It Sucks To Be You, Dave!
by Jeffrey JenaI have had it with Letterman! I used to defend this guy to all of my friends who liked Leno better. I would say from a comic stand point that Jay was a great comic but Letterman was more original and had more style and class than Leno. Two recent events have changed my mind: Jay’s classy departure from the “Tonight Show” and Letterman’s classless left-wing attacks on the kids of politicians.
A comic needs to be an equal opportunity offender. We can’t pick sides in politics. We can have a point of view and a favorite but being a comic means when our guy drops the ball, you have to pick it up and smash it in his face. My friend and political opposite, Will Durst, said this a few years back about Mort Saul (I am paraphrasing here), “You can’t sit down to dinner with the Reagan’s and then pretend you’re still willing to sling mud at them.”
That is what is wrong with comedians like Letterman, Garofalo, and Stewart. They only see one side. Why do none of them at least give love taps to Obama? Why didn’t at least one of them make some comedic hay out of Obama gaffs like “57 states” and a reference to speaking “Austrian?”
The guy is the President and he can’t shake his mother-in-law and you can’t find a joke in that? Not one of these comics can come up with one joke about Obama like, “Since Michelle Obama’s mother is living in the White House, does that mean it is qualified as section 8 housing?” Or, “Did you ever notice that President Obama is like a televangelist, no matter how much money you send him, he still asks for more?”
So I decided to give Dave a send off with one of his favorite bits, a top ten list. Here are my top ten reasons it sucks to be David Lettermen:
10) In a few years his “baby momma” is going to leave and take half his stuff.
9) 30-year-old Alfred E. Newman look-a-like, kind of cute; 60-year-old Alfred E. Newman look-a-like, just creepy!
Held onto double-breasted suit look longer than Billy Ray Cyrus had his “mullet.”
7) Amount of Botox needed to smooth out face would kill a humpback whale.
6) Wanted to be racecar driver but couldn’t find crash helmet big enough to cover ego.
5) By the time his son graduates from college he’ll be dead.
4) Once his stalker got to know him she started following Leno around.
3) Has lower ratings than Glenn Beck or Bill O’Reilly.
2) Got passed over for Leno, O’Brien, Fallon, Kimmel, Ferguson, and Kilborn.
1) Three words, “You’re on CBS.”
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How about…
10. Promotes Stupid Human Tricks as a confidence builder.
You sit down to dinner with the REAGANS, plural.
That's all I have to say.
Another article in this site uses the word "let's" as a verb.
It's LETS. In fact, I can't think of a correct usage for "let's."
I like reading this site, but you need a posessives/plurals editor in a bad way.
PS
After the first hundred days..at least… you should be able to joke about Obama.
The offerings you present are pretty good…
Maybe because there's a difference between a politician accidentally saying something in a rush to be construed to think there's 57 states (which Obama never said, and no sane person thinks he actually believes)…
…and, say correcting a child in a classroom by saying, "No, there's actually 57 states," a la Dan "potatoe" Quayle.
Jeff – although one could argue the whole Letterman exposure thing is bordering on being overdone, your piece is funny enough to get a pass. Nice job!
Just for your own edification and please notice the nod he gives for the off camera verification…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
And just for the record, I don't have to get someone else's verification to know that we have 50 states…
Your link doesn't work, but you can youtube it.
Thanks for validating my point though. You can clearly see what he's saying.
Stuffnstuff,
President Obama said he had visited 57 states. See here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
and here
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp
It's not what he believed. It's what he didn't know.
I ask a 6 year old how many states there are, he/she answers without blinking, 50.
It's ingrained you as an American.
Hmm. The contraction of 'let us' is let's, as in, 'Let's get our facts straight before we point fingers.'
Can we all play, Jeff?
You know you're in trouble when James Lileks is mad at you. James Lileks for God's sake!
When Paul Schaffer learned what Dave had said in his monologue, he was mortified.
It's sad that the high point of Dave's show was Chris Eliott's "banana dance."
Dave's show's "home office" keeps moving to larger and larger cities.
Most of Dave's viewer mail is constructed from words cut out of magazines.
Unfortunately for Dave, the FBI reports that the incidence of rape has declined in the last decade or two. So there goes that demographic.
By the time you're Dave's age, it gets harder and harder to distinguish between 14 and 18-year olds. Since they all look like little girls, it's tough to be sure who you can tell rape jokes about.
Thank you. Thank you very much.
um, Bill, let's (i.e., let us) go to the woodshed so I can give you a can of whoop arse. Don't know the context of what you refer to, but "let's" for "let us" is quite proper usage, although you're certainly correct that the two are confused. My grammar pet peeve is using "it's" instead of the possessive "its" and vice-versa, and that can be seen everywhere.
Omigod, I digress. I wish I could make a joke of the recent photo of Øbama wearing the white cowboy hat. I cannot for the life of me determine the resemblance. Any ideas?
Am I the only one who can see someone making some serious money with Obama/Biden/Pelosi/Frank/Dodd/Reid, etc jokes? Man, what a treasure trove of material. Why no cable show right now with this? Red Eye is great, but it is on too late. Beef up Red Eye and put it on against Letterman, Conan. OH well, I can dream.
I don't know why the link doesn't work, but I clearly hear and see him saying (and getting off camera verification) that we have at least 57 states, but implying that we have 60. So what am I verifying for you that proves that he did NOT say this?
Wow I knew Jenna would hop on this bandwagon, seemed like his usual fodder material. Don't be jealous Letterman actually got somewhere from comedy.
When has Dave ever been classy?
Dave has never been original, the writers and performers who work for him had been, but they stopped being original even before he jumped to CBS.
Here's the thing, Letterman isn't funny. He lost his funny bone somewhere. His sense of humor lost its common sense. If he applied the Book According to Saul to joke writing, there would so much material from both sides of the political spectrum that he could just do a monologue. He's mean and he's passing up good material. Nixon was funnier.
There's the contraction "let's," ("let us") as in "let's go to the movies," and there's "lets" as in "he lets people in." Context is everything.
