Enemy of the State? Me?
by Jeffrey JenaWow! Here is what I did today. I taught my comedy writing classes, I went to the driving range and YMCA with my son, and I worked for about four hours on a new web site I‘m helping to launch. Let me see was there anything else? Oh yeah, I became a dangerous potential terrorist and enemy of the state.
Gun Owner
How did I become more dangerous to America than an Islamic fundamentalist with a vest full of C-4? It was all my fault! You see, I was so worried about Big Brother I didn’t see Big Sister sneaking up on me. Janet Napolitano has declared that a lot of Americans who are only exercising their constitutional rights are a danger to the country.
After six years of hearing the liberals in this country cry about how the evil Bush/ Cheney cabal had infringed their civil rights we have change. Our new administration is bringing us change we can believe in. They would rather spy on conservative Americans than offend Europeans or the King of some third world country. They would rather infringe upon my God given freedoms than offend the Castro brothers.
For this article I Googled both the Bill of Rights and the explosive C-4 so I am sure the alarms are going off at Homeland Security right now. Some right-wing extremist is hard at work!
Here’s the deal Ms. Napolitano, if you want to spy on me come to my front door. Ask me some questions and I will admit everything
Yes, I own guns, I support pro-life groups, I think people who break the law to come here should be shown the door, no matter where they came from. I really don’t give a rat’s backside what anyone in Europe or Asia thinks about my country. I believe in the Constitution and if you don’t then change it by vote of the people and not by back-dooring me with economic stimulus programs and activist judges.
You want to hear something I believe that will really scare you, Ms Napolitano?
Here it is:
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it…
I wish I would have written that, Thomas Jefferson did. I think he owned guns too. Maybe he’s on your dangerous right-wing nut-job Enemies of the State list too.
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When did conservative patriotism become a threat to National Security? How did it?
People may not like it but to take this type of belief and call it dangerous is amazing to me.
On a side note, When was the last time any of you really cared who was elected Presidet or Prime Minister of a foreign Nation? Do any of you plan on comming to hear a speech at a huge rally by any of them? Why does the rest of the world care so much about Obama? I could give a flying fig about their leaders.
But they are such experts at back-dooring. The hand on your shoulder is just their way of saying "trust me".
The document about left-wing Extremism (Google "vaunted Left-Wing Extremism Report" with quotes) only names specific groups and threats.
Yeah, this "Right-wing Extremism Report" is aimed at those who merely disagree with the Obama administration, not those who commit violent acts of terrorism.
Strange how they bow and scrape for Western Europeans and Saudi royalty, yet curse American citizens who disagree with them to the bone?
Of course, the Left can only support any crackdown on right-wing speech. After all, Bush's wiretaps were bad not because of potential for abuse (that's what I believed, so I mistrusted the wiretaps), but because they were being done by a right-winger.
The document about left-wing Extremism (Google "vaunted Left-Wing Extremism Report" with quotes) only names specific groups and threats.
Yeah, this "Right-wing Extremism Report" is aimed at those who merely disagree with the Obama administration, not those who commit violent acts of terrorism.
Strange how they bow and scrape for Western Europeans and Saudi royalty, yet curse American citizens who disagree with them to the bone?
Of course, the Left can only support any crackdown on right-wing speech. After all, Bush's wiretaps were bad not because of potential for abuse (that's what I believed, so I mistrusted the wiretaps), but because they were being done by a right-winger.
In that case, sign me up as an EotS too!
http://lonewolfarcher.blogspot.com
Good one! If that's what they think, then their list of enemies is going to be so long what else could they do but proclaim martial law.
I have guns and I support right to life groups and I want the government to put an end to illegal immigration (or at the very least stay out of the way of those who DO want to protect our borders).
I also believe in states rights and Thomas Jefferson is one of my favorite writers. If that makes ME an enemy of the state, then I'll wear that moniker proudly.
How about left wingers killing un-born babies. Are they on the list?
I thought that hand on the shoulder was misdirection – take your mind off the other hand fishing for your wallet.
The only way to reverse the statist trend is to repeal the seventeenth amendment, which would decentralize a lot of the power that has coalesced in Washington. Since there would be less power, there would also be less corruption.
