywood a whole new cause to make fools of themselves over. After all, artistes should be allowed to pick up and run if they’re about to go to jail … especially child rapists, right?
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Two people who deserve to be in prison right now – Polanski and Dick Cheney.
Three years for flight from prosecution is available, plus the plea deal might be repudiated. The flight itself is a felony, making Polanski's lawyers claims that he can not be extradited for a misdemeanor look pretty weak.
Polanski's lawyers should have left this thing alone, but when that documentary came out a couple of years ago, they could not resist making their motion for dismissal, thus waking the prosecutorial bear of Los Angeles County from his slumber. Polanski has no one to blame but himself – no wonder he is depressed!
And what about Diane Feinstein?
Karma!
I would be depressed just even being his lawyer…. Ugggghhhhhh!!!!
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I'm sorry for the little turd. I'm thinking about sending him a collection of Vermont Teddy Bears that resemble a girl scout troop.
I'm sorry for the little turd. I'm thinking about sending him a collection of Vermont Teddy Bears that resemble a girl scout troop. That'll cheer up the little guy!
I agree with the choice of Polanski, but would consider Osama, Pelosi, Reid, Holder, Napolitano, and Sebelius as FAR more deserving of prison than Cheney. But then I guess it's just a question of who you choose to suck. Your preference is very clear.
He needs a nice, big cellmate.
I love the reference to a 'family values revival' in the NYT excerpt.
As though drugging and sodomizing a 13 year old kid would be more acceptable except for this 'revival.'.
The NYT columnist inadvertently hits on a major problem with today's society. I was always under the impression that raping a child was against humanity's value system, whether one was secular, unmarried or not… guess i was mistaken.
One troll who is doing a piss-poor job: ddaichiro.
Keep trying, sport.
If you honestly believe Cheney belongs in jail, please explain your position on President Obama continuing with pretty much the exact same policies.
I'm being rational, reasonable, and intellectually honest, I'm not baiting you. Cheney was VP of the US. Obama is the President. Same policies, the only difference is which party is in charge of them now.
I'm interested, what's your opinion?
I'd be depressed being any lawyer. The only type of law I could practice and sleep at night would be real estate or something benign like that. And that would be boring as hell.
That would be the ultimate irony, especially if he thought Polanski has a cute butt. Then Roman would know what it's like to be sodomized against your will.
Girl scouts? Far too old for Randy Roman. He'd never go for those old maids.
Is that article supposed to make us feel bad or something? He should be depressed. After years of thumbing his nose at the law and American society, he's in jail.
To be fair, his lawyers are paid courtroom thugs, they have to say what ever they can to make the child rapist look sympathetic. That's what they're paid for.
But if I were Mr. Polanski, starring at a long stretch in San Quentin, I'd be depressed as hell too.
But as Tony Barretta used to say, don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
Obviously being depraved, deviant and a rapist would be very depressing and tiring.
The evil deeds that are continually birthed in the darkness of his heart and his mind will corrode his soul until he repents and lets The Light in.
if this was on abc.com they would ban anyone that said anything negative about Polanski and/or child rapists.. just too teared up to think,,, poor guy,,, NOT!! off he goes to hell! and to the jerk-off who started ranting about Chaney needing locked up… what a freaking mental case..
You know, it gets tiring when the Left compares everything they see to Bush/Cheney/Halliburton. Especially when their boy has been in office going on 11 months now and continuing the exact same policies. Want to put someone in jail, Lefty troll? How about the NAMBLA-supporting Safe Schools Czar in the Obama Administration? There's a good place to start.
when his attorney states that pedophile polansky is "sore" then i will care
He needs a nice, big, HAIRY cellmate
The "Red Badge of Courage", right, ddaichiro?
I gave you a "thumb's up", and will continue to do so every time I see your name attached to a post. No matter how inane and gratuitously provocative that post may be.
Note to my conservative brothers and sisters: I figured out awhile ago, these people want the negative attention. Don't even bother to comment. Just click on the little "thumbs up" icon and move on. If we all did that, it would burn them like coals of fire on their heads.
That's the only way to destroy a troll: with fire.
He is in jail where he belongs. If this takes time, he still has to sit in there and contemplate. He is doing the leftist drill of whining and playing victimhood.
OK. Brownies, then.
People, is there seriously any way that you grow up? In Roman Polanski we have a serious, true case where a felon has run around and lived a lovely life for years after commiting a heinous crime. We are not talking about Dick Cheney or Nancy Pelosi, but a genuine felon. It is because you all cannot even for one second keep your eyes on the ball and because comments like yours are ridiculous and childish that your "cause" is considered to be silly. Your "heroes" are objects of fun in all areas but the other-worlds in which you dwell. In this piece, John Nolte has brought a serious article to your attention and done it well, as he usually does. What a shame that someone who could easily write for grownups is writing for people who no greater depth than most of you.
Nice work, John. Add this to another of your pieces that brings important stories to grownup.
At this point, any sentence would be a death sentence. And I'm fine and good with that.
Cheney-NO. Murtha-YES!
He should put us all out of our misery by doing the right thing and committing seppuku and leave his multi-millions to the girl scouts.
have him explain Michael Moore and George Soros being HALLIBURTON stock holders…now that's a brain twister.
The giddy fantasizing about prison rape is real charming, kids. Adorable, even.
But, by all means, please continue to tell me that the obsession over this case is nothing more than righteous sense of justice, as opposed to "Joy!! Something we can guiltlessly lynch to make ourselves feel morally superior!!"
At first I was mostly leaning leniency because I couldn't see how much justice was actually left to be served… now it's to the point that I'm beginning to hope he gets little more than a wrist-slap just so I can watch y'all bray at the moon over it
i thought the purpose of jail is to be depressed over sodomizing and raping a child. Maybe some of these more enlightened Hollywierd left coast souls will allow some of our felon child predators into their home with their kids since we have no place to put all of them. What you don't want to if they are not white rich and successful? You racist hypocrites!
The poor rapist.
that *loves* little elf sized child molesters from Poland…
I've debated this guy before, and while he does come off as over the edge leftist nut job, there's more to him than that. I think he's salvageable.
That's why I invited him to an honest, open, debate. Is it the policies or the person. If its the policies, then there's hope. If he just can't stand republicans, then there's no point in continuing on this topic.
this was one msm story that brought a smile to my face. depressed? good.
