Jon Stewart Puts Everyone On Notice
by John NolteLast week, Jim Cramer had to be asking himself, “Why me? Why now? Why did Pop Culture’s King Jester choose this point and time to turn me into a national joke for doing what I’ve been doing forever?”
It’s been a few days, so you have to wonder if Cramer’s figured it out yet — or if someone’s explained it to him. He certainly hadn’t pieced it together during his appearance on the “Daily Show” where he looked liked a fighter who didn’t see the punch coming – and he didn’t. Why would he? Through months and months of recession, Cramer’s been on the air doing what he’s been doing for years: Ranting, raving, predicting, promoting, suggesting, picking, pointing, and putting himself across as some kind of Market Seer –just like so many others out there, only he uses action figures.
Cramer’s transgression had nothing to do with any part of the thrashing he took from Jon Stewart. Cramer, an Obama supporter, committed the sin of turning on Barack Obama with his “wealth destroyer” comment.
Had Cramer not hammered Obama, does anyone believe Stewart would have given him the attention he did? The same is true with Rick Santelli. How long has Santelli been doing what he does on CNBC? But it’s only after Santelli criticized Obama that Stewart found something about Santelli (and CNBC) to get morally indignant over. There was only one dynamic that changed here, and that wasn’t how CNBC, Santelli or Cramer do business, it was that they criticized Barack Obama.
But Stewart employs a sleight of hand to keep the rules of the game below the radar. He can’t thrash and humiliate these men for criticizing Obama, that would give the game away, so he finds something else. But the pop culture rules of the game are clear: Stay in line or we will humiliate you. And “we” is Stewart and all those who participate in the viral aspect of Stewart’s game of humiliation.
And don’t confuse this with a defense of Cramer or any of the noisy, smarter-than-thou market guys. But unlike Jon Stewart, I’m not smug enough to believe I’m the only one who can see through their schtick. This, of course, would’ve been Cramer’s defense – standing up for the intelligence of his audience and the investor crowd. But I guess only Jon Stewart is smart enough to know bad investment advice when he hears it, even though Stewart didn’t appear to give much of a damn about “the rubes” until Cramer and Santelli dared stray from the liberal talking points.
People who have reached a time of life when they’re in a position to invest are generally a pretty savvy bunch able to discern and make decisions on their own, it’s those not fully formed we should worry about, which is why Jon Stewart’s detached irony and refusal to honor anything other than his own outrage is much more of a pox on society than CNBC.
In the movie “Tin Men“ (1987) there’s a scene where a dishonest aluminum-siding salesman drops a five-dollar bill in the home of a potential sale and then asks the homeowner if the bill belongs to him. The hustle is obvious: do something dishonest to con the sucker into believing you’re honest. In the first minute of this video, you’ll see Jon Stewart drop his own five-dollar bill when he refers to what he does as selling snake oil.
It’s a nice feint on Stewart’s part, a disingenuous shot at humility, a way to hide behind the “I’m just a comedian” card he’s been pulling for years, but Stewart and Co. take themselves very seriously and a flag has been planted and a message sent that there will be a heavy price to pay for criticizing President Obama.
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Everone is still scratching their heads over Cramer's desire for self-immolation. It was an interesting train wreck of a show, and no one channels self-righteous indignation like the left. It was cable TV's take on a 'Truth and Reconciliation' hearing, that favorite device of old marxists to tar and feather (further) their defeated. As sad as it was,
Cramer is kind of a cretin and it's real hard to feel to sorry for him.
Nonetheless, it is indicative of what our purveyors of 'entertainment' have in store for us; can't wait to see Barry on Leno tonight… ho, that'll be a hoot!
Everone is still scratching their heads over Cramer's desire for self-immolation. It was an interesting train wreck of a show, and no one channels self-righteous indignation like the left. It was cable TV's take on a 'Truth and Reconciliation' hearing, that favorite device of old marxists to tar and feather (further) their defeated. As sad as it was,
Cramer is kind of a cretin and it's real hard to feel too sorry for him.
Nonetheless, it is indicative of what our purveyors of 'entertainment' have in store for us; can't wait to see Barry on Leno tonight… ho, that'll be a hoot!
Translation: Anyone not 100% "against" Obama (and/or his policies) has to be working FOR Obama. C'mon, man.
There's a timeline here. The Daily Show was off on CNBC for a week because CNBC (and the rest of the NBC brand) got in a huff over a ribbing they took in one monologue. It went back and forth, THEN Cramer went on the show.
The irony of attacking Cramer is that he admits he voted for Obama and he's constantly telling anyone who will listen that he thinks "Obama is the right guy" — Cramer's beef is with Geithner.
I suspect that Cramer got sneak attacked by Stewart. I think he expected to be treated like any other liberal on the show — he'd be allowed to speak, with only light ribbing, and then they would joke around and promote each other. Stewart, apparently, had other plans because he gave him the full enemy of the show treatment.
