Review: ‘The Hurt Locker’
by John NolteKatherine Bigelow’s direction of “The Hurt Locker” is masterful and might very well place her back where she belongs, at the top of anyone’s list looking for a top-shelf action director. But that’s not enough to save the film from episodic plotting, jarring and unnecessary political statements, a troubling depiction of our troops and an even worse portrayal of the Iraqi people. This is a movie you want to like, but an unsettling after-taste lingers long after the thrill of the set-pieces fades.
Produced and scripted by Mark Boal (who embedded with a U.S. Army bomb squad operating in Baghdad), the year is 2004 and Iraq is a country under siege, thanks mainly to determined insurgents and roadside IEDs (Improvised Explosive Devices) that seem to be everywhere and frequently come with nearby triggermen lying in wait for the opportunity to do the most amount of damage, preferably to American servicemen and women. Charged with the dangerous and technically complicated job of defusing these bombs is a three-man EOD (Explosive Ordinance Disposal) team led by Staff Sergeant James (an excellent Jeremy Renner) and his squad mates Sanborn (Anthony Mackie) and Eldridge (Brian Geraghty).
The opening scene’s a wowser, and the 40 minutes that follow do their job in setting up characters, their relationships and at least giving off the appearance that we’re headed towards something bigger involving Beckham, a young Iraqi boy who sells DVDs on the base. When this storyline strangely pans out to be much ado about nothing, the plot slowly deflates into a series well-staged but interchangeable episodes with no over-arching story. You’re about an hour in when you start to feel the 130 minute runtime.
Every time “Locker” starts to weave any kind of spell something unnecessarily political comes along to break it. Mostly the sucker punches come at the end of a scene as if to say, “That will teach you for buying into it.” A tense sequence involving an Iraqi cabdriver who runs a roadblock ends with our troopers roughly handcuffing him. This superfluous drama appears to have been filmed only to allow James to give this Leftist belief an airing, “If he wasn’t an insurgent, he sure the hell is now.”
And that’s just the beginning.
Most troubling is a frighteningly unstable, near-psychotic field commander, Colonel Reed (David Morse), who orders his men to let a wounded Iraqi civilian/suspect bleed out to death even after he’s informed the man could easily be saved with a simple radio call. After watching James work, Reed approaches him with crazy eyes gushing over what a “wild man” he is. Not only is this a monstrous depiction of an American Colonel, it’s faulty storytelling. Morse is a recognizable actor and the disturbing impression his character makes is so strong you keep expecting him to return – maybe even as the film’s antagonist.
Reed isn’t the only officer to take a hit. Christian Camargo plays the utterly clueless Colonel Cambridge, a therapist assigned to help Eldridge deal with battlefield trauma. He chirps cheerily, “Going to war is a once in a lifetime opportunity. It could be fun.”
The worst, however, comes near the end. In a moment of tender humanity James risks his life to treat the body of a dead Iraqi — who may or may not be someone he knows — with respect and care. But again, we’re not allowed a pure moment presenting our troops as they are. Instead we cut to Sanford and Eldridge – two characters we’ve come to admire – only to hear this coldly matter-of-fact exchange regarding the dead Iraqi: You think that’s the “little base rat?” “I don’t know man, they all look the same.”
Not one of these moments, and there are a handful of others, is in anyway necessary to the plot or the understanding of these characters. In a movie that’s already twenty-minutes too long, what motivated Bigelow to hang on to them in a film eager to be touted as being “above politics” is beyond me.
In a throwback to Hollywood’s stereotyped depiction of unstable Vietnam vets, the Iraq War has turned our protagonist, James, into an increasingly reckless adrenaline junkie whose disregard for safety and communication protocol puts everyone around him in danger. After defusing 873 of these things, James is certainly comfortable getting off cowboying around any kind of explosives he might come across (and enjoying a cigarette afterwards), but he’s also a victim of this war, for he’s no longer in control of his own destiny. The film opens on the words “War is a drug,” and that drug is all James desires. So warped by war, even when looking into his infant son’s eyes, James can say out loud that there’s only one thing he loves … and it’s not the boy.
As the plot plods on James becomes increasingly reckless, eventually leading Eldridge and Sanborn on a night-time hunt for a single suspect through a dangerous urban neighborhood with about a million hiding places. James is beyond audacious now, he’s foolhardy and dangerous and this thoughtless venture results in the near-kidnapping of one of his own men who ends up severely wounded – and this wounded man speaks for all of us when he says, “We didn’t have to go out looking for trouble to get you your adrenaline fix, YOU FUCK!”
But because James has no character arc, he learns nothing from this tragic outing. He’s a slave to this drug … to war, an unprofessional loose cannon who can’t love his son, can’t function in the real world and is on a trajectory to either kill himself, or worse, someone else. Like any junkie, he’s capable of humanity and leadership, he’s no coward and he knows his job, but he’s a victim to this thing and when we leave him we know it can’t end pretty.
It’s too bad the Iraqi people aren’t a protected class among Leftists. Of course, Leftists spent years lobbying in every imaginable way to abandon 25 million of them to death squads and terrorists, so why should it come as a surprise that Michael Bay’s satire of rap culture earns some outrage but “Hurt Locker” gets a pass.
The women are portrayed as either cannon fodder or screaming like savages, and other than a short, strange encounter with a man who wonders if James is CIA, the men are alternately terrorists, a menacing presence, victims, the butt of jokes or utterly clueless. The only Iraqi with a hint of personality is Beckam, but he’s never given a dimension beyond that of a hustler poisoned by our crass American consumer culture, “Wassup, my nigga…? Want the cool shit? I hook you up. Donkeykong? Gay sex…? Gangsta. Hey, man, fuck you!”
No, I’ve never been in the military, but when a film’s over I surely know what my opinion of the characters just portrayed up on that screen is, and I’ve seen this movie twice now trying to reconcile how everything listed above can add up to most every review labeling “The Hurt Locker” as “apolitical.”
Has Hollywood so worn us out that we’ve dumbed “apolitical” down to the point where this portrayal of our Iraqi allies, our troops and the officers who lead them qualifies? I’m not looking for John Wayne and I get battlefield cynicism. “Blackhawk Down” and “Brothers at War” do just fine by me. But when the men in the ranks display cold, casual racism, an American Colonel savagely orders that an Iraqi be left to bleed to death and a profoundly unprofessional protagonist, so demented by war he can no longer love his own son, repeatedly endangers himself and the men in his charge, I don’t see “nuance” or “depth” or “complicated” characters. What I see is politics of the worst kind.







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They just say it's apolitical because they know none of the leftist Iraq movies have found an audience. They think if they keep saying it's apolitical, we'll believe them and go see it. Just like they keep telling us O'Bama is "cool" and "doing a great job."
This is fascinating, especially for a film I've not seen. Currently, this film has a 95 on the Tomatometer, tracking 60 reviews. I've read extraordinary reviews of the film on the left (NYT – A.O. Scott) and on the right (HotAir, WSJ), yet the only two negative reviews I've read are here at BH.
