Big Hollywood’s Top 100 Screen Legends
by John NolteThe American Film Institute went a little list-crazy a few years back. Most of their surveys were fun and about the pure pleasure of movie watching (top 100 chills, quotes, songs, laughs… ), but 1999’s “100 Years…100 Stars” definitely caught my eye because it was less about fun, more about creating something defining and just that bad.
For starters, the list was a bit of a cheat. There weren’t 100 stars, there were 50; 25 men and 25 women. But in order to get to the number 100, the AFI counted the 50 stars and celebrities who acted as on-camera hosts and presenters. In other words, the television show produced around the list was more important than creating a serious, comprehensive list.
Then there’s the actual lists, both awful, most especially the men:
1. Humphrey Bogart
2. Cary Grant
3. James Stewart
4. Marlon Brando
5. Fred Astaire
6. Henry Fonda
7. Clark Gable
8. James Cagney
9. Spencer Tracy
10. Charlie Chaplin
11. Gary Cooper
12. Gregory Peck
13. John Wayne
14. Laurence Olivier
15. Gene Kelly
16. Orson Welles
17. Kirk Douglas
18. James Dean
19. Burt Lancaster
20. The Marx Brothers
21. Buster Keaton
22. Sidney Poitier
23. Robert Mitchum
24. Edward G. Robinson
25. William Holden
First reaction: John Wayne doesn’t make the top ten? And where the hell are Errol Flynn, Charlton Heston and Bob Hope? All three were nominated, didn’t make the final cut, and spotting who they could replace isn’t terribly difficult:
Sidney Poitier, a passable actor without much depth whose films, with a few notable exceptions, haven’t aged well. (Someone has to say it.)
James Dean, who starred in only three films!
Orson Welles, a giant of a director, a splendid actor, but a bigger on screen legend than Heston, Hope and Flynn? Please.
You get the idea… The list not only requires a more comprehensive approach but some everyday, down to earth, living in the real world, apolitical common sense, which the AFI wasn’t going to find in this herding of the usual suspects:
The list was selected by leaders from the American film community, including artists, historians, critics and other cultural leaders, all of whom have never set foot in a Wal-Mart and who chose from a list of 250 nominees in each gender category, as compiled by AFI historians.
Okay, I added the Wal-Mart part, but definitely a bunch of eggheads and leftist elitists, most of whom probably voted for John Wayne while holding their nose and then prayed to the red string around their wrist that no one would notice the absence of the “gun nut.”
So here’s the plan…
Every other day or so, counting backwards and starting with the fellas, Big Hollywood will post one of the Top 100 Screen Legends (50 men and 50 women) using the following AFI criteria:
AFI defines an “American screen legend” as an actor or a team of actors with a significant screen presence in American feature-length films whose screen debut occurred in or before 1950, or whose screen debut occurred after 1950 but whose death has marked a completed body of work.
The rules will be nudged just a bit to include those over the age of 75, because any list with the words “greatest” and “movie star” is automatically ridiculous without Gene Hackman.
Along with the name of the star will be a list of their five best films because after two years of Top 5 posts the idea-well’s gone dry and this buys me a few months.
And after we’re done with the boys, we’ll move in on the ladies … so to speak.
The list is still in the development stage. Comments and suggestions are welcome.







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The female stars list was decent though. What are your problems with it?
That female list was more about the the ranking, as opposed to who did and didn't make the cut. Though there were a few omissions… The men's list, however, is appallingly bad.
SO, you willfully eliminate the possiblity of including the Incredible Rob Schneider or Adam Sandler?
But, it also means you can't include Will Ferrell…..okay, I'm on board! Can't wait.
John, I agree entirely with your criticism, but let me say in the list's defense that I think each of the 25 could arguably be on the list — there are no "Brad Pitts," "Leonardo DiCaprio," or "Robert Redford"s on the list.
