Exclusive Review: Media Malpractice: How Obama Got Elected and Palin Was Targeted
by John NolteBig Hollywood was given an exclusive first look at John Ziegler’s latest documentary covering the media coverage of the 2008 presidential election.
In journalistic terms it’s called a “tick-tock.” This is when the media crafts a news story that takes you behind the scenes of an event and breaks down, piece by linear piece, the individual acts which led up to that event. With “Media Malpractice: How Obama Got Elected and Palin Was Targeted,” director John Ziegler (“Blocking the Path to 9/11“) turns the art of the tick-tock around and aims it, with damning effect, squarely at the news media. The result is not a documentary, at least not for anyone who believes in truth, fairness or journalistic integrity – the result is a horror film.
If you expect Ziegler to build his case using easy targets like Keith Olbermann aping David Strathairn playing Edward R. Murrow, think again. Olbermann’s a bit player in this cinematic indictment, a clown. The real conspirators run the gamut of every network (cable and otherwise), and most of the major print and online publications. Maybe it’s not a horror story, after all. Maybe it’s something closer to an Agatha Christie mystery where everyone’s the murderer.
The victim, of course, is American journalism.
Even for those of us who obsessively followed every twist and turn of the 2008 presidential election, watching Ziegler’s autopsy of the grisly affair, starting with the primaries and ending with the days immediately following Barack Obama’s securing of the Presidency, is to experience in a comprehensive way the breadth and scope of American media corruption.
Watching election coverage in real time last year was often frustrating to the point of outrage, and for the first half-hour of “Media Malpractice” the old outrage returns. But what Ziegler does is summarize his case like a prosecutor delivering a closing argument, bringing the disparate pieces together into something much more important than a narrative. What we see is the media’s behavior in full blown context, and as the entire story comes together your outrage slowly evolves into something much more disturbing.
The real genius behind the film is in the wise choice not to use talking heads. Other than pieces of an interview with Governor Sarah Palin (the full interview is included as a DVD extra) that pop up in the opening and then later during the coverage of her bid for Vice President, Ziegler understands that no matter how smart or insightful, no analyst could make as damning a case against the participants as the words and actions of the participants themselves.
Other than the director’s narration to fill in the gaps and frame the context, the filmmmaker gets out of the way and allows us to witness first hand as Campbell Brown, Anderson Cooper, Brian Williams, Wolf Blitzer, Major Garrett, Katie Couric, Charlie Gibson and a troubling legion of familiar others summon audacious amounts of hypocrisy, ignorance and dishonesty to blunt any piece of news that could hurt Obama and destroy any individual who could stop him – and that includes Hillary Clinton, Palin, and an unlicensed plumber who dared to ask a question the media wouldn’t.
This compelling first person approach more than makes up for the film’s few flaws. The first and last ten minutes are sluggishly paced and the soundtrack is frequently intrusive and unnecessary, but once the film’s narrative takes hold these issues are of little consequence. And with a run-time of 115 minutes the overall pacing is deliberate. This is a necessity, though, in order to fairly and fully make the case for an expansive and darkly effective media conspiracy.
So trained are we for the few second clip that it took a while for me to understand that the reason some clips feel longish is because the film is more interested in being fair than fulfilling the needs of our national ADD. We’re not “told” what anyone said. No shady editing techniques are employed to make a subject look bad. Ziegler let’s them talk. Full quotes. Full context. He knows it’s not necessary to play the drive-by game on the drive-byers. They step into the noose and jump all on their own.
It’s worth pointing out that “Media Malpractice” is not anything close to an anti-Obama screed. Obviously within the mission of the film, William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright and other cuts from our current President’s Not So Greatest Hits get some play, but for you reasonable Democrats who were horrified by the media corruption even as it benefited your guy, there’s nothing to fear here.
Palin haters will be disappointed. Included in the DVD is Ziegler’s full 45-minute interview with the Governor, snippets of which were released earlier in the year to great media uproar for her daring to criticize the likes of Katie Couric. Ziegler has the Governor watch and comment on the harshest coverage she received, some of it for the first time, and her impressive poise, good humor, and graciousness, while witnessing the lies and attacks on her family, remains intact. Whatever effect this vicious and partisan coverage may have had on her future is yet to be seen, but that she hasn’t allowed it to get under her skin is obvious.
Narrative or documentary, all good films have a moment that stay with you long after the credits roll, and there’s one here that put a chill down my spine. Directly after Palin’s triumphant acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention, which, in effect, made complete fools of all those involved in the coordinated three-day media attempt to destroy her beforehand, NBC anchorman Brian Williams took to the air and read, word for word, a manifesto written by Time magazine’s very partisan Joe Klein demanding the media not relent in their destruction of her. His piece was littered with lies, including the scurrilous one furthered by Charlie Gibson about Palin claiming God was on our side in Iraq, even though a videotape of the event proves otherwise.