In the time it takes you to read this, David Letterman’s writers will have come up with two more unfunny jokes which he will poorly deliver before an audience of laugh-track sycophants, and all under his overly tired and hopelessly pathetic stature as a member of good standing in that class of media elites known as the “formerly hip, now just old and bitter” Truly a founder of the self-absorbed, and seldom hilarious, Drew Carey division of television comedy. But. hey, he’s quite the snappy dresser.
Of course the 57 states thing is an honest mistake, nobody believes he's that dumb.
The point however is not that he made the statement, its the total lack of media reaction to it (especially from the late night comics).
You know as well as I that if Bush would have made the same slip-up we'd still see the late night comics making jokes about it long after Barack's youngest has graduated from college (the fact that you're still referring to Dan Quayle's "potatoe" helps prove my point).
Stuff, the point is: 1) No one cut Bush or Quayle or any other conservative any slack when it came to a simple verbal slip-up. 2) There was a time when comics made fun of Democrat Presidents — it was OK to razz the Clintons, but this demi-god worship of Obama is just plain creepy, and the explanation cannot possibly be that there is no material there.
What about Pelosi and her animatronic like meltdowns, she should be a late night comedy gold mine.
Like Sheila stated above the Dems in general go untouched.
First off, Nobody was "attacked". Secondly Dems aren't joked about as much because they are more popular. If you guys were really concerned about this rather then just trying to cause a fuss, you would be able to ignore it.
First off, Nobody was "attacked". Secondly Dems aren't joked about as much because they are more popular. If you guys were really concerned about this rather then just trying to cause a fuss, you would be able to ignore it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
There was a left-arrow slash a right-arrow at the end. This version should work.
Follow-up: Yup, works now.
Follow-up2: Then after that Edit the site screwed it up. Should be fixed now (again).
there are 57 islamic states..the boy seems to say everything with a purpose…we are the largest muslim nation (cairo speech), I call it forshadowing.
What's worse is that apparenly there are 2 people that can't recall that we only have 50 states…
All else aside, the point I am trying to make is that he did say it. It's not made up, it's not a lie, it's not a vast right wing conspiracy. I know Obama knows that there are only 50 states. But to say that it didn't happen and that he never said it is just plain wrong. Which is what I want to get Stuffnstuff to admit. I know he/she won't because frankly they never do, but I have to try….
BTW – Thanks for posting the link correctly. I am "link-challenged"!
Okay, now it works.
Every watch Jay Leno's "Jaywalking"? There are PLENTY of examples of U.S. citizens incorrectly answering basic American history questions.
But, Barack Hussein Obama isn't an American because he still hasn't produced a long-form birth certificate and was educated overseas. And when he did return to the U.S. for his education, he received it at communist-friendly liberal institutions that are hell-bent on overthrowing this great country. Of course he doesn't know that there are 50 states in our union and doesn't care.
And way back then, it was actually pointed out on the news that "potatoe" was a valid alternate spelling from the dictionary, Quayle was technically correct. Best of luck getting that concession these days.
While you shall remain in the basement.
Nice assumption
I love that there are Computer Savvy Super-Heroes around to help with these things!
What gutless hypocrisy!
Letterman sneers sexist jokes about Palin buying clothes in New York. But Michelle glue-guns hair ribbons and party favors to her gut and wears it on the streets of London, Letterman doesn't say a thing?
This man is not just a coward to his country, he's a coward to his art. No self-respecting comedian would dare pass up a chance to poke fun at a First Lady whose face is so scary that small puppies are kept away from her. (Man, I just can see that tongue coming out and whap! Fido is missing.) Come on! Isn't ANYONE going to ask why the Black Widow still hasn't eaten her husband the morning after?
I imagine that he was either really disappointed when he found out that there were only 50 or he thought maybe The Evil Bush/Cheney Cabal stole 10 on their way out. to start their own Evil Bush/Cheney Cabal Empire…
This site wreaks havoc on links. I always have to post, then go back and edit the links so they'll work– and that doesn't always fix it. Annoying as heck.
If there's anything worse than a discussion board pedant, it's a misinformed discussion board pedant.
Apparently, he was talking about the 57 Islamic states. The "one left to go" is the United States he has envisioned for us where we all where turbans on our head. Not me, not without a fight.
Nonsense, Liberals aren't more popular, they just have more shills in the press and entertainment "covering" for them. It's like High School; all these idiots just want to be cool and popular and stupid people fall for it and vote Democrat. Unfortunately, there are more stupid people in the U.S. and the Dems take advantage of that fact. Kind of pathetic when you think about it.
BTW. The coming nuclear war in Korea, and another war in Iran, will be the result of putting a weak, indecisive fool like Obama in the White House. JFK gave us Vietnam, Obama will give us WW III.
Democrats just don't understand how to deal with evil. At first they appease, and then they overreact!
Dave is working hard on getting these great guests on this week to boost his sagging ratings: Gary Glitter, R Kelly, Mark Chmura, Roman Polanski and Michael Jackson. Should be a laugh riot!
I was wondering if Letterman was one of those guys in that Jodie Foster movie. Well, guess he is too old but he would have been first in line if he was younger. That is the type of Man he is.
I knew "potatoe" was correct. "Tomatoe" also existed.
But 57 states? Did the 'prompter slip up?
The biggest hum in this White House is the one between the Dali-Bama's ears. Until Soros starts to broadcast.
The delay in establishing the Digital TV over-air signal was preventing interference with the Obamabot.
I think people like you, who are counting on failure, should chill out
Time for ricky ross to do Somali cruise ships. Three hots, a cot, and all the pride he can swallow as a hostage.
I'm not braggin', but I just don't look good in burkas…they make my butt look big.
"Nobody" was attacked?
Calling her slutty looking, and suggesting her underage daughter was busy getting statutorially raped by an athlete, then defending himself,.. by never addressing the slutty reamark,. and simplying he meant the other daughter,.. you know, the one still in Alaska, and not at the game he refferenced in the supposed "Joke"
your defintion of "attacked" would seem markedly different than anyone who wasn't playing apologist for Letterjerk…
And yet…he's beating Conan in the ratings, even _with_the Palin flap going on, and CBS looks likely to renew him through 2012.