This isn't a commentary about BH or about John or the other BH reviewer's pan, but it is rather odd. On the one hand, I thought John's review was thoughtful and backed up with reasoning as to why he didn't like it; on the other hand, I have dozens of reviews raving about the film, directed by Bigelow, a woman who's masterful at doing action films. Unlike 'The Stoning' the love of this film seems to be, overall, bipartisan and thus apolitical.
There seems to be a disconnect about this film – I look forward to seeing it so I can figure out what the disconnect is.
Thanks for the review. The movie is definitely a pass for me. I refuse to reward those in Hollywood who are cowards, stupid, or revel in their deluded thinking. Maybe that last conjunction should be 'and".
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To your point about people not wanting to see films about wars we are fighting, I certainly agree.
Seems like this movie came up for discussion a couple of weeks ago. Katherine Bigelow has done some things I respect, but I will not spend a plugged nickel on anti-military movies.
I saw the movie and thought it was extremely pro military, perhaps the most pro military movie of the last 10 years.
I just don't see what else you could want from this movie, even the parts you pointed out have nothing to do with any political bent, they're just the kind of thing that might happen in that kind of situation, nothing the American military do could be considered "evil" in this movie.
The least believable part might be the sniper shoot-out but then the guy was in the rangers so maybe he was trained to use a sniper rifle. I liked everything else and I was honestly relieved to finally watch a movie about Iraq that was nothing like Lions for Lambs or Redacted.
Saw the movie because someone else paid. Wouldn't see it. Where our soldiers are concerned Hollywood must learn to portray them as they had during WW2. To do what they are doing now is wrong and I refuse to contribute to it.
Over time I've come to understand that when people say "apolitical" they mean "true," as if to say, "if it is true, it cannot be politically partisan." Since this film is fiction, that statement can at best be applied to mean that the essence of the film might be true. As such, one can only find this film "apolitical" if you either have the detailed knowledge of life on the ground there (and thus can verify that the film is accurate) or if you share the film's general "sense of life." Most people would fall in the latter category.
Let us, though, assume the story is completely (and coincidentally) true, for argument's sake. Why tell it? I'm the last one to whitewash history, but I really wonder what the directors of movies like this hope to accomplish. Why glorify this story? Why tell this story to the world? Why are some folks, especially liberals, so fascinated by tragedy and pointlessness, and why are they so repulsed by heroism? Are struggle and success really that anathema to them? Does not anything inspire these people?
I think man "apolitical" war films do well with critics simply because most critics share the film's cynical sense of life and/or most critics simply don't care what the movie is actually about.
Some movies, like Saving Private Ryan, try to outfox the audience and be "pro-military but anti-war." Thanks again and again to John Nolte, for pointing out that such a position is untenable, as you cannot separate a man, his deeds, and his values.
The American people, on the other hand, actually care about their values, a fact manifested in how these movies have overwhelmingly and colossally bombed at the box office and The Dark Knight wiped the floor with them. Sadly, many people seem to have been swindled by "Private Ryan."
The most pro-military movie of the last ten years was "We Were Soldiers".
It might be because I have a nephew involved in IED cleanup that will make me skip this movie. He's no adrenalin junkie who can't love anything else but war. I think whoever wrote this script dug up the worst Vietnam stories about the troops and superimposed them to some degree onto this story rather than doing actual research. Think about it, would this movie be changed any if they set it in Vietnam?
An American Colonel coldly, viciously ordering his men to let a civilian/suspect bleed out to death…?
The guy was obviously off his rocker, a sadistic, scary, off-balance SOB… and an American Colonel.
How do you interpret that moment?
Very true about "We Were Soldiers"…and i was most gratified to see what is by all accounts the accuracy of "Soldiers", particularly that there are and always have been officers that lead from the front. Be it Gen. Maxwell Taylor jumping behind the lines at Normandy with his beloved 82nd Airborne or the tragedy of the death of Lt. Gen McNair killed by errant U.S. bombs during the recapture of France later that summer, the fact that a Lt. Col. would be first to set foot in a fire zone shouldn't be a surprise. If you watch most contemporary movies officers are "in the rear, with the gear" drinking hi-balls and smoking big cigars. Tell that to my "old man" who fueled his own airplane and pitched in to move bodies and/or ammo when the job needed to be done.
Very true about "We Were Soldiers"…and I was most gratified to see what is by all accounts the accuracy of "Soldiers", particularly that there are and always have been officers that lead from the front. Be it Gen. Maxwell Taylor jumping behind the lines at Normandy with his beloved 82nd Airborne or the tragedy of the death of Lt. Gen McNair killed by errant U.S. bombs during the recapture of France later that summer, the fact that a Lt. Col. would be first to set foot in a fire zone shouldn't be a surprise. If you watch most contemporary movies officers are "in the rear, with the gear" drinking hi-balls and smoking big cigars. Tell that to my "old man" who fueled his own airplane and pitched in to move bodies and/or ammo when the job needed to be done.
I have not seen THE HURT LOCKER, but if your review is accurate, take solace, it will bomb. If there's one thing that's been proven time and time agian, Americans don't like to see their soldiers run-down by Hollywood! Or anyone else for that matter! Since the founding of this country, American soldiers have been liberators. What's very, very, sad is– we haven't had a patriotic press/Hollywood since WWII. So in today's world, those brave men and women have to not only fight the enemy but our own press– and most, if not all the elected dems in Washington! Freedom is not free. Too many Americans don't have a clue about that. To all American soldiers:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE! GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES!
nice point about the double standard party-line Hollywood has taken lately, as if right off a "Code Pink" demontration sign. "Support Our Troops, Bring Them Home!" and other platitudes like that. By the way, where has Code Pink been lately? Why aren't the doves flocking around their socialist leader demanding a total withdrawl from Afganistan and Iraq? Are they perhaps hypocrites that couldn't care less about our troops and more about their radical leftist agenda?
People like your nephew have balls like basketballs and probably don't care what some inane Hollywood type thinks about him. He just does his job and hopes to go home when it's time. A vast majority of troops I have spoken to lately feel that way. They volunteered, they signed up, and KNEW that they were going to Iraq. It's the cowards in Hollywood that just can't seem to wrap their collective heads around the fact that there are Patriots that are intelligent and motivated and would volunteer to do the jobs they do. We should applaude them for doing the job in Iraq and Afganistan so that we aren't fighting this fight in Camden or Joplin or Phoenix. There are people out there that believe that if we just IGNORED the Middle East, it would GO AWAY, All would be well and nothing bad would EVER happen to the U.S. again. Fools, utter fools.
BTW, the cowardice of IED's illustrates what kind of enemy we are fighting. They wouldn't hesitate for a minute to expolde a dirty bomb in down town N.Y.C. or L.A. yet we have a FOOL of a POTUS that can't ssem to understand that defiling the Oval Office. Unbelieveable….