Watching Brian Williams, who up to that point had always come off as a slightly befuddled Dad right out of a 50’s sitcom, trumpet a partisan character assassination and call to arms his media cohorts is a revealing look at the rancid heart that beats beneath the blow dry. It’s also a warning.
In the production-values department, “Media Malpractice” may feel a bit rushed in spots but as of right now it’s the most important post-election analysis released and couldn’t be more timely or necessary. We’re less than 20 months away from the next election and you only think you understand the magnitude of media corruption.







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I hope he really nails it. Some of the other criticisms have been blunted by not being clear enough, or being lost in the shuffle of similar works. The fact that there are still people here complaining about Obama's birth certificate is a testament to how nonsense crowds out the real message and causes people who don't have their mind already made up can be turned off to real knowledge. David Freddoso, Bernie Goldberg, Dick Morris (although sometimes his own worst enemy), Jonah Goldberg, and David Horowitz all wrote stunning books deconstructing some of the deceptive practices carried on by the Left in the recent past. Unfortunately, none really broke through to a wide enough market to accomplish much (besides aggravate like-minded people who read them). There needs to be one well-researched, measured, fair, accurate, and articulate work that people can cite when talking with someone who could be persuaded. Right now there are many, but also many that suffer from their authors being too theatrical at times, or using sloppy methods to put the books together.
There are a lot of people out there willing to be convinced, but there needs to be a starting point to send them to open their eyes (or at least to arm the readers with factual information to challenge the nonsense many people accept without question).
A complete indictment on the MSM. And they are guilty of sending America into the trash heap.
I've been waiting for this. As much as I've tried to not watch news programs since November, I'm going to have to grab this and devour it, then show it to my friends and family. Let them see for themselves how they were played this past year. Good job Zig.
I'm jealous and I want a copy!
When will we understand that these are not "journalists" but revolutionaries spearheading a putsch?
Alright all you lovers of America, get the word out about this movie to all your friends and family!!! The only way we will get back into office in 2010 and defeat the Marxist Dupeocrats is by making sure this is seen by swing voters.
Finally, John, a non-incendiary, well-written review. Does the movie tell me what is in it for GE, owner of NBC, Viacom owner of CBS or Disney owner of ABC? Why did they choose to trash Palin and by doing so belittle their man McCain? Isn't the real cabal in the laps of the men who run these publically held companies? Are they interviewed in this expose? If not, your movie may be interesting, maybe even chilling, but the real story is way, way, way far away from the bit players who appear in this movie. When you have something that gets to the real story–why publically held media giants wanted to destroy their man McCain and take out Palin for any future runs, please let me know.
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The sad part is that Brian Williams, Katie Couric, Charlie Gibson, et al get so much airtime. Regardless of your politics, how could anyone with half a brain believe anything these people have to say?
http://the100mostannoyingthings.blogspot.com/
This is amusing. It's now all the media's fault for hurling only softball questions to Obama, while Palin got all the "hardball" ones like……. "Which magazines do you read?"
Wow, if Sarah Palin can't deal with Katie Couric, how do you think she'll do with the terrorists?
Media coverage ain't fair, deal with it, crybabies.
If you think Palin is qualified to lead this great country, there is something seriously neurologically wrong with you.
PDS = Palin Delusional Syndrome
Do you see the pattern? It is quite obvious that this administration needs adversaries.
Rules for Radicals 12: "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."
Read about it here:
http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/8925/alinsky….
Manfacturing outrage over Palin, Joe Wurzelbacher, Rush Limbaugh, Rick Santelli – the list will go on and on – they don´t need to debate the issues and get their allies hopped up on righteous hate. All that is missing are the show trials.
This is the new politics – all tactics and organizing and partisanship and power. No honor, no substance.
Bush never did anything like this.
America is being ruined by Media / Liberals / Obama cult followers…
Unfortunately, my dearest Nolte, this is old news, which, 'till before the current crisis, this society, numbed by comforts and a crappy educational system which forbids critical thinking, simply refused to admit or confront. After Obama's (undeserved) election, things have gone even worse, anxieties and misery replacing comfort and political correctness, allowing for futher lack of interest for this situation.
An adjusted saying here: "nations deserve the media they have" – and yes, we mightily deserve Olberman, Mathews, Travis Smiley and the NY Times crew.
Then: doesn't this situation add more depth to the idea of "decadence"?
Augias stable is huge, and Ziegler is a hero – but adding insult to injury, it will be Pelosi's doc about conservative voters that will get air time, not Ziegler's.
El Gordo:
You are exactly right! Bush never attempted to personally intimidate and destroy his critics. But then, this is what the Left has always done. Look at what happened to Linda Tripp or Ken Starr. Very few people can stand up to that kind of demonization. I'm really, really hoping that Sarah Palin has one thick hide….