Oh, you SO phoned that one in. If you're gonna troll, at least get creative and look up a pedophile priest to use as bait. Google should list half a dozen in the top ten results.
Actually, I think I could have a bit of fun with tax law. Something about sticking it to the IRS just feels right.
How about your libertarian bothers and sisters?
My cursor went over your link to intense debate, I see you're retired Air Force. I'm not being provocative, just interested, where did you serve? My brother in law did two years in Arizona for the AF.
You continue to crack me up!
Thanks, now I have to spend an hour cleaning wine out of my key board.
Buy a happy meal. I hear they are giving them away in there now too.
Hey, don't forget Ted Stephens. And that guy from Louisiana who stashed all that money away in his freezer. And Rangel. You have to add Rangel too. And add Napolitano again. She should go down twice for spying on innocent Americans and calling them terrorists.
Hey, can't we just bring back the stockades? You know, just line them up in front of Capitol Hill and throw rotten fruit at them. We could broadcast it on CSPAN. It might even get ratings. Heck, with the number of people that would spend money traveling to DC just to humiliate their favorite politician, we could jumpstart the economy.
We've tangled in the past Bob, but I this isn't one of them. It's not about feeling morally superior, its about justice, and getting crap like this off the street.
Over at NRO Jonah Goldberg I think had a corner post with a link to pictures of Polanski snuggling up with some teen age girls weeks after bail jumping. He is a serial offender, and needs to be off the streets.
His depression is perfectly understandable.There are very likely so few 13 year old girls in Swiss prisons
true, but beating them legally is the ultimate in counting coup!
Oh, I'm a civil engineer (construction, residential and commercial developments, water and wastewater treatment, etc.)
I checked the federal statute and it said up to 5 years for flight. Hmmm. I hope I'm right. And I hope they nail him for it. Pompous jerk.
You're right though. What were his lawyers thinking? It was child rape. They should have just kept their mouths shut. However, I'm glad they didn't.
Oh for Christ's sake – sure he behaved badly – but how many violent rapists, stabbers, shooters, GBHers, batterers, bullies, tormenters, child-tormented-every-dayers are we all up in arms about and commenting on – those are people that we are surrounded by (and are getting out of jail in a year or two, or even less, if convicted in the UK – the official length of sentence means nothing) – and there are even people and children – in the hundreds! – you could find them if you went out a few miles maybe – who are being victimised in their own homes or having stones, abuse hurled at them everyday and are just fearful of stepping out / staying in every single day . . .
let's hear the world discussing them and their plight in this much volume – as if we cared THAT much!
I've always thought it peculiar that some people think it's great if a pedophile goes to jail and gets raped. In the prison pecking order child molesters are way at the bottom but does a guy who cold bloodedly murders a convenience store clerk for the $100 in the till really think he should be better than a diddler? Why should he get to revel in making someone else suffer?
You want to beat the IRS legally? Become President and abolish them. Put them out of business and when all of those evil jerks are packing up their desks, you can walk through their offices and point and laugh at their misery. But be sure to get it on film so the entire country can experience the moment vicariously.
Ahhh. To dream….
Oh, so you work for the DNC.
Interesting.
Ok Todd, that's an 11 on the "Wrong" meter.
ddaichiro is more likely to go to jail than Dick Cheney. And Obama is likely to be impeached if he continues to be as lunatic as he has been so far.
I think it is safe to assume that anyone imprisoned is going to be 'depressed'.
I feel no sympathy for Polanski's mental state.
One thing I have heard conflicting reports on is the plea deal. It is my impression that he fled before the formal sentencing, so a judge has the right to not accept a plea deal up to that point.
Other reports seem to point to the original judge signing off on the plea deal originally. If he (the judge) actually signed something agreeing to the plea deal, I think we are stuck with those results. No matter how crappy they are.
I think Polanski should rot in prison for as long as we can legally place him there. If he gets to be re-sentenced, I hope we use today's standards for that if it is at all legally possible.
Add to that the maximum sentence for unlawful flight, and I think we can safely assume that he'll be incarcerated for the remainder of his life.
Unfortunately however long he is imprisoned he'll be in protective custody most likely. Too bad there is no way we can actually make HIM pay for his own incarceration.
He ordered the leaking of secret CIA memos and Libby had to take the fall for him, he gave the order for illegal interogations, he illegally ordered the NSA to wiretap American citizens including people in the White House and the State Department, Halliburton bribed Nigerian officials in violation of the U.S. Corrupt Foreign Practices Act while Cheney was their CEO, he had a large role in the Abu Ghraib crimes, he presided over an illegal assassination death squad, he violated law by hiding CIA intellegence from congress on numerous occasions, and what about the energy task force secrets which may reveal the real reasons why we invaded Iraq?
Because everyone, no matter who they are, can, in the deepest recesses of their minds conceive of possible circumstances, whereupon they could, if absolutely necessary, take another life.
But only a sick few, who are beneath contempt and depraved beyond imagination, are capable of raping children.
Simple.
The Republicans who win office next year are going to have to renounce Bush. Depending on how many people are unemployed, it could be plenty. But I really think America is going to try hard to avoid falling back into that swamp again.
MovieBob, idiot leftist troll. What a drooling putrid gutless little guy you are. You have the chance to condemn Polanski but the best your said little idiot brain can muster is for you to complain about those that are happy to see justice finally served to Polanski. God MovieBob, you cannot possibly get more pathetic.
MovieBob, idiot leftist troll. What a drooling putrid gutless little guy you are. You have the chance to condemn Polanski but the best your sad little idiot brain can muster is for you to complain about those that are happy to see justice finally served to Polanski. God MovieBob, you cannot possibly get more pathetic.
I don't like the red icon, if you can remove it, I would be grateful. I'm just trying to participate, that's all.
Since the left can't see the problem with Polanski, and you said precious little against Polanski yourself, I would venture to say that you are missing the problem here.
If I go to jail, I expect to be happy, uplifted, well fed, respected by inmates and jailers alike and I expect to have access to the finest entertainment that money can buy. Signed, typical liberal moron.
