HBO’s Potential New Star ‘Licked Doorknobs’ to Make Republicans Sick
by John NolteThe first reaction to a story like this is get wrapped ’round the axle of HBO’s hypocrisy, so let’s get that out of the way: Of course no Republican who had behaved in the same manner as ”sex columnist” Dan Savage would get a shot at an HBO show. But there’s really no hypocrisy when you realize that Bill Maher’s network is waging ideological war. Through that prism of clarity, the network’s desire to do business with and thrust Mr. Savage further into the American cultural/political landscape is perfectly consistent.
For those of you unfamiliar with Savage, here’s an excerpt from a Salon piece he wrote in 2000 titled “Stalking Gary Bauer.” The set-up was simple, Savage volunteered at Republican Gary Bauer’s presidential campaign headquarters and decided, “…if it’s terrorism Bauer wants, then it’s terrorism Bauer is going get[.]“:
Naked, feverish and higher than a kite on codeine aspirin, I called the Bauer campaign and volunteered. My plan? Get close enough to Bauer to give him the flu, which, if I am successful, will lay him flat just before the New Hampshire primary. …
I went from doorknob to doorknob. They were filthy, no doubt, but there wasn’t time to find a rag to spit on. My immune system wasn’t all it should be — I was in the grip of the worst flu I had ever had — but I was on a mission. If for some reason I didn’t manage to get a pen from my mouth to Gary’s hands, I wanted to seed his office with germs, get as many of his people sick as I could, and hopefully one of them would infect the candidate.
So, much as it pains me to confirm a hateful stereotype of gay men — we will put anything in our mouths — I started licking doorknobs. The front door, office doors, even a bathroom door. When that was done, I started in on the staplers, phones and computer keyboards. Then I stood in the kitchen and licked the rims of all the clean coffee cups drying in the rack.
Acting out his burning hostility in such an inappropriate manner wasn’t a one shot deal, either. As recently as 2006, Savage declared in a videotaped interview that Green Party candidate Carl Romanelli should:
“…be dragged behind a pickup truck until there’s nothing left but the rope.”
Not only does the aptly named Savage take political discourse well beyond the pale, his noxious and dangerous behavior (what if Savage had given a vulnerable child or elderly person the flu?) appears to be what he’s most famous for — unless you count his syndicated sex column “Savage Love,” where Savage’s infamous attacks on Senator Rick Santorum and Pastor Rick Warren are too grotesque to detail here.
For those of you still not convinced, here’s the 2007 transcript from a radio interview Savage did where he joked about “hate-f__king” Pastor Fred Phelps:
INTERVIEWER: You’re stuck in a desert island with Dennis Hastert, Rush Limbaugh and Fred Phelps. You’ll be freed if you f–k one of them. Who are you going to do and why are they the best choice?
SAVAGE: Good God. Must I answer this question? I guess… uh… Fred Phelps, because he’s the most revolting of the three –way out in front of Hastert, and edging Limbaugh by a hair.
Why Fred? Well, I figure I might have an easier time working up a hate-f–k boner for Phelps than the other two. Plus he’s the skinniest and I likes ‘em skinny. But, man, just thinking about it makes me worry that I’ll never get a boner again. Out, out, damn mental image!
Savage’s beyond-the-pale political high-jinks have largely flown under the radar thanks to the indifference of the same mainstream media currently obsessing over average American citizens speaking up in town hall meetings. Thankfully for Savage, an openly gay Leftist, he’s the member of a protected class, which means he’ll never be held accountable for his behavior — on the contrary. True to form, HBO appears ready to reward him with a spot on their influential network.
Alexander Marlow contributed to this report.
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i'd like to see this guy go up against Michael Savage.
2 men enter 1 man leaves
Who cares? Just another idiot.
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Dan Savage is depraved. Period. If you have ever read his column then you have had a glimpse into Sodom and Gomorrah prior to their destruction. Seriously, this guy would make even many on the left vomit in disgust. That HBO would give this sicko a show shows another level of decent into the black abyss by that network. Anyone that subscribes to that network needs to really examine if that is a useful way to spend their money.
I like BuckwheatPicard's idea! THUNDERDOME!
Despite periodically having great television series such as Band of Brothers and The Soprano's, Me thinks it's time, particularly in a recession, to keep the cash in my pocket and try and let this network follow NBC into the ratings toilet. I believe, on balance, the world would be a better place without HBO.
I gotta agree with Tomtom29, just another idiot who does not deserve one minute of anyone's time.
Oh and if anyone who DID get sick after what this freak did happens to hear about it, I think he's ripe for a lawsuit.
The writer is exactly right, it could have easily been an elderly person or a child or maybe a person with a vulnerable immune system. Did the silly queen even think of that?