To counter – if you think Obama is qualified to lead this country, there is something seriously neurologically wrong with you. Do you think he can 'deal' with the hardened criminals that are our enemies? How about Biden? You know the guy who said Obama wasn't ready, who said he would make rookie mistakes, and who told the intuitive and brilliant Katie Couric that FDR got on TV during the Depression and explained it all to Americans? And BTW, did YOU see the documentary? Are you able to comment on it insightfully? Sure doesn't sound like it.
Hey LoBlo, your classy liberalism is showing. Go bow down to your man, fetch his water, wash his feet, etc.
Do I think Obama is qualified to lead this country? Of course I do. And so do a majority of Americans including many prominent republicans, including even Pat Robertson.
Do I think he can "deal" with hardened criminals that are our enemies? Yes, I do. Because nobody was worse than George W. Bush, who in 7 years has NOT caught Osama Bin Paden. Do you remember who Osama Bin Laden is?
What documentary? Are you one of those sad people who need television shows in order to get a historical perspective? Let me guess, you never took a college-level course in American history, either. How can you comment on ANYTHING insightfully?
Only crackpot economists to the right of Arnold Kling dispute the claim that FDR got us out of depression. Funny, it's those same crackpot economists who derided people like Paul Krugman (and many others) for their predictions that George W. Bush's deregulation will tank the economy.
I'm sorry if I just went completely over your head.
I cannot WAIT to see this. Watch how the media try to squash this film, and try to keep as many people from seeing as possible. It is time we the people stage our own media revolution and take back our airways, newspapers and magazines.
Well moron, your boy Obama is really fixing things. Palin would have been a better choice judging by his performance. Oh wait, he's going to fix problems during his second term. Sorry, I forgot
Thanks for the review, John. I'm getting a copy of this.
Also, "the rancid heart that beats beneath the blow dry" is an awesome turn of phrase. Now I'm wishing I'd thought of it first.
It's on my must-buy list.
I wonder if it counts as propaganda if the media wants to spin for the government? I saw two Obama covers in the grocery store checkout line and neither magazine was about the news. I think we have a Dear Leader that finally gives voice to the fabulous people in Hollywood and New York. Creepy.
What is up with all of the articles on this site being about Republicans as victims? This site is so depressing and whiny! I thought Big Hollywood would cover entertainment from a balanced, conservative perspective. But every thing here is about how evil and terrible the left is and the suffering of Republicans/conservatives.
Sarah Palin as victim? What Republican isn't a victim to you? Palin is hardly any one's victims. She gave as good as he got. She lost. That's politics. Obama got hit repeatedly with the Reverend Wright and Trinity stuff. He won.
I just can't see Reagan or Goldwater whining this much. This is what drives me nuts about my fellow conservatives. This constant victimization schtick has got to end.
I don't think you can tell the whole story, unless you find out exactly where Soros and his cabol fits in the puzzle. It's like a Batman antagonist – sinister forces are at work..
Never thought I would EVER say this, but Joe Biden was right. When it comes to Obama, he's making rookie mistakes. But the left never gave Bush the excuse of having 'rookie mistakes'. WHEN YOU ARE THE PRESIDENT, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED 'ROOKIE MISTAKES'!
Pat Robertson as a "prominent Republican"? You are pretty desperate for an example if you have to use him.
And you seem to have a bad case of BDS. Bush has liberated two countries and decimated al-Qaeda and kept the country safe from any attacks during the last seven years. Besides, even if Bin Laden had been killed early on you libs would still find something to whine about.
"only crackpot economists" – must mean anyone who disagrees with you. Because you have a Ph.D in economics right? Or is it US History? Oh wait, you read the NYT and Daily Kos regularly. My bad, we should all bow down to your expertise and use of ALL CAPS to make points. Krugman would have defended Bush with his last breath if he had been a democrat and spent the same way domestically. We had nearly 7 years of steady growth even after the 9/11 attacks. The market started its decline after the dems got into power in 2006 and is taking a nosedive now that Obama is in. Must be a coincidence I guess.
Trust me – you are a moral, economic and political pygmy. You aren't going over anyone's head here.
Haha, moron? He's doing all the right things according to A HUGE MAJORITY of the American public.
Did I mention A HUGE MAJORITY.
But not to you, because you probably voted for George W. Bush, probably even twice, and every American, republican or Democrat, is going to pay dearly because of people like YOU.
Obama may never fix the economy in four years. It may take decades. It took Bill Clinton two years to get America out of the hole that George H. W. Bush put us in, but it was nowhere near as deep as the hole George W. Bush put us in.
But at least Obama knows what he is doing and has the right people on the job. McCain had Phil Gramm, the guy who claimed this was just a "mental recession" and we're just a nation of "whiners" – the man who is almost entirely to blame for deregulation that led to this crisis was McCain's chief economic advisor.
On the other hand, perhaps you really do want America to implode like the Soviet Union in the 80's, in which case your confidence in McCain/Palin would've been a reasonable choice.