"…Mr. Polanski could face a more severe punishment than he did in the 1970s (because of) a family-values revival…
Just amazing how the NY Times flatly refuses to defend a moral code. The Times won't have anything to do with it. Instead of saying Polanski is going to jail because sodomizing a 13 year old is WRONG, they instead say he's going to jail because of this pesky, ridiculous 'family values' stupidity that a bunch of rednecks have cooked up. But the Times won't even type the faintest words on newsprint to even hint that such a thing as a moral code exists, let alone print words defending it. Obviously, a moral code isn't fit to print.
But that doesn't mean that a common murderer should be allowed to feel elevated to a higher station by getting a pedophile for a cellmate. Why should anybody be allowed to be raped in prison? Why should anybody in prison be allowed to get to use someone else as their plaything?I would put pedophiles above cold blooded premeditated murderers. Not much above though.
"Dejected,” “unsettled,” “depressed.” About 1/1000th of what his victim went through" states his lawyer.
So now this pediphile has a mind reader for a lawyer. Would this lawyer feel the same if the victim was his daughter? It's common knowledge fellow inmates don't take kindly to child molestors. Heres hoping his new wife Bubba and pals will treat him real nice.
He did not. Where are you getting your loose facts? The person that released the name of Plame was Armitage. He admitted it. I know you loonies on the left are hearing black helicopters flying around and hope and hope that this false story you've heard will someday, come true.
He's a lefty loony who has a tin foil hat and lives near water.
It was funny though.
If his name was Father Polanski they would want his head on a platter. But, being a ARTIST exempts them for having to face the music.
How 'bout some RICO prosecutions of the Democratic Party? They are what the Mafia would be like if it was really, really evil and dishonest.
Isn't that the idea of Jail? What is he supposed be doing freakin' back-flips out of happiness?
I've wanted to beat his ass ever since he cut Jake Gittes' nose.
I'll answer the way that Obama would – without the teleprompter. Uh, oh, um, ah…and repeat
He's depressed now, wait till he meets Leroy and Rufus.
I'll give him an A for trying to so hard to sell the left wing lies. Wait, that's redundant. When does a lefty tell the truth? Never. A 'C' for you sir!
Okay, let's begin.
Valarie Plame was not a covert agent for the CIA, and hadn't been since she was outed by Robert Hanson in the biggest espionage attack against the US. There fore the law that prohibits knowingly outing covert agents doesn't not apply.
Your reference to illegal interrogations was the extraordinary rendition implemented during the Clinton administration. Yes it continued under the Bush administration, and I'm pretty sure it's still going on today under the Obama administration, and no, I have no evidence to back that claim up.
The alleged NSA wire taps is in no way the classical definition of wire taps, it was computerized data mining of calls going through the US – not necessarily sourced or destined for US phones. And was – according to Bush admin and I assume the Obama admin – terrorist suspects. It's debatable whether the program is legal or illegal, but it does continue, and the US government has been doing it since Woodrow Wilson secretly ordered every wire between America and Europe, intercepted and analyzed. This is nothing new, the feds have been doing it for almost 100 years.
Cheney no longer worked for Halliburton, all his stock was in a blind trust during his tenure, he had no control over the corp., this is a none issue.
Abu Ghraib was a hand full of American trolls who happened to be in uniform, on third shift in a prison in Iraq. The soldiers were twisted, turned in by fellow soldiers, charged, prosecuted, and sentenced. Why any one would think any American president or VP would be involved in beating up riffraff in a back water prison, half way around the world is just too crazy to deal with. Not wasting time. This is pure liberal drivel designed for one thing only, to support the contention that Bush was a moron, so Cheney had to be behind the secret stuff. Not buying it.
Can you provide specific evidence of illegal assassinations and death squads, because I certainly haven't seen any, I like to think I'm pretty well informed.
Can you specify exactly what law was violated, and when specifically he ordered CIA information with held. Assertions and assumptions from liberal leaning MSM outlets will not be considered valid evidence.
And the secret energy task force is nothing more than the theater of politics. I've listened to dems scream the GOP was keeping visitor logs secret, and the GO scream about dems keeping visitor logs secret for the last 30 years. Obama recently agreed to release visitor logs for day to day tourists, but keep the important ones secret, and the MSM greeted this news with hallelujahs. Not worth debating.
And I think its pretty easy to see why the US invaded Iraq, because invading and running Afghanistan was a guaranteed lose.
Please note, when I cracked the joke about the DNC joke, I was referring to the waste water part of your post.
I could just as easily state that ddaichiro deserves to put in jail. Ddaichiro's illegal abuse of the English language, ddaichiro's illegal bribing of store clerks, ddaichiro's illegal car driving, ddaichiro's illegal substitution of hyperbole for facts. See how easy it is, now off to jail you go, you illegal poster.
I could just as easily state that ddaichiro deserves to be put in jail. Ddaichiro's illegal abuse of the English language, ddaichiro's illegal bribing of store clerks, ddaichiro's illegal car driving, ddaichiro's illegal substitution of hyperbole for facts. See how easy it is, now off to jail you go, you illegal poster.
Me too Ed and I agree. dd is ocassionaly cogent and intelligent.
So I will just assume that you must also think the priests who sodomized children and have been protected by the Church for years should be just excused as well. What justice would it serve to punish them now, right?
So I will just assume that you must also think the priests who sodomized children and have been protected by the Church for years should be excused as well. What justice would it serve to punish them now, right?
When I see his postings I know it's going to be entertaining. How can someone be so misinformed and so easily led? But you have a lot on the left that take everything they're told without question.That's why one lefty troll sounds exactly like the next.
This should give you pause. In an odd twist of fate, if he is sent to San Quentin, he would be in the same prison as Charles Manson…that is actually very sad.
Oh now Todd, don't be mean. You know, this is a topic where we can all gather round the campfire and sing kumbaya while roasting Polanski's jewels on a stick.
Do ya feel the love?
Hey, can't we all just agree to hate Polanski? I mean it's much more fun when we're slinging poo at him and not each other.
Just sayin'
You're right. The sound of a pedophiles junk popping on a stick over an open fire can pick me up when I'm feeling blue. ddaichiro who? Now I feel better. Thanks!
You're right. If ddaichiro would stop sounding like a kook, I'll help him out.
Bring him to Georgia, folks in our jails know just how to handle a child rapist.
Geez, if they had to invesigate all the laws being broken by Democrats this year, the prosecutor wouldn't get any sleep. Hell, the ones in NJ could take a lifetime.
Geez, if they had to invesigate all the laws being broken by Democrats this year, the prosecutor wouldn't get any sleep. Hell, the ones in NJ could take a lifetime. Kinda makes Larry Craig and the other one seem small.