Domestic right wing terrorist speaking, these idiots in Washington firmly believe that Conservative Republicans who believe in (such as myself) a limited government, our constitution, in life, strong borders, the Iraqi and Afghan wars, are more dangerous then the terrorists who killed 3,000 Americans on 9/11.
Excellent point.
I want to be an EofS too! Where do I sign up? I think I will give my Congresspersons my name, address, and phone number so they can find me when they need to. It will save time and money and they won't have to guess.
Perhaps we should tell Napolitano we're all illegal immigrants or undocumented migrants (whatever the latest politically correct term is), then she would leave all of us alone.
You pro-freedom people are paranoid. If there's one thing that we know of Obama from his history and his statements, there has never been a president so dedicated to individual liberty as he, and no president has ever surrounded himself with such a zealous bunch of libertarians as he has.
On Bizarro Planet, that is. Here, we're screwed.
Oh no no no. The misdirection comes when at first you feel breasts pressed against your back. Either way they're digging for gold and it's gonna hurt the next morning.
I am thinking that the next proper term for illegal aliens will be "de facto voters"
I think some may have missed your punch line. I agree. Unless we do something about it "here we're screwed".
You are absolutely right! I have the same beliefs, I own guns, and I am a military veteran. I guess that makes me a dangerous enemy of the state also.
Man, the only thing I enjoyed here more than that excellent piece are the comments! Fantastic.
Now, if we could just clone Mr. Jena AND all of you!?
I hope you'll all reading the REPORT….your name's in it there along with mine. This is scary stuff, folks.
We're going to have to do MUCH more than Tea Parties… Did you hear Bob Beckel say "It's a good thing they're not VODKA PARTIES, because those people have GUNS!"
Typical, huh? z
……me too, me too, I wanna be on the list. I will consider it an honor. Oh crap , I'm Libertarian. I guess I already am.
No, they do it in the name of "women's rights," so that makes them okay and good, wholesome Americans.
It became a threat when conservatives started bombing abortion clinics and federal buildings after they were voted out of power. Now that you are out of power again, you can bet that violent actions are being plotted against the US right now.
Your beliefs are dangerous because you advocate violent use of force against your own country (citing the founding fathers) when you can't get your way in a democratic fashion. Couple this with a dangerous dose of religious extremism and you have the ingredients for terrorist activity.
Please tell me how advocating the overthrow of a democratically elected American president is patriotic. I think you and Mr. Jena need to learn what living in a democracy really means. You sir, are no patriot.
What ever Bush did, he did for the security of the country. These new constitutional violations by the Obama administration are being done political reasons. The memo is simply stating the Obama administration is using law enforcement against their political opponents.
Janet Napolitano is Obama's Janet Reno, and she'll find her Elian Gonzalez and her Branch Davidians, just you wait and see.
My favorite is Paul Krugman's editorial in the NYSlimes..er..Times.
"…They’re AstroTurf (fake grass roots) events, manufactured by the usual suspects..And the parties are, of course, being promoted heavily by Fox News."
I put the link so that all can read the whole screed.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/13/opinion/13krugm...
wow, you read my mind, you sir are indeed amazing.
Please tell me more about who I am and what I believe.
Pot, meet Kettle.
You will be happy to know that the Texas State legislature and Gov. Perry just passed a bill affirming the soveignty of the State of Texas under the 10th Amendment –
Statement from Gov. Perry 4/9/09
“I believe that our federal government has become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of our citizens, and its interference with the affairs of our state,” Gov. Perry said. “That is why I am here today to express my unwavering support for efforts all across our country to reaffirm the states’ rights affirmed by the Tenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. I believe that returning to the letter and spirit of the U.S. Constitution and its essential 10th Amendment will free our state from undue regulations, and ultimately strengthen our Union.”
"The Tree of Liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." Some of our uninvited guests seem to think that means we're ready for an armed rebellion. We're not—yet. So long as democratic institutions exist and the will of the people elects people like Obama, we will keep our own counsel and attempt to persuade the people that they have been wrong. What the author, and Jefferson, said is a warning of what we are willing to do if Obama and his gang continue to try to whittle away our right of opposition. So far, they have only pointed the way. If they ever act on their instincts, we will be ready. And we won't need nutcases like Timothy McVeigh to guide our way. We have those Founding Fathers and The Declaration of Independence, and a whole lot of others to guide us, whether the Obamists like our taste in literature or not.