I don't think Santelli would have been caught so easily, but then I doubt he would have bothered with a hack like Stewart.
I don't feel sorry for Kramer at all but to have Stewart sit there and criticize someone for something Stewart himself does is the height of hypocrisy. Stewart has no talent, is not funny and pretends to be something he is not, a "free" thinker. Stewart is a loser……………
Jon Stewart is about as lame as they get. There's nothing funny about his shtick. Can you say SHOUT THE PUNCHLINE! As one of the founding members of Butt Boys for Obama, he simply preaches to his fellow liberal followers and his high-school educated studio audience, who, bark like trained seals at the (wink-wink) pro-liberal line.
As you state in your piece, smart people see that behind the “comedy” Stewart is nothing more than a third-rate water carrier and propagandist for the left; And an angry “conformist” at that. It's the un-smart, the stupid people who blindly follow liberalism (which, unfortunately seems to be the majority) that we (for the future of this country) need to worry about.
so this loser voted for Barry? that makes this self-flaggelation that much more disgusting…
Cramer is a guilty white liberal male. Let's be honest about this staged incident. Cramer has teenage kids and sprinkles pop culture references through every filming of his show. Cramer has teenage kids and it apparently is more important for him to get the approval (or public flogging) of a pop culture icon of his kids and somebody he thinks defines the term cool than it is to maintain some standard of integrity for the purpose of keeping his own show (which is actually about the only one who ever openly trashes companies, bureaucrats or CEOs who are frauds; even if he doesn't get all of them).
Jon Stewart is a sanctimonious douchebag. This was a staged event orchestrated by Media Matters (who provided the clips of – no, not Cramers Show – a video from TheStreet.com from a few years ago) and the Obama Attack Machine of which The Daily Show was happy to be chosen as the executioner.
When Cramer torched Chris Cox, Geithner (under Bush), Bush, Bernanke and Paulson, there is not a single bit of 'outrage' from the Left. It was perfectly fine for Cramer to yell 'THEY KNOW NOTHING' a year ago about the Fed and the WH. But when he makes the political mistake of being a card-carrying liberal (albeit a capitalist one) and saying something less than glamorous about The Messiah, you can pretty much cancel your social calendar in NYC because you are on the sh#t list buddy.
Obama is actively screwing up our ability to recover from this recession and he is creating financial damage which will last long after this recession is over (if he ever lets it end….). If don't agree with him, look forward to being attacked ruthlessly by all those groups on the Center For American Progress 8:45am conference calls, the JournoList media conspirers or the morning Clinton War Room surrogates (begala, carville, stephy, rahm, greenberg, etc). And don't think about criticizing George Soros either. All the same people are working from his $$$.
Bob, I didn't think anyone else could be as disingenuous as stewart, but you proved me wrong. Cramer's act on cnbc has been going on for years, during which he's been wrong just as often as he has recently. Stewart only attacks him now, as he points out how the socialist idol obama is intent on wrecking our economy. Either you are blind or you refuse to see, the difference is moot.
No—–body expects the Stewart Inquisition.
His weapons are fear, surprise and ruthless efficiency.
John are you kidding — "not the only one"? You, my friend, are part of the silent over-frick'n-whelming majority on this one.
Good point about apostatacy too.
John are you kidding — "not the only one"? You, my friend, are part of the silent over-frick'n-whelming majority on this one.
Good point about apostacy too.
Good point on the head feint with the "We're both snake oil salesman" … that line always bugged me from the show. It's like Jon Stewart wants to play Edward R. Murrow and act like a serious "journalist" AND keep his little "comedy" show. You can't have it both ways which is why I stopped watching TDS about 6 years ago.
And the worst part, a larger part of the population can't differentiate the serious discussion from the jokes. People get their news from late night comedians…
BTW, here's the Full clip of Cramer that Stewart cut apart and showed the worst parts of
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M-OiXUhZNE&eu...
Another instance of TDS and there wonderful ability to take everything out of context.
I don't get how a person in Cramer's business – increasing wealth for individuals – would ever, ever vote for a socialist to run this country. I believe I read some place that the Wall Streeters overwhelmingly donated more to the Democrats than Republicans. I just don't get it. I have come to the conclusion that the people on Wall Street and the ones reporting on Wall Street have no more of a clue than the rest of us poor tax-paying-bail-out slobs when it comes to financial matters. If Cramer voted for Obama, he's getting what he deserves. Anyone who voted for Obama is going to ultimately get what they deserve. Too bad I've got to go along for that nauseating ride because I certainly didn't vote Democrat and in fact actively campaigned against Obama.
It's going from bad to worse every single day.
The Cramer fight was silly, but c'mon… The reason you people hate Stewart is because he is a leftist, if he was taking shots at Obama everyone here would be hailing him as the best comedian ever. I find him funny, even if i don't agree with him.