I am in the Naval Reserves (Seabees) and I have been to Iraq. If what Mr. Nolte says is true, than this is another Hollywood BS movie that is trying to make the current Iraq Veterans look like the sterotypical PTSD soldier from Vietnam. Again, I have not seen the film and I refuse to see it, but if what Mr. Nolte said about the scene with an insurgent bleeding out is true, that is complete BS. That would not have happened in real life with that Colonel keeping his rank. The last pro-military movie I have seen recently is "We Were Soldiers." And for the record, not all Rangers are trained snipers. Just because someone knows how to use a weapon, does not mean he knows how to use it well. And for the record, I would not mind going back over there, but not because I "love war" but because when I am over there I get a feeling I am doing something bigger than myself and helping people that have lived under the Iron Boot of dictatorship get back on their feet and enjoy something too many people in this great country take for granted.
Amen. I would not see and I won't even if someone pays for it.
"Why are some folks, especially liberals, so fascinated by tragedy and pointlessness, and why are they so repulsed by heroism?"
My guess would be because they are cowards, who are angered by actual bravery because it points up their own failings.
"Sadly, many people seem to have been swindled by "Private Ryan ".
The criminal acceptance, of this asinine, feel good mission, by the Tom Hanks character and his CO has always enraged me. All those lives risked simply so a General can do a "good deed"? The mission serves no military purpose – which is the only reason you should place men's lives a risk.
That box office number is completely meaningless; it made $145k off four screens. That's a per-screen average of around $36k, which is higher than even Transformers. Which is not to say this is going to make anywhere near as much money (and certainly it's only playing on cities in ELITIST CITIES etc.), but this movie just opened. Give it time; it could do quite well, though I doubt it will for a lot of reasons that have nothing to do with politics (no name actors etc.)
Mark Boal also worked on "In the Valley of Elah", but "The Hurt Locker" is supposed to be apolitical? Sure.
Thanks for going over there Scotty.
I'm not ready to see a fictional piece on OIF or OEF. However I'd love to see "Brothers at War" if it ever goes into wider release. By the way, there is a difference between ordinance and ordnance. EOD is Explosive Ordnance Disposal. It's a common error.
Thanks. I thought I was the only one that thought Private Ryan was terrible. I am an Army vet and I detested the movie.
Thank you. I thought I was the only one bothered by Saving Private Ryan.
Ed Morrissey, whose conservative credentials are unquestionable, wrote a good review of the film here: http://hotair.com/archives/2009/06/28/film-review...
Mr. Nolte, maybe you could have a debate with him about the merits of the film on his radio show? That could be fun.
I haven't seen the movie yet, but probably will.
I should add that I'm immediately skeptical of a movie that begins with a quote from Chris Hedges.
We need more reviewers like you, John.
Let's try it again. Apologies if this ends up a double post.
Ed Morrissey, whose conservative credentials are unquestioned, wrote a positive review here: http://hotair.com/archives/2009/06/28/film-review...
Mr. Nolte, maybe you could go on Ed's radio show and debate the merits of the film. Could be fun.
I should add that I'm immediately skeptical of any movie that opens with a quotation from Chris Hedges, of all people.
I find it amusing how people feel that they can rail on a movie while in the same breath proudly stating that they will never watch it. How can you seriously make a judgment about a specific movie you refuse to watch? It is very much possible to be anti-war and pro-military. It's about valuing the LIFE of your fellow countryman over the need to constantly assert dominance or use the military as a proxy for your nationalistic ego.
A film that does not glorify war is not necessarily decrying the soldiers fighting it. The empty platitudes of thanking soldiers for their service and sacrifice is laughable when you gladly send them off to fight before exhausting all other (yes, diplomatic) avenues. And please don't bring WWII into this, as chickenhawks frequently do in these types of discussions. (Funny how they don't bring up Vietnam). WWII was obviously a war fought against enemies who had the will and capability to serve as real threats to American sovereignty. Japan and Germany had already realistically set things in motion to do so by the time the US entered.
I'm referring squarely to the current Iraq war when I mention fighting unnecessary wars that needlessly put American boys and girls in danger, and that has killed 4321 of them. We all know that none of you cared about the Iraqi civilians' plight on September 10, 2001; so please spare me your hand wringing about their well-being under his rule. Plenty of people all over the world live and have lived under the terror of despots. Such a coincidence that we chose to topple the one sitting on millions of barrels of oil… And then gave contracts to private companies to do the work that was traditionally done by soldiers. Just one profitable coincidence after another!
It's very easy to see a movie or different opinion as trying to destroy you and yours when you view everything through a hostile lens. "Liberals" are not "repulsed" by heroism. Do people seriously think that? Do "Conservatives" truly believe that "Liberals" are trying to bring down the very country that they live in? Really?
The reason Iraq movies do poorly has nothing to do with political agendas. The war has been going on for six years now. People are weary of it. They won't pay $10+ to view something that they shun when watching the news. There has been no net gain for this country as a whole from this war. We are no safer from Saddam's nonexistent WMDs than we were March 2003. That's why people don't want to watch movies and television shows about it. We're embarrassed and ashamed of what was done to our soldiers and health of our country, in vain, in our name. The war's been an abject failure in light of it casus belli and we all know it. -Anything else is unfortunately pure, unadulterated spin. Some don't want to be reminded of this.
I'm sorry…your 1st 2 sentences kind of contradict each other. Did you see it or not? What did you think?
I may write inordinately long posts, but I have the decency to attempt to make them intelligible. You, sir, insult us with the transparency of your lies and owe us an apology for your effusion of quasi-intellectual vomitus all over BH. Kool-Aid coming back on ya?
For your intellectual betterment and everyone else's pleasure:
1. Your equation for balancing hatred of war and love of military relies on an assumption, a wrong one nonetheless, and lack of information.
2. If I told you that you were a wonderful person, but that your job was completely pointless and no one needs it, how would you feel? Bear in mind the logical connections amongst a man, his work, his values, his self-esteem, and the infinite value of his finite life.
3. The Iraq war was and remains legal. The First Gulf War (August 1990 – February 1991) concluded only with a cease-fire, later repeatedly broken by Saddam Hussein, whose forces fired anti-aircraft rounds at American planes as late as August 2001.
4. We had already engaged in "Operation Desert Fox" in Iraq in 1998 under President Clinton, who also signed the "Iraq Liberation Act" stating, "It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."
5. What is a "hostile lens?" You just can't believe some people disagree with you, can you?
6. The Western Tradition in general (from the Greeks to us), has an unfortunate tendency, especially in art, of taking self-criticism and reflection to absurdity, to the point of self-hatred. Some people, like myself, prefer art to be an affirmation and exaltation of values rather than a tragic train wreck.
7. Go away.
We all know that none of you cared about the Iraqi civilians' plight on September 10, 2001; so please spare me your hand wringing about their well-being under his rule.