Bev, thanks, but I swear I can't read his (@*$&(* anymore…I have one foot on the ledge up here by my window already, anyway! (Smile!!) (ya, I WILL take a peek..thanks for going to the trouble)
Thanks for that quote…See? it's Saul Alinsky ALL OVER THE PLACE! Read his 'rules'….our country's being run by them now. They seem to have supplanted the Constitution..!! Or at least ETHICS?
We're so losing it lately! Do you know that there's a PUBLIC high school in NYC named for avowed socialist Norman Thomas? What the..? PUBLIC, I called and inquired!
So, yes…we're the FAKE grass roots people, the "usual suspects"…like McVeigh and Ruby Ridge's bubbas……. welcome to our new world (order!)!!
anitfascist,
See I think we can all agree that anyone who bombs abortion clinics or federal buildings are dangerous and must be stopped and prosecuted. You are missing the point (deliberately I think) that Napolitano is lumping any conservative in the same pile as Timothy McVeigh. It is just as preposterous for "progressives" to couch reasonable dissent as "dangerous" as it is for conservatives.
Well, it's official. The newly elected government has classified me (a veteran of the Vietnam War Era) and my brothers and sisters who have honorably served in Iraq and Afghanistan as potential right-wing extremists. I suppose I'll have to register somewhere as a "potential right-wing extremist." Good going, Obama. What an administration. You can really pick 'em.
Janet NoManAtAllo was a disaster for Arizona and now has an entire country to destroy thanks to her bud Obama.
All this lingo is confusing me….so are we the terrorists now…and the islamic fundamentalists are "man made disasters"….or are the "man made disasters" the unwanted babies…or are they just "punishment".
This administration make Clinton's playing with words look infantile.
"Conservative patriotism" became a threat to National Security when the right-wing extremists starting using inflammatory rhetoric such as fascism to talk about our President. Instead of placing the blame where it belongs, i.e., on the corporatism that taken over our country, they prefer to scream like a bunch of babies who lost their pacifiers. These people are not patriotic – they evidently don't care at all about our country that has been hijacked by a bunch of selfish, greedy individuals who didn't give a flying fig about their leaders, their country or anyone else besides themselves. We are blessed to live in a country where we can make changes to correct our direction when we are clearly running off a cliff. Give President Obama a chance. The rest of the world can see that we elected a great leader, whether we have the sense to recognize it or not.
I find it interesting how many people know the inner desires of my soul. Now i'm a greedy corporatist too.
You paint with a very broad brush
I have an idea….
After 22 years as an active duty Navy SEAL what if I just renounced my American citizenship…?
Would I become an 'illegal alien' and therefore be one of the new Napalitano protected class of (cough!) americans?
I guess the up side would be that I wouldn't be considered a 'right wing extremist' and wouldn't have to pay taxes anymore, and I would be able to get free healthcare, and welfare.
The downside would be that I am automatically enrolled in the democrat (read: socialist) party.
Woa! I almost lost my mind for a minute!
Are you joking???? What about right-wing extremists killing our young people by lying to them about "patriotism" and having them fight their wars??? Or letting unwanted children die of hunger in our own inner cities because the programs designed to help them were cut by a government more interested in war than in helping our own people? Kind of a misguided sense of patriotism, I think.
I don't blame you! I refuse to read the NYT. I only read it 'cause someone made me. Please don't jump! Just laugh at them. That's what I do. Not only does it make me feel better, but it really makes them mad…
You twits wouldn't know a socialist if he came on your face. Just shut up about stuff you don't understand, you retards.
Thomas Jefferson, quote,
What country before ever existed a century and a half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.
Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.
We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debt, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our calling and our creeds…[we will] have no time to think, no means of calling our miss-managers to account but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers… And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for[ another]… till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery… And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression.
We hold these truths to be sacred & undeniable; that all men are created equal & independent, that from that equal creation they derive rights inherent & inalienable, among which are the preservation of life, & liberty, & the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these ends, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government shall become destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, & to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles & organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety & happiness.
