Exclusive: Behind the ‘V’ Controversy
by Jeffrey JenaI missed the series premiere of “V,” but not the ongoing flap afterwards. The remake of the 1984 sci-fi classic seems to have hit a lot of nerves on the left and found an audience on the right. Left-wing media types are outraged that the series “degrades” the Obama administration, and some on the right are wondering if a Hollywood talent has been dismissed from his job for political reasons. As I write this, I’m watching O’Reilly go on about “the writers taking shots at President Obama.”
As it happens, I’m acquainted with Scott Peters who developed and wrote the remake of “V” for ABC. Mr. Peters was also the creator and executive producer of “The 4400” and a writer for “The Outer Limits.” As far as I know Mr. Peters has only made one mistake in his career and that was directing me in the low-budget film “Don: Plain and Tall” back in 2003. It was the story of my friend comedian Don McMillan’s life as a comic. I played myself in the film and the part was horribly miscast.
When I started reading some of the rumors and theories about Mr. Peters’ latest show and the behind-the-scenes politics, I laughed out loud. Let me try to shed some light on the “V” controversy.
The script was not written as a roman a clef or allegory for the Obama administration. The script was written by Mr. Peters during the Bush administration and started before Mr. Obama clinched the nomination. The author, Mr. Peters, is not some evil sleeper right-winger/Obama hater. Mr. Peters, besides being a talented writer and director is a gay man, legally married in California, very liberal politically and a dedicated supporter of the President’s campaign. If he’s a mole for some right-wing conspiracy he may be the most committed spy ever. Mr. Peters, who was born in Canada, recently became an American citizen; a process he tried to expedite so he could vote for Mr. Obama, a deadline he missed by two days.
Unfortunately for Mr. Peters, this isn’t the first time in his career that fans or critics saw things in his work he didn’t intend. Some fans of “The 4400” saw hidden meaning in those episodes too. At first, Mr. Peters would try to respond, but eventually he had to quit paying attention as the theories got more and more bizarre.
Mr. Peters’ replacement as showrunner by Scott Rosenbaum isn’t due to some political move at ABC. From reports I’ve received from informed sources, Peters is well-liked by the network. The show’s being produced at Warner Brothers and there appears to be some friction between the network’s vision for the show and Warner Brother’s. Mr. Peters’ replacement was being worked on well before the show aired and became a hit.
Sometimes we all, left and right, get it wrong. So next week just try to enjoy the show because to paraphrase Sigmund Freud, sometimes a TV show is just a TV show.
[Editor: This post was updated to correct a factual mistake. Mr. Peters did not donate to Barack Obama's campaign before becoming a U.S. citizen.]
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I was in love with Morena Baccarin until I realised that with her short haircut she looks just like Michael Cera.
Huh. Someone pointed out elsewhere on this site, The Twilight Zone piece I think, that Sci-Fi isn't inherently conservative however reality is. Go figure.
I think a more important point here – based on your comments – is that a show that would naturally demean the Office of the President while Bush is in office would be viewed as acceptable… and yet the same demeaning show aired when Obama is president is now suddenly recognized as disrespectful… the double standard was unintentionally exposed by the left themselves…
This is why I read stories but don't believe them… more often than not, the subject of the story is not the one making the comments, and therefore the validity of the story is suspect. Since Mr. Peters doesn't care to comment, as is his right, you're about as close as we'll come to the 'horse's mouth.' Thanks for that.
I didn't watch the 'V' premiere, and I won't watch the series, because, as I remember the original, it quickly deteriorated in quality and became a silly piece of crap, which I suspect will happen again. The internet bickering was probably more interesting anyway.
I'd be surprised if the "universal health care" line was part of the pre-Obama script though. It seems too tailor made to current affairs. And perhaps Peters didn't intent for the show to be a commentary on Obama, but I think it's safe to say that there was a lot there to grab hold of. Heck, I'm on Peters' side and I thought there were more than a few allusions to Obamamania.
How dare you Sir…how dare you.