This is why it's impossible to have an intelligent debate with a Liberal. You make one or two salient points, then go of on ridiculous rants that make you sound like a middle-school student posting while your parents aren't watching. For your information, there are a lot of people who cared very much about the plight of the Iraqi civilians. There are charity groups and advocate groups who've been trying to make a difference for years. When we pulled out of Iraq the first time, Hussein (not the one who got his house with convicted felon Antoin Rezko's help) slaughtered Kurdish people by the thousands, and there were plenty of people angry about it.
Unfortunately, you are too ideologically driven to seriously look at the issues. You just look for reasons to justify your hatred of people you don't like. Very sad.
Agreed. It's unfortunate that people from the Left don't understand the honorable soldiers like you who make the tough decisions….not because they are "adrenalin junkies," but because they feel a duty to make a difference in the world and to watch each other's backs.
Thank you for your service.
First off, a female director is simply incapable of understanding the material, particularly soldierly bonds, guys who tear up 50 years after buddies died in combat, it's completely alien to them. Bigelow being a woman can not picture herself as one of the characters, so naturally she has contempt for them, their situations, their personalities, their beliefs, and what they do.
What comes through, clearly, in every interview or statement made by combat veterans including the Iraq War, is the close ties that last forever, between comrades in units. Guys openly weep for lost comrades regardless if they died more than half a century ago or last year. Joseph Heller admitted that the Army Air brass he knew were nothing like the film or book — he put that in to get it sold. They instead were dedicated men who flew the missions with their men. Many of them died doing so. Much of that remains true to this day, as Michael Yon's dispatches show.
Bigelow is both a woman, and a creature of Hollywood, so remains incapable of even grasping the essential truth and drama of the Iraq War — the extremely close bonds between soldiers, and the huge restrictions in their ability to fight the war, imposed by political superiors to great frustration everywhere. Those who return home are neither crazed nor wounded, but cynical about the politicians who refused to let them fight with all their might.
Nor is Bigelow even a good action director. Michael Mann stands head and shoulders above her, with "Heat" and "Collateral" both masterpieces, and "Last of the Mohicans" amazingly good. John McTiernan may have his quirks, but Die Hard and Thirteenth Warrior were both outstanding. Both directors have a mastery over male characters and their motivations in extreme danger, that Bigelow simply cannot understand. I wouldn't want them directing a Jane Austen derived movie (Bigelow clearly understands female characters and is often quite insightful there).
I wrote this in response to the other review, but I felt I needed to chime in because this movie was DEFINITELY not pro military.
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I saw the movie last night, with great anticipation, after seeing the reviews and reading Ed Morrissey’s Hot Air tip. As a veteran from Iraq, from the period the story took place, the movie was a horrible disappointment, but completely understandable why it will be HUGE in the box office. And unlike what others have said how the movie is apolitical, when the Colonel (which Marlow just wrote about) in letting an insurgent unnecessarily die for what seems to be no reason other than the thirst for blood, and later on a psychiatrist whose therapy includes telling a soldier “War can be fun”, it was ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. As a veteran, I could nitpick any military movie, non matter how great it is, to make it unwatchable, so I go in with a certain attitude knowing that mistakes will be made, in order to provide a more exciting narrative and story. But when things happen that are so absurd (leaving the wire alone and coming back with no repercussions, patrolling streets LITERALLY alone, entering situation that NO soldier would ever find themselves in) it’s extremely hard to like this movie.
What you watch isn’t a movie about Iraq or the war (as others have already stated), it’s still an outsider’s imagination of what they THINK it’s like to be in war, which is, addicted to something; unnaturally desiring to be there; “war is a drug”.
At the end of the day, it’s extremely dissappointing because, the movie, at its premise could have been terrific. It could have made a great story about and EOD Tech, without being political, and mistakes that could easily been overlooked. Instead, what we got was a story about an EOD Tech who masquerades around as the Lone Ranger, with a thinly disguised “soldiers are addicted to war” and “officers are stupid” message.
My recommendation? Go see Taking Chance and Brothers at War again and let AO Scott and the New York Times think they’ve found their Iraq movie that they can push onto America.
Your worldview is laughably wrong. WWII was a charnel house because reasonable, sensible steps to pre-empt Hitler at the Rhineland (1934) or Czechoslovakia (1938) were not taken. Making the whole thing a monstrosity. Similarly, failure of the League of Nations to take action against Japan in 1932 wrt Manchuria, left it to run riot in Asia and among other things, turn Manila into a place worse than Warsaw during both the Ghetto and later uprising.
The Liberal worldview holds that sweetness, light, unicorns, and rainbows are sufficient to ward off evil men, that then need not be confronted, until the very last minute when disaster looms. The case for Pre-emptive war is strong: WWII was the result of not doing it.
The Iraq War was and is an outstanding success. Even at five times the casualties (more than 50,000 were lost in Normandy during the months of June-July, and 12,000 lost in Okinawa during April-June 1945, by way of comparison). Because there is zero chance of Saddam nuking up in response to the Mullahs. Meanwhile we are right nearby, handy with an unsinkable aircraft carrier (Iraq) if we want to make points with Iran, particularly if they nuke up. Like say, hit their gasoline refinery (they only have one) if they threaten to nuke us. Just to make the point.
Heck if we abandon nukes as Obama wants, we must have even MORE pre-emptive wars, and a huge military to do it, just to deter attackers and enforce the Non Proliferation Treaty. Like taking out nuke proliferator Lil Kim and Iran and Pakistan for starters.
It's a bad, mad, dangerous world. Nukes equalize everything, allowing Pakistan the same destructive power as possessed by ALL our conventional weapons combined. Pakistan which can't govern it's own territory, is beset by Jihadis, and has raw sewage floating past the Presidential Palace during rainy season. In such a world, peopled with actual, real and bad, dangerous human beings, not cardboard cutouts, war is needed, required, eternal, and absolutely required to preserve the safety of an America that never could (War of 1812, DC burned to the ground including the White House) rely on the ocean to protect it.
And most of all, a pre-emptive War (if nothing else instilling the fear of the United States) is needed. Particularly if you hate big wars. Lots of little ones to keep the bad guys heads down, is far far preferable to letting them grow into dangerous monsters, ala Tojo.
Your guy's unicorns exist only on Black Velvet paintings hanging in Liberals dens. Sorry to say.
Well put. Transformers is on over 4000 screens, and even Wolverine's still on over 300. Also, neither Hurt Locker or The Stoning of Soraya M. are conducive to family or holiday viewing, and clearly all anyone wants to see is robots fighting anyway. (Box Office Guru shows them having earned roughly the same amount AtheistCon cites, but Soraya is playing in a whopping 27 theaters as opposed to Hurt's 4, so Hurt's being seen by more people. I suspect they're canceling each other out: two grim middle-east dramas within weeks may be confusing some people, and is probably one more than people are willing to see) These are graphic films with tough subjects, and it was always going to be a struggle to get people in to see them, hence the relatively tiny releases.