I find him neither funny nor agreeable. He stands for everything I stand against and therefore I do not like him and I do not find him entertaining. He'd feel the same way about me if he ever met me. Can't even stand to look at him or listen to his voice – same way I feel about Obama.
Sublime commentary on Stewart, or John Leibowitz (Stewart is not even his real name-haha!). Leibowitz is a facade of a man, pretending to be a wise sage, when instead he is nothing but a college prankster.
If conservatives didn't like leftist comedians, we wouldn't like 99.9% of comedians out there.
Your criticism makes no sense.
My problem with Stewart is that making faces and voice inflection is no substitute for actual wit. Humor must be based on truth, and Stewart's whole schtick can be boiled down to the act of being disengenuous. That's the self-confessed "Snake Oil Salesman's" game, and he's good at it — but he's not funny.
It sounds counter-intuitive, but it's not. Most people think "business" favors capitalism. But what they don't understand, is that BIG business benefits from the government. Government purchases come mainly from big business, so they support additional spending. Government regulation increases the barrier costs that keep competitors out and squeeze smaller, more nible competitors.
Also, government social programs allow Big Business to shift benefits from their bottom line to the taxpayer. That's why the Business Round Table has been pushing for universal health care for years — they want to take the costs off their books and shift them to the government. And if that kills a million small business competitors in the process, all the better.
By the same token, the big banks and investment houses like the regulatory schemes the democrats put in place because it keeps "retail players" — you and I — from being able to do the kinds of investing they can do. If we could all trade the way they do, there would be no need for them.
Given that I've stated how unfunny I think the Newsbusted stuff tends to be, your premise is obviously flawed. If Stewart attacked Obasm the same way he's attacked Cramer, I'd still say, "This guy is double plus unfunny."
Then WHY was Santelli booked on TDS in the first place (before pulling out at almost the last minute)?
I'm the opposite. Even when I do agree with him, I don't think he's funny.
Do I detect a note of anti-semitism? Daily show forever! Led Zeppelin Ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuules!
I wish the liberals would make a decision. They usually do one of three things:
1. Stick with the name you were born with.
2. Change it to sound less ethnic.
3. Change it to sound more ethnic.
Tempest in a teapot. Everybody's eyes are off the ball. Gibbs is the head red herring, Stewart and the rest just lighting fires in the forest and doing fake wolf howls. BOO ! Talking heads jousting with other talking heads ???
The attacks on the media by the media are an incredibly worthless Punch n Judy show, and we sit around watching it, thinking that it means something ? Sleight of hand people. The real show is on another stage and it's a private lap dance for socialism, with a really big tip for the stripper. Bouncers ring the table, you won't get to see.
And what's hilarious about this post is that Stewart, in interview after interview, has never claimed to be anything more than a "college prankster" who "mugs" and takes stuff out of context for the humor potential.
He's been the first to say that if he's being held up as any kind of standard of journalism, then the problem isn't with him or his show, but with the Fourth Estate, be they left or right, itself.
Neither Fox nor MSNBC is much in the way of a news network.
Kind of like our President
Jon Stewart doesn't use his real name. That's hysterical! Neither did/do many celebrities such as Cary Grant, Kirk Douglas, or Gene Wilder.
I admit Stewart leans left, but he has made fun of Obama in recent episodes. There was a bit where he played bits from a recent Obama address and compared it to one of Bush's. They were identical aside from one word. Showing how similar Obama's words were to Bush's is a lot more scathing than making fun of his using a teleprompter, which seemed to be everyone on this site's main complaint until the CNBC fracas.
You tell me Cupcake. CNBC set it up and then cancelled it after your boy Obama attacked Santelli — very presidential by the way.
We find evidence of our society and culture sinking to new lows every day. The fact that a 3rd rate, talentless, MTV cast-off has the kind of media power that he does, illustrates that we are now at the edge of the abyss. One slight breeze and we're going to topple right off the cliff.
I made this case in another forum and was pilloried by everyone there. "Why are you dragging Obama into this – You Hate Criminal.(I like to imagine those who disagree with me as sounding like Mr. Garrison) It's good to know that even if I am crazy I am not alone -John Nolte is crazy too. See my courage in the face of Left Wing abuse displayed here (I am 70Chip):
http://www.thewarpath.net/parking-lot/28867-jon-s...
it's Stewart John Liebowitz… not that that means anything; just pointing it out…
he does some goofy noises then he mugs, his "jokes" are nothing but an obvious attempt to push his political bias with no punchline and a lot of censored swearing to make him seem more "serious"
Davee – He's not funny anymore. I used to love Stewart and Maher. They started believing their own publicity, started taking themselves too seriously, and stopped being funny. They consider themselves pundits now, not comedians.
[...] Jon Stewart Wins Cramer Showdown I may be crazy, wrong, or an Obama-Hater but I am not alone: Big Hollywood
Republican Greed Culture gets its ass busted and some of you bitches want to whine about it. Hey, I know a place where you can get 22% on your money. Its a Hedge Fund in the middle of your mind. You guys have been celebrating Book Cookers for years.