Now you're being mean. What about all the contributions he's made to the arts?
How come your funny, but lude girl scout comment got left but my comment about singing kumbaya and roasting Polanski's jewels got killed? I don't get this site.
Tell me when Dick Cheney has raped an underage girl. I'm waiting…
I don't know. I see some long posts on here and if I get uppity and write a long one, it tells me to chop it in half. I don't get it either.
I believe the term is "boo freakin' hoo".
i get a kick out od dd. I left out a "who" in my praise of him. Trying to do a paper and debate this in a multi-task way. brain is bleeding!
i get a kick out of dd. I left out a "who" in my praise of him. Trying to do a paper and debate this in a multi-task way. brain is bleeding!
I agree with you but when black helicopter time comes out of the left, it gets to me.
Sometimes I wonder if he actually believes half of what he's saying. But then again, I think the left hates Cheney and Bush so much personally, that I can believe it.
The point is this: the reason killers are above child predators in the prison scale as well as the societal scale is because most human beings can more readily relate to a killer than they can to a child rapist. A person can find a way to sympathize, forgive, rehabilitate a killer. A person can even possibly put themselves in the shoes of a killer.
None of that can be done with a child rapist. They are so far outside the realm of humanity, that they violate even the bounds of criminality. They are subcriminal.
Or it's ironic justice.
Yeah, but everything out of their mouths just makes everyone angrier and angrier. These guys have to be the dumbest attorneys on the planet. And why are they appealing this? Polanski is just going to spend more time in jail. He'll spend 4 months in Switzerland and then he will get shipped back here and do whatever time he gets sentenced to in California. If he had just come back, he would probably have been given the remainder of his old deal. But his lawyers are ticking off everyone and now Polanski will probably end up serving some real time in the US. (which, personally, sends a thrill up my leg).
“Polanski was in an unsettled state of mind.”
This was my favorite description of the wretch Polanski, forced to confront what he did, or at least the possible 'just deserts' he might get for what he did. If he actually comes back to the States, I don't expect him to serve much time. Polanski, just get it over with. You're to old to drag this thing out, wasting the last few hours, days, weeks and months of your life worrying about what they're going to do to you.
Jewels!
Poor Roman.
Boo freakin' hoo.
ya it's a derangment syndrome. They can't explain it, the MSNBC's of the world have done a good job (with the help of late night shows) of demonizing them both. I wasn't totally on the same page with W. even as a Texan but generally they managed a horrific crisis well and manageed to keep the economy out of the tank until the Freddie/Fanny social engineering experiments (a Dem plot!) blew up. Everyday that goes by they are vinicated more and more and more. The more Obambi CAN'T reverse their policies the weaker he looks in the eyes of the radical left. If he suceeds the country is damaged.
ya it's a derangment syndrome. They can't explain it, the MSNBC's of the world have done a good job (with the help of late night shows) of demonizing them both. I wasn't totally on the same page with W. even as a Texan but generally they managed a horrific crisis well and manageed to keep the economy out of the tank until the Freddie/Fanny social engineering experiments (a Dem plot!) blew up. Everyday that goes by they are vinicated more and more and more. The more Obambi CAN'T reverse their policies of Bush the weaker he looks in the eyes of the radical left. If he suceeds the country is damaged.
What will be funny is watching Republicans being able to repudiate Bush and then pointing out that Obambi has done exactly the same things. Republican gains would be like fish in a barrel!
Think about it this way: The black helicopters never survive long. They always seem to run into those cotton candy clouds.
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Not saying he's insane, but the premise is that if you're insane, do you know you are? So if you take what's spoonfed to you, do you not know it sounds insane even if you can be easily disproven? I don't care to tell people they're wrong. It's not what I like to do. I'm not right all the time, but I'd rather someone take some time and research instead of repeating the same old lines that have had holes blown in them. Frustrating.
See. It's all about the love.
Now let's go hunt us some perverts! And yes, we can even invite ddiachiro. Because let's face it, with enemies like Polanski and his depraved boy-raping buddy, Mitterand, EVERYONE is an ally.
What do you say we burn down NAMBLA? Philosophically speaking…
We'll never know what the original judge, who decided to throw out the plea bargain agreement (time served? 40 days????) – would have given him.
You have to have a little sympathy for him being Sharon Tate's husband but still, what he did to the 13 year old scarred her for life.
Then too I think any parents who would drop off a 13 year old to be photographed are pretty batty. Reminds me of seeing pictures of the 6 year old girl in CO who was murdered (Jonbenet) all "tarted up" for a "beauty pageant". Kinda creepy.
You have as much a warped sense of humor as me
So are you saying Dick Cheney should be working in a prison, perhaps torturing Roman Polanski.
Gosh, your right. What was I thinking. They're Hollywood types. They're better than us. They shouldn't have to live by the same laws as us. Hey Todd, do you think we should just round up some of our children and ship them off to LA for the stars to play with? Cause they need to be entertained too? I mean they do so much for us, right?
What do you think?
I think the giddiness is due to seeing justice finally served – like OJ finally getting some prison – after he/Polanski escaped it for so long.
News flash: Nobody cares.
You know, they have meds now for that BDS….
"We are not talking about Dick Cheney or Nancy Pelosi, but a genuine felon"
I seriously don't think he would end up at our San Quinton or Pelican Bay (that facility is for the felons too tough for San Quinton) – maybe a year? But that is just my speculation, based on nothing other than the SWAG methodology…
Named Bubba?
Anyone here see a resemblance between Polanski and Don Henley? Interestingly enough, Henley was once charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor when paramedics were called to his home to save a naked 16-year-old girl overdosing on cocaine and Quaaludes.
Perhaps fewer movies and more news, Bob? Nearly every day comes another child kidnapping, rape, sodomization, enslavement, murder. You know…it get's to ya after awhile, Bob. Kinda peels away whatever "warm and fuzzy feewings of understanding" I have towards the utter refuse that perpetrates these hideous crimes.
"Righteous sense of justice" Yeah–whatever you say, Bob.
Has he been raped in prison yet???
Politics, history, economics and they way they fit together is a total mystery to some people. They watch MSNBC and are comforted by group think. It's easier than actually thinking about it.
What a freakin' shame…not. He knows he's toast.