Damn, if I hear liberals make that same pathetic excuse for the flops of their anti-war films – 'people don't want to watch that filmbecause they already see it on television', I will barf. People don't want to watch anti-military, anti-war films because the people don't agree with Hollywood's hatred of our soldiers, our military, etc. Damn, Hollywood is as clueless as Pelosi.
Nick & Des, i was composing a retort to Guest while reading his post, but you two took the word right out of my mouth.
An obvious point Guest, I doubt you would find a single solitary member of the Armed Forces who was not "anti-war" and "pro-military" Like President Firefly you just like setting up straw men. And if you had a grasp of the larger global circumstances at the time, you would not be so qucik to disparage what the Viet Nam war really entailed. I could explain it to you, but I cannot understand it for you.
And can we get over this condescension that conservatives and repubs have been dishing for the past seven years about how "dangerous" the world is and how only THEY know how to handle it and stand up to evil? Let's look at the facts, shall we? Here is a just a partial list of the despots and evildoers that your hero for freedom, George W. Bush COMPLETELY cowered to, throughout his eight years of "leadership:"
Musharref, Pakistan (his third in command is found to have been involved in a nuclear distribution network to other oppressive regimes and Bush doesn't even have the balls to demand that we question him???)
Saud family (remember W holding hands with the prince to beg for the price of oil to go down?)
Vladimir Putin (remember what W saw when he gazed in his eyes?)
China's regime (remember that embarassing hostage incident in spring of 2001?)
"We're embarrassed and ashamed of what was done to our soldiers and health of our country, in vain, in our name."
Speak for yourself. If you are going to post anonymously on the Internet, you can't use the term "we".
What I find fascinating is the fact that all these movies, regardless of whether or not left-wingers think they are "political", are complete and utter box office poison. According to RottenTomatoes, this movie pulled less than $150K. That's just embarrassing.
Perhaps people don't want to see a movie about wars we are currently fighting? Perhaps people don't like seeing the troops exploited by military-hating Hollywood liberals?
"It is very much possible to be anti-war and pro-military."
That's like saying you're anti-prison but pro-police. The military exists to fight wars, so if you're anti-war, you are anti-military.
To one and all who have served, and are serving in the military, thank you and God bless you for your self-less act in volunteering to protect my family and our country. To the family members who have a loved one overseas, thank you for being strong and supportive and may God also bless you!
Boal was on with Ed Morrissey today. It was a good interview, and I was intrigued by the movie. I had also seen Katherine Bigelow on Fox one morning discussing the movie. But after reading this review, and in particular the military members insights; thanks I will pass on this one.
I am very disappointed because I long for multiple movies to be made about our military accomplishments in both Iraq and Afghanistan. So many lives have been changed by our military, in both countries, and for the better.
Why is it so hard for Hollywood to honor the tons and tons of good our military does instead of creating ugly things out of thin air? How utterly despicable to portray our military as men who would allow such actions as "bleeding out" to occur!
We are fighting a large battle in Afghanistan right now. The whole "whiskey, tango foxtrot" comments from Jones, and all that followed, combined with this movie makes me want to punch someone out. Do these movie makers have any shame? Do they ever stop to think who they might be hurting when they put out crap like this? God forbid Al-Jazeera plays scenes from this movie!
This adrenaline junky take is one I do not get.
I saw this movie at the Dallas AFI film fest. It's a good movie and it doesn't make a statement about the war it makes a statement about people that are addicted to the "high" of war, etc. This review article is just, well, stupid. Go see it and see what you think. I liked it and I would see it again.
Perhaps it's negative, or what are presumed to be negative movies about wars that are still being conducted that KILLS them at the box office. It seems that Hollywood and the general public have forgotten who the "BAD GUY" is in this conflict. It's the criminal terrorists wearing turbins and killing in the name of Allah for those of you that have forgotten. I don't care what we route we took to finally get in to armed conflict with them, ever since 1979 it has been inevitable. Hollywood's insistance in making the "BAD GUY" the U.S. serviceman and woman just doesn't seem to resonate with the viewing audience, does it?
We'll take your word for it, but being the son of an Air Force officer and pilot that logged hundreds of combat missions in Vietnam I resent the caricature of the "stupid officer" that MASH and others TV shows and movies have cultivated over the years. Advancing in the military to higher command takes intelligence and communication skills. Those that may have "gone around the bend" are quicky ferreted out and sent out to pasture. Getting past Lt. Col. is extremely difficult.
Yes, I noticed that. But John did not make up the examples in the above review. For me, the disconnect is over.
When it comes to movies, many conservative pundits do not have trained bias detectors. They probably do not want to. Movies are such a big part of our lives and they want to be able to continue enjoy movies.
"The war has been going on for six years now."
The war has been going on for 18 years. Remember the unfinished Gulf war, the discovery and dismantling of the existing nuclear program, no fly zones, the firing at our aircraft, the expulsion of the inspectors, the 1998 Desert Fox bombing campaign? No?
People are weary of it
What, weary of watching it on the news?
It´s not even on the news since our soldiers – the ones you pretend to care about – turned the situation around. You don´t respect them enough to grant them their stunning achievement.
(Funny how they don't bring up Vietnam).
Hey, I am HAPPY bring up Vietnam. After I´m done, you won´t be.
Yes. Have you read the recent book on Curtis Le May? Supports your argument very well.
I have to say, Bigelow is an outstanding director when it comes to the kinetics, the editing and camerawork, the aggression. Very good at atmosphere, too. Strange Days or Point Break were really well made. Of all female directors, I would have expected her to get male characters and motivations. As it is, you are probably right, though I´m still not convinced that being a woman is a bigger hindrance than being a creature of Hollywood. (Brian De Palma is male, no?)
We all know that none of you cared about the Iraqi civilians' plight on September 10, 2001; so please spare me your hand wringing about their well-being under his rule.
This is why it's impossible to have an intelligent debate with a Liberal. You make one or two salient points, then go of on ridiculous rants that make you sound like a middle-school student posting while your parents aren't watching. For your information, there are a lot of people who cared very much about the plight of the Iraqi civilians. There are charity groups and advocate groups who've been trying to make a difference for years. When we pulled out of Iraq the first time, Hussein (not the one who got his house with convicted felon Antoin Rezko's help) slaughtered Kurdish people by the tens of thousands, and there were plenty of people angry about it.
Unfortunately, you are too ideologically driven to seriously look at the issues. You just look for reasons to justify your hatred of people you don't like. Very sad.
Ah, the Left once again believing that all of our Armed Forces can't differentiate facial features and body stature of one Middle Easterner from another. Not every adult male living in Iraq…is Iraqi; there are Iranians, Jordanians, Saudis, et al.
As if our Marines on patrol are that hick and trailer trash….!
Ah, but the Left: you're the same, no matter which actor or actress you are. Same tired crap, same exhausted anti-American, pro-Communist garbage you spew. YOU all look alike to me!