I watched the V pilot and really enjoyed it. My fear is that it will soon morph into the recent Battlestar Gallactica (sp?) series – i.e. become more politically correct and thus a dud. Future revelations might include the fact that the V are here because of our involvement in the Middle East and support for Israel. Or, the fact that President Nixon secretly attacked their home planet in search of oil. Any other thoughts on possible leftist plot twists?
what is really the issue here is totalitarianism- of any stripe- is to be feared…
As far as the Obambots go- if the shoe fits wear it. If you see parallela between Dear Leader and fascist ET's than so be it, Mr Peters protestations notwithstanding.
Can't a gay Canadian (man, THAT had to be lonely) who wanted to vote for The One remake a fascist allegory without excoriation?
Then again, maybe not…
I wonder if Mr. Peters regrets his support for "the Messiah". Comparisons to the Obama administration were inevitable. Between the mind numbed supporters and the dark agenda the irony is truly delicious.
SQT… maybe they did change the script to include universal health care… maybe not. The "V" promise of curing all human medical problems was part of the original show from the 80's. However, if you want to read something that was written a long time ago but would seem as if it were taken from today's headlines read: Atlas Shrugged.
gee Jeffrey, way to go. There was a delicious little political controversy going and you come along with the truth and put the lie to it.
Seeing the zombie-like devotion immediately made me think of all of the empty-headed Obama supporters….. a brilliant if unintentional script Mr. Peters! LOL……
The fact that we now know any similarities were unintentional and just coincidence makes this all the more perfect, especially with the continued anger and bitterness from the left. It only proves that they now see an accurate reflection of their own behavior and aren't particularly proud of it.
Well, seeing as he also did 4400 (A great show – see it if you haven't yet) and the direction V looked top be heading perhaps deep down he is less liberal than he thinks he is. I spend a couple decades thinking I was liberalish…
As far as V – it was OK but part of what made the first show so great was the build up. The tension of the viewer knowing something was wrong but not sure what or how wrong. The building revolution against the aliens etc…
Most of all to me what was lost was my memory of the scene in the original when the kids were vandalizing the alien propoganda posters and he showed them how to do it right by painting the V on it – for Victory.
That moment was potently burned in my brain ever since I first saw it.
I'm going to assume its not the same Mike Cera who played drums for the band I hired for my wedding.
Yes, reality is inherently conservative.
When I debate social security (really, any ponzi or shell game created by Washington) I tell them put 2 cans of beer on their kitchen table.
Now take three cans away.
The left doesn't have a double standard. They can't count that high.
That so many would willingly surrender their freedom and trust strangers from nowhere to solve our problems, is truly absurd. However reality tends to be more absurd than what we find imaginable.
BTW I missed the premiere. Will the "V" appear as all racial types, or just smiling white people with devious hidden agendas? There's a real shortage of the latter on TV these days, they could use some more examples.
Your first statement has it nailed. To quote Sun Tzu know your battle.
That is the battle. Those who demand the supremacy of the state over the individual vs. the supremacy of the individual over the state.
Go individual!
That's why I stopped watching Galactica; too much left wing crap. Hollywood do this, Make movie where bad guys communists or radical muslims die after killing other good guys – make money. I'm certain you can push a pencil to fill in the gaps. Or do the A-Team schtick for the kiddies. I'm tired of watching reruns of Magnum and Miami Vice.
I do remember the original series has a lot to do with medical/technological breakthroughs and that the Earth's scientists were the main group targeted by the aliens. I just thought the terminology was too dead on to be coincidence. But hey, maybe it was.
I read "Atlas Shrugged" a good 15 years ago. I think it's time to dust off the old copy.
While the premiere was highly rated, I suspect this series will not be long-lived.
After all, if people want to watch an insidious group of freedom-hating, fascist-loving thugs
infiltrate America they can just watch the news.