He's ugly, dirty and vile, and not because he's gay, just because he's a creep.
And if he wants to lick doorknobs, I guess he would realize that Barack Obama is not exactly a pro-gay president either. Maybe he gets distracted when he thinks of the Dreamboat President. Obama's on vacation, so I guess a chestie shot is going to "leak" to the press this week. Ugh.
What a man! He can lick anyone and anything! All comers! Actually, It would be fitting if the moron caught something worse than the flu from one of the knobs.
HBO lost me when they canceled Deawood and then put Rosie's cruise video on one of their "Family" channels within the same year. They'll never get another dime from me, ever.
If any of you out there pay for HBO, you're part of the problem.
If that freak ever did that to a place I work at, I would find out where he eats and get a job in the kitchen. I hope he likes my "gravy."
Anyone need more proof Liberalism is a mental disorder? There are varying degrees, but it's all insanity.
I love Dan Savage and his column. His language is at times over-the-top, but he's not a pundit – he's a sex advice columnist. That doorknob-licking incident was hyperbole designed to get attention and express his dismay at the over-the-top anti-gay statements coming from certain political leaders. As he explained in his book "Skipping Towards Gomorrah," he didn't actually lick any doorknobs. He was just angry. Did you know that when the Iraq war started, he made himself the most-hated man in Seattle by coming out IN FAVOR of the invasion? His books are thoughtful and funny (though definitely explicit and adult-oriented), and his column and podcast have helped thousands of people work out relationship problems that would have otherwise broken them up. Yes, he's a "lefty" but that's pretty much by default, since there's no place on the right for sex-positive, openly gay, married (in Canada) in a longtime committed relationship loudmouths like Dan Savage.
…and Iowa never charged him with vote fraud in 2000, even though he registered to vote using the address of a hotel and cast a vote in the caucus. Disgusting.
"…Fred Phelps, because he’s the most revolting of the three …"
To be fair, the Reverend Fred Phelps is an azzhat of the first order. Phelps is the Kansas minister who travels around the country protesting at the funerals of US military servicemen, claiming that every combat death is God's punishment on this nation for tolerating homosexuality.
I detest Phelps just about as much as Dan Savage does (minus the hate-sodomizing). I guess that proves once again that even a broken clock like Dan Savage is right twice a day.
No place on the right for sex-positive, openly gay loudmouths like Dan Savage? Ever hear of Tammy Bruce?
I beg to differ. There's no place in the gay community for a conservative.
Lalalalala can't hear you! Tammy Bruce does not exist! Gay Patriot does not exist! GOProud does not exist! Rethuglicans hate gays! Ask any liberal and they'll tell you!
wrong if someone wants to live a homosexual lifestyle, that is certainly their choice and right. Many people won't like it, but many people don't like a lot of things.
Many of us have no problem with a domestic union of some sort. but you can't just redefine a word like marriage to have it mean what you want.
The religious and the legal unions are different, they just happen to be carried out by the same person in many cases.
Here's what I don't get. HBO used to do a pretty good job with original programming over the 30+ years I've been a subsciber. But over the last several years it's really been crap. Now adding this lame assed show is another nail. My problem is that my cable system bundles HBO w/ Cinemax and Showtime HD. If I cancel one, I'll pay more for the others. It's clear, the monopoly of the cable systems are still pretty much out of control, and no one wants to address it, but it's all turned into a pretty paltry fare.
As to this silly savage, he should join forces with Hilton and Maher. A trifecta of dunces.
it is easy to dislike someone as vulgar as Phelps. This guy taking a stand against him is not really saying much.
what is this hate-rape stuff? I have never heard anyone on the right ever talk about this or create a list of potential victims. What vile people. the fact that someone would actually discuss this is beyond me.
The liberals must be tremendously proud to have such a brilliant guy as their mouthpiece. Pun intended. Funny, if his point of view, ideas, and political arguments are so solid, why does he have to do this? I've seen dogs and cats with better hygiene practices.
This is a deliberate tactic. The guy wants to be so over the top in his nonsense, some idiot network will have to give him a show. I'm with John Nolte, HBO is the logical landing place for this leftist moron.
Here's to hoping Bill "doucherocket" Maher drops the soap in Savage's dressing room…..
That's my problem too. I can't dump HBO until my promotional period ends so I'm stuck having to scroll past all the HBO channels until I get to something that won't lower my IQ by 30 points.
What's with the "hate-f–k" b.s. with all these leftists? Why not call it what it is? Rape.
@MidniteRambler
Phelps is definitely a hypocrite. He hates the homosexuality, but not those who practice it. That's why the Bible lists homosexuality as a sin because he doesn't want people to suffer the negatives consequences. It's no different than how parents will prevent a child from touching a hot stove because it will hurt them.