Put on your own chains, antifascist. I refuse those you and yours have for me.
Is there a prize for getting to -100 first? I'm mean, is that what you are going for here? I'm not inclined to paraphrase David Letterman on anything, but you can't be dumb enough to believe the stuff you write. You certainly aren't doing it to convince anyone of something. So what's the point? Just to irritate others? If that's it you need to seek professional help. Seriously. Taking enjoyment from making others unhappy is not a way to fulfillment. Seek another path.
Kudos to you, sir. I totally agree — when did it become "patriotic" to act out in such a childish (and unrealistic) fashion because you disagree with a new direction that may actually be FOR the people instead of acting directly against the well-being of our citizens. The financial terrorists who nearly brought this country down still have not received the punishment they deserve. They are the real problem — that and the right-wing extremists who have been brain-washed by our conservative, propaganda-based media.
Is uniformity attainable? Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites.
Thomas Jefferson
This is a very astute observation. Even before the latest report came out I had been wondering how she managed to get to be head of Homeland Security. I mean, how exactly is she qualified. The first head of DHS was a governor too, but he seemed much more qualified for the job. I also felt Chertoff had a handle on the job.
Napolitano, not so much. That's why she's like Reno who was apparently a nice person, but way over her head when it came to the job of Attorney General. Aside from the possibility that she will find her Elian Gonzalez, etc., I worry that Napolitano will be taking her eyes off the real threats to our national security in favor of political posturing (or worse).
Troll alert!
How about you and me have a nice little chat face to face you ignorant punk?
Name the time and place and bring all your friends 'cause there aint enough of you.
"It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself."
ever get the feeling like alot of people in the administration (of both parties and in both houses of congress for that matter) are playing house? A lot of them seem to be in over their heads. They don't inspire much confidence.
It's not because we want to do terrorism, "antifascist." It's because they want to silence us and paint us as enemies of the state merely for disagreeing. Remember when dissent was patriotic?
And this is the thinking that will get people killed.
You honestly don't care that North Korea is quickly advancing to nuclear strike capabilities with the obviously-unstable Kim Jung-Il calling the shots? You really are ambivalent that Iran, headed by the violently anti-American Ahmadinejad, have repeatedly expressed intentions to develop a nuclear power plant?
You don't address a problem by not giving "a flying fig".
Still no pie?
"Just shut up about stuff you don't understand…"
The bolded part sums up the leftists' position nicely. When a Republican is in the White House, dissent is the highest form of patriotism. When a Democrat is in the White House, dissenters should shut up because they got voted out of power.
It goes to show what these people think of free political discourse if "shut up" is all they can bring to the table. Dissent is always patriotic — no matter what party the President is.
As a proud member of the vast right wing conspiracy a quick message to the statist, Bite me! Washington politicians are out of control time to drain the swamp.
Another radical sentence from Thomas Jefferson: But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Spoken like a true leftist – paint an entire group of people as equivalent to a few flaming whackos.
It's easy though, right? It doesn't take any thought or understanding or investigation – that causes headaches, dizziness and an unfuzzy feeling in the head that some leftists can't live without.
We'll said Hawk!
Thanks for your service!
First Obama tries to charge GI's for their medical treatment ("I'm sorry Private, your insurance carrier doesn't cover battlefield injuries. Your commander-in-chief says you gotta die now.") When that fell through he decided to label veterans as terrorists. Now we know why he dropped the term "War on Terrorism" – it's because he was planning to use it for his war on veterans.
What's next? Public executions for reciting the pledge of allegiance? Declaring law enforcement a hate crime? Mandatory bowing before the King of Saudi Arabia?
Let me clarify. I don't understand the worldwide excitement for any president, including our own. Dangerous leaders are of course cause for concern.
My point is we have people selling Obama gear and food products in an attempt to capitalize on him. It seems to be working. i just don't get celebrity or politician worship.
"..If there's one thing that we know of Obama from his history and his statements, there has never been a president so dedicated to individual liberty as he…"
Explain please. Or are you just talking about the freedom to kill one's unborn child?
Much like Clinton used the IRS against HIS political opponents.