Timing is everything…
If the intention was to release this when Bush was in office, as the first mini-series was released while Reagan was in office (and I suspect both were written as a statement of the sitting Presidents), then I would say there was a Plan. (Now I'm lapsing into BSG plot lines!) As I recall, everyone just loved V back in the 80's-with no objections from anyone about a purported vilifying of a sitting president deemed fascist by the left. Statement about Reagan? Highly likely… This incarnation a statement about Bush? Highly likely. The fact that it was released NOW…truly funny! God has a sense of humor! Let's just see what kind of adaptations are made to the plot–better yet: let's see how long it lasts. If the LEFT sees the comparison I think our job is almost done.
Jeffrey, since you know the writer so well, perhaps you could ask him a more pertinent question:
Why was the show so poorly written and directed?
Seriously, this 'reimagining' had more plotholes, inconsistencies, and inanity than your average Ed Wood flick. Calling them 'the Vees'? The lizards have been around forever, including a rampant 5th column, but there's no videos of them on YouTube (and none of them ever died, allowing a coroner to discover their real appearance)? Their skin grows with their bodies? They've been here forever, but couldn't put a plant in as a network news anchor, instead having to rely on convincing a human anchor to favor them? The meeting is raided by THREE VISITORS with no backup? They do skin checks on everybody, but the black guy works with them for years and they don't know he's a Visitor?
The list could literally go on and on – it was quite simply the worst TV sci-fi I've ever seen. And I am a big fan of the original, which had its flaws but which was overall a very well-structured story with great characters.
Whether it's intentional or not, the episode works as an allegory of the Obama Administration. Perhaps the administration could start acting a bit less…reptilian if it doesn't want to evoke totalitarian imagery.
I'm sorry, but she is so hot with that short hair that I'm willing to accept being in love with Michael Cera rather than give that up.
A-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
This made my day.
Eh, I still have a girl crush on her…. Just watch Firefly to off-set that realization.
As a non-fan of Cera's, I'm glad I don't see it. And as a guy. Heh.
I do agree that they probably changed the script to use those specific terms but the concept was part of the original.
Oh yeah. Dead on assessment.
You beat me to it. I was going to say that "you have to have a standard to begin with, in order to have a double standard."
The worst you've ever seen?? Clearly you haven't seen any the wretched t.v. movies regularly aired on SyFy. The level of acting and effects make "V" look like the original Star Wars.
I think a lot of people are like that. They call themselves liberals, but they live conservatively. I think that's Samuel L. Jackson. He calls himself a liberal Democrat, but he keeps guns in his house and teaches his daughter(s) how to use them. I believe he has complained about high taxes. These are people who share the common values of America but buy into the notion that the liberals have compassion and want to lift up the helpless. It's easy to be a liberal politician. "I want YOU to have FREE health care! I want you to have free prescription drugs!" Sounds awesome. But then daddy comes around and says, "How are we going to pay for all of that?"
They were going to leave the earth alone until we re-elected Bush in 2004, and that was absolutely the last straw as far as they were concerned. In other words, their invasion is really Bush's fault.
Well, they showed a whole crowd of Vs, but I wasn't really paying attention to what they looked like (except for the hot leader). I think there were five prominent ones, and they were all white except for one black V who is in the resistance.
I think it just happened to come out in the '80s. I don't think there were attempts to draw parallels to Reagan. I'm not sure any would really hold up.
They supposedly have been in deep cover for years. Anybody could be a V. One of the lead characters is a V who exposed himself at the end of the first hour as being involved only to help the humans. He really is an illegal alien who just wants a better life here in America than where he came from. And he's a smiling black guy.
You guys are both missing out with BSG, which is perhaps my favorite drama series ever admittedly. But watching the whole series, the issues are not as black & white as perhaps you both think. For awhile there though, I understand what you mean…however the characters & story progress, grow…The final season was some of the best television I've ever watched.
All types as there is =one black V, but he's also a 5th Columnist.
CSPAN
If you didn't watch, why waste space and comment on it? The first episode wasn't a "silly piece of crap"…
Sometimes, the truth hurts. It's high time the Left learned that. If they see parallels where none were intended, then what should that tell them about our current leadership?
Yeah Jed, The truth sometime has a way of being a lot less fun than making theories!
Good observation.
