Celebrity Enforcer E! Takes Their Shot at Those Who ‘Love Them Some Jesus’
by John NolteHollywood’s neo-blacklist against mainstream conservative values and those who believe in them isn’t an actual list. It’s worse. It’s nothing tangible you can point to, but rather a bullying peer pressure system like a high school in a John Hughes film. And it works something like this…
The big stars and directors are the cool kids – the jocks – the preppies – James Spader in “Pretty in Pink.” They own the school, strut the halls and decide who’s in and who’s out based on one’s ability and willingness to conform into one of them.
The Motion Picture Academy is the Student Council packed with James Spaders who game the system in order to keep the pecking order ordered and to their liking.
Variety and the Hollywood Reporter are the school paper. Both are staffed with wannabes and once-weres who protect the myth and clothe the emperor living for those moments when James Spader gives them a taste of the inside where they can bask in his glow.
This leaves us with the cheerleaders, the Mean Girls, the most openly cruel of the bunch — a catty, nasty gaggle of bitches unafraid to say what the others think and determined to enforce what defines a James Spader. In Hollywood the cheerleaders are the gossip rags; newspaper columns, entertainment websites and most certainly E!
James Spader loathes Miley Cyrus and the Jonas Brothers and Heidi Montag, but mostly Miley because she represents the worst kind of threat to his kingdom: She’s already popular and a big, talented star, but she doesn’t want to be like him and therefore must be taught a lesson. And so his minions have been loosed.
Just last month, the head cheerleader, the L.A. Times, went after Miley over “the Jesus thing,” and soon after one of the cool-kid leaders himself, Jamie Foxx, blew his stack with outrage over her innocence. Tuesday it was E!:
Indeed. Gone are the days when we had a lone Kirk Cameron here, a random Mel Gibson there. Now it seems like the whole Disney talent stable is flashing a giant collective promise ring in our faces, bathing us in the virgin-white dazzle of all that metal.
Miley and the Jonas Brothers of course publicly love themselves some Jesus. Heidi Montag, too. Miley even twitters about it. A lot. (Jesus is Miley’s Neosporin? Really?) …
And that’s the new trend of “oversharing” among celebs… At least they’re sparing us their bathroom habits-for now.
Those of you who buy into the idea that E! would like to be spared “oversharing among celebs” might want to change your middle name to “Duh.” If celebs didn’t overshare, E! wouldn’t exist. If there were laws about truth in advertising, E! would have to call themselves, “O! The Overshare Channel.”
E! also doesn’t have a problem with celebs who “love themselves some Jesus.” Sean P. Puff Diddy Daddy Combs is all about tweeting his love for Jesus – and from the looks of just the last few hours, does so a lot more than Miley. But E! is okay with that because Combs is one of them; a leftie fully engaged in the mission to spread Gomorrah throughout the land.
This isn’t about religion or celebrity oversharing, this is about the culture war – this is about a promise ring that “bath[es] us in the virgin-white dazzle of all that metal.” Because in celebrity-dom, that virgin-white dazzle is like throwing Holy Water on a Vampire.
Miley’s a target-rich environment for celebrity enforcers because she’s openly opposed to the spread of Gomorrah and therefore a threat who must be marginalized through ridicule at every opportunity. Now, Miley’s a big star and no cool kid or cheerleader can bring her down all on their own. But the plan’s bigger and more sophisticated than that.
One possible outcome is that someday, like all of us, Miley slips up in a way that allows the left to gang up and attempt to destroy her as a moral hypocrite. Call it the Miss California Playbook. But worse case, through their ridicule of Miley, the celebrity enforcers have sent an unmistakable warning to any up-and-comers who might have considered being true to who they really are and following in Miley’s moral footsteps.
The message is crystal clear: The path of least resistance to becoming one of the cool kids and spared public humiliation is to join the James Spader Collective.
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Head of nail, meet Hammer.
The sad thing about atheists and non-religious people is they can't live by their own advice. They tell Christians all the time that they need to just leave people alone. But the minute an atheist encounters a believer they try to convert them through atheist evangelism.
Also, atheists can't take Christian disapproval. They don't believe in hell but they don't like the fact that Christians believe that atheists are headed there. Why care what someone else thinks if you don't even believe in the place they think you are headed.
Atheists contradict themselves at every turn.