In short, God saying "No!" to something (homosexuality, the lottery, alcoholism, assisted suicide, etc.) is for our protection and an expression of His genuine love.
How about Senator Claire Mccaskill D Mo. spitting on Mitt Romney's ear peice between interviews.
Human filth the likes of Dan Savage thrive on the Left. There is no rightwing counterpart. That should tell you something.
Well Mishu, simply because….. A Rose by any other name smells just as sweet. Or atleast I am sure that is what they would say anyway. And besides Rape is so dirty, let them put a "cool,hip,spin" on it.
Yeah, but Fred Phelps is just about the biggest douche I've ever seen. What's offensive is to put him in a category with Rush….well, with anybody. Phelps is a despicable. If you're not sure who he is, Google him and go to his "church" website.
@Dark Eden
That's weird. I thought for sure there was an openly gay conservative columnist named Charles Winecoff on BH:
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/cwinecoff/2009/...
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/cwinecoff/2009/...
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/cwinecoff/2009/...
So, you can be gay and GOP.
One more thing. Traditional marriage amendments keep passing largely because of support from Black DEMOCRATS, i.e., Obama supporters. This is due to the Black community's view on faith and family:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/18/a...
And growing Black resentment of gay activists tolerating White racism in their midst:
http://holycoast.blogspot.com/2008/11/n.html
In short, party affiliation is no longer a good way to determine who is "pro-gay" or not.
Log Cabin Republicans?
Zing.
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Godda agree with Tomtom. Who cares? If that is HBO's audience, so be it.
I cannot fathom having to feed my children by pimping that crap.
If the authorities do not prosecute this guy for attempted mass murder and terrorism, then just read this article as a handbook on how to get away with it.
The fact that this person can actually write about it and brag about it with impunity shows just how corrupt this country is. Where is law enforcement and the justice department on this? Probably hunting down tea party people and townhall protesters. Sheesh
Oh, and let's be sure and stab our CIA operatives in the back, too, ok?
I pretty much gave up HBO in the 90's. It turned into a lighter version of Showtime – the commie lefty network. I do, however, dvr movies when it's free weekend, but they have so much crap on it's hard to find something to record.
Because that would politically incorrect? Or maybe it's because a woman is not involved… (note I know men get raped too)…. or maybe it's because gay men don't "rape" other men…. Oh who the crap knows… this guy is beyond effed in the head that the mental institution doesn't even want him and that's why he is here to plague society.
Just another reason I don't pay for that channel…
What a nasty vile insignificant little twit.
One day I was bumming because HBO had no Sopranos, had canceled Deadwood and Carnivale and their boxing had been a series of set-up fights for way too long. I checked the HBO guide on my satellite and the first thing that showed was Bill Maher.
I canceled HBO that evening. And now it has gotten worse?
That was the perfect example of today's liberal. Overgrown children.
Not that it matters to Hollyweird anymore, but did anyone else happen to notice that the flag is incorrectly displayed in the photo above?
/Just the odd stuff I notice
Another foul mouthed abused as a child puke. This type of illness should be locked up behind gates. Bring back mental institutions for folks like this.
Dude simply needs to be beaten within inches, then shot in the face. He will be a hunted man.
I'd say that black homophobia is the greater problem than one stupid guy yelling out a racial slur in rage. Obama panders to Christian gay-bashers by throwing gays under the bus. And remember Donnie McClurkin, the homophobic "ex-gay" gospel "singer" he had with him on his South Carolina bus tour?
Obigot said he would get rid of DADT and DOMA. He lied. He attacked gay marriage with that "God is in the mix" BS, not only insulting gays but married hetero atheists or anyone married by a Justice of the Peace. He's no better than the fellow black homophobe he beat for the U.S. Senate race in 2004.
GayPatriot is so 2004, and so is his party-over-principles GOProud group. This woman is the real deal, and she's witnessed first hand the problems:
By the way, a heterosexual couple can get with one little slip of paper that costs less than fifty bucks what gay couples have to pay thousands of dollars to a shyster for. If you believe that that's fair or that that's good enough for gays, you are inhuman.
http://www.aconservativelesbian.com/2009/05/19/my...
Bottom line: no gay couple is free to enter into a non-sham marriage (the "a gay man can marry any woman they want, therefore it's not discrimination" lying point is exactly the same as to the anti-interracial marriage arguments).
And as for "tolerance", I don't believe in it. It's nothing more than patronizing civility to that which you dislike. And I refuse to be tolerant of anyone who doesn't support my rights, or anyone who even believes they're up for debate. Your visceral feelings and your religious beliefs are not a valid basis for government policy.
There is no such thing as a homosexual lifestyle.
And heterosexuals have redefined marriage at the drop of a hat. They were the ones who redefined it to outlaw monogamy. They were the ones who removed the same-race requirement (by that nasty judicial fiat, no less).