By the way, when you consider your new list, please allow me to suggest a couple of my favorites: Glenn Ford and Clint Eastwood.
OMG! Where is Sean Connery? can't say it's US stars only; Olivier made the list and he did fewer American films than Sir Sean. Our list:
1) John Wayne 2) Clark Gable 3) Clint Eastwood 4) Sean Connery 5) Errol Flynn 6) Cary Grant 7) Burt Lancaster
Jimmy Stewart 9)Willam Holden10) Paul Newman 11) Steve McQueen 12) James Garner 13) Bruce Willis 14) Robert Mitchum and finally 15) The Three Stooges
how about them apples?
I agree with you that John Wayne not even breaking into the Top 10 is downright criminal, that's a fact.
Connery is over 75 and makes the cut as far as eligibilty on the BH list — as far as making the final cut, you'll have to keep refreshing and visiting our advertisers to find out.
Gotta disagree on Mr. Poitier — he had some immortal moments. ("They call me MR. TIBBS!")
I might replace Kirk Douglas instead . . . or even Marlon Brando. Yes, I know, legend and genius and all the rest, but I'm just not that into him. (Sorry.)
Just have Stewart, Grant, Kelly, Lemmon, Holden, Tracy, Powell (William, not Dick), Rains, and Sanders, and I'll be a happy girl. I don't have to say Wayne because you've already got him.
I'd rather like to have Rex Harrison too, but he's probably not considered enough of a legend. Brilliant, though.
Harumph harumph!
Which reminds me, how about Mel Brooks?
I would put Redford on that list before Dean or Poitier in a heartbeat. He didn't qualify, however.
Harumph. Though… it's hard to call Mel Brooks a great actor. If I was going to pick a Mel Brooks associate, I would pick Gene Wilder.
I have just never seen the appeal of Redford. It's not political on my part, I've just never "gotten it" with Redford. I'd prefer Newman.
Steve McQueen, good call.
Newman didn't qualify either (but does now that he's in Heaven), and Newman is 10 times the legend Redford could even dream of being, but Redford's work still tops Dean and Poitier, IMHO.
Point taken on his acting ability, but if Welles can make the list because he was a brilliant director, and a so-so actor then I think Brooks could have been given the same consideration. To me it's an either they'd both be valid, or both not thing.
With Wilder though you're definitely on solid ground as far as I'm concerned. And I can believe I'm going to admit this but I thought "The Adventure of Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother" was awesome.
I agree, Steve McQueen is always a good call.
Ok, I would agree with that.
Any love for Van Johnson? I thought he was tremendous in Caine Mutiny.
I've liked almost all of his movies, and he's got one heck of a screen presence. Even more interesting to me, he's got a technique that just makes it impossible not to watch him when he's on the screen. He's always feeding the viewer little reasons to keep watching him (scene stealing, I guess).
Check out the scene where Yul Brenner and McQueen are riding the carriage. Watch McQueen as he unloads and reloads his shotgun as Brenner is talking. You end up watching McQueen, even though Brenner is the one talking. Apparently, this really irritated Brenner.
Paul Newman and Cary Grant. My Favorites.
My favorite Wilder is actually "Silver Streak", with "Young Frankenstein" a very close second.
Who wasn't good in the Caine Mutiny? But I do agree about V. Johnson.
I've always had a hard time with lists, though both would make my top 10 list for sure. You know who else I would like to see on the list? James Mason.
I agree that Newman was twice the presence of Redford. Redford seems so "Vanilla".
Where's Charles Boyer, Frederic March,, John Barrymore, Claude Rains, Tyronne Power, Douglas Fairbanks, Sr., Leslie Howard, Alec Guiness, Myrna Loy, Deborah Kerr, Jennifer Jones, Loretta Young, Lana Turner…..
…continuing…Jean Arthur, Irene Dunne, Robert Montgomery, Rosalind Russell, Greer Garson, Charles Laughton, Ronald Coleman…
For goodness sake..stars don't come any bigger than Lana Turner!