Joss Whedon is another one. He says he's a liberal, but his shows are far more libertarian than liberal, Firefly being the most obvious example.
Dear A
Excellent Witty!
If V was really Obama in disguise:
News anchor: "We've been following this story since the Vs arrived earlier today above the major cities of earth. Now, we're going to go live to the self-proclaimed leader of the Vs as she makes her first address to the people of earth."
Anna: "We had a really great flight out here, didn't we? I see Gorsnact is in the house! I'd like to give a shout out to you, homie! It was a long flight, but your star maps really came through for us. Alright, now why am I here? Oh, yeah! People of Earth! Sorry about your planes falling. Our bad. But, we have some really cool stuff planned for you."
Yadda.
Yeah, Joss once said he would not get along with Mal at all.
I've had the debate many, many times that realistically, deep down everyone is at least mostly conservative-libertarian. Especially folks like Joss and Scott (from the sound of it).
Yeah, but no one watches that news so there are no ratings there.
Don't kid yourself – Star Wars was really not all that well acted.
Fantastic, fun movie. But not all that well acted.
The first epi was actually good.I am an old school SF fan a s well,I like to discriminate on that subject.
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I'm glad I watched the whole thing too. The third season was a little rough, but the last season was fantastic.
The first few episodes of the original "V" were pretty good, too. But it did deteriorate toward the end of the first season and became ridiculous. I'm afraid that's what's going to happen to this version…it'll become another "Lost" at around the 7th or 8th episode and then you'll know that it should have been made a mini-series with an ending. Sorta like "Jericho"….the premise was great but the producers didn't know that it can't last forever, or beyond one season without getting stupid.
Eventually the numbers for V will drop and drop quickly.
That's one of the few scenes I remember clearly from the original. "For 'victory'. You tell your friends."
The character who showed the kid to paint a "V" instead of an "X" was old Jewish man who'd survived the camps, but whose wife had not. Kind of added an extra impact to the scene.
Do you think they recognize the blind adoration they displayed? I hope some of them do, and despise themselves for it. I'm just not sure they're that self aware.
Yep – that was the scene!
It was his family living in the garage to hide. Sadly again for him… Still one of the best, most memorable scenes I remember from TV.
If this version of “V” is suppose to an allegory of the Bush Administration it doesn’t fit. To brake it down to its most simple, and clichéd form, when the evil bad guys show up and secretly plan to take over the world they usually promise to ether, A: protect us (right), or B: take care of us (left). In “V” they clearly state that they are here to “help us”. Now, if the Visitors claimed they were here to “protect us” from some even greater alien threat, that would fit more into the Hollywood/liberal mind set of the evil Bush McHitler stereotype. As for Mr. Peters support of Obama, I have heard some Democrats voice their discomfort about the cult of personality around this President. I think you can support the President and still find the singing children a little creepy.
Considering that the original mini-series was based on Sinclair Lewis' "It Can't Happen Here," it would be impossible for there not to be metaphors relating the dangers of an initially socialist (and ultimately totalitarian) leader.
My God you're right!
No, the speech would have a lot more "I" and "me" in it. And more apologies.
Whether it's Shakespeare or Mr. Peters, the chronicling of the human experience in fiction always parallels the reality of the human experience throughout it's history. Mr.Peters may not have intentionally written his scripts to implicate the Obama administration, but blind adoration of any political leader in history has always ended in tragedy for humanity. It's simply intended to strike a chord within us.
Human history is the story of tyranny and if we don't learn from it, we are doomed to repeat it.
I don't know if the similarities with the present state of things were intended or not, but frankly, I think it's practically impossible NOT to read a criticism of Obama into the show, whether Peters intended it to be or not. I mean, regardless of how the phrase "universal health care" came about, people at ABC had to know that was going to get people talking.
Depends on if you're talking about the original trilogy (well acted, in my opinion), or the newer ones (noooooo….). However, maatkare is right in that "V," "Star Wars," and almost anything else would look good next to the made-for-TV movies on Sci-Fi.