How can I, a Hollywood outsider, do anything to challenge Hollywood when those who live inside Hollywood are too afraid to even show their faces.
Is Jon Voight the only man standing among so many cowards who won't even show their faces?
The notion that Republicans or Conservatives should not ignore Hollywood is difficult to believe when those inside Hollywood shut-up and play for Bill Maher and Jon Stewart's team.
So biological warfare is now acceptable as long as it's being waged against conservatives?
If this keeps up, it won't be long before liberals are proposing herding us into special internment camps.
The post generated several feelings with anger and revulsion leading the pack. However, after those emotions calmed down, I was simply left with a sense of sadness. Sadness for a young man so consumed with hate for others and for himself. Sadness for a cable network that would use such a man and endeavor to create more just like him. And sadness, for a pop culture that barely raises an eyebrown about it.
Dan Savage is depraved. But so is Gary Bauer.
God bless Eric Brescia:
http://belowthebeltway.com/2009/08/22/republican-...
Are y'all going to call him a RINO? (Seriously, to those of you who refused to vote for McCain because he wasn't conservative enough, you are as much to blame for the Obacle as the Dems).
Why buy any of it?
There is such a thing as same-sex rape. I was once acquainted with a victim of it.
If you say so, which of course makes it right. /sarc
A minority does not have the same right to force a majority to accept them simply because they think it is right.
I've been contemplating canceling my HBO for many reasons. This just did it for me. The only show I'll miss is The First Ladies Detective Agency. True Blood lost my interest as soon as they started trashing Christians and trying to equate dead, blood sucking vampires wanting equal rights to the current gay population wanting equal rights. Please. Enough with the "messages". HBO has turned into a petri dish for liberal ideology and finger wagging. Thanks for the expose John…goodbye HBO.
He's a bug, don't give a damn about him being gay, the issue, is he's a hatemongering slug.
Ony, ONLY on the left do people openly say things like, I HATE conservatives, all of em, they should all get horrible diseases and die, I wanna see them suffer in agony and writhe in pain before me. I hate em so much, even the ones in my family, they are all to evil to be allowed to live, let alone speak….
I've seen those words in nearly direct quotes from all kinds of leftwing sites. They don't hide it, they know that even when discovered, the MSM repeats the narrative, the conservatives all hate gays, poor people and children. The left is the ulimate political outlet for bitter angry people who hate as a default setting.
Obnoxious infantilism…
Monogamy is illegal? when did this happen? My wife and I are going to be in big trouble apparently.
I remember back when HBO basically only did movies and comedy specials, and that was it.
On a side note, I love how much vitriol the left spew about hating republicans and christians, and they never get reprimanded for it by anybody. We do it though, and you'd think we just ok'd baby-eating. And their excuse? "Well, our situation is different" – that's what they always say. Compare the response to EVERYTHING Bush did (and Palin) to everyone's response to Obama, and they'll say that what we're doing is wrong and racist, while what they did to Bush was fine because "that's different", followed by some vague reference to either Iraq or the recession. For some reason our circumstances just aren't good enough, however for them, it's always okay and encouraged.
And I wouldn't worry about Savage – there's a very warm seat in Hell reserved for people like him, that's for sure.
Because then they can't hide behind euphemisms. If you take something horrible and call it something that doesn't sound as horrible, you are allowed to say it without retribution. At the end of the day it still means the same thing.
Apparently Bill Clinton was following the law……
Come on, you can't be surprised at anything HBO does. If they're willing to give Bill Maher a show, obviously they'll hire any idiot.
Dan Savage is not a human being but a disgusting, perverted deviant who is in the same class as Jeff Dahmer.
Are their shows that bad? I still subscribe but haven't watched anything since the Sopranos ended.
If you're paying thousands of dollars for legal documents, you deserve it. You can find legally binding documents – power of attorney, a living will, etc. – for as little as $10 to $20 a pop, if you shop around hard enough.
Exactly, Fred. Temptations aren't sins, behaviors are. Simple as that.
Regarding Phelps, he's also the man who led the protests at Gordon B. Hinckley's funeral. I'm sorry, but whether you agree with his religious views or not, Gordon B. Hinckley was one of the kindest, gentlest, most truly tolerant people that have ever lived. He never had an unkind word for anybody, unless he was being self-deprecating. Of all the people in the world to protest, why would you pick somebody like that?
And then they follow it right up by saying that the reason we should be killed is because we're so hateful and intolerant. The hypocrisy is staggering, and yet none of them can see it.
Why doesn't this "confession" qualify as grounds for an assault charge? Doesn't willfully attempting to transmit a harmful and potentially debilitating or even fatal bug to another person qualify as a crime?
Say whatever you want, you're not going to get your way.