Unless you are a person of color, then it's ok to talk about your faith. And that's not meant to be sarcastic—it's the truth.
that was in a Seinfeld episode. Puddy thought Elaine was going to hell. They went to a priest, who asked her why she cared since she didn't believe in Hell.
It turned out they were both going, and Elaine was happy again.
Seinfeld=Wisdom
Billy Ray would thump Spader's (increasingly abundant) butt.
I have been calling the left the collective for a while.
It appears i did not recognize the "Sub-collectives"
I also didn't know they had names. "The James Spade Collective"? Genuis, Nolte. Well played
If Hollywood doesn't kill God, how can Obama replace Him?
Wolf, as an Atheist myself, I would ask you to consider not lumping all of us into one small box. I have no desire to convert anyone, and I will stand shoulder to shoulder with you or any one to defend your rights to practice your religion. If you look at my past comment stream, you will see this is true. I do understand that large numbers of Atheist are, as you stated, just not all of us. Thanks
Miley Cyrus is part Cherokee. Therefore, she is a person of color.
Of course, most "whites" in the South are people who are part Indian, black, or Hispanic, but it would really mess up liberal hatred of the white South to admit that.
Hollywood doesn't like being challanged on its morals. ( it doesn't seem to have any) Keep the faith Miley and the Jonas brothers too. You are an excellent role model for my tween boys. Hollywood doesn't seem to understand the concept of forgivness or unconditional love. It seems that the only love that they understand is
eros or carnal love.
Is it a bad thing if I admit I always liked James Spader???? not the collective – Good Lord am I familiar with dealing with that collective. I guess you could say that for the Left, politics and culture is all about living in high school again.
Which is why I couldnt wait to get away from it.
Excellent article! John Hughes RULES!
Yes, Black Athletes who have found Jesus are fine.
White Christians from the south are crazy.
Go figure.
Interesting question. HOW much weight has Spader put on lately?
He could hardly button his suit coat that last time I saw him.
Just when I think BH can't get any better, it does. Mr. Nolte, you are one excellent writer and you hit it spot on.
BTW, I heard you on that audio clip on the Patriot radio station. Your love and knowledge of movies is great. You are one cool guy. Keep up the good work.
Doesn't James Spader have anything better to do, like worrying about his own career?
Nothing wrong with liking James Spader.
I just saw David Cronenberg's Crash for the first time (not the movie about racism). Interesting film but NOT for everybody.
As for high school, I only graduated in 2001 and I was in DECA. No one knew who we were or what we did! But that's what I liked about it – we sort of operated under everyone's radar and were free to march to the beat of our own drum. We did activites and went on trips and our teacher was the one who ran the school store and refilled the soda machines, yet FBLA always seemed to get more attention.
"Disney talent stable is flashing a giant collective promise ring in our faces"
Hmmm, why is it that if the Left doesn't like something its described as "flashing in our faces"? No joke, I've had friends on the left that refer to any display of religion/faith as having it "crammed down their throat".
I doubt Miley gives an invitation at her concerts nor do the Jonas Bros. toss purity rings and Gideon Bibles into the audience. So why the indignation?
Wolf, I have to second StlDan's comment. I am an atheist and we are all not the same. I live in LA and work for a major studio and see this type of bullying first hand. In fact, because of my conservative values I am often mistaken for a Christian or Republican and have suffered ridicule because of it. They try to make me a stranger in my own country. I would be more acceptable to my peers if I were a devout Muslim. Liberal Democrats have many enemies. Let's stick together friend and push back.
Sharon, no disrepect to you, but John Hughes only wrote one movie. Ferris Bueller's Sixteen Pretty, Pink Some Kind of Wonderful Breakfast Candle Club.
It was about people who don't quite fit in and are persecuted by the campus elites. Then Molly Ringwald and Anthony Michael Hall discover their worth. There is personal growth and much rejoicing.
Really? I've read that Miley Cyrus tweeted that she looks forward to going to Perez Hilton's wedding cuz Jesus loves everybody, blah blah blah. She's openly opposed to the spread of Gomorrah?
A few intelligent, articulate Christians in Hollywood who come to mind are Patricia Heaton and Judge Reinhold. Wish there were more.