Very true, which I was not really thinking about when I watched it. The only thing that stuck out to me was, why would you reveal so much in the premiere? I never saw the original, but apparently that one had a lot more suspense to it, as opposed to this one, which lost a lot at the beginning.
For those of you who missed the pilot (myself included), I understand it will be available for viewing in its entirety on November 9th on the ABC.com web-site.
As you say, I haven't seen those movies. I specifically watched V because I was a fan of the original and wanted to see if they could update it effectively.
But of course they didn't. The update was a complete botch-job, and what I found most insulting about it was the fact that all of their 'new elements' were stolen from other sci-fi stories: the new angle of not being able to tell the Visitors from humans was ripped from the re-imagining of Battlestar Galactica. The 'lizards among us' stuff was stolen from the David Icke conspiracy theory. They even lifted whole scenes from other stories, like the 'rebel raid' scene stolen directly from 'They Live'.
The writer just took a bunch of disparate elements from other sci-fi stories, threw them in a blender, and slapped the V label on it. This wasn't surprising, since it's how Hollywood handles all their 're-imaginings', but it was very disappointing. I don't expect this show to last.
Perhaps future episodes will show SEIU members beating up the Resistance and Acorn helping V prostitutes and pimps fund homes for all the V underage prostitutes they want to bring to Earth. Don't worry about rationed Universal Health Care with the Visitors. You'll be eatten long before you need that expensive surgery.
It may have been written during the Bush years but it hits too close to home right now. I wouldn't be surprised if Nancy Peolosi was one of them.
that's ok, whatever he intended when he wrote it, it is impossible not to see the similarity for those of us who are paying attention. We also study history and draw parallels with Hitler. When you see such an error of humanity sitting in the White House it is impossible not to think you are in the twilight zone.
It's funny … Aliens providing free healthcare. In exchange for food, you.
Proving there is no healthcare free lunch.
Is the Obama administration a scifi movie? They don't seem to be grounded in anything but mindless Marxist ideology. Probably haven't figured out that didn't work, missed the ending of the Soviet Union, and didn't want to ruin the fantasy when the Berlin wall fell — That explains why Obama didn't want to visit this shrine of freedom over tyranny. Obama will probably go when they build it back though.
Well, from Mr. Jena's writings above, it's certainly possible that the reference to universal health care was prompted by attention to the issue during the Democratic primaries.
The real question, though, is… if Mr. Peters wrote the script before the Obama Administration was installed, can he sue them for copyright infringement? Or would that be considered "fair use"?
I finally watched the new V this afternoon, and the so called "controversy" isn't nearly as bad as claimed.
It's a TV show folks. Not a great one, but it has potential.
"Perhaps future episodes will show SEIU members beating up the Resistance and Acorn helping V prostitutes and pimps fund homes for all the V underage prostitutes they want to bring to Earth."
Nice touch bbtadpole, very funny stuff.
Exactly. And the acting in the average SyFy movie is even _worse_ than that, IMHO.
Yeah, count me among those who weren't entranced. I didn't connect with any characters–Tough Mom! Angry Teen! Noble Priest! Man WIth Mysterious Past! Felt like they were running down a checklist. I suspect they'll get a pickup, but the news of changing show runners, long hiatus, makes me think we're looking at a "Southland" scenario unless the rating stay sky high for the next 3 eps.
For posterity, here is what I'm referring to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0hiw8iXdMM
The original tried to draw parallels to the rise of the Nazis. There was absolutely no connection to Reagan at all.
I wish I could give you ten thumbs up
It doesn't matter the origin or context, the fact is, it brings out the glaring similarities and disingenous actions and attitudes exuding from the White House atm.
This show makes people uncomfortable, because it hits home, hard, right now.
It's a case of guilty conscience on the part of the left and the media.
Taken by itself, the idea of a bootlicking media wouldn't be seen as disrespectful of a President, and certainly not Bush, since the left and the media went after him hammer and tongs.
A year ago, this would all be…drama, a device used to further the plot.
But Obama….Oh yes, things are different now, aren't they?