9/10 here probably doesn't watch the daily show to begin with.
He does make fun of Obama since most of his jokes are triggered by headlines. I didn't see anything here about the fact that he was the only comedian that had more jokes about Obama than McCain during the campaign.
Other famous name changers: John Wayne, Michael Caine and Orson Bean. My personal favorite–Judy Garland (nee Frances Gumm)
Absolutely true. Give this guy a donut or something for nailing it dead on the mark.
I first became aware of this in the late 80's. My friend came from a family that owned and operated a small business, a gas station. When regulations came down that all gas stations had to change how underground tanks are constructed and that they all had to retrofit these tanks by a certain date, pretty much all small gas stations disappeared. They stopped, because they couldn't afford the changes… but Shell, and Texaco and Exxon and BP? No problem.
Seriously… how many small, independent gas stations do you see these days?
His name is Barack Leibowitz? Wow!
And he was my least favorite Bee Gee.
Absolutely, large corporations are miniature socialist states. Big government and Big business walk hand in hand. Why else does the system seem to punish the small business and let big scoundrels get away with murder?
I remember when Stewart was between jobs, hawking this book he did which among other things, made fun of Martha Stewart (a fellow Dem). Then he met her in some green room and felt embarrassed by it. He is a one note hack comic. He kind of reminds me of a modern day Arthur Godfrey (a 50s TV icon), sitting on his throne thinking he's some kind of king maker or king slayer. But one day he will screw up like Godfrey did when he fired Julius La Rosa on air. People will abandon him.
I do give him credit for making fun of Obama once during the election. Over his faux presidential seal His audience booed him and he never did it again.
[...] take on the Daily Show and Stewarts real agenda from Big [...]
[...] Jon Stewart Wins Cramer Showdown I may be crazy, wrong, or an Obama-Hater but I am not alone: Big Hollywood
I must have missed the show where he made fun of all the false info given to the public by Barney Frank. Lets see him confront Barney. Now that is a show I would watch.
Yeah, and the ballooning national debt under Obama is almost as vast as your ignorance. Go back to buzzword heaven and convince yourself you actually have a point to make.
Is it greedy to want government entitlements rather than working?
And an almost fanatical devotion to The Dope.
Everyone with any sense has known that Cramer is a buffoon. You think it's just a coincidence that Stewart had on his show right after he "bashes" Obama?
Right on brother. I am an engineer who works largely in the environmental field and I have witnessed the growing insidious symbiosis of government and big banking and industry over the past 20 years. Those cats love barriers to entry like Barney Frank loves the interior of male large intestines.
Recently, as the banks were starting to unravel like a cheap Chinese suit I researched the banking regulations and found among other things, it was against the law for a lending institution to not treat welfare payments as legitimate income. Then they come up with Sarbanes Oxley which makes those who comply with these inane regulations worthy of sterling securities ratings.
I'll second that, that debacle has to be up there with the resent Ponzie scams.
The point is, though-he's NOT making fun of Obama. He poses as an "equal time" satirist, and he's not peddling equal time at all. He's protecting the regime in power.
Stewart is in a bind. He's built his largely left audience by attacking Bush for the last two terms. It fits him well because he's liberal, his writers are liberal and the media loves his faux-intellectual biting insipidness.
But there is an even big problem now. There are no prominent Republicans left in Washington to attack, so he has to turn targets elsewhere to find material his audience will react favorably to.
Thus enters Cramer and Santelli. Cramer was born to be mocked. CNBC went all-in with the coverage. The perfect target. Instead of more balance, you'll see more scathing anecdotes at Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh – easy targets, because liberals are already predisposed to hate them. Plus, it doesn't require thinking ideas much, perfect for Stewart's frat boy, slacker demographic.
Deep down, he knows he's no better, probably worse, than the talking punditry he so derisively mocks. Stewart may hate them for what they've done to political discussion, but all he's done is carry the discourse even further into the gutter and make it a one-note joke.
The drunk heckler in the crowd may be funny for two minutes, past that he becomes a bore. Stewart is in the process of becoming a bore.
I remember when Democrats thought dissent was patriotic. Anybody else remember those days?
Could not agree more with your second paragraph (particularly).
Where is Jon's moral outrage with Dodd, Waxman and Frank? Why no anger towards those whose sole mission is to be for, but are instead giving it to the people?
Jon is transparent as our government is not. Cramer is and now will forever be, in my estimation, a putz.
Yep. How many times did CNBC glorify Jim with that idiotic rant "THEY KNOW NOTHING!"
Now that was staged.
People are mad at Jim because he had the stupidity / loose enough lips to put a liberal voice to the silent curiosity…" does this guy we voted for know what the H E Double Hockeysticks he is doing?" worry. The minute you give voice to that then the Slip and Slide is greased and mounted for a ride down Witch Mountain. Or would that be for a journey to the center of the earth.