Why exactly do you keep saying "their man McCain"? What makes you think McCain was "the man" of these CEOs?
I couldn't stand it when the Lefties jumped on Bush needlessly and I don't like it when conservatives do the same with Obama. The man has only been in office less than 30 days. It's hardly fair to blame him for this economic crisis.
Part of being conservative is supposed to be about owning up to one's faults and taking responsibility. This country did not get into its current financial mess just because of Democrats. We conservatives had a large say in creating this situation. The same old story about the evil liberal media is getting old, old, old. It's hard to believe in this boogieman when Rupert Murdoch owns Fox, the NY Post, TV stations in most major markets, and the large presence of conservatives on the radio, not to forget the existence of sites like this.
I keep waiting to hear conservative leaders offer real alternatives instead of politicking and but nothing is being said. All I hear from Congressional leaders and pundits is that we must fight the Democrats. Great! But that seems like a zombie-like call. Where is the real leadership? Do Jindahl and Barbour understand how silly they seem when they say that they want to turn away unemployment cash to desperate people?
I have hard working family members who have lost their jobs. They are looking for answers not finger pointing and whining about Sarah Palin. My mother loved Sarah until she watched the debate. Sarah's refusal to answer questions or use standard English turned her off. Palin's lack of command of formal English is not the fault of the media.
Athough this seems to be an interesting documentary, I'm afraid it will fall on deaf ears because of the following: 1) The "drive-by" media have no shame. Long ago, they abadoned journalistic integrity and impartiality and this latest, sad episode underscores their ability and desire to promote their cause or candidate at any expense. 2) The Obama followers wanted their Messiah elected and couldn't have cared less about his associations with criminals, his own admitted cocaine use, or ability to lie and twist the truth depending on the occasion. 3) There is no way the guilty will be prosecuted. It seems that anything is fair in politics, especially with the media providing cover.
It's a sad chapter in our nation's history, but hopefully we will rise above it and come to our collective sense in time for the next election.
Never intimidated critics? So, when Valerie Plame's status as a CIA agent was leaked to the press by someone in the Bush Administration , it was a huge coincidence that her husband was a Bush critic?
Oh, I am so happy you took the insulting-condensending-BDR route! This is going to take two comments and you might need an atlas.
My husband worked for the USG for two years in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Waziristan. He was there when we caught KSM. He fought the Taliban in Afghanistan. He is a senior officer in the USG. So I don't need a TV show or YOU to tell me on damn thing about terrorism, UBL or war. I'm a lucky lady – hot , brilliant husband (Masters from Cal) and is a total bad-ass on the behalf of non-thinking fools like you.
Part 2 to the lovely, but dumb-as-rabit.
Economy: Get some facts, it was the CRA, Fannie and Freddie and the Dems clever scheme to cover up all the bad loans they made by spreading them out in the loan bundles they sold. THAT is what has crashed the system. Mortgage backed securities that are bad. I was a mortgage banker for four years. I know the business. You can also thank WWII for ending the Depression. Historical note: Hoover was President during most of the Depression and there was no TV.
Obama and terrorism? He has convinced many Americans that he can get cooperation from our enemies with charm. He can't. He can't because most Dems do not understand why they attack us in the first place. And it's not Bush. Mind you, they attacked us three times BEFORE Bush became President. It's because in their eyes we are corrupt and Godless. They want us dead.
You amuse me.
To use the term MSM (Main Stream Media) you fall into the trap of using their language and imply that their views reflect the "Mainstream" of American people. They do not! The more accurate term to use is Dominate Liberal Mass Media. Let us not help them in their lies by calling them main stream.
Leaked by Richard Armitage, a holdover from the Clinton years and no friend of Bush. Amazing how the narrative continues unmodified even after the truth is known. And talking about Plame without mentioning how she manuevered her non experiecienced husband into the assignment that brought the negativity don on him is trying to create new realities by leaving out important parts of the truth. No was Armitage ever charged because it wasnt a crime!
Reposted to fix spelling errors so some genius doesnt dimiss it because of them.
Leaked by Richard Armitage, a holdover from the Clinton years and no friend of Bush. Amazing how the narrative continues unmodified even after the truth is known. And talking about Plame without mentioning how she manuevered her non experienced husband into the assignment that brought the negativity down on him is trying to create new realities by leaving out important parts of the truth. Nor was Armitage ever charged because it wasnt a crime!
This particular article is a review of a film that dares to prove that the elephant in the room is real. It's not whining. It's making a case. The media were in the tank for Obama. Here's proof. Where's the whining?
Sheesh! dismiss. The fingers dont work well in the AM
To say such a thing indicates a certain amount of naiveté. I would not think that the head of a major corporation would or should care what the product is but only about the bottom line. One can hire any number of lower payed shills to worry about product content. If the money comes in the CEO is happy. As it should be.