Thank you Stan, it has been my honor and privilege.
About the same time it became chic' to call Bush a fascist and to have "abusive and violent" rallys denouncing the government, the armed forces and conservative talk radio hosts. In other words during the Bush Presidency.
Mary, when you say "The rest of the world can see that we elected a great leader" are you talking about the world that elected Putin, Medvedev, Ahmadinejad, Cretian, Chriac, Brown, Merkel, Chavez, F. Castro, R. Castro, Yeltsin, Mitterand, Kohl, Rafsanjani, S. Hussein, H. Assad, B. Assad, not to mention the folks who elected Herr Hitler and Il Duce? These are the folks whom you think have such great political judgement that we should value their opinion? So far the evidence seems to be that the world like Hopeychange, but nobody in the govts. of Russia, China, N.Korea, Iran, Somalia, the G-20 has any respect for him. And which would YOU rather have?
charles, it is an honor and a privilege to be included with you and your brothers and sisters at arms as an EotS.
Hey what's goin' on here at BH today? We've got a discussion about "t-bagging" w/ the Gutfield article, now you're talking about "back-dooring" Lead. Is BH being infiltrated?
You mean the same young people who are on the front lines and vote for George Bush and support conservative values 3 to 1. Get a clue or talk to a person serving in Iraq like I do every day.
"our country that has been hijacked by a bunch of selfish, greedy individuals who didn't give a flying fig about their leaders, their country or anyone else besides themselves."
Just to be clear – you're talking about Congress, right? Reid, Pelosi, Barney Frank, Chuckie Shumer et al?
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
Always nice to hear from someone who shares my love for the documents surrounding the Revolution. I don't know whether to be surprised, revolted or genuinely angry with people who think that admiring that work means that we're about to blow up their pretty socialist paradise. We are willing to exercise self-defense and are armed against potential tyranny (which I have emphasized multiple times has not yet occurred). The left and the jihadists are willing to kill to advance their agenda. That is not a subtle difference.
They also have no sense of history. The Founders took a very long time, plenty of diplomacy, multiple petitions and protests and willingness to submit to the king before they finally knew that only Revolution would end the oppression. The kooks posting here and at the Daily Kos, HuffPo and other sites act as if we've gone from losing an election, to protests, to armed rebellion in the name of Timothy McVeigh in less than four months. They must be a lot more afraid than we had any idea. I don't have wild eyes, I haven't been in a violent demonstration since my radical days at Berkeley in the 60s, and I've never tossed a Molotov cocktail or fired a shot in anger. But I didn't learn my rebellious ways from the right wing conspiracy. I learned them from my lefty pals, Saul Alinsky, and anti-American professors. The ones who cited many of the same quotations they seem to think are used exclusively by the Timothy McVeighs of this world.
"Or letting unwanted children die of hunger in our own inner cities" ????????????? Where the hell did you study? At the Brothers Grimm University of Fairy Tales and Other Made Up Kids Stories?
Bill Ayers is not and never has been on the FBI 10 most wanted list. Eric Rudolph has, and has been apprehended, and is currently serving 5 consecutive life sentences. Bill Ayers, in his own words, is "guilty as hell, free as a bird." Bernadine Dorhn, his accomplice, made a brief stint on the list, but was removed when charges were dropped. There's a marked difference in ideology and result, but not in methodology of those I've listed. Where's the equity?
Did you read all the stuff at the top about tyranny? Obama is a TYRANT. We, the People, have been giving him the benefit of the doubt for the last couple of months, but the leopard doesn't appear to be changing his spots.
And who let them take advantage of the people? I ask, and I answer: A largely liberal congress who pushed the banks to make risky loans. It's not the banker's fault. They were just following orders.
I'm not going to touch the conservative, propaganda-based media line. If your head hasn't exploded by now because of the doublethink required to type that, then there's no HOPE for you.
thanks, Bev!! I appreciate that. NO worries…I'm not jumping….YET!!
Yes, laughing's the best thing. And you and I are having it the toughest, living in LA and NYC! Liberal bastions….ugh! Nice to meet you! Hang in there!
Were you assigned here by Huff Po, Young Democrats, or ACORN? You've got till Nov. 2010, then clean out your desk.