Well, what purpose is served for a jail setenence over an act which occurred 30 years ago? Even the victim doesn't want to see him punished any more than he has. I am not condoning what he did but just questioning the purpose of extradition and imprisonment. It's interesting that Bush walks free after lying to start a war which has killed over a million people and yet we are so concerned over an ageing film director. Hello?
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Poor Polanski the punk rapist as prisoner? Boo freakin' hoo !
Kudos to Stephen L. Cooley, the Los Angeles County district attorney for following up and pursuing the case. Stay on it Mr. Cooley, do not back down. Also kudos to the Swiss for arresting this pedophile rapist. Looks like karma finally caught up with Polanski. It's almost a shame Tookie is dead, he would have been a good cellmate.
Movie Bob-
What a jerk.
Plus your taste in movies usually stinks. You need to change that moniker…
Polanksi's 76. He doesn't have a "cute butt"…
I work in a V.A. hospital…unfortunately, I know these things.
Lighten up, Sheldon.
One of our resident liberal trolls, 'ddaichiro', came on here right out of the gate, and posted a silly, gratuitous remark about Dick Cheney belonging in prison. The remainder of the comments about who should or should not be in prison were in response to that. They had nothing whatsoever to do with Nolte's post.
So it's not really a case of "you all"; it's a case of a lone troll who wants to attract negative attention to himself, like some 12-year-old who isn't good at anything acting out in class.
Now, I really wish people wouldn't take that bait, but I really wish for World Peace also. "Why can't we all just get along?" Where's my Nobel?
Don't drop the soap Roman baby…i'm sure Bubba is waiting for you. Maybe him and Phil Spector can be cellmates.
May be he's depressed because he hasn't been buggered yet. " Vas is swrong vith me? Am I nots pretty enough? "
And yet they want the names of all the Cia and Fbi involved in any Iran/Afghanistan war dealings released… you prickwashing dem/Comms can't have it both ways..
OJ Simpson and Polanski may have skipped justice for a while but in the end they are where they belong – in jail
Maxine Waters (hubby's bailout $$$$ for bad loans HIS BANK made to black people, he collects twice!)
It's S.O.P. for the Dem/Comms
Chi/Comms…. Chicago Communists??
The girl wasn't a virgin.. and she enjoyed his "oral attentions".. she simply "pretended" to be unconcious while the Pedo had his way with her..
I can hear the leftists shytbag whiners now…
"It wasn't rape-rape"….
Go pull your 2 incher to "Pretty Baby" you fat pedo slob..
Don't need to be a lawyer to do that, just use the underground economy.
But you didn't hear that from me.
What kind of engineer are you? I'm electrical engineering technology, software engineer, and currently I/T network architect.
then he'll be uplifted
Didnt Jon Benets co-conspirator (her mom) die? And yet her rapist/murdrerer brother is still free..
Martin Luither Kings family said they didn't think Jamer Earl Ray killed their father/husband.. and asked him to be released.. he wasn't.. he also wasn't guilty..
Martin Luither Kings family said they didn't think James Earl Ray killed their father/husband.. and asked for him to be released.. he wasn't.. he also wasn't guilty..
The only thing that would make this story perfect is a made for TV movie that covers his life, right up to where he hung himself, followed by the final "touching" scene where little kids were roasting marshmallows off of his burning body.
Thank you for going to all that trouble, Ed. Investigations need to take place and if Tricky Dick Junior is cleared, I'll quit belittling him.
ddaichiro, I just clicked the thumbs up for you, so you went from a zero "0" to a +1. I'm not sure but I think if 55 or 60 more people do the same, you'll get to be green with envy.
Wait until he has to answer to the Lord for his transgressions.
He'll be a little more than "tired and depressed", and his "unsettled state of mind.” with be the least of his concerns.
The weeping and gnashing of teeth could ruin eternity for him. Poor lost soul.
"Dejected,” “unsettled,” “depressed.” About 1/1000th of what his victim went through" states his lawyer.
So now this pediphile has a mind reader for a lawyer. Would this fecal matter feel the same if the victim was his daughter? It's common knowledge fellow inmates don't take kindly to child molestors. Heres hoping his new wife Bubba and pals will treat him real nicely.
Please tell us all what Dick Cheney did to be put in jail? Please oh please oh please? Here's what he did, nothing. People like you keep clicking your heals in the hopes that someday it'll be true.
Wow, now we know how to win! Thanks! No one has to denounce anyone. If anyone has to denounce anyone, it'll be the country denouncing the congress and current president that is pushing us deeper in to recession and unemployment.
Obviously you've never had a 13 year old daughter who was drugged and asss raped by a Big Time Hollywood producer. Maybe someday you'll be so fortunate.
Mr. Polanski is not an american citizen so he has immunity.
Not way at the bottom, the absolute bottom. Hurting a child by rape or whatever sick means hits even common criminals "where they live". they might have a thirteen year old daughter they wouldn't want drugged and raped. Just human nature I suppose. We as society don't choose prisons pecking order, they do. If it were sociologically unbalanced the prisoners themselves would fix it. You go to live in the jungle you get strong or get dead. My future ex did a two year strech in a federal BOP "country club" outside Phoenix, she adapted and learned quick. The "ladies" don't cotton much to a "princess" in prison, even there the violence is prevelant and persistant.
Not way at the bottom, the absolute bottom. Hurting a child by rape or whatever sick means hits even common criminals "where they live". they might have a thirteen year old daughter they wouldn't want drugged and raped. Just human nature I suppose. We as society don't choose prisons pecking order, they do. If it were sociologically unbalanced the prisoners themselves would fix it. You go to live in the jungle you get strong or get dead. My future ex did a two year strech in a federal BOP "country club" outside Phoenix, she adapted and learned quick. The "ladies" don't cotton much to a "princess" in prison, even there the violence is prevelant and persistant. It cost me a ton of "commisary money" to keep her in bribe "items" mostly food stuffs and personal items the poor girls didn;t have and had no one to send them $$$$. that how thw prison world works. We couldn't change it we had to adapt to it.
No, you won't. You'll just keep repeating the lies over and over and hope no one does what Ed did so the lies will continue.
you deserve a yellow icon. I'll petition the W.H. for a special dispensation for you. You might be wrong but you're dedicated and ocassionally right on target.
and couldn't like that snappy pix of Laurance Welk?