I have to agree with you two as well… I am not an Atheist but a Christian (at least I try) one of my fave advisor/professors is an Atheist and we both knew each others religion but we never teased each other over it or ridiculed each other over it (not that it would be appropriate anyway, but the dept. I was in was such a small dept. that we were more like a family than anything)… I like to believe that most Atheists are like my professor.. The only Atheists I ever see prostylitizing are those that hide behind that anonymity of the internet (or they were Grad Assistants and they genuinely thought they were so much better than everyone else, like some GA's are).
I am thinking that it wasn't James Spader the person that is being refered to in the analaogy, but the character being portrayed by James Spader in that John Hughes high school.
As for Spader himself, I know nothing of his leanings either way, and I wont comment on any possible weight issues as I've been delightfully putting on an abundance of my own *lol*. Married life's been good to me.
What I really loved is after 80 comments that said things to the effect of "Leave Miley and the others alone, it's a free country you moron, she can believe whatever the hell she want's" they stopped taking comments… there is that Hollywood "(in)tolerance" for ya…
I had even left a comment yesterday that said if Miley hearting Jesus was so friking annoying then de-friend her already… it's not that hard… well maybe not those exact words, but to that effect.
Judge Reinhold? Who knew? I'm reminded of his Emmy-nominated role as the "close talker" in a two-part Seinfeld episode. Good stuff.
I stand corrected. I was talking about the vast majority of atheists. Glad to see some of you are alright with religious freedom.
From my experience, LoneWolf is right about most Atheists — most I've met do contradict themselves at every turn. In fact, I almost expect it when I get into a conversation with one.
However, my best friend is like StlDan. He knows exactly what he believes and how it relates to other belief structures. I'm a lifelong Catholic, and he get along fine.
I'll admit It is hard for an older guy to keep up with much of what goes on with "E" but I understand John's point and it is a very good analogy. Normally I wouldn't care except this is representative of the whole point of Big Hollywood, e.g. the need to combat ownership of the country's culture by the political left.
"The Evil Hollywood Cabal hates overt Christians, except for those extremely powerful members of said Cabal like Miley Cyrus and Diddy, who don't count because they don't support my point, which is central to my point. Libs drool!"
that was my read as well.
welcome to the joys of fat married life.
Don't lump them all in together. There are Atheists and then there are militant Atheists. I would call the first group closer to agnostics really; they prefer not to have belief and are comfortable with that although I suspect they would believe if they found compelling reason to do so; practically speaking, they just don't worry about it because they don't find it relevant or necessary. The latter group are simply angry at belief and insecure IME. It's their insecurity that drives them to act the way they do towards those of us with belief, and they often lash out particularly venomously at Christians because they tend to have had their "bad experiences" with faith at the hands of Christians, often mommy and daddy if you dig at them, so they're angry at Christians.
I'm sorry if I've mischaracterized those of you who jsut called yourselves atheists, but that's my experiences with some friends of mine who are self-identified non-militant atheists. They get just as annoyed by the militant type as I do.
Well, they would probably say in private, "See? I knew they had bad genes!"
As in "Make Rut, not War!"
Not to defend Mr. Spader. But I hate Heidi Montag too! But I guess for different reasons.
that's a stretch even for you… the Cyrus clan are southerners and Hollywood will marginilize her as much as possible if she doesn't march to the secular line when she grows up. Diddy is a fraud. Next?
Judge Reinhold…I loved watching his courtroom growing up! hehe.
Miley and the "Disney" crew are the worst since they could undermine years of Liberal school indoctrination just when the kids are thinking, maybe I've been fed a load of BS.
The cool kids are losing ratings and status. The income being earned by a Miley is more genuine than what a Puffy does now.
the Hollywood Left should enjoy their dominion- which will prove to be short lived. Not having Bush around to demonize, now having their hand selected nebbish in charge means they have to PRODUCE. Something angry shouting backbenchers have trouble with. Watch the revenues continue to sag. Watch alternate conservative media flourish. Watch California go BK because of unsustainable liberal nitwittery.
Will just see who has the zeitgeist down…
I wonder if it had something to do with seeing Phoebe Cates shirtless.
Watched Jamie Foxx's "Blame It" video night and realized he is seriously amoral, so his attack on Miley is understandable. Pretty disgusting actually. That "Blame It" mentality is something I tried briefly and walked away from because it is such a wasteland. It is a sad, sad, sad, sad, sad place, that video. Got a beat, you can dance to it, but you can't survive long there. Just didn't know Jamie was so out of the loop. I genuinely think he is a great artist and truly deserves success. But right now his money has taken him to dead end. And for some screwed up reason he has to attack those who are not in the cesspool with him. Jamie, if you have people around you pulling you down, grab a lifeline, find people who want you to survive – really survive. That’s who your true friends are.