Jeff, you're wrong. Janet IS big BROTHER cuz she don't look like no sister that I've ever seen.
Jeff, you're wrong. Janet IS big BROTHER cuz she don't look like no sister that I've ever seen.
FBO, and the morons he rode in on. There, his "chance" is over. The rest of the world! Turkey? Iran? North Korea? The French president called him "weak" today. Ya, that's some foreign love. Go bow to a statue of Stalin.
Dear President Obama,
Please get control of your useful idiots. They are embarrassing you. I want you to be successful and a great leader. Please tell everyone that these last 90 days where your " Learning Curve" and that you now know whats going on in your administration.
Bless You,
Joe Citizen
Dear Anti
Here is the difference between us, I will admit the people like Eric Rudolph and Timothy McVeigh are dangerous and should be punished. How about extreme leftist who do violnce like Presidential Pal Bill Ayers. Why is it, oh wise one, that not two years ago HIllary Clinton was shouting about how desent is very patriotic your ilk cheered and now if I quote Thomas Jefferson from the Declartion of Independence I am no patriot? Why does Christian fundamentalism scare you when no christian fundamnetalist has even committed an act of terror and yet your favorite liberal administration won't even call an act of terror by am Islamic Fundamentalist a "terrorist act" but perfers the term "man made disaster. Will you at least show some intellectual honesty and say that is beyond stupid? I have lived in several countries that were not democracies and I know the difference. And you, Anti, what have you, to quote another Democrat, done for your country. I am going to guess the answer is nothing? Am I right?
You sir, are a moron!
Sorry, Libtard. As soon as you start redistributing income, confiscating wealth from those who earned it to give to whomever you think is more 'deserving,' you've crossed the Red Rubicon. If the hammer and sickle fit, wear 'em, Comrade.
And if the latest amnesty bill goes through, they'll be de jure voters. De jure is legalese for "now you can vote at least once in every election."
Calling our president a fascist is criminal now? Where are the trials for all those who called Bush the exact same thing? The shoe's not so comfortable now that it's on the other foot, is it?
They've already got our names…
Dear Mary
If you are so confident in Mr Obama are you will to say in six months his poll number are still above 50 %
I asked Anti this question last week and he cribbed an answer from wiki, so can ytou define Fascism without looking it up? I know when Bush was President lefties like you tossed that term around quite, I hope you'll forgive the pun, liberally
Obama is no fascist but he is a marxist and a socialist and in his first 85 days he has proved it.
Enjoy your victory while you can and in two years the house and Senate will be Republican again and lets see if you have the same attitude about letting people have time to get their agenda going.
The last inner city kid dying of hunger that I saw had a pistol pointed at a convenience store clerk. Looked like he was taking care of himself pretty well.
Charles: I too am a veteran of the Viet Nam War era, but we probably weren't entirely on the same side at the time, and I wasn't in uniform. I was pro-America, anti-Viet Nam War. I come from a military family with a long history of defending America, but I simply thought we didn't have it right in Southeast Asia at that time. Over time, I recognized how vital the military was in protecting my right to disagree. And it won't be the military who ultimately tries to grab that right to dissent away from us. The current report as released from the Holder office with support from the White House singles out our military as potential dangers, but they have no intention of stopping there. We who are appalled by the road to socialism and thought-policing and are turning out in the streets to protest are in the barrel too. They just choose vets because they figure you're better armed. Maybe they're right, but they shouldn't bet on it. We're all going to be on the list soon.
ZinLA
Thank you for your kind words
I am not a betting man but if I was I might wager thet Bob Beckle is no strange to Vodka Parties.
There you go Stan quoting that extremist Declaration of Independance and that no count gun owner Thomas Jefferson
"Yes, I own guns, I support pro-life groups, I think people who break the law to come here should be shown the door, no matter where they came from. I really don’t give a rat’s backside what anyone in Europe or Asia thinks about my country. I believe in the Constitution and if you don’t then change it by vote of the people and not by back-dooring me with economic stimulus programs and activist judges"
After 8 + years of bashing W, I thought that I was alone on these items. Ok! So I do not have a gun. Yet!