– "Pat Robertson as a "prominent Republican"?"
Yes, a former republican presidential candidate and national celebrity, of sorts, is called a prominent republican. Do you understand what prominent means?
– "Bush has liberated two countries"
liberated? You apparently did not notice that the despicable Taliban is making a comeback in Afghanistan, and most Iraqis, citizens and leaders, don't want US troops in their country anymore – a majority prefer the old Saddam regime over what they have now (no regime).
– "kept the country safe from any attacks during the last seven years"
The only reason America probably hasn't been attacked is, what would be the point? Terrorism is about creating fear, and the republican party did a pretty damn good job of it didn't they? The GOP even used a Bin Laden tape as a political ad.
– "even if Bin Laden had been killed early on you libs"
Bin Laden is NOT killed. What do you even have to say to that?
– "Krugman would have defended Bush with his last breath if he had been a democrat"
No, because in all likelihood, if Bush was a Democrat, the economy would be doing fine right now. Republicans destroy the economy whenever they are in power.
– "We had nearly 7 years of steady growth even after the 9/11 attacks. The market started its decline after the dems got into power in 2006 and is taking a nosedive now that Obama is in."
Wow. You really are stupid. The Democrats only had a slight majority since 2007. So according to you, the national debt doubled to 10 trillion and that 45 trillion credit swap market all happened in under two years. You seem intelligent enough to craft complete sentences so I suspect you are capable of going to the treasury department website and look at the actual numbers. Go do it! Now. Work for your facts instead of having them spoon fed, you fat lazy git.
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No, it is you who is amusing. What do you think about a president who said he visited 57 states? What do you think about a VP who said FDR was president in 1929 (and went on TV)?.
hee hee, you just get more amusing…
1. It took Obama three weeks to DOUBLE the national debt that it took Bush eight years to accumulate.
2. We ARE a nation of whiners. You are illustrating that point in a mighty fine way.
3. I believe nationalizing the banks is a pretty 'soviet' move. Wait, that's Obama's move.
4. You like to use the word "huge" a lot. Pretty Freudian of you. I'm just sayin'…
Rabit please read the NY Times article on the link below and you will find that you don't have the first clue what you are talking about.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E...
Nothing but nothing will change the simple fact that the Bush gang had so messed up things that the American public wanted a change. They voted for what they wanted with or without the MSM, which still has any number of conservatives magazines, tv shows, and newspaper owners….The raving GOP people commenting here simply have to get over it: yhou ran a lousy two candidates and olffered nothing that was much different from 8 years of a terrible president.
Hey moron: No one leaked her status, she and Pretty-Boy Joe had trumpeted it all over D.C. before Robert Novak mentioned it in his column. The source, as everyone now knows, was Colin Powell's yes-man, Richard Armitage. Patrick Fitzgerald even knew this at or before the beginning of his investigation, yet harrassed countless Bush Admin folks until he got something he could prosecute: Scooter Libby's recall of conversations with Tim Russert differently than Russert. That's the only "criminal" thing that happened with the Plame kerfuffle. Really heroic stuff by the Dems and Fitzgerald? I don't think so. Get your facts straight and quit regurgitating the Lib talking points.
uh oh, A mole. Gunnar you are very poor at disguiseing your leftism.
It is completely ignorant to believe that owners and CEOs care about content. They do not a should not. Bottom line and only bottom line. But, then who expects a socialist to have the first clue about economics. Your jobless friends children are going to have to pay for the Government spending money it doesn't have. That is what socialist do "Give it to me now and to hell with the future and my kids"
"You like to use the word "huge" a lot. Pretty Freudian of you. I'm just sayin'… "
That would be a comment win, Beth!
On a more serious note, "huge" is used in place of actual numbers, because rabit is making all his statistics up. Which is why everything he says is vague. "Most Iraqis don't want us there" when "most" = whatever number he makes up on the spur of the moment being another great example.
(and how can you take someone who can't even spell rabbit correctly seriously?)
You are boring. You have no content. You are just a blow hole. Doesn't Michael Moore or Al Gore have a site you can go to?
But I do like the fact that Palin is stuck in your head. If she were as insignificant as you claim why you spending all this time taking shots. Transparent very transparent. The left is scared to death of Sarah.
I don't think many would argue with you that the Republicans ran a lousy presidential candidate. I'm still not even sure how he emerged from the primaries victorious. I had written him off much earlier on. The (not raving) GOP people knew we had a weak candidate, but we also saw the press pushing Obama and covering for his shortcomings. It was an uphill battle which only drew closer when Palin's vice presidential candidacy was announced. Then McCain's campaign made the fatal error of suppressing a natural attack dog and kept her under wraps for too long. And the press eviscerated her.
It was time for "change" again; 8 to 12 years is all a party seems to get anymore. Frankly, I'm relieved all the crap is falling on the Democrats now, because they richly deserve it. It's nice to have the pressure off of us while we regroup. Our turn will come again. I just hope my country is still recognizable by then.