Here is what Bush never did: he did not take a neutral position between America and her enemies. When we were attacked again, he did not run away from his responsibilites. He did not apologize for his country in order to aggrandize himself. In other words, he had enough humility to know what his job was.
Part 1
“It is very much possible to be anti-war and pro-military.”
It depends on what you mean by the terms. If you mean that war in general and by its very nature is painful, then I would agree. If you mean that war in general and by its very nature is ALWAYS wrong, in every circumstance, then I disagree. War is ugly, but sometimes necessary. I'm guessing you live in that fantasy world where all you have to do is talk nicely to people and they will all agree to play nice? How about living in the real world – you know, the one where the very real and wicked people in the world laugh in the face of attitudes like that?
“It's about valuing the LIFE of your fellow countryman over the need to constantly assert dominance or use the military as a proxy for your nationalistic ego.”
That made me laugh! Now I see where you’re coming from. Good thing this is not what is happening in Iraq. But let me guess? You think the Iraq War was just made up as an excuse to go over there and take oil and rule the world! Am I close?
Part 2
”I'm referring squarely to the current Iraq war when I mention fighting unnecessary wars that needlessly put American boys and girls in danger, and that has killed 4321 of them.”
Unnecessary war? Why is it unnecessary? They are not “boys and girls”. They are MEN and WOMEN who voluntarily went over there to protect and serve their country. How dare you condescend to them in that way?
I am done reading your ridiculous comment. Go elsewhere with your nonsense. You sound like you're about 14 years old. (Apologies to any 14 year olds reading this site.) Oh, and by the way, we are not ashamed and embarrassed about our soldiers. We are PROUD of their work. But I bet you can't even IMAGINE such a thing, right? And yet you'll claim to be pro-military? After all the insulting things you've said here? Get lost.
Let me first establish my bonafides: I am an Army officer currently deployed to Iraq. One not so well kept secret about Iraq is that we get the "Haji" copies of movies as soon as they're shown in theaters (or possibly even sooner if a pirate gets a hold of a screener). "Hurt Locker" has been available here for at least 4 months, and in that time it has come to epitomize the garbage coming out of Hollywood about Iraq. This movie was the butt of every joke in our company for a week. The way EOD (and soldiers in general) is portrayed in this film is absurd. We called the team in the movie the EOD/Special Forces/Delta Force/Scout Sniper/ChuckNorris/Superbadasses because they might as well have been. To me, this was nothing more than a military veneer wrapped around a political message because the events in the movie bear no relation WHATSOEVER to how we operate over here. Watch it for a laugh if you will, but do us in the military a favor and place it in the realm of Schwarzenegger fiction where it belongs.
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Your drivel is not welcome here. One does not "value the life of an American Soldier" as you suggest by making movies showing them as unprofessional thugs which they are not.
Please do not suggest to me the Iraq war was unneccessary. That statement is probably the most monumentaly ignorant thing I have ever heard. George Bush did not start the second Iraq war from some blank slate for no reason at all. The plans used by W were laid out by the Clinton administration, Prior to this Ground War we were bombing Iraq on at times a daily basis for the 12 years of the no fly zones because we left Sadaam in power. The WMD line is also laughable. One he did have Saren gas. We found it in every 500th shell. Second your evidence they were not looking for yelow cake comes from a report by no name mid level diplomatic bureaucrat who outed his own wife as a CIA agent just to get publicity
Amused on behalf of the idiots who made this craptacular pile of smoking poo I apologize. I know Bigelow and her self centered narcissistic writer buddys won't so I will do it for them.
Morse should be ashamed. I liked him in John Adams. How dare he portray a Colonel in the US Army in the way he did. HOW DARE HE! Has he ever met a senior military officer? LIke to ask him that question. Like to then introduce him to a few and then say this is who they really are. I am so utterly disgusted by this I can't describe it.
Then we have the guy who wrote the script. How can you go, be embeded with a unit for an amount of time and then come up with this what amounts to a hatefilled diatribe? HOW?
Thank you for your post NickV3
I was not aware of Oeration Desert Fox. Could you please expound on that.
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Wasn't the movie the Three Kings based on the premise that we were abandoning the Iraqi people by leaving and not supporting the insurgency against Sadaam after GW1? I remember being lectured by liberals on the "stability" of the region when I questioned why we did not finis the job?
Were not conservatives the ones that were angry about the UN directing our soldiers into harm's way in "police" actions around the globe while not letting them take the steps to truly make any changes in the situation. LEt's take over Somolia but let's not oust the warlords and develop a democracy, let's hand out food un til Al Queda finds a way to embaress our soldiers? Kosovo, Bosnia, etc.?
…so remains incapable of even grasping the essential truth and drama of the Iraq War — the extremely close bonds between soldiers…
Black Hawk Down got this right when one of the soldiers explained, "It's about the guy next to you."
From wiki
"On 3 November 2007, only days before a panel of the Supreme Court of Pakistan was to decide again on a new petition challenging the validity of his re-election as president in the October 2007 elections, he, as Chief of Army Staff and President of Pakistan declared emergency as per Article 232 of the constitution. The emergency lasted from 3 November 2007 until 15 December 2007."
"On 24 November 2007, the Pakistan Election Commission confirmed his re-election as President.[8]. On 28 November 2007, Musharraf relinquished as Chief of Armed Staff, adhering to 24th November verdict of the Supreme Court."
"On 18 August 2008, Pervez Musharraf resigned from the post of President under impeachment pressure from the coalition government. Consequently, his website was removed since he was no longer President. He was succeeded on 6 September 2008 by Asif Ali Zardari, duly elected as Pakistan's 11th President since 1956."
Hey LIBBILOO
Looks like another middle eastern dictatorship moved from a dictatorship to a democracy under the the "Policies" of George W Bush one of Amercia's greatest President's from the aspect of foreign relations.
Say what spin you like. The fact is that W is to date the only PResident to engage in foreign policy in the middle east to support there being democraticly elected governments there and to have acheived it.
WHAT EXACTLY IS IT ABOUT MURDEROUS DICTATORSHIP"S YOU LIBERALS ADMIRE SO MUCH THAT YOU LECTURE US TO SUPPORT THEM.
I yelled that because it requires yelling! Don't "meddle" in Iran my @$$
I saw this movie and it seemed fine to me, it was entertaining and it wasn't any insult to the troops or to Iraqis. I think to really find out what one will think about the movie though one has to actually see it (which I recommend) instead of just taking one single reviewers word for it. This is nothing like those other retarded anti war movies recently, not even In the Valley of Elah (the more retarded anti war parts of that were shoehorned in by that douchebag Paul Haggis anyway). The Hurt Locker is pretty much like Generation Kill, but less politically influenced. Again though, you can't really hate the movie without having seen it (or pretending to see it which is probably the case of some of the other people in the comments). Hating this movie because one reviewer said it makes the troops look bad is completely identical to hating America because Michael Moore says we have too many guns.
"Bigelow is both a woman, and a creature of Hollywood, so remains incapable of even grasping the essential truth and drama of the Iraq War"
Wow.