===It became a threat when conservatives started bombing abortion clinics and federal buildings after they were voted out of power…..liberal fascist===
These liberal troglodytes are indeed stuck on stupid. They babble about abortion bombings despite the fact there hasn’t been one in decades probably. Of course these leftist clowns have no indignation for Barack Hussein’s friend, Bill Ayers, who bombed a police station and other govt facilities leading to the murder of one individual. Maybe this liberal puke has some condemnation for the green-terrorists here in the US. No, to the liberal bottom feeders the only enemy is The Right.
These liberal pukes don’t deserve to live in this country or call themselves Americans. They’re socialist parasites and useless sacks of shyt.
What could be freer than that?
As Kane or Kotos once said: "Abortions for all!" *half the crowd riots* "Abortions for none!" *the other half riots* "Abortions for some, Miniature American flags for all!" *the crowd cheers.
Mr. Jena, THAT is hilarious…and you probably could make a WHOPPING bet on that!! Thanks for the laugh!
"I taught my comedy writing classes…"
That's the first funny thing you've written in your life.
Could you imagine parking yourself at the Daily Kos for a month like our Confederate Flag burning (my- how Brave! how gratuitous!) contributor just to throw broad stroke lefty non-sequitirs around like beanbags in a pre-school class? There is nothing dangerous about any of the beliefs intelligently discussed here unless you have a radically different idea of what the US should be. You take two disaffected loners like McVeigh and the guy who hid out in NC (forgot his name- Eric something or other) and paint 140 million odd people with that brush.
What have you? A bomb throwing Agent Provocatuer. Not to be taken seriously.
It is a bit upsetting to me that the left will just roll over for these statists and allow this takeover of our liberties without even a whimper. The indoctrination is complete, and the statists rule government, the media, the universties, and Hollywood. completely Is this truly what the left has wanted all these years? Is this the long awaited payback for McCarthyism? Are we now in the time of the Oligarchs, where personal liberties are deemed to be disruptive?
Janet Napolitano was ineffective as Arizona's governor and now she's proving to be clueless at DHS. Don't believe for a minute that she was the only person behind her 9-page bullcrap report on right-wing extremists. She's not that brave.
http://the100mostannoyingthings.blogspot.com/
Since 9/11, I've made the point of flying the flag in front of my house and wearing a flag pin in my lapel because, since the intent of the highjackers was to kill Americans, I wanted to stand up and be counted.
When the DHS list came out yesterday declaring people like me "right wing extremists" for being pro-life, pro-second amendment and pro-small government, I added a teabag to my lapel and went to the nearest teaparty with about 700 other "extremists".
Glad I did; I'll keep wearing the teabag.
"Janet Napolitano has declared that a lot of Americans who are only exercising their constitutional rights are a danger to the country."
Janet is right. They're called Obama Democrats.
Hey all..guess what I did today. I went to a Tea party held here in Arkansas and exercised my 1st Amendment rights.
Little did they know that I was also exercising my 2nd Amendment rights as well. Conceal carrying my Springfield XD 45……..
LOL…my wife said to make sure I took my cell phone to call her from the jail…….
I am about as straight arrow as they come (MORMON) and now I am a terrorist…..wow..my cool factor just went way up.!!!!!
One man's terrorist is another man's patriot !!!!!
Oh, you mean religious like a fundamental islamist. Just checkin'. As far as bombing things, relate to this board how that differs from SDS activity for, oh…..I don't know, …… more than a decade? Make your point is less that three paragraphs and you may not include any standard talking points. Use reason and research only. When this government uses legislative and judicial activism to oppress targeted groups of American citizens, that's AMERICAN citizens not foreign citizens, that they are sworn to protect, as I was a long ime ago, it is no longer a government that represents me. The Constitution provides for it's overthrow. Go Texas!!
Yes, the people who cite Thomas Jefferson and other Founding Fathers are not democratic or patriotic but when Ward Churchill calls the 9/11 victims "little Eichmanns" and that other professor says he hopes America faces "a million Mogadishus," that is. Maybe you should peruse a dictionary before you pontificate on the meaning of patriotism (those words will also be in there). Oh, and we're all still waiting for word on the pie.
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