What is everyone so surprised about?Letterman treated his wife like a slut.He didn't marry Regina Lasko until years after he used her and after he had a kid with her.The guy isa self involved,pompous moron.
IMO it was a joke, not an attack. Same to Bill Clinton.
Care for the cheese platter to go with your whine, sir?
So, Dave made a half-hearted apology to "Nobody", right?
Democrats are SO popular…like ulcerative colitis. With similar symptomology and results.
Do you even PAY ATTENTION? Or are you too afraid to be charged by this Administration the proposed "per thought" rate?
Somebody please spot this hockey-puck a nickel.
Not to mention the attack on flight attendants!
He's too quick.
For now.
I am personally waiting for that "lame duck" moniker to start being used.
Its going to look like John Carpender's "The Thing" in the White House then…
Thank you!
It's not about if he know's we only have 50 states……….He said 57. It's a "Duffus" moment…..for christ's sake call the guy on it already………….
Ricky: You're a filthy little pedophile and I hope you die in a fire.
It's a JOKE! Get it? I can say whatever I want if it's a joke.
"Of course the 57 states thing is an honest mistake, nobody believes he's that dumb. "
Actually, at this point, we KNOW he's that dumb. In the begining we just THOUGHT he couldn't possibly be this stupid but so far the evidence REALLY shows Obama's ignorance.
"more popular",..
That is so arrogant it almost defies gravity,. while Obama's numbers are still high, try Pelosi or Senator (who?) Reid, the generic ballot is dead even,. Congress?… get a shovel, that corpse is a bit ripe.
Waaaahhaaaahhhaaaaaa!
Good. We can keep ol' Molester Dave around for the laffs.
Besides, I'll bet that's changing REAL fast…
That was without doubt the funniest mental image I've had in a while. Michelle Obama frog-tongueing a puppy. Priceless.
I'm sure there are a lot of people popping in to see if Obama's Court Jester will have the decency to apologize. But that is a short term gain and what he has done to himself is a long term problem.
Watch out! Too much common sense logic has a tendency to make troll's heads explode…
But then again…
I now have an unneeded mental image…and I've never even seen you!
They make everyone look wrong…like a drogue parachute over an F-111 escape pod…
I love that picture!
Dave, thinking to himself: "Did the suppository just slip out?"
Nah. He's still behind the microphone there…
So you're saying it DOES make my butt look big????
The fact that Letterman and his comedian compadres on the left can't laugh at Obama and his modern version of the Keystone Cops just proves that they never really had a sense of humor.
10. In protest of CBS, stopped trying to be funny in 1997, no one noticed.
9. After quintuple bypass surgery, discovered that he had no heart!
8. Misplaced humor bit "Big Ass Ham" found in his pants!
7. Still has violent stomach reaction to Doritos.
6. Used to play to college students, now prefers to play WITH them.
5. Got big laughs dropping watermelons from towers, now tries dropping bombs in his monologue.
4. Obama, Uma. Uma Obama! Ha ha ha ha, yeagh.
3. Primetime? Forget it CSI Topeka is on.
2. Lowest rated CBS show? Two words, Katie Couric!
1. Used to mentor Conan O'Brian, now gets schooled by him.
All of this will, unfortunately, blow over in a few days as the MSM either accepts Letterman's spin on his remarks or treats them with thunderous slence. [If Dave's ratings are to be taken as indicating both quality and public acceptance then the Fox News ratings vis-a-vis Fox's competition must be taken the same way.] I've enjoyed the contortions of Lettermans defenders. They all seem to boil down to "It's always cool to slam Sarah Palin so what's the big deal?" It was also nice to see Ms. Palin refuse to take the easy way out and go on Letterman's show so that he could "apologize."
Tenn. Jed
I'll accept your pass as long as it is accompanied with some Tennessee sipping whiskey
Vince
Your point is well taken. I am sure Mr. Obama was tired and I am also sure that he knows the number of states we have. The larger point is that when a conservative (ie George Bush ) makes some minor mistake or grammatical error the lestist media chants "Moron, Moron" for years. Please note the 20 year old Dan Quayle reference in these comments. Yet comics and journalist are not willing to a least admit that this double standard exists no matter how many examples you can point to.
We had a bust recently here in town – child porn internet trafficking. I sure hope they don't find old Dave's name on any of these sent/received files.
You think I whine, you heartless goons have been complaining about a joke for a week.
Nice comment about him an his son Jena. Very classy. Actually, if you put Letterman's net worth up against your own, anyone (particularly a Randroid) would conclude that it actually sucks to be you.
So Letterman makes a crack about a 14 year old getting raped (oh wait he meant an 18 year old getting raped, you prudes) and now you whine about someone making fun of him about it..wow every time I think liberals can't be bigger hypocrites you guys always prove me wrong. Actually the only thing lamer then Letterman is you.
Even with all that money (soon to be seized by Obama) Letterman still lacks class, and apparently, happiness. Just hope he doesn't pull a "Richard Cory."
The plural of "potato" is "potatoes". I'd call that an honest mistake…
Hmmm, now… is the plural of "50 states" "57 states"?
I speak Austrian!
Here – listen:
"Ah'll be bahck."
"A comic needs to be an equal opportunity offender."
No, a comic needs to be funny. Everything else is secondary, especially "taste." If one subject or viewpoint inspires his humor more than another, that's what he needs to work from. If your sitting around counting-out equal numbers of right vs. left jokes, you will not be funny. You will be a tool.
Incidentally, can I ask WHY Bristol Palin (the subject of the joke in question) is off-limits? Being related to a politician only makes you "hands off" fair-game when you're not a public or political figure yourself. The Palin kid isn't off minding her own business going to school and trying to live a normal life like, say, Chelsea Clinton or the Bush twins were – she's been a talking head on the cables, he's done interviews of her own, she's out public-speaking about abstinence, etc. She gets hers like everybody else in the business.