If I were promoting this movie, I'd have that quote running at the top of every advertisement (attributed to "anonymous" as I'm assuming your name is NOT "whiskey,") the day it opened. You'd get a boxoffice uptick based on people seeing just to SPITE the jerk who said that
"apolitical" is a foolish term – politics are a matter of perspective, and since no one is truly 100% neutral (even a nearly-comatose body knows comfort from discomfort) EVERYTHING is political to somebody, and thus EVERYTHING is political, period. This includes documentary photographs or spoken facts – a man standing in front of a row of tanks is as "political" as one's perspective renders the imagery to be.
When "liberals" or "conservatives" say a movie is apolitical, what they usually mean is that they see it's images or statements as facts and thus not 'tilted' one way or the other. The makers of Hurt Locker likely believe that "Iraq was a bad idea" and "Iraq is bad for our soldiers' psyches" to be absolute facts. I would agree with them, but "facts" are not necessarily apolitical, particularly here where ANY negative image of Iraq will be judged as politically-"left" by "conservatives" because it might make the public less inclined to support it.
"We Were Soldiers" with Mel Gibson is the best war film I've seen in the last 10 years — it was by no means anti-U.S. or anti-military. In fact, it celebrated the soldiers sacrifice and bravery.
Another problem is Hollywood actors/writers/director and film critics usually run in circles surrounded only by people who think exactly as they do. They never meet people or hear the opinions of us "regular folks" who would strongly debate them and disagree with them. Their sources for information are overwhelmingly left-wing. I'd like to tie a group of Hollywood liberals to a chair sometime and force them to listen to a few hours of The Savage Nation.
LolaLola makes an excellent point, we often decry the generic “Hollywood” for making movies portraying our military members as mentally deranged criminals. Why do actors get a free pass? Mr. Morse knew he was playing the role of an insane Officer. Could you listen to him describe his character and conclude otherwise? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2TdpSMe0Qs
What is his and other actors responsibility for perpetrating this disparaging myth? They sign on to the project, they make the talk show circuit promoting their movies and the myth. What if we let individual actors know of our displeasure for their portals of our military as criminals or being mentally disturbed? What would a few “David Morse our Soldiers are Heroic not Psychotic” signs at his events do for his brand? Would it give other actors pause before accepting such roles? Would it?
I agree with El_Gordo. It is no surprise that the blatant contempt for our military goes unrecognized, even among many conservatives. I think it goes beyond simple political allegiances and ideological self definitions to a sort of class bias. The people who normally write reviews and make movies, whether they describe themselves as conservatives or liberals, simply have no conception of what people in the military are like. They view being a soldier itself as some sort of evidence of being psychologically damaged. They cannot imagine a person as intelligent or as decent as themselves ever really being a soldier. And so when they see soldiers portrayed as psychotics and sociopaths they don't recognize it as being so much political as simply being honest.
It is disturbing that such a political movie can be perceived by so many reasonable people as being above politics. You don't have to label your positions Republican or Democrat, or make direct statements about policy positions, to make a political movie. In fact, it's much more effective if you don't.
The key thing in politics is to change the underlying belief systems that drive political loyalties and shape our preferences for public policies. The key elements of the dominant belief system among our intellectuals is that we are the ultimate cause of our enemies' hatred for us and that those who believe we must use military force to confront those enemies are are driven by deep character flaws or ignorance. By focusing on a small number of people in which these causal processes are played out, the filmmaker can produce effective political propaganda without explicitly addressing policy issues. The fact that the action in the movie seems to be driven purely by the decisions of individual characters allows the filmmaker to make the audience experience in a visceral way events that confirm the filmmaker's political belief system.
And because the filmmaker and the writer operate in the social milieu where these beliefs are ubiquitous they don't even recognize themselves as producing political propaganda. And the audience, so used to seeing our conflicts and combatants portrayed in ways dictated by that belief system, don't even notice the propaganda.
These anti Iraq movies have consistently bombed (pun intended) at the box office.
I bet if they made a pro-US, pro-Iraq and pro-Democracy one it would do awesome at the box office.
It's a movie _business_. As the old song goes… when will they ever learn, indeed?
Please don't tell me Dale Dye was the technical advisor on this film!
Figures. Another technical delight that can't keep blatant political blather out of the way. Thanks for the heads up. I stopped going to movies anyway. I've lost hope in the industry to the point that I assume every film made is just one of the ones that Sean Penn would call "his kind of film."
I can't get past hypocrisies. Keep smoking Sean. Please.
Well, of course Bush was much more diplomatic and circumspect than the liberal caricature you were fed. Surely YOU didn´t advocate war with China?
Musharraf was as good as we could get and his successors aren´t better. Pakistan is a difficult situation where we have almost no leverage. It has not improved since. But the Bush administration did stop the dealings of the A. Q. Khan network, as you surely remember. He also targeted and killed terrorists inside Pakistan.
Bush also scared Gaddafi out of his WMD program.
Vladimir Putin – Bush said nice things about him, but when his hostile stance became obvious, we did not indulge him. See: missile defence, see: Iran policy, see: Nato expansion, see: support for the orange Revolution. There is only so much you can do against a nuclear and regional power.
The Saudis – they were against the Iraq war. Like you, I suppose. Bush did not indulge them either where our interests were at stake. Cheap oil IS in our interests. By the way, Republicans are FOR domestic oil production and nuclear energy, Democrats are against it. What do you say about that?
The reason why the movie has only pulled in 150K is because it's in a handful of theatres, unlike the blockbusters that open in as many as 4500. Jeremy Renner is unbelievable in this movie, and David Morse keeps churning out one excellent supporting performance after another. I would rather be rankled by a little politics in a film which I can discard and roll my eyes over because I'm a rational human being, than seeing the end credits of The Hangover, which crossed the lines of decency and descended into porn, and for which the MPAA ratings board should be disbanded immediately.
This is beautiful, thank you.
Sending lots of hugs, kisses and well-wishes to America's shining stars,
Your quiet determination to move forward towards peace despite obnoxious noise of defeat is an inspiration to us all!
With love from your biggest fan-
Amused, I bet you get this all the time–at least, I HOPE you do–but let me say it anyway: Thank you, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. Please let our folks over there know that we at home love them, pray for them and want to see them come home safe and victorious. You have our respect, never doubt it.
Thanks Amused! I spent 3 years in Kuwait in support of OIF. Hope to go back soon. Stay safe!
You're wrong – that's just your knee jerk response to a remark that's unequivocally true. That's the same conclusion my buddies in the Armed Forces and I reached after watching it.
Well that's the crux of the whole problem isn't it? Hollywood and the media continue to tell us they are apolitical, some of them even believe that. When in fact they are clearly liberal in their beliefs
Thanks to you both for your thoughts on my post. I am by no means an expert, but I'll add what I can which is that the operation was a series of air strikes over the course of less than a week, in December of 1998. It's goal was to "degrade" Saddam Hussein's means to produce and use weapons of mass destruction.