Gunnar accidentally gives everything away. He says that we're criticizing Obama when we are cticizing the media! How is it that the media = Obama even in a leftist's echo-chamber of a mind? Maybe because they're so in the tank for him.
Has anyone thought about organizing a boycott against all advertisers that use the MSM (ABC,CBS and NBC, MSNBC, and CNN for sure, maybe others) like so that we can either cripple, kill or change the MSM from doing the harm that they are doing to our country? I think with a little bit of exposure, millions of people would join in a boycott. I think about this all the time and have come up with a couple acronyms for the cause but I do not know where to enlist support or how to get this organize. I would appreciate comments.
Oh, I get it now! HUGE mistake on my part. Thanks for your HUGE help. Let's get rabit a HUGE dictionary. There's a HUGE pun in that last bit, but I won't go there…
I think Obama must have been really disappointed when he found out there were really only 50 states. I bet he thought Bush and Cheney stole some on their way.
Though just think of this and pray everyday for Obama – President Biden…
Wow, you drank the Kool-Aid plus the hook. line, and sinker. All of your statements prove you have the blinders on. Always remember this, the liberal Democrats needed things to get worse so they could get elected and they arranged that. They weren't interested in making things better for you and me just for the sake of making the country better. They WANTED it worse. When this economy turns around…and it will, no matter what the government does…Obama and pals will claim it as their own. And they will have no cause to.
BTW, deregulation didn't tank the economy, not be a long shot. Sorry that that went over your head.
Oh, dear John. Don't you know? The Dolchstoßlegende always reads better in the original German.
Here is link to a CNN report confirming it was Richard Armitage for your enjoyment.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/30/leak.armit...
This was tedious writing…..the first 4 paragraphs all say the same thing…I got too bored to finish.
Dear Beth–
freudian? that stuff went out years ago but if you so like huge, then go for it. As for nationalizing banks: why the heck not? they failed and now they need taxpayers money to fix them to keep country afloat? Why should we subsidize lousy bankers!
Double deficit? Sure. Because Bush left us in such a mess and with so few restraints left in place that we need huge sums to fix things–same as FDR needed but more. Bush deficit in part because of lies that got us into war in iraq where we have spent zillions…and for what?
Wrong on all counts. The leak came from a political gadfly in the State Dept. Not anyone you could rightly call "from the Bush Administration. Try digging a little deeper for you facts than US magazine.
Don't you people have any new material. those are the same talking points from years ago. We know the truth about those thinks now.
MSM helps them. They are NOT Main Stream. They are the "Dominant Liberal Mass Media" DLMM. The Trap is using their label and it makes it much harder to get out.
"and for what?"
Victory. That is what. A free, prosper and democratic Iraq that is an ally of the United States is worth how much?
For your information we did Iraq on the cheap. The spending on the liberation and securing of Iraq and Afghanistan has amounted to 7% of the federal budget. 7 cents on the dollar spent by the Feds. What was the other 93 cents spent on?
Dude,
Ever hear of the CRA of 1977. Or the lawsuits brought by ACORN against banks forcing them to make loans they knew were risky. Hey, wasn't Obama a lawyer for ACORN? Wonder what he did in that capacity?
Ever hear of the derivatives sold by Freddie and Fannie?
You got a lot to learn PAL. Your thinking is vapid.
I feel like I got a bloody nose. That hit the mark. If the Republican party actually showed that they stood for something, it might have made all the difference in the world.
I'm afraid, however, we're entering an era of "Big Ideas". Sadly, most of those got us into a world of hurt in the last century.
See. Gunnar makes one rational, clearly-worded argument from a conservative standpoint and he gets accused as disguiseing [sic] his leftism by the illiterate "whizbang" and "PeterPike."
Conservatism has morphed into a religious cult that attacks anyone as "traitors" who has an individual viewpoint.
What good is a brain if it's not allowed the capacity for independent thought.
What good is democracy without thriving debate between people with different viewpoints.
Why do conservatives hate the entire idea of Democracy and Freedom of Thought?
Oh please, rabit..do you think Biden would have been asked about "what 3 policies of Bush's policies.. would you change"? Heck, why would any journalist ask that ? That's not even the VP's duties, so WHY ask something that stupid, something that would NEVER happen?
Would Biden have been asked about Supreme Court decisions? Of course not… And those are "softball" questions?
You're not nearly as amusing as rabit. But every bit as clueless. Zillions? Please refer to rabit's use of the word 'huge'. The Freud comment was a joke. You see, he implied I had a small brain, so I implied that he was worried about the size of his manhood due to his obsession with HUGE. Judging by your first two sentences, you are clearly too crude to understand the innuendo.
I just put my credit card back in my, (very empty wallet), after buying 2 copy's of the vid. One for me, and one to send to Crissy ("tingle") Matthews.