I am glad to hear there was nothing nefarious there. But let's hope the show doesn't start wimping out now.
Okay, now it's time for a compliment from me. Consider that routine stolen.
I think now what I thought then, that the politics of V are a happy coincidence and a commentary on people willing to place faith in things that look and sound pretty but have no substance. The lessons from the story would do well to resonate in the viewers, they are true no matter what the story.
If it happens to get under lib's skin, all the better
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Can you imagine the fictional U.S. President in V calling a press conference and blaming his predecessor for the invasion? Now that would be funny.
Am I picking up sarcasm? Heh. I tried.
The more I think about it, though, it wasn't really O's fault. He had to talk about that stuff before getting to the shooting because they hadn't updated the teleprompter yet.
I'm enjoying this version of V. The original scared the crap out of me (I was in 3rd grade) and I remember watching it avidly from behind the couch. (So the V's couldn't get me.
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While I'm sure I'll get more enjoyment out of the new one since I'll be on the couch this time.
As for all the hints and ideas surrounding this show I think it just shows how sensative the media and the Obama's are to critizism. They are starting to see it where none was intended!
That must be the "Change" they were speaking of.
Sometimes there is just a zeitgeist.
I had the best moment a few weeks ago. Watching TV (IFC) with a one of my Liberal Lady Friends, and an episode of The Whitest Kids You Know came on. I love this show; it's thinks its one the most irreverant sketch comedy troupes I've seen in a long while.
Anyway, they have this particular skit called, "I want to kill the President" – which is just a series of disclaimers about what youre not allowed to say about that topic legally in public. It's very edgy, possibly crosses the line in some places, and I hated it when I first saw it… but my liberal friend was completely offended. How dare they! That's not funny at all! They should cancel this show! How could you like this crap!?
Until I mentioned to her that that episode was actually two years old… the president in question was actually Bush.
(duh duh dum…) Blessed silence… "Oh."
Being liberal, I can't guarantee there was any self reflection on her part. But I felt pretty good, I really did.
I never understood why people think that BSG was leftie. There were definitely some leftie impules… and there was a weird point of time where it seemed to mirror Iraq in some ways (3rd season). But, tell me you didn't chuckle when Roslin outlawed abortion? Tell me you didn't get some satisfaction when all the lefties and former radicals (Tom) convinced everyone to "give peace a chance" and settled on New Caprica… only to have the cylons turn out to actually be enemies? There were certainly leftie themes in the show, but they all seemed to be dead ends… which says something in itself.
It should take no time at all for the network to reverse the course of the show and begin bashing Bush and all the "teabaggers"
Okay, so the one black "V" is a "good guy," currently all the white ones are scum.
Well, thanks for all the replies.
I thought it was illegal for foreigners to contribute to Presidential campaigns. Not that I have anything against Canadians but if what you wrote is true:
a liberal supporter of the President who worked for and donated money to the his campaign…….
……..Mr. Peters, who was born in Canada, recently became an American citizen; a process he tried to expedite so he could vote for Mr. Obama, a deadline he missed by two days.
Perhaps you ought to turn this over to Big Government for further investigation
James
I enjoyed your article but felt it important to write what I knew about this
All the best
Brilliant!
+1 to you!
Well, since the "outer covering" Isn't really the lizard underneath, I would suppose the V could choose or change ethnicity on a whim…
Clearly Earthlings are racist for not worshiping Reptilian aliens.
Reptilian Utopianist is an apt description for the Obamanots who promise the gullible what they want to hear, which is that they will get something for nothing, and only reptiles would make such promises.
SyFy movies are to TV science fiction
as The Star Wars Holiday Special is to the Star Wars franchise.
They are that bad.
I mentioned the same thing in another post about this topic.
The original V was an allegory about the rise of Nazism. The fact that the left finds such an allegory to be an indictment of Obama says a lot.
V is a plot line very familiar to Sci-Fi readers. Smiling aliens with nefarious motives. I've read hundreds of very similar books all following the same formula. Aliens arrive bearing gifts, people become enthralled, a brave few see the aliens for what they are……..YaDaYaDaYaDa.