I think I need to eat something…
I am one of those people that find him funny sometimes. I would find it JUSTIFIED and SHOCKING to see him take even a glancing blow at Obama. Stewart is being thrashed here because he is caught being an untruthful little prig. Funny true is funny even when I do not like it. Funny untrue is only funny when it fits in with your ugly agenda.
Pardon, that is Barack O'Leibowitz today.
He's been the first to say that if he's being held up as any kind of standard of journalism, then the problem isn't with him or his show, but with the Fourth Estate, be they left or right, itself.
I wish he'd make that a little clearer to his audience.
I've never found John Stewart funny. I've never found anything even remotely funny about the Daily Show. I also find it frightening how many people around my age (31) treat it as a news source.
Stewart got his marching orders from the Whitehouse. I wonder if they came in the form of a phone call from Rahm Emmanuel himself or if there was some sort of 'dead-drop' involved.
Count me among the hordes that cannot stand Stewart. In fact, Jon Stewart played a major role in helping me realize that I am a conservative.
I just found his show to be unfunny and unintelligent — yet so many of my college classmates claimed he was the smartest political commentator alive. Personally, I think Stewart couldn't wax Greg Gutfeld's arse.
No wonder I was the one setting the curve in all my classes. Seriously, I really was.
Very well put, hadn't thought of it that way.
*Mortgage brokers loved Fannie and Freddie, the Dems kept the ball rolling there
*Sarbannes Oxley which is a bipartisan disaster favors large business
And sure enough, the majority of wall streeters understood this and backed the socialist revolution. Serves them right to get kicked in the nads.
By the way, John…you know that it's Stephen Colbert who uses the "On Notice" recurring gag, right?
"book cookers"? Do you mean congressmen who don't pay their full taxes? Or, how about cabinet appointees that cheat on their taxes? Or congressmen who hide bribes in their freezer?
Looks like the "greed culture" is much stronger on the Left than the right there Ted.
"I didn't see anything here about the fact that he was the only comedian that had more jokes about Obama than McCain during the campaign."
If you are going to use the term "fact" you must back it up with stats, bro.
Sorry, I'm having a hard time getting worked up either way.
The Soviets used to take a minister or the head of the secret police out every once in awhile and shoot them in the head, and I felt the same way then I do about Cramer's travails now:
"Good start."
JS is certainly no Craig Kilborne…TDS was better when it was hosted by a funnny @-hole, as opposed to the just plain @-hole that hosts it now.
So is this the new mea culpa? Any liberal who dares to disagree with the Obama administration has to atone for his sins on the Jon Stewart show? Thrilling. It may be a reason to start watching Jon Stewart again.
http://the100mostannoyingthings.blogspot.com/
A few years ago one of the left's luminaries–I think it was Chomsky or Zinn, although I can't remember for sure–said in an interview that Jon Stewart was a better news source for young people than any of the cable networks. (Remember, there are those on the left who call CNN the "Zionist News Network".)
That statement is all you need to know about Stewart's brand of "fake journalism".
I loved TDS when Craig Kilborne helmed it. It was like the Onion. Nothing was serious and it was funny as hell. His five questions segment was great. Then JS came on and screwed it all up. I think I watched one episode and tuned out.
And when you freely accept the fact that you're an @-hole, like Ck did, it works. When you try to be funny to hide it like Stewart, you look like a D-bag
The reason John Stewart is not funny is he is the celebrant of Yuppie Status whoring. Lefties like Seinfeld, Larry David especially, skewer Yuppie Status whoring and warring … ruthlessly.
It's why Larry David, a left guy, is funny. Because he knows and makes fun of the ruthless competition for status among Yuppies that drives their entire lives.
Stewart CELEBRATES the status warring and that is why he is not funny. He is syncophantic, less risky and edgy than Jay Leno (and that says a lot), the comedian of the status quo.
There is nothing more pathetic than "the Man" rebelling "against the Man" when he is in fact, the Man. And John Stewart is most definitely the Man.
Larry David is a riot.
FYI, for those looking for "recent" Obama/Democrat jokes on TDS… how about TODAY? It's not posted anywhere yet, but I'm watching the 3/17/09 episode RIGHT NOW and the opening monologue/shooting-gallery was pretty much all Democrat (Glenn Beck and Lou Dobbs got a seperate, smaller segment to lead-in to the commercials.)
First gag (all from Stewart): "WTF"ing about the Obama plan to make vets pay for combat injuries with their private insurance. Pretty angry, ending on suggestion that for their next move the administration might consider installing a water-park at Arlington.
Second up: Slamming Bernanke etc. for complaining about the AIG bonuses which they created the loophole to provide.
Final bit: Making fun of Obama's "choked up" line. Stewart mugs a bit, then points out that Obama "always talks like that" (start-stopping, coughing, etc) and asks if that means he's "always pissed at us" and "was 'yes we can' an argument?"