Do you think he might watch it and share it with his friends?
Not Over.
I could supply exact URLs to support my arguments, but knowing how lazy and pathetic conservatives are from countless debates, they never ever, ever bother to look up facts – even if you slap a nice big fat URL in front of their face. But here's a nice big fat URL for you;
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/b...
and another;
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/arti...
But you will not go to those links because you are too afraid of facts.
3/4 of the population of Iraq want US troops out of the country. Undeniable truth. Suck it down.
Oh my, you are as cluess as rabit. However, you are far more coarse. The Freudian thing is called a joke. You see, he implied my brain is small. I, in turn, implied that he was obsessed with size. Does this help? Probably not, since you used the word 'zillions'.
Good job, John, and thanks for bringing this to our attention. I won't watch it as I saw it unfold in real time during the election cycle. Lots of debate here but one thing seems to stand out: few people really know much about the Great Depression or the politics of the FDR years. It was nasty, very, very nasty during his time in office. I have just finished going over two biographies of FDR, one recent ("The Roosevelts"), and the other ("The Lion and the Fox") from the 1950s. Both conclude categorically that the New Deal as a whole was a failure, and that only World War II rescued the USA from the depression. The USA did not adopt the naive Keynesian theory of economics on the scale that Keynes recommended to FDR; we were in very hot water in mid-1941.
to continue…FDR had promised that "Your boys are not going to be sent into foreign wars." FDR wanted us in the war and knowing that it would be inevitable, justified the comment privately by stating "If we're attacked, it's no longer a foreign war." The later charges against him that he "allowed" the attack on Pearl Harbor in order to get us into the war were not far-fetched. Probably they were untrue, but plausible. This quote from "The Lion and the Fox" sums things up nicely: "It was a major failure of American democracy that it was not able in the late 1930s to provide jobs for its workers and food, clothes, and houses for its people. What Roosevelt could not achieve World War II would achieve…it was a personal failure for Roosevelt too."
What's the deal with the comments? They show up, then disappear. You re-write – in this case a better reply – and as soon as it posts the original pops up. Oh well, it's fun regardless.
Amazing fact-less universe you conservatives live in. Thank god America is getting sick of you people.
Richard Armitage is a big fat blabbermouth but Bob Novak said his source was Karl Rove. Karl Rove said "Valerie Plame is fair game." It was Karl Rove who verified that Plame was a 20+ year undercover CIA operative. It was Karl Rove and Scooter Libby who called up other reporters to try to get them to blow Valerie Plame's CIA agent cover.
Oh wait, now I thought you conservatives said that Plame was just a low-level secretary, not a high-level undercover spy working on nuclear weapons proliferation. Dayam, you freaks of nature never stick to your own facts.
Three year old articles are all you have, Bunny?
Pre-Surge articles?
Sad.
What an amazingly current survey from 2006. Gee, nothing at all has changed in Iraq since 2006, has it, rabit?
If we want non-current surveys, hell, CNN even reported that in 2003 83% of Americans were "confident" and 65% "proud" of the War in Iraq: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/18/poll.wars/...
Undeniable truth, rabit.
– "Part 2 to the lovely, but dumb-as-rabit. "
Like most things, you're half right.
– "Get some facts, it was the CRA, Fannie and Freddie and the Dems clever scheme to cover up all the bad loans they made by spreading them out in the loan bundles they sold."
Since my last reply didn't seem to come through, how much of this money went through Fannie Freddie?
Answer: 200 million dollars
How much of this went through the credit swap market caused by George W. Bush's deregulation, starting in the first year he took office?
Answer: 60 trillion dollars
So, you're only 1/3 of 1 percent right. Which is probably pretty typical for you, huh? I thought math was prerequisite for a mortgage banker but I guess if it was, America would be in better shape now. hmmm.
You make the point of freedom of thought, why then are you so worried about this documentary attempting to show how the media fights against it. And if Gunner is stating a conservative view point in your opinion it only shows how far left you are.
Your are uninformed except for what you read in left wing media. I pity for you because it is small minds like yours that are first extinguished in a totalitarian Government.
You are funny though, as with all liberals you love to call people names which is the bastion of the vapid and vacuous.
Plame was never undercover.
Here's one from last month.
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=...
Bob Novak said no such thing. You again make up what you can not prove.
And again with the name calling. How juvenile.
This thread has been a perfect illustration of how leftists "debate".
A long string of ad hominem and strawmen with almost zero discussion of what the original post was all about (media bias and how it effected the election). Typical leftist distraction.
At any rate, on one hand I'm looking forward to this hitting DVD. On the other I'm sick and tired of being pissed off all the time and I somehow doubt this documentary is going to leave me less angry than before I watch it :p
I'm also feeling more and more that a very dark time is coming. The division and downright hatred I see brewing in this country is beginning to frighten me. I'm having a harder time seeing how left and right can peacefully co-exist in America (especially with a left that goes out of its way to abandon logic, reason and even basic human decency).