Hey, my comment disappeared! What gives? I don't want to have to make that list over again!
I wouldn't mind seeing him on the list.
Oh, there it is.
Lee Marvin. That's all I gotta say.
I can't put them in order – just can't. But here's my list of top 20 male actors:
John Wayne, Charlton Heston, Charles Laughton, James Stewart, Gregory Peck, Humphrey Bogart, Claude Raines, Montgomery Clift, John Barrymore, Frederic March, Paul Newman, Robert Ryan, Gregory Peck, Burt Lancaster, James Cagney, Spencer Tracy, Laurence Olivier, George C. Scott, Cary Grant, Henry Fonda.
Top 20 female actors: (Again, please – these are NOT in order! I can't do it!)
Vivien Leigh, Olivia de Havilland, Joanne Woodward, Elizabeth Taylor, Gene Tierney, Marlene Dietrich, Geraldine Fitzgerald, Myrna Loy, Deborah Kerr, Lana Turner, Marilyn Monroe, Lauren Bacall, Jean Simmons, Sophia Loren, Jeannette MacDonald (yeah, really), Maggie Smith, Bette Davis, Barbara Stanwyck, Celia Johnson, Janet Leigh.
George C Scott… OUTSTANDING. His roles as Patton and Buck Turgidson are, IMHO, legendary.
I loved you in the speed dating seen in The 40 Year Old Virgin. : )
I have a difficult time with such lists that exclude more contemporary actors. For instance how could a list of greatest actors not include Nicholson, DeNiro, Streep, Daniel Day Lewis, Gary Oldman, Judy Dench, Robert Duvall… etc. The ground rules harm the validity of such a list.
Duvall qualifies, he's over 75 — but the word LEGEND is crucial to the puzzle. Decades and history create legends. History hasn't vetted all of these, yet. Will DeNiro and Nicholson be remembered as EPIC actors in thirty years, or have their late career paycheck grabs diminished them. It's hard to rank those still chugging through their careers with chapters left to write. they could still do further harm to their careers or burnish them again.
It's the Jerry Lewis syndrome. Lewis would be much better remembered had he retired in 1960. Instead he went on and hurt his career terribly with a ton of awful, awful films.
William Powell should definitely have been on that list, as well as Frederic March. IMO, James Dean is highly overrated…and, don't hate me for saying this, but so is Brando. The Duke not being part of the top 10 is just horrible.
As for the women, Barbara Stanwyck IS NOT in the top 10? (missing it by 1) I mean, I like Joan Crawford and all, but Stanwyck blows her out of the water when it comes to acting. I was glad to see both Harlow and Lombard on the list (although they rank higher on my personal list) but why no Myrna Loy?
Valid points but I think it's the cult of celebrity of the last 40 years or so that allows these actors like Nicholson, DeNiro and Pacino to draw on their names for big bucks in cheesy fare even after their great work is behind them. Actors blossom at different ages. Will history look down on someone like George Clooney because he got his start in places like the Facts of Life (not that I'm lumping Clooney with the people considered for this list)?
You are dead on about Jerry Lewis though I would say that people seem to turn against comedians very quickly once the schtick gets old. Look at Jim Carrey and Will Farrell today. They both bore me now even though I liked them in the past.
Decent? Where was Loretta Young, Jean Arthur and Maureen O'Hara? Removing Claudette Colbet, Mae West and Ava Gardner would make the necessary room. A noticable ommission on the men's list is Tyrone Power.
What about Peter Sellers?
Colman's a good idea. Actually, he's on TCM right now, primly trying to explain Freud to his very proper wife. It's a hoot.
He made a good Sydney Carton in "A Tale of Two Cities," too.
I don't think history ever looks down on where an actor starts or ends their career. Joan Crawford did some truly awful films at the end of her career, but it hasn't hurt her status in the least. Even the Mommie Dearest tarnish is starting to fade as her incredible work is rediscovered.