Hey Jennifer, Dan Savage is a disgusting pig. You mean he backtracked in his book, don't you? You mean he lied when he said he didn't do it. He did do it and now wants to pretend it never happened.
attmay,
Your visceral feelings are not a valid basis for government policy either, asshole. I don't support gay marriage, and it is very much open to debate. Just because you want it, doesn't mean you're going to get it.
NO to gay marriage.
Yeah, kinda like how abortion is just a 'choice' or 'medical procedure.' It's so much easier to call it that than murder.
I think so. Now, who would this get reported to?
What's really scary is that Savage is probably the most reasonable leftie in Seattle.
I wonder how this dipstick would have felt if he gave somebody with an immune system problem, u know the one that tends to be "happier", the flu and they died.
What a tool…………….
She did WHAT?
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/260890
Right. I think they think if they use the term hate f— we're all supposed to cheer along. "Yeah, hate f— that SOB!" Replace it with "Yeah, rape that SOB!" – and suddenly, we're not cheering anymore.
The left win their battles by repackaging evil in an attactive new suit.
Dan Savage is depraved. Period. If you have ever read his column then you have had a glimpse into Sodom and Gomorrah prior to their destruction. Seriously, this guy would make even many on the left vomit in disgust. That HBO would give this sicko a show shows another level of descent into the black abyss by that network. Anyone that subscribes to that network needs to really examine if that is a useful way to spend their money.
Wouldn't be surprised to one day read Savage displayed it that way on purpose
Sounds like he's a typical liberal, just more honest than most.
Then no to any marriage, or any civil rights laws whatsoever, breeder.
I meant polygamy. Sorry.
Yes we will. We will get gay marriage in all 50 states and if you try to stop us, whatever is done to you will be brought upon yourself.
It's nice to know hetero supremacy is alive and well.
Terrorists don't support gay marriage either.
How wonderful. Showing how mature you are by advocating the beating and murder of a man.
I think I'll make a call to the FBI.
The same applies to the majority.
From now on, you "straight" "people" want tolerance, you show it to us or you don't get it.
Isn't biological warfare a violation of international law?
I like Dan Savage because he's a swishier, even less intelligent version of Andrew Sullivan, something that simply shouldn't be possible, yet does exist. He's the pundit equivalent of finding the Loch Ness monster or a Fall Out Boy album that doesn't suck.
But when you compare the show, which is as skeezy as a doorknob licked by Savage, to the wonderful novels, it's very sad. I had to give up after three painful episodes. To faithful viewers: does it get better after a while?
At least he's not responsible for overpopulation.
I hope someone straight bashes you. Beat you until you are crippled. That would be funny. You little breeder.
another reason I'm glad I cancelled HBO after the "Soprano's" ended…
Unlike the gay leftists (and just because I call you gay bashers out on your bigotry does not make me a leftist. I voted for McCain because I despise Obama, and except for authorizing the military to fight a small band of pirates, I approve of nothing the Obacle has done so far), I'm no hypocrite. I don't believe in "tolerance". I consider it merely patronizing civility towards something one dislikes.
I don't give a fig if you "tolerate" or accept me. But I'll be damned if I'm going to let the law deny me and my partner marriage rights. No one is fighting to take your rights away. You heterosexuals can not lose your marriage rights no matter what. Even if you are convicted of multiple homicides and get the death penalty, you can still marry someone of the opposite sex on death row. Meanwhile, when gay couples ask to be allowed to qualify for marriage licenses, suddenly it becomes a special privilege that must be defended from the evil queens at all cost.
The Religious Wrong belongs on the same fringes of society as Neo-Nazis. They are not welcome in the GOP anymore. We're taking back the Republican Party from these swine. You have dragged us down for the last time.
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And this guy is not being prosecuted because…….?
I remember that incident very well. My dad was working on the Bauer campaign. (Maybe he says now he didn't lick any doorknobs, but who knows? He was either lying about doing it or lying about not doing it, so how are we to know which time he was lying?)
Now I wish I had HBO so I could cancel it.
You guys need to come up with more adjectives other than "Disgusting." You're making Dan Savage sound like a thesaurus in comparison.
I am quite certain that if it became known that a right-winger had infiltrated the Obaman campaign, just to use an example, and had attempted to infect the candidate and his staff with some disease, and what is more the infiltrator had admitted his misdeed, the reaction would have been the same. In short silence from the main stream media, no prosecution, no reprecussions whatsoever, as a matter of fact we could expect the criminal to have his own television show and to be lauded for his actions. I am correct about this, right? There is not a double standard when it comes to things like this.
Let me get this straight (pun intended) the person who is threatening to get his way by gun point is calling other people terrorists? Liberal hypocrites never fail to amaze me.
With Hollywood these days you should be grateful it's not on fire.
