Comments on: Scorsese Ready to Trash Sinatra in Upcoming Biopic

By: Abe Wagner Cut

Abe Wagner Cut — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:36:24 +0000

[...] of English (Ching at the University of Memphis, Wagner-Lawlor at Penn State)-yields new … Scorsese Ready to Trash Sinatra in Upcoming BiopicSpielberg has long sought to develop a film tearing down Abe Lincoln, and he made a film questioning [...]

By: rxb

rxb — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 22:34:15 +0000

Of course Mr. Sinatra had his flaws and a volatile personality, but I think what is interesting is the odd study in contrast that was in his life. He could be very nice, yet he could also be a jerk. Frank Jr. probably said it best, in essence, his dad had every strength and weakness a human being could have. I think seeing both sides of the coin in regard to his personality would be the most interesting and also fair portrayal of Sinatra. Since I think the darker side of Frank, rumors and all, has been explored extensively, I will take a minute to list a few of the more generous things he has done that maybe general public has not been exposed to as often since it is not considered "sensational", it seems only bad news sells. The book "Sessions by Sinatra" by Granata, has so much good material in it that would make a great movie. Things like the fact that Frank would remember some obscure band member's name years down the road and then joke that it was great he remembered Frank after all these years. He also had quite a penchant for classical music and was well versed in even very little known foreign composers. He went out of his way to find qualified black musicians back when integration was only in it's infancy. Frank was also so focused on his work that he would sometimes churn out 4 albums a year. Another notable story, one time he invited all the musicians over to his house and waited on them hand and foot; until his Hollywood chums eventually went home because he was too busy tending to the band members. He once was also over at a bandmember's home and they were experiencing trouble getting their kids to fall asleep, so he sung them to sleep. When Frank founded Reprise Records, he let musicians focus on their own artistic leanings and not the bottom line of what would sell records. I could go on and on, sure Sinatra had his roughness but he could be a nice guy when he tried, again, it would be nice to see a few of the lesser known humanitarian things he did for people also get on the big screen.

By: shel

shel — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 04:39:49 +0000

Sorry, I didn't notice I had a reply..

Did you not understand my post? I said in reality Scorsese is more like the character in King of Comedy. His fantasies of course are of being the womanizing hard drinking ultra violent badass but in reality he's more like Rupert Pupkin. Rupert Pupkin? The weirdo who spends time in his mother's basement talking to life-size card-board cut-outs of his idols? get it? What's so difficult for you to understand, Newton?

Elia Kazan
John Ford
Luis Bunuel
Alan Rudolph
Sidney Lumet
Sam Peckinpah (a guy who lived it)
Hal Ashby
Wim Wenders
The Coen Brothers.
I love the writing of Sam Shepard, Budd Schulberg, Tennessee Williams and Horton Foote
Love the cinematography of Greg Toland, Conrad Hall, Haskel Wexler and my new favorite, Roger Deakins

you want me to go on …

By: garcon

garcon — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:21:10 +0000

PS – as for being "the Beethoven of the 20th century".
Uh – Beethoven was a composer and not a performer. Sinatra was strictly a performer, not a composer.

A lyricist? Perhaps. ("…you stick around, Jack, it may show….")

I don't know. IIIIIIIIIII doooooonnnn'''''t knoooooooowwwwwww

By: garcon

garcon — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:18:05 +0000

Great singer? – yes. I own every LP and CD released thus far.
Great man? No. In fact he was a pig. Kitty Kelly did not make that stuff up. That's why SInatra went ballistic.

As for the quote " he was having sex with a garden variety of bimbos….."
I can't possibly say anything about that.

By: Juliana

Juliana — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:22:55 +0000

Leonardo is the best actor os his generation…….YES……HE CAN MAKE EVERYTHING HE WANTS. THERE'S NO BETTER CHOICE THAN LEONARDO.
Leo and Marty were great in the aviator..as well as in The Departed.

You are all envious because Leo is young….
People usually have prejudice against young people.

PATETIC ARTICLE.

By: NickV3

NickV3 — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:07:39 +0000

I am, in fact, sitting at my desk at home, near a large bust of Beethoven, analyzing the first movement of the Missa Solemnis (which is, incidentally, pretty straightforward relative to the rest of the mass.) I say this not to brag, but rather to demonstrate that my esteem for the man and love of his music could not be greater. I agree that John's analogy was unbalanced, and I myself would not have even considered using Beethoven as the vehicle for comparison. Your points are well-taken and I essentially agree. Chuck Jones to Michaelangelo is a very good similarity. I agree with John, though, that there is room for analogy, but we must be wary and specific in the nature of our comparisons, lest we do injustice to those towering artists whose work has already endured for centuries and longer. In this case, regarding the comparison in question, there is a most profound gulf in scale. That said, you are right to insist that the analogy itself inherently predisposes some sense of scale (in this case unfairly) and your forceful reaction is justified.

By: dcase

dcase — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:56:06 +0000

that was an Italian restaurant in LA- he went there every night, alone. Had a plate of pasta and a glass of wine and went home- alone. Sad, yes…

By: TheBigLebbowski

TheBigLebbowski — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:28:51 +0000

"The only thing sillier than someone being so worked up over a singer is someone so worked up over someone so worked up over a singer … and that would be you."

Or someone who is worked up over someone else being worked up over himself being worked up over a singer and that would be you…

Or to take it further being worked over someone else being worked up over the other guy being worked up over the other guy being worked up over the singer, and that would be you…Wait, no…Me…Wait wait wait, George Bush! Yeah its all George Bushes fault!

A Screw it, Like I said, don't give a damn. I wont wish anyone ILL Will over frank Sinatra, though at least you admit its silly.

By: SuperCat

SuperCat — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 08:36:14 +0000

I remember an interview in some magazine after his son died ..a photo of Dean at a table…he looked sad.. but it made you like him more knowing he was human, not a superstar.