It's sort of ironic that original sentence he was going to serve is not as long as the pre-liminary trial is going to be and then he'll have to go to jail for fleeing the coop as well as, at least, the original sentence.
This could be a life sentence for him at his age.
This rapist, in particular, is important because of the notoriety of the case.
Sure, there are other bad people out there who get away with things.
But this case was seen by the entire world and sets a terrible precedent. Prior to last year, we were basically telling the world that it was ok to come to America, rape a 13 year-old, then flee prosecution to Europe (where you could lead a lavish life and even win an Oscar!)
Maybe you are ok with that message. I am not.
First, I read this:
"Well, what purpose is served for a jail setenence over an act which occurred 30 years ago?"
Next, I read the name of the author:
"leftandproud"
At that point, everything made sense.
My overseas service was in Korea, Germany, England and Saudi Arabia. Stateside: Texas, Illinois, South Carolina, California, Washington, Mississippi, Florida, and Tennessee. I may have overlooked a couple.
I was an aviation meteorologist, retired in 1999 with the rank of Master Sergeant and worked for the Air Force as a civilian until 2006, when my wife and I moved back to Tennessee to be near our grandkids.
I'm not sure how you thought that question would be "provocative". Thanks for your interest.
Why, no, Officer Cobretti. I suppose I haven't…
Y'know, in a way that kind of appeal to base, raw emotion comes close to helping make my point: You are, of course, correctly that I would probably feel differently if it had been "my daughter." However, that is precisely WHY relatives of victims are not allowed to sit in legal judgement – at any level – of criminals; because raw, emotional reaction ISN'T what our laws and system of justice are supposed to be based on.
I'd go with karmic balance, but only if Charlie and Roman were cellmates…and someone tossed in a Buck knife…
Wrong.
The jury is drawn "from the people"; and most of the people have had some encounter with crime in one form or another.
Besides, the mutt CONFESSED.
If you want to feel compassionate all over, why don't you stand up for the child, instead of Polanski? What about HER? Where's your outrage over what she endured at his hands?
You have come here more times than not and slopped affectionate over Hollywood's latest troglodytes, but your pain for the detritus left in their wake doesn't even get the "Honorable Mention Category" from you.
WHY?
Who's gloating?? The only reason I see for gloating this, mess is the revelation that Polanski is now depressed over the situation that he's in, which is due to his own behavior. By admission he commited a heinous crime and fled the jurisdiction to avoid paying his price to society. His age, and the fiscal difficulties matter not to most people who have followed this story.
You sound like a Polanski apologist, not a conservative.
"If you want to feel compassionate all over, why don't you stand up for the child, instead of Polanski?"
Maybe I figured that since only a moron or a psychopath WOULDN'T feel compassion for a rape victim that I didn't need to "broadcast" it. I hate when people brag or want credit for something that's supposed to be an assumption out of basic decency, i.e. "I've NEVER been to jail!" "I take care of my kids!" and so on.
As for "standing up" for her, well… for me, that would entail looking to see HER wishes on the matter met and – last I checked – SHE wants him released and for there to be no further legal proceedings. Honestly, I sympathize with her desire for it to be done with, but I regard this position as way too extreme in the other direction; I think he ought to be extradited and needs to stand before a judge and recieve a sentence.
Hey Lou. I tried arguing along similar lines and got quite a bit of return fire. They don't want to hear it.
Fight the battles you can win.
The ironic thing is that the pre-liminary trial is going to take longer than his sentence had been if he had stuck around. Then he'll get his sentence on top.
Well, Obama is continuing this war (which was if you cared to remedy your cranio-rectal inversion, hinted at during the Clinton Administration as well)…you gonna press for him to give back his Peace Prize?
<pulls up a chair and starts the teakettle to wait>
*MissQuinn*
I'm not buying it. I can't relate to a killer or a child molester. The only time I could consider killing anyone is in self defence. I could forgive a child molester more easily than a cold blooded murderer. If someone molests my child I at least get them back and can help them try to get over it. If someone murders my child then it's irreversible, they're never comeing back.
I can understand and sympathize with the victim's wish that there be no new trial. She doesn't want to go through another trial, she's trying to get on with her life. Okay.
But Polanski has already confessed. The thing is, Polanski fled the country rather than spend 48 days in jail. He needs to answer for that.
Another trial – or at least a trial where the victim must appear – may not be necessary. But Polanski should be sentenced on fleeing the jurisdiction. Instead of forty-eight days, he could get five years. Polanski doesn't like that? Tough – he shouldn't have skipped.
EdSki, I'm a lawyer and sleep well at night. And I'm a gov't lawyer. I work for a local gov't trying to keep us from having to spend so damn much of $$ on stupid state and fed mandates.
At least our citizens get something from us in return for their tax dollars. We provide cops, firefighters, EMS, water, sewer, roads, lights, sidewalks and repaired potholes.
What really makes me happy is defending the City from people who sue us thinking we're a cash cow.
And yes, the local gov't folks actually do give a hoot about saving $ from taxpayers. We live here and pay taxes.
It's a good thing I'm not the judge in this case or he'd be going feet first into a slow motion wood chipper.
After the Catholic priest exonerates his soul of course.
I'm still waiting to hear from Martin Scorcese and David Lynch about exactly why they signed that petition. Crickets. I am more disappointed in what I've learned about them than in what I already knew about Polanski.
Serious answer– I don't know who this guy is, never seen a movie of his and don't want to. He plead to a lessor charge and then backed out on the deal and justice was denied. That mean the PEOPLE are not constrained to show him any mercy whatsoever.
It makes NO difference what his victim thinks or how many movies he's made or how old he is.
I would agree with any sentence MORE than what the original offense carried.
Yes, and don't forget:
Don't roll the dice if you can't pay the price,
Don't do it.
Don't run your feet down a dead-end street.
Don't do it.
Don't do me dirt or your gonna get hurt.
Don't do it
Don't run away till you hear what I say.
Keep your eye on the sparrow when the going gets narrow.
Oh ya,
And don't ply 13 year old girls with drugs and alcohol so you can sodomize them either……………….Don't do it.
Afghanistan is one of those rare countries that the winner would be the one to say 'nuke 'em 'til they glow'.
A few days in prison, the perpetrator is depressed.
A lifetime of recovery, imagine what his victims' experiences have been.