I would PAY to see that !! LOL
Robert Duvall, too.
I thought Jamie Foxx claimed to be a Christian? He said he learned to sing in his Church choir.
Matthew 7:21
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
You nailed it John, Hollywood is nothing but a huge High School Senior class with billions dollars behind them. The thing is that none of these so called hip and cool leftist punks have any real talent at all. They are as boring as watching paint dry. Not one of them has any class, they are just a bunch of big mouth, no talent bigoted bores.
Their hatred for conservative Jews & christians goes beyond the pale. Are they that afraid if one of us gets one toe through the door, that that is the end of the neighborhood? Why is it we don't see any 20 something young conservative up and coming filmmaker in the Hollywood system? You think you will ever see a young black conservative christian work within the studio system (Tyler doesn't count, he made his bones in the private sector) and have the clout of a Spike Lee or a conservative white director like Kevin Smith. Are they scared to death of allowing one of us unknowns to have an equal playing field.?
This is typical of the democratic leftist bigoted fascist 'separate but equal' mentality. Isn't it just wonderful to be living in the land of the intolerant where, 'NO CONSERVATIVES NEED APPLY' .
Why would any of us who make films want to join their little boring hateful collective. That is the last environment I want to work in. I have been in the presence of some of these brain dead mutants and listen to the level discourse from these former middle class trash with big money, fast cars and lose women with low self-esteem.
There could be a method to their madness to keep us from getting a piece of their action!
If these Hollywood hipsters won't allow us to play in their sandbox, then we will have to create our own sandbox. Why hang out with bores who think they are cool. The marketplace is there for us to deliver product too, Gibson proved that with the Passion. All we need to do is find the resources to make the kind of films that the public wants to see. The resources are out there, we have to find them or they have to find us. This can be done because we conservatives went to class and took economics 101.
What's a "E!"?
It's not just Hollywood, the entire left operates that way from the White House and Congress, all the way down to my friend who cleans bed pans for a living while insisting George Bush was an idiot. Asking my friend if he can fly a jet usually gets him to at least change the subject for a while, till he's out with another proclamation of how great some one cool is (read modern liberal) and how stupid, evil and vile un-cool (read anything that doesn't conform to modern liberalism). And then we play our game again.
I use the term modern liberal so as not to sully the reputation of true classical liberals who believed in obscure, strange concepts, unknown to modern liberals, like, say, liberty.
I personally want to thank you for this StlDan. I have encountered countless atheists into all sorts of bad stuff, and just the hint of a Jew or Christian and they go off, but this is clearly nowhere near 100% of the cases. A couple of my friends know I'm religious, and they are not, and we have some of the sweetest friendships ever.
However having suffered some bad things in the past from atheists, people like you tend to be a treasure.
You = awesome.
What's even stranger is that atheists haven't evolved in to some higher level being where they don't need some ancient religion directing their lives (unless it's not Christianity or Judaism, any thing else is way cool!), they've only channeled those needs into a different direction: telling everybody else how to live, and happily using government to make them listen.
I've been saying this long before Ann Colture's book, modern liberalism is a religion. Their clergy is union organizers, democratic party hacks, community activists, etc. Their upper clergy are the high rollers in the democratic party, congress people, governors, etc. Their cathedrals, the Kennedy Center, Harvard, Yale, Berkley, the MLK Jr. center. Their martyred saints, holy days, traditions, rituals, and practices that must be adhered too. And with Oprah and the other talk shows of that flavor, they've got public confession, penance and forgiveness.
There's only one significant difference I can find between modern liberalism and the Catholic church I attend. We welcome every one in, and only under the most dire of circumstances, part ways. Modern liberals live to keep people out of their clique, and are all too eager to toss their own under the bus. A nice little nod to Karl Marx, once they acquire their scarce resource (perceived coolness), they immediately build fences around it to keep others out.
StlDan,
You are correct, and I make that mistake myself far too often. Not all atheists are as rabid as most, and they do most certainly deserve credit and respect, which I offer you now.