The lib media wanted Obama to be president. So ,they supported and shielded him and destroyed Sarah Palin by spreading lies , gossip and distorting of facts.
Sarah Palin was/is much more experienced than Obama and has , in contrast to Obama, a impressive record of accomplishment to show for.
But the main stream media has the power to shape the image of a person, so they made Obama " great" and Palin "bad".
And the lib media atacks on Sarah Palin continues.
It is very sad to say, but you can not trust the main stream media.
Period.
"Willing" isn't the same as "Wanting".
May I send you a dictionary?
"this is the new politics – all tactics and organizing and partisanship and power. No honor, no substance." absolutely agree with you. obama's all about the search and attainment of power, building on his experiences organizing a la alinsky and then going to harvard and into politics. what he and his backers are doing with that power hasn't been questioned in the MSM.
And for you too. Here's one from last month.
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=...
Isn't it a shame you conservatives are too lazy to use The Google? Got all your junk-food information force-fed and your brains atrophy, you lose the ability for contextual thought, and start blaming Democrats for everything that happened while republicans ran the White House and Congress – which is about a decade.
Gunnar, I'm taking it by this post that you're a "leftist" trying to disguise yourself..
Just as an eample: I keep waiting to hear conservative leaders offer real alternatives instead of politicking and but nothing is being said.
I take it you never paid attention to the "spending bill debate", in which the Republican leadership who wasn't kowtowing to Reid/Pelosi was _shut_ out of the debate, because they .. well, weren't Democrats who were going to "rubber stamp" what Reid/Pelosi/Obama wanted. So when they supply alternatives (such as the various amendments to prevent money from going to Casinos, Golf Courses, Museums, etc… ) it's just written
btw… Haley Barbour stated why he wasn't going to take the unemployment money offering in an interview on FOX… because after it was used up, there was nothing going back in to replace it, and when the federal govt wanted the money back, they wouldn't have that money to pay back the cash… he did state that they'd take money for special education because they would be able to pay that part back.
– "You make the point of freedom of thought, why then are you so worried about this documentary attempting to show how the media fights against it."
LOL, I never really said one single word one way or another about the documentary. You just made some crap up.
– "And if Gunner is stating a conservative view point in your opinion it only shows how far left you are. "
No, it only shows how little you know of what conservatism means. It has absolutely nothing to do with your opinion of Sarah Palin, or of any candidate in particular, or of your favorite color or the type of music you listen to. If you've embraced conservatism without understanding what conservative values really are, then it's about as meaningful as your favorite sports team, and you're just spinning in someone elses filth.
– "I pity for you because it is small minds like yours that are first extinguished in a totalitarian Government."
hahahaha! oh, how could I have missed this deeply fascist-loving statement. Let me quote it again.
pity for you because it is small minds like yours that are first extinguished in a totalitarian Government
Awesome!!! It's always fun to make right-wingers show their true authoritarian colors.
Actually, if you look at GDP numbers, the war rescued the US Economy, not the New Deal. Look it up, facts are pretty interesting things.
PS-What in BO's background makes you say he was qualified to be elected President?
Yes, he is currently popular but then so again was Mussolini. Then, well never mind.
The stock market knows the score, that is why it is in the tank and headed for zero.
Part of the problem was that Palin was introduced and thrown into the public / media square way too fast. Usually when politicians who potentially could become President of the US are introduced to the public with no time to get to know them they will be defined by the media and by those who dislike them. People will look at them with major scrutiny.
I say this as a liberal but also as a human being. This is the way people / critics/ media are.
Obama on the other hand was introduced to the public 5 years ago at the Democratic Convention before he was yet a Senator. He had years to build support. Palin did not.
Look right now at some young Republican stars. Jindal perhaps? He has time to get name recognition in a positive way. Even though he will be hated by some [all politicians are] in 2012 he could have decent support – like Obama did.
Nice try twerp. Candidly, the are ALL to blame. You think there really is a difference in Congressman or Senators. Gee, growp up. They are all taking out money and you thing President affirmative action is going ot be better>?>???
Willing for American troops to leave. Wanting for American troops to leave. If you are trying to play a game of semantics, you will lose.
Hey, BO was a state rep and then a less than one term Senator.
WHat more to you need to run the biggest organization in the world??? How about real job and a management course or two? Naw, he makes good press and is the right color, moca.
But at least Obama knows what he is doing and has the right people on the job.
Yep.. who better to run the Treasurey Dept than a Tax Cheat
Who better to run homeland security than someone suspected of having hired illegal immigrants…
Illinois politics at it's finest.. on a national scale.
You are kidding, right? Republican nominee/CEO? Bacon/Eggs, Peanut butter/jelly, Hello!
What are you? 12 years old? See response above.
Stop feeding the trolls – it's getting old and very boring.
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