While your at it you may want to tell them about enforcing your views on others at gunpoint think they might be interested in that too
He'd probably love your gravy.
how bout vile little weasel?
[We will get gay marriage in all 50 states, and I don't care if it's at gun point. That's how the South was desegregated. ]
The South was desegregated through peaceful laws (e.g., Civil Rights Act) not force of arms.
A couple of flaws about using guns for force gay "marriage" on the rest of us.
First, conservatives own more guns than liberal gay rights activists.
Second, Black supremacists like the New Black Panthers are well-armed and REALLY loath those of the homosexual lifestyle. Do you think it was an accident that "No to 8" activists didn't deface churches in BLACK parts of California?:
http://lashawnbarber.com/archives/2008/11/19/are-...
So, you and your activist friends are better off trying to use peaceful means to promote gay "marriage."
So you we should replace them with a haters like you?
He is responsible for the lowering of the IQ level of the country
Attmay wrote:
[There is no such thing as a homosexual lifestyle.]
Actually, gay activist Peter Tatchell provides a strong argument for homosexuality being a choice not a genetic trait:
http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/arti...
Tatchell's position is strengthened by the ever growing list of ex-gays. Here are two examples:
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Legal/Default.aspx?id=6...
Ihttp://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2009/07/1...
Attmay wrote:
[And heterosexuals have redefined marriage at the drop of a hat. They were the ones who redefined it to outlaw monogamy. They were the ones who removed the same-race requirement (by that nasty judicial fiat, no less).]
Actually, gay marriage can't be equate to interracial marriage. Blogger LaShawn Barber explains using the Loving v. Virginia case that made interracial marriage legal in America:
"Loving [v. Virginia] did not give people the right to marry whomever they wished; it gave them the freedom to marry without racial restrictions. The goal of interracial marriage bans and legalized segregation was to maintain a subordinate class of citizens based on race. The goal of same-sex marriage bans is to protect traditional marriage, not maintain a subordinate class based on “sexual orientation.” Anyone with only half a brain knows that homosexuals in the U.S. hardly are a
subordinate class.
It’s time for homosexual “marriage” proponents to find a more apt and a less offensive argument to gain validation and acceptance of a lifestyle choice."
Nuff said.
@pandax
Yeah, attmay certainly sounds like the KKK (also supported by Democrats) who scream "I'm the victim of oppression" while lynching the "uppity" Black guy.
This also may explain why liberal gay activists remain silent when their White racist peers attack defenseless Blacks voters:
http://holycoast.blogspot.com/2008/11/n.html
Or rape defenseless Black boys:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/06/media...
The fact that those on the Left (at least, those in positions of media-supported prominence) never seem to condemn the most vile words and actions of their members and allies suggests to me a rather disturbing conclusion: they remain silent because deep in their hearts, they agree.
The hypocritical responses of Pelosi and her ilk to Tea Party protesters ring all the more hollow when you consider their behavior during the Bush administration, as well as "personalities" like Dan Savage. The tactic always appears to be "Accuse your enemies of doing what you yourselves do."
So.. this guy is suppose to be funny right? I mean that he's SUPPOSE to bring the.. how do the kids say it? The LOLZ? Yes, the LOLZ. If this hack cuts it for a comedian today than the slow kids can have him and Dane Cook too. You will be able to find me digging through my cd pile looking for Lenny Bruce, Richard Pryor, Don Rickles and George Carlin.
Two words: Pink Pistols. Bash me and you're dead.
Notice how you put "marriage" in quotation marks when referring to gay marriage. I think I'll refer to breeder "marriage" that way from now on.
You're using what people who supported Obama and O.J. Simpson believe to justify your opponents.
I mean, opposition to gay marriage. LaShawn Barber is a typical black homophobe, just like Alan Keyes.
So anything goes as long as it's tab A into slot B, huh?
Typical goyim.
Of course desegregation was achieved at gunpoint. Jim Crow may have been overruled by a Supreme Court ruling (oh, that awful judicial activism, I gots me the vapors), but to actually see that it was not being practiced required Eisenhower to send the military down to Little Rock so Ernest Green could go to college.
Hey if John Stewart is considered one of the most trusted sources for people getting there news does this surprise you?
I said "I don't care if it's at gun point". I never said anything about who owned the gun. I implied that if it was by military force, I don't care. I'm not going to start going around killing people who don't support gay marriage. That would reduce me to their level. All I meant is that if gay marriage were legal but government-run marriage license bureaus/justices of the peace refused to perform it, and the military must send troops there to enforce the law, as they did in Little Rock, AR in 1957, I won't be the one complaining.
You separate-but-equal bigots have a lot of nerve making assumptions about my intentions.
he is deliberately shocking. the most effective response is to ignore him.
(*yawn* is MOESHA on?)