Booo Hooo. He should go to prison so he can RECEIVE what he gave the 13 year old girl. Maybe he will do us all a favor and end it all.
If someone wants to take credit for something they do, it isn't up to you to decide whether its appropriate or not. If its the truth, it should be allowed, and if its simply for being decent, well, good for them, considering how indecent society is nowadays.
Our victim in this case wants to be free of Polanski's filth, and that is her choice. But we as a society have the responsibility to insure appropriate measures are taken against those who degrade the society into the barely contained chaos its becoming. That is the duty of citizenship.
Polanski injured more than a thirteen year old girl. His behavior, during and since, has debased us all. It says, so what, I do little girls; you all want to do what I did, too.
There is the crux of this matter. Not only does he require punishment for the original crime, he has to atone for his continued desires to make all of us his accessories after the fact.
He is a pedophile, but this society is not, and it must confine his behavior against others, or touch what makes a Polanski so filthy; a resolute desire to not only condone his behavior, but declare it a normal part of society, a coveted, desirous state of being…
I'm conservative and anyone who cares about limited government should not be happy with this episode.
(1). The victim has forgiven him. (2). Polanski is 76 years old. (3). Judge Espinosa (presiding judge on the dismissal case) has said that after reviewing the record, there was "substantial misconduct" (his words) in Polanski's previous case by both the Judge and the DA. (4). The DA admitted to prohibited ex parte communications with the previous judge. (5). When it became clear he could face sanctions by the State Bar for his admission, he changed his story and said he lied on camera. (6). this fiasco is costing the taxpayers of a bankrupt state a lot of money. And for what? For the privilege of locking an old man up and paying for his medical care until he dies? I'm depressed watching conservatives gloat about this. It isn't very conservative.
You will also find that a lot of those same people in the system were abused by a "Polanski" some where along the line, and were emotionally damaged by the encounter(s) to the point of becoming antisocial enough to end up there in the penitentiary…
So, sorry, Average Joe…in some cases, a certain amount of "natural justice" just might occur…which should be enough of an incentive to keep your abusive hands off children in the first place…
You people are unbelievable. While I agree that he should pay for his crime, this man is a holocaust survivor and had his wife and unborn child killed by Manson and his troupe of murderers. This man has been traumatized over and over and what he should get is psychiatric care.
I didn't want to come across as sounding like I was demanding you present your credentials before I would accept them as true. I didn't want to sound judgmental.
Actually I just want to be like the rest of the group. The red is an unfair advantage and if someone is doing a fast scroll then the red will catch their eye. I never did get the whole voting thing anyway.
I sit corrected.
One of the many tasks I've done at my job over the years is quality management audits. And its a lot like law. What exactly is the meaning of "is"? And it drove me nuts. There's findings, there's appeals, re-appeals, just insane.
That's what I was referring to. I commend you for your work in defense of federalism!
The only reason Afghanistan hasn't been tamed by now is economics. There's not enough money to be made there to justify the costs of ruling. Hence, why they're still so tribal.
I believe Bush & Co. understood bib looser's plan. Plan A) US invades or at least bombs Arabia, which is why so many 9/11 hijackers where Arabs. Plan B) US invades or bombs Pakistan, which is why 3 or 4 of them were Pakis. Plan C) US invade Afghanistan, where he'd play the same game he played with the Soviets.
Bush & Co. came up with a plan D) Move the central front to Iraq where the US could deal with the influx of foreign terrorists on our terms.
And liberals claim Bush was a moron because he was a poor public speaker. What's happening in Afghanistan these days is what you get with poor leadership.
Wishing such harm on someone else isn't the best example of being better than the guy you're pointing fingers at. It's not right.
But a guy who killed a convenience store clerk, especially one that regrets his deed is better than an unapologetic rapist.
Okay, all joking aside, 100% serious question(s):
The most likely scenario at this point is that he's going to be extradited and he's going to do SOME kind of time, or at least face some kind of "sanction." Also likely: If he does time, it's going to be more than his lawyer's want but probably less than what his more vocal detractors want.
So, here's my question. Those of you who want "blood for blood" here – i.e. you want him to live the rest of his days locked up, you're joking about him getting brutalized in prison, etc. – since you're not gonna get that, what DO you want? What punishment that he could plausibly get would "satisfy" you? I mean REAL stuff, not cartoonish "rargh! lock `im in a room with like fifty abuse-survivors!!" crap. And follow-up: Do you think that anything you can think of on those lines is a WORSE punishment than the fact that from right now to his obituary and beyond NOTHING written about him or his work will exist without a mention of his crime? That in this modern media age he'll wear the "brand" forever? I mean, what could really be worse but also more just than that – the fact that the immortality of his work will also mean the immortality of his shame?
"Facing Longer Sentence Today than in ‘77"
Well, he better be. He committed a new crime since then.
"He ordered the leaking of secret CIA memos and Libby had to take the fall for him"
That's not what Libby took the fall for. If it was, he would have been convicted of leaking info on a secret agent, or whatever the specific charge is, instead of perjury. And thank God he got convicted of something, since it allows people like you to go on pretending there was a crime involved in the Plame affair, one of the weakest political scandals I've ever seen.
Knowing modern liberals like the back of my hand, as I do, in general they come in three flavors.
Type A are fairly decent people, who consider themselves democrats because that's what their parents, family and friends were. It just seems natural, because they've been spoon fed the standard liberal talking points their entire lives. These people are salvageable. When you sit down and rationally debate using facts and logic, they will almost always, usually concede they haven't really through through their positions.
Type B are wackos. Nut jobs, over the edge, waste of time, don't even bother. Think Michael Moore fans.
Type C – these are the worst of the worst. They know what they're saying is a full out right lies, they don't care, and they don't care, because they're getting rich and powerful. Think Al Gore, Obama, the Clintons.
These are the dangerous ones. They've hijacked what the democrat party used to stand for, they scream they are still for that, and then they use it to peruse power and money.
I like the voting thing, not because I'm looking for affirmation and adulation, but it does let me get a feel for the type of debate that's found on this site. And while I've never gone red, I've gotten my share of thumbs down. But I don't care, if I feel strongly about something, I'm going to speak up about it.
I got a ton of grief over my assertion that the cop from Ct. was wrong to arrest the professor in his own home. But I was also pleased to see, that when I presented my reasons, more than a few people changed their minds.