Stupid Post!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds him unfunny. There's very little wit, just a lot of mugging. the audience is MoveOn, primed to laugh, he makes a face or, as you say, SHOUTS and they're in hysterics.
Many comedians say things I disagree with and I can laugh because they;re witty. Carlin, Pryor, even Bill Maher 15 years ago. But take away Stewart's leftism and he's not left with much. He's Keith Olbermann with faces. Neither have what it takes to survive outside of the adoration of the left who only ask for leftism from their entertainers these days.
And I'm well aware Cramer is Democrat. That's why he was hit so hard. He strayed.
Apostates always get it worse because they can do the most damage.
Plus, Craig Kilborne was 10 times the eye candy Stewart was, so at least I still had something to look at when I hit mute. Now? Nothin. I try to pretend John Stewart is like James Franco if he were hit by a truck, but it's just not the same.
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The Left has been doing this kind of thing since the French Revolution. And if you want to see how they've been doing it people in Hollywood since its "Golden Age" read "Hollywood Party: How Communism Seduced the American Film Industry in the 1930s and 1940s"
I believe it was actually a couple weeks ago. Sorry, I don't keep a daily log of his targets.
Wall Street was the biggest contributor to Obama's election campaign, so I have little sympathy for him making them the enemy.
No, no MovieBob! They've made up their minds that Stewart is an Obama Administration shrill! Don't confuse them with reality!
No, it was from his inauguration speech. That's how I know it was 2-months old despite not watching the show (but I have seen the clip).
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?vid...
And yes, it was funny.
If you can find another example of Stewart making fun of Obama, it would go a long way in making your point.
It says quite a bit that you need to use a 2 month old show to make this point.
On MovieBob's advice, I went and checked out last night's show (http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/index.j...
When he talked about the Veteran health care issue, he mentioned Obama once and he used the term "the Obama administration".
The only other Obama mention was when he made fun of Obama for not getting mad enough and appearing too nice. This was very reminiscent of the recent SNL "The Rock Obama" skit.
Ouch. That was just scathing stuff. I mean, George Bush is lucky he never faced a withering assault like that.
If you guys want to present this episode as some sort of counter-argument to this post, then I must say you present a very weak case.
This is the most critical I have seen Stewart of Obama on The Daily Show.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?vid...
It's from the time when Obama reversed his decision to use public funds during the campaign.
Great, great point Mr. Price. Ever since I read Hayek's "The Road to Serfdom" I take very seriously the threat of a "left-right" alliance in government.
I made a comment agreeing with bpjam but it got moderated out of existence for some reason. Very frustrating.
Narrative: Jon Stewart Doesn't Criticize Obama and his Administration!
Example presented of Stewart criticizing Obama and his Administration.
New Narrative: Jon Stewart Doesn't Criticize the Obama and his Administration the way I want!
I'll take "Goal Post Shifting" for 100, Alex.
I suppose Kilborn is eye candy….if you like ridiculously tall white boys from Minnesota that bear a resemblance to Detective Randu Disher from 'Monk'…
then again, who am I to judge? I like the fat chick with the big nose from 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding'
I suppose Kilborn is eye candy….if you like ridiculously tall white boys from Minnesota that bear a resemblance to Detective Randy Disher from 'Monk'…
then again, who am I to judge? I like the fat chick with the big nose from 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding'
and lol @ James Franco hit by a truck
I happened to catch part of a Daily Show recently and was pleased to see a pretty good joke about Timothy Geithner, comparing him to deer in the headlights.
who are you kidding? 'The Daily Show' is to lib-hipsters what NPR is to big money liberals.
I guess one could make the case that O'Reilly, Beck, Red Eye, etc. cater to arch conservatives. Minus the adoring peanut gallery, of course
It's easy to forget that 'the Daily Show' had Craig Kilborn as host. He was smug but slightly affable and goofy, and some of the humor pandered to left-of-center sensibilities. That said, the show could be funny (to me anyway). But he stepped down (retired?) and I think the show's creators wanted something with more of a political axe to grind.
so now they got this sardonic midget aping and getting pious all the time and I don't care what Dennis Miller says, the dude is a weasely tool.
derr..that's right, Kilby went on to CBS for 'the Late Late Show'….which was alright…and then that drunken Scotsman replaced him. Maybe Kilby is a buzzkill in Hollywood circles (which would be awesome of course)
Not to mention that Barron's Magazine ran a piece on Cramer early last month that raised far more serious questions about his show than Stewart did. I suppose those guys are out to humiliate all who criticize Obama as well?
Dontchya hate it when one-bit comedians begin to take themselves too seriously…..?????
Stewart should have to pay Dana Carvey royalties for doing the longest running "Church Lady" skit in history.
What a sad exercise this is…. First you take our argument to an extreme as if we've said STEWART NEVER CRITICIZES OBAMA — then to knock down that straw man you come at us with anecdotal evidence.