You just never know. And not that this means they're going to make the list, but Duvall, Caine, Eastwood, Connery, and Hackman are all pushing eighty. Nothing they can do at this point can affect their careers.
But those pushing 70, like Pacino, Beatty, DeNiro, Nicholson, Jane Fonda, and Dustin Hoffman — who knows? Look at the complete crap Hoffman's been making lately… Who would've guessed that?
But they could all close like Eastwood… Right now I'm disgusted with the lot of them (except Beatty — and I'm talking film here, not politics) and wouldn't put them on the list if they qualified because they're raping their own legacies. But that would be unfair, because it isn't over yet.
So I don't consider them for the list in order to give them a chance and take the personal out of it (my disgust) in order to wait for a time when the whole can be examined.
I don't think history ever looks down on where an actor starts or ends their career. Joan Crawford did some truly awful films at the end of her career, but it hasn't hurt her status in the least. Even the Mommie Dearest tarnish is starting to fade as her incredible work is rediscovered.
You just never know. And not that this means they're going to make the list, but Duvall, Caine, Eastwood, Connery, and Hackman are all pushing eighty. Nothing they can do at this point can affect their careers.
But those pushing 70, like Pacino, Beatty, DeNiro, Nicholson, Jane Fonda, and Dustin Hoffman — who knows? Look at the complete crap Hoffman's been making lately… Who would've guessed that?
But they could all close like Eastwood… Right now I'm disgusted with the lot of them (except Beatty — and I'm talking film here, not politics) and wouldn't put them on the list if they qualified because they're raping their own legacies. But that would be unfair, because it isn't over yet.
So I don't consider them for the list in order to give them a chance and take the personal out of it (my disgust) in order to wait for a time when the whole can be examined.
Oh yes, let's add Duvall too. He's great — and besides, my mom has a thing for him.
What about Al Pacino or Robert De Niro?
Fred Astaire #5? He played the same vaudeville dance impresario in each of his films and the plot was always a misunderstanding about who is who. #5? please…
Stanwyck not in the top ten is as unforgivably stupid as Duke not being in the top ten.
The AFI found a whole lot of chuckleheads to do their voting for them.
Another glaring omission..Montgomery Clift. Also John Garfield. and Moira Shearer
How about Laurel and Hardy and W.C. Fields?
I should have included Caine, as you did (amazing that the more you think about such a list of acting legends the more great actors come out of the woodwork). He has done very good work in the last decade or so after some questionable choices preceding. I wonder if he has more carefully chosen his roles after the late Richard Harris called him out over choosing paychecks before quality.
Natalie Wood!
John Garfield should be included in any list that also has Fonda and Robert Ryan.
These actors are all way before my time but even I know the injustice of leaving out Charlton Heston.
The older I get, the more I realize that John Wayne is easily the greatest screen legend who ever lived. How else can you explain how a guy who has been dead for 30 years this June pops up as the third most popular current Hollwood star? The guy just dominated any major star he was paired in a film with. It could be Dean Martin or Robert Mitchum, Robert Duvall or Kirk Douglas, James Caan or Stewart Granger It didn't seem to matter, any other guy I recall in a John Wayne film seemed dwarfed by him in more ways than one. Jimmy Stewart came pretty close to holding his own in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance but Wayne still stole the show as the tormented Tom Doniphon. He is to screen legends what George Washington is to presidents. John Wayne not being number one is wrong. Not being in the top ten is a farce.
There's a problem with these lists. There were so many wonderful actors and actresses in the 30's, 40's and 50's it's difficult to narrow it down. And then you have all the supporting players. Those old movies were populated with splendid performances. Raymond Massey, Walter Huston, Peter Lorre, Beulah Bondi, Lionel and Ethel Barrymore and on and on.
I would have placed John Wayne as #1 and the rest could be placed in alphabetical order for all I care.
I have a problem with lists too. My current like or dislike depends on the hour of the day, the phase of the moon, strength of my morning coffee….