Save your energy StuffnStuff… These Republicans aren't bright enough to see your light.
We shouldn't give the Big Mocha a single quarter of sympathy or benefit of doubt on the things he says. Nothing he says is a mistake or because of an "off" moment. The 57 states faux pas?–A man running for President of the United States had better damn well know how many states there are!?
Conservatives are the best in offering the benefit of doubt, generosity to need, loyalty, and patriotism but it's those very traits the Leftist con job exploits. Mr. Letterman stepped over the line in a way that can't be ignored because this is the "model child" of leftist behavior that is incrementally ramping up around us. Their vitriol is getting more intense and seemingly with little consequence. Boycott anything associated with CBS.
Your description of Michelle's London "daytripping"outfit is too funny.Hey, Dave what airline could she steward on?Forget tv,I get my laughs on the internet.
He will now always be known as a PERVERT! Wow, what a career ender.
I think Letterman's audience moves over to the Bill Maher show and they all laugh at his lame jokes for an hour!
Bill Maher is a saint!
And the funniest of them all,Joe Biden,should produce some yucks.Every once in awhile they let him out of his"undisclosed location"….well, it was"undisclosed" until the idiot announced it to the world and we found out it is the rumpus room in the VP's basement.
Yeah, the Bush twins, you must have been living in a cave the past eight years they were being attacked, oops…excuse me, joked about all the time because they liked to party, they weren't out giving speeches.
As for Bristol, during the election she was a minor, she wasn't doing interviews and she was being attacked…oops again, joked about and she wasn't out speaking then.
Let's see by your standard Obama's children spoke at the convention and have spoken to the press when one of their parents were being interviewed so they're fair game, right?
As long as I can watch I don't mind… as long as it doesn't ruin my shoes.
#11 Thinks the sexualization of children is funny.
Who's bill maher?
Letterman's the real victim here.
Letterman's the real victim here.
If and when Sasha and Malia are A.) no longer minor children and B.) begin making public-policy declarations then, yes, they ought be subject to criticism like anyone else in that category.
I'll be Haydn!
(Get it? Bahck/Bach—Hidin'/Haydn! Huh? Huh?)
I am not surprised. Remember how ecstatic he became when the very young Drew Barrymore(speaking of slutty) lifted her blouse and showed him her breasts for a birthday "gift?It's just a matter of time before he is found hanging in a closet, clad in a fishnet body stocking,with the drapery tiebacks completing his"outfit".
Who's to say Jenna never abused a child?
Can you name one other person who can, 'in a rush', mix up the number of States in America with the number of countries in the Arab League?
It is easy to confuse the two when you're trying to please two Masters.
Product of public school are we? May I recommend a book to you. It's (IT IS) called the "Little Brown Handbook." It's (IT IS) all about grammar, and writing and stuff. It's (IT IS) sort of dry reading but there's (THERE IS) a wealth of knowledge in there. No let's (LET US) not correct other people's (belonging to people–possessive tense) grammar without first learning our own.
(Reposting my comment from Gateway Pundit):
Top 10 Reasons Why You Know You're In Trouble Over A Joke:
10. Have to send wife into bedroom first each night to check for moose head.
9. Les Moonves commissions poll to see public's reaction to late night host with Scottish accent in 11:30 p.m. time slot.
8. Ghost of Calvert DeForest can be heard laughing manically in main writer's room.
7. Fearful Madonna will try to avenge slur on A-Rod with steroid-induced attack during next appearance on show
6. NBC makes offer to rejoin network as Keith Olberman's substitute host
5. Controversy reminds key younger demo I am older than their parents.
4. Unfair criticism forces hilarious Trig Palin-NAMBLA joke to be dropped from Friday's monologue.
3. May possibly force me to fire my head writer, Andrew Sullivan.
2. In order to placate nervous advertisers, "Late Show" now originates from the Willow Palin Theater.
And the No. 1 reasons Why You Know You're In Trouble Over A Joke:
– Even after all this publicity, that red-haired dweeb is still ahead of me in the Nielsen Ratings.
Then turn out the lights, say your prayers, and go home!
He made a joke about Palin's daughter being raped? When? If there was ever an example of the Right living in a totally different world to everyone else then it's this assumption.
RAPE JOKE!!! OMG!! CUE BLUSTER AND FAUX OUTRAGE!
David Letterman was funny when I was a liberal Democrat. Since I 1) grew up, 2) got an education, 3) graduated from the school of hard knocks, and 4) became a conservative Republican I now realise that he was just merely being petulant and not as clever as I thought he was at the time. Poor Boy! Continually 8 years old with a dirty mind.
It sux to b blinded to truth, U.
And I thought since the Saviour made King of the World, we were supposed to be sharing the wealth now. Hmmmm. You are sounding like a capitalist, right wing, pig with the attack at Mr. Jena regarding his "net worth." How very conservative of you! Maybe Mr. Jena is worth more because he's a mensch!
No, a late night comic on a national television show is someone who, when the president or vice-presidentia candidate he voted for says or does something stupid, isn't afraid to treat them like a bunch of special education kids who can't survive being the butt of a joke for a night or two, and continues to either hammer away a politicians who have been out of office for half a year, or goes after one with mean-spirited attacks involving their children because the websites and papers he reads have scoped her out as the main threat to his candidate in 2012.
A hack does what Letterman's doing — which is fine if your goal is to work your way down to the alternative comedy club circuit or take Wavy Gravy's place if they ever hold another Woodstock up in the Catskills. But even the worst of the Borscht Belt comics up there were smart enough not to try an alienate 40-50 percent of their potential viewers every night.
I couldn't agree more with your brief, but very cogent reply! Your post makes me wish I had unlimited "thumbs up" usage rights.
Maybe you ate some bad lettuce.
He's a comedian, Friend of old Johny Carson who everyone here loves. And he's a person that got sick of being bullied by people like you. Add him to your list of enemys. Such hate filled people you are.