Maybe the president should consider not act so much like a space lizard bent on world domination! If your administration is easily compared to a Sci-Fi storyline, you may have a problem.
Surely the fact that the issues WEREN'T black and white is what made it a left wing show?
Absolutely right JeffWeimer. Methinks the liberal media protests too much.
Roslin outlawed abortion because of population concerns, not "pro-life" ones. She actually says: "I've fought for a woman's right to control her own body my whole life." The point is that the human's situation is forcing them to do things that we would normally think of as abhorrent – suicide bombing and terrorism for example. But hey, it's nice that you "chuckled," at Roslin's distress at this moment. I's probably what they were going for.
Oh, and they weren't trying to "give peace a chance" when they settled on New Caprica – they belived that the natural radiation surrounding the planet would hide them from the Cylons. Incorrectly, as it turned out. I don't think Tom is ever interested with peace, with the Cylons or anybody else.
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Well. If the shoe fits,,,,wear it.
Maybe Mr. Peters MEANT to write it alluding to the current issues of our day. Maybe it was on purpose, his liberal politics not withstanding. He WAS a Canadian after all. Maybe he is just a former Canadian trying to save us from Universal Health Care. I mean, he did become an American citizen!
"If your administration is easily compared to a Sci-Fi storyline, you may have a problem."
LOL!!!! Good one Sergeant Relic!
Oh unless I'm talking about well choreographed light saber fights I rarely talk about the prequels.
And I also agree that most syfy movies are terrible. I haven't done any acting since high school (and that was some time ago) and I can blow them out of the water as it were.
There were some samples of good acting – Sir Alec G., Harrison… but then there was near everyone else…
Sir… look closely at the author's remarks — he is not saying that "V" is/was intended to demean ANY presidency, but is pointing out that it was written prior to the Obama administration and therefore could not be a platform for a right-wing reaction specific to Obama. Some might say that the political right has a particular penchant for reading too much into things and/or seeing what they want to see — which is clearly happening with "V" and also with your reply to the author's post. We should all read CLOSELY and scan LESS.
CSAT*
(coffee spit at screen)
funny
I want to be you when I grow up. This is not sarcasm.
If you seen her as the crazed, religious goddess-bitch of the universe in the final 2 seasons of Stargate (SG-1) TV show, would you still have a girl crush on her?
How ironic! Scott Peters, a great writer and ardent Obama supporter will probably be thrown under the bus because of unintended consequences of his storyline. The dreaded truth of this administration is so plain, lefties see it in the fictional account of 'friendly' occupation of Earth by aliens who really want to feast on the bones of the populace. They draw the parallel in 'V' so well it is amazingly paranoid. But isn't this typical of the obamabots?
Because the average viewer no longer has an attention span (see most complaints about LOST).
You pretty much have to toss out as much as you can get away with, or it'll get panned for being "too slow" or "too hard to follow" and viewership dries up overnight.
could not agree more…
that's because the difference between nazism and communism is minor. Totalitarianism is to the Left by nature…
I tried to tell you guys…this ain't what you think it is.
Maybe the guy's in the closet. Not about his sexuality, but his political views. I don't think Hollywood figures (especially non-actors) have ever had to worry about being of the wrong sexuality, but having non-left-wing political views has always been potentially toxic, hasn't it?
Another left-wing Canadian in the movie industry? It would be easier to relocate Hollywood north, and they are welcome to it.
"Left-wing media types are outraged that the series “degrades” the Obama administration,…"
They shouldn´t worry, the Obama administration needs no help in that.
Shudder. Don´t mention that. It´s cursed. Evil.
You mean LOST is eventually going to reward any attention span? I don´t think so. They are making it up as they go along, inventing one damn thing after another.
Could have been worse. He might have concluded "But enough about Fort Hood. How about them Yankees!"
If he'd said, "Take my wife . . . please!" I would have finally had some sympathy for him.
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If they were going to steal from They Live did they at least remember to pilfer the "I'm all out of bubblegum" line?
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