Lighthouse, you must watch TCM as much as I do. The older actors were simply the best.
Hi, John. I'm sure you already noticed, but just in case, the great adaptation of Welles's "[Shape of] Things to Come" is on TCM tonight at 7pm PDT. A whole bunch of A-list male stars. I don't buy all the messages, since Welles was a socialist. But the anti-war message is interesting. More interesting is the one-world government as the "cure for war" message, combined with the conflicting message of one-world government as a disease of its own. "Wings Over The World," and other cool stuff. Raymond Massey as a government leader standing on the ginormous wing of a peace-enforcing biplane is priceless.
Both of Redford's best films had him playing second to Newman – The Sting and Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid – and he was GREAT playing second fiddle to Newman's Concertmaster, but by himself, meh.
BAM! as Emeril would say. Perfect.
Oh, John Belushi and John Candy both qualify – according to the letter of the rules – as does Chris Farley.
~crickets~
You can't dismiss THREE DAYS OF THE CONDOR, ALL THE PRESIDENT'S MEN, JEREMIAH JONSON, OUT OF AFRICA, THE NATURAL, THE CANDIDATE or a few of the films he directed like ORDINARY PEOPLE and A RIVER RUNS THROUGH IT.
Redford's a leftie twit and an elitist hypocrite, but he's had a very respectable film career. He's not a great actor, but he has a powerful screen presence and is usually convincing in his roles (which many actors can't say today) because he's very good at choosing roles suited to him (the real secret to longevity).
While I agree that Mason is great, he's British and this is the American Film Institute list. If you went with foreign actors you could include Alec Guiness, Peter O'Toole, and Toshiro Mifune.
Also conspicuously absent: Bing Crosby. I'd put him in ahead of Hope, after all, Hope hosted the Oscars, der Bingle won an Oscar.
No mention of Sir Alec Guiness–great actor and true gentleman.
The AFI ARE a lot of Chuckleheads!!- Barbara Stanwyck is just an outstanding actress as Lana Turner is as well. John Wayne, Robert Duvall, Gene Hackman, Clint Eastwood. Sean Connery… I am looking forward to John's upcoming list.
i'm glad some one mentioned the two of them.
I would have to disagree with Mr. Nolte, Orson Welles is way up there.
I think Shatner deserves recognition as well (i know i lost credibility, but the man is a legend)
I'm glad there is no disputing of Jimmy Stewart being on the list.
right on
As much as I enjoy your lists I must admit missing a few, but only the pre Big Hollywood ones. So a bit of recycling slipped in now and then might catch me up. As for these other walking tal,,,,,, er typing encyclopedias of film I'm not so sure. Do like this stuff though.
John–I don't have time right now to check everybody else's suggestions, so I may be duplicating others, but I would need to see William Powell, Jean Arthur, Montgomery Clift and Ginger Rogers on any such list, if I were to take it seriously.
Regards, Burt Prelutsky
Lists like these need to be broken down by the decade, because there have been too many great actors over the long time frame. If an actor is great during more than one decade, they can be on more than one decade list. Ten actors per decade list, the best of the decade gets 10 points, second best gets 9 points, etc. Then tally them up to compile the ultimate list.
Under your rules, can a really bad movie negate the good in an actor's career? If so, I can't get "Up Close and Personal" out of my mind. It totally ruined Redford for me.
Yes! I was going to mention Laughton- an incredible actor. It looks like this list went for the good looking guys. People forget how important Laughton was in his day.
I thought Olivier was British?
Man, how could I forget about Mifune!! He's in my top ten as well.
I'll second that. See North by Northwest.
Never a Brando fan, either. I usually find myself wincing when he is onscreen. During Apocalypse Now i said, "Give me more napalm, please!" Kept expecting him to scream "Stella" or something……
love Caine Mutiny. That's a boring night go to DVD, for sure. Have to see who else makes the top 100. He was pretty good in "Battleground", too.