He's a comedian, Friend of old Johny Carson who everyone here loves. And he's a person that got sick of being bullied by people like you. Add him to your list of enemys. Such hate filled people you are.
Ya, that's tough when yuu get all "Mr. Smarty Pants" and screw it up doesn't?
Recently a Middle Eastern leader ( I believe it was Obama's new Islamic guru, the king of Suadi Arabia) mentioned the 57 Islamic states…hmmm…Freudian slip?
Dave been a waste of airtime for years…I've never found him to be particularly funny, that's just me, that doesn't mean he isn't funny. Or as you point out, at least his writers were good for a while.
I don't think an editor is a terrible idea. No need to pile onto Bill. He made his suggestion in a constructive manner.
You would go after Piper.
That's because he somd his soul to the left trying to get Stewarts demographic in late night. At least Leno tried to be balanced in his last days (kind of).
"Potatoe" is an older spelling that was phased out in the 20th century. Of course, there is no English czar in America so the correct spelling of a word all depends on the dictionary that you choose.
On the other hand, 57 states is simply wrong.
"Wow I knew Jenna would hop on this bandwagon, seemed like his usual fodder material. Don't be jealous Letterman actually got somewhere from comedy."
What an excellent retort to Mr. Jena's article. I like how you enumerated through each of his points and deftly defeated them through undeniable counter-argument!
"First off, Nobody was "attacked". Secondly Dems aren't joked about as much because they are more popular."
Best TROLL post in a long time. Well done!
"Actually, if you put Letterman's net worth up against your own, anyone (particularly a Randroid) would conclude that it actually sucks to be you."
Wow, another brilliant troll response to Mr. Jena's post! Mr. Letterman _must_ be correct because he has more wealth.
Since when did Obamanauts equate acquired wealth with correctness? I thought rich people only got that way by being evil?
the basic ignorance of the people on Jaywalking are the most powerful indictment of GOVERNMENT & NEA run schools that one can conceive.
sadly, Mike Judge's brilliant satire "Idiocracy" may end up being closer to reality one day that any of us can now imagine.
it isn't the joke that we have a problem with so much as it is the leftist entertainment culture that serves as an incubator for the kind of hatred and rage that would:
a) allow somebody like Letterman to make that joke
b) allow somebody like you to think its not a big deal
MovieBob
This just a symptom of a larger issue. In the past 8 years nothing was off limits when Bush or Republicans were the targets. It got pretty vile. The excuse we got was he was the President and they were just making jokes about him as they would any other president. Now behold and Obama is president and you can almost hear the crickets chirping. We got the very lame excuses of he was new and they had to "find" the humor. Please they had the knives out for Bush even before he got sworn in. What this is about is Letterman, Maher and Stewart clearly like Obama and what he stands for and hated Bush. But they refuse to admit it and hide behind lame excuses. That is were most of the anger comes from is they try to act like they don't have preference but they very clearly do.
douche bags have a patron saint?
yes the victim of his own liberal idiocy
Trolling pretty hard sparky? Are just shooting words out of your mouth randomly now?
So it's O.K. to make sexual jokes about a 14 year old girl? I always find it funny how you liberals move the goal post to suit you. So we can make sexual jokes about Obama's kids and of course you'd have no problem with it right? Sure.
Small correction. Maher is guy who tried to be comic and was in the comedy master piece DC Cab. After failing at acting and stand up he set himself as and "edgy" talk show host. He mainly shills for liberals and hangs out with strippers and playmates and convinces himself they hang around because he's so handsome and witty not because he has money. People like ricky watch him and think their edgy too.
I think you ate some lead paint
Not even making sense anymore. Were all the other trolls busy and all they could send out as their third string?
maybe you ate some lead paint…no …wait I'm sure you ate lead paint
I think the thread ate my post I'll try again
What this is about is comics like Letterman, Maher and Stewart hated Bush and love Obama. But they refuse to admit it. The last 8 years they went after Bush with every cheap shot and now that Obama is president we get excuses about finding the humor. Please they went after Bush even before he actually got into the White House. Their behavior over the last 8 years only makes it more glaring that handling Obama with kid gloves.
Yeah, he just got old and angry. He's everything dems accuse the republicans of being except he doesn't have guns and a bible to enjoy when things are slow. He really should get out of the biz and become a politician full time.
No assumption needed. Letterman gets his ratings by understanding his audience. You cannot tell a decent joke or even a wry observation. If you were even given a show, you would be pulled after the first night's numbers came in and they would fire whoever green lighted it. You will always be in the basement.
Secondly Dems aren't joked about as much because they are more popular.
Well, it's good to see that someone is keeping the crack dealers in business. Ricky, your point is obviously valid, since there were barely any jokes during the years the Republicans controlled the House and Senate (and Presidency). Quite the rocket scientist you are.
And yet another mouth breather who thinks old men making sexual jokes about children is awesome. You might decide to believe he was joking about the "other daughter" and was just to stupid to read the news about the A-Rod joke, but what's your reasoning for believing he was talking about Bristol when he joked that Sarah couldn't keep Elliot Spitzer "off her"? Let's see, neither daughter has been a prostitute, and only one was in New York. So other than your sycophantic defense of the man, would you care to explain why that particular joke makes sense about either daughter (or when any comedian has joked like that about a politician's child on National TV)?
He's the patron saint of misogyny.
Now you're just being silly. While we all appreciate it, could you go find a Liberal who actually thinks through his opinions so we can have a discussion?
He made a joke about Palin's daughter being raped? When?
If a man in his 30s has sex with a 14 year-old, it's statutory rape (I realize it's also your fondest wish, but that's another thread by itself).
He was referring to Bristol. He said that. Everyone with half a braincell could tell thats who he was referring to.
And no, I wouldnt have a problem with a joke made about Obama's daughters. Everyone's fair game for comedy.
I didn't find Letterman's joke particularly funny, but it's not worth getting all blustered and hot and bothered about it. OH NOES!!!! RAPE!!!