My own opinion of atheism, having been one for many years, is there seems to be an ebb and flow to it. There were many logical reasons not to believe in God, but there were other feelings that never went entirely away. Over the years I've come up with my own thought on the belief in God.
Every single individual must come up with their own definition of God. What it means to them. If you are happy with your definition, you are religious. If you can come up with a definition, but aren't happy with it, you are agnostic. And if you aren't happy with your definition, then you are an atheist. Over time, I came up with a definition I was quite happy with.
I'm a practicing Catholic. The Church has it's own definition of God, which is close to mine in many areas, and are light years apart on others, but it fits rather nicely with my definition, so I'm a member.
My point being, a person's personal definition of God, by definition, will be unique. And so all religious people should not be grouped together with the lunatic fringe. And you are correct, neither should atheists or agnostics.
Nolte is brilliant. This is not only a good analogy on it's face, but speaks to the deeper issue of the Left. Those on the hard Left, especially those in Hollywood are emotionally stunted. They think like children…at their most mature that is a high-school-level, but most often it's jr. high. "If you disagree with me, it means you hate me." "If you live a lifestyle that conflicts with mine, you're a threat!" "I don't have to be held responsible for my actions or behaviors…but YOU do." "If I can't argue with you, I'm going to call you names and spread gossip about you." "I have to snuff your candle out, so mine burns brighter." It's the kind of narcissism you find in a two-year-old. What we're seeing in politics at the national and state level in this country is also a result of this immaturity. This is what happens when you give the power to children!!! Gah! James Spader pisses me off!
Are you suggesting that one can "leave people alone" and at the same time "disapprove" of them? That sounds good. If that is possible…I wish it was harder to find evidence to the contrary. It seems that there's plenty of disapproval you can hear in the news every day and I don't see that as "leaving people alone".
I agree with dcase.
Without Bush, and little chance of him getting prosecuted for fictitious 'war crimes', the leftists out West have to find SOME openly conservative celebrities to trash.
This, unfortunately, will give closet conservatives in the industry more reason to stay in the closet and STFU.
Liberals in general have 'raged against the machine" most of their lives. They protested, they demonstrated and they spoke "truth to power" against anyone who told them what to do..man. Now look at them…they're the essence of intrusion in everyone's life and are the motor behind the state running everything.
They'll tell you where you can live now, what you can eat, what you can drive, how long you should wait to see a doctor (it's coming), what you can watch, who you can listen to (on the radio), but damn, don't you tell them abortion is even slightly wrong.
They've literally become everything they hated…they're ruining financial companies (most of Wall Street are donkeys no less), car companies (with the aid of unions), the education system and to top it off, they're plodding and pedantic cliche' filled movies are flopping like crazy.
You'd think at some point people would rebel against these insane european wanna-be's….
Are you sure you don't mean "P Diddy's trying to spread 'gonorrhea' throughout the land?"
I noticed there was a problem with E! since the last election where their "news" programs pretty much campainged for Obama while trashing ANYTHING Republican. It was so obvious, I stopped watching. Then the Miss Cali thing happened and they made no secret of their hatred for her, ON AIR. This is where we are now. Public figures who no longer care about their audience of mixed backgrounds and beliefs.
Count me a Spader fan. This ain't about Spader but the "type" he portrayed in said movie.
Maybe, Cranky, but he wrote it well.
"Don’t set out to raze all shrines, you’ll frighten men. Enshrine mediocrity and the shrines are razed… Kill by laughter. Laughter is an instrument of human joy. Learn to use it as a weapon of destruction. Turn it into a sneer. It is simple. Tell them to laugh at virtue."
– Ellsworth Toohey in The Fountainhead
Vampires want to create more vampires, wave a cross at them and they go nuts. I suggest Miley add some garlic cloves to her jewelry.
Don't concentrate on the evidence you find; that will only lead you in the one direction. Rather, consider the possibility that for every piece of evidence you *hear*, there were ten instances of disapproval that were never spoken…
I would invite any of these pencil-neck, pantywaist anti-Christians over to my house to rationally discuss this issue. I'm a meek, mild-mannered 6'2"/220 worth of Bowflex and Beer… and I love Jesus, the christened Son of the living God, because he died in perfection for me so that I don't have to be perfect. Which means, of course, that there's always the risk that I might lose my temper. ;^)
And even when choosing to express disapproval, one needn't be harsh.