No party supports the KKK anymore. 10% of its members are FBI informants. Update your lying points. And you've got a lot of nerve comparing me to the KKK when I have called for no lynching and no removal of rights from black people, while Mr. Savage (whom I defended at no time on this blog or anywhere else) has received at least two threats of physical violence. You're the one using black Democrat bigotry to justify your homophobia.
You "people" are disgusting. You will use anything to attack gay people and deny us what was legally ours in California but stolen from us by the evil of direct democracy.
The ex-gay movement is a sham. The APA, who you will probably accuse of being "liberal", says so:
http://www.apa.org/releases/therapeutic.html
I don't care if people are offended. People were offended by interracial marriage, too. It was not until 1985 that approval ratings for it reached 50%.
Homosexuality is not a choice. Religion is.
This whole country was founded at gunpoint. Slavery was abolished at gunpoint. Hitler, Mussolini and Tojo were brought down at gunpoint. Terrorism will be brought down at gunpoint.
You just keep obfuscating, distorting my arguments, and being a hateful scumbag, and see how history judges you and yours.
Gay marriage is here in six states, and it'll be coming to the other 44, and there's nothing you can do about it. So if you don't like it, move to Iran with those who also believe as you do.
Hating people who hate in response to their hatred is not the same as hating for its own sake. Homophobes hate anyone who falls outside of the man-shtups-woman dynamic. Gays hate those who hate them. You can't see the difference between that.
You "people" are driving people who hold conservative views on every other topic away from the GOP, costing them votes and helping Democrats win.
But hospitals will, and have, refused to recognize them.
I try very hard to ignore the fact that people consider Stewart a comedian. I try even harder to forget that his fanbase is made up of yapping dogs trained to get up and dance whenever he makes a snotty comment.
I could use the widespread racism, anti-semitism and homophobia in the black community, goaded on by people like Louis Farrakhan and Al Sharpton (not a homophobe, but still a racist anti-semite) who are considered heroes to many of them to paint them all with a broad brush. I could also use Obama's lying, deceit, and arrogance to paint them all with a broad brush.
But I won't. It would be dishonest and racist. That would be too Fred2ish of me.
Which, if you are any indication, would be in negative numbers by now.
Since you love using black people as a pawn in your hateful little game, dig this, from a gay black author:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/terrance-heath/hist...
It should be said that the real insult is by trying to associate Fred Phelps with anyone on the right. Fred Phelps is an insane hate monger with no morals or principles. He has more in common with Dan Savage than anyone when it comes to grotesque human behavior motivated by a love of trashing other people and desperately drawing attention to yourself.
These black homophobes would sh-t themselves if they knew who Bayard Rustin was.
Just to give the benefit of the doubt, I actually read an article about the whole True Blood gay marriage subtext and the author said something to the effect of, "Considering most of the vampires on the show are murderous psychopaths, they're not exactly doing the gay marriage crowd any favors. If they were truly partisan, all the vampires would be portrayed as innocent victims or something like that."
And one of the major characters last year was a crazy, eco-minded vegan nutjob (Amy, played by Lizzy Caplan). I won't deny those messages aren't there but this show is a bit more even-handed than it could be, given who's running it.
I realize that… I was being facecious, that is why rape is in quotation marks.
Just a reminder, Dick Cheney supports gay marriage.
This is Bush's fault!
I agree. Let him lick knobs.
No one has to make any assumptions about your intentions. Your the close minded bigot you accuse everyone else of being. Anyone who disagrees with you, you dismiss them with slurs and then you cry about people being hateful, look in the mirror first.
I agree with you on some princples. Gay and lesbian couples do deserve everything heterosexuals have access to, granted to them by right choice and law. Not religious dictation. They should be granted rights to adoption, to have a family and inheretince or marriage.
But that in no way means I agree with gay militants on the other side attacking anyone who disagrees with them as biggots or disrupting church services. Martin Luther King Jr did not, DID NOT, need to run up in a church in a nuns dress and make up to try to make a point – or rather, an ass out of himself – and doing so only hurts their attempts to open discussions on this. Some people may keep their ears covered and their asses low but the younger generation regardless of party has always been good at pushing change foward..
Atleast when they werent too busy shuffling the playlist on their MP3 or shoping for chino pants and Che t-shirts but my disdain for my generation is a subject for another time.
I enjoy the show but your mileage may vary of course.
I tuned in for the first episode and thought it was just okay. But for some reason, I was compelled to watch the second one, then the third, etc. It does get better but I've never read the novels so I have no preconceived notions or frame of reference. If you're squeamish when it comes to violence or sex, it might not be for you.
The only hateful scumbag on this thread is you sparky. Yeah Califorina which is probably the most gay friendly state in the country shot it down, why because someone actually asked the people. But that's O.K. keep on being a narrow minded bigot.