There are a few thorough articles on the "external links" section of the wikipedia article, "Bombing of Iraq (December 1998)." Hope you find them useful!
No they are hippiecrits
The are hippies who are critical. Completely different from a hypocrit. At least in what passes for grey matter above their breathing orifice.
Perhaps its the idiocy of portraying professional soldiers, some of whom have seen and done things the vast majority of us couldn't hold our water through, losing it over what would be in their world trivial things?
I don't know about that. In some places 90 minutes of president Obama sitting on the can reading the newspaper would have them swooning in the isles. That does not mean however the rest of us would care to watch and drone on about his wiping technique at the water cooler the next day.
Well spoken sir. Another film about what someone imagined they saw in a photograph without having ever left the impression of their boot in country.
Well spoken sir. Another film about what someone imagined they saw in a photograph without having ever left the impression of their boot in country.
Ah but Jhoh there's the rub. Spend a dime to see this thing, come out feeling like someone owes you 90 minutes of your life back and who is going to make good on the refund? I for one don't feel like I owe my wife the perspective gained at feeling her pain during a bikini wax by getting one myself.
I'm not sure what Nolte wants to see in an Iraq war movie. Something the exact polar opposite of the leftist propaganda garbage that's come out of Hollywood to date? (If he wants that, he should watch Fox News weekend specials rather than waste time and money in a movie theater.) How about a compelling portrayal of the good, the bad and the ugly, or is that too difficult for mindless partisans on either side to swallow? We pro-military conservatives are no better than the idiots on the left if we immediately bristle at the slightest suggestion that our troops and the Iraqi people aren't beyond reproach. I'm still excited to see it when it comes out in more cities next weekend.
And until I see it, I'll have to take Bigelow at her word that it's "apolitical".
I'm also an Army officer, and an EOD tech. The movie did portray them as reckless, but I know guys who run incidents like that. It's dangerous and they get other people hurt, but it does happen. Hell, we just had two guys from my battalion hurt very badly from being reckless. It is getting to be less common as we crack down on safety violations but it still exists.
Instead of seeing this movie; rent: The Best Years of Our Lives 1946, 12 O'Clock High, and Strategic Air Command – though today modern military men and women use different jargon these movies represent the 98% of the US military in perpetuity – they are reluctant hero's who want to protect this nation and defend those they serve with.
[...] John Nolte says the plot “slowly deflates” and you realize halfway in that the movie is basically just a series of episodes. I’d add that it’s kind of the same episode again and again. Nolte also thinks the film reflects badly on our troops and even worse on the Iraqi people. [...]
John,
Thank you for your review. One question. In the opening paragraph you said "Katherine Bigelow’s direction of “The Hurt Locker” is masterful and might very well place her back where she belongs, at the top of anyone’s list looking for a top-shelf action director." And then went on to give me every reason to believe she is everything but masterful and top-shelf. What gives. How was she masterful in light of your criticism?
John,
Thank you for your review. One question. In the opening paragraph you said "Katherine Bigelow’s direction of “The Hurt Locker” is masterful and might very well place her back where she belongs, at the top of anyone’s list looking for a top-shelf action director." And then went on to give me every reason to believe she is everything but masterful and top-shelf. What gives? How was she masterful in light of your criticism?
I completely disagree with John Nolte's review regarding the political perspective of "The Hurt Locker." I saw this yesterday (bootleg version that's widely available on the internet) with three men from my bible study. We all loved it. According to my "focus group" of a Giuliani voting moderate, a conservative Republican, and a Constitutionalists Party voter, they all loved the movie and thought it was raw, unbiased, bare bones portrayal of war. In fact it made them (and me) appreciate the sacrifices these men make and hard decisions wondering who is friendly or foe. Also, I got a Marine buddy in Iraq and they cuss and act like the guys in this movie. Men in my generation act "similar" to these guys. And this film is a technical masterpiece.
Sorry John, wrong about the message of this one.
I completely agree with you Jso. "The Hurt Locker" was a great war movie.
[...] Hurt Locker in today’s Washington Examiner. I’ve read a couple reviews of the movie (most notably here) that have lambasted it for being yet another left-wing diatribe about the evil warmongers that [...]
Great movie. Best I've seen in a long time. Thought it made the troops look great too.
Not sure what everyone is so upset about.
You can rationalize a political statement from anything. Nothing is ever apolitical. No movie can be that. But I think we understand what they mean when people say apolitical. But apparently you don't. Are there things in the movie that could be taken as political statements, sure. But maybe they are just plot in the story.
Beckham's story is the most compelling and ends up being pivotal to the movie. If anyone hasn't seen it, there are spoilers to come.
When James finds out that Beckham is dead, he is so affected because he feels the base, the EOD, has been compromised. The one place where he feels he has control has been infiltrated. And when he goes into the house and finds the guy who thinks he is CIA, he has a moment of insight that boils down to, "I'm not a detective, I don't know what I'm doing, I have no control over my vengeful impulses." I've heard this complaint a lot, that the ending scenes with Beckham are unnecessary when in fact they are pivotal.
"There's no over-arching story." …?….
Really?
Well yes, there is no master terrorist that James and the EOD team have to track down and bring in. But then again, if there was that story line in the film it would weaken it. Do we really want a master bomber and some concocted story that is unrealistic and fake. I would rather see the EOD do what they do best. And there is an over-arching story. The whole film is connected by the set pieces and each discovers a psychological and moral complication of war and being an american soldier. It is also connected by the relationship developments of James, Sanborn, and Eldridge. As well as James personal journey. Not every soldier in the movies has to be the heroic, brave, American. That cliche got old a long time ago. And I have heard that people think that James, Sanborn, and Eldridge are cliches but each has a third dimension which basically turns those cliches on their head.
I also am shocked just as someone else was, that basically the only negative reviews of the film have come from BH.
But please no one be fooled. If you watch a movie for political purposes you have a problem but if you want to watch it for that them fine, be my guest, you may not like this movie. But if you want to see a top notch masterpiece of an action movie. Then the Hurt Locker is your movie.
Check out my review: http://www.wildclementines.com/?p=2661
The EOD Technical advisor for the film (James Clifford) should have his "Crab" pulled and never again be allowed to claim the tittle of EOD Technician for being a part of this piece of garbage called "The Hurt locker".
I know there is a always a gap between hollywood and reality but this movie is an insult to Bomb Techs and military personnel everywhere. As an active duty EOD"Tech" I can tell you that every Tech who has seen the movie is completely disgusted. There may have been one or two moments in the whole movie that were plausible. This is just another example of hollywood D-bags using a film to give their take on the US military and war in general. If you have never been in the military, let alone combat, there is no way you can understand the way people act, react and interact during combat situations so you certainly won't be able to convey these things in your silly little film. I have to agree with a previous poster that Blackhawk down was one of the few war films that did a good job of portraying men in combat in a realistic light
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