Good call!
yeah, pretty bad. I like him well enough but, IMHO not top 100.
For your gonsideration, Tony Curtis
Same here, bad with lists, in addition to all those other things my memory plays into it, several times reading through these I keep smacking myself on the forehead and saying,"Why didn't I think of that guy, it's so obvious!"
Seconded, very good call. And I can't believe I forgot him either, not only did I just watch "The Big Red One; Redeux" the other night, but my great-uncle was a friend of his. I'm definitely not on my A-game when it comes to the list thing.
No. One lousy film doesn't can't negate a career unless it's "Yes Man."
Not to give anything away, but I am a major Ginger Rogers fan. That dame deserves ten times the recognition she deserves. Sexy, smart, and she could do ANYTHING. Amazing actress and a Republican to boot.
Both excellent movies too, I think if someone put a gun to my head and made me pick just one Wilder movie to have on a deserted island it'd be "Blazing Saddles" though, his comedic timing in that was just incredible. The original "Producers" though would be be on my list if I was allowed more than one, along with "Silver Streak," "Young Frankenstein" and "Start the Revolution Without Me." Like I said, I'm not good with lists, I always keep thinking of things to add.
Wayne and Bogart must be the top 2. There is no question, anything else is PC insanity. Then Grant and Stewart.
Great call on Ginger Rogers! Though The Major and the Minor is creepy.
Barbara Stanwyck could be my #1. At the least a Top FIve – Great at Drama (Double Indemnity, Meet John Doe) as well as Comedy (Ball of Fire – a great film).
ONe glaring omission Doris Day!
Oops, I spelled Wells (H.G.) as in Welles (Orson).
It would be interesting to break history at the midpoint, say 1974, and select lists for each period. For the first half I think you'd be faced with hard cuts even if you went to 100 each, but for the second half I think you'd run out of really legit contenders at about 35 a side.
I'm not a fan of Out of Africa, but Redford would make it for me based on The Sting and Butch Cassidy (and you're certainly right about The Candidate, possibly the best film about politics. And Jeremiah Johnson is excellent and it falls pretty squarely on Redford's shoulders.)
I'm not a fan of Out of Africa, but Redford would make it for me based on The Sting and Butch Cassidy (and you're certainly right about The Candidate, possibly the best film about politics. And Jeremiah Johnson is excellent and it falls pretty squarely on Redford's shoulders.)
With the Marx Brothers on the original list (and rightly so), I'm thinking that Abbott and Costello have a shot to make John's.
With the Marx Brothers on the original list (and rightly so), I'm thinking that Abbott and Costello have a shot to make John's.
I was going to include Eastwood!!!! I don't know if longevity works, but he has that. True, he has only two expressions, one with the hat, one w/out, but I have to pick him because he has always been "the man" IMHO. Just watched High Plains Drifter last nite, for the 5 trillionth time. Now that was one sexy rough and tough man!! *sigh*
Trivia-Steve McQueen was the original choice for BC and the SK, but couldn't work out the billing issue with Newman. He also was first choice for Close Encounters, Quigley Down Under, The Bodyguard, First Blood, and was planning on making The Bodyguard w/ Diana Ross. Since most here are big movie buffs, you probably all know this, but I thought it interesting.
John, i agree with the rest of the thought process you had… I'll be honest, as much as I like John Wayne movies, other than the actual #10 slot, (not a Chaplin fan), I'd be hard for me to bump the duke in front of any of them.. and I might even put Flynn as #10, with Wayne at #11.
Mel Brooks might rank in a GREAT DIRECTOR list, but not as an actor. Other than Blazing Saddles, which I only like, and Young Frankenstein, which I love — I find Brooks' work extremely tiresome.
Remove Claudette Colbert??????????????? Yes, when the world's gone mad.
Jean Arthur and Maurenn O'Hara not on the list is unforgivable. Young I understand because it was only 25.
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