Hating people who hate in response to their hatred is not the same as hating for its own sake. Homophobes hate anyone who falls outside of the man-shtups-woman dynamic. Gays hate those who hate them. You can't see the difference
Wow so your answer is to be a loud mouth unlikeable bigot because it's OK for you to be one. There is no difference. Your only using that to justify your hate. People driving people away? The only one doing that is you. Being such a jerk pretty much has turned anyone off to you. I wouldn't worry about the GOP seems like Obama and is crew are doing a very nice job of driving people to us. See you in 2010
No I'm sure it's him and hatefilled bigots like you shooting off your mouths and crying how it's OK for you be a bigot but no one else can.
For all of you who want to make a difference or a point but don't want to cancel the abhorrent HBO-Excuuuuuuuuuuuse me? The ONLY way to send the message is to CANCEL HBO! I did it ,RIGHT after Maher's comment about OUR U.S. Soldiers "raping themselves" and it felt soooooooo good. Just do it, for crying out loud sideways. Cancel HBO and sign up for Netflix. Simple.
Interesting you mention Iran. You wail about how awful people treat gays here in the U.S. when in fact it's probably one of best places to be gay. If your such a champion of gay rights why don't you go there and protest the killing of gay people. But you won't will you? Because tough guys like you only run your mouth here were you know it's safe.
Hating people who hate in response to their hatred is not the same as hating for its own sake.
If a homophobe jumped off a bridge, would you do so too?
Please?
Thanks. Remember what triumphant libs kept saying after last November: The adults are in charge now.
They largely stopped saying that, now that I think of it.
Ugh, the lolz…I hate the l33t speak that kids use now. I hate it and I'm not even 30 yet. Heck, some my fellow late 20-somethings talk like that and it shames me.
Attmay wrote:
[Two words: Pink Pistols. Bash me and you're dead.]
Interesting.
The Black producer of Black Eyed Peas punched out Perez Hilton who insulted Will.i.am. I don't recall gay activists coming out the woodwork, demanding the producers' blood. In fact the opposite happened.
Andrew Breibert explained activists' silence this way:
"To wit: Black beats white. Gay beats white. Black beats gay."
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/abreitbart/2009...
In short, if you do shoot a Black "gay basher," the latter can cry "racism" and turn you into the "evil oppressor." So, gay activists will leave you to twist in the wind by yourself as they did with Hilton.
(cont.)
Hopefully, the Black gay basher isn't a gangmember. If he is, then you have problems. If the gangmember/basher dies from your wounds, then the gangmember's buddies will REALLY want to slaughter you for vengeance's sake. And no amount of laws against murder and "hate crimes" is going to stop them.
Thus, you're better off trying to resolve the gay "marriage" debate with words instead of violence.
Actually the APA is putting pro-gay propaganda ahead of scientific truth. They're no different than Y2K and now man-made global warming alarmists.
As for interracial marriage, it can't be equated with interracial marriage. Blogger LaShawn Barber explains using the Loving v. Virginia case that made interracial marriage legal in America:
"Loving [v. Virginia] did not give people the right to marry whomever they wished; it gave them the freedom to marry without racial restrictions. The goal of interracial marriage bans and legalized segregation was to maintain a subordinate class of citizens based on race. The goal of same-sex marriage bans is to protect traditional marriage, not maintain a subordinate class based on “sexual orientation. Anyone with only half a brain knows that homosexuals in the U.S. hardly are a subordinate class. "
It’s time for homosexual “marriage” proponents to find a more apt and a less offensive argument to gain validation and acceptance of a lifestyle choice."
I could use the widespread racism, anti-semitism and homophobia in the black community, goaded on by people like Louis Farrakhan and Al Sharpton (not a homophobe, but still a racist anti-semite) who are considered heroes to many of them to paint them all with a broad brush. I could also use Obama's lying, deceit, and arrogance to paint them all with a broad brush. ]
Well, actually, you paint all those who think gay "marriage" is wrong as bigots and terrorists.
So, isn't it hypocritical to not stereotype Black people, but then stereotype those of every race who declare marriage is a "one man, one woman" union?
Actually, read his book and you'll find out that isn't true. But I guess that's not as much fun as making things up.
The only way it could be worse is if somehow you were ever stuck in a room with frat boys, gamers and rap fans. All apperently fit very neatly into the same package of mind numbing stupidity. "Yo, dawg! You seen that mad headshot I placed on that noob? Fo' sho'! You know how I do. Straight killa!
I spend the rest of the night trying to figure out which is worse. That I am in the same age group or that some day these idiots may reproduce, producing littler more annoying offspring.
I canceled HBO earlier this year because of Bill Maher. Haven't missed it and doubt I ever will.
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