Probably the easiest way to lose the red tag would be to create a new account with a slightly different handle, then you start off at zero again.
I think three years for fleeing the country to avoid sentencing would be adequate. If he even survived the sentence he'd be a broken, disgraced, 80-year-old man.
As to the "what could be worse" question: I guess dying and finding out that the God of your fathers who you consciously rejected in order to live an indulgent life of selfish depravity, actually does exist. That would be worse.
100% serious answers.
I've met many Type A liberals and they are a step from renouncing their mental disorder. But the family history keeps them from doing it. They can walk to the door but can't step through it. I've met many self-proclaimed liberals who, if I didn't know, sound more conservative than me. Which makes me think they don't even know the difference between the two. The other two categories are loons and can't even be debated with. They gather information from union rags, liberal web sites and don't research any of the information. The just accept it because another liberal said it. I don't accept much at face value and I would rather find out what I can on the subject before putting my name on it. It doesn't always work, but I like learning. I'll never be a liberal because of that.
It's also important to remember who are calling themselves "liberals" these days. Because they sure aren't liberals.
Classical liberals believed in personal responsibility and individual freedom. They believed liberty comes from those ideals, think of the founding fathers. I use the term "modern liberals" to differentiate the current version from true liberalism.
The people who claim the title liberal these days are just rehashed communists, socialists, statists. They started out as communists, but once that jig was up, they started calling themselves socialists. When they trashed that term, they started using liberal. And, as they've pretty much destroyed that term, now they're moving over to call themselves progressives.
But what ever they call themselves, it doesn't change who they are, and what they're about.
The people you talk about have soiled the liberal label so much that they call themselves progressives now.
Polanski is getting what he deserves…hopefully.
But where's the outrage over the 30 Republican Senators who are standing up for rapists? That's pretty reprehensible. Shame on them.
You meant Charles Manson and Dick Cheney, you idiot ?
What do you think of Chuck_Starchasser, should he go to prison too ?
The software they use seems to be flakey at times. I wouldn't worry about double-posting. The HuffPo would probably crucify you for it, but it seems to be kindler/gentler here. You have to stay on top of it though.
Child killers are the same as child molesters. They are in the same sphere of unspeakable and unimaginable inhuman depravrity. People who commit crimes against children are housed together in prison, separated from the general population because they have crossed a threshold that even the most violent criminals won't.
And of course you could relate to a killer. You said it yourself: "The only time I could consider killing anyone is in self defence." And in that statement lies the answer to your original question. You and I and every other adult generally have the physical and mental capability to mount self defense of our psyches and our bodies. The vast majority of children do not. They are truly defenseless and this is why crimes against children are so repulsive.
Sorry, I'm from NY, I know the infamous prisons in this part of the country. I grabbed a name that I knew.
Yeah, I heard that when Geraldo or someone interviewed him, Manson rambled on about still being pissed off at a guy in France (referring to Polanski), leaving many to believe that he would kill the man if he ever had access to him.
What purpose is served? I'll tell you exactly what purpose is served. A child predator is off the streets.
My question is why would you want to see a confessed rapist walking the streets?
Since I have no idea who he is, what happened, or any idea of the circumstances, it would be ludicrous of me to say anything about the subject.
Depressed? He should be happy. He`s now got a shot at running into Manson and extracting some revenge.
Sarah,get back on your meds…pronto!
It is obvious that the comments are not coming from Europeans -not a single one of them.O key -it was not nice what he did,but it was not rape-rape.You can be a child at 20 and a grown woman at 13 -in the past people were marryinfg at this age and living happily,without 60 % divorce rate.The "child",well experienced did not seem horrified,she know 9at least two previous lovers 0 waht is was all about.She could not have told everybody around _yes,it was not bad.she had to deny.he believed she was willing.There is a saying _if a lady says "no " it means "maybe,is she says "maybe " it means yes and if she says "yes " she is not a lady.she was nnot traumatized -at least not by tjhis r"rape " ,but ,in her own opinion ,by what happened later.It is a real pity he was caught and I hope that they will ket him free.By the way -this hysteria with "sexual harassment " deserves a good psychologist to look at .
Polish Lady -happily harassed all my life
Thanks, man. I prob'ly came across too strong, but I sometimes feel compelled to defend my profession. I mean, I know there's a lot of weasel lawyers out there, but there's a core group of guys who plod along, trying to have a better life and just do good for people. These days, being a lawyer is more about covering your butt than helping. Freakin' government @$$hats….
Yeah Todd, it does the same to me. Who's jewels do you have to….nevermind.
And my posts disappeared last night. So I edited and reposted them because I thought the moderator was being a harda$$ over my language or the content. But then I checked today and they were all there. So now I look like an idiot who double-posts and I had to go back and delete the original ones (which were better) because the revised ones had higher ratings.
Confused yet?
Oh yeah, and I posted that "Jewels!" remark below just to mess with the moderator. But that was before I realized the site was jacking with me.
You lost me once you started talking about "society" like it was an individual thing unto itself. I don't "do" collectivism.
So if he comes back here and the judge sentences him to "time served" i.e. his now-current incarcertation in Switzerland – which in the end is almost-definately going to constitute more time than the original guilty plea sentence – you'll be cool with that? Cause it's one of the more likely scenarios right now.
Pretty passive-aggressive of you, Booby. Hitting too close to home for you?
Here's another…Polanski had better answer for the whole package in full, or some folks might take to more "drastic" measures to protect society from the rabid dogs…
LOL! Indeed, I figured you were refering to the waste handling portion. Someone has to clean up after them.
"How can someone be so misinformed and so easily led?"
Umm, I'd say it's because ddaichiro's an idiot.
But you still didn't answer these questions:
"Can you provide specific evidence of illegal assassinations and death squads…?
"Can you specify exactly what law was violated, and when specifically he ordered CIA information with held?"
ddaichiro,
Don't forget to answer those questions you didn't answer.
Putting aside all views on morality, etc – the law is the law. People who break it will be punished. Justice must be served.
Not at all. He backed out of a sweet-heart deal and fled jurisdiction. He should now be totally exposed to all the charges that were never tried and the sentence (whatever it was to be) served.
Bring up all the old charges and try them now. NO deals, no mental evaluations, no BS.
Whatever else happens he should die in prison, whether by being there a long time…..or not.
Why bother? Your mind is already made up. I have nothing that isn't already out there.
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