Remember – "Diplomacy is the art of telling a man to go to hell – and making him feel happy to be on his way."
It's just like the movie reviewers who ALWAYS pans family or kids' movies. Too sappy, too Family, etc, etc… And haven't they figured out that that is the only movies that are really hits anymore??? Sure isn't their anti-American crap they keep making….
As an atheist, how does is feel to know that every second coming off the clock you're getting closer to nothingness? my guess is you're actually more of an agnostic than an atheist. frankly, i do think atheists are stupid b/c on the biggest question they get it wrong. that doesn't mean you & others like you are not fine, intelligent people, obviously you're not a libtard. i'm a Catholic- often not a good one. But, i've learned that all the "isms" of this world will fail you, me, all of us sooner or later! marxism, racism, communisim, liberalism, islamism, hedonism, socialism, but most especially atheism. the only "ism" that won't fail you is Christianity. It's the only "ism" that has an answer for our human condition of permanent flawedness; being above the beasts but below the angels. Flawed as we are [see: liberals] or not so flawed [see: ms california & dick cheney] Christianity has/is a self correction mechanism. The eventual progression of 100% atheism=destruction/death. You can't be half pregnant. PALIN / TEBOW 2012!!!!
Call it the Tyler Perry syndrome; if you are black or hispanic, then your "spirituality" is non-threatening because you are taken seriously intellectually anyway. But if you are white, then what you believe is VERY important to the order of the universe. Any white who does not embrace secular humanism is threat to the species.
It is simply the dressing up of a very old stereotype about how blacks are simple-minded.
It is a shame that the powers that be in the propaganda arm of Hollywood cannot be like the two atheists in the post above this one, StlDan and The Great Experiment. Bravo gentlemen from a Pentacostal Christian.
As an aside it should be pointed out that Catholics are not supposed to believe that atheists are going to hell. For a Catholic Hell is not a place but a state of Grace. Hell is simply dieing without God's Grace and nothing more. Since there is no material items in the spirit this emptiness is supposed to be worse than any torture that could be experiened in the world. The idea is that when someone dies the actions of their life and the failure to seek forgiveness amount to the individual refusing God within then. Thus going to Hell is a conscisous decision. IF a person is truely an atheist but attempted to live a good life then they are not rejecting God so at the time of their death god would reveal themselves to them. This is known as Baptism of Desire. Course an athesit thinks it nonsense but its interesting to point out.
I have noticed a war brewing between what I call the Disney Music crowd and the MTV crowd. The VJ's have been routinely mocking and panning artists from Disney. I think this is because Disney is stepping into the market of young teenagers that MTV and the POPHOP crowd have determined to be their own.
It is ironic that what led to this was probably the fact that in order to stay edgy they had to have Marylon Manson were mascara, worship Satan and explain he was not gay when he had sex with men because he was being paid. They made the product so crass and blue that parent's blocked their channel and Disney saw a market opportunity. I think this E story is just another example fo the war.
"Why would any of us who make films want to join their little boring hateful collective."
Better drugs, better girls, easier access to both. I need MORE reason than that?
"Miley’s a target-rich environment for celebrity enforcers because she’s openly opposed to the spread of Gomorrah and therefore a threat who must be marginalized through ridicule at every opportunity."
This would be a better argument if there were compelling reasons NOT to marginalize and ridicule Miley Cyrus (or the Jonas brats for that matter.) She's the worst kind of manufactured pop drivel, and it's not like we're low on our supply of marginally-talented teeny-bopper signers. That her "brand" is the sort of fluff that the "conservative" film movement wants to throw it's weight behind doesn't speak very highly of said movement.
E! gave us Juliana Rancic.
Leave Miley Alone. (I’m crying as I write this.)
Great analogy & quote, I just finished reading that book a week and half ago.
I totally agree with the premise of your article, Caucasian Christians are treated so very badly by the powers that be in Hollywood. My only complaint is that the way your article is written people are assuming that James Spader, the real person not the analogy, actually said these things about Miley and the others. Mr. Spader is an EXTREMELY private individual and I highly doubt would ever say anything remotely like this in public even if these would happen to be his private views. I have never read any interview of Mr. Spader where he has ever said an unkind word about anyone and I have read a lot of interviews.
Y'really sure AYN RAND is who you want to quote from in order to critique AGAINST atheism?
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