Oooo yeah….me loves to rape some little kiddies. OOohh, burn.!
Are you serious Des? And this comment got a thumbs up?
Uhh…no…you're just jealous because its YOUR WISH! yeah. Oh man, so burnt you.
As opposed the the Right cultures that calls to destroy and kill those they don't agree with.
Yeah, thats exactly what will happen. Any man would be ecstatic fi they saw a pair of boobs.
Your opinion of people is awesome. GOLD STAR! Keep it up you!
my personal favorites are those who correct us with "You missed the point", when the most perfunctory examination reveals it was they who missed not only the columnist's point, but then missed the point of the poster's response, as well. and it's usually over some ridiculously petty issue anyway.
then when they're called on it they respond defensively, haughtily, dismissively, or some combination of all three. i've learned you just have to let them have the last word and move on. DON'T FEED THE TROLLS.
and ever-so-helpfully demonstrated why it might be needed.
Excuse me? What comment about his son did I make?
They make Paris Hilton look like Rosie O'Donnell. Even Oprah could not do a makeover on her show that makes them look fashionable, at least not without getting a fatwa or three put out on her butt, which would still look big.
Well now, aren't you the prefect little snot!
ROFL
ALL I asked was: who YOUR saint was, and YOU jumped right in with your juvinile rantings like…. " add him to your list of enemys. Such hate filled people you are "
Pot meet kettle!
ROFL!
Not really fealing the "section 8 joke" The second one was funny though. How about a open thread for Obama jokes to see what everyone can come up with.
I thought the Liberals didnt want a big dick in the white house.
African American community wait 200 years for a black president and what they get? A half white guy that cant finish a sentence without saying "Ugh" .
Whats Obamas secret to living healthy? The dieting cook book "Eat the Rich"
Not the best but lets see what we can come up with.
Yep, like that former upstanding criminal who converted to islam to go and kill anyone wearing a USA army uniform out in public? You mean that kind of "RIGHT CULTURE"? (what ever the heck that is exactly….)
Your twisted logic is framing your stupidity nicely.
He also thinks that Mort Sahl is Mort Saul.
from Yahoo News photos slideshow of the recent D-Day events in France:
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/D-Day/ss/events/wl/...
good luck getting the link to work (this site tends to chop them up). try to find pic #57 of FLOTUS siting next to Carla Bruni-Sarkozy. we could have a caption contest if somebody can post the shot here!
"That is what is wrong with comedians like Letterman, Garofalo, and Stewart. They only see one side. Why do none of them at least give love taps to Obama? Why didn’t at least one of them make some comedic hay out of Obama gaffs like “57 states” and a reference to speaking “Austrian?"
Because they want us to believe Obama is brilliant and when he says stupid stuff like that, they are afraid we'll catch on that this empty suit with a teleprompter was educated far beyond his intelligence.
I would actually like to see Craig Ferguson take over for Letterman sometime in the VERY near future… I personally think he is more funny and would actually beat out Conan in my house…
tricky ricky ross, you're way too defensive about that old windbag making sad and disgusting jokes about a 14 year old girl having to have sex with a grown man.
Are you "registered" anywhere?
You know, like as a sex offender of children?
No, he was refering to the daughter that went to New York City with Gov. Palin…. He didn't even BOTHER to research which daughter he was cracking a "joke" on…. and what I love is that he can't even find something funny that he has to bring the Palin's back into the spotlight…. Can't find enough to complain about?
This obsession by tricky ricky ross with children and sex is definitely "beyond sick".
Speaking of speaking Austrian – a little sound bite for your enjoyment:
http://moviewavs.com/php/sounds/?id=gog&media...
I can only wonder how Dave would've reacted if someone had asked him how his old "knocked-up" girlfriend was when she was pregnant…..you know, the one he didn't marry till literally years after the birth of his son. Instead all he got was back-slaps and surprises that he could even father a child, or would finally be so brave as to give it a try.
Love that "Big Mocha" reference. Terrific.
Bill Maher was actually VERY critical of Obama recently on his show, saying "this is not what I voted for", and likening Obama to Lindsay Lohan, or one of those Hollywood hags. I did not see the show, but the reporting of it was quite the nasty incident at the Huffy Pot. Some of the drones did not like it at all, and some actually agreed. I think some of the Kool-Aid is rapidly wearing off. It was a fun read. Good times….good times.
This wasn't criticism of Bristol moviebob – it was a line about A-Rod banging their daughter. Not only did he have the wrong daughter in the joke, the joke was not really funny. No, he didn't use Willows name – but the insinuation was the daughter who was at the game with Sarah Palin. Yes, I do believe he meant Bristol – however at that point I have to ask – how do you screw that joke up? The Palin's have been a target of the media establishment, whether deserved or not for the last 10 months – hell, I know more about Palin and her family than I do about much of my own family. What is funny is that I know less about Obama than I do about my neighbor who just moved in last week.
Again, please note the difference between criticism and blatantly classless jokes.
I always love those "Scanners" moments.
Chris Elliott's banana dance? Don't tell me you've forgotten about The Fugitive Guy, The Regulator Guy, Chris Elliott Jr., The Guy Under the Seats (my favorite), et al…
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Just wondering when Letterboy got "passed over" for Kimmel, Fallon, Kilborn and Ferguson (though it may be only a matter of time in the last case)- as opposed to the first two…
Well, thats a good point, and if Obama was American he'd know that.
Lettermans problem, like other smug former class clowns, is that he hasn't been knocked on his ass in a long time. It's a good learning experience when you're too clever by half. Todd Palin should invite HIM up to Alaska for a walk in the woods.
"[U]ntil years after he used her?" Used her? Is that how you think of relationships? A man "using" a woman? Because that's disturbed and disturbing. They met, fell in love, and moved in together. Like, you know, millions of people do. They lived together for more than 20 years.
You have some sort of serious issue with your view of women and relationships.
Agree with TSS1. Deal with it the old fashioned way. Todd Palin should punch him in the nose!