Anyone with a room temperature IQ can see the extreme difference between how Obama is treated in pop culturedom and how Bush was treated.
To argue anything different is absurd to anyone who has eyes and ears.
The Left has a great strategy, though, never admit to anything — stay on the talking points.
Wow. Way to compare apples and NASCAR cars to make a point.
For some reason the Left seems to believe lobyying for America to lose a war is patriotic, but our opposition to 5 trillion in gov't spending is unpatriotic.
They got their talking points and are sticking to them. This isn't about intellectual honesty, it's about winning.
(It's still Taylor, I just signed up and stuff)
Yeah, I do like white boys with senses of humor and stuff. The tall and Mini-soda thing was just a plus in my book. :p
~Miss Quinn
you don't have to be liberal to realize sexual harasser O'Reilly, hypocritical pill-popper Limbaugh, and "believe in something, even if it's wrong" fake-crier Beck are "easy targets" because they've put such a huge bulls-eye on themselves, Stewart et al don't even NEED to point that out to most of us…
Two media outlets lambasting Cramer. One has a bigger audience. And the age and individual net worth of the average Barron's reader is probably much higher than a Daily Show viewer. Otherwise I'm not seeing much difference. So why is Barron's going after Cramer? The February article was at least the second they've run on him.
If there are legit issues there, it's as much in Stewart's purview to go after him on a "fake" news show as it is a newsweekly. No sinister left-wing motivation necessary. The Barron's article is online, by the way.
Sad thing is how easily Cramer was destroyed. When you read threads like these you'd never get the idea how argumentatively unsound and ripe for total annihilation Cramer was.
And mark these words, Beck's next. Stewart will call out and ridicule Beck until he comes on the show to defend himself and then he'll rip him apart. All the false conservative gods will fall when they are actually forced to defend their attacks against this presidency outside of echo chambers like BH.
Yes, pointing this out makes me anti-Semitic–good one. The left's best attack on Joe the Plumber was that "Joe" was not his name–even though it was his middle name and it is quite common (perhaps 1 in 10 people) use their middle name instead of their first name. In fact, I think Stewart even made that joke.
If anything you prove my point. Where was Stewart after the Barrons article but before the CNBC criticism of Obama?
I think the answer is the chirp-chirp of crickets.
You begin by asking why Cramer would see the punch coming. The answer is, because it's been coming from other outlets for some time now.
"Where was Stewart after the Barrons article but before the CNBC criticism of Obama?"
The week before the Barron's article ran (Feb. 9), Cramer compared Obama to Lenin on the Scarborough show. That was a full month before the Santelli/Cramer contretemps. So if Stewart was riding to the rescue, he needs some equestrian tutoring.
And the week Stewart tore into Santelli, the Dow had dropped another 6%. You say it's Obama-love. I say Stewart probably just looked at his dadgum stock portfolio.
Yes John, I got my talking points this morning, with my paper. Comes every day. Nice kid delivers it too. Young. Eager to destroy Western Civilization and Everything America Holds Dear. I tip him extra during Kwanzaa because he's got so much to do what with the creche bashing and all.
Wait! What's that? A knock on the door! It must be my NEW talking points! I so love it when Chairman Obama encourages me to write about his Top Man Jon Stewart.
It's good to be loved.
All the Jon Leibowitz Stewart need to read this, How Jon Stewart Went Bad, by Tucker Carlson: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/20...
John, you may be on to something. Perhaps Jody doesn't have eyes and ears. That would explain the continuous inability to comprehend the arguments presented.
Now THAT is funny.
Point out a "leftist" who is "lobyying for America to lose a war". You know, to the effect of "I wish the United States would lose in Iraq". By all means post a quote. What are the odds it's from the same place (it rhymes with " your class") you pulled your "quote" from Ashley Judd?
MoveOn? That's soooo 2005. Jon Stewart only allows the Soldiers of ACORN and Al-Qaeda to attend.
Agreed.
I will tell you who has made comments that insinuate "lobbying for America to lose a war" ….let's start with Harry Reid, you remeber him, right, Paul?
If Jim does not learn his lesson and keep his eyes down he will end up like Ron Brown.
No, he doesn't slam Obama in that clip, he slams "government." And he knows that is a dead issue, right now. It was reported in the news yesterday that the administration had decided not to go that route. BTW, I see how his audience doesn't give him the big catcalls when he even gets close to Obama. I remember seeing one when he did somewhat diss Obama, and he told the audience, "It's o.k., you can laugh, now." Uhm, color me unimpressed. It isn't really that cool and hip to rail against "the man," when you are "the man."
Wow, I am no fan of Tucker Carlson's, but he nailed it in that one. I didn't read the comments, but I can just imagine what all the little leftist darlings had to say. I am sure they excoriated Carlson for daring to bash John the Great. Predictable. Of course, they also have that great wit Meghan McCain writing there, so what can you expect?