When exactly was Dave 'passed over' for all those people? Including people who… work for HIM? What is it with the columnists on this site and their ignorance and, worse, lack of fact-checking?
Also, he'll be dead when his child starts college? Lovely, that's that sparkling, non-offensive wit you're clamouring for, is it?
Since you apparently just type random spew without any actual knowledge of… anything, his "baby momma" is his wife, they've been together over 20 years; he wears mostly single-breasted suit jackets, though he does still sometimes wear the classic double-breasted jacked, and sometimes also a vest (shoot him, he doesn't dressup to play pretend Texas cowboy on his off days).
I'm going to guess he didn't make a 'section 8' joke about Obama's mother in law because Dave isn't a racist dumbass. Unlike… well…
I used to think conservatives just had different viewpoints. The more I read, the more I get they just have lower IQs. Seriously. From Palin herself to the idiotic joke flap, it's just … sad.
The reason Letterman, Stewart and the rest don't make jokes about the President is because they can't. They are the 'house band' for the left. If they get out of line, they'll be shown the door, and replaced by another comedian who "remembers who brung 'em to the dance."
Normally I would expect an entertainer to seek out the highest ratings no matter who appreciates the act. These guys only seek approvals from one half of America. How they stay on the air is beyond me. Can some one in the business explain how these guys get enough ratings to survive while alienating half the audience?
Re the photo of Obama in a white cowboy hat, you're thinking Cleavon Little as "Bart" in Blazing saddles, I'll bet!
I'm perfectly happy to go with the 57 states thing, but the clip suggests he really thinks there are 60. He says he's been to 57 with one more to go, but excludes Alaska and Hawaii from the total. What (and where) were these other 10 states?!
Exactly! Good on ya!
I don't buy the "he was tired" excuse. I think he was daydreaming about the seven extra states he's going to create in Democratic areas with the help of ACORN census-takers and a bunch of stimulus money.
Please let's have no mention of a Burqa fashion show on Oprah!
Who would make the burqas? Coleman? The North Face?
I have been saying for awhile now that our species is never going to make it to the space colonization stage given our current idiotic path. Not when we promote mediocrity.
Bye-bye, Mars! See ya, interstellar travel!
Yeah, come on Zohan. We all know that we have the Bush administration to blame for all of this. We conservatives just aren't as popular…We should just forget what we are seeing, and stop interpreting it for what it is. If we pretend we are in a world of rainbows and hope and change, like the liberals do, we will be just fine under sharia law.
The Freepers and AOS morons and Hillbuzz are launching a boycott of Dave's advertisers. 30 Days to make Dave pay.
http://hillbuzz.org/2009/06/10/how-to-write-to-co...
Protest Dave today
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2270...
Hey Bill,
You better not read the comments on YouTube. If you think it's bad here (not that I think it is), the illiteracy of YouTube will give you a brain hemmorrhage.
The fact is they DON'T get the ratings. But the television media that present them don't want to dump them or are afraid to.
clearly it was all in the name of trying to trump o'brien's arrival. the entertainment biz is transparent yet thinks it's opaque.
You're right on, BevfromNYC. That's the same combo I came up with.
Obama said, "I've now been in 57? States, I think one left to go … one left to go, uh, Alaska and Hawaii I was not allowed to go to, even though I really wanted to visit, but my staff would not justify." So, to clear things up for our resident troll, Mr. StuffnStuff, Obama really said those things.
So, Mr. StuffnStuff, with the 57 states Obama went to, and one left to go makes 58 States plus the two States he was "not allowed to go to" means America has 60 States! Did Obama make a mistake? Yeah, probably. But he still said it, and went on to compound the mistake by adding 2 more States that he didn't get to see.
Yeaaaaaahhhhhh boyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!! That'll learn that libreal wuss- show him some frontier justice…YEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAA!!!!
I'd say more like the Shill Maher division…
I actually think Sarah Palin should go on Letterman's show, and rip him a new one in person. She's a master at those face-to-face debates.
He was/is quite a successful comedian. Unlike JJ.
If you actually watch their shows and not just pulled clips or point-missing "joke tallies" on the blogosphere, you'll find that A.) neither Stewart or Maher have EVER hidden their political preference and B.) both of them have been doing Obama jokes pretty consistently. Is there a different tone? Of course, but Maher especially has been critical. In fact, Maher even skips past the punchline and goes right into "dammit, Obama, you're letting me down" mode lately – and then complains about his audience not wanting to hear it.
I see a look in jenna eyes, and it's hungry for children.
If you think they book quests a week in advance, good luck to you.
Also Palin going out in a flame of glory.
"Yes, I do believe he meant Bristol – however at that point I have to ask – how do you screw that joke up?"
Quite easily. Letterman's "topical" jokes aren't Daily Show style snarky-dressing-downs-for-dedicated-cable-news-addicts, it's broad reference-laden stuff for folks who MAYBE caught the Evening News before his show. It's one of his standard bits: Made-up retelling of well-known backstory for the celebrity in question – "her daughter was knocked up" – followed by one of his run-into-the-ground references of the moment – "by ALEX RODRIGUEZ!!!!" Youtube some of his early-90s stuff and you'll see the same bit: "so-and-so is dating so-and-so…" with punchline: "…BUTTAFUCCO!!"
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This site also suggests pressuring companies who advertise on the show and provides many many contact names, phone numbers and email addresses for those who want to threaten a boycott.
I love this!
Yeah because Obama your letting me down is the same as the vicious stuff they pulled on Bush. I suggest you review the last 8 years and see if any of the jokes about Obama are anywhere near the level of hate behind them with Bush. Both Maher and Stewart have self inflated egos they want believe they are important commentators on the scene but when they get called on it for stepping over the line they hide behind .."I'm only a comic" excuse.
You don't need to give me background on Letterman. I was a big fan back in the 80s. The show had a tone that wasn't seen at the time. Dave knew it was 12:30am and his view was who the hell cares what we say or do? Plus back then he lampooned movie/TV stars who were used to being pitched friendly softball questions. Now he's completely lost it (which has been a process of the last 10 years or so). Do you remember his segments on Bush misprouncing something? Compare that to his cranky whine about giving Obama a break for reading a teleprompter. True as you might after the last 8 years you and the other liberals have no defense or excuse.
Really? Yeah I guess DC Cab was a huge hit. Funny you knock down Jenna but ignore Maher running to Politically Incorrect after his stand up tanked. Face it if he stayed with stand up would anyone really know him?
But he specifically mentioned a possessives/plurals editor, thus must be a fan of bureaucracy to contemplate such fine-tooth distinctions. Besides according to the proper English I recall, the plural form of Reagan, being a proper name, would be Reagan's, apostrophe s, to avoid the unsightliness of either mangling said name by the normal rules of constructing plurals or having one that violates such. Therefore there was yet another fail on the use of "apostrophe s" within his reply, so "piling on" is indicated as a remedial instruction aid.
I mean, really, here he is acting superior and criticizing others while merely displaying his own ineptitude. Who does he think he is, the President?
Sorry that's Letterman your seeing, common at least make it fun your not even sport troll boy
How about you chill out dick weed, we listened to your drivel for 8 years and that was with a successful administration. Get ready for twice as much criticism from Conservatives in 4 years with the failure of a socialist like PEBO.
But you and I both know…o.k. maybe you stuck in liberal zombieland wouldn't..that Letterman would never make a joke about Obama's kids because he worships Obama and hates Palin because she is a threat to his god
So now your offended? You are the ususal liberal, anything you guys say is fine and everyone is overreacting and free speech but we take shots at Letterman that aren't worse then his crack about a 14 year old getting raped and suddenly your outraged. Just proves liberal love to dish it but can't take it.
Again it would help if you reply had anything to do with what was said. Actually I can't stay too mad at Dave I mean I think we should write him a nice note for helping Palin get elected President
here's the link to it, it's actually an op-ed piece
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la...
It's not quite the dressing down you think it is. Maher is still firmly in Obama's orbit. He takes all the usual shots at Republicans. What he's really whining about is Obama shouldn't be on TV as much and should be more bold about getting his agenda through. Of course what's really funny is his crack about Republicans being the main force to get Obama elected again. What he can't see, because he's blinded by the ones radiance is that the likes of him and Letterman are doing the heavy lifting on a GOP comeback.
"5) By the time his son graduates from college he’ll be dead."
That one did seem a bit of a clunker to me, to be fair. It could have been improved by adding "…(comma) at least to the entertainment industry. He's already gotten a good head start." Otherwise, by statistics you will likely be proven right, but it did have a touch of meanness to it. Not the same as saying a "slutty flight attendant" has a daughter who (pick one) was statutorily raped by a professional ballplayer (which should be somehow funny) or was either being "slutty" and/or raped by a professional ballplayer, but still…
I hate explaining my jokes but I will, this is actually a line I use about myself from time to time . Being a older dad it means that I was so old wen my son was born that I will be dead by the time he graduates from college!
No slam on my son when I say the line about myself.
Really Ric? Calling me a pedophile? That is the height of your wit? You're pathetic!
"(or when any comedian has joked like that about a politician's child on National TV)?"
Damon Wayans had a televised standup bit during the Clinton years where he imagined Bill saying "between White-Water and Ugly-Daughter I almost didn't get elected."
To clarify the original complaint concerned "him and his son." And hey, you have nothing to prove by me, Letterman has done far worse. Just doing my part to enforce the "double standard," we have to be the "Nice Guys" to show certain complainers there IS a difference.
Yeah that makes up for everything in the past 8 years plus. What you don't want to admit is it's not only about these guys being liberals and not admitting it is they are using their shows to push their views on us, I'll even given more leeway to Stewart and Maher since there shows are political but even they are dishonest as to the extent their own views influence them.
As I've noted on another thread with Ricky trolling on it you just witnessed his grade A stuff.
Hey rick, I got your mom over here while I type, and she's hungry for something else.
You can take it, right? It's just a joke.
Yeah, good luck with that.
The Top Ten Reasons It Sucks to Be David Letterman
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeffrey-jena/2009/06...
Bush = 8 years of no terrorist attacks and war won.
Obama= Biggest debt ever and grovels to world, trashing Bush on the war then continuing his policies.
Yeah one compared to 8 years of Bush is Hitler and wishing him dead. It was made by another liberal so they get a pass.
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1. Not all of us are Republicans.
2. Is there also something about StuffnStuff's clothing that only "bright" people can see?
I'm really entertained by all the outrage over Letterman from the same folk that are always lamenting the need to be politically correct these days.
Funny we can't blame Clinton for his ignoring everything like, the World Trade Center being attacked once already and a Navy destroyer but we can blame Bush? Nice liberal logic. At least Bush had enough class not say anything about Clinton which can't be said for the Obama who thinks he's a lot smarter then he is, oh I see why you like him.
Sorry sparky I was around when Letterman started and when he was funny, which hasn't been for awhile. So if they go with the wind in then 2004 when Bush was reelected and Republicans in control they stuck their fingers in the air and said gee that must mean we should jump onboard with Bush and the Repulicans, please, kinda kills your little theory.
Careful your smugness is getting out of control. oh and giving me all the little thumbs down really hurts. Liberals wouldn't say anything about him because of it yes, wow, you got me wearing the sheet and hood.
Since the majority of black people did vote for Obama because of that I say it's a good chance.
Bill sounds like one those people who say, "between you and I," thinking it makes them sound intelligently high-browed. Great post, Joan.
The Burqua makes Lindsey Lohan's butt look big…
Letterman? Class? Where have you been?
I used to watch Letterman in the 80's when I was in college. I drifted away after graduation, and some time in the late 90's tuned in to see what he was up to.
What I saw was an aging, angry, mean spirited old fart who was no longer funny. I felt sorry for him.
And that was when I was a liberal.
How's that slutty mother of yours doing, ricky? Too bad she's not good looking enough to qualify as a flight attendant.
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