The last six years just passed you by, didn´t they?
House majority whip James Clyburn said around the beginning of the surge that success in Iraq "would be very bad for us". He was right. Democrats had got themselves in a position where they were deeply invested in failure. Do you not remember the endless talk of "we´ve lost", timetables for withdrawal and so on, which all but signalled to our enemies: "Keep at it, you´re winning"? And don´t call it a democratic debate. Having voted for the war, they didn´t make a single constructive suggestion. Needless to say, they endangered the lives of our soldiers.
And that is just elected politicans. You will not tell me that their rabid base – like code pink, moveon.org and the fanatics at Kos – were concerned patriots caring about the best outcome for our soldiers, America or Iraq, never mind victory. They could not contain their glee over bad news. Of course, there have not been many bad news for almost two years now. Only Obama can still screw this up.
Reid, Pelosi, Kennedy, Rangel and Murtha are just examples. We know "winter soldier" Kerry was not on side even in the Vietnam war. If you want to win, you don´t advertise every setback and blow small mistakes out of all proportion for personal political gain. For example, Murtha prejudged Marines before their trial, proclaiming they were guilty of massacring civilians. Turns out they weren´t. Why would the corrupt swine do that?
If Stewart just wanted to be funny, he would never miss the countless opportunities to mock Obama.
So asking for a timetable for withdraw and pointing out mistakes (the total absence of WMD is not exactly a little oopsie..) lobbied to undermine the war while liberal strawmen "could not contain their glee over bad news" . Okee. Doke.
I encourage you to join all those gun nuts, survivalists, Posse Comitatus, Aryan Nation, NeoCons, and your fellow travelers to go and hunker down in the bunker to await the aftermath. Do not sleep. Stay on watch until the rice and beans run out. Might want to stock up on a few more textbooks for Junior and Juniorette. Knock yourself out.
Unlike the last japanese soldier on a nameless South Pacific rock, we will not be sending out search parties to bring you back.
You wish it was that easy but for those of us who knew it was going to be the huge mistake that it is won't even entertain a "well maybe if it was not for a total lack of WMD's, so lets just settle for democracy in some oil-rich sewer hole" mood.
Us dirty liberals said, "Don't do it". But no, you went right along with the rationale that Iraq was a threat, despite evidence to the contrary and when it was proven a falsehood, the mission was devoted to democracy. If any other nation had tried to pull that off, their leaders would be rotting in the Hague.
So keep busy with excoriating any liberal flavor of the day whenever they have the gall to find a way to put an end to troop casualties. Way to live a life there, mensa candidate.
Instead of looking for excuses to lay on your chosen liberal enemies and Iraq, it's about time that you as a self proclaimed expert face the idiot in the mirror: You- or your poorly chosen leaders- are no part of the solution. You're the problem.
Don´t play stupid. You know exactly what Clyburn meant and now you want to change the subject, as you guys always do. You are not even claiming that the Democrats and the rabid left were happy about the turnaround in Iraq. Everybody has seen their long faces.
The point of timetables was to hamper the ability to prosecute the war, forestall a good outcome and hang the resultant failure around the neck of the Bush administration. It was not constructive and was not meant to be. Demanding capitulation (in front of the whole world!) while the war is undecided and soldiers are fighting means undermining the war effort and probably got people killed. If the Dems had gotten their way, it would have been a real catastrophe. And you obviously don´t give a damn. Which tells me all I need to know about you.
And what do you mean by strawmen? That´s a sizeable part of the Democrat base.
If you had any arguments, you wouldn´t flee into personal insults at the first sign of trouble. You can only pull that off once.
[...] the Jon Stewart silliness can be found in this Michael Moynihan column at Reason.com, and in this John Nolte piece at Big [...]
Rearguing the merits of the war has nothing to do with my point about their behavior. The Democrats had all the information. They voted for it. Then they got cold feet and tried to lose "Bush´s war". That was incredibly irresponsible. They did not "mean well". It would have been a complete political and humanitarian disaster – much bigger than what you are complaining about now – if we had run away. But that´s ok because liberals are content if they can feel good about themselves and blame their domestic enemies on everything. You don´t like to hear it, but the shoe fits…
I have heard all the arguments before. In six years the left went from fake concern about Iraqi civilians to whining about the monetary cost of the war – whatever works at the time. I have no respect for them. And many of them were happy to accuse the troops they pretend to care about. I´m not forgetting that, ever.
Nobody is taking our casualties lightly. But you would have made sure they were in vain. Having created the first representative government in an Arab nation is huge. Best thing we could do given the situation, your precious emotions notwithstanding.
Pardon my irreverence, but in my humble opinion jon stewart is a minuscule piece of maggot dung. Typical brain-dead libtard. Unfortunately, he's being paid a ridiculous salary to insult our intelligence – kinda like cramer! Only that obnoxious p.o.s., keith olbermann, can